Re: [NTG-context] \FlushStep in module s-pre-50 adds too much space
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 01:39, Curious Learn wrote: Okay, I have installed the minimals. It works with a file I tried without tikz. The examples on the wiki also work well. It does not work with a file that has tikz code in it. It stops compiling with ! Undefined control sequence. l.13 \starttikzpicture Does Tikz not work with mkiv? When you install the minimals, add --extras=t-tikz either to first-setup.sh or run ./first-setup.sh --extras=t-tikz (Run luatools --generate afterwards.) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which revision control system do you use?
Can these thingies also be used for document version/revision control also or are they software dedicated ? If not, what's more appropriate for document version control ? Thanks in advance. Alan On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all, to start the threat here is what I use(d). On my old Windows machines I used Subversion because it was easy to use with TortoiseSVN but since I'm on my Mac I use Mercurial for my files. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which revision control system do you use?
Dnia Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 08:33:33AM +0100, Alan Stone napisa#322;(a): Can these thingies also be used for document version/revision control also or are they software dedicated ? They are a great tool for documents, too - especially if these are plain text files (like in TeX, ConTeXt friends). If not, what's more appropriate for document version control ? Thanks in advance. Alan Regards -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem of transfering bib to bbl in Chinese.
Hi, Wei-Wei Guo wrote: 2. The pubsep can be set in \setupcite, but it doesn't affect the separation between compressed citations. For example, I set 'pubsep={;}' and I still get (Hoekwater 2008, 2009). How to change the comma between 2008 and 2009? Can't do that. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?
Wei-Wei Guo wrote: Hi everyone, After fighting with ConTeXt one month, I find it's too difficult. I have two years experience of LaTeX. I never thought ConTeXt could be so difficult. Using ConTeXt is like climbing a steep mountain, every step need extensive searching, reading, and asking. This is not intended to put you down, but i could have answered all your bib module questions with 'no', and that would have been a lot easier to understand. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which revision control system do you use?
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com writes: Hi all, to start the threat here is what I use(d). On my old Windows machines I used Subversion because it was easy to use with TortoiseSVN but since I'm on my Mac I use Mercurial for my files. I use git. Originally for programming, but it is very useful for context too. I used to use SVN too, but now prefer git because: - it is very fast (instant for most things). - Project repositories seem to stay small, disk space is used very efficiently. - easy per-project repositories, each project is it's own independent repository. All the history is under a single, hidden .git folder at the root of the project. No central server to maintain. - I found the continuously incrementing svn repository version number confusing with respect to multiple projects. And I seem to recall problems with svn when directories were moved around within a project. - Git has a some nice graphical history visualisation and diff tools. -- John Devereux ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?
Corin Royal Drummond wrote: Many have voiced the same complaint. I understand that Hans and every one are occupied with building MKIV (aka LuaTeX), and that documentation is not their highest priority. There's the wiki, the wonderfully active mailing list, and what used to be decent docs from 2001/2002 timeframe. But yes, it's a steep hill to climb, made worth it only by the relative awesomeness of ConTeXt. You missed the reference manual rewrite effort (which is now in remission mostly because of an extremely depressing lack of user feedback). http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page#Documentation Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?
En/na Corin Royal Drummond ha escrit: Wei-Wei Guo wrote: Hi everyone, After fighting with ConTeXt one month, I find it's too difficult. I have two years experience of LaTeX. I never thought ConTeXt could be so difficult. Using ConTeXt is like climbing a steep mountain, every step need extensive searching, reading, and asking. Sorry for the useless complain. I'm stuck by so many problems. I might be lack of the basic knowledge of ConTeXt. Could someone tell me where I can find manuals or papers that describe the logic of ConTeXt design and basics of ConTeXt programming. Thanks in advance. Best wishes, Wei-Wei Yes, there is a hole in that way. I'm agree too. Many have voiced the same complaint. I understand that Hans and every one are occupied with building MKIV (aka LuaTeX), and that documentation is not their highest priority. There's the wiki, the wonderfully active mailing list, and what used to be decent docs from 2001/2002 timeframe. But yes, it's a steep hill to climb, made worth it only by the relative awesomeness of ConTeXt. If there is an existing strategy for creating documentation, I'd love to hear it. My feeling is it's it's time to pay someone to write some good docs. Someone who's not on the development team, who has experience writing technical documentation, and who can shepard list members into crowd sourcing some real documentation. The problem is who. Who has this high technical knowledge and he/she is not developer?. People I know that have this high tech knowledge of ConTeXt is developer. MKIV is stabilizing into usefulness, and