Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Jean-Pierre == Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The first thing to do when you start a LaTeX document is to
 choose the right class.

Jean-Pierre IMHO, the right template would be more efficient, a class
Jean-Pierre by itself does not contain a user point of view.

Well, we allow for both. Not everybody want to have a --sometimes--
dumbing down (?) template inserted for each new document.

JMarc

Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Charles == Charles de Miramon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  But that would mean one more menu for just two entries...

Charles They are some research on the web on how fast humans (and
Charles maybe chimps) find the right node on a tree depending on the
Charles number of levels of the tree, I should try to find it back
Charles for you. The result was more or less that the flater the tree
Charles was the faster humans can find an item. 

I'd be interested to find such reference applied to menu structures.

Note that nothing prevents you from creating a kde.ui menu structure
(you can even piggyback on the existing structure, I believe).

  I have to say I do not like it much ;)

Charles The first thing to do when you start a LaTeX document is to
Charles choose the right class. I think the current situation that
Charles default to article without saying anything to the user and
Charles hides the class information two level deep in the menu is not
Charles very educative for a LaTeX beginner.

It does not default to article, but to the new document default that
can be set in LayoutDocument (although I agree this feature is not
obvious).

JMarc

Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

To: Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life
From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:13:21 +0100

 Jean-Pierre == Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The first thing to do when you start a LaTeX document is to
 choose the right class.

Jean-Pierre IMHO, the right template would be more efficient, a class
Jean-Pierre by itself does not contain a user point of view.

Well, we allow for both. Not everybody want to have a --sometimes--
dumbing down (?) template inserted for each new document.


I was rather thinking about dumbing up templates/examples like beamer
(I hope I understood correctly what you mean by dumbing down :-),
for people looking for some kind of model/autopilot service in a local network 
context.

-- 
Jean-Pierre

acents in other fonts

[Leo Gürtler]

Dear everybody,
How to I get accents like
ERT:\={a}  or \.{n}
while using another font ?
e.g.
\newfont{\platzhalter}{pnb10}
{\platzhalter
\={a}
}
brngs not the results that was expected.
If instead
{\platzhalter
$\textrm{$\bar{a}$}$
}
is used, the accents is there, but not the font I intended to use ( I do 
not want to switch to mathmode).

Thanks,
Leo
--
www: http://www.anicca-vijja.de/

LyX - XML, Koma-Script - XSD XSL?

[Wolfgang Keller]

Hello,

if this happens to be an FAQ item, thanks for pointing me to the relevant
FAQ.

Is there an easy way to convert the content of a LyX document to XML (and
vice-versa)? And are there XSD and XSL(-FO) equivalent to e.g. the
Koma-Script package?

TIA,

Wolfgang Keller

Re: No Search Replace in 1.3.5?

[Helge Hafting]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
[...]
Actually, in 1.3.x and before, if was the mere existence of the find
function which was a difficult task :) The reason was that we had no
easy way to scan through a document, as strange as it may seem.
Now that the find function is in a better shape, adding searching for
fonts would be trivial at the data level. Of course the UI requires
more work. Searching for a regexp (on the contents of the file, not
the file format) would not be too difficult either.
Searching for text in a footnote or whatever is more work, but this is
mainly because the semantics of such search would be weird.
 

I don't think I ever needed to search footnotes specifically, but the
footnotes get searched too - that works for me.
The improved search I'd like to see:
The window where I specify search (and replace) expressions
should be like the main window, in that (almost) anything that goes
in the main window works as a search/replace expression too.
So, I could do a global replace of the type:
search: f(x)=\int
replace f(y)=\sum
for example.  Or replace some word with an emphasized magenta version
of the same word. (Or the word in some character style, when we get those.)
When we get charstyles, I probably want to replace lots of
emphasized words with styled words. . .
This might have to be a separate search dialog though, because I still
want to be able to replace speling with spelling and have it work no
matter what character style, boldness, font and so on is in use for the
mis-spelled word.
Helge Hafting

Charles Another example of the advantages of basing you application
Charles on a rich framework. I've followed a conference of Lars
Charles Knoll, the Trolltech (and KDE) developer responsible for
Charles QTextdocument. In the next version of Qt, QTextDocument will
Charles be fully unicode. He gaves us example how fiendishly
Charles complicated it is to create a interface to enter Unicode
Charles text, deleting, selecting with a mouse for language like
Charles Chinese, India, etc. It is a 2 man/year job. In KWord we get
Charles all that for free.
I do not know much about that, I have to admit.
Charles If LyX was a KDE application, it could used the KScript class
Charles that add a generic scripting engine for an application, reuse
Charles the plugin interface developed for other applications, etc.
What does it do beyond what other script embedding libraries do?
Charles KDE or QT should not be viewed from an user point of view (I
Charles like or dislike KDE/Gnome/Gtk ; it is too heavy, bloated,
Charles etc.) but as a successfull development model. By building a
Charles common, rich framework that goes much further than a set of
Charles widgets you mutualize the coding work 

We are all for using external libraries (boost, aspell, aiksaurus...).
But they do not _have_ to be from KDE, especially if this forces us to
go the whole way.
Charles and make it possible for application developers to
Charles concentrate on their core business (burning cd, listening to
Charles music, interfacing with LateX).
Well, our core business in LyX is not interfacing with LaTeX.
Otherwise we would just build a magic LaTeX-interface-plugin for KWord
:)
JMarc
 

Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life

[Helge Hafting]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Jean-Pierre == Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   

 

The first thing to do when you start a LaTeX document is to
choose the right class.
   

Jean-Pierre IMHO, the right template would be more efficient, a class
Jean-Pierre by itself does not contain a user point of view.
Well, we allow for both. Not everybody want to have a --sometimes--
dumbing down (?) template inserted for each new document.
 

Not that both are needed - I believe you can get the same functionality
by having blank templates.
Helge Hafting

Re: No Search Replace in 1.3.5?

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

I don't think I ever needed to search footnotes specifically, but the
footnotes get searched too - that works for me.

The improved search I'd like to see:
The window where I specify search (and replace) expressions
should be like the main window, in that (almost) anything that goes
in the main window works as a search/replace expression too.

