Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0

2013-01-29 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2013-01-28 17:42:

   * Are you a keynote master? We have something for your Android
 smartphone...


Thorsten poked me on a similar thought a few days ago, stating that this 
specific tool might NOT be ready with 4.0. So, we should be cautious and 
check back with the developers first...


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0

2013-01-29 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le mardi 29 janvier 2013 à 10:40 +0100, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2013-01-28 17:42:
 * Are you a keynote master? We have something for your Android
   smartphone...
 
 Thorsten poked me on a similar thought a few days ago, stating that this 
 specific tool might NOT be ready with 4.0. So, we should be cautious and 
 check back with the developers first...

Three things, sorry to be grumpy about this:
- Thorsten is  to post his comment here as well :-)
- there was a deadline.
- keynote is not the Apple brand product. It's a keynote, as in... a
keynote. Do you think it is confusing? I can find a better term for
this.

Thanks,
 

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0

2013-01-29 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2013-01-29 10:53:


Three things, sorry to be grumpy about this:
- Thorsten is  to post his comment here as well :-)


he probably did not spot that e-mail yet, being busy as hell as 
everyone. ;-)



- there was a deadline.
- keynote is not the Apple brand product. It's a keynote, as in... a
keynote. Do you think it is confusing? I can find a better term for
this.


Well, let me put this straight: We cannot advertise the Android impress 
remote if it is not ready for 4.0...


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0

2013-01-29 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le mardi 29 janvier 2013 à 10:57 +0100, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2013-01-29 10:53:
 
  Three things, sorry to be grumpy about this:
  - Thorsten is  to post his comment here as well :-)
 
 he probably did not spot that e-mail yet, being busy as hell as 
 everyone. ;-)
 
  - there was a deadline.
  - keynote is not the Apple brand product. It's a keynote, as in... a
  keynote. Do you think it is confusing? I can find a better term for
  this.
 
 Well, let me put this straight: We cannot advertise the Android impress 
 remote if it is not ready for 4.0...

Yes, sorry, I understood your message in a completely different way (cf
my other email).

Best,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0

2013-01-29 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2013-01-28 17:42:
* Are you a keynote master? We have something for your Android
  smartphone...
 
 Thorsten poked me on a similar thought a few days ago, stating that
 this specific tool might NOT be ready with 4.0. So, we should be
 cautious and check back with the developers first...
 
The story with the Impress remote currently is, that bluetooth
controlling only works against a Linux LibreOffice. Whether that is
enough for being a headline feature I don't know - just that I
personally love that little thing. ;)

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

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Re: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0

2013-01-27 Thread Immanuel Giulea
+1  to Libreoffice. Tools for real life..

But I would change it to Libreoffice. *Free *tools for real life..



M. / Mr. Immanuel Giulea, BComm
Brossard, QC
514-577-2669


On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.comwrote:

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com
 Date: Jan 26, 2013 7:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0
 To: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org

 I have stated a slogan some time ago... Libreoffice. Tools for real
 life..
 On Jan 26, 2013 11:18 AM, Charles-H. Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

  Hello,
 
  As discussed during our various calls we have three layers of messaging
  (aside nice graphical elements):
  *  the PR itself, announcing the release
  *  the features page, directly based on the release notes on the wiki
  *  between 5 to 10 meta-features to be used as main elements for anyone
checking out what the 4.0 is about. Basically these meta - features
are pretty much the coolest features we have picked out of the
release, and turn them not into specific and well described features,
but rather solutions or ideas. We (a small group of active marketing
team members) opened a wiki page, gathered what we thought were the
top features (and before you ask, this IS subjective) and turn them
into specific phrases, ideas, soundbites for the release.
 
  You can see the result there:
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/40Messaging
  (aka Top Features) and we would like your input. Don't write ten more
  features or ten different features, just tell us if you feel there's
  something missing, or something sounds bad, or that we must have a hole
  in our heads for not having picked this or that feature.
 
  Once this is done, we're shipping this as prime content to the
  website team, and it will go to the 4.0 landing page. The deadline is
  Monday 5 pm CET.
 
  Thanks,
 
  --
  Charles-H. Schulz
  Co-founder  Director, The Document Foundation,
  Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
  Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
  Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
  Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24.
 