now is a good time to start. I suspect list members would donate to such a project, plus we could get some grant money (if that's not all dried up due to the global economy), and maybe some contribution from Pragma itself, and other orgs that depend on ConTeXt. A patchwork quilt of financing, and a project coordinator/writer who sees their work as a labor of love, and a side job, could make this happen. Even if we could only afford 10 hours of work a week, that could get a lot done. In terms of process, I think someone to comb the list archives for common problems and solutions, and wikify them would get the most bang for the buck initially. These wiki entries could later be ConTeXtified into printed (and screen) docs, like Hans' awesome old manuals. Good idea. Just a suggestion. If someone starts new documentation, it should be free. Now the only documentation for users is ConTeXt manual, Context, an excursion (and some PracTeX journal and MAPS journal articles). These documents are copyrated by Pragma. And for the other hand the license of documentation of ConTeXt is Creative Commons Atribution Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0. I think it's better if the new documentation were free: Creative Commons Attribution 3.0, Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 or GNU Free Documentation License. It could estimulate more users than now. It's my opinion. Honestly, we've got smart people wasting time answering the same questions in different ways on the list, when they could be plugging in some of that time into writing docs for everyone. And as useful as the list is, it's no substitute for manuals. Really how many people are using ConTeXt and how many developers are here? For example, how many people are subscribing in this list: it could tells us what's the number of users. If I understood ConTeXt I'd volunteer, but I'm a noob, so I'm feeling the same frustration as Wei-Wei. I feel bad having to bug developers and advanced users every time I have a basic question. It's inefficient and inelegant, though I much appreciate the access to great minds and the window into the development process this has given me. Pile on to this thread, if this is a burning issue for you, or you have some strategy or expertise to offer. Cheers, Corin Regards, Xan (a simple user) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?
Xan wrote: En/na Corin Royal Drummond ha escrit: Wei-Wei Guo wrote: Hi everyone, After fighting with ConTeXt one month, I find it's too difficult. I have two years experience of LaTeX. I never thought ConTeXt could be so difficult. Using ConTeXt is like climbing a steep mountain, every step need extensive searching, reading, and asking. Sorry for the useless complain. I'm stuck by so many problems. I might be lack of the basic knowledge of ConTeXt. Could someone tell me where I can find manuals or papers that describe the logic of ConTeXt design and basics of ConTeXt programming. Thanks in advance. Best wishes, Wei-Wei Yes, there is a hole in that way. I'm agree too. Many have voiced the same complaint. I understand that Hans and every one are occupied with building MKIV (aka LuaTeX), and that documentation is not their highest priority. There's the wiki, the wonderfully active mailing list, and what used to be decent docs from 2001/2002 timeframe. But yes, it's a steep hill to climb, made worth it only by the relative awesomeness of ConTeXt. If there is an existing strategy for creating documentation, I'd love to hear it. My feeling is it's it's time to pay someone to write some good docs. Someone who's not on the development team, who has experience writing technical documentation, and who can shepard list members into crowd sourcing some real documentation. The problem is who. Who has this high technical knowledge and he/she is not developer?. People I know that have this high tech knowledge of ConTeXt is developer. MKIV is stabilizing into usefulness, and now is a good time to start. I suspect list members would donate to such a project, plus we could get some grant money (if that's not all dried up due to the global economy), and maybe some contribution from Pragma itself, and other orgs that depend on ConTeXt. A patchwork quilt of financing, and a project coordinator/writer who sees their work as a labor of love, and a side job, could make this happen. Even if we could only afford 10 hours of work a week, that could get a lot done. In terms of process, I think someone to comb the list archives for common problems and solutions, and wikify them would get the most bang for the buck initially. These wiki entries could later be ConTeXtified into printed (and screen) docs, like Hans' awesome old manuals. Good idea. Just a suggestion. If someone starts new documentation, it should be free. Now the only documentation for users is ConTeXt manual, Context, an excursion (and some PracTeX journal and MAPS journal articles). These documents are copyrated by Pragma. And for the other hand the license of documentation of ConTeXt is Creative Commons Atribution Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0. I think it's better if the new documentation were free: Creative Commons Attribution 3.0, Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 or GNU Free Documentation License. It could estimulate more users than now. It's my opinion. You missed the reference manual rewrite effort (which is now in remission mostly because of an extremely depressing lack of user feedback). http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page#Documentation That is GNU FDL. Really how many people are using ConTeXt and how many developers are here? For example, how many people are subscribing in this list: it could tells us what's the number of users. About 500, IIRC. Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which revision control system do you use?
