Re: [NTG-context] new units
On 5/7/2023 11:29 AM, Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context wrote: On Sun, 7 May 2023 at 11:11, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: And what’s the abbreviation for Theodores? I assume it must be "tr", though it's somewhat ambiguous what the "r" in "tr" stands for, it seems to be country-dependent ;) actually: as arthur and you are in charge of the language patterns, guess who will sort this out, Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new units
On 5/7/2023 11:29 AM, Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context wrote: On Sun, 7 May 2023 at 11:11, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: And what’s the abbreviation for Theodores? I assume it must be "tr", though it's somewhat ambiguous what the "r" in "tr" stands for, it seems to be country-dependent ;) The problem with introducing the theodore is that it introduces another 'male name' unit while actually the new ones got 'female names' in order to counter the didot and cicero (and dk although we considere that a neutral unit), which was one of the projects objectives. Okay, we can from now on assume the 'mm' to be the Mojca which is also more officient: 4 mojcas instead of 4 millimeters. It's a downward compatible change (only in the documentation). Then we can introduce the tr as precisely 5 es, a kind of snaposhot unit, whgich makes me wonder, as the theodore eventually will come close to a foot we might have a \thfactor then that starts out at 5. We can decide at the ctx meeting. (In case one wonders: because internally tex works with fractions mm/cm and ts/es (/tr) make sense.) (As explained during the presentation, adding units to luametatex is not really putting a (performance) burden on this engine. In pdftex and luatex it would have an impact, although in luatex somewhat less because we prioritize our favourite units anyway.) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new units
On 5/7/2023 11:10 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Am 04.05.23 um 10:01 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: Hi, We now officially have three new units. These were officially introducd at the 2023 BachoTeX meeting in a presentation where the chair of the four person strong team also did the final live callibration (using the edithorial callibration instrument made for that purpose). An upcoming article in TB will explain the details of the process and also a careful mathematical annalysis of how we reached the right value with a high precission. The actual implementation is the most boring part. Hi Hans, can I have the article also for CGJ, please? I didn’t understand all details, and I guess some spelling errors are intentional – was there a Calli? Does “precission” refer to anything? And what’s the abbreviation for Theodores? the theodore is only used in reporting an overflow so no real unit (just like feet is no unit in tex but used in the message) an article is chicken-egg ... it goes into the tugboat (already checked and prepared, read peer reviewed) but it is no big deal if the ctx journal takes it afterwards (plenty of time) and then the cg members are also informed (it will go in the distribution anyway but normally i wait till after publication) concerning precission, indeed there was a real beautiful handcrafted measuring device but as with much research one could sort of predict the median outcome esp after the main sample was made beforehand by carefully checking some resources; it was nice to see how most attendents properties fit the bill (Alan will be pleased to know that actually the Thumb was the starting point which happens to be close to an inch and the oid Dutch measure is Duim.) Hans ps. For those unfamiliar with the tex community, when we talk 'research' and such, keep in mind that most tex related research is kind of bogus, wishful thinking, sounding serious, etc. and that most 'projects' are just 'activities by enthousiatic users' In the end it's all about esthetics which is more about feeling and intuition and pretty much driven by user demsnds. In a similar fashion most 'tex conferences' are more user meetings. ps. So 'I didn’t understand all details' is quite okay because the idea was to put you on the wrong foot (or theodore). It helps when you knwo the people involved, does it? - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new units
On 5/7/2023 2:10 AM, skyhorse--- via ntg-context wrote: Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: .. Oh, so a bug, I'll fix the message. Not really a unit but then, feet is also not one. That is incorrect. Feet is an establish and proper unit of measurement, which consists of 12 inches. It is used by, at least, several hundred million people. It can be said that the ability to grok and manipulate fractions has many benefits, which the metric system sorely lacks. Sure, but it's not a unit in tex like 10ft so reporting 19 feet looks a bit odd for the (majority) texusers who dont'use feet. (we have mm and cm but not in and ft). I suppose yards could also have been used but probably points out more prominently the limitation. https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voet_(lengtemaat) An amsterdam voet being somewhat smaller actually would have made 20 which is a nicer number and also fits the base 20 inuit system discussed a few weeks ago. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new units
On 5/7/2023 4:43 AM, Michael Urban via ntg-context wrote: If you are going to introduce new units, you should at least include the Potrzebie, invented by teenager Donald Knuth and published in the humor magazine Mad Magazine #33. The system is based on the thickness of Mad Magazine #26, equal to 2.2633484517438173216473 mm. See the Wikipedia entry for 'potrzebie' for more information, or search for suitable images. Honestly, I don't know how Knuth resisted putting this in plain TeX. Plain TeX is a format so ther it would be easy, just define \newdimen\potrzebie \potrzebie = 422042sp but for a real unit you need to adapt the original engine and that will not happen because it's in bug fix only mode. Anyway, you can try it in lmtx: \startTEXpage[offset=1dk] \number\dimexpr1dk \stopTEXpage As introduced in: https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb42-3/tb132hagen-dk.pdf Like the ts is makes a nice offset. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new units
On 5/6/2023 11:53 PM, Arthur Rosendahl via ntg-context wrote: On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 10:01:25AM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: These units can be used in the current upload. In a next upload the "19 feet max" message that tex issues when reaching a maximum will be adapted to a more realistic variant. (Actually, because tex has no foot unit, we could as well replace that with a more impressive little feet unit but we forgot to measure the smallest foot present which i guess was about 3 es so the limit is then some 75 bare theodores.) I measured the theodore at 13cm, so that puts the limit at about 45 theodores, actually. Oh, so a bug, I'll fix the message. Not really a unit but then, feet is also not one. \newdimension\theodore \theodore=5es You can also abuse the eu unit: \eufactor50 % times ts x\hskip1eu x Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] upload
On 5/6/2023 3:33 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Am 06.05.23 um 09:46 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: On 5/5/2023 11:21 PM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: Would it make sense to add a similar script to install context modules from modules.contextgarden.net? I can look into that but then I need to slightly adapt it with a command line argument (no big deal, i just need rain outside and/or new cd's). Not sure yet how to name the script. Why not install-module(s), or just install? mtxrun --script install --modules=filter,simpleslides mtxrun --script install-modules --list=filter,simpleslides i actually decided on the second one but not finished yet Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new units
On 5/6/2023 6:45 PM, Alan Braslau wrote:
The whole point of the so-called "imperial" units is to be based on
fractions, not decimal. May I suggest that we use \sqrt2 as the basis
of our fractions, so as to push the limits of calculation and precision
(that are handled well in the new lmtx engine).
Also, on this day of coronation, post-Brexit, I believe that the ConTeXt
community should get behind the promotion of obscure Imperial units,
relegating the metric system to scientists who have no choice but to
adhere to the Système International.
Alan (who could not participate in the discussions of the committee of
four)
Well, the Polish oversight seemed to a agree and the team was awarded by
arthur who donated cute "Let's make TeX little again" hats, but more
about that later. The unit was applied by the main presenter when the
big cake got cut into pieces measuring 4es ^ 2 which i admit is a bit
less than 4in ^2.
But, if you're really into old units we can measure your feet and
replace "max 19 feet" message by "max 20 braslaus".
Actually you can do a sqrt:
\starttext
\the\floatexpr\pfsqrt 2\relax
\the\pfsqrt 2\relax
\scratchdimen\floatexpr\pfsqrt 2\relax
\the\scratchdimen
\scratchdimen\pfsqrt 2\relax
\the\scratchdimen
\stoptext
but you already knew that.
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] upload
On 5/5/2023 11:21 PM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: Would it make sense to add a similar script to install context modules from modules.contextgarden.net? I can look into that but then I need to slightly adapt it with a command line argument (no big deal, i just need rain outside and/or new cd's). Not sure yet how to name the script. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] upload
Hi, I uploaded a version that provides mtxrun --script install-tikz that when run in the tex root (.../tex) will fetch some tikz stuff from ctan and puts is in texmf-modules. After installing it wipes the files that make no sense (or can interfere or might be harmful) but I didn't check that extensively. Finally it remakes the file dastabase. I don't know if more needs to be installed. It assumes curl to be present (as library or binary). It's a rather stupid script but (I guess) good enough for what it is supposed to do. I can add more (like other modules) in which case it will be renamed. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] tikz + lmtx
On 5/4/2023 11:12 PM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: Does that mean that these will be now included as part of the lmtx install? no, i'm not going to bloat that one, but there will be a mtxrun --script install-tikz Not being a tikz user I have no preferences but we can add some test files to the test suite if needed. It may be good to add some basic files (e.g., the ones that I sent to you off-list) so that we may know if these packages break again. yes, i already added thse Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] tikz + lmtx
On 4/28/2023 6:08 AM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: Hi all, For a few months now, all features of tikz have not been working with LMTX. After help from Hans and a bit of trial and error, I think that figured out what was going wrong with the catcodes in m-tikz: Since the texcatcodes are different from what tikz expects, the catcodes have to be set inside \starttikzpicture (in addition to before the loading of tikz files, which was already being done). I am attaching the working m-tikz.mkxl file. I have tested this on my course notes, which make extensive use of simple tikz block diagrams and pgfplots graphs. Perhaps others who were having issues with tikz could test if this fixes everything and, if so, we can add this to the distribution. So, what is needed from tikz? "graphics/pgf/base/pgf.tds.zip", "graphics/pgf/contrib/pgfplots.tds.zip", "graphics/pgf/contrib/circuitikz.tds.zip", Is there more that should be installed as reasonable basic set? I made a script that does fetch/installs it (and also wipes latex / plain /useless stuff afterwards including some shell etc scripts as we don't want those either - security risk etc -). Not being a tikz user I have no preferences but we can add some test files to the test suite if needed. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] OBSD 7.3 binary locally compiled… what next?
On 5/4/2023 12:11 PM, damien thiriet via ntg-context wrote: Hi, I upgraded today my OBSD to 7.3 and… realized too late that texlive binaries were on the compile farm, but not the lmtx ones. That was the opportunity to learn self-install, though. I compiled the binary, but I am stuck with the next step What I did: - rm -rf /usr/local/context/* (now I suspect I should have first updated my 7.2 installation and then, after upgrading to 7.3, compiled the binaries…) - download https://www.pragma-ade.nl/context/latest/cont-tmf.zip - unpacked it into /usr/local/context (unzip cont-tmf.zip -d /usr/local/context/) - cd /usr/local/context/source/luametatex - ./build.sh --native Compilation succeeded, looks like the binary lies in /usr/local/context/source/luametatex/build/native/luametatex What's the next step? you should make tex/texmf-openbsd7.3-amd64 and put 5 files there: luametatex context -> luametatex mtxrun -> luametatex mtxrun.lua context.lua you can take the lua files from tex/texmf-openbsd7.2-amd64 or you can just rename the 7.2 path to 7.3 and move luametatex there (of course you then also need to adapt your path to the new situation) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Units for volts and Ohms
On 5/2/2023 8:09 AM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:
Hi,
As I was testing circuitikz, I realized that the following don't work:
\unit{1V}
\unit{100 kΩ}
In phys-dim.lmt, we need to change line 467:
v = "volt",
to
V = "volt",
and perhaps add (not sure if lua allows utf variable names)
Ω = "ohm",
Ha, that's easy to test, right? So I won't answer this one.
(instead you can ["Ω"] = "ohm")
Hans
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[NTG-context] new units
Hi, We now officially have three new units. These were officially introducd at the 2023 BachoTeX meeting in a presentation where the chair of the four person strong team also did the final live callibration (using the edithorial callibration instrument made for that purpose). An upcoming article in TB will explain the details of the process and also a careful mathematical annalysis of how we reached the right value with a high precission. The actual implementation is the most boring part. \starttext \startTEXpage[offset=1ts] Hello World! \the\dimexpr 1ts \the\dimexpr 1es \the\dimexpr 1eu \eufactor20 \the\dimexpr 1eu \stopTEXpage \stoptext The es (Edith) unit replaces the inch, and the ts (Tove) is one tenths of than (just like we have cm and mm). The eu (European Unit) is an adaptive one that defaults to 10 ts == 1es and can be multiplied by setting the \eufactor (default 10) which makes it possible to define layouts that easilly scale to different output media (important for the mobile phone / table generation). This means that MWE that use inches will likely no longer be considered valid and probably will be dealt with slower (or just ignored). These units can be used in the current upload. In a next upload the "19 feet max" message that tex issues when reaching a maximum will be adapted to a more realistic variant. (Actually, because tex has no foot unit, we could as well replace that with a more impressive little feet unit but we forgot to measure the smallest foot present which i guess was about 3 es so the limit is then some 75 bare theodores.) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] cannot generate format file with current latest
On 4/30/2023 3:19 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
Dear list,
I have just updated to current latest (2023.04.27 17:04).
I always delete cache with "mtxrun --generate" after an update.
