Re: [NTG-context] seeking 'hello world' example for Arabic typesetting with conTeXt
On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 02:48:13 -0700, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/30 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد isha...@colostate.edu: What we need is for new users to be able to say, eg, \setmainlanguage[arabic] \setupdirections[bidi=global] % maybe this should be implied by \setmainlanguage[arabic] \starttext أهلا بالعالم! \stoptext And get Scheharezade without doing anything else. Maybe we can put the fonts as an extra module . Why a seperate module? It's an Open Font License. Why add unnecessary extra work for users, especially new ones? Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shiʿi Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] seeking 'hello world' example for Arabic typesetting with conTeXt
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:03:06 -0700, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: I've to dig for it, I'm sure it is there somewhere. However, I've long abandoned the idea of improving Scheherezade and instead concentrating on my own (Amiri) font, but it does not work with MkIV right now (and vowel marks are half done), so it is not a replacement yet. I do plan for a simplified version of Amiri that would fulfil the original goal of the modified Scheherezade font (and also developed in a way that works with most of the current broken OpenType implementations, unlike the current Amiri) and that one would be suitable as a default font, but this is months away at best. OK: In that case, let's include the standard Scheharezade as is in the minimals until another unicode-complete font comes along. It has an Open Font License so should be no problem. Miojca: Till then, where do you suggest placing Scheharezade in the tree? Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shiʿi Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 10+ reasons why I still use MKII
On Thu, 13 May 2010 10:00:01 -0500, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 13-5-2010 4:32, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 04:16:12PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: On 13-5-2010 3:42, Mojca Miklavec wrote: \startyoumayignorethis The only thing that really bothers me are so much different vertical differences which show up in almost every document I ever write. MKIV consistently takes more vertical space, so no matter what document I try to recompile, it always ends up with more pages (and some weird page breaks) when processing it with MKIV. \startcantresistmode the lineheight relates to the ex height and as in mkiv we don't have the tfm limitations (those 16 values of ht dp) we have slightly different spacing Something I find very annoying is variable interline spacing, if I've, for example, a line with some Arabic words vocalized I get some times too much white space above it that it almost looks like an empty line. It makes the page look like crap. Is there a way to force fixed interline spacing? Can you give an example? turn turn grid on .. but even then, we need some nice heuristic for determing the right ht/dp ratio for arabic (can be set up) I have some nice texts that illustrate a standard balance, but I'd like to see what Khaled has in mind exactly before I comment further... Peace Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] wikipedians: kind request
On Thu, 13 May 2010 14:19:52 -0500, Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hans_Hagen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Taco_Hoekwater Don't these people have a life at all? What a bunch of puny trolls Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 10+ reasons why I still use MKII
On Thu, 13 May 2010 15:06:09 -0500, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org
wrote:
Something I find very annoying is variable interline spacing, if I've,
for example, a line with some Arabic words vocalized I get some times
too much white space above it that it almost looks like an empty line.
It makes the page look like crap. Is there a way to force fixed
interline spacing?
Can you give an example?
turn turn grid on .. but even then, we need some nice heuristic
for determing the right ht/dp ratio for arabic (can be set up)
I have some nice texts that illustrate a standard balance, but I'd
like to see what Khaled has in mind exactly before I comment
further...
Nothing special, I always expect interline space to be fixed, I don't
know if TeX always make interline spacing variable, but this wasn't an
issue with English text. However, with Arabic, Tashkil marks seems to
always cause a noticeable extra whitespace above the line.
See the uneven distribution of vertical whitespace in this example (it
can be even worse than this in reality):
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[Arabic Typesetting][features=arabic]
\starttext
\pardir TRT\textdir TRT
\dorecurse{10}{\dorecurse{20}{نص عربي } نَصُّ مُشكَّل \dorecurse{20}{نص
عربي}}
\stoptext
I used to find this annoying years ago but today I look at it as a good
feature. In your \definebodyfontenvironment you just have to define a good
interlinespace. Presumably the one picked up from the font by luatex is
not high enough.
In my journal, I used to use \struttedbox's (or something similarly named)
to suppress this when mixing english and arabic...
Professionally mixed latin-arabic texts often adjust the interline
spacing, especially when arabic is introduced into latin paragraphs. This
is almost unavoidable since making arabic-script readable and matchable to
latin involves a larger relative size for aesthetic optics.
Sometimes forcing will look nice, but even then one probably has to add a
bit of interlinespace to the latin font to get the right balance. That is,
a latin document that uses a LOT of interparagraph arabic will want a bit
extra interlinespace to begin with, so that forcing will generally give
good results.
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] Typographical Engineering in Context
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 02:40:29 -0600, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 avr. 2010, at 19:00, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: News flash: it's already there! See attached. Hi Idriss, That's wonderful! :-) Could you please tell us what font you have used It's very experimental at the moment, but I hope to have a release by the end of this year or earlier ... still working on the details of how to release it etc... and give us the font features turned on to get that kind of coloring and « kashide »? Those are not font features, but rather a goodies package by Hans that allows one to set glyphs for coloring. The trick in this case is that I separate the main shapes from the dots in the font, otherwise this won't work with any other arabic font afaik. Can you send an example ConTeXt file that produces what you sent as a png file? It's part of a larger file, and somewhat useless as a sample for a moment, but I'll contact you offlist for some discussion about it if u're interested. :-) Peace Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Salaam, Khaled, On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:44:55 -0700, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: IIRC, I reported all of that months ago but I usually get no answer. Are you sure about that? A quick check shows answers...eg http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080816.075921.0f92a2d3.en.html In any case: Can you provide minimal samples of problems with the current mechanism? I have a bidi test-suite that I will revisit but some sample files from you will help too. One sample-per-problem would be a help. :-) :-) سلام Idris PS Some of these problems have been on the backburner but there is already a TON of other things on the plate so ... I use formatting characters + mirroring in the meantime ... I -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Offtopic: a gift for Luigi
Dear gang, Here is a gift for our favorite off-topic expert: Typography Fans Say Ikea Should Stick to Furniture http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/05/arts/design/05ikea.html?hp Hans, you have to replace all your IKEA furniture now... Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: [XeTeX] List of free Unicode fonts
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:40:49 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 29.08.2009 um 20:06 schrieb Derek CORDEIRO: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Mohamed Bana mbana.li...@googlemail.comwrote: i had no idea that the free ver. of minion pro came with small caps an od st nums. I don't think its really free. If you download, you will be told so: *Note:* The Font Pack software contained in this package is being licensed to you solely for use with Adobe® Reader® software (Adobe Reader) and is subject to the terms and conditions of the electronic End-User License Agreement accompanying your version Adobe Reader. The question wether you can use the fonts with other programs than Adobe Reader was asked a few times in different lists and the only useful answer i found is the following: http://www.typeforum.de/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlethold=-1mode=flatorder=0sid=259 Err, can you provide at least a 1-sentence summary in English? :-) IANAL, but TeX users will mostly be using the font only with Adobe Reader/Acrobat anyway. So as long as you don't use gs or xpdf :D [What a nonsensical rule, I doubt it's enforceable] Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Intro to Luatex
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:35:33 -0600, John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote: Luatex has a lot of features that Context doesn't. Where is the best place to start learning about it? Category mistake: luatex is an engine, like pdftex and xetex :-) luatex is one of three official engines that context can use: MkII: pdftex,xetex MkIV: luatex MkII is frozen afaik: MkIV is the main development branch. Eventually MkIV will _be_ Context for all practical purposes. The most obvious thing MkIV gives you at the moment is advanced control of OpenType fonts. For developers, lua provides advanced scripting and extensibility. see also http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Mark_IV http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mk.pdf Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Footnotes and body text
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:26:31 -0600, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky yatskov...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Looks like my previous message was overlooked. Let mecry again. ^^^ = try That's what we call a Freudian slip in English ;-) In my document footnotes' upper line clashes with body text. In result, last line of body text looks underlined. Please, take a look at the attachment. I've run into this before. Play with \setupfootnotes[before=\vskip1ex] Although I suppose may be a bug in mkiv, since this spacing should be automatic. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Change whitespace before item?