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 08:58, John Devereux j...@devereux.me.uk wrote: I use git. Originally for programming, but it is very useful for context too. I can also recommend Git. It's fast, easy to use (no, really!), and very actively developed. What's most important about using Git, though, is that it seems to be the most future-proof alternative. I'm sure Mercurial will be around for a long time, just as Subversion will, but of all the SCMs Git has the best foundation. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?
En/na Taco Hoekwater ha escrit: Xan wrote: Good idea. Just a suggestion. If someone starts new documentation, it should be free. Now the only documentation for users is ConTeXt manual, Context, an excursion (and some PracTeX journal and MAPS journal articles). These documents are copyrated by Pragma. And for the other hand the license of documentation of ConTeXt is Creative Commons Atribution Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0. I think it's better if the new documentation were free: Creative Commons Attribution 3.0, Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 or GNU Free Documentation License. It could estimulate more users than now. It's my opinion. You missed the reference manual rewrite effort (which is now in remission mostly because of an extremely depressing lack of user feedback). http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page#Documentation That is GNU FDL. You refer to this link [http://foundry.supelec.fr/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/context-reference/en/?root=contextman]?? Where is the license explicited? There is no README/LICENSE or analogous file and no head license in every .tex file. Ooops, not: in [http://foundry.supelec.fr/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/context-reference/en/contextref.tex?root=contextmanview=markup] I see the license. Sorry But should it put in every .tex file or in a LICENSE file? I'm not lawyer. Just a question. Really how many people are using ConTeXt and how many developers are here? For example, how many people are subscribing in this list: it could tells us what's the number of users. About 500, IIRC. Thanks Taco. Xan. Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?
Xan wrote: But should it put in every .tex file or in a LICENSE file? I'm not lawyer. Just a question. There is a COPYING in the one 'up' directory. It would be good to add a license pointer to every source file, that is true. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 2:55 AM, Wei-Wei Guo wwgu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Hi Wei-Wei, Please enjoy what's underneath and give yourself a second chance to reconsider your point of view... After fighting with ConTeXt one month, Those who live are those who fight. - Victor Hugo I find it's too difficult. The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn. - Alvin Toffler Anyone who stops learning is old, whether at twenty or eighty. - Henry Ford Learning is a treasure that will follow its owner everywhere. - Chinese Proverb I have two years experience of LaTeX. How about acquiring a two year experience, and more, in ConTeXt ? ;O) I never thought ConTeXt could be so difficult. There are two ways of meeting difficulties: You alter the difficulties or you alter yourself to meet them. - Phyllis Bottome Using ConTeXt is like climbing a steep mountain, every step need extensive searching, reading, and asking. I've learned that everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it. - Unknown When you reach the top, keep climbing. - Unknown Sorry for the useless complain. From my own experience, amongst others, in this mailing list... Be your guest. :O) I'm stuck by so many problems. I never believed I wouldn't make it - and perhaps that's why I've always found work. I've always stuck at everything I've ever done. I absolutely won't give up. - Amanda Holden I might be lack of the basic knowledge of ConTeXt. Could someone tell me where I can find manuals or papers that describe the logic of ConTeXt design and basics of ConTeXt programming. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page Getting Started and Documentation sections. Thanks in advance. Best wishes, Wei-Wei Two others for the road... If you're not failing every now and again, it's a sign you're not doing anything very innovative. - Woody Allen Keep on beginning and failing. Each time you fail, start all over again, and you will grow stronger until you have accomplished a purpose - not the one you began with perhaps, but one you'll be glad to remember. - Ann Sullivan Hope this helps, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?