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Re: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0

2013-01-27 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
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  From: Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com
  Date: Jan 26, 2013 7:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0
  To: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
 
  I have stated a slogan some time ago... Libreoffice. Tools for real
  life..
  On Jan 26, 2013 11:18 AM, Charles-H. Schulz 
  charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 
   Hello,
  
   As discussed during our various calls we have three layers of
messaging
   (aside nice graphical elements):
   *  the PR itself, announcing the release
   *  the features page, directly based on the release notes on the wiki
   *  between 5 to 10 meta-features to be used as main elements for
anyone
 checking out what the 4.0 is about. Basically these meta -
features
 are pretty much the coolest features we have picked out of the
 release, and turn them not into specific and well described
features,
 but rather solutions or ideas. We (a small group of active marketing
 team members) opened a wiki page, gathered what we thought were the
 top features (and before you ask, this IS subjective) and turn them
 into specific phrases, ideas, soundbites for the release.
  
   You can see the result there:
   https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/40Messaging
   (aka Top Features) and we would like your input. Don't write ten more
   features or ten different features, just tell us if you feel there's
   something missing, or something sounds bad, or that we must have a
hole
   in our heads for not having picked this or that feature.
  
   Once this is done, we're shipping this as prime content to the
   website team, and it will go to the 4.0 landing page. The deadline is
   Monday 5 pm CET.

2013/1/27 Immanuel Giulea giulea.imman...@gmail.com

 +1  to Libreoffice. Tools for real life..

 But I would change it to Libreoffice. *Free *tools for real life..

As the term free can have ambiguous meanings what about using 'Libre'
instead
LibreOffice. *Libre* tools for real life

The only significant difference is use of the word libre instead of
free to distinguish the latter from the other meaning of free in
English: gratis or free of charge. http://freedomdefined.org/Libre

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Re: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0

2013-01-27 Thread Immanuel Giulea
I was going to use *Libre* but hesitated so to not repeat the same word
twice in the slogan.
Free was used in the sense of free speech, not free beer.



M. / Mr. Immanuel Giulea, BComm
Brossard, QC
514-577-2669


On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Daniel A. Rodriguez 
daniel.armando.rodrig...@gmail.com wrote:

   -- Forwarded message --
   From: Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com
   Date: Jan 26, 2013 7:58 PM
   Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0
   To: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
  
   I have stated a slogan some time ago... Libreoffice. Tools for real
   life..
   On Jan 26, 2013 11:18 AM, Charles-H. Schulz 
   charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
  
Hello,
   
As discussed during our various calls we have three layers of
 messaging
(aside nice graphical elements):
*  the PR itself, announcing the release
*  the features page, directly based on the release notes on the wiki
*  between 5 to 10 meta-features to be used as main elements for
 anyone
  checking out what the 4.0 is about. Basically these meta -
 features
  are pretty much the coolest features we have picked out of the
  release, and turn them not into specific and well described
 features,
  but rather solutions or ideas. We (a small group of active
 marketing
  team members) opened a wiki page, gathered what we thought were the
  top features (and before you ask, this IS subjective) and turn them
  into specific phrases, ideas, soundbites for the release.
   
You can see the result there:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/40Messaging
(aka Top Features) and we would like your input. Don't write ten more
features or ten different features, just tell us if you feel there's
something missing, or something sounds bad, or that we must have a
 hole
in our heads for not having picked this or that feature.
   
Once this is done, we're shipping this as prime content to the
website team, and it will go to the 4.0 landing page. The deadline is
Monday 5 pm CET.

 2013/1/27 Immanuel Giulea giulea.imman...@gmail.com
 
  +1  to Libreoffice. Tools for real life..
 
  But I would change it to Libreoffice. *Free *tools for real life..

 As the term free can have ambiguous meanings what about using 'Libre'
 instead
 LibreOffice. *Libre* tools for real life

 The only significant difference is use of the word libre instead of
 free to distinguish the latter from the other meaning of free in
 English: gratis or free of charge. http://freedomdefined.org/Libre


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Re: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0

2013-01-27 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Folks,

One thing: we are focusing on the features at this stage, not the slogan.

Thanks,

Charles.


Immanuel Giulea giulea.imman...@gmail.com a écrit :

I was going to use *Libre* but hesitated so to not repeat the same word
twice in the slogan.
Free was used in the sense of free speech, not free beer.



M. / Mr. Immanuel Giulea, BComm
Brossard, QC
514-577-2669


On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Daniel A. Rodriguez 
daniel.armando.rodrig...@gmail.com wrote:

   -- Forwarded message --
   From: Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com
   Date: Jan 26, 2013 7:58 PM
   Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0
   To: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
  
   I have stated a slogan some time ago... Libreoffice. Tools for
real
   life..
   On Jan 26, 2013 11:18 AM, Charles-H. Schulz 
   charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
  
Hello,
   
As discussed during our various calls we have three layers of
 messaging
(aside nice graphical elements):
*  the PR itself, announcing the release
*  the features page, directly based on the release notes on
the wiki
*  between 5 to 10 meta-features to be used as main elements
for
 anyone
  checking out what the 4.0 is about. Basically these meta -
 features
  are pretty much the coolest features we have picked out of
the
  release, and turn them not into specific and well described
 features,
  but rather solutions or ideas. We (a small group of active
 marketing
  team members) opened a wiki page, gathered what we thought
were the
  top features (and before you ask, this IS subjective) and
turn them
  into specific phrases, ideas, soundbites for the release.
   