Wolfgang answered your main question, so that leaves On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:41:26 -0600, U Avalos amscopub-m...@yahoo.com wrote: How can I get a question answered on this list, BTW? Very simple: politely send the question a second time if you don't get a response. I've had to do that many times myself in the past, no one is priveleged here... It seems that no one either knows anything or are too busy for simple questions. People are busy, and no one necessarily reads every single mail. It is a busy list after all. But see above. FYI, devs, this language is going to die if you don't get more users Who says we don't get more users? Best wishes -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Change whitespace before item?
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:13:02 -0600, Stéphane Goujet stephane.gou...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Simple questions from end-users are barely answered while questions from developpers/people with experience are generaly answered and generate rather long threads. This is simply not true AFAICT. I've been around for years and my questions were not always answered immediately or on a first try. And I've seen newbies whose questions generated very long answers/threads. If you don't get an immediate/timely answer, politely post a second or even third time if necessary. As I said earlier, there are no privileged users on this list. Key: politeness and persistence :-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Change whitespace before item?
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:13:02 -0600, Stéphane Goujet stephane.gou...@wanadoo.fr wrote: I have tried posting questions once or twice and I never got a single answer. The result is that, now, I do not post them here any more. Just try again and don't take it personally. That's what I've done for years. As a last resort, write Hans, Taco or whoever is most relevant to your question directly and say, I've posted this to the list a couple of times and have not goten an answer yet. Could you take a look? Key: politeness and persistence :-) The developers are very busy, well, developing. Be patient with them. The flow of development/high level messages (that I do not understand) is important, too important for me to see and possibly try to answer most end-users questions. Perhaps it would be time to split this mailing-list in 2 parts, one really for users and the other for developpers, beta testers, package programmers, etc. That has already been done ;-) But understand that ConTeXt is a HUGE system, and hardly anyone understands it all. Of course, the drawback of doing this is that the gurus will not be interested in following the users' list and will be kept busy with other lists, so they will not be present to enlighten beginners. In my experience this is simply not the case. One could create at least one book out of, say, Wolfgang's answers to newbies and users in general [actually, that might not be such a bad idea]. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] RTF to ConTeXt
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:30:02 -0600, Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote: I have a RTF document I like to convert to a ConTeXt document. Are there tools for this? I would also like the other way around, but I understood that this is only possible through ConTeXt - PDF - RTF, or has the situation changed. step 1: odt2txt.py step 2: pandoc Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] math and palatino
Hi Aditya, On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:03:44 -0600, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote: The math fonts compatible with Palatino are px math and math paza ConTeXt only has support for px math. ok, good to know... [I rarely use math these past few years] [Hint: it's not LM] I had to roll my own typescript so what I need to fill in is the commented line below \definetypeface [pagella_ar] [rm] [serif] [pagella_arabic] % [pagella_arabic] % \definetypeface [pagella_ar] [mm] [math] [palatino] [default] Uncommenting the above gives me an incomplete math font Currently, no math font in mkiv is complete. Which specific glyphs are missing for you? \alpha The easiest opiton is to use asana math, which is an otf math font based on px fonts. \starttypescript [math] [asana] [name] \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [name:Asana-Math] [features=math\mathsizesuffix] \stoptypescript and then \definetypeface [pagella_ar] [mm] [math] [asana] [default] LuaTeX warning (file C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-project/fonts/data/asana/Asana-Math.otf): Type2 Charstring Parser: Unknown charstring operator: 0x00 !LuaTeX error (file C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-project/fonts/data/asana/Asana-Math.otf): Type2 Charstring Parser: Parsing charstring failed: (status=-1, stack=0) == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced! Have any of you run into this before? If this is a showstopper, then a fallback will have to do. Have any of you made fallbacks for math fonts? Are there any subtleties compared to regular fonts? What is the unicode slot for math \alpha? that does not look good. Any ideas on getting this right? I also find px math ugly (although I did use it for my thesis). math pazo is not much better, it uses most of the symbols from cm. There is a commerical math from micropress that is supposed to be compatible with palatino, but I have never used it myself. Is there an otf euler option? No. Also keep in mind that euler is no where close to being a complete math font. Mkii used a virtual font that took missing symbols from px math and cm. I have a local half baked support for Euler, which uses missing symbols from iwona. I can send the patch if you want to experiment with it. Thanks! time is very short, although I like Euler and think it would work for palatino... maybe we need to get the gyre people on it for the future:-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] math and palatino
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:03:44 -0600, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote: What is the best available math font for use with Pagella/Palatino? The math fonts compatible with Palatino are px math and math paza ConTeXt only has support for px math. Turns out that cambria is preset in mkiv and works, so I'll use that for now. I filed a report about the asana error so hopefully that will be solved as well. [I use math so little I had completely forgotten about cambria]. Thanks, Aditya! Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] math and palatino
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:06:07 -0600, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu
wrote:
LuaTeX warning (file
C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-project/fonts/data/asana/Asana-Math.otf): Type2
Charstring Parser: Unknown charstring operator: 0x00
!LuaTeX error (file
C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-project/fonts/data/asana/Asana-Math.otf): Type2
Charstring Parser: Parsing charstring failed: (status=-1, stack=0)
== Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
Have any of you run into this before?
No. I am using the minimals from 2009.05.26, and asana math works fine.
Are you using the latest version of the font from
http://openfontlibrary.org/media/files/asyropoulos/219
seems the same date as
http://www.ctan.org/get/fonts/Asana-Math/Asana-Math.otf
+
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.41.0-2009061016
I reported this to Taco so we'll see what he says...
If this is a showstopper, then a fallback will have to do. Have any of
you
made fallbacks for math fonts? Are there any subtleties compared to
regular
fonts? What is the unicode slot for math \alpha?
Basic greek should work in math. I cannot get the latest minimals right
now (slow internet connection), but px math and lm math use the same code
to generate virtual fonts, so px math should work in the latest minimals.
Using the predefined
[mm] [math] [palatino]
You can test these formulas in px-math:
\starttext
\startformula
Y=AK^{\alpha{}}L^{1-\alpha{}} \eqno(1)
\stopformula
\startformula
y-l=a+\alpha(k-l) \eqno(2)
\stopformula
\startformula
a = (y-l) - \alpha{} (k-l) \eqno(3)
\stopformula
\startformula
A = (3-7)-(0.3) (5-3) = 3.4
\stopformula
\alpha{}
\stoptext
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
[NTG-context] math and palatino
Dear gang, [mkiv only] What is the best available math font for use with Pagella/Palatino? [Hint: it's not LM] I had to roll my own typescript so what I need to fill in is the commented line below \definetypeface [pagella_ar] [rm] [serif] [pagella_arabic] % [pagella_arabic] % \definetypeface [pagella_ar] [mm] [math] [palatino] [default] Uncommenting the above gives me an incomplete math font that does not look good. Any ideas on getting this right? Is there an otf euler option? Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] structure bugs: \nomarking
Hi,
As we discussed, I'm submitting structure bugs as we move along to get
this manuscript to the publisher. \nomarking fails:
! Undefined control sequence.