Yes, there are may fruitful pages in ConTeXt wiki. But all wiki resources have the same problem: If you know what you are looking for, it's helpful. If not, it would be a time hole. And I was told that MkIV progresses so fast that many things in the current manuals are out of date. I don't know which manual I should stick with. To make thing worse, there are so many places containing ConTeXt tutorials and manuals(see the following list). - wiki.contextgarden.net - http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextman/ - http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/ - http://www.pragma-ade.com/dir?path= Those materials are scattered, overlapped and not complete. It makes new users, like me, don't know what to read. If all those materials are put in only one place and companying with two and only two complete manuals, one for developer and one for user, it would be time saving for both users and developers. Then the next time when I meet command like '\??pb', I could look for it in manuals first, then wiki probably, then mail list. If I don't find answer in those three places, I would know the command is not documented then I could ask in the mail list without hesitating and worrying about wasting other people's time. To Taco: My emails don't mean any offense to you. You give me lots of help. I really appreciate it. To Alan: Thanks, your proverbs are very inspiriting. To Xan and Corin: Thanks for your understanding. Best wishes, Wei-Wei Corin Royal Drummond 写道: In terms of process, I think someone to comb the list archives for common problems and solutions, and wikify them would get the most bang for the buck initially. These wiki entries could later be ConTeXtified into printed (and screen) docs, like Hans' awesome old manuals. Honestly, we've got smart people wasting time answering the same questions in different ways on the list, when they could be plugging in some of that time into writing docs for everyone. And as useful as the list is, it's no substitute for manuals. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] new beta
Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff is renamed to tabl-table stuff - several changes in file names and splits of files - for those using helpers, in mkiv now syst-aux is the place to look - some non used files removed - some speedup of helper macros (only in mkiv) On Taco and my machine test docs come out right but there might be problems left (no tricky new things so solvable fast). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new beta
Alan Stone wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff is renamed to tabl-table stuff - several changes in file names and splits of files - for those using helpers, in mkiv now syst-aux is the place to look what are helpers ? \doifelse cum suis (there are also some obscure ones that might go away some day, maybe we should make a list of those used by users) - some non used files removed - some speedup of helper macros (only in mkiv) what are helper macros useful for ? well, they play a role in the user interface so the faster they run the better (and since we now only use engines that have etex, i'm removing traces of non-etex variants, at least in mkiv) for instance, in mkiv, the typescript parsing should be faster now, but not all documents use that extensively; if you have 1000 (sub)section titles grabbing args is also a bit faster in general, saving some .05 second on 1 calls for such helpers is not much but it adds up (and in mkiv we need that because other tasks take more time) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new beta
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff is renamed to tabl-table stuff - several changes in file names and splits of files - for those using helpers, in mkiv now syst-aux is the place to look what are helpers ? - some non used files removed - some speedup of helper macros (only in mkiv) what are helper macros useful for ? On Taco and my machine test docs come out right but there might be problems left (no tricky new things so solvable fast). Hans ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \startMPinclusions[+]
In mkii this could be used to add material to metapost runs: \startMPinclusions[+] . \stopMPInclusions This stopped working in the latest stable version I have seen: ConTeXt ver: 2008.10.31 13:58 MKIV fmt: 2008.12.17 Is it already fixed? Or can a quick patch be given? Hans van der Meer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Problem updating Tikz in minimals
Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.lists at gmail.com writes: When you install the minimals, add --extras=t-tikz either to first-setup.sh or run ./first-setup.sh --extras=t-tikz (Run luatools --generate afterwards.) Mojca Thanks Aditya and Mojca. Mojca, I tried running that; a lot of things happen, but the process stops with following lines (last few lines I copied and pasted from my terminal window __ LuaTools | saving merge from cont-nl.lua LuaTools | using compiled initialization file: cont-nl.luc LuaTools | using lua initialization file: cont-nl.luc LuaTools | running command: luatex --ini --lua=cont-nl.luc /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-nl.tex \\dump This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.35.0 (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-nl.tex (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.mkiv (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/syst-ini.tex ! LuaTeX error \directlua0:1: attempt to call field 'extraprimitives' (a nil value) stack traceback: \directlua0:1: in main chunk. l.111 } ? h The lua interpreter ran into a problem, so the remainder of this lua chunk will be ignored. ? __ I tried deleting everything in minimals folder and restarted the process and I get the same error. If I do not type the --extras=t-tikz (after deleting everything, except texmf-local, from the minimals folder) then there is no problem. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem updating Tikz in minimals
Am 17.03.2009 um 14:33 schrieb Curious Learn: stack traceback: \directlua0:1: in main chunk. l.111 } ? h The lua interpreter ran into a problem, so the remainder of this lua chunk will be ignored. You need a recent LuaTeX. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new beta
Hans Hagen schrieb: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff is renamed to tabl-table stuff - several changes in file names and splits of files - for those using helpers, in mkiv now syst-aux is the place to look - some non used files removed - some speedup of helper macros (only in mkiv) On Taco and my machine test docs come out right but there might be problems left (no tricky new things so solvable fast). maybe you should have noticed, that you need the latest (still warm from compilation) luatex for this... anyhow, there is a small problem with colors in mkii. \setupcolors[state=start] \starttext \red \showcolorcomponents[red,green,blue] \stoptext the global color \red messes up the values in the \showcolorcomponents output. no such problem with mkiv. Peter Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- Es ist doch ein Trost, das Geldgier manchmal blöd macht. - Kottan in Kottan ermittelt, Folge 9: Die Einteilung - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Thumbtabs on edge of pages.