When I try to create the format file with "context --make --all", I get
the following error message:
lua error > lua error on line 645 in file context.mkxl:
token call, execute: ...ext/base/mkxl/cldf-pos.lmt:18: attempt to index
a nil value (global 'posit') stack traceback:
you're running the wrong binary
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[NTG-context] upload
Hi, I uploaded the last of series 2.10.07 as prelude for bachotex. That one also can do this: \newfloat \MyFloat \MyFloat \pfsin \floatexpr 1.25 * \pfpi \relax \the\MyFloat \the \pfsin \floatexpr 1.25 * \pfpi \relax The syntax is like \numexpr and \dimexpr but the \pfsin (and other functions) are (as usual with these things) not real primitives but (\untraced) luacalls. Of course it is all still somewhat experimental but likely to stay ... Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] update
On 4/27/2023 7:11 AM, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote: Hi Lynx, Aditya, New to conTeXt, have not performed a specific update prior to this. My conTeXt installation is part of TeXlive-2023 (under Linux OS). Will the updates to ConTeXt be handled by tlmgr ? No. Usually, texlive updates context once a year. This is correct in general, but this specific update *will* end up in TL2023 due to the engine changes that Hans mentioned. It's not in TL yet, but we're actively working on it, so it should show up within a week or so (hopefully). Correction: Luigi and I are still discussing how to make it work because there is some init order issue and we want to be sure that context (and its scripts) keep working. It would be sort of weird if context (where luatex originates) would stop working as expected. Keep in mind that luatex is also a lua engine. and I assume that the texlive team also has some tests to perform (apart from getting all platforms updated which for some is more work, like apple signing). The issue (disabling socket by default) is not that pressing as socket has been with us for right fromn the start) and security wise there are plenty ways tex can mess up your system if someone wants. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] update
On 4/27/2023 1:54 AM, Jairo A. del Rio via ntg-context wrote: Hi, Hans. The following happens with the last update: loading > ConTeXt Node Macros / Page Building resolvers > lua > unknown file 'node-pag.lua' error loading file: node-pag.lua (aborting) Indeed, the file is missing in the distribution (there's only node-pag.mkxl). Regards fixed - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] update
On 4/27/2023 2:50 AM, lynx--- via ntg-context wrote: Re: performing update(s) New to conTeXt, have not performed a specific update prior to this. My conTeXt installation is part of TeXlive-2023 (under Linux OS). Will the updates to ConTeXt be handled by tlmgr ? Basically tex live is the yearly snapshot. I actually dont' know the rules for updating texlive but there are definitely updates. But as much relates there (like engines shared between macro packages) it can be that only macros get updated and not engines (also relates to multiple platforms) so fundamental changes to luatex as engine .. hard to predict. But you can just install the lmtx installation alongside (it's small compared to tex live) and have the best of both worlds. The lmtx installation also has mkiv. It also comes with the fonts that match what we expect in context (as fonts get updated or changed). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] update
Hi,
I uploaded a new version with some new features discussed at the end of
this mail.
- A next version of luatex will break context (format making etc) but
the change is unavoidable because of other macro package demands wrt
security (context does that differently). The low level start up command
has been adapted so unless you update indepdently thinsg should work ok.
Of course this has no consequences for lmtx.
- I've done a bit of callback cleanup (like getting rid of some mkiv
luatex left-overs). It should have no effect on regular usage.
- There again a few improvements wrt math (this time dealing with
accents artifacts in some fonts). We check all the free math fonts for
potential issues and then try to fix it (read: deal with it). It's a lot
of work but we're getting there.
- A few reported buglets have been fixed.
- The biggest addition is however a new number model. In metapost one
can now use 'posit' (positfun instance) as number mode which will use
(currently 32 bit but at some point 64 bit) posit unums. It's also bit
of a playground because 32 bit posits are not more accurate than 64 bit
doubles. It anyhow exposed some potential issues that we'll look into.
- There's also a (again currently 32 bit) posit library at the Lua end
as playground.
- However, 32 bit posits come in handy at the tex end because they pack
better accuracy in 32 bits than floats and it makes it possible to have
native floats, so we have:
\newfloat (uses \floatdef, register like \dimendef is used in \newdimen)
\newposit (uses \positdef, like \dimensiondef etc)
\floatexpr (like \numexpr)
\iffloat (like \ifnum) (also \ifabsfloat and i'll add the others too)
Actually it adds an extra range of registers so it bumps memory usage a
bit. I'm considering lowering the number of registers (currently 64K per
category) because after all, if 64K is not enough then we can as well
stick to 32K or 16K (for some even less). There's always Lua for
unlimited storage of quantities.
So,
\newfloat\fooA
\scratchdimen=123.456pt\relax[\type{dim:}
\the\scratchdimen==123.456pt]\par
\fooA=123.456\relax [\type{pos:} \the\fooA
==123.456] \par
\fooA=\scratchdimen\relax[\type{pos:} \the\fooA
==123.456] \par
\scratchdimen=\fooA\relax[\type{dim:}
\the\scratchdimen==123.456pt]\par
\scratchdimen\dimexpr\fooA+10pt\relax[\type{dim:}
\the\scratchdimen==133.456pt]\par
produces
[dim: 123.456pt==123.456pt]
[pos: 123.45600128173828==123.456]
[pos: 123.45599365234375==123.456]
[dim: 123.456pt==123.456pt]
[dim: 133.456pt==133.456pt]
As you can see dimens will get mapped onto floats not as integers
(scaled points) but in pt units. Counts stay numbers. I need to handle
glue too (not yet done).
In the future I might use this for fractions but there might be some
rough ends so for now it's experimental.
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] current Unicode blocks
On 4/22/2023 5:49 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
This is probably for Hans:
The list of Unicode blocks in char-ini.lua is not complete, compared
with ftp://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/Blocks.txt
(I was looking for Kaktovik numerals, of course ;))
hm, here i have
["kaktoviknumerals"]= { first =
0x1D2C0, last = 0x1D2DF, description = "Kaktovik Numerals" },
I’d offer to make an updated list, but maybe you already have a script
for that?
yes, (of course) i have a script that i run when there is an update
which then tells me what to add to the tables (not that much work,
mostly emoiji and soem rare scripts nowadays)
maybe nice for a demo at the ctx meeting (generate new files, visually
diff them so get the picture and then merge)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Table of contents not appearing.
On 4/21/2023 5:05 PM, Fabrice Couvreur via ntg-context wrote: It's chapter_5 that's the problem, but how do you know what's causing the table of contents not to appear ? depends on the error : the toc comes from the tuc file so if that one is not made ... - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Table of contents not appearing.
On 4/20/2023 6:59 PM, Fabrice Couvreur via ntg-context wrote:
Hi,
I don't see why the table of contents does not appear. On the other
hand, the 12 chapters are present.
\startproduct[terminale-manual]
\startfrontmatter
\starttitle[title=Table des matières]
\placelist
[chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection]
[criterium=all,
interaction=all,
alternative=c]
\stoptitle
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
\chapter{xxx}
\stopbodymatter
\stopproduct
shows a table of contents so it must be something in your components
Fabrice
\startproduct[terminale-manual]
\project[terminale-environment]
\startfrontmatter
\setuppagenumbering
[location=]
\definefont
[ChapterTextStyle]
[SansBold*default sa 2.2]
\setuphead
[title]
[style=ChapterTextStyle,
align=flushright]
\setuplist
[chapter]
[style=bold,
alternative=b,
width=1em]
\setuplist
[section]
[margin=1em,
width=1.75em]
\setuplist
[subsection]
[margin=2.75em,
width=2.25em,
distance=\spaceamount]
\starttitle[title=Table des matières]
\placelist
[chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection]
[criterium=all,
interaction=all,
alternative=c]
\stoptitle
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
\component[chapitre_1]
\component[chapitre_2]
\component[chapitre_3]
\component[chapitre_4]
\component[chapitre_5]
\component[chapitre_6]
\component[chapitre_7]
\component[chapitre_8]
\component[chapitre_9]
\component[chapitre_10]
\component[chapitre_11]
\component[chapitre_12]
\stopbodymatter
\stopproduct
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Re: [NTG-context] Kaktovik numerals
On 4/19/2023 10:45 PM, Willi Egger via ntg-context wrote:
Hello Gavin,
thank you so much for your input. — Indeed you are right. Please find attached
the corrected version.
Willi
On 19 Apr 2023, at 20:58, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Willi,
What fun! I think I found a couple math items to correct.
1) The second line of the tables at the top of page 2 should be:
1000' 100, 10, 1; 8000, 400, 20, 1
2) For the year conversion: 2023 = 5x20^2 + 1x20 + 3. (Your 0 should be my 1).
This will give a three digit Kaktovik numeral. You have 4 digit Kaktovik
numerals for 2023, with both a 0 and a 1.
je kunt direct dat nummer converteren maar blijkbaar gaf ik de verkeerde
volgorde uit:
\useMPlibrary[kaktovik] % de officiele manier
\definefontfeature
[default]
[default]
[metapost=kaktovik]
\setupbodyfont[dejavu]
\starttext
2023 \kaktoviknumerals{5}\kaktoviknumerals{1}\kaktoviknumerals{3}
\kaktoviknumerals{2023} % deze split dus voor je, order fixed
\stoptext
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%D \module
%D [ file=meta-imp-kaktovik,
%Dversion=2023.04.18,
%D title=\METAPOST\ Graphics,
%D subtitle=Kaktovik Numbers,
%D author=Hans Hagen,
%D date=\currentdate,
%D copyright={PRAGMA ADE \& \CONTEXT\ Development Team}]
%C
%C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
%C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
%C details.
%D Just a quick hack for Hraban (after a post on the mailing list).
\startMPcalculation{simplefun}
path kaktovik_glyphs[] ;
def InitializeKaktovik =
save p, d, u ;
pair p[] ; numeric d ; d := .1 ; numeric u ; u := .15 ;
% d := getparameterdefault "mpsfont" "d" .10 ;
% u := getparameterdefault "mpsfont" "u" .15 ;
p[0] := (0,1) ;
p[1] := (1,0) ;
p[2] := (2,1 - d) ;
p[3] := (3,0) ;
p[4] := (4,1 - 2d) ;
p[5] := (4,1 + u) ;
p[6] := (0,1 + 2u) ;
p[7] := (4,1 + 4u) ;
kaktovik_glyphs[0] := (1,1) { right } .. { left } (2,1/2) { left } ..
{ right } (3,1);
for i= 1 upto 4 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[0] for j=1 upto i : -- p[j] endfor ;
endfor ;
kaktovik_glyphs[ 5] := p[5] -- p[0] ;for i= 6 upto 9 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[5] -- kaktovik_glyphs[i-5] ; endfor ;
kaktovik_glyphs[10] := p[6] -- kaktovik_glyphs[ 5] ; for i=11 upto 14 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[6] -- kaktovik_glyphs[i-5] ; endfor ;
kaktovik_glyphs[15] := p[7] -- kaktovik_glyphs[10] ; for i=16 upto 19 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[7] -- kaktovik_glyphs[i-5] ; endfor ;
enddef ;
vardef Kaktovik(expr i) =
draw image (
draw kaktovik_glyphs[i]
xscaled (10/20 -1/20)
yscaled (25/20 -2/20)
withpen (pencircle xscaled 1/20 yscaled 5/20) rotated -(2*20)
% withpen (pencircle xscaled 1/40 yscaled 5/40) rotated -(2*20)
% withpen (pencircle xscaled 2.5/40 yscaled 5/40) rotated -(2*20)
;
) shifted (2/20,2/20)
enddef ;
lmt_registerglyphs [
name = "kaktovik",
units= 2,
usecolor = true,
width= 2,
height = 2,
depth= 0,
preamble = "InitializeKaktovik"
] ;
for i=0 upto 19 :
lmt_registerglyph [
category = "kaktovik",
unicode = 119488 + i, % "0x1D2C0"
code = "Kaktovik(" & decimal i & ")"
] ;
endfor ;
\stopMPcalculation
\startluacode
interfaces.implement {
name = "kaktoviknumerals",
arguments = "integer",
actions = function(n)
local digits = { }
local count = 1
while true do
digits[count] = utf.char(0x1D2C0 + (n % 20))
n = n // 20
if n == 0 then
break;
end
count = count + 1
end
table.reverse(digits)
context("%t",digits)
end
}
\stopluacode
\unprotect
\permanent\def\kaktoviknumerals#1{\clf_kaktoviknumerals\numexpr#1\relax}
\defineconversion [kaktoviknumerals] [\kaktoviknumerals]
\defineconversion [K][\kaktoviknumerals]
\definefontfeature
[kaktovik]
[metapost=kaktovik]
\protect
\continueifinputfile{meta-imp-kaktovik.mkxl}
\definefontfeature
[default]
[default]
[metapost=kaktovik]
% [metapost={category=kaktovik,u
Re: [NTG-context] Google's Roboto Flex font typescript and goodies definition.
On 4/18/2023 3:52 PM, Pawel Urbanski via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Hans,
I will write what I want to acomplish. While it is definitely thrivial,
I'm either missing something obvious or more experienced users suffer
from the curse of knowledge.
I want ot use Roboto Flex for my chapter and section heads with Garamond
Premier for the body contents.
I followed the Context wiki example and consistant examples from the web.
Here is my code:
\usemodule[fonts-variable]
\definefontfamily[roboto-flex][ss][rotoboflex]
% robotoflex.ttf is the recognized font file name.
\setuphead[chapter]
[style={\switchtobodyfont[roboto-flex,20pt]\ss}]
While the Garamond is embedded and text is styled, the chapter tible is
typeset with Garamond not Roboto.
Any hints or feed back will be very appriciated.
\usetypescriptfile[ebgaramond]
\starttypescript [sans] [robotoflex]
\setups[font:fallback:sans]
\definefontsynonym [Sans] [name:robotoflexregular]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic][name:robotoflexregularitalic]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold] [name:robotoflexregularbold]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic][name:robotoflexregularbolditalic]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[robocop]
\definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [ebgaramond]
[default]
\definetypeface [\typescriptone] [ss] [sans] [robotoflex]
[default]
\definetypeface [\typescriptone] [tt] [mono] [dejavu]
[default] [rscale=0.8]
\definetypeface [\typescriptone] [mm] [math] [ebgaramond] [default]
\stoptypescript
\setupbodyfont[robocop]
\setuphead[chapter][style=\ssbfd]
\starttext
\startchapter[title=Whatever]
\input tufte
\stopchapter
\page
\usemodule[fonts-variable]
\showfontvariations[font=file:robotoflex.ttf]
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] \setupitemize[indentnext=auto] broken?