\@@mklimittext -\@@kolimittext
\doifelse #1#2-\edef \!!stringa {#1
}\edef \!!stringb {#2}\ifx \!!stringa
\!...
\splitsequence #1#2-\doifelse {#1}\v!no
{#2}{\doifelse {#1}\v!yes
{\languag...
l.1 ...\nomarking {it extends way past the margin}
\sectionheadmarkingtitle ...arks.title(#1,#2)}
\fetchmark ...sname \??mk \??mk #3\endcsname {#1}}
\fi \fi
...
l.5
?
test file attached
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
test-marking.tex
Description: TeX document
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:05:07 -0600, Kevin D. Robbins krobb...@alumni.princeton.edu wrote: Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test this option. If you want something really comfortable for Windows users, try the Notepad++ setup: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Image:Npp_ConTeXt-Uni.zip I don't have Vista, which uses a different dir structure for the files, but you can easily adopt this as needed. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MS Word/HTML examples needed
Hi, On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:21:00 -0600, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky yatskov...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Seems that my GUI-based Word-to-Text converter didn't gain much attention, but that's OK. Sorry, I did not catch that post earlier... but I'm very interested indeed! My minimal needs involve entire documents with footnotes, basically the current features of odt2txt: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown/odt2txt Unfortunately that script is a bit buggy... but a reliable word2context script with just those features alone would be a boon. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Font features
On Fri, 15 May 2009 00:21:58 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: \definefontfeature[onum][default][onum=yes] What is the second option for? \definefontfeature[onum][onum=yes] should work as well. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Hi Wolfgang, On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:54:50 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startchapter and the meanings of this params (some are obvious : title= ..., but not all). http://pragma-ade.nl/show-man-10.htm I did not see the ne sectioning there... Anyway \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data] Also, where in the base files does this stuff get defined? I could not find it. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:38 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data] Also, where in the base files does this stuff get defined? I could not find it. strc-sec.tex start/stop commands are created with \definehead automatically ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of [optional user data] :-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:31:27 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster
schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 29.04.2009 um 20:23 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد:
ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of
[optional user data]
\setuphead[title][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand]
\define[2]\TitleCommand
{\startframedtext[frame=off,width=\hsize,align=middle]
#2\hairline
\structureuservalue{author}\hfill\structureuservalue{date}
\stopframedtext}
\starttext
\startchapter[title={How to make Idris happy?},reference={sec:happy}]
[author={Wolfgang Schuster},date=\currentdate]
It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he is
happy.
See \in{section}[sec:happy] at \at{page}[sec:happy].
\stopchapter
\stoptext
Are you now happy?
Indeed I am :D
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] Producing dvi
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 07:39:58 -0600, Michail Vidiassov mas...@iaas.msu.ru wrote: If mkiv does not produce dvi (now? never will? not intended to?), what about mkii? sure, mkii can produce dvi for several drivers And what about the first part of the question? mkiv does not now, probably never will, and is not intended, to support dvi ;-) dvi is considered obsolete. Maybe newer technologies like xps -- which claims better integration with opentype etc -- will be supported sometime down the road... no time soon. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Arabic protrosion
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:40:12 -0600, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: The attached patch adds Arabic coma, semicolon, full stop (used in Urdu) and question mark to font-ext.lua for protrusion. Now, combined with glyph expansion, I don't get any overfull boxes. Arabic-script microtypography is one of the cornerstones of the Oriental TeX project. We've been studying this matter for some time now: Because of a) the normal wide spacing around Arabic punctuation, and b) the large size of Arabic punctuation relative to Latin, I'm not sure that protrusion of Arabic-script punctuation is a good idea. It needs a lot of thought, and a lot of testing, before adding it to the system. As for glyph expansion, I don't see how that works at all with the current model, except perhaps with very horizontal fonts. But in that case all that's needed is smart tatweel, not glyph expansion. For hq fonts the current glyph expansion model will mess up the contextual connections. Although one can certainly do things with the current model of protrusion and hz, we need more, much more. Khaled, send me some tests off-list and I'll examine them in light of the overall analysis as we prepare for adding Arabic microtypography support, hopefully pretty soon. Thanks plenty for the contributions, and سلام Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bug with Adobe Arabic font kerning
On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:24:36 -0600, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: The font seems to have a buggy (too big) GPOS kerning table (it does cause fontforge to hang writing the font). If 'kern' is set to 'yes', I get this error: ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/node-inj.lua:62: attempt to index local 'kb' (a nil value) I had to put if..then around that line to suppress the error, may be some checks are needed for such broken fonts. i don't get that error (might be catched already in my version) but indeed the font has weird kerning The VOLT sources for Adobe Arabic are freely available: http://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/2007/06/adobe_arabic_sa.html Looking at the kerning, it appears at first glance to be contextual single adjustment kerning that's messing things up. Will make some test files this week sigh. Basically, Single Adjustment uses the advance width parameter alone, with dx/dy=0. This should move the right sidebearing of an initial arabic char to the right while leaving the left one alone. In pair adjustment Arabic kerning generally sets dx=c=width. mkiv supports the latter but not the former. I'll continue this discussion with Hans off list. It's a weird font -- all due respect to Tim Halloway the designer *** -- but very complete in many ways. A good test case for mkiv. Best wishes Idris *** Arabic Palatino by Zapf looks really weird too. -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \framed (and others) don't honor directional switches
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:08:48 -0600, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
you can comment this in cont-new.mkiv
% \def\pagedir{\expandafter\gobblethreearguments}
% \def\bodydir{\expandafter\gobblethreearguments}
i'm trying to figure out what dirs make sense (even when all are
enabled the alignment is no 100% ok; for instance, why should bodydir
influence textdir and pardir (i.e. when i would expect the content to be
rl independent of page/bodydir
(we need some higher level interface and not these low level *dir
commands)
Indeed. We may also need Taco's help; he's about the only one I know who
precisely understands the distinction between \pardir and \bodydir. I did
some extensive testing on this nearly two years ago and could hardly make
sense of it. The user should never have to touch \pardir or \bodydir and
we need a higher level command. Not sure if the same will work at the
macro level.
I'll search for Taco's old detailed explanations of these two and forward
them to you and Khalid.
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] Affiliation change
On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 01:40:26 -0600, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: As Arthur emailed me already: you people are just too gullible ! :) Actually, I guessed that it was a joke in the first few minutes after receiving it .. It was a well-staged prank, but your talk of selling the bib module gave you away... I was really surprised that Wolfgang fell for it... :-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] more stretch
Hi, On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:49:57 -0600, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky yatskov...@gmail.com wrote: How to instruct TeX to relax and allow more spacing between words (or more stretching?) \setuptolerance .. options in the manual Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] recurse bug?
Dear gang,
The following, using the latest beta, moves the last recurse to the next
page:
\setuplayout
[lines=12]
\starttext \pardir TRT
\dorecurse{12}{This is a recursive line. \crlf}
\stoptext
so we get only 11 lines on page 1. Is this a bug?
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] substitutions: can i send this?
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:05:03 -0600, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org
wrote:
(I know this an old thread, but I just happen to exactly the same
feature Idris was asking for)
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:53:47AM +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
usage: ruby scriptname.rb input.tex output.tex
#!/usr/bin/env ruby
subs_hash = {
Mohamed = Muḥammad,
Idris = ادريس,
}
while line = STDIN.gets
subs_hash.each do |key,value|
line.gsub!(Regexp.new(key), value)
end
puts line
end
Such approach has a major disadvantage, one have to take care of not
altering macros and tex commands or we may end with a broken document (I
have more general use case where the to be substituted strings can
occur in macros as well), and we know that only TeX can read TeX :)
I'm thinking in lua callback that get fed with text buffers in a similar
way to OTPs, so one can use regular expressions to pre-process the text
without messing with node list, think in code that replaces 2nd with
2\high{nd} etc. which would be very complex to be done at node list
level.