Apparently this facility exists in primitive form via some special styles in LaTeX. Is there any facility for same in Context? Ideally the thumbtabs would line up with the corresponding chapter entries in the first (summary) TOC. Of course one can always cobble something up, but I am hoping that someone has already done the cobbling. -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Thumbtabs on edge of pages.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:45 PM, John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote: Apparently this facility exists in primitive form via some special styles in LaTeX. Is there any facility for same in Context? Ideally the thumbtabs would line up with the corresponding chapter entries in the first (summary) TOC. Of course one can always cobble something up, but I am hoping that someone has already done the cobbling. Do you have an example ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new beta
Peter Rolf wrote: Hans Hagen schrieb: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff is renamed to tabl-table stuff - several changes in file names and splits of files - for those using helpers, in mkiv now syst-aux is the place to look - some non used files removed - some speedup of helper macros (only in mkiv) On Taco and my machine test docs come out right but there might be problems left (no tricky new things so solvable fast). maybe you should have noticed, that you need the latest (still warm from compilation) luatex for this... anyhow, there is a small problem with colors in mkii. \setupcolors[state=start] \starttext \red \showcolorcomponents[red,green,blue] \stoptext the global color \red messes up the values in the \showcolorcomponents output. no such problem with mkiv. use \setupcolors[textcolor=red] as \red does some nasty auto grouping which in your case has side effects - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] type-win.tex
Hi i just added the type-win file tothe beta - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new beta
Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Hans Hagen schrieb: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff is renamed to tabl-table stuff - several changes in file names and splits of files - for those using helpers, in mkiv now syst-aux is the place to look - some non used files removed - some speedup of helper macros (only in mkiv) On Taco and my machine test docs come out right but there might be problems left (no tricky new things so solvable fast). maybe you should have noticed, that you need the latest (still warm from compilation) luatex for this... anyhow, there is a small problem with colors in mkii. \setupcolors[state=start] \starttext \red \showcolorcomponents[red,green,blue] \stoptext the global color \red messes up the values in the \showcolorcomponents output. no such problem with mkiv. use \setupcolors[textcolor=red] as \red does some nasty auto grouping which in your case has side effects ok, good to know. but it was no example from the real world anyway. - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- Es ist doch ein Trost, das Geldgier manchmal blöd macht. - Kottan in Kottan ermittelt, Folge 9: Die Einteilung - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] mkiv
Hi, I want to switch to the new structure code in mkiv. This can result in some temporary problems (probably mostly commands that i forgot to port) but i need the switch in order to be able to optimize and cleanup that code. So best make a copy of your minimal. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:52, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Also, we put periods after section numbers, so no 1.2 Section, but rather 1.2. Section. \setuplabeltext [pl] [section={{},{.}}] Hello Aditya, Interesting trick, thanks. But the problem is that references then ignore the dot. So \in[ref] gives me only 1 instead of 1.. Also, it's non-recursive (but that is not so problematic). Redefining the numbercommand seems to work a tiny bit better for me, but I would prefer to have a better automatic solution based on the chosen language (so that 1.1.. will start appearing in my old documents :) :) :) :) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \startMPinclusions[+]
On 17 mrt 2009, at 20:14, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 13:19, Hans van der Meer wrote: In mkii this could be used to add material to metapost runs: \startMPinclusions[+] . \stopMPInclusions This stopped working in the latest stable version I have seen: ConTeXt ver: 2008.10.31 13:58 MKIV fmt: 2008.12.17 Is it already fixed? Or can a quick patch be given? What does the [+] do? I usually put multiple \startMPinclusions and they are all respected (at least it mkii; in mkiv they were not, but Hans probably fixed something in this respect two weeks ago; I did not have a chance to test that yet). Mojca In january 2006 Hans Hagen wrote to me about the following he promised to include. Could it be this has been forgotten in the mean time? Hans van der Meer wrote: I thought to incrementally add to MPinclusions by successive blocks \startMPinclusions .. \stopMPinclusions \startMPinclusions .. \stopMPinclusions etc. But according to the generated mp-file it seems to incorporate the last one only. Is this correct and if so, is it an option to allow appending in the above manner? Or will that be too difficult to build. (patch supp-mps.tex) \def\startMPinclusions {\dosingleempty\dostartMPinclusions} \long\def\dostartMPinclusions[#1]#2\stopMPinclusions % document wide {\doifelse{#1}{+} {...@ea\long\@ea\d...@ea\thempinclusions\@EA {\theMPinclusions \writeMPgraphic{#2}}} {\long\def\theMPinclusions {% \expanded ! \...@ea\expanded\@e...@ea\writempgraphic\@EA{\the\MPextensions;}} % new \writeMPgraphic{#2 \def\MPinclusions {\dosingleempty\doMPinclusions} \long\def\doMPinclusions[#1]#2% {\startMPinclusions[#1]#2\stopMPinclusions} now you can say \startMPinclusions[+] i'll add this feature Hans ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!