On 4/18/2023 3:48 PM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
On 4/17/2023 7:06 AM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023, Jim via ntg-context wrote:
%
\setupindenting[medium,yes]
\setupitemize[indentnext=auto]
\startitemize
\item One
\stopitemize
This paragraph should be indented - due to the blank line after
\type{\stopitemize}.
\startitemize
\item Two
\stopitemize
This paragraph should not be indented.
%
Works in mkiv but appears to be a bug in lmtx. I haven't debugged what is
going wrong.
`indentnext=auto` doesn't appear to work for any environment.
can you test with this patch
This works on with the 3-4 test examples that I had but ...
\permanent\protected\protected\def\spac_indentation_check_next_indentation
^
Is that a typo (double \protected)? I tested with a single \protected and that
also works.
it's a typo .. maybe i should add (for completeness)
\protected\unprotected\protected
(\permanent only kicks in when you are on overload protection mode,
which I'm always in here)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Google's Roboto Flex font typescript and goodies definition.
On 4/18/2023 12:37 PM, Pawel Urbanski via ntg-context wrote: Dear Everyone, Following my attempts to create and learn Context's ways to manage fonts, I would like to ask about the following: I've created the structure for fonts in texmf-local folder and after running scripts they are listed. The output for Roboto Flex is as follows: identifier familyname fontname filename subfont instances robotoflex robotoflex robotoflexregular robotoflex.ttf thin extralight light regular medium semibold bold extrabold black extrablack thinitalic extralightitalic lightitalic italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic extrabolditalic blackitalic extrablackitalic What is the proper way to use family name or font name to create a typescript file and a goodies file to take advantage of optical sizes. Google's Roboto Flex is an upgraded Roboto as a variable font. I know that this topic has been discussed many times and I've read the fonts manual but still have these questions. Most of the examples are rather ready solutions or templates but not always cover ways how to figure out values from scratch and how they correspond. all these naames and combining them into 'regular-bold' pairs is pretty much a visual thing as these names are not used consistently; when you just use four fonts, a simple few line tyopescript will do (no need to make an imp file, just put it in your style) (variable fonts is not really improving this) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Kaktovik numerals
On 4/18/2023 10:57 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
I just came across this thread about the base-20 system of the Inuit
people and the numerals invented for it in the 1990s:
https://mathstodon.xyz/@johncarlosbaez/110215432175491555
This makes simple calculations just beautiful.
interesting ... quick hack attached
Hans
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meta-imp-kaktovik.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
%D \module
%D [ file=meta-imp-kaktovik,
%Dversion=2023.04.18,
%D title=\METAPOST\ Graphics,
%D subtitle=Kaktovik Numbers,
%D author=Hans Hagen,
%D date=\currentdate,
%D copyright={PRAGMA ADE \& \CONTEXT\ Development Team}]
%C
%C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
%C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
%C details.
%D Just a quick hack for Hraban (after a post on the mailing list).
\startMPcalculation{simplefun}
path kaktovik_glyphs[] ;
def InitializeKaktovik =
save p, d, u ;
pair p[] ; numeric d ; d := .1 ; numeric u ; u := .15 ;
% d := getparameterdefault "mpsfont" "d" .10 ;
% u := getparameterdefault "mpsfont" "u" .15 ;
p[0] := (0,1) ;
p[1] := (1,0) ;
p[2] := (2,1 - d) ;
p[3] := (3,0) ;
p[4] := (4,1 - 2d) ;
p[5] := (4,1 + u) ;
p[6] := (0,1 + 2u) ;
p[7] := (4,1 + 4u) ;
kaktovik_glyphs[0] := (1,1) { right } .. { left } (2,1/2) { left } ..
{ right } (3,1);
for i= 1 upto 4 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[0] for j=1 upto i : -- p[j] endfor ;
endfor ;
kaktovik_glyphs[ 5] := p[5] -- p[0] ;for i= 6 upto 9 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[5] -- kaktovik_glyphs[i-5] ; endfor ;
kaktovik_glyphs[10] := p[6] -- kaktovik_glyphs[ 5] ; for i=11 upto 14 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[6] -- kaktovik_glyphs[i-5] ; endfor ;
kaktovik_glyphs[15] := p[7] -- kaktovik_glyphs[10] ; for i=16 upto 19 :
kaktovik_glyphs[i] := p[7] -- kaktovik_glyphs[i-5] ; endfor ;
enddef ;
vardef Kaktovik(expr i) =
draw image (
draw kaktovik_glyphs[i]
xscaled (10/20 -1/20)
yscaled (25/20 -2/20)
withpen (pencircle xscaled 1/20 yscaled 5/20) rotated -(2*20)
% withpen (pencircle xscaled 1/40 yscaled 5/40) rotated -(2*20)
% withpen (pencircle xscaled 2.5/40 yscaled 5/40) rotated -(2*20)
;
) shifted (2/20,2/20)
enddef ;
lmt_registerglyphs [
name = "kaktovik",
units= 2,
usecolor = true,
width= 2,
height = 2,
depth= 0,
preamble = "InitializeKaktovik"
] ;
for i=0 upto 19 :
lmt_registerglyph [
category = "kaktovik",
unicode = 119488 + i, % "0x1D2C0"
code = "Kaktovik(" & decimal i & ")"
] ;
endfor ;
\stopMPcalculation
\startluacode
interfaces.implement {
name = "kaktoviknumerals",
arguments = "integer",
actions = function(n)
local digits = { }
local count = 1
while true do
digits[count] = utf.char(0x1D2C0 + (n % 20))
n = n // 20
if n == 0 then
break;
end
count = count + 1
end
context("%t",digits)
end
}
\stopluacode
\unprotect
\permanent\def\kaktoviknumerals#1{\clf_kaktoviknumerals\numexpr#1\relax}
\defineconversion [kaktoviknumerals] [\kaktoviknumerals]
\defineconversion [K][\kaktoviknumerals]
\definefontfeature
[kaktovik]
[metapost=kaktovik]
\protect
\continueifinputfile{meta-imp-kaktovik.mkxl}
\definefontfeature
[default]
[default]
[metapost=kaktovik]
% [metapost={category=kaktovik,u=.25,d=.20,x=}]
\setupbodyfont[dejavu]
% \nopdfcompression
\startTEXpage[offset=1ts,width=3es]
\start
\showglyphs
KAKTOVIK
\dostepwiserecurse{0}{19}{1}{\kaktoviknumerals{#1}\space }
\stop
kaktovik \start
\red\glyphxscale 700
\dostepwiserecurse{0}{19}{1}{\kaktoviknumerals{#1}\space }
\stop
\startitemize[packed,K][color=orange,stopper=]
\startitem first \stopitem
\startitem second \stopitem
\startitem third \stopitem
\stopitemize
KAKTOVIK \start
\red \kaktoviknumerals{2023} --
\green\kaktoviknumerals{4}--
\blue \kaktovikn
Re: [NTG-context] \setupitemize[indentnext=auto] broken?
On 4/17/2023 7:06 AM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023, Jim via ntg-context wrote:
%
\setupindenting[medium,yes]
\setupitemize[indentnext=auto]
\startitemize
\item One
\stopitemize
This paragraph should be indented - due to the blank line after
\type{\stopitemize}.
\startitemize
\item Two
\stopitemize
This paragraph should not be indented.
%
Works in mkiv but appears to be a bug in lmtx. I haven't debugged what is going
wrong.
`indentnext=auto` doesn't appear to work for any environment.
can you test with this patch
\permanent\protected\protected\def\spac_indentation_check_next_indentation
{\global\enforced\let\dorechecknextindentation\relax
\begingroup
\autoparagraphmode\zerocount
\doifelsenextchar\par\endgroup{\endgroup\spac_indentation_variant_no}} %
messy check as next is seldom \par
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Re: [NTG-context] Software upgrade for ntg and contextgarden server 6 April
On 4/16/2023 3:54 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: It's just an interface much more simpler than what the git archive backup interface currently in use presumably undergoes. Git is sort of big as-is and that's not even counting all its remote helpers by which all those places depend on (gitlab, github, bitbucket), which makes it even bigger. I use the windows github interface. Mojca showed me some alternatives but trhat's for power users, Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Software upgrade for ntg and contextgarden server 6 April
On 4/15/2023 3:23 AM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: thank you Taco, Hans, and Aditya, Mikael, et Hans, I was just curious about your git strategy and wanted to ask you about something. I have no strategy. I see it as just an offline repository and archive. The luametatex repos sort of resembles what I have on my machine but even then I always use intermediate 'compare before merge' steps that predate git. Git (or svn) is nice for seeing changes but I admit that I never roll-back using git. When I have to integrate something in e.g. luametatex that comes from git I always diff (winmerge) and "manually merge". So much for stragety: not that fancy. The context updates are assembled from a completely different dev structure (think also of temporary files, runtime files for manuals etc that don't belong in something git) and turning that modus operandi into something git would make my way of doing things pretty inefficient, so unless very little changes etc happen i won't change that. All the git magic is maintained by Mojca and occassionally we discuss how to move on (we have some pending install-from-git stuff but that might take a while before being promoted). I'm not really interested in al the additional stuff like chats, pull requests, keeping track of comments in git, all these (for me useless) statistics. I don't want to end up in an endless 'check this or that' noose, so for me email and communicating (could be visual) with some involved does it well; more fun too. For some other projects git(hub|lab) is a communication method, basically an on-line storage. Did you guys ever consider having a cgit interface and hosting it. A bunch of projects have done it heck. Even git, which is where everything solely depends on in the end, is running it. https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/git/git.git/ https://git.zx2c4.com/cgit/about/ There is not much to gain with adding yet another interface to what we have now. It only works if one or more people commit (no git pun intended) themselves long-term to it which relates to ie beging used. (Keep in mind that it's all volunteer work.) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Software upgrade for ntg and contextgarden server 6 April
On 4/14/2023 3:50 PM, mf via ntg-context wrote: Hello, the github repo at https://github.com/contextgarden/context-mirror is not updated since March 20th. I don't know whether it's related to the server update, but maybe you know. I fetch from the origin, https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror.git which seems up to date; i suppose github gets it from there but occasionally it lags behind; it's sort of the original git archive and our backup plan. https://github.com/contextgarden/context Should be okay, Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using project-local fonts
On 4/13/2023 10:11 PM, Kalouguine Andre via ntg-context wrote: On 13.04.2023 21:22, Rik Kabel via ntg-context wrote: EB Garamond is hopelessly broken with respect to hlig and dlig, and has been for quite a while. I reported the problem (https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20) over five years ago, and the maintainer (if there is one) has done nothing. See also #4 in that issues list (https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/4). There are a couple of forks, but there is no established reference implementation that I can see. The Google Fonts implementation is similarly challenged, perhaps worse. Oh, I hadn't realized. I had read somewhere that the TeXlive version was simply older than the `Specimen.pdf` document and had some bugs. I hadn't realized that it wasn't fixed yet. This is unfortunate! Thanks for the information, you saved me from wasting too much time on that. the lmtx installation comes with some fonts that we keep from the garden related git repository so we have control over updates; we can do somethign similar with popular fonts that we like to be frozen in which case we can tweak them runtime (when we update we can then reconsider tweaks) sometimes it's easier to just accept that there are bugs and fix them runtime Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using project-local fonts
On 4/13/2023 10:11 PM, Kalouguine Andre via ntg-context wrote: On 13.04.2023 21:22, Rik Kabel via ntg-context wrote: EB Garamond is hopelessly broken with respect to hlig and dlig, and has been for quite a while. I reported the problem (https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20) over five years ago, and the maintainer (if there is one) has done nothing. See also #4 in that issues list (https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/4). There are a couple of forks, but there is no established reference implementation that I can see. The Google Fonts implementation is similarly challenged, perhaps worse. Oh, I hadn't realized. I had read somewhere that the TeXlive version was simply older than the `Specimen.pdf` document and had some bugs. I hadn't realized that it wasn't fixed yet. This is unfortunate! Thanks for the information, you saved me from wasting too much time on that. if you know what the bugs are you can make a pseudo feature that fixes it (there are examples in the test suite) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using project-local fonts
On 4/13/2023 5:28 PM, Kalouguine Andre via ntg-context wrote: Hi, i'm not familiar with that approach so can't see what interferes The most important change is that I can't update it and I can't put stuff in the system directory nor the user one. So I only have access to the project folder, it has to be self-contained. \definefontfamily [ebgaramond] [serif] [ebgaramond] [features=eb-garamond-normal] Apologies, my fault, I forgot a part of my email. I don't want the c-t and s-t ligatures (supposed to be in `hlig`). But I do want the T-h ligature which is supposed to be in `dlig`. So as far as I understand, TeXlive comes with an old version of EB Garamond in which all of them are in `dlig`. Hence my question about self-contained projects with fonts. You can put the font in the local directory but i have no clue how that works with your setup because in the end the font cache is used and does a user have a local one? YOu can maybe rename the font,. put it in the work directory and make a typescript that refers to that one. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using project-local fonts
On 4/13/2023 2:06 PM, Kalouguine Andre via ntg-context wrote: Hi, I'm writing a small report using EB Garamond as the main font. I am sometimes using Overleaf (which has a ConTeXt distribution that is accessible using a latexmkrc file). i'm not familiar with that approach so can't see what interferes The problem is, the EB Garamond version that is included seems to have a bug: the c-t and s-t ligatures (and maybe others) are triggered when enabling `dlig` even though they are supposed to be in the `hlig` feature. I also would like to include the Hack font that isn't in the distribution. So, I'm looking for a way to embed the fonts into the project in a portable way instead of installing them in a system directory. Is there any way to do so ? The version of ConTeXt used is here i just put all fonts in texmf-fonts/fonts/data you can try to mix selectfont and regular typoescripts: \usetypescriptfile[ebgaramond] \definefontfamily [ebgaramond] [serif] [ebgaramond] [features=eb-garamond-normal] %definefontfamily [ebgaramond] [math] [Garamond-Math] \definefontfamily [ebgaramond] [mono] [Hack] [tf=style:mono] %definetypeface [ebgaramond] [ss] [sans] [ysabeau][default] \definetypeface [ebgaramond] [mm] [math] [ebgaramond] [default] \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,12pt] \starttext The most distinct sentence $x$. \stoptext as you probably also want proper math. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Feynman Diagrams