If it's not so complex, have you considered overloading font features with
fea files? Now that Adobe has (finally!) completed a major overhaul of the
spec, including the features neeeded for arabic, that's an option.
But for your more complex needs, see the m-translate module. Maybe that
can be developed further? Note that Hans has pointed out that this is NOT
a core module and that it is preferable to fix the source beforehand.
سلام
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] typescript repository
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:27:09 -0600, Bruce D'Arcus bdarcus.li...@gmail.com wrote: c) that there's no reason at all to make a distinction between free and professional fonts in such a repository I absolutely agree with Bruce on this point :-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing custom fonts?
Hi Pierre, On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:51:31 -0600, Pierre Huyghebaert pie...@speculoos.com wrote: Quite new in the TeX field, and having traveled a bit through LaTex and Xetex, I couln't figure how to make it work. Given Mojca's comments, have you considered luatex/mkiv instead of xetex? That will give you working and supported higher-level control of opentype fonts etc etc. It sounds like you're willing to experiment, in which case mkiv might be worth spending some time with. I typeset an acedmic journal with it as well. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Making necessary OpenType features on by default
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:41:39 -0700, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: Not too bad a font. Like Lotus, it works best at smaller text sizes, not greater than 12 point. The فلله lig should be off by default, there are other Arabic word combinations that use that combo that have nothing to do with الله. I can't think in any other word on top of my head, فَلَّلَهُ he notched or broke it in many places but I'm fine with making it a 'dlig' instead, it isn't very common any way. sure Next steps: 1. Can I add some fixes to this thing as well or would you like to keep 100% maintainance? 2. I can try to put in some time in the coming weeks to develop this into a default setup for ConTeXt-mkiv -- per recent discussions -- or I can leave that to you/Otared and just review the results. Just let me know how you would like to proceed. Of course you are welcomed, actually I won't have much free time till the end of march, it'd be nice if you can work on it. Ok, let's say whoever gets to it first in the next few days and weeks :-) سلام Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Making necessary OpenType features on by default
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:02:39 -0700, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: I'm not very fond if Scheherazade as it has many wrong glyphs (most of the Quranic glyphs are completely wrong) and it doesn't even have an الله ligature, which most Arabic users won't accept. There is a hadith لا يسقط الميسور بالمعسور Scheherazade is certainly not perfect -- and I doubt I'll ever use it personally -- but it's the best freely available option we have. If I understand the license correctly, we can rename it and turn it into a project. You, Otared, and others are expressing the need for a standard, default interface, so let's start with this and build on it. If there is another pure opentype font that is better, let me know and I'll test it. The key point is that SIL has taken care to support nearly every Arabic-script language, not just Arabic, so this gives us a platform that all Arabic-script users can use by default until other free fonts -- or a fork of Scheherazade -- become available. BTW: There is an الله lig in Scheherazade -- rather unattractive, but it's there. Maybe you have an old version? I was experimenting with a modified version that fixes those issues, but I gave up since the font lacks any contextual forms but the basic four ones and extending the font the way it is designed proved to be cumbersome and very error prone. I'm not sure if the VOLT sources are available, although I used a font-to-volt script that seems to have captured nearly everything. I guess you use FF but no matter: Just make a list of problems and the minimal -- as opposed to ideal -- set of recommended changes and one or both of us can work on this over the next few months. I would also look at Lotus Light -- a simple/simplistic yet probably the most commonly used commercial traditional font in the Arabic and Farsi worlds -- as an ideal default font for general usage. Khaled, note that, although Lotus also has a few contextual forms, in practice it is generally used by publishers without them. BTW: The above is solely for the purposes that Khaled and Otared are pointing out, viz, a default Very High Level Interface for default Arabic script, for use by the average user for general documents, and with little-to-no tweaking. Otherwise, Scheherazade is virtually useless for my own projects. If it is needed, I can clean the font and provide it to be included in the minimal distribution temporarily, as I hope that we'll have a viable alternative by the end of this year. See the above... make a list of errors in the font and we'll both work on it one way or other. Back to Lotus: I suggest to you and Otared the following project: develop Scheherazade into a free alternative to Lotus. Lotus is that is as close to a pure OpenType font as we are going to easily get. Although it supports less of Arabic-script unicode than Scheherazade, it is a standard in the Arabic-script publishing world. So if our default interface supports Lotus and Scheherazade out of the box, we will be well on our way to what you guys are looking for. سلام ادريس سماوي Idris Samawi -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Making necessary OpenType features on by default
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:51:13 -0700, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:56:07AM -0700, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: So just start with Arabic, then Farsi, and forget the rest for now. No need for perfection at the outset ;-) Actually, I suggest forgetting about ligatures etc. for now, and just get the basics done for Scheherazade. We can work on ligatures etc later. OK, here is an initial version. The glyphs are scaled up since Scheherazade is tiny, fixed الله ligature, added لله and فلله ligatures as well, fixed the swash kaf and the Sindi meem and a bunch of Quranic marks as well: http://www.khaledhosny.org/files/simplenaskhi.zip Ok, thnx, Khaled. I looked at it: The الله is infinitely better, but does not quite match the rest -- the shaddah is way too big for it (or maybe the الله lig is too short). On closer inspection, I see that this is not the full الله lig, but a mix of the no-vowel version with the default shaddah. The actual FDF2 looks better. So there is still some OT work that needs to be done. I also have some poetry macros that might help, need to port them to the new system... Not too bad a font. Like Lotus, it works best at smaller text sizes, not greater than 12 point. The فلله lig should be off by default, there are other Arabic word combinations that use that combo that have nothing to do with الله. Next steps: 1. Can I add some fixes to this thing as well or would you like to keep 100% maintainance? 2. I can try to put in some time in the coming weeks to develop this into a default setup for ConTeXt-mkiv -- per recent discussions -- or I can leave that to you/Otared and just review the results. Just let me know how you would like to proceed. سلام Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Making necessary OpenType features on by default
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:03:56 -0700, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: I totally agree with you, more ever I hop that at some point in the future, just selecting certain language will be enough to get proper display of it, some thing like: \mainlanguage[arabic] \startext أهلا بالعالم! \stoptext Fonts will always be complicated... for what you are describing we need to start with a default Arabic-script font for TeX, like LM for Latin. My suggestion is to make Scheherazade that font, since it is free, distributable, and supports nearly all Arabic script languages. We could make two settings: one for Scheherazade as the LM fallback for the needed Ar-script ranges for unicode, another for Scheherazade as the main font, with Termes as Latin fallback. That will give us a benchmark from which to proceed with other fonts. If I get time I'll try to build typescripts etc for this scenario, or Khaled or someone else can take on this task, and I'll review it. Even Scheherazade has lots of options, and it will take some research to get the ideal default even here. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Making necessary OpenType features on by default
Hi Otared, On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 06:05:01 -0700, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote: If a humble opinion from an ordinary user may be issued, I agree with Khaled that it would be extremely useful to have some basic default settings for Arabic fonts, and even more generally for any particular fonts used for other languages. This would not prevent those specialist typesetters who want particular features to be turned on, to do so through appropriate mechanisms. sure, but it needs some thought. As I mentioned in my latest reply to Khaled, we can start with Scheherazade as an initial benchmark and proceed from there. As a basic user I am frustrated when using mkiv, that most declaration of features are completely cryptic, and not being a specialist of OTF or other font specifications, I don't know which features are essential for writing and typesetting an article in Persian or any language using Arabic alphabet. The difference -- I think -- is that xetex uses the system libraries. Uniscribe is not configurable, so you're stuck with however uniscribe interprets the ot features. snip %\font\Faarsi=Scheherazade*CrypticFeatures at 14pt % this does not work Hmm, I wonder why... The ideal situation would be: • in a document, when one sets a language then a certain font, with certain standard features is set by default; sure, I suggest Scheherazade • when an adapted font for that language is defined by the user, then certain features are set by default; that needs some research, for reasons Hans has explained. • possibly a command like \setupArabic[state=start] [...=...,features=...] (and the analogous settings for other languages such as \setupHanzi[state=start][...=...,features=...], and alike), could be imagined; sure Therefore, in the same spirit one should have some default allowing the user to write \setupArabic[state=start] \setupHanzi[state=start] \starttext goedmorgen Hans! This is some maths formula: $a^2+b^2 = c^2$. And this is some Arabic text written and typeset from right to left, in the midst of some English text: \startArabic سلام خالد، درود بر ادریس \stopArabic I understand that this can be done by each user upon defining his own environment and installing fonts, etc. But for the non specialist it is not that easy to understand the intricacies. For now the focus is getting OpenType and the mid-level interface solid, then we can focus on the high-level interface as you have described. OTOH, Getting Scheherazade (or some other mutually agreed-upon font) set up as default with a high-level interface should not be that hard. سلام Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Making necessary OpenType features on by default