So, I could do a global replace of the type:
search: f(x)=\int
replace f(y)=\sum
for example.  Or replace some word with an emphasized magenta version
of the same word. (Or the word in some character style, when we get those.)
When we get charstyles, I probably want to replace lots of
emphasized words with styled words. . .

I hope that character style implementation  will be macro-based, so that 
changing the macro
will change all occurences.

Of course, such an approach needs a different macro for each style edition
occurring more than once, theroratically.

In that line, I don't see much difference between character style 
implementation and the
current implemention of math macro, nor with a general macro editor allowing to 
build any local
construct and make it available.


-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: acents in other fonts

[Herbert Voss]

Leo Gürtler wrote:
\newfont{\platzhalter}{pnb10}
{\platzhalter
\={a}
}
brngs not the results that was expected.
then something other went wrong. Give a complete
example file.
Herbert
--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Windows - no preview

[Paul A. Rubin]

Angus Leeming wrote:
Doesn't 1.3.5 use the python script lyxpreview2ppm.py? 
Yes, it does.
It was, after all,
written especially so that the Windows world might have a hope in hell in
getting it to work.
Hope springs eternal in the Windows world.  It's just seldom fulfilled.
I'd expect your lyxrc.defaults to contain:
\converter lyxpreview ppm lyxpreview2ppm.py 
It does.
-- Paul

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Win32 - install error

[Paul A. Rubin]

Kent Kostuk wrote:
First, I checked textclass.lst:  it's there and non-zero.
Second, I replace sed.
Third, I type configure at the c:\lyx32\share\lyx DOS prompt and get: a 
lot of text and then configure: error: cannot find chkconfig.ltx script

This makes me think I have an error in my PATH statment.  Here is my path:
PATH=C:\lyx32\share\lyx\..\..\bin;C:\lyx32\share\lyx\..\..\bin;c:\program 
files\imagemagick-6.1.7-q16;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\WINNT\system32;C:\WINNT;C:\WINNT\System32\Wbem;C:\PROGRAM 
FILES\THINKPAD\UTILITIES;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Autodesk 
Shared\;C:\PROGRA~1\ULTRAE~1;C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL 
Server\80\Tools\BINN;C:\Program Files\IBM\Director\bin
Your path is ok.  The first two entries are a bit clunky (not to mention 
the second being redundant); I would shorten them to

PATH=C:\lyx32\bin;C:\program files\image...
However, I'm pretty sure what you have there should work, and in any 
case wouldn't cause the cannot find chkconfig.ltx message.

-- Paul

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Win32 - install error

[Kent Kostuk]

I did a re-install off the latest version and it worked.  I just 
followed my original procedures, so the updated software must have been 
solution.

Thanks to everyone for the help and time spent on my install problem.
Kent

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Win32 released

[Paul A. Rubin]

Ruurd Reitsma wrote:

At this very moment, not yet. Actually, the new sed makes things worse for
me. What exactly is the new version supposed to do?
Under Windows, lines in the scripts files are delimited by CR/LF 
combinations.  If I recall correctly, sed 3.02 chokes on the CR 
characters, whereas sed 4.0.9 (and presumably later) doesn't.

-- Paul

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Win32 - install error

[Paul A. Rubin]

Angus Leeming wrote:
Kent Kostuk wrote:
First, I checked textclass.lst:  it's there and non-zero.
Second, I replace sed.
Third, I type configure at the c:\lyx32\share\lyx DOS prompt and get: a
lot of text and then configure: error: cannot find chkconfig.ltx script

I would type sh configure if you are running from a DOS prompt as 
opposed to a unix shell. Otherwise, Windows is likely to try and execute 
configure as a batch file. Which it isn't... Or it may be executing 
'configure.cmd', which is ancient, unmaintained historical cruft...
Ruurd ships a DOS batch file named configure.bat (in share\lyx) that 
should work if run from a DOS prompt *in that directory*.  The path in 
the batch file to the bin directory is hardcoded as a relative path (go 
back two levels from where you started, then over to bin), so I don't 
think it will work if the current directory is anything other than 
share\lyx.  That said, I cast my vote for sh configure.

-- Paul

Re: About version control under windows.

[Matej Cepl]

Wang Xiangqi wrote:
 I am now using Lyx 1.3.5 for windows. Can I use the function of version
 control? Or how can I use it. I have checked the help documentment but
 cannot understand.

You have to download and install RCS programs for Windows. They are
available (I have no idea where, though, I am on Linux) and it is possible
to make it work, but it takes some persistence.

Matej

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Be careful, do not turn to evil; for you have preferred this to
affliction.
  -- Job 36:20f (NASB)

Re: LyX - XML, Koma-Script - XSD XSL?

[Matej Cepl]

Wolfgang Keller wrote:
 Is there an easy way to convert the content of a LyX document to XML (and
 vice-versa)? And are there XSD and XSL(-FO) equivalent to e.g. the
 Koma-Script package?

Not easy one. It is probably somehow possible (look for Docbook LaTeX
conversion on google), but it is far from trivial.

Matej

-- 
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 -- Bostonian lady, when being asked why she never visited
  other places than Boston

Portability of lyx documents for document collaboration

[Fred Nastos]

Hi, I'd like to know if there are any issues with transferring LyX
documents made on Linux to Windows, editing there with LyX,
and then transferring them back to linux.  I don't use Windows
so I haven't been to try this myself.

I have seen the discussions here on the availability of LyX
on Windows.  I collaborate with someone who uses a windows
GUI based wysiwym latex editor (scientific workplace).  When
I send them a latex file, generated by lyx, their program usually
has trouble importing it, and even if it does succesfully import, it
does not, as far as I know, export LyX files.  So I am stuck
editing raw latex with this person.

They should be able to pick up LyX with little effort, but I'm afraid
installing cygwin is too much to ask of them.  I am hoping this
new native Windows port will help.

Thanks

Copyright symbol?

[Gill, Jack]

How does one insert a copyright symbol at the end of a title in an
article(koma-script) document?

Jack

Re: Portability of lyx documents for document collaboration

[Paul Smith]

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:19:07 -0500, Fred Nastos
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi, I'd like to know if there are any issues with transferring LyX
 documents made on Linux to Windows, editing there with LyX,
 and then transferring them back to linux.  I don't use Windows
 so I haven't been to try this myself.
 