On 4/13/2023 4:42 AM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote: Hi Aditya, Thanks for the suggestions. I hadn’t thought to dig into the MetaPost produced when typesetting a LaTeX document. In principle, it should be easier to adapt the feynmp.mp (attached) code to make it work with LMTX. This sounds like a good summer project for me. I’ll be doing a lot of MetaPost this summer. maybe alan can make you an examples in the node module, then we can see what 'lines' are needed. The ones in fyenmp are not that sophisticates (can be made nicer) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Feynman Diagrams
On 4/12/2023 5:45 AM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote: Hi List, I’m looking for a way to include Feynman diagrams in my ConTeXt documents. I’ve used feynMF/feynMP and TikZ-feynman with LaTeX in the past, but it doesn’t look like either works directly with ConTeXt. My diagrams are pretty basic (example below). Does anyone have a ConTeXt solution they like? If not, I’ll add it to my list of summer MetaPost projects. Maybe Alan's node module can do the work, Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Reminder: regular online meet-up
On 4/12/2023 1:35 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Reminder: This is in less than 2 hours. I’m sick and can’t participate this time. Hraban we can shift it one week as I have to go mid afternoon Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Software upgrade for ntg and contextgarden server 6 April
On 4/11/2023 10:42 PM, Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context wrote: In any case, today was the last of the big software update procedures (at least for the next year or so). Thanks for doing this! Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] upload
Hi, I just uploaded an update, the areas that were touched: - math (font) improvements (with mikael, roadmap stuff, fixes, compact mode testing) - text (font) improvements (with mikael, side track of math) - experimental stuff wrt project structure (with alan, complex huge files; prelude to possible partial overhaul) - some language details like labels (with tomas & students, ongoing) - little thingies that probably no one will notice unless it's bugged Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory; ~/context/tex is not a valid TEXROOT path; no file plain.tex
On 4/11/2023 3:13 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: But where is actually luametatex under the standalone sources just in the bin path Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory; ~/context/tex is not a valid TEXROOT path; no file plain.tex
On 4/11/2023 12:00 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: and belongs to TeX Live? well, i suppose there is a non-empty copy in texlive but an empty one can go indeed Here we go! Back to point A where we were at before as alan pointed out: just install with the lmtx installer in a path separate from tex live, set the path and you're done; don't try to mix texlive with a adapted of standalone, texlive has its own context package and updates etc; keep them separated alright. That's fine. That's what I thought. So copy over the mtxrun binary on texmf-linux-64/bin to context and call it a day? as long as the five mentioned files are there (and best hand mtxrun, context and luametatex the same so use links) ... luametatex is the engine as well as stub runner (runs the luatex file in the same path with the same name and suffix lua) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory; ~/context/tex is not a valid TEXROOT path; no file plain.tex
On 4/11/2023 11:11 AM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
Hello Alan, my PATH is set to:
PATH=/home/ce/context-install/bin:/home/ce/context-install/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin:/opt/texlive/2023/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH;
export PATH
what is that first path doing there
Do we actually need to list all kpsea variable here ?? fine
doesn't hurt .. also because they can be set badly at the os level (you
really don't want to knwo when has be encountered in the 20th century)
Here are some of them, which are really irrelevant by the way, but just
adding info
$ kpsewhich --var-value TEXMFROOT
/opt/texlive/2023
$ kpsewhich --var-value TEXMFDIST
/opt/texlive/2023/texmf-dist
$ kpsewhich --var-value TEXMFLOCAL
/opt/texlive/texmf-local
Now let's take a peek inside the TeX Live infrastructure-only, shall
we? (just for additional info as TeX Live is ocnsidered one of the
many scripts out there, right? One is interested in the standalone in
the end)
LICENSE.CTAN bin install-tl.log texmf-config texmfcnf.lua
LICENSE.TL doc.htmlreadme-html.dir texmf-disttlpkg
README index.html readme-txt.dir texmf-var
README.usergroups install-tl release-texlive.txt texmf.cnf
that si texlive, not standalone
that texmfcnf.lua only holds
return {
content = {
variables = {
},
},
}
which is useless
and harmless (somethign old texlive)
so, no bueno. Not when the aim is to install a fully functional context
standalone
Now let's take a peek instide and see the binaries
afm2tfm etex kpsereadlink mfmtxrun.lua texluac
bibtex extractbb kpsestat mf-nowin pdfetex tlmgr
context fmtutil kpsewhichmft pdflatextlshell
context.lua fmtutil-sys latexmkindex pdftex updmap
dvilualatex fmtutil-user luahbtex mktexfmt pktogf updmap-sys
dviluatexgftodvi lualatex mktexlsr pktype updmap-user
dvipdfm gftopkluametatex mktexmf rungs xdvi
dvipdfmx gftypeluaotfload-tool mktexpk simpdftex xdvi-xaw
dvipdft inimf luatex mktextfm tex xdvipdfmx
dvipsinitexmakeindexmptopdf texhash
ebb kpseaccessman mtxruntexlua
Do you see that context and context.lua out there, right? That's
only after running tlmgr and installing it, so no bueno, because in
the meantime there's no texmfcnf.lua around
comes from the tex live base package ... harmless, just takes bytes
(only luatex, luametatex, context, mtxrun, context.lua and mtxrun.lua
matter)
Then again, remember in the current state I actually don't have
texmfcnf.lua for the simple reason that first-setup.sh never provided
it, correct?
aditya pointer that out (and it's one of the files that one doesn't want
to be overwritten anyway)
Here we go! Back to point A where we were at before
as alan pointed out: just install with the lmtx installer in a path
separate from tex live, set the path and you're done; don't try to mix
texlive with a adapted of standalone, texlive has its own context
package and updates etc; keep them separated
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] /usr/bin/env texlua no such file or directory; ~/context/tex is not a valid TEXROOT path; no file plain.tex
lications). dunno, never meet computer scientists (only met DEK) -- FORTRAN is not a flower but a weed -- it is hardy, occasionally blooms, and grows in every computer. -- A.J. Perlis could be, but that's true for all computer relates stuff that is looked back at a decade later Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How to use noto sans math font?
On 4/6/2023 6:59 AM, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context wrote: Hi, On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 2:56 AM Li Yanrui (李延瑞) via ntg-context wrote: Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context 于2023年4月5日周三 18:26写道： Hi, No intend to be complete or so (not by computer either, so could not look into it), it was just for a test a while back. But it could serve as a start. /Mikael Hi Mikael, Thanks for your reply. I used the typescript you provided but still get the error as below Math error: parameter 'supshiftup' with id 51 in style 2 is not set OK. I see the link to google fonts above. I am not sure they have the latest version. There were lots of fixes in this font recently (in particular I think a math table was added, so that the font really is identified as a math font, but I might be wrong about that). The one I used was downloaded from https://github.com/notofonts/math/releases/tag/NotoSansMath-v2.539 and that still seems to be the latest. I now compiled my file again, and still no error here. Wondering. I didn't check but why start with a sans math and not a serif ... are the sans alphabets replaced by a serif? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF 2.0 standard documents now free
On 4/6/2023 7:53 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: You can put in arbitrary data and then download. I'll wait till some chat bot can fill that in for ma, every time a unique random set of data. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF 2.0 standard documents now free
On 4/6/2023 8:07 AM, luigi scarso via ntg-context wrote: On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 at 07:54, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote: Am 05.04.23 um 20:09 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: > On 4/5/2023 7:48 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: >> Forwarding from Mastodon: >> >> Adobe, Apryse, Foxit and PDFAssociation have partnered up and made >> ISO32000-2 2020 (aka PDF 2.0), >> ISO/TS 32001 (Extensions to Hash Algorithm Support in ISO 32000-2) and >> ISO/TS 32002 (Extensions to Digital Signatures in ISO 32000-2) >> available as sponsored papers ... so **FREE**. >> Follow the links below; no valid email (or address) necessary: >> https://www.pdfa.org/sponsored-standards/ <https://www.pdfa.org/sponsored-standards/> > kind of interesting thatthe one from adobe is version 1 and the other one 2 > > i'll wait till it's really free .. currently it still costs EUR 0, so > one has to fill in some cart / form You can put in arbitrary data and then download. I don’t think it will become any more free. indeed, but then: why don't we put them on the wiki site / another free site ? > Any legal restrictions ? Probably okay as long as one doesn't resell it for EUR 0 ... It all looks a bit weird to me anyway "sponsored standards" esp with sponsors mentioned on the cover instead of in thanks 'introduction'. What happens when the sponsors withdraw? How does that legally work with distributing? What is there are updates (unlikely anyway). Hans ----- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF 2.0 standard documents now free
On 4/5/2023 7:48 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Forwarding from Mastodon: Adobe, Apryse, Foxit and PDFAssociation have partnered up and made ISO32000-2 2020 (aka PDF 2.0), ISO/TS 32001 (Extensions to Hash Algorithm Support in ISO 32000-2) and ISO/TS 32002 (Extensions to Digital Signatures in ISO 32000-2) available as sponsored papers ... so **FREE**. Follow the links below; no valid email (or address) necessary: https://www.pdfa.org/sponsored-standards/ kind of interesting thatthe one from adobe is version 1 and the other one 2 i'll wait till it's really free .. currently it still costs EUR 0, so one has to fill in some cart / form Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps
On 4/3/2023 9:07 AM, Peter Münster via ntg-context wrote:
Hi,
I'm quite sure, that this worked some time ago with the standard font (LM):
\setff{smallcaps} Normal and \bf bold Small Caps.
(See also https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bold_small_caps).
But it does not work with the latest ConTeXt version.
How could I get bold small caps with the latest version please?
TIA for any hints,
best use a font that has smallcaps (otherwise use pseudocaps \cap{..} etc)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] attempt to index nil value with bidi math in hbox
On 4/3/2023 7:50 AM, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Hans,
This test file:
\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=one]
\starttext
\hbox{$\varepsilon$-TeX}
\stoptext
gives the following error:
callback error:
...ext/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/typo-duc.lmt:618: attempt to
index a nil value (local 'before')
stack traceback:
...ext/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/typo-duc.lmt:618: in
upvalue 'resolve_weak'
...ext/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/typo-duc.lmt:781: in
upvalue 'resolve_levels'
...ext/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/typo-duc.lmt:1053:
in local 'handler'
...ext/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/typo-dir.lmt:182: in
upvalue 'typesetters_directions_handler'
[string "local tonut = nodes.tonut..."]:20: in function <[string "local
tonut = nodes.tonut..."]:13>
(...tail calls...)
Running either this:
i'll check it (at least get rid of the error)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] registered function call [1160]:...live/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/l-sandbox.lua:87: cannot open /.: Permission denied - Alpine Linux
On 4/1/2023 11:21 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 10:22:49PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
On 3/31/2023 10:08 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
sure, why should it, you want lucida so better quit with an error than
kicking in some font; actually cmr math fonts have been obsoleted for way
over a decade by latin modern math fonts in 32 bit font engines
Font loading and processing time can be mosty neglected so these 16 seconds
come from something else, maybe there are ways to trace file access. Another
possibility is that your fonts are not cached in which case every run will
involve parsing the otf / ttf and producing whatever resources needed
(normally cached).
interesting. Earlier as the output was showing
mkiv lua stats > loaded patterns: en::1, load time: 0.000
mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: lucidabrightregular.otf,
lucidasansregular.otf, latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf
you asked
so why not use lucida math fonts?
which is a valid question but nevertheless unsettling in that lmodern-regular
may nat have been called out. I fully understand the inclusion of a
latinmodern-math in it as a lucidamath was not previously available but I
ponder at the idea and involuntary implementation of having lmroman along the
pack. Why? If this is TeX doings, or misdoings (depending how one looks at it),
it clearly shows to me that TeX also restricts my freedom to use whatever font
I may deem necessary. Don't you think? You can probably disagree with me here,
or anyone from the TeX community can, but the roman last was imposed
deliberately upon. Someoe may also give a lengthy explanation but that would be
just hogwash in thee very end .
The fact that a file is loaded doesn't mean that it is used. In fact
there is some fallback loading going on because explaining when nothing
gets typeset or why \nullfont is used which results in missing chars
messages is a waste of time.
It has nothing to do with restrictions: tex will load any font you want
it. But for instance when you turn on some tracing the macro package can
load a font it needs. Indirectly you get what you ask for.
I bet you didn't explicitly ask for e.g. english hyphentation patterns
either but still got them, but tex will happily let you use polish ones
instead.
Of course the best remedy against any automatism is to just start with
initex and implement from scratch.
In the above case: just add \type {foo} and you might see another font
you didn't ask for / set up.
I was actually thinking to ask you about that, and by falling back to cmr math
font that perhaps would expedite loading time along the way.
These fonts are small (only huge cjk fonts with tens of thousands of glyphs
or fonts with hundreds of accumulated features might have some impact but
even then not in the final embedding stage).
Yeah. I guess.
I can also have
mkiv lua stats > loaded patterns: en::1, load time: 0.000
mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 3 files: lucidabrightmathsymbol.ttf,
lucidanewmathitalic.ttf, lucidabrightregular.otf
mkiv lua stats > font engine: otf 3.133, afm 1.513, tfm 1.000, 6 instances, 3
shared in backend, 1 common vectors, 2 common hashes, load time 16.723 seconds
but that loading time gets back at me as the culprit sweet reminder of not
using cmr then.
i won't comment because (i verified) that lucidabrightmathsymbol.ttf and
lucidanewmathitalic.ttf are illegal copies (if created on someones
machine from the typeone its all up to that user).