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:54:51 -0700, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otfntdev/arabicot/features.htm :-) watch the The standard order for applying Arabic features encoded in OpenType fonts ... an earlier mkiv otf handler did this but then we found out that it violates the otf 'any order possible' rule so now we do just the order as we encounter it (and even then it took us a while to figure out where/how to avoid interferences); so ... it's up to the font designer (or technician) IIRC, the 'ccmp' should be applied before any other lookup, the rest are applied as they are ordered in the font, at least this makes sense more. It is not the order of the features, but the order of the lookups that really counts here. So, more precisely, the lookups in ccmp should be defined in the font before all other lookups. See also http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otfntdev/arabicot/shaping.htm http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otfntdev/arabicot/default.htm now, having init, medi, fina, isol, rlig enabled might be the default, but for instance arabtype output looks much better when instead of rlig we use calt/clig etc so, in that case the defaults would bot be the best choice; again an argument for a database approach Arabic Typesetting is a quit a special case font, though I believe that 'calt' and 'clig' should be on by default for any font. That's just it, there are so many exceptional cases it's not trivial to define a rule. Again, Scheherazade seems appropriate as a place to start... I will try to find some time in the next month to work on this, or someone can start and Hans and I can complete the module. there are even fonts out there that have the right gsub/gpos info but lack the feature being listed in the script/lang dictionary which is complicating live even more; maybe we should assume that the renderers of ms and adobe have some additional built in heuristics of using specific fonts Any links to such fonts? Looks interesting. Hans may be referring to hybrids like Traditional Arabic Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Making necessary OpenType features on by default
Hi, On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 06:05:01 -0700, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote: %\font\Faarsi=Scheherazade*CrypticFeatures at 14pt % this does not work The following works here: % engine=luatex \definefontfeature [scheherazade-test] [analyze=yes,mode=node, language=dflt,script=arab, ccmp=yes, init=yes,medi=yes,fina=yes, rlig=yes, calt=yes, salt=yes, curs=yes, mark=yes, mkmk=yes] \font \Scheherazademk = ScheherazadeRegOT*scheherazade-testat 28pt \setcharactermirroring[1] \noheaderandfooterlines \Scheherazademk \starttext سلام خالد، درود بر ادریس \stoptext -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Making necessary OpenType features on by default
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:57:22 -0700, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: Currently, when defining a font feature one has to enable all features by hand which is IMHO not very user friendly as it implies prior knowledge about OpenType font features and the meaning of each one, not every Arabic user, for example, knows what does 'init', 'medi, etc. ligatures mean yet to know that he must enable them to get proper font rendering. I think some font features should be on by default, so that \definefontfeature[script=arabic] should be enough to get an Arabic font rendered correctly with the default features as its designer intended (designers assume that certain will be on while other are off by default, like liga vs. dlig), and if some one wants to disable a certain default feature he can turn it off, not the reverse. Hmm, not sure if this is a good idea, see below. Microsoft's OpenType features list page (http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/features_ae.htm) gives a UI suggestion for each feature noting if it should be on by default, I think those are what most OpenType enable by default (at least the ones I tested). i've been thinking of a features=default option (as there is already features=yes|no) Maybe we can have a features=ms_arabic instead of defaulting to MS' recommendation. So in the final high-end user interface we can have keys like featureset=ms_arabic But I agree with Hans that this is a matter that needs more thought. For example, Traditional Arabic mixes OpenType and older M$ specs in Uniscribe, so just plugging in the default features that M$ suggests is not sufficient for, eg, vowel function in Tr Ar. Also, what about Arabic fonts on the mac, so they follow the same specs as M$? We've still got lots to do before settling on a very high-end interface so there is time to think about this some more... Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Making necessary OpenType features on by default
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:02:58 -0700, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: Microsoft's OpenType features list page (http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/features_ae.htm) gives a UI suggestion for each feature noting if it should be on by default, I think those are what most OpenType enable by default (at least the ones I tested). i've been thinking of a features=default option (as there is already features=yes|no) Maybe we can have a features=ms_arabic instead of defaulting to MS' recommendation. So in the final high-end user interface we can have keys like featureset=ms_arabic I think the 'ms' part is't really needed, we can just call itarabic, or are we going to have more Arabic feature sets? We are almost certainly going to have more :-) But I agree with Hans that this is a matter that needs more thought. For example, Traditional Arabic mixes OpenType and older M$ specs in Uniscribe, so just plugging in the default features that M$ suggests is not sufficient for, eg, vowel function in Tr Ar. That is beyond OpenType support, since Traditional Arabic is essentially broken at many levels, even when Uniscribe is used (vowel marks break lam-alef ligatures for example), Ms Arabic fonts are special case since they were developed long ago before OpenType and aren't the best examples. OTOH there are a lot of arabic fonts like this around that we want to support as well if we can... We a font categorization scheme to fit the most used fonts in the this regard. Also, what about Arabic fonts on the mac, so they follow the same specs as M$? AFAIK, Microsoft's Uniscribe is the reference OpenType implementation, and I assume that Apple's OpenType implementation follows its recommendations (I can't test that). This is something we should investigate... uniscribe is quirky in a few areas -- it does extra spell-checking beyond what Arabic actually needs, for example. That's one reason I'm not comfortable with using it as a default standard. Khaled: Have you considered making an inventory of available Arabic fonts? Or does one already exist? We could put together a table of what's available, checking for available OT features, etc. سلام Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Making necessary OpenType features on by default
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:10:52 -0700, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Khaled: Have you considered making an inventory of available Arabic fonts? Or does one already exist? We could put together a table of what's available, checking for available OT features, etc. also, it would be nice to have some quality otf arabic fonts in tex live Why not just include the SIL arabic fonts? http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsiitem_id=OFL-FAQ_web === 1.3 Can I make the fonts available to others from my web site? Yes, as long as you meet the conditions of the license (do not sell by itself, include the necessary files, rename Modified Versions, do not abuse the Author(s)' name(s) and do not sublicense). 1.4 Can the fonts be included with Free/Libre and Open Source Software collections such as GNU/Linux and BSD distributions? Yes! Fonts licensed under the OFL can be freely aggregated with software under FLOSS (Free/Libre and Open Source Software) licenses. Since fonts are much more useful aggregated to than merged with existing software, possible incompatibility with existing software licenses is not a problem. You can also repackage the fonts and the accompanying components in a .rpm or .deb package and include them in distro CD/DVDs and online repositories. === Seems similar enough to Texie licences for inclusion. [cc'ing karl] Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Making necessary OpenType features on by default