 I have seen the discussions here on the availability of LyX
 on Windows.  I collaborate with someone who uses a windows
 GUI based wysiwym latex editor (scientific workplace).  When
 I send them a latex file, generated by lyx, their program usually
 has trouble importing it, and even if it does succesfully import, it
 does not, as far as I know, export LyX files.  So I am stuck
 editing raw latex with this person.
 
 They should be able to pick up LyX with little effort, but I'm afraid
 installing cygwin is too much to ask of them.  I am hoping this
 new native Windows port will help.

Fred,

There is a LyX version for MS Windows with an easy installation
procedure. Have a look at:

http://www.home.zonnet.nl/rareitsma/lyx/

It is not needed any conversion between MS Windows and Linux versions
of LyX - the formats are the same.

Regards,

Paul

Re: Copyright symbol?

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Gill, Jack wrote:
How does one insert a copyright symbol at the end of a title in an
article(koma-script) document?
Jack,
  I've not put it on the title, but in a footnote. The footnote contains:
Copyright \copyright{} 2005  Try it on your title: ERT of \copyright{}
HTH,
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Portability of lyx documents for document collaboration

[Paul A. Rubin]

Fred Nastos wrote:
Hi, I'd like to know if there are any issues with transferring LyX
documents made on Linux to Windows, editing there with LyX,
and then transferring them back to linux.  I don't use Windows
so I haven't been to try this myself.
Based on very limited experience, I don't think you'll have any 
cross-platform problems.  LyX documents are just text files, so the only 
issue might be the fact that Linux terminates lines with LF and Windows 
terminates them with CR/LF.  I just opened a document from the Wiki in 
the Win port of 1.3.5 with no problem, and the source file came from 
either Linux or some Unix-derived system (lines terminated in LF).

However, you will need to be sure that the Linux documents were created 
in version 1.3.x of LyX.  The lyx2lyx script, which converts documents 
written in older versions to version 1.3.x, is broken in the Windows 
port.  I downloaded a couple of LyX files from the Wiki that were 
written in 1.2, and could not open them.
I have seen the discussions here on the availability of LyX
on Windows.  I collaborate with someone who uses a windows
GUI based wysiwym latex editor (scientific workplace).
Been there, done that, survived the migraines.  I had a coauthor using 
SciWord, while I used LaTeX (didn't bother to try importing the 
documents into LyX).  Very painful.

When
I send them a latex file, generated by lyx, their program usually
has trouble importing it, and even if it does succesfully import, it
does not, as far as I know, export LyX files.
Correct.  SciWord exports LaTeX, but not LyX (AFAIK).
So I am stuck
editing raw latex with this person.
And, worse yet, SciWord makes extensive use of proprietary (perhaps I 
should say unique to SciWord) styles, which you won't find in any 
standard LaTeX distribution.  I'm not sure if it's within licensing 
terms for your collaborator to suppy you with them, and without them the 
exported LaTeX files don't come close to looking the way they should.

They should be able to pick up LyX with little effort, but I'm afraid
installing cygwin is too much to ask of them.  I am hoping this
new native Windows port will help.
There may be a bump or two during installation, but after that it should 
work fine.  However, my impression is that SciWord's UI closely 
resembles that of Word, which is not true of LyX's UI, so there will be 
some learning involved.

-- Paul

RE: Copyright symbol?

[Jack T. Gill]

Worked like a charm, Rich!  Thanks!

Jack 

-Original Message-
From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:00 PM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Copyright symbol?

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Gill, Jack wrote:

 How does one insert a copyright symbol at the end of a title in an
 article(koma-script) document?

Jack,

   I've not put it on the title, but in a footnote. The footnote contains:
Copyright \copyright{} 2005  Try it on your title: ERT of \copyright{}

HTH,

Rich

--
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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

RE: Copyright symbol?

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Jack T. Gill wrote:
Worked like a charm, Rich!  Thanks!
Jack,
  You're welcome.
  There is a book on CTAN called The Comprehensive LaTeX Symbol List. It
has, probably, every symbol known to mankind and how to declare it in LaTeX
(or, ERT in LyX). A fascinating resource that is a great help.
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Jean-Pierre == Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The first thing to do when you start a LaTeX document is to
 choose the right class.

Jean-Pierre IMHO, the right template would be more efficient, a class
Jean-Pierre by itself does not contain a user point of view.

Well, we allow for both. Not everybody want to have a --sometimes--
dumbing down (?) template inserted for each new document.

JMarc

Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Charles == Charles de Miramon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  But that would mean one more menu for just two entries...

Charles They are some research on the web on how fast humans (and
Charles maybe chimps) find the right node on a tree depending on the
Charles number of levels of the tree, I should try to find it back
Charles for you. The result was more or less that the flater the tree
Charles was the faster humans can find an item. 

I'd be interested to find such reference applied to menu structures.

Note that nothing prevents you from creating a kde.ui menu structure
(you can even piggyback on the existing structure, I believe).

  I have to say I do not like it much ;)

Charles The first thing to do when you start a LaTeX document is to
Charles choose the right class. I think the current situation that
Charles default to article without saying anything to the user and
Charles hides the class information two level deep in the menu is not
Charles very educative for a LaTeX beginner.

It does not default to article, but to the new document default that
can be set in LayoutDocument (although I agree this feature is not
obvious).

JMarc

Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

To: Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life
From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:13:21 +0100

 Jean-Pierre == Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The first thing to do when you start a LaTeX document is to
 choose the right class.

Jean-Pierre IMHO, the right template would be more efficient, a class
Jean-Pierre by itself does not contain a user point of view.

Well, we allow for both. Not everybody want to have a --sometimes--
dumbing down (?) template inserted for each new document.


I was rather thinking about dumbing up templates/examples like beamer
(I hope I understood correctly what you mean by dumbing down :-),
for people looking for some kind of model/autopilot service in a local network 
context.

-- 
Jean-Pierre

acents in other fonts

[Leo Gürtler]

Dear everybody,
How to I get accents like
ERT:\={a}  or \.{n}
while using another font ?
e.g.
\newfont{\platzhalter}{pnb10}
{\platzhalter
\={a}
}
brngs not the results that was expected.
If instead
{\platzhalter
$\textrm{$\bar{a}$}$
}
is used, the accents is there, but not the font I intended to use ( I do 
not want to switch to mathmode).