Am 17.03.2009 um 20:12 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:52, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Also, we put periods after section numbers, so no 1.2 Section, but rather 1.2. Section. \setuplabeltext [pl] [section={{},{.}}] Hello Aditya, Interesting trick, thanks. But the problem is that references then ignore the dot. So \in[ref] gives me only 1 instead of 1.. Also, it's non-recursive (but that is not so problematic). Redefining the numbercommand seems to work a tiny bit better for me, but I would prefer to have a better automatic solution based on the chosen language (so that 1.1.. will start appearing in my old documents :) :) :) :) Let's hope the stopper key for \setuphead will work in MkIV. Language depends settings are possible with start/stoplanguagespecifics but it's broken :-( \startlanguagespecifics[sl] \setuphead [chapter,section,subsection] [numbercommand=\groupedcommand{}{.}] \stoplanguagespecifics \starttext \section{Knuth} \input knuth \page \mainlanguage[sl] \section{Tufte} \input tufte \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \startMPinclusions[+]
2009/3/17 Hans van der Meer: On 17 mrt 2009, at 20:14, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 13:19, Hans van der Meer wrote: In mkii this could be used to add material to metapost runs: \startMPinclusions[+] . \stopMPInclusions This stopped working in the latest stable version I have seen: ConTeXt ver: 2008.10.31 13:58 MKIV fmt: 2008.12.17 Is it already fixed? Or can a quick patch be given? Sorry, I have mixed up inclusions and extensions. The code with [+] works OK here with both 2008.07.31 and 2009.03.17 version of ConTeXt. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \startMPinclusions[+]
Could it be the version of LuaTeX why this fails with me? I am using: This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.3-2008112814, build Hans van der Meer On 17 mrt 2009, at 21:29, Mojca Miklavec wrote: 2009/3/17 Hans van der Meer: On 17 mrt 2009, at 20:14, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 13:19, Hans van der Meer wrote: In mkii this could be used to add material to metapost runs: \startMPinclusions[+] . \stopMPInclusions This stopped working in the latest stable version I have seen: ConTeXt ver: 2008.10.31 13:58 MKIV fmt: 2008.12.17 Is it already fixed? Or can a quick patch be given? Sorry, I have mixed up inclusions and extensions. The code with [+] works OK here with both 2008.07.31 and 2009.03.17 version of ConTeXt. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 20:56, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 17.03.2009 um 20:12 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:52, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Also, we put periods after section numbers, so no 1.2 Section, but rather 1.2. Section. \setuplabeltext [pl] [section={{},{.}}] Hello Aditya, Interesting trick, thanks. But the problem is that references then ignore the dot. So \in[ref] gives me only 1 instead of 1.. Also, it's non-recursive (but that is not so problematic). Redefining the numbercommand seems to work a tiny bit better for me, but I would prefer to have a better automatic solution based on the chosen language (so that 1.1.. will start appearing in my old documents :) :) :) :) Let's hope the stopper key for \setuphead will work in MkIV. Language depends settings are possible with start/stoplanguagespecifics but it's broken :-( \startlanguagespecifics[sl] \setuphead [chapter,section,subsection] [numbercommand=\groupedcommand{}{.}] \stoplanguagespecifics Hello Wolfgang, I was often tempted to do that (in some less fancy way than with groupedcommand :) by default ... but maybe some user wants \setuphead[section][numbercommand=\xxx] \def\xxx#1{\framed{#1}} or whatever else and that would interfere with the existing numbercommand= that's specific to one language. Proper support for stopper would be much better. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] pinyin in context
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:23:50PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 16.03.2009 um 17:17 schrieb Bill Long: The pinyin has 5 kind of tone for one pronunciation. As it's hard to input, and in CJK 1,2,3,4 are use to represent the tone, (the fifth is no special tone mark). In the book for children, the pinyin always show above the Chinese like the picture I upload. A solution like can be easy integrated in a ruby command because you need only a command parameter for the ruby text, e.g. \setupruby[command=\pinyin] but you're looking for something like the translate module. In fact, 2 features I need, 1. the easy way to support PinYin, both input and the format, As I mentioned, I hope the pinyin can be placed over the Chinese character it represented automatically with some environment or so. 