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:39:23 -0700, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: Microsoft's OpenType features list page (http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/features_ae.htm) gives a UI suggestion for each feature noting if it should be on by default, Hmm, I think this page is more relevant for what you have in mine: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otfntdev/arabicot/features.htm :-) سلام Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Arabic typesetting in Plain TeX over LuaTeX
Hi, On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:17:26 -0700, Ilda Khaki ilda.kh...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to compare the results of Arabic typesetting between different TeX engines to decide the best one. Can anyone send a samplwe file for typesetting Arabic in Plain TeX over luatex where the alphabets are not isolated? 1. Mixed-up categories: Plain TeX is a macropackage, luaTeX is an engine. 2. Your question is way too general. You could use ArabTeX with the original TeX engine, and there are other systems out there too... 3. For real-life 21'st century practical purposes (viz utf-8 + opentype) your choices are XeTeX and LuaTeX. 4. Without a more precise question I cannot really recommend which way to go from here. Search the wiki as well :-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Latest Notepad++ package for ConTeXt
Dear gang, I have uploaded the latest version of the ConTeXt support package for Notepad++. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Image:Npp_ConTeXt-Uni.zip It has been updated to 5.1.4, the latest stable version. There are now two versions of Notepad++: ANSI and Unicode. The ANSI version is mostly a legacy version, which supports Win95/98/ME. Unicode Npp supports Unicode path names etc., and is the main release. Most to all important plugins have been ported to Unicode Npp; this and future versions of this package for ConTeXt will only support Unicode Npp from now on. Old plugins will not work with Unicode Npp, so be sure to remove them before installing the latest Npp. See https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=5503888 for more details. NppExec console plugin is essential for this package. It is installed by default by the Npp installer. This support package includes a redundant NppExec plugin -- in case you forgot to install it ;-) -- as well as the Explorer plugin and the XBrackets plugin -- not included in the main distro. XBrackets provides bracket autocompletion and is configurable. Directory structure has changed a bit: Npp now stores some config settings in Application Data\Notepad++\plugins\config that used to be stored in eg Program Files\Notepad++\plugins\Config the startstop module has been moved to texmf-project. Most of its features are or soon will be made obsolete in mkiv. The run commands are now all linked to scripts. Shortcuts are in the Macros menu, and you by F6 you can open the scripts console and editor. This way it's easier to edit the commands as well as to keep up with changes in the way ConTeXt does things etc. All reference to aleph is gone, luatex is its successor. Update ConTeXt is almost certainly obsolete; I never use it anyway. Feel free to send me an updated script for inclusion. I have never used XeTeX, the XeTeX related scripts may need adjustment. Please send me any comments, suggestions, or improvements! Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Unicode and BibTeX
Salaam, Khaled, On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:51:56 -0700, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: I'm trying to typeset an Arabic book with Arabic bibliography, I'm using bib module, but bibtex doesn't support unicode. Any workaround or another alternative? Can you port your database to bbl format -- \start-stoppublication -- and just use the bib module without bibtex? Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Contributing [was: Re: starting headings at top of column
Hi Lars, On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:57:41 -0700, Lars Huttar lars_hut...@sil.org wrote: I've started talking to people in charge about contributing some money to this mailing list, or the wiki, or something ... we're certainly getting a lot of help from it. Is there an org or project to contribute to? My suggestion is to start a fund to sponsor the first commercial ConTeXt book. Steve Peter, myself and others have been pushing in this direction for awhile, and the time is approaching to work on it in earnest. Feel free to contact me off-list to discuss this if you like. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Optical scaling
Hi, On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:30:33 -0700, Michail Vidiassov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: among advertised advantages of TeX there used to be optical scaling, It still is when text in the same font but in different sizes has different shapes of glyphs. That used to be the feature of metafont fonts and derived PostScript ones (like cm-super). Or Latin Modern, also derived from the meta sources. But it seems now, with TeX Gyre becoming the default free fonts set, it seems the idea is dropped. LM is default, and is fully optically scaled Is it really so or one just needs some commercial OpenType font family to use it (Adobe Opticals)? TeX/ConTeXt supports optical fonts, such fonts (=LM) are still the default, and you can plug any commercially available set like Minion Optical Pro into the system. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt
Hi, On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:29:09 -0700, Lars Huttar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. The same TeX reference reports, Be careful, PlainTeX is a macropaackage, just as ConTeXt is. One must distinguish PlainTeX commands from the TeX (and pdftex/luaTeX) primitives. Although some PlainTeX commands work similarly to the ConTeXt counterparts, you can rarely assume this. There are lots and lots more examples. Better to just treat them as very distinct macropackages, with a few commonly USED command names in common, but used to MENTION different things. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] embedding 3d pdf
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:53:33 -0700, Renaud Aubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blender (+type1 font) then Right Hemisphere for the conversion... What is Blender -- the name is too generic for google... Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] embedding 3d pdf
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:57:58 -0700, Matija Šuklje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.blender.org/ On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:10:56 -0700, Renaud Aubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See http://www.blender.org/ and http://www.righthemisphere.com/products/dexp/de_std.html (I've used an old windows version of Deep Exploration) Thank you, Matija and Renaud! Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using a .fea file disable arabic contextual analysis
Salaam, Khaled, On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:12:34 -0600, Khaled Hosny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See the attached files, the mark features seem to work but contextual forms (init, medi amnd fina) don't As a workaround, try using a fallback, defining two fontfeature's and letting arabtype fall back on itself for just those digits (untested here). Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What should I learn?
Hi, On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:14:50 -0600, Mauricio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Tex is not an option, since PDF, today's font formats (and Unicode) and many algorithms didn't exist when Knuth decided no features would be added anymore. Maybe I should hack the source code of pdftex or luatex? I can try that, but that's going to be hard work and I would like to know how far I can get before starting, or if there are easier options (like libraries to write PDF and read OpenType and books or example code of typesetting algorithms). The beginning of the above paragraph is confused, but I have no time to disambiguate :-) What you are looking for sounds like a pipe dream. OTOH, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lout It is apparently a Haskell-like language that seems to roughly correspond to what you are looking for. Best wishes -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Vertically centered title page
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:22:08 -0600, Flavien Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I am trying to build a presentation with specific requirements. I would like to have the title of the presentation on the middle (both vertical and horizontal) of the first page. I tried, on one hand, two \vfill, and, on the other hand, \framed[location=middle,align=middle] but without success. The title is always on the top of the text area. Any help is welcome ! You may play with \starttext \startstandardmakeup \startalignment[middle] test \stopalignment \stopstandardmakeup \stoptext Best wishes -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with Palatino sans serif
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:10:02 -0600, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
What is wrong with my installation (or my document)?
Can you attach your log file? Does adding \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
on
top of the document help?
Adding that line doesn't change the behavior. I've attached a copy of
the
log.
Your log file is exactly same as the log file that I get (but I go get
correct font scaling).
Rory, if updating your old ConTeXt mkii is not an option, then try this.
It's form is also instructive and may help you with future setups.
=
\starttypescript [palatino-ec]
% \definebodyfontenvironment %% optional
% [palatino]
% [default]
% [interlinespace=2.7ex]
\definetypeface [palatino] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default]
[encoding=ec]
\definetypeface [palatino] [ss] [sans] [modern] [default]
[encoding=ec,rscale=1.075]
\definetypeface [palatino] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default]
[encoding=ec,rscale=1.075]
\definetypeface [palatino] [mm] [math] [palatino] [default]
\quittypescriptscanning
\stoptypescript
\usetypescript[palatino-ec]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
\starttext
test
\ss Hello world!