Thanks,
Leo
--
www: http://www.anicca-vijja.de/

LyX - XML, Koma-Script - XSD XSL?

[Wolfgang Keller]

Hello,

if this happens to be an FAQ item, thanks for pointing me to the relevant
FAQ.

Is there an easy way to convert the content of a LyX document to XML (and
vice-versa)? And are there XSD and XSL(-FO) equivalent to e.g. the
Koma-Script package?

TIA,

Wolfgang Keller

Re: No Search Replace in 1.3.5?

[Helge Hafting]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
[...]
Actually, in 1.3.x and before, if was the mere existence of the find
function which was a difficult task :) The reason was that we had no
easy way to scan through a document, as strange as it may seem.
Now that the find function is in a better shape, adding searching for
fonts would be trivial at the data level. Of course the UI requires
more work. Searching for a regexp (on the contents of the file, not
the file format) would not be too difficult either.
Searching for text in a footnote or whatever is more work, but this is
mainly because the semantics of such search would be weird.
 

I don't think I ever needed to search footnotes specifically, but the
footnotes get searched too - that works for me.
The improved search I'd like to see:
The window where I specify search (and replace) expressions
should be like the main window, in that (almost) anything that goes
in the main window works as a search/replace expression too.
So, I could do a global replace of the type:
search: f(x)=\int
replace f(y)=\sum
for example.  Or replace some word with an emphasized magenta version
of the same word. (Or the word in some character style, when we get those.)
When we get charstyles, I probably want to replace lots of
emphasized words with styled words. . .
This might have to be a separate search dialog though, because I still
want to be able to replace speling with spelling and have it work no
matter what character style, boldness, font and so on is in use for the
mis-spelled word.
Helge Hafting

Charles Another example of the advantages of basing you application
Charles on a rich framework. I've followed a conference of Lars
Charles Knoll, the Trolltech (and KDE) developer responsible for
Charles QTextdocument. In the next version of Qt, QTextDocument will
Charles be fully unicode. He gaves us example how fiendishly
Charles complicated it is to create a interface to enter Unicode
Charles text, deleting, selecting with a mouse for language like
Charles Chinese, India, etc. It is a 2 man/year job. In KWord we get
Charles all that for free.
I do not know much about that, I have to admit.
Charles If LyX was a KDE application, it could used the KScript class
Charles that add a generic scripting engine for an application, reuse
Charles the plugin interface developed for other applications, etc.
What does it do beyond what other script embedding libraries do?
Charles KDE or QT should not be viewed from an user point of view (I
Charles like or dislike KDE/Gnome/Gtk ; it is too heavy, bloated,
Charles etc.) but as a successfull development model. By building a
Charles common, rich framework that goes much further than a set of
Charles widgets you mutualize the coding work 

We are all for using external libraries (boost, aspell, aiksaurus...).
But they do not _have_ to be from KDE, especially if this forces us to
go the whole way.
Charles and make it possible for application developers to
Charles concentrate on their core business (burning cd, listening to
Charles music, interfacing with LateX).
Well, our core business in LyX is not interfacing with LaTeX.
Otherwise we would just build a magic LaTeX-interface-plugin for KWord
:)
JMarc
 

Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life

[Helge Hafting]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Jean-Pierre == Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   

 

The first thing to do when you start a LaTeX document is to
choose the right class.
   

Jean-Pierre IMHO, the right template would be more efficient, a class
Jean-Pierre by itself does not contain a user point of view.
Well, we allow for both. Not everybody want to have a --sometimes--
dumbing down (?) template inserted for each new document.
 

Not that both are needed - I believe you can get the same functionality
by having blank templates.
Helge Hafting

Re: No Search Replace in 1.3.5?

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

I don't think I ever needed to search footnotes specifically, but the
footnotes get searched too - that works for me.

The improved search I'd like to see:
The window where I specify search (and replace) expressions
should be like the main window, in that (almost) anything that goes
in the main window works as a search/replace expression too.

So, I could do a global replace of the type:
search: f(x)=\int
replace f(y)=\sum
for example.  Or replace some word with an emphasized magenta version
of the same word. (Or the word in some character style, when we get those.)
When we get charstyles, I probably want to replace lots of
emphasized words with styled words. . .

I hope that character style implementation  will be macro-based, so that 
changing the macro
will change all occurences.

Of course, such an approach needs a different macro for each style edition
occurring more than once, theroratically.

In that line, I don't see much difference between character style 
implementation and the
current implemention of math macro, nor with a general macro editor allowing to 
build any local
construct and make it available.


-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: acents in other fonts

[Herbert Voss]

Leo Gürtler wrote:
\newfont{\platzhalter}{pnb10}
{\platzhalter
\={a}
}
brngs not the results that was expected.
then something other went wrong. Give a complete
example file.
Herbert
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ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
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http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Windows - no preview

[Paul A. Rubin]

Angus Leeming wrote:
Doesn't 1.3.5 use the python script lyxpreview2ppm.py? 
Yes, it does.
It was, after all,
written especially so that the Windows world might have a hope in hell in
getting it to work.
Hope springs eternal in the Windows world.  It's just seldom fulfilled.
I'd expect your lyxrc.defaults to contain:
\converter lyxpreview ppm lyxpreview2ppm.py 
It does.
-- Paul

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Win32 - install error

[Paul A. Rubin]

Kent Kostuk wrote:
First, I checked textclass.lst:  it's there and non-zero.
Second, I replace sed.
Third, I type configure at the c:\lyx32\share\lyx DOS prompt and get: a 
lot of text and then configure: error: cannot find chkconfig.ltx script

This makes me think I have an error in my PATH statment.  Here is my path:
PATH=C:\lyx32\share\lyx\..\..\bin;C:\lyx32\share\lyx\..\..\bin;c:\program 
files\imagemagick-6.1.7-q16;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\WINNT\system32;C:\WINNT;C:\WINNT\System32\Wbem;C:\PROGRAM 
FILES\THINKPAD\UTILITIES;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Autodesk 
Shared\;C:\PROGRA~1\ULTRAE~1;C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL 
Server\80\Tools\BINN;C:\Program Files\IBM\Director\bin
Your path is ok.  The first two entries are a bit clunky (not to mention 
the second being redundant); I would shorten them to

PATH=C:\lyx32\bin;C:\program files\image...
However, I'm pretty sure what you have there should work, and in any 
case wouldn't cause the cannot find chkconfig.ltx message.