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[NTG-context] update / punctuation / math
even more classes or dictionaries. If we nevertheless decide to keep
families, we can certainly go with less than we have now, maybe two
(or four
if we want to be generous and also resemble original tex) of them
is enough.
We cannot imagine users wanting more. As a side note: completely
divorcing
families could make the math engine a bit leaner. It is hard to
explain and
users only care about the outcome. So more on this later.
\stopitem
\startitem
Another path to explore is to identify the few building blocks that are
needed for typesetting math, and then doing a bit more at the tex
end. Of
course that would nil quite some earlier effort, which is a bit
frustrating,
but still \unknown\ maybe the math engine can be reduced to a
fraction of
what is is now.
\stopitem
\startitem
When we look at the math fonts and some characters in there, we
sometimes
wonder what makes sense. For some, searching in e.g. arXiv brings
no hit.
Basically we have obsolete math symbols and currently used one.
That made us
think about ancient math versus modern math, just like there is
ancient greek
and modern greek. Because math is a script one can wonder about
obsolete math
dialects with symbols just like there are plenty deal scripts in
\UNICODE. We
already are working on dictionaries but another axis is useability.
\stopitem
\startitem
We no longer have the small / large extensible family model so we can
simplify delimiters in the engine. Not something users should worry
about.
\stopitem
\startitem
We're not sure why math is considered stable because everything moved
forward. Therefore we're preparing a bid for extra math symbols as
needed in
modern explorative and daring math thesis. When symbols are really
used, and
we have proof of that, it should be possible to get them un
\UNICODE, just
like all these emoji. We welcome input and as an example of
currently faked
symbols we added some to the distribution as easter eggs. One example:
Mikael got contacted by a stressed student working on a thesis on
probability. This student needed to typeset the characteristic
function of a
random variable \im {X} with density function \im {f_{X}}, and it was
insisted to use another notation than the (wide) hat, that was
already used
for something else. For this reason the \tex {widerandomhat} was
introduced,
\useMPlibrary[newmath]
\startformula
E[\ee^{\ii tX}] = \widerandomhat{f_{X}}(t)\mtp{,}
E[\ee^{\ii t(X_1+X_2)}] = \widerandomhat{f_{X_1} \ast
f_{X_2}}(t)\mtp{.}
\stopformula
Naturally, it is automatically scaled, just like the ordinary wide hat
\startformula
\widehat{a+b+c+d+e+f} \neq \widerandomhat{a+b+c+d+e+f}
\stopformula
Once the thesis is printed, we will contact the \UNICODE\ Consortium to
suggest that it gets a slot.
\stopitem
\startitem
Our most ambitious project is a reverse engineering one, which is
why it is
conducted at the engineering faculty of the Dnul university (we cannot
reveal the real name yet). In math articles one can find
visualizing like
$x\leftarrow x$ and there are plenty of \TEX\ commands that have
arrow or
hook in their names. If you look at the names of math symbols plenty
are kind of weird. We think it is not natural and are considering a
\quote
{natural language math input} project, where you tell what it is
and get the
symbols you expect. For that we need to analyze typeset math and
from the
context as well as visualization derive a dataset that we can feed
into a
machine learning subsystem that then can be used to turn input into
type. We
have several stages in mind spanning years but it can be fun. Think
of it
like \quote {untagged math} which then of course results in \quote
{untagged
pdf}, but better!
\stopitem
\stopitemize
Mikael & Hans
\stopsubject
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] registered function call [1160]:...live/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/l-sandbox.lua:87: cannot open /.: Permission denied - Alpine Linux
On 3/31/2023 10:08 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: sure, why should it, you want lucida so better quit with an error than kicking in some font; actually cmr math fonts have been obsoleted for way over a decade by latin modern math fonts in 32 bit font engines Font loading and processing time can be mosty neglected so these 16 seconds come from something else, maybe there are ways to trace file access. Another possibility is that your fonts are not cached in which case every run will involve parsing the otf / ttf and producing whatever resources needed (normally cached). I was actually thinking to ask you about that, and by falling back to cmr math font that perhaps would expedite loading time along the way. These fonts are small (only huge cjk fonts with tens of thousands of glyphs or fonts with hundreds of accumulated features might have some impact but even then not in the final embedding stage). Whan talking fonts, enabling for instance expansion (hz) and protusion might increase runtime a little. In practice, enabling for instance synctex has a bigger imnpacts on performance than handling fonts. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Stack overflow when using Neo Euler for math
On 3/31/2023 9:58 PM, Rory Molinari via ntg-context wrote: Hi, I'm in the process of updating to TeXlive 2023 after a long time of light use with 2018. One issue I'm now having is an error when I try to use Neo Euler as my math font. \definefontfamily[mypalatinoeuler][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella] \definefontfamily[mypalatinoeuler][mm][Neo Euler] \setupbodyfont[mypalatinoeuler] \starttext $x=1$ \stoptext It works ok here. Support for these math fonts are a bit in flux (and euler is special anyway). Mikael and I just finished a new round of math tweaks (some interesting esthetics that took some time) and in addition to (and because of) that some otf math fonts have also been also updated (like euler). We want to do some tests before we upload a new version; if we see no problems maybe tomorrow, although the need to adapt to changes in tikz are kind of a showstopper. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] tikz error upgrading to texlive version (artix)
On 3/31/2023 8:16 PM, Ulrike Fischer via ntg-context wrote: Am Fri, 31 Mar 2023 10:10:43 +0200 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: \usemodule[tikz] \starttext Hello World. \stoptext works ok here It fails for me in texlive 2023. works here I don't know who changed what here, but it looks like a catcode something in tikz i guess Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] tikz error upgrading to texlive version (artix)
On 3/31/2023 6:43 PM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2023, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: On 3/30/2023 11:56 PM, Xavier B. via ntg-context wrote: Thanks, Max, for finding the problem. It is related to two more bugs: https://github.com/pgf-tikz/pgf/issues/990 and https://github.com/pgf-tikz/pgf/issues/958 Perhaps Hans or other people could help tikz staff to do the pending and definitive solution. It's annoying to have to put workarrounds in production documents. There is just a glad mkiv user ;-) \usemodule[tikz] \starttext Hello World. \stoptext works ok here Last time I tested, a simple \starttikzpicture \draw (0,0)--(1,0); \stoptikzpicture was failing. I'll try again with the latest version of LMTX + TikZ. Hans, are you using the latest version of tikz from ctan? Some of these issues are due to recent changes made in tikz. What should i take ... is there one has-it-all zip there? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] registered function call [1160]:...live/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/l-sandbox.lua:87: cannot open /.: Permission denied - Alpine Linux
On 3/31/2023 1:40 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
so why not use lucida math fonts?
I have. But only with a couple of math fonts. I don't have all these fonts.
It really pays off to buy the official lucida opentype package.
mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 3 files: lucidanewmathitalic.ttf,
lucidanewmathsymbol.ttf, lucidabrightregular.otf
mkiv lua stats > font engine: otf 3.133, afm 1.513, tfm 1.000, 6 instances, 3
shared in backend, 1 common vectors, 2 common hashes, load time 16.733 seconds
I never heard of these math ones. Did you get these from yandytex (no
longer around) or TUG (the official distributer of lucida opentype
math)? Anyway, as we fine tune math fonts for sure you get suboptimal
results (or even wrong output). Mikael and I put quite a bit of care
into lucida opentype math.
I do agree with you in that that loading time is perhaps unacceptable but…
> ...
You ought to specify that must be only after subsequent callbacks. I just tried
it with a one liner file of \setupbodyfont[lucida] and (looking around in
disbelief) it took a whooping ahem
fonts > names > skipped files: 164
fonts > names > duplicate files : 164
fonts > names > total scan time : 16.487 seconds
I have no clue, unless that relates to your font path including some
home dir which gets scanned every time for whatever reason and that has
tens of thousands of files. I can process the 350+ page luametatex
manual twice in these 16 seconds and that one loads quite some (also
math) fonts and my laptop is not a fancy 2023 one
before it produced even error messages.
beating me for 2 seconds. Great. And then it restricted my freedom by saying
«Sorry, but I can't typeset math unless various parameters have been set. This
is
normally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots. Your
font
set is lacking at least the parameter mentioned earlier.»
that's pretty clear: you don't load a math font at all, maybe some text
font pretending it is math
Sorry, but sorry doesn't cut it here.
it does: no proper math font found so reason to complain
I guess it must have been referring to \strc_formulas_place_number
\strc_formulas_flush_number \dostarttagged \t!formulacontent \empty
\dotagregisterformula \c_strc_formulas_n \csname \e!stop \formulaparameter
\c!alternative \v!formula \endcsname
dunno, that's numbering, not math
Okay. So I tried another file. This time around with only
\setupbodyfont[lucida]
\starttext
$ test $
\stoptext
and then the output message was «Somewhere in the math formula just ended, you
used the stated character from an
undefined font family. For example, plain TeX doesn't allow \it or \sl in
subscripts. Proceed, and I'll try to forget that I needed that character.»
There's not even a fallback to cmr or any other font.
sure, why should it, you want lucida so better quit with an error than
kicking in some font; actually cmr math fonts have been obsoleted for
way over a decade by latin modern math fonts in 32 bit font engines
There was not even a personalized touch in the output. That message sounds like
one of these new GPT-chat features. Dry. When I read that «Proceed, and I'll
try to forget it…» part the first thing I thought was: yeah, I'll proceed by
removing that file altogether and you'll forget it for sure .
that message is part of 'reference tex the program' for over 40 years so
if chatgpt would come up with it, it would do so by having parsed plenty
of tex sources instead of inventing it (and when it comes to answering
tex related questions chargpt is pretty unreliable, but that's another
topic)
But instaed I looked at it and though to myself «how much has changed?!» In
plain TeX (I have forgotten it a bit) but I can still type
> \par
> $test$
> \end
and it'll produce a dvi file in return.
a lot has changed: opentype math, unicode, more demands but indeed there
is nothing against using plain tex with cmr and dvi fonts if that suits
well; and plain tex will always be faster than context (or latex) just
like pdftex with 8 bit fonts is faster than luatex with 32 bit fonts
(with luametatex sitting in between wrt performance)
anyway, i bet that if you want to use lucida with plain you also have
to do some work and it will complain as loud as luametatex when th efont
parameters are not set
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Re: [NTG-context] tikz error upgrading to texlive version (artix)
On 3/30/2023 11:56 PM, Xavier B. via ntg-context wrote:
Thanks, Max, for finding the problem. It is related to two more bugs:
https://github.com/pgf-tikz/pgf/issues/990
and
https://github.com/pgf-tikz/pgf/issues/958
Perhaps Hans or other people could help tikz staff to do the pending and
definitive solution.
It's annoying to have to put workarrounds in production documents.
There is just a glad mkiv user ;-)
\usemodule[tikz]
\starttext
Hello World.
\stoptext
works ok here
\usemodule[tikz]
\starttext
\starttikzpicture
\node [left color=red, right color=yellow] {Hello};
\stoptikzpicture
\stoptext
fails on
\setbox \pgfutil@tempboxa =\hbox dir
TLT to\pgfmathresult pt{\vbox
because we don't have 'dir TLT' in luametatex (and more engines don't so
i would expect tikz to have some abstraction for that)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] tikz error upgrading to texlive version (artix)
On 3/30/2023 8:52 PM, Xavier B. via ntg-context wrote:
Hi,
I use artix linux (a fork of arch with systemd alternative init systems).
During the texlive package, I get this error:
return {
["filename"]="/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/basiclayer/pgfcorepoints.code.tex",
["lastcontext"]="\n \n \\inaccessible \n \n \"\n\\pgfmath@catcodes
->\\catcode `\\==12 \\catcode `\\,=12 \\catcode `\\|=12 \\catcode `\\&=12 \\let \"\n
\\pgfmath@char@quote \n\\pgfmathparse ->\\begingroup \\pgfmath@catcodes \n
\\pgfmath@quickparsefalse \\ifpgfmathfloat \\let \\pgfmath@parse@next =\\pgfmathfloatparsenumber \\else \\let \\pgfmath@parse@next
=\\pgfmathparse@ \\fi \\pgfmath@parse@next \n \\pgfmathparse \n {1cm}\\ifpgfmathmathunitsdeclared \\pgf@x
\\pgfmathresult mu\\relax \\else \\pgf@x \\pgfmathresult pt\\relax \\fi \n\\pgfmath@next #1#2->#2\n \n...\nl.926
\\pgfsetxvec{\\pgfpoint{1cm}{0cm}}\n ",
["lastluaerror"]="?",
["lasttexerror"]="! Missing control sequence inserted",
["linenumber"]=926,
["offset"]=10,
}
I simply run context to this file:
\usemodule[tikz]
\starttext
{\bf a} \tikz (0,0) -- (1,0);
\stoptext
i have little clue about tikz but shouldn't that be something
\tikz \draw (0,0) -- (1,0);
at least that gives a line here.
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] tikz error upgrading to texlive version (artix)
On 3/31/2023 2:42 AM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: On Thu, 30 Mar 2023, Xavier B. via ntg-context wrote: Thanks, Max, for finding the problem. It is related to two more bugs: https://github.com/pgf-tikz/pgf/issues/990 and https://github.com/pgf-tikz/pgf/issues/958 Perhaps Hans or other people could help tikz staff to do the pending and definitive solution. It's annoying to have to put workarrounds in production documents. There is just a glad mkiv user ;-) I reported that tikz is not working a few months ago, but after a few back and forth with Hans, could not get it to work. At that time, it appeared that I was the only have having issues, so I thought that I was making a mistake in how I was installing the package. I have reverted to using mkiv for my course notes, because I heavily use pgfplots and that is not working in LMTX. (I was also using some nice new features of metafun, and have had to resort to compiling them externally using LMTX via the filter module and compiling the main doc with MkIV). afaik tikz should work ok, so can you make a test file? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] meta-imp-fen in mkxl?