{\tfa\ss tfa}
{\tfb\ss tfb}
{\tfc\ss tfc}
{\tfd\ss tfd}
\stoptext
=
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] new beta
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:15:19 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a next release will have sectioning redone so will we finally get \startsection \stopsection etc.? :-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new beta
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:31:46 -0600, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2008, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:15:19 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a next release will have sectioning redone so will we finally get \startsection \stopsection etc.? :-) We already have them, just try it out :-) Really? \startchapter gives me an undefined control sequence... Maybe you mean \startsectionworld etc. I forgot about that, although Hans mentioned that this is just a stopgap measure till sectioning is redone... http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080817.132203.12343f00.en.html Thanks for reminding me Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with Palatino sans serif
Hi,
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:13:04 -0600, Rory Molinari
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'm having problems with Palatino sans serif in my documents.
Consider the following small file:
\usetypescript[palatino][ec]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,10pt]
\starttext
\ss Hello world!
{\tfa\ss tfa}
{\tfb\ss tfb}
{\tfc\ss tfc}
{\tfd\ss tfd}
\stoptext
On live.contextgarden.net this renders correctly, with sans serif text
and appropriate character sizes.
On my local system, though, all the text is serif and at the same
size. There is no size variation with \tfa, \tfb, etc. If I remove
all the \ss commands then the sizing works again.
I just tried your example; \ss works here just fine.
I'm using MacTeX 2008. Here are my version strings from texexec:
This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9 (Web2C 7.5.7)
ConTeXt ver: 2008.04.11 00:07 MKII fmt: 2008.10.11 int: english/
english
What is wrong with my installation (or my document)?
Your ConTeXt is ancient. Try updating to the latest current version or
beta. My beta is
ConTeXt ver: 2008.10.12 22:46 MKII
The latest beta should be safe since mkii is pretty much fixed, if not
frozen.
Best wishes
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] substitutions
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:16:42 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans and Taco can probably tell you more. it all depends on what we want to achieve ... - we can have font fixers (dynamically extend fonts with features, but this demands knowledge of the font) - we can have replacements in the node list (attribute driven, relatively easy to implement) so before i start looking into this, we need to investigate what is needed (and what for) For things like my journal, I get lots of inconsistent transliterations, and we are not yet at the stage where we can enforce behavior on authors. I would like to be able to do things like Mohamed - Muḥammad which would save me a lot of time in proofreading, editing, etc. Getting the transliteration for the entire journal consistent is a tedious pain, and eventually I can have a nice database that will cover most cases. This is also much more convenient than using control-sequence definitions and watching out for spaces etc. (only mkiv) Indeed ;-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] substitutions
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:53:40 -0600, Mojca Miklavec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
Sometimes I use the following for simple substitutions:
\defineactivecharacter ' {\otfchar{quoteright}}
But is there a more general mechanism to do things
\definesubstitution{string1}{string2}
eg
\definesubstitution{--}{–}
Of course ConTeXt already provides this particular substitution
In mkii it doesn't. Fonts do that substitution. In mkiv a hack is
applied to fonts (not to TeX macros), so that this particular
substitution works.
Hmm, so this is much more complicated than I thought...
but I'm
interested in such a mechanism for more general purposes.
In mkii this is not possible, except with some ugly hacks. You can
easily substitute a single character by making it active. To
substitute whole words, you either need to modify fonts, or write some
dirty macros.
I see. In any case, mkii is obsolete for my purposes, if/when I get to
writing a book on ConTeXt it will cover mkiv only.
In mkiv you can either apply some patches to fonts (search for tlig
in ConTeXt source, for example font-otf.lua, also, there are some fea
files in fonts/fea/context capable of doing that), or change input
text while reading/digesting some TeX file.
tlig was buggy, but it works in the latest beta. Thank you, Hans!
Hans and Taco can probably tell you more.
And Thank you, Mojca!
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
[NTG-context] substitutions
Dear gang,
Sometimes I use the following for simple substitutions:
\defineactivecharacter ' {\otfchar{quoteright}}
But is there a more general mechanism to do things
\definesubstitution{string1}{string2}
eg
\definesubstitution{--}{–}
Of course ConTeXt already provides this particular substitution but I'm
interested in such a mechanism for more general purposes.
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] Still missing some farsi characters
Hi Mehdi,
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:10:41 -0600, Mehdi Omidali [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi Idris and others,
In the latest font-otf.lua some farsi characters are not included in
isol_final
and isol_final_medi_init functions. Here they are
isol_final: 0698
isol_final_medi_init: 06AF 06A9 06CC
I thought we had fixed this months ago... Hans, could you add this patch:
=
local isol = {
[0x0621] = true, [zwnj] = true,
}
local isol_fina = {
[0x0622] = true, [0x0623] = true, [0x0624] = true, [0x0625] =
true, [0x0627] = true, [0x062F] = true,
[0x0630] = true, [0x0631] = true, [0x0632] = true,
[0x0648] = true, [0x0698] = true,
[0xFEF5] = true, [0xFEF7] = true, [0xFEF9] = true, [0xFEFB] = true,
}
local isol_fina_medi_init = {
[0x0626] = true, [0x0628] = true, [0x0629] = true, [0x062A] =
true, [0x062B] = true, [0x062C] = true, [0x062D] = true, [0x062E] = true,
[0x0633] = true, [0x0634] = true, [0x0635] = true, [0x0636] =
true, [0x0637] = true, [0x0638] = true, [0x0639] = true, [0x063A] = true,
[0x0640] = true, -- tadwil
[0x0641] = true, [0x0642] = true, [0x0643] = true, [0x0644] =
true, [0x0645] = true, [0x0646] = true, [0x0647] = true, [0x0649] = true,
[0x064A] = true,
[0x067E] = true, [0x0686] = true, [0x06AF] = true, [0x06A9] =
true, [0x06CC] = true,
[zwj] = true,
}
=
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] Figures are misplaced with \pagedir TRT\bodydir TRT
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:58:21 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Khaled Hosny wrote:
Figures are shifted to the right (the left edge is where right edge
should) when I set \pagedir TRT\bodydir TRT.
\pagedir TRT \bodydir TRT
\setupheadertexts[from left to right]
\starttext
\input tufte
\placefigure
[here,force]
[fig:Mill]
{Test.}
{\externalfigure[mill]}
\input tufte
\stoptext
i'm wondering ... why do we need pagedir and bodydir?
Try this one, and play with commenting lines 1 or 2:
\pagedir TRT \bodydir TRT
\pardir TRT \textdir TRT
\setupheadertexts[from left to right]
\starttext
\input tufte\footnote{\input ward }
\placefigure
[here,force]
[fig:Mill]
{Test.}
{\externalfigure[mill]}
\input tufte\footnote{\input ward }
\stoptext
As to the original problem:
\textdir TRT
\input epsf
\epsfbox{fig.eps}\input knuth
\bye
I don't think this is an omega/aleph/luatex bug, but rather that epsf.tex
does not take the global direction change into account. It seems that, for
any figure mechanism in TeX, the coordinates of the figure need to be
vertically reversed when
\pagedir TRT \bodydir TRT
in effect.