-- Paul

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Win32 - install error

[Kent Kostuk]

I did a re-install off the latest version and it worked.  I just 
followed my original procedures, so the updated software must have been 
solution.

Thanks to everyone for the help and time spent on my install problem.
Kent

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Win32 released

[Paul A. Rubin]

Ruurd Reitsma wrote:

At this very moment, not yet. Actually, the new sed makes things worse for
me. What exactly is the new version supposed to do?
Under Windows, lines in the scripts files are delimited by CR/LF 
combinations.  If I recall correctly, sed 3.02 chokes on the CR 
characters, whereas sed 4.0.9 (and presumably later) doesn't.

-- Paul

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Win32 - install error

[Paul A. Rubin]

Angus Leeming wrote:
Kent Kostuk wrote:
First, I checked textclass.lst:  it's there and non-zero.
Second, I replace sed.
Third, I type configure at the c:\lyx32\share\lyx DOS prompt and get: a
lot of text and then configure: error: cannot find chkconfig.ltx script

I would type sh configure if you are running from a DOS prompt as 
opposed to a unix shell. Otherwise, Windows is likely to try and execute 
configure as a batch file. Which it isn't... Or it may be executing 
'configure.cmd', which is ancient, unmaintained historical cruft...
Ruurd ships a DOS batch file named configure.bat (in share\lyx) that 
should work if run from a DOS prompt *in that directory*.  The path in 
the batch file to the bin directory is hardcoded as a relative path (go 
back two levels from where you started, then over to bin), so I don't 
think it will work if the current directory is anything other than 
share\lyx.  That said, I cast my vote for sh configure.

-- Paul

Re: About version control under windows.

[Matej Cepl]

Wang Xiangqi wrote:
 I am now using Lyx 1.3.5 for windows. Can I use the function of version
 control? Or how can I use it. I have checked the help documentment but
 cannot understand.

You have to download and install RCS programs for Windows. They are
available (I have no idea where, though, I am on Linux) and it is possible
to make it work, but it takes some persistence.

Matej

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Re: LyX - XML, Koma-Script - XSD XSL?

[Matej Cepl]

Wolfgang Keller wrote:
 Is there an easy way to convert the content of a LyX document to XML (and
 vice-versa)? And are there XSD and XSL(-FO) equivalent to e.g. the
 Koma-Script package?

Not easy one. It is probably somehow possible (look for Docbook LaTeX
conversion on google), but it is far from trivial.

Matej

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  other places than Boston

Portability of lyx documents for document collaboration

[Fred Nastos]

Hi, I'd like to know if there are any issues with transferring LyX
documents made on Linux to Windows, editing there with LyX,
and then transferring them back to linux.  I don't use Windows
so I haven't been to try this myself.

I have seen the discussions here on the availability of LyX
on Windows.  I collaborate with someone who uses a windows
GUI based wysiwym latex editor (scientific workplace).  When
I send them a latex file, generated by lyx, their program usually
has trouble importing it, and even if it does succesfully import, it
does not, as far as I know, export LyX files.  So I am stuck
editing raw latex with this person.

They should be able to pick up LyX with little effort, but I'm afraid
installing cygwin is too much to ask of them.  I am hoping this
new native Windows port will help.

Thanks

Copyright symbol?

[Gill, Jack]

How does one insert a copyright symbol at the end of a title in an
article(koma-script) document?

Jack

Re: Portability of lyx documents for document collaboration

[Paul Smith]

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:19:07 -0500, Fred Nastos
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi, I'd like to know if there are any issues with transferring LyX
 documents made on Linux to Windows, editing there with LyX,
 and then transferring them back to linux.  I don't use Windows
 so I haven't been to try this myself.
 
 I have seen the discussions here on the availability of LyX
 on Windows.  I collaborate with someone who uses a windows
 GUI based wysiwym latex editor (scientific workplace).  When
 I send them a latex file, generated by lyx, their program usually
 has trouble importing it, and even if it does succesfully import, it
 does not, as far as I know, export LyX files.  So I am stuck
 editing raw latex with this person.
 
 They should be able to pick up LyX with little effort, but I'm afraid
 installing cygwin is too much to ask of them.  I am hoping this
 new native Windows port will help.

Fred,

There is a LyX version for MS Windows with an easy installation
procedure. Have a look at:

http://www.home.zonnet.nl/rareitsma/lyx/

It is not needed any conversion between MS Windows and Linux versions
of LyX - the formats are the same.

Regards,

Paul

Re: Copyright symbol?

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Gill, Jack wrote:
How does one insert a copyright symbol at the end of a title in an
article(koma-script) document?
Jack,
  I've not put it on the title, but in a footnote. The footnote contains:
Copyright \copyright{} 2005  Try it on your title: ERT of \copyright{}
HTH,
Rich
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Re: Portability of lyx documents for document collaboration

[Paul A. Rubin]

Fred Nastos wrote:
Hi, I'd like to know if there are any issues with transferring LyX
documents made on Linux to Windows, editing there with LyX,
and then transferring them back to linux.  I don't use Windows
so I haven't been to try this myself.
Based on very limited experience, I don't think you'll have any 
cross-platform problems.  LyX documents are just text files, so the only 
issue might be the fact that Linux terminates lines with LF and Windows 
terminates them with CR/LF.  I just opened a document from the Wiki in 
the Win port of 1.3.5 with no problem, and the source file came from 
either Linux or some Unix-derived system (lines terminated in LF).

However, you will need to be sure that the Linux documents were created 
in version 1.3.x of LyX.  The lyx2lyx script, which converts documents 
written in older versions to version 1.3.x, is broken in the Windows 
port.  I downloaded a couple of LyX files from the Wiki that were 
written in 1.2, and could not open them.
I have seen the discussions here on the availability of LyX
on Windows.  I collaborate with someone who uses a windows
GUI based wysiwym latex editor (scientific workplace).
Been there, done that, survived the migraines.  I had a coauthor using 
SciWord, while I used LaTeX (didn't bother to try importing the 
documents into LyX).  Very painful.