On 3/30/2023 6:22 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context wrote:
Hi all,
I wanted to use a rightbrace as background for a table, as defined in
meta-imp-fen.mkiv. Unfortunately, I can't get it to work, for 2 reasons:
1. meta-imp-fen doesn't appear to be ported to mkxl.
2. When I try to compile with the --luatex switch, I get this error
message:
tex error > tex error on line 101 in file
/mnt/shared/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/meta-imp-dum.mkiv: ! Undefined control sequence
l.101 \newinteger
\c_grph_replacement_n
So, I'm a bit stymied right now. What can be done?
\let\newinteger\newcount
i'll add that to mkiv
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Re: [NTG-context] characters.tex.toutf bug
On 3/30/2023 7:57 AM, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Hans,
"characters.tex.toutf" only works if there is a backslash somewhere in
its input string. This leads to some really surprising behaviour in the
following example:
\definefontfeature[default][tlig=no, trep=no]
\startbuffer[test-bib]
@article{one,
author = {``Author---\v{O}ne''},
}
@article{two,
author = {``Author---Two''},
}
\stopbuffer
\usebtxdataset[test-bib.buffer]
\starttext
\placelistofpublications[method=dataset]
\stoptext
Removing the following lines
elseif not find(str,"\\",1,true) then
return str
from the definition of "characters.tex.toutf" in "char-tex.{lmt,lua}"
fixes this issue for me.
it is more side effect of removing the (declared obsolete some years
ago) `` '' input which catched it later
i tend to remove
for k, v in next, ligaturemapping do
hash[k] = v
end
in favor of an explicit 'tquo' feature that one can enable if wanted
\definefontfeature[default][default][tlig=yes,tquo=yes,trep=yes]
\startbuffer[test-bib]
@article{one,
author = {``Author---\v{O}ne''},
}
@article{two,
author = {``Author---Two''},
}
@article{three,
author = {Author---Two},
}
@article{three,
author = {,,Author---Two''},
}
\stopbuffer
so I tested that with the above which seems to work.
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Spacing problem around decimal point
On 3/29/2023 2:06 AM, Jim via ntg-context wrote: Hi all, I d/l'ed that binary, replaced the TeXlive version (which is dated March 11, even though I just updated texlive 5 minutes ago) and, lo and behold, the PDF now looks like it should. So from my point of view, that particular issue is resolved. Sorry about your issues with Mac security. I have this feeling that Apple is slowly iterating towards a state where they sell you an expensive computer with a beautiful acrylic and polished stainless steel stand and ask you just to admire it, but don't touch it. :-) as they don't update the os after 7 year (so i could only test it on some ancient intel osx, maybe with less security in place) you end up with stacking them up to a decent steel pedestral but, even then, one can always build the binary oneself (installing some dev tools + cmake worked out ok for me on that insecure 2013 machine) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] registered function call [1160]:...live/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/l-sandbox.lua:87: cannot open /.: Permission denied - Alpine Linux
On 3/28/2023 7:05 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 03:43:47PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: On 3/27/2023 3:31 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf, lucidabrightregular.ttf, lucidasansregular.ttf i admit never having seen lucida ttf files (but when opentype ttf files are used with an afm file present then no map files are needed at all because we're in wide font mode and encidings are ignored) I hadn't either. But everything aligned and thought it was nice. You're right that loading a map file is not needed, but If you're concerned about afm files then bring these files over to the working directory, and then mtxrun --generate the same So yes. Even though the file was something like (intended originally to load the map file, correct?) but since the map file is no longer necessary then afm should suffice \starttypescript [serif] [lucida] [texnansi] \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightDemiBold][texnansi-lucidabrightdemibold][encoding=texnansi] \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightDemiItalic][texnansi-lucidabrightdemiitalic][encoding=texnansi] \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightItalic][texnansi-lucidabrightitalic][encoding=texnansi] \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightRegular][texnansi-lucidabrightregular][encoding=texnansi] \stoptypescript these encodings only make sense with mkii (in which case the map file tells pdftex if a ttf or pfb file is used) in mkiv encodings are ignored, when a ttf/otf file is used no afm is read, and when a pfb fils is used the afm is used (ligature adn kerning info etc) but a wide font is assembled (when a ttf is used the lucidaot typescript file can serve as example) in mkxl we assume the otf files sold by TUG are used (recently the math font was updated) and not with the file specification as in: \starttypescript [mylucidaserif] % or mylucidasans \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightRegular][file:LucidaBrightRegular] \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightItalic] [file:LucidaBrightItalic] \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightBold] [file:LucidaBrightDemiBold] \stoptypescript and \setups[font:fallback:serif:sans] wouldn't be needed either you'd end up with in mkxl (lmtx) \setupbodyfont[lucida] will load open type definitions mkiv lua stats > loaded patterns: en::1, load time: 0.000 mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: lucidabrightregular.otf, lucidasansregular.otf, latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf so why not use lucida math fonts? mkiv lua stats > font engine: otf 3.133, afm 1.513, tfm 1.000, 12 instances, 5 shared in backend, 3 common vectors, 2 common hashes, load time 16.898 seconds i assume that you don't get this 16 seconds load time each run You're correct. That's why you recommended to use otf first . even with type one fonts 17 sec load time for a few fonts is not okay, i expect more something like: mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 3 files: lucidabrightmathot.otf, lucidabrightot.otf, lucidasansot.otf mkiv lua stats > font engine: otf 3.133, afm 1.513, tfm 1.000, 14 instances, 10 shared in backend, 6 common vectors, 4 common hashes, load time 0.161 seconds (so 100 times less load time here) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \writetolist not writing the number to the TOC
On 3/26/2023 3:10 PM, Willi Egger via ntg-context wrote:
Hello Hraban,
thank you. I missed this point. However, adding a dot behind the number does
not appear to solve the problem. The title’s text still starts at the left
margin which looks very odd.
Kind regards
Willi
On 26 Mar 2023, at 12:51, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
wrote:
Am 25.03.23 um 23:05 schrieb Willi Egger via ntg-context:
Good evening!
I have a setup in which I need to send info to the TOC:
Consider the following example:
\starttext
\starttitle[title=Contents]
\placelist[chapter][criterium=all]
\stoptitle
\startchapter[title=Mychapter]
\input knuth
\startsubject[title=Subject will be in TOC]
\writetolist[chapter]{1}{I am in TOC!}
\input ward
\stopsubject
\stopchapter
\stoptext
According to the Wiki I should get te number (1) in the TOC. Instead the text
starts at the height of the chapter-numbering and is not carrying the given
number.
Am I doing something wrong?
The wiki says:
“The default table of contents is combined list. To write to it one has to
choose the level to which it should be inserted:
\writetolist[chapter]{1.}{Chapter list entry A},
\writetolist[section]{1.1}{Section list entry A}, etc.”
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/writetolist
So maybe you need a dot?
Otherwise I don’t know.
\definehead[xsubject][section][number=no]
\setuplist[xsubject][margin=2em]
\starttext
\starttitle[title=Contents]
\placelist[chapter,xsubject][criterium=all]
\stoptitle
\startchapter[title=Mychapter]
\input knuth
\startxsubject[title=Subject will be in TOC1] \input ward
\stopxsubject
\startxsubject[title=Subject will be in TOC2] \input ward
\stopxsubject
\stopchapter
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] registered function call [1160]:...live/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/l-sandbox.lua:87: cannot open /.: Permission denied - Alpine Linux
On 3/27/2023 3:31 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: latinmodern-math.otf,
lmroman10-regular.otf, lucidabrightregular.ttf, lucidasansregular.ttf
i admit never having seen lucida ttf files (but when opentype ttf files
are used with an afm file present then no map files are needed at all
because we're in wide font mode and encidings are ignored)
mkiv lua stats > font engine: otf 3.133, afm 1.513, tfm 1.000, 12 instances, 5
shared in backend, 3 common vectors, 2 common hashes, load time 16.898 seconds
mkiv lua stats > math tweaking time: 0.102 seconds, 12 math goodie tables
mkiv lua stats > font embedding time: 0.004 seconds, 2 fonts
i assume that you don't get this 16 seconds load time each run
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] registered function call [1160]:...live/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/l-sandbox.lua:87: cannot open /.: Permission denied - Alpine Linux
On 3/26/2023 3:08 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 01:04:30PM +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Am 25.03.23 um 23:42 schrieb Carlos via ntg-context: fonts | names | 3092 afm files checked, okay fonts | names | identifying tree font files with suffix 'AFM' fonts | names | scanning path '/home/ce/.texlive2023/texmf-config' for AFM files fonts | names | variable 'OSFONTDIR' specifies path '/home/ce' fonts | names | variable 'OSFONTDIR' specifies path '/usr/share/fonts' fonts | names | globbing path '/home/ce/**.otf' There is something strange here. Is maybe TEXMFHOME set? Since you use a TeX live installation, some other texmfcnf.lua or texmf.cnf might interfere. Look into /usr/local/texlive/2023/ I'll check again to make sure. But keep in mind this issue predates the official TeX Live installation . I've been using the distro prepackaged for a while. And yes. It's always been there. Sort of like, it came with the system :) Since it scans everything in your home directory, maybe TEXMFHOME or OSFONTDIR is set to ~ (instead ~/texmf) there? But even if there was a conflict, it wouldn't justify to be scanninp up everything viciously. Well, if fonts can be anywhere that means checking for them anywhere. TeX installations have some directory setup for a reason. Imagine that you set up the installation to include that wildcard path in TEXINPUITS then every run that whole tree would get scanned for a file you ask for and that is not in the current directory. The whole idea behind TDS and defining paths for specific kind of files it to limit lookups. So far I've had to move about 7-8 folders. About 6 of them are owned by root, the rest are owned by root but symlinked to user. I would not do that, instead I'd fix ny OSFONTDIR path. Even with some directories moved you still end with plenty useless scanning. And to top it off, after doing so, it didn't stop there, heck no, it also wanted to snoop in a folder with cache and headers. To be honest. I woudlnt' know what to make of it. If it's simply looking into the permissions of the directories first, or the fact that it has a colon separated pattern. But. Then again. The other folders didn't have it. I'll let you know. What if you use the regular context installation (not texlive) and see what that does? Maybe that gives a clue. (btw, the official texlive 2023 was tested on windows, linux and osx so there must be something special at your end.) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Spacing problem around decimal point
On 3/26/2023 4:20 AM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
Hi List,
I’m getting strange spaces around some decimal points after a clean LMTX
install. MWE:
\starttext
\startformula
v = \frac{1.32}{1.41} = 0.935
\stopformula
\stoptext
This produces the result attached below. The 1.32 looks fine, but the next two
numbers have excess space around the decimal point. Adding the line
\showmakeup[mathglue] %\mathspacingmode=1
to the preamble reveals that the second and third decimal points are being
treated as binary operators. It’s very strang. Are others getting this?
can you pick up a binary from:
https://dl.contextgarden.net/build/luametatex/work/
and test it?
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Spacing problem around decimal point
On 3/26/2023 4:20 AM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
Hi List,
I’m getting strange spaces around some decimal points after a clean LMTX
install. MWE:
\starttext
\startformula
v = \frac{1.32}{1.41} = 0.935
\stopformula
\stoptext
This produces the result attached below. The 1.32 looks fine, but the next two
numbers have excess space around the decimal point. Adding the line
\showmakeup[mathglue] %\mathspacingmode=1
to the preamble reveals that the second and third decimal points are being
treated as binary operators. It’s very strang. Are others getting this?