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] mswincontext.zip
Hi, On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:27:37 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, A bit frustrated as I cannot seem to get a mswincontext scite combination going. I gave up on: http://pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswintex.zip. I got absolutely nowhere with the installation and trying to connect scite. So, I just downloaded: http://pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip After extracting to c:\context, I ran the file first-setup.bat, which proceeded to install a lot of files. Was this a correct thing to do? Not sure, but I did not do it :-) Strange, as the distribution size was already huge. It would really help to have a readme.txt in this distribution with installation directions. After first-setup was complete, I ran cscite.bat. Scite opened. Good! I entered the usual test file: \starttext Hello, World! \stoptext And saved as test.tex. Then I tried Tools-Compile, which resulted in this error mesage: texmfstart concheck test.tex ruby: no such file to load--ubygems (LoadError) Reinstall Ruby without RubyGems. That worked for me. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:26:20 -0600, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the readme.txt you wrote... 13. A note: In Preferences, always leave the option Remember the last operation directory unchecked. What's the reason for this recommendation ? It used to be the case that Npp would always open in the %Appdata%/Notepad++ directory. Maybe that's been fixed. Just play with it and see what happens. Unchecked, it will open in the dir of the current file. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
Hi, On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:29:56 -0600, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (1) FYI, Application Data.zip also contains a 'Program Files' folder which has the same contents as 'Program Files.zip' Strange; I'll correct it. From readme.txt : (2) 9. Copy the directory Program Files\Notepad++ to Program Files Shouldn't it be copy the *contents* of these (sub)directories to their corresponding C:\Program Files\Notepad++ (sub)directories ? Put another way: Drop Program Files\Notepad++ onto C:\Program Files (3) 10. Copy the directory Application Data\Notepad++ to Application Data. To Windows XP's C:\Documents and Settings\(username)\Application Data or C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data ? See earlier in the readme: in what follows I assume that all configuration files are saved in \username\Application Data\Notepad++ Thanks for the comments and Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:58:44 -0600, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correction... * Encoding: UTF 8, UTF 8 with BOM - what must be selected for ConTeXt ? What must be selected for ConTeXt-MK IV ? Either will work fine, since luatex always assumes utf-8 input. My own Npp setup defaults to utf-8 (with BOM) for new docs. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:56:03 -0600, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two other questions, if I may... (1) The folding feature behaves strangely. - Instead of folding it collapses everything what's underneath. - Once a folding section gets initiated from within the ConTeXt setup area ( at a \startsomething command ), it runs straight down to \stoptext instead of from every \startsomething to \stopsomething There are different levels of folding, 0--8: Alt-0, Alt-1, Alt-8. Alt-0 collapses all, use Alt-Shift-n to uncollapse to the desired degree. (2) Preferences - New Document tab * Format: Windows - Unix - Mac - are (*.tex) files between these OSs incompatible ? Should make absolutely no difference, since TeX looks for a blank line to mark paragraph breaks -- or a '\par' -- and does not care about linebreak conventions OTOH: Maybe support will be added for unicode parsep at some point... * Encoding: UTF 8, UTF 8 with BOM - what must be selected for ConTeXt ? Either will work for mkiv. If you enable the utf-8 regime in mkii that should also work. Looks like great editor nevertheless, much better than SciTE.Thanks again for the ConTeXt package. You are welcome :-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:13:09 -0600, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are different levels of folding, 0--8: Alt-0, Alt-1, Alt-8. Alt-0 collapses all, use Alt-Shift-n to uncollapse to the desired degree. These work ok indeed. Nevertheless, the folding marks and foldings themselves run awkwardly in some tex files. Are you using TeX or ConTeXt from the language menu? Back to readme.txt : --- 2) Folding a) ... All \start-stops are foldable, and you can easily add your own in the User-Defined-Language dialog; just select ConTeXt and you can edit all entries. --- Strange... the User Define Dialog User Language drop down box has only one entry: User Define Language. There is nothing else, no ConTeXt entry. I suspect that your userDefineLang.xml is not being recognized and that you are using the default TeX setup. Don't know why... Are you sure the package is installed correctly? Lookk for where Npp installs the original userDefineLang.xml, then overide it with mine. One thing I have noticed is that the default TeX language support in Npp is much better than in past versions. Folding is not so good, though. Note that Hans wrote the original TeX lexer for scite that Npp uses by default (with some modifications). So probably there has been some development of this lexer on the scite side of things. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:03:55 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason I use acrobat.lnk is because it does not rezize my acrobat window the way texexec's autopdf option does. I want my Acrobat window to be positioned in the same place and size whenever I open it. Best wishes Idris That's strange. Have you tried edit-prefs-documents then enable restore last view settings when reopening documents? Yes, and to be sure I checked and tried it again just now. The --autopdf --pdf option resizes the acrobat window to default... very annoying. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:00:00 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like Idris forgot to include the readme thnx, i uploaded a new version with the updated readme. I'll polish it later. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
Hi Alan, On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:54:05 -0600, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If texexec and company choke on directory names with characters like '+' in them why would one nevertheless assume that the directory name remains 'Notepad++' ? Because that's the default and I don't try to run tex files from the either Notepad++ directory. This is mainly a warning for the uninitiated, I learned the hard way ;-) And, even if you rename the installation directory, the name of the local user application directory will still be 'Notepad++ why would one choose to not to use the default destination folder, 'Notepad++'. .. and change it to, eg, 'Notepadpp' ? Presumably someone good at registry trickery, recompiling the source etc could rename that one too. Again, just providing info for those who can use it. I use the default. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
Dear gang, I have uploaded the latest version of the ConTeXt support package for Notepad++. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Image:Npp_ConTeXt.zip It has been updated to 5.0.3, the latest stable version. The main difference in the package is the new autocompletion file format. See context.xml. I have also included the Explorer plugin and the latest NppExec plugin (2.4) -- the NppExec that comes with 5.0.3 is just slightly out of date (2.4 RC1). Npp now supports calltips. I was thinking of adding them to context.xml but it would be very time-consuming. Basically, when typing a context command you would get a little window giving you some info about that command if you want it. I may make some suggestions to the Npp team to make this feature more useful. Anyway, Npp keeps getting better and better. It recently won the SourceForge's Community Choice Awards for Best Tool or Utility for Developers: http://ostatic.com/169634-blog/sourceforges-community-choice-awards-winners-named There are just a few more things Npp could use to make this a near-perfect ConTeXt editor, I'll bug the developers soon... Npp can now use external lexers. Eventually I would like to translate the ConTeXt syntax setup to a lexer so we can add a bit more flexibility. Lexer development is way beyond my skills at the moment but if anyone is interested in contributing to this I'd be happy for the help. F7 will repeat the last script executed by F6. So it behaves differently than F7 in Hans' Scite setup (Build). I use NppExec instead of Run anyway. In the next version, I may deprecate the Run menu commands and attach the shortcuts to the NppExec scripts; I think there is even a way to then may a menu of these NppExec shortcuts. This will allow for easier tweaking and experimenting by users, and also updating when Hans changes things ;-) The startstop module is still included, though Hans has just added support for footnote etc environments so that part of the module can be commented out. For mkiv a new sectioning mechanism is on the way, and mkii users can still use Wolfgang's module. See startstop.tex. The original instructions are here: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070813.050137.7a5796f0.en.html Enjoy! Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
Mohamad, سلام, On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:35:33 -0600, Mohamed Bana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Idris, thanks alot! Also what OS do you happen to be using? XP On my Vista 64bit box I had trouble running the default Process ConTeXt file (pdf) command, the document compiles fine but fails on opening adobe reader; TeXExec | runtime: 3.646 Process finished. acrobat.bat pdfopen --file C:\context\test.pdf CreateProcess() failed READY Hmm, try making .LNK files executable in Control Panel, System, Advanced, Environment Variables. The reason I