When
I send them a latex file, generated by lyx, their program usually
has trouble importing it, and even if it does succesfully import, it
does not, as far as I know, export LyX files.
Correct.  SciWord exports LaTeX, but not LyX (AFAIK).
So I am stuck
editing raw latex with this person.
And, worse yet, SciWord makes extensive use of proprietary (perhaps I 
should say unique to SciWord) styles, which you won't find in any 
standard LaTeX distribution.  I'm not sure if it's within licensing 
terms for your collaborator to suppy you with them, and without them the 
exported LaTeX files don't come close to looking the way they should.

They should be able to pick up LyX with little effort, but I'm afraid
installing cygwin is too much to ask of them.  I am hoping this
new native Windows port will help.
There may be a bump or two during installation, but after that it should 
work fine.  However, my impression is that SciWord's UI closely 
resembles that of Word, which is not true of LyX's UI, so there will be 
some learning involved.

-- Paul

RE: Copyright symbol?

[Jack T. Gill]

Worked like a charm, Rich!  Thanks!

Jack 

-Original Message-
From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:00 PM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Copyright symbol?

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Gill, Jack wrote:

 How does one insert a copyright symbol at the end of a title in an
 article(koma-script) document?

Jack,

   I've not put it on the title, but in a footnote. The footnote contains:
Copyright \copyright{} 2005  Try it on your title: ERT of \copyright{}

HTH,

Rich

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RE: Copyright symbol?

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Jack T. Gill wrote:
Worked like a charm, Rich!  Thanks!
Jack,
  You're welcome.
  There is a book on CTAN called The Comprehensive LaTeX Symbol List. It
has, probably, every symbol known to mankind and how to declare it in LaTeX
(or, ERT in LyX). A fascinating resource that is a great help.
Rich
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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
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Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Jean-Pierre" == Jean-Pierre Chretien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>>  The first thing to do when you start a LaTeX document is to
>>> choose the right class.

Jean-Pierre> IMHO, the right template would be more efficient, a class
Jean-Pierre> by itself does not contain a user point of view.

Well, we allow for both. Not everybody want to have a --sometimes--
dumbing down (?) template inserted for each new document.

JMarc

Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Charles" == Charles de Miramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>  But that would mean one more menu for just two entries...

Charles> They are some research on the web on how fast humans (and
Charles> maybe chimps) find the right node on a tree depending on the
Charles> number of levels of the tree, I should try to find it back
Charles> for you. The result was more or less that the flater the tree
Charles> was the faster humans can find an item. 

I'd be interested to find such reference applied to menu structures.

Note that nothing prevents you from creating a kde.ui menu structure
(you can even piggyback on the existing structure, I believe).

>>  I have to say I do not like it much ;)

Charles> The first thing to do when you start a LaTeX document is to
Charles> choose the right class. I think the current situation that
Charles> default to article without saying anything to the user and
Charles> hides the class information two level deep in the menu is not
Charles> very educative for a LaTeX beginner.

It does not default to article, but to the new document default that
can be set in Layout>Document (although I agree this feature is not
obvious).

JMarc

Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

>>To: Jean-Pierre Chretien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life
>>From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:13:21 +0100
>>
>>> "Jean-Pierre" == Jean-Pierre Chretien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>  The first thing to do when you start a LaTeX document is to
> choose the right class.
>>
>>Jean-Pierre> IMHO, the right template would be more efficient, a class
>>Jean-Pierre> by itself does not contain a user point of view.
>>
>>Well, we allow for both. Not everybody want to have a --sometimes--
>>dumbing down (?) template inserted for each new document.


I was rather thinking about dumbing up templates/examples like beamer
(I hope I understood correctly what you mean by dumbing down :-),
for people looking for some kind of model/autopilot service in a local network 
context.

-- 
Jean-Pierre

acents in other fonts

[Leo Gürtler]

Dear everybody,
How to I get accents like
ERT:\={a}  or \.{n}
while using another font ?
e.g.
\newfont{\platzhalter}{pnb10}
{\platzhalter
\={a}
}
brngs not the results that was expected.
If instead
{\platzhalter
$\textrm{$\bar{a}$}$
}
is used, the accents is there, but not the font I intended to use ( I do 
not want to switch to mathmode).

Thanks,
Leo
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LyX <-> XML, Koma-Script <-> XSD & XSL?

[Wolfgang Keller]

Hello,

if this happens to be an FAQ item, thanks for pointing me to the relevant
FAQ.

Is there an easy way to convert the content of a LyX document to XML (and
vice-versa)? And are there XSD and XSL(-FO) equivalent to e.g. the
Koma-Script package?

TIA,

Wolfgang Keller

Re: No Search & Replace in 1.3.5?

[Helge Hafting]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
[...]
Actually, in 1.3.x and before, if was the mere existence of the find
function which was a difficult task :) The reason was that we had no
easy way to scan through a document, as strange as it may seem.
Now that the find function is in a better shape, adding searching for
fonts would be trivial at the data level. Of course the UI requires
more work. Searching for a regexp (on the contents of the file, not
the file format) would not be too difficult either.
Searching for text in a footnote or whatever is more work, but this is
mainly because the semantics of such search would be weird.
 

I don't think I ever needed to search footnotes specifically, but the
footnotes get searched too - that works for me.
The improved search I'd like to see:
The window where I specify search (and replace) expressions
should be like the main window, in that (almost) anything that goes
in the main window works as a search/replace expression too.
So, I could do a global replace of the type:
search: f(x)=\int
replace f(y)=\sum
for example.  Or replace some word with an emphasized magenta version
of the same word. (Or the word in some character style, when we get those.)
When we get charstyles, I probably want to replace lots of
emphasized words with styled words. . .
This might have to be a separate search dialog though, because I still
want to be able to replace "speling" with "spelling" and have it work no
matter what character style, boldness, font and so on is in use for the
mis-spelled word.
Helge Hafting