You can see the result there:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/40Messaging
(aka Top Features) and we would like your input. Don't write
ten more
features or ten different features, just tell us if you feel
there's
something missing, or something sounds bad, or that we must
have a
 hole
in our heads for not having picked this or that feature.
   
Once this is done, we're shipping this as prime content to
the
website team, and it will go to the 4.0 landing page. The
deadline is
Monday 5 pm CET.

 2013/1/27 Immanuel Giulea giulea.imman...@gmail.com
 
  +1  to Libreoffice. Tools for real life..
 
  But I would change it to Libreoffice. *Free *tools for real
life..

 As the term free can have ambiguous meanings what about using 'Libre'
 instead
 LibreOffice. *Libre* tools for real life

 The only significant difference is use of the word libre instead
of
 free to distinguish the latter from the other meaning of free in
 English: gratis or free of charge. http://freedomdefined.org/Libre


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Re: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0

2013-01-27 Thread Dave Johnson
+1 that great!  Thanks..
On Jan 27, 2013 7:41 AM, Immanuel Giulea giulea.imman...@gmail.com
wrote:

 +1  to Libreoffice. Tools for real life..

 But I would change it to Libreoffice. *Free *tools for real life..


 
 M. / Mr. Immanuel Giulea, BComm
 Brossard, QC
 514-577-2669


 On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.comwrote:

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com
 Date: Jan 26, 2013 7:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0
 To: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org

 I have stated a slogan some time ago... Libreoffice. Tools for real
 life..
 On Jan 26, 2013 11:18 AM, Charles-H. Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

  Hello,
 
  As discussed during our various calls we have three layers of messaging
  (aside nice graphical elements):
  *  the PR itself, announcing the release
  *  the features page, directly based on the release notes on the wiki
  *  between 5 to 10 meta-features to be used as main elements for anyone
checking out what the 4.0 is about. Basically these meta - features
are pretty much the coolest features we have picked out of the
release, and turn them not into specific and well described features,
but rather solutions or ideas. We (a small group of active marketing
team members) opened a wiki page, gathered what we thought were the
top features (and before you ask, this IS subjective) and turn them
into specific phrases, ideas, soundbites for the release.
 
  You can see the result there:
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/40Messaging
  (aka Top Features) and we would like your input. Don't write ten more
  features or ten different features, just tell us if you feel there's
  something missing, or something sounds bad, or that we must have a hole
  in our heads for not having picked this or that feature.
 
  Once this is done, we're shipping this as prime content to the
  website team, and it will go to the 4.0 landing page. The deadline is
  Monday 5 pm CET.
 
  Thanks,
 
  --
  Charles-H. Schulz
  Co-founder  Director, The Document Foundation,
  Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
  Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
  Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
  Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Messaging for the 4.0

2013-01-26 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
And before I forget: 
The Native-Lang are encouraged to tweak and change these top features
to better match their needs and their linguistic/local realities.

Best,
Charles.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:18:51 +0100
Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Hello,
 
 As discussed during our various calls we have three layers of
 messaging (aside nice graphical elements):
 *  the PR itself, announcing the release
 *  the features page, directly based on the release notes on the wiki
 *  between 5 to 10 meta-features to be used as main elements for
 anyone checking out what the 4.0 is about. Basically these meta -
 features are pretty much the coolest features we have picked out of
 the release, and turn them not into specific and well described
 features, but rather solutions or ideas. We (a small group of active
 marketing team members) opened a wiki page, gathered what we thought
 were the top features (and before you ask, this IS subjective) and
 turn them into specific phrases, ideas, soundbites for the release. 
 
 You can see the result there:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/40Messaging
 (aka Top Features) and we would like your input. Don't write ten more
 features or ten different features, just tell us if you feel there's
 something missing, or something sounds bad, or that we must have a
 hole in our heads for not having picked this or that feature. 
 
 Once this is done, we're shipping this as prime content to the
 website team, and it will go to the 4.0 landing page. The deadline is
 Monday 5 pm CET.
 
 Thanks,
 



-- 
Charles-H. Schulz 
Co-founder  Director, The Document Foundation,
Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24.

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