2. automatic convert/add pinyin to Chinese Character , now I use sed to make, but I still hope there are some more easy way. To make it show correctly is an good start, but if there are some tools to automatic add PinYin , it will be more attractive. In Chinese they do have the character which have multi pronunciation, but most of them only has single pronunciation, I can try to find out some dict to translate Chinese Character into PinYin if anyone can help integrate this convert tool into context. If you can provide such a list Hans can add the information to char- def.lua, for the moment you have to rely on my \pinyin command, I have now written a new version on a word macro I found. Wolfgang \startluacode function commands.pinyin(str) str = string.gsub(str,r1,1r) str = string.gsub(str,r2,2r) str = string.gsub(str,r3,3r) str = string.gsub(str,r4,4r) str = string.gsub(str,r5,5r) str = string.gsub(str,ng1,1ng) str = string.gsub(str,ng2,2ng) str = string.gsub(str,ng3,3ng) str = string.gsub(str,ng4,4ng) str = string.gsub(str,ng5,5ng) str = string.gsub(str,n1,1n) str = string.gsub(str,n2,2n) str = string.gsub(str,n3,3n) str = string.gsub(str,n4,4n) str = string.gsub(str,n1,5n) str = string.gsub(str,ai1,a1i) str = string.gsub(str,ai2,a2i) str = string.gsub(str,ai3,a3i) str = string.gsub(str,ai4,a4i) str = string.gsub(str,ai5,a5i) str = string.gsub(str,ei1,e1i) str = string.gsub(str,ei2,e2i) str = string.gsub(str,ei3,e3i) str = string.gsub(str,ei4,e4i) str = string.gsub(str,ei5,e5i) str = string.gsub(str,ao1,a1o) str = string.gsub(str,ao2,a2o) str = string.gsub(str,ao3,a3o) str = string.gsub(str,ao4,a4o) str = string.gsub(str,ao5,a5o) str = string.gsub(str,ou1,o1u) str = string.gsub(str,ou2,o2u) str = string.gsub(str,ou3,o3u) str = string.gsub(str,ou4,o4u) str = string.gsub(str,ou5,o5u) str = string.gsub(str,uu1,v1) str = string.gsub(str,uu2,v2) str = string.gsub(str,uu3,v3) str = string.gsub(str,uu4,v4) str = string.gsub(str,uu,ü) -- is this correct? it's correct, although this character maybe rarely/never been used with this tone. str = string.gsub(str,o1,ō) str = string.gsub(str,o2,ó) str = string.gsub(str,o3,ǒ) str = string.gsub(str,o4,ò) str = string.gsub(str,e1,ē) str = string.gsub(str,e2,é) str = string.gsub(str,e3,ě) str = string.gsub(str,e4,è) str = string.gsub(str,i1,ī) str = string.gsub(str,i2,í) str = string.gsub(str,i3,ǐ) str = string.gsub(str,i4,ì) str = string.gsub(str,u1,ū) str = string.gsub(str,u2,ú) str = string.gsub(str,u3,ǔ) str = string.gsub(str,u4,ù) str = string.gsub(str,v1,ǖ) str = string.gsub(str,v2,ǘ) str = string.gsub(str,v3,ǚ) str = string.gsub(str,v4,ǜ) str = string.gsub(str,a1,ā) str = string.gsub(str,a2,á) str = string.gsub(str,a3,ǎ) str = string.gsub(str,a4,à) tex.sprint(tex.ctxcatcodes,str) end \stopluacode \def\pinyin#1{\ctxlua{commands.pinyin([[#1]])}} \starttext \definedfont[name:arialunicodems*default] \pinyin{ni2hao3} \pinyin{huai4} \stoptext ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki
Re: [NTG-context] pinyin in context
wolf-newjap.tex Description: Binary data wolf-jap.tex Description: Binary data js-ruby.tex Description: Binary data Am 17.03.2009 um 22:22 schrieb Bill Long: In fact, 2 features I need, 1. the easy way to support PinYin, both input and the format, As I mentioned, I hope the pinyin can be placed over the Chinese character it represented automatically with some environment or so. I attached a few old files I used to simple ruby texts but none of them is a perfect solution, if you get a proper macro it should support complex and simple ruby. 2. automatic convert/add pinyin to Chinese Character , now I use sed to make, but I still hope there are some more easy way. Arthur list can be used for this but you still ned markup to show which characters need reading and then you could also use a ruby command. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] font switching questions
Ahoi, Following a previous discussion, I've been advised to try to avoid \switchtobodyfont and use \definedfont or \definefont instead. (1) What's the difference between \definefont and \definedfont ? (2) In the underneath example... (2a) how to implement \define(d)font for font switching ? (2b) how to define \myFontHook ? Thanks, Alan \usemodule[t-lettrine] \usetypescriptfile[tps_arial] \usetypescript[arial] \definetypeface[myFont][arial] \usetypescriptfile[tps_timesnewroman] \usetypescript[timesnewroman] \definetypeface[myOtherFont][timesnewroman] \def\myFontSize{12pt} \def\myOtherFontSize{20pt} \setupbodyfont[myFont,\myFontSize] \setuphead[chapter][style={\switchtobodyfont[myOtherFont,\myOtherFontSize]}] \starttext \chapter{Chapter One} %\lettrine[FontHook={\myFontHook}]{T}{hus}, I came to the conclusion that the designer of a new \lettrine{T}{hus}, I came to the conclusion that the designer of a new system must not only be the implementer and first large-- scale user; the designer should also write the first user manual. \stoptext ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions
Alan Stone wrote: Ahoi, Following a previous discussion, I've been advised to try to avoid \switchtobodyfont and use \definedfont or \definefont instead. what is better depends on the situation - for a structured document using \switchtobodyfont is ok - for special layout elements (headers, title pages, keywords) \definefont might be handier (esp when funny sizes are used) - when using \definefont it can be handy to use the symbolic names (Serif, SansBold etc) and sizes (sa 1.2) because that makes redefinition easier (1) What's the difference between \definefont and \definedfont ? \definefont defines a macro that represents a font, and \definedfont just switches to a font (the forst one is more efficient when you switch often) (2) In the underneath example... (2a) how to implement \define(d)font for font switching ? (2b) how to define \myFontHook ? Thanks, Alan \usemodule[t-lettrine] \usetypescriptfile[tps_arial] \usetypescript[arial] ... just look how gyre typefaces are defined \setupbodyfont[myFont,\myFontSize] just \setupbodyfont[myFont,12pt] and an occasional \definefont[BigFont][SerifBold sa 3.5] which gives you \BigFont \setuphead[chapter][style={\switchtobodyfont[myOtherFont,\myOtherFontSize]}] it depends on what can occur in a title, if there's math and monospaced and whatever being used mixed, then best use a typeface (apart from the one time definition it's quite fast to switch a typeface) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 20:56, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 17.03.2009 um 20:12 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:52, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Also, we put periods after section numbers, so no 1.2 Section, but rather 1.2. Section. \setuplabeltext [pl] [section={{},{.}}] Hello Aditya, Interesting trick, thanks. But the problem is that references then ignore the dot. So \in[ref] gives me only 1 instead of 1.. Also, it's non-recursive (but that is not so problematic). Redefining the numbercommand seems to work a tiny bit better for me, but I would prefer to have a better automatic solution based on the chosen language (so that 1.1.. will start appearing in my old documents :) :) :) :) Let's hope the stopper key for \setuphead will work in MkIV. Language depends settings are possible with start/stoplanguagespecifics but it's broken :-( \startlanguagespecifics[sl] \setuphead [chapter,section,subsection] [numbercommand=\groupedcommand{}{.}] \stoplanguagespecifics Hello Wolfgang, I was often tempted to do that (in some less fancy way than with groupedcommand :) by default ... but maybe some user wants \setuphead[section][numbercommand=\xxx] \def\xxx#1{\framed{#1}} or whatever else and that would interfere with the existing numbercommand= that's specific to one language. Proper support for stopper would be much better. mkiv (xp) has much more control over conversion, separators, stoppers as well as control over each of them with respect to typesetting; also, it can be different for all places where numbers are used; of course this comes at a price ... the more one can tune, the more complex things get - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: - for a structured document using \switchtobodyfont is ok What do you mean with structured document? Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Step wise presentation.
Currently what is the best solution for presentation with steps in Context that works with the stable version of MKIV. The one that you can get with ./first-setup.sh --context=current If I need to install any addon module for your recommendation (i.e., if it does not come with minimals), kindly let me know. Thanks for your feedback. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] TeXshop instructions on Context Minimals (Mac installation)
Hello, I installed the stable version of Context Minimals and then followed the instructions given on the Context Minimals/Mac Installation page. When I choose ConTeXt-MKIV as my engine and try to typeset the document I get the following error. Users/Name/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-MKIV.engine does not have the executable bit set. This is when only pdftex is selected in the dropdown Typeset menu. It is true that the instructions on Context Minimals/Mac Installation page say that Context should also be selected in this dropdown Typeset menu. But if I try to do that, the engine automatically switches to Context that existed in the Engines menu, before I installed Minimals and before I added Context-MKII and ConTeXt-MKIV engines. This ConTeXt engine is MKII. Can someone please help with this? Thanks. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___