weird indeed
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Re: [NTG-context] \definemathfence broken in latest
On 3/26/2023 8:18 AM, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context wrote: I think command=yes was changed into define=yes. indeed. consistency across \definesomeghing Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] registered function call [1160]:...live/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/l-sandbox.lua:87: cannot open /.: Permission denied - Alpine Linux
On 3/25/2023 10:36 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 09:45:25PM +0100, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: On 3/25/2023 8:55 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: ...xlive/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-syn.lua:1030: in upvalue 'walk_tree' Maybe your OSFONTDIR is pointing to empty. Does Good call. Thank you for the reminder Hans. But no. That variable was set long ago . Even appended it to both the bash initialization file and also under /etc/profile (just in case here). Alpine uses ash so shells must be changed mtxrun --script font --reload fonts | names | 3092 afm files checked, okay fonts | names | identifying tree font files with suffix 'AFM' fonts | names | scanning path '/home/ce/.texlive2023/texmf-config' for AFM files fonts | names | 0 AFM files checked, okay fonts | names | scanning path '/home/ce/texmf' for AFM files fonts | names | 0 AFM files checked, okay fonts | names | scanning path '/usr/local/texlive/2023/texmf-config' for AFM files fonts | names | 0 AFM files checked, okay fonts | names | scanning path '/usr/local/texlive/2023/texmf-var' for AFM files fonts | names | 0 AFM files checked, okay fonts | names | scanning path '/usr/local/texlive/2023/texmf-local' for AFM files fonts | names | 24 AFM files checked, okay fonts | names | scanning path '/usr/local/texlive/2023/texmf-dist' for AFM files fonts | names | 3092 AFM files checked, okay fonts | names | 6232 tree files identified, 14 skipped, 14 duplicates, 6218 hash entries added, runtime 8.458 seconds fonts | names | identifying system font files with suffix 'otf' fonts | names | variable 'OSFONTDIR' specifies path '/home/ce' fonts | names | variable 'OSFONTDIR' specifies path '/usr/share/fonts' fonts | names | globbing path '/home/ce/**.otf' lua error : function call: /usr/local/texlive/2023/bin/x86_64-linuxmusl/mtxrun.lua:649: cannot open /home/ce/cache/headers/imaps:@gmail@imap.gmail.com/[Gmail]/.: Permission denied hm, but is home/ce/cache a path where there are fonts to be found? something sets that path to be a fully recursive font dir can you set OSFONTDIR to '/usr/share/fonts' (personally i never use system fonts, i always put copies in texmf-fonts/fonts/data becasue system fonts can change or disappear) Recall that the other folders owned by root had to be moved out of the way So it seems it wasn't enough, nope. Now it wants access elsewhere bottom line: it wants root permissions or else fails flat out well, it's not entirely clear what generates the permission denied; i can check for the home/ce being readable but doing that for every regular file below that would add lots of slow checks and i'm not even sure if it would fix it; i can try to check nested dirs but that then also obscures possible issues Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] registered function call [1160]:...live/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/l-sandbox.lua:87: cannot open /.: Permission denied - Alpine Linux
On 3/25/2023 8:55 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: ...xlive/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-syn.lua:1030: in upvalue 'walk_tree' Maybe your OSFONTDIR is pointing to empty. Does mtxrun --script font --reload work Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] registered function call [1160]:...live/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/l-sandbox.lua:87: cannot open /.: Permission denied - Alpine Linux
On 3/25/2023 8:55 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: Hello list: This is under a fresh TeXLive installation. Sort as to put aside any texlive prepackaged issues. And the followign lines is the output of the error I've been having with the call of context on a recent texlive installation by both mtxrun --generate and luatools --generate right after. there i no need to use luatools (it's something old from the early days) what does mtxrun --generate --verbose report (whre does it fail) 57 \starttext 58 59 \usetypescriptfile[type-lucida] 60 \usetypescript[Lucida][texnansi] 61 >> \setupbodyfont[MyLucida, 10pt] 62 63 \input zapf 64 65 \input tufte fwiw, lucida type one makes no sense any more because the opentype version is way better (and in the updated math setup in lmtx we didn't even look at it) Is LuaLaTeX behaving the same way? Answer: no. no surprise because it doesn't use the same setup what cache path does mtxrun --variables report Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bug in searching TTC fonts for the script of mtxrun
On 3/22/2023 11:10 AM, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: http://liyanrui.github.io/share/fonts/fonts-noto-cjk.zip <http://liyanrui.github.io/share/fonts/fonts-noto-cjk.zip> Ok. I'll check it. next upload: >mtxrun --script font --list --file NotoSerifCJK-Regular.ttc familyname weight stylewidthvariant fontname filename subfont fontweight notoserifcjkhk normal normal normal normal notoserifcjkhkregular NotoSerifCJK-Regular.ttc 5 conflict: regular - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bug in searching TTC fonts for the script of mtxrun
On 3/22/2023 9:58 AM, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) via ntg-context wrote:
Hans Hagen via ntg-context <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> 于2023年3月22日周三 15:51写道：
On 3/22/2023 7:15 AM, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> I have already installed some Chinese TTC fonts, e.g.
> NotoSerifCJK-Regular.ttc. But when I use mtxrun command to search
them,
> I get an error.
>
> $ mtxrun --script font --list --file NotoSerifCJK-Regular.ttc
> lua error : function call:
>
...e/garfileo/opt/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun.lua:10012: bad
> argument #9 to 'format' (number expected, got string)
Where can i find that font? There was a time when one could download a
zip with all noto fonts but last time i checked that option was gone
and
one ends up with downloading single ones which is a waste of time but I
might have missed a link.
These fonts that I use are provided in ubuntu desktop. If you have an
ubuntu system, you can get all of them by
$ sudo apt install fonts-noto-cjk # or more fonts in the
fonts-noto-cjk-extra package.
The package includes the following fonts:
NotoSerifCJK-Regular.ttc
NotoSerifCJK-Bold.ttc
NotoSansCJK-Bold.ttc
NotoSansCJK-Regular.ttc
I have uploaded the four of them into github. The download link is
http://liyanrui.github.io/share/fonts/fonts-noto-cjk.zip
<http://liyanrui.github.io/share/fonts/fonts-noto-cjk.zip>
Ok. I'll check it.
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in searching TTC fonts for the script of mtxrun
On 3/22/2023 7:15 AM, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) via ntg-context wrote: Hi Hans, I have already installed some Chinese TTC fonts, e.g. NotoSerifCJK-Regular.ttc. But when I use mtxrun command to search them, I get an error. $ mtxrun --script font --list --file NotoSerifCJK-Regular.ttc lua error : function call: ...e/garfileo/opt/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun.lua:10012: bad argument #9 to 'format' (number expected, got string) Where can i find that font? There was a time when one could download a zip with all noto fonts but last time i checked that option was gone and one ends up with downloading single ones which is a waste of time but I might have missed a link. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] building from source
On 3/21/2023 12:14 PM, Rainer J.H. Brandt via ntg-context wrote: Dear Context developers, I want to build Context MkXL from source and use that. I went to the download page http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm and downloaded the 2023-03-20 version: http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-tmf.zip This contains README.adoc which tells me that information can be found on https://wiki.contextgarden.net. I don't find any further information about building from source, either in the dowloaded material, or on the wiki or the pragma-ade.com site. What am I overlooking? First define 'build from source'. The lmtx (mkxl) installation can be installed using an installer. If there is not one for the platform one uses, then one can download the cont-lmt zip and build the binary in /source/luametatex usign the build.sh script in there. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \stoptabulate
On 3/21/2023 12:34 AM, Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context wrote:
I have a technical manual style document that requires a lot of examples to be
included.
They can easily be typeset with a table so I thought I would save myself some
typing by defining macros for the various bits of a tabulate table. Thus I have:
\def\startMyExample{\starttabulate[|r|c|l|p|]}
\def\stopMyExample{\stoptabulate}
\def\MyExampleItem#1#2#3{\NC #1 \NC \rightarrow \NC #2 \NC #3 \NC\NR}
\starttext
Here are some examples...
\startMyExample
\MyExampleItem{before}{after}{change before into after}
\MyExampleItem{straw}{gold}{Rumpelstiltskin}
\stopMyExample
%\stoptabulate
\stoptext
The problem is that \stopMyExample doesn't work - the \stoptabulate isn't
recognised and I get an end of file reached error. If use a straight \stoptabulate
then it works as expected. That's fine but it would be nice, from an aesthetic
point of view, to have start & stop 'paired' commands in the source.
Presumably some sort of deep ConTeXt fu is going on - can anyone explain it
please?
\definetabulate[MyExample][|r|c|l|p|]
\def\MyExampleItem#1#2#3{\NC #1 \NC \rightarrow \NC #2 \NC #3 \NC\NR}
\startMyExample
\MyExampleItem{before}{after}{change before into after}
\MyExampleItem{straw}{gold}{Rumpelstiltskin}
\stopMyExample
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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in tabulate
On 3/21/2023 7:20 AM, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) via ntg-context wrote:
Hi,
Please see the following example:
\startTEXpage[offset=5mm]
\starttabulate[|c|c|c|]
\VL 1 \VL 2 \VL 3\VL\NR
\stoptabulate
\blank
\starttabulate[|c|c|c|]
\NC 1 \NC 2 \NC 3\NR
\stoptabulate
\stopTEXpage
In its result, there is a rule in the left side of the second tabulate.
The result is attached. My lmtx version is 2023.03.20 17:07.
in tabl-tbl.mkxl you can patch this
\def\tabl_tabulate_vrule_reset_step % undefined or relax
{\gletcsname\??tabulatevrule0\endcsname\undefined
\gletcsname\??tabulatevrule\the\fastloopindex\endcsname\undefined}
after that remake the format,
Hans
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[NTG-context] update
Hi,
I updated LMTX. Most improvements are in 'math' as Mikael and I keep
mailing down some details that bother us. We also have some updates in
the math fonts that Daniel Flipo maintains so the repertoire of
alternatives with all-right math support grows.
As a side note: lmtx installs nicely on my android (12) phone (userland
ubuntu) and luametatex compiles nicely from source (as it's aarch64) in
about a minute. No decent editor to text real documents but who knows
what a properly dockable (linux supporting) phone can do in a few years.
A simple
\starttext \dorecurse{1000}{\samplefile{tufte}\par} \stoptext
runs at over 55 pps (85 pps on my laptop). Making a format takes 4
seconds (second time, after caching, which is about twice the time my
laptop takes).
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] \unit parser ignoring case, in some cases.
On 3/14/2023 7:14 PM, Alan Braslau via ntg-context wrote:
On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 12:03:23 -0600
Gavin wrote:
I’d really like one of the acceptable forms to be the form prescribed
by Le Système international d'unités
Maybe the french title is one of the reasons for the USA not picking up
on these units? (So let me threaten once again to kick the "in" unit out
of context.)
I believe that this point is essential, regardless of history of use of
the \unit{} command. Non-standard use of units can be *tolerated* as
long as they do not conflict with the SI and do not impose non-standard
syntax.
Alan
P.S. It is our guarded secret that the weather is nice here in
Colorado. I do not know of any other place that has real seasons AND
where it is (almost) always sunny! :-)
Here it fluctuates from zero to 15 (and behind the single pane glass in
the office room with sun on it then 18 or more). Now of course, given
units, you have to guess how much that is becuase you're with your
French foot in Celsius, and the English one in Farhenheit and with both
feet in Kelvin (for your book).
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] \unit parser ignoring case, in some cases.
On 3/14/2023 7:03 PM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
I’d like to better understand how the \unit{} command works and why those
choices were made. Some of the choices seem to be “asking for troubles,” but
perhaps they are essential for some users.
I wonder if Alan was using context when the first unit module showed up
in (what wasn't even call;ed mkii) because it is one of the oldest
context modules and we use(d) for typesetting education related
documents. Among the reasons for it was that in the pre-unicode times
one had to compromise on a math / text mixture due to the way fonts and
input was handled.
I’m happy to have the unit command accept a variety of different forms for the
unit, but I’d really like one of the acceptable forms to be the form prescribed
by Le Système international d'unités, so that “m s” is a meter second and “ms”
is a millisecond. However, I’m not sure if this goal conflicts with other
important goals.
Would you like to explore \unit{} this summer to see if we can find a
consistent solution? Perhaps we can produce a plan for \unit{} that does not
conflict with other \unit{} features, or perhaps we can make a module that
lacks some of the features of \unit{} but conforms to the SI for input as well
as output. I would be happy with either.
In principle one can think of different schemes (for different purposes
even), after all everything is in tables; that is probably easier than
tring to come up with some complex compromise. There can be instances of
unit with different properties.
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] \unit parser ignoring case, in some cases.
On 3/14/2023 5:33 PM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Alan, Hans, and List,
On Mar 13, 2023, at 8:10 PM, Alan Braslau via ntg-context
wrote:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 15:55:50 -0600 Gavin via ntg-context
wrote:
you can look at phys-dim and see plenty of short and long keys and
making all case insensitive is asking for troubles
Indeed, I would like to make NONE of them case insensitive. But
currently, when I register an upper case key (C=coulomb) it messes up
the lower case prefix (“cm" gets typeset as C•m). I was expecting the
parser to distinguish between the “C” and “c”, but it doesn’t. Is
that intended?
Indeed, \unit{} should allow (and presently does not) K, C, etc.
I agree. I added the following lines to phys-dim.lua, following line 461
C = "coulomb",
K = "kelvin",
N = "newton",
This provided the desired capital shortcuts without compromising the lowercase
prefixes. Hans, could we get those added to phys-dim.lua in the distribution? I
would be happy to do a more comprehensive search for shortcuts to add, but
those are the three I and my collaborators are using now.
maybe, when there are no conflicts
Looking at why my \registerunit attempt failed, I found that when you register
a unit, both your capitalization, and an all lowercase version are registered.
Here is an example, where I register “ReTeM” but \unit{1 retem} also works.
\starttext
\registerunit[unit][ReTeM=myunit]
\setupunittext[myunit=reTeM]
\startformula
\unit{1 ReTeM} = \unit{1 retem} \neq \unit{1 reteM}
\stopformula
\stoptext
The results are case sensitive, so \unit{1 reteM} does not work. The lowercase
version is produced for all “long” units, but not for shortcuts. (See phys-dim.lua,
lines 766-771 where the Lua string function “lower” is used.) Perhaps we could use a
\registershortcut command that does not get the “lower" treatment. I will look
into it some more.
see previous mail, i already added that but no upload yet
P.S. I think there is a spelling error in phys-dim.lua, lines 974-981.
local mapping = {
prefix = "prefixes",
unit = "units",
operator = "operators",
suffixe = "suffixes",
symbol = "symbols",
packaged = "packaged",
}
The key “suffixe” should probably be “suffix”.
indeed, i noticed that when extending
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Re: [NTG-context] \unit parser ignoring case, in some cases.
On 3/13/2023 10:55 PM, Gavin wrote:
On Mar 13, 2023, at 3:44 PM, Hans Hagen via ntg-context
wrote:
On 3/9/2023 2:04 PM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
\startformula
\unit{3 meter} \qquad
\unit{6 Meter} \qquad
\unit{3 mEtEr} \qquad
\stopformula
Units with lowercase prefixes (c, k, n).
\startformula
\unit{3cm} \qquad
\unit{6kg} \qquad
\unit{3ns} \qquad
\stopformula
Units with capital letters, called with names (coulomb, kelvin, newton).
\startformula
\unit{3 coulomb} \qquad
\unit{6 kelvin} \qquad
\unit{3 newton} \qquad
\stopformula
you can look at phys-dim and see plenty of short and long keys and making all
case insensitive is asking for troubles
Indeed, I would like to make NONE of them case insensitive. But currently, when I
register an upper case key (C=coulomb) it messes up the lower case prefix (“cm"
gets typeset as C•m). I was expecting the parser to distinguish between the “C” and
“c”, but it doesn’t. Is that intended?