Charles> Another example of the advantages of basing you application
Charles> on a rich framework. I've followed a conference of Lars
Charles> Knoll, the Trolltech (and KDE) developer responsible for
Charles> QTextdocument. In the next version of Qt, QTextDocument will
Charles> be fully unicode. He gaves us example how fiendishly
Charles> complicated it is to create a interface to enter Unicode
Charles> text, deleting, selecting with a mouse for language like
Charles> Chinese, India, etc. It is a 2 man/year job. In KWord we get
Charles> all that for free.
I do not know much about that, I have to admit.
Charles> If LyX was a KDE application, it could used the KScript class
Charles> that add a generic scripting engine for an application, reuse
Charles> the plugin interface developed for other applications, etc.
What does it do beyond what other script embedding libraries do?
Charles> KDE or QT should not be viewed from an user point of view (I
Charles> like or dislike KDE/Gnome/Gtk ; it is too heavy, bloated,
Charles> etc.) but as a successfull development model. By building a
Charles> common, rich framework that goes much further than a set of
Charles> widgets you mutualize the coding work 

We are all for using external libraries (boost, aspell, aiksaurus...).
But they do not _have_ to be from KDE, especially if this forces us to
go the whole way.
Charles> and make it possible for application developers to
Charles> concentrate on their core business (burning cd, listening to
Charles> music, interfacing with LateX).
Well, our core business in LyX is not interfacing with LaTeX.
Otherwise we would just build a magic LaTeX-interface-plugin for KWord
:)
JMarc
 

Re: Comments on structured authoring, LyX, OpenOffice, and life

[Helge Hafting]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
"Jean-Pierre" == Jean-Pierre Chretien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
   

 

The first thing to do when you start a LaTeX document is to
choose the right class.
   

Jean-Pierre> IMHO, the right template would be more efficient, a class
Jean-Pierre> by itself does not contain a user point of view.
Well, we allow for both. Not everybody want to have a --sometimes--
dumbing down (?) template inserted for each new document.
 

Not that both are needed - I believe you can get the same functionality
by having blank templates.
Helge Hafting

Re: No Search & Replace in 1.3.5?

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

>>I don't think I ever needed to search footnotes specifically, but the
>>footnotes get searched too - that works for me.
>>
>>The improved search I'd like to see:
>>The window where I specify search (and replace) expressions
>>should be like the main window, in that (almost) anything that goes
>>in the main window works as a search/replace expression too.
>>
>>So, I could do a global replace of the type:
>>search: f(x)=\int
>>replace f(y)=\sum
>>for example.  Or replace some word with an emphasized magenta version
>>of the same word. (Or the word in some character style, when we get those.)
>>When we get charstyles, I probably want to replace lots of
>>emphasized words with styled words. . .

I hope that character style implementation  will be macro-based, so that 
changing the macro
will change all occurences.

Of course, such an approach needs a different macro for each style edition
occurring more than once, theroratically.

In that line, I don't see much difference between character style 
implementation and the
current implemention of math macro, nor with a general macro editor allowing to 
build any local
construct and make it available.


-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: acents in other fonts

[Herbert Voss]

Leo Gürtler wrote:
\newfont{\platzhalter}{pnb10}
{\platzhalter
\={a}
}
brngs not the results that was expected.
then something other went wrong. Give a complete
example file.
Herbert
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http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
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http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Windows - no preview

[Paul A. Rubin]

Angus Leeming wrote:
Doesn't 1.3.5 use the python script lyxpreview2ppm.py? 
Yes, it does.
It was, after all,
written especially so that the Windows world might have a hope in hell in
getting it to work.
Hope springs eternal in the Windows world.  It's just seldom fulfilled.
I'd expect your lyxrc.defaults to contain:
\converter lyxpreview ppm "lyxpreview2ppm.py" ""
It does.
-- Paul

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Win32 - install error

[Paul A. Rubin]

Kent Kostuk wrote:
First, I checked textclass.lst:  it's there and non-zero.
Second, I replace sed.
Third, I type configure at the c:\lyx32\share\lyx> DOS prompt and get: a 
lot of text and then "configure: error: cannot find chkconfig.ltx script"

This makes me think I have an error in my PATH statment.  Here is my path:
PATH=C:\lyx32\share\lyx\..\..\bin;C:\lyx32\share\lyx\..\..\bin;c:\program 
files\imagemagick-6.1.7-q16;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\WINNT\system32;C:\WINNT;C:\WINNT\System32\Wbem;C:\PROGRAM 
FILES\THINKPAD\UTILITIES;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Autodesk 
Shared\;C:\PROGRA~1\ULTRAE~1;C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL 
Server\80\Tools\BINN;C:\Program Files\IBM\Director\bin
Your path is ok.  The first two entries are a bit clunky (not to mention 
the second being redundant); I would shorten them to

PATH=C:\lyx32\bin;C:\program files\image...
However, I'm pretty sure what you have there should work, and in any 
case wouldn't cause the "cannot find chkconfig.ltx" message.

-- Paul

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Win32 - install error

[Kent Kostuk]

I did a re-install off the latest version and it worked.  I just 
followed my original procedures, so the updated software must have been 
solution.

Thanks to everyone for the help and time spent on my install problem.
Kent

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Win32 released

[Paul A. Rubin]

Ruurd Reitsma wrote:

At this very moment, not yet. Actually, the new sed makes things worse for
me. What exactly is the new version supposed to do?
Under Windows, lines in the scripts files are delimited by CR/LF 
combinations.  If I recall correctly, sed 3.02 chokes on the CR 
characters, whereas sed 4.0.9 (and presumably later) doesn't.

-- Paul

Re: LyX 1.3.5 for Win32 - install error

[Paul A. Rubin]

Angus Leeming wrote:
Kent Kostuk wrote:
First, I checked textclass.lst:  it's there and non-zero.
Second, I replace sed.
Third, I type configure at the c:\lyx32\share\lyx> DOS prompt and get: a
lot of text and then "configure: error: cannot find chkconfig.ltx script"

I would type "sh configure" if you are running from a DOS prompt as 
opposed to a unix shell. Otherwise, Windows is likely to try and execute 
configure as a batch file. Which it isn't... Or it may be executing 
'configure.cmd', which is ancient, unmaintained historical cruft...
Ruurd ships a DOS batch file named configure.bat (in share\lyx) that 
should work if run from a DOS prompt *in that directory*.  The path in 
the batch file to the bin directory is hardcoded as a relative path (go 
back two levels from where you started, then over to bin), so I don't 
think it will work if the current directory is anything other than 
share\lyx.  That said, I cast my vote for "sh configure".