I added an option and an extra registers but it's up to you to decide
hwo to use it (and how to deal with conflicts in definitions).
\registerunit
[unit]
[Point=PT,
point=pt,
Basepoint=BP,
% basepoint=bp,
]
\registerunitshortcut
[unit]
[C=coulomb]
\startlines
10 \unit {square meter per second}
10 \unit {square Meter per Second}
10 \unit {point}
10 \unit {Point}
10 \unit {basepoint}
10 \unit {Basepoint}
10 \unit {C}
\stoplines
\setupunit[unit][option=keep]
\startlines
10 \unit {square meter per second}
10 \unit {square Meter per Second}
10 \unit {point}
10 \unit {Point}
10 \unit {basepoint}
10 \unit {Basepoint}
10 \unit {C}
\stoplines
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Re: [NTG-context] \unit parser ignoring case, in some cases.
On 3/9/2023 2:04 PM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
\startformula
\unit{3 meter} \qquad
\unit{6 Meter} \qquad
\unit{3 mEtEr} \qquad
\stopformula
Units with lowercase prefixes (c, k, n).
\startformula
\unit{3cm} \qquad
\unit{6kg} \qquad
\unit{3ns} \qquad
\stopformula
Units with capital letters, called with names (coulomb, kelvin, newton).
\startformula
\unit{3 coulomb} \qquad
\unit{6 kelvin} \qquad
\unit{3 newton} \qquad
\stopformula
you can look at phys-dim and see plenty of short and long keys and
making all case insensitive is asking for troubles
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Re: [NTG-context] How to extend an existing macro to take optional parameters?
On 3/12/2023 2:24 PM, Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context wrote:
I have an existing macro that I'd like to extend.
The current definition is \define[3]\mycommand{...} which I'd like to extend to
take an optional 4th parameter plus an optional setup parameter.
Thus I currently invoke it as:
\mycommand{aa}{bb}{cc}
and I'd like to be able to extend it so that any of the following can be used:
\mycommand{aa}{bb}{cc}
\mycommand{aa}{bb}{cc}{dd}
\mycommand{aa}{bb}{cc}{dd}[ee]
or
\mycommand[ee]{aa}{bb}{cc}{dd} % if this is more the ConTeXt way
where {dd} is the optional extra parameter and, if it is present, then [ee] can
also be optionally added (because it controls how {dd} is printed).
If it helps, the actual body of the macro can easily be a call to Lua so it's
fine if the function takes 5 params where 4 and 5 can be nil or empty strings.
I've trawled through syst-aux.mkiv but it only covers optional numbers of [ ]
or { } but not combinations of both (which given the vast numbers of
combinations is perhaps not surprising!). Have I missed something obvious that
would help me?
So, four optional with mandate {} plus a fallback to an optional []
\starttext
\tolerant\def\mycommand#=#=#=#=#:[#5]%
{\ifparameter#1\or(1:#1)\fi
\ifparameter#2\or(2:#2)\fi
\ifparameter#3\or(3:#3)\fi
\ifparameter#4\or(4:#4)\fi
\ifparameter#5\or[5:#5]\fi}
\startbuffer
\mycommand{aa}{bb}{cc}
\mycommand{aa}{bb}{cc}{dd}
\mycommand{aa}{bb}{cc}{dd}[ee]
\mycommand{aa}{bb}{cc}
\mycommand{aa}{bb}{cc}{dd}
\mycommand{aa}{bb}{cc}{dd}[ee]
\stopbuffer
\typebuffer
\startlines \getbuffer \stoplines
\stoptext
I'm not saying that it's the best solution, you can add \protected in
front of the \def if needed.
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Re: [NTG-context] extra lines in PDF annotations
On 3/13/2023 4:22 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: On 3/13/23 16:06, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: Dear list, using current latest from 2023.03.10 12:18, I have this XML sample: I apologize, XML source doesn’t have lines inside, such as in: I hope EOLs are fine now. dunno ... no full example so ... Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Did dotless i disappear ?
On 3/13/2023 4:28 PM, Otared Kavian via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Hans,
I just noticed that the dotless i « \i » is not anymore recognized in ConTeXt.
Of course one can nowadays find other ways to have it typeset, but in old
documents which are included as inputs one has to correct this manually (for
instance in French « connaître » was typed as « conn\^{\i}tre »).
Here is an example.
\starttext
Bío Bío (works fine…)
B\'{\i}o B\'{\i}o % this gives an error
\stoptext
I'll add checking for the \i too. It's all part of a parser. Think
\chr {e acute}
\chr {i circumflex}
\^{i} \^i \^{\i}
\^{a} \"{a}
\withcircumflex{a}
\withdiaeresis{a}
a bit messy code due to reuse of all kin dof mechanisms.
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in maths environment: thematrix
On 3/9/2023 2:45 PM, Otared Kavian via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Hans,
I noticed that in some situations the command \thematrix does not show all its
arguments correctly: some parts are omitted in the typeset formula. In some
occasions adding some groupings solves the issue, but not always. I noticed
this bug two weeks ago, but could not produce a minimal example until now…
Please see below, in particular the output for the matrices M_1, M_2 and M_3…
Best regards: Otared
% begin bug-thematrix.tex
\starttext
\startformula
M_{1}(t)
:= \thematrix{{\rm e}^s ; {\rm e}^t}, \qquad
B_{1}(t) := \thematrix{1 , {\rm e}^t},
\stopformula
\startformula
M_{2}(t)
:= \thematrix{{{\rm e}^s} , {{\rm e}^t}}, \qquad
B_{2}(t) := \thematrix{0 ; {{\rm e}^t}},
\stopformula
\startformula
M_{3}(t)
= \thematrix{{\rm e}^s, {\rm e}^t ; 0 , {\rm e}^t}.
\stopformula
\startformula
M_{4}(t)
= \thematrix{1, {{\rm e}^t} + 1 ; 0 , {{\rm e}^t}}.
\stopformula
\stoptext
% end bug-thematrix.tex
i have a fix but there will be no uploads till texlive has been frozen /
packages
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] [ TEXpage empty lines ]
On 3/8/2023 5:29 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: \null\\ I prefer \crlf because \null is well, can you guess? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Typeset multiple pictures not in a strict matrix (\startfloatcombination)
On 3/7/2023 6:54 PM, Gerion Entrup via ntg-context wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to typeset several pictures as a floatcombination but not in
the form of strict cells of a matrix.
Here is some ASCII art to demonstrate the positions of the pictures:
---
| |
| |
---
a) Some caption
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| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
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b) fooc) foo
Figure 1.1: Foo Bar
I tried to typeset it with this code (based on
https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/502903):
\useMPlibrary[dum]
\setupcombinations[alternative=text]
\definefloat[subfigure][local=yes]
\setupcaption[subfigure][numberconversion=a]
\setuplabeltext[subfigure=]
\appendvalue{stopplacefigure}{\resetcounter[subfigure]}
\starttext
\startplacefigure[title=Test]
\startfloatcombination[nx=1, ny=2]
\startplacesubfigure[title=Test]
\externalfigure[dummy][width=4cm,height=1cm]
\stopplacesubfigure
\startfloatcombination[nx=2, ny=1]
\startplacesubfigure[title=Test]
\externalfigure[dummy][width=4cm,height=1cm]
\stopplacesubfigure
\startplacesubfigure[title=Test]
\externalfigure[dummy][width=4cm,height=1cm]
\stopplacesubfigure
\stopfloatcombination
\stopfloatcombination
\stopplacefigure
\stoptext
However, this does not work (the pictures are all in one row).
Do you have some advice?
you can cheat:
\startplacefigure[title=Test]
\bTABLE[frame=off]
\bTR
\bTD[nx=2,align=middle,offset=overlay]
\dontleavehmode\externalfigure[dummy-1][width=4cm,height=1cm]
\eTD
\eTR
\bTR[toffset=1ex]
\bTD[nx=2,align=middle]
% \placefloatcaption[figure][title=foo]
a) foo
\eTD
\eTR
\bTR[toffset=2ex]
\bTD[align=middle,offset=overlay]
\externalfigure[dummy-2][width=4cm,height=1cm]
\eTD
\bTD[align=middle,offset=overlay]
\externalfigure[dummy-3][width=4cm,height=1cm]
\eTD
\eTR
\bTR[toffset=1ex]
\bTD[align=middle]
% \placefloatcaption[figure][title=foo]
b) foo
\eTD
\bTD[align=middle]
% \placefloatcaption[figure][title=foo]
c) foo
\eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE
\stopplacefigure
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Re: [NTG-context] [ TEXpage empty lines ]
On 3/8/2023 9:29 AM, Floris van Manen via ntg-context wrote: Does any one know an answer? When wrapping a page in \startTEXpage the empty lines disappear. There is probably a reason to it. Any hints as to remove that difference? .Floris e.g. \starttext een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ \\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ \\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ \stoptext vs \starttext \startTEXpage[offset=10mm] een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ \\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ \\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven\\ \stopTEXpage \stoptext \starttext \startlines een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven \stoplines \startTEXpage[offset=10mm] \startlines een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven \stoplines \stopTEXpage \stoptext - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] /CropBox overflows /MediaBox
On 3/6/2023 7:02 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: But I’m afraid that it is wrong to have a /TrimBox larger than the /MediaBox for the same page. Afaik the standard permits is to one gets what one asks. I will add some checks plus a warning and hopefully not break something. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] cannot compile with MkIV
On 3/6/2023 7:46 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: Dear list, I have the following sample: \starttext \null \stoptext Trying to compile it with "context --luatex", I get the error message copied bellow. Could anyone confirm that the format file for MkIV (LuaTeX) cannot be generated with current latest (from today [2023.03.06 14:48])? hm, looks like we have an older luatex than context expects, i'll check it (we probably need to let the builders fetch from the new luatex source location) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Disappearing footnote in figure / tabulate
On 3/2/2023 11:49 AM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: Ok, I’ve somehow managed to isolate the issue in my real document. There, the issue happens only when a new paragraph starts after the tabulate. If there’s nothing after the tabulate, the footnotes appears... Also, if I’m using location=page, the footnote will also appear. That’s what I’m using now, so there’s no urgency for me now. (But does that maybe already indicate the source of the issue ?) Anyway, I still find the behaviour somewhat weird. I’ll try to come up with a MWE. Any hints how to best proceed are still highly appreciated. i need to deal with insert migrations in xtables ... will do Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Float control
On 2/28/2023 11:45 AM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:
Hi everyone,
I’ve recently had to typeset a document that gave me some headaches with
the floats. The floats where jumping around, appearing in a different
order than in the source file, tables ended up split up at weird points,
some positioning keys had not the intended effect (e.g. top), «page»
moved the float more than seemed necessary for me... I know, TeX’s float
positioning algorithm should be rather reliable and stable, and it’s
quite possible that I’m messing things up in my setups–especially since
my source files are XML.
Anyway, I’d like to learn more about the whole float issue. Is there
anything particular I could read to learn more about the whole thing?
Maybe I’m missing out on something fundamental...
Basically floats are output in order when they fit. You can use force to
really do that. When there is no room they will migrate. Some options
like top and bottom might also change the order. Normally you start with
just placing ('here') and see how that works out. Side floats are
special and anchored to the text.
The more complex and confliuctign the demands, the harder it gets for
ConTeXt to fulfill all requirements. In that case shifting around the
text or places where you ask for a float helps. It's one of the areas
where 'fully automated and perfect' are complex as everything can
interfere.
Btw, Mikael S is working on a tutorial that explains some neat trickery
with specific placements (which also triggered some additional features).
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] /CropBox overflows /MediaBox
On 2/28/2023 6:23 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: Dear list, I have the following source: \nopdfcompression \setupinteractionscreen [width=max] \setuplayout [standard] [backspace=.7\textwidth, cutspace=\cutspace, width=middle] \starttext \startmakeup[page] \null \stopmakeup \startmakeup[standard] \null \stopmakeup \stoptext Boxes are defined in the following objects: 3 0 obj [ 0 0 595.275590072 841.88975789 ] endobj 5 0 obj [ 0 0 595.27559 841.889758 ] endobj 8 0 obj [ 0 0 968.199847 841.889758 ] endobj Page 1 has /MediaBox redirected to object 3 and /CropBox redirected to object 5. Page 2 has /MediaBox redirected to object 3 and /CropBox redirected to object 8. I’m not sure whether the oversized /CropBox in the sample above is a bug triggered by the use of "\setupinteractionscreen[width=fit]". From the PDF–1.7 specification (https://opensource.adobe.com/dc-acrobat-sdk-docs/standards/pdfstandards/pdf/PDF32000_2008.pdf#page=636): The crop, bleed, trim, and art boxes shall not ordinarily extend beyond the boundaries of the media box. If they do, they are effectively reduced to their intersection with the media box. https://wiki.contextgarden.net/PDF_Boxes displays an image of (what I guess) the ordinary case: /CropBox fits inside /MediaBox. Could anyone be so kind to confirm the issue or to explain the rationale behind the oversized /CropBox? different code path (dates from mkiv but i can adapt it for lmtx) anyway, overflow is in the 7th decimal so quite harmless i guess Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Can ConTeXt display a simple itemized list as a comma-separated list?
On 2/25/2023 5:01 PM, Joel via ntg-context wrote: I have a list like this: \startitemize[1] \item fish \item eggs \item milk \stopitemize Is there any command in ConTeXt to make this display the items as a comma-separated list, like this: fish, eggs, milk Or a semi-colon-separated list? fish; eggs; milk In the next update you can set a textseparator. \starttext \startitemize[none,text][textseparator=;] \item fish \item eggs \item milk \stopitemize \defineitemgroup [fooditems] \setupitemgroup [fooditems] [each] [none,text] [textseparator=;] \blank[2*line] \startfooditems \item fish \item eggs \item milk \stopfooditems \stoptext - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