-- Paul

Re: About version control under windows.

[Matej Cepl]

Wang Xiangqi wrote:
> I am now using Lyx 1.3.5 for windows. Can I use the function of version
> control? Or how can I use it. I have checked the help documentment but
> cannot understand.

You have to download and install RCS programs for Windows. They are
available (I have no idea where, though, I am on Linux) and it is possible
to make it work, but it takes some persistence.

Matej

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Re: LyX <-> XML, Koma-Script <-> XSD & XSL?

[Matej Cepl]

Wolfgang Keller wrote:
> Is there an easy way to convert the content of a LyX document to XML (and
> vice-versa)? And are there XSD and XSL(-FO) equivalent to e.g. the
> Koma-Script package?

Not easy one. It is probably somehow possible (look for "Docbook LaTeX
conversion" on google), but it is far from trivial.

Matej

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Portability of lyx documents for document collaboration

[Fred Nastos]

Hi, I'd like to know if there are any issues with transferring LyX
documents made on Linux to Windows, editing there with LyX,
and then transferring them back to linux.  I don't use Windows
so I haven't been to try this myself.

I have seen the discussions here on the availability of LyX
on Windows.  I collaborate with someone who uses a windows
GUI based wysiwym latex editor (scientific workplace).  When
I send them a latex file, generated by lyx, their program usually
has trouble importing it, and even if it does succesfully import, it
does not, as far as I know, export LyX files.  So I am stuck
editing raw latex with this person.

They should be able to pick up LyX with little effort, but I'm afraid
installing cygwin is too much to ask of them.  I am hoping this
new native Windows port will help.

Thanks

Copyright symbol?

[Gill, Jack]

How does one insert a copyright symbol at the end of a title in an
article(koma-script) document?

Jack

Re: Portability of lyx documents for document collaboration

[Paul Smith]

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:19:07 -0500, Fred Nastos
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I'd like to know if there are any issues with transferring LyX
> documents made on Linux to Windows, editing there with LyX,
> and then transferring them back to linux.  I don't use Windows
> so I haven't been to try this myself.
> 
> I have seen the discussions here on the availability of LyX
> on Windows.  I collaborate with someone who uses a windows
> GUI based wysiwym latex editor (scientific workplace).  When
> I send them a latex file, generated by lyx, their program usually
> has trouble importing it, and even if it does succesfully import, it
> does not, as far as I know, export LyX files.  So I am stuck
> editing raw latex with this person.
> 
> They should be able to pick up LyX with little effort, but I'm afraid
> installing cygwin is too much to ask of them.  I am hoping this
> new native Windows port will help.

Fred,

There is a LyX version for MS Windows with an easy installation
procedure. Have a look at:

http://www.home.zonnet.nl/rareitsma/lyx/

It is not needed any conversion between MS Windows and Linux versions
of LyX - the formats are the same.

Regards,

Paul

Re: Copyright symbol?

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Gill, Jack wrote:
How does one insert a copyright symbol at the end of a title in an
article(koma-script) document?
Jack,
  I've not put it on the title, but in a footnote. The footnote contains:
"Copyright \copyright{} 2005 ...". Try it on your title: ERT of \copyright{}
HTH,
Rich
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Re: Portability of lyx documents for document collaboration

[Paul A. Rubin]

Fred Nastos wrote:
Hi, I'd like to know if there are any issues with transferring LyX
documents made on Linux to Windows, editing there with LyX,
and then transferring them back to linux.  I don't use Windows
so I haven't been to try this myself.
Based on very limited experience, I don't think you'll have any 
cross-platform problems.  LyX documents are just text files, so the only 
issue might be the fact that Linux terminates lines with LF and Windows 
terminates them with CR/LF.  I just opened a document from the Wiki in 
the Win port of 1.3.5 with no problem, and the source file came from 
either Linux or some Unix-derived system (lines terminated in LF).

However, you will need to be sure that the Linux documents were created 
in version 1.3.x of LyX.  The lyx2lyx script, which converts documents 
written in older versions to version 1.3.x, is broken in the Windows 
port.  I downloaded a couple of LyX files from the Wiki that were 
written in 1.2, and could not open them.
I have seen the discussions here on the availability of LyX
on Windows.  I collaborate with someone who uses a windows
GUI based wysiwym latex editor (scientific workplace).
Been there, done that, survived the migraines.  I had a coauthor using 
SciWord, while I used LaTeX (didn't bother to try importing the 
documents into LyX).  Very painful.

When
I send them a latex file, generated by lyx, their program usually
has trouble importing it, and even if it does succesfully import, it
does not, as far as I know, export LyX files.
Correct.  SciWord exports LaTeX, but not LyX (AFAIK).
So I am stuck
editing raw latex with this person.
And, worse yet, SciWord makes extensive use of "proprietary" (perhaps I 
should say unique to SciWord) styles, which you won't find in any 
standard LaTeX distribution.  I'm not sure if it's within licensing 
terms for your collaborator to suppy you with them, and without them the 
exported LaTeX files don't come close to looking the way they should.

They should be able to pick up LyX with little effort, but I'm afraid
installing cygwin is too much to ask of them.  I am hoping this
new native Windows port will help.
There may be a bump or two during installation, but after that it should 
work fine.  However, my impression is that SciWord's UI closely 
resembles that of Word, which is not true of LyX's UI, so there will be 
some learning involved.

-- Paul

RE: Copyright symbol?

[Jack T. Gill]

Worked like a charm, Rich!  Thanks!

Jack 

-Original Message-
From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:00 PM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Copyright symbol?

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Gill, Jack wrote:

> How does one insert a copyright symbol at the end of a title in an
> article(koma-script) document?

Jack,

   I've not put it on the title, but in a footnote. The footnote contains:
"Copyright \copyright{} 2005 ...". Try it on your title: ERT of \copyright{}

HTH,

Rich

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RE: Copyright symbol?

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Jack T. Gill wrote:
Worked like a charm, Rich!  Thanks!
Jack,
  You're welcome.
  There is a book on CTAN called "The Comprehensive LaTeX Symbol List". It
has, probably, every symbol known to mankind and how to declare it in LaTeX
(or, ERT in LyX). A fascinating resource that is a great help.
Rich
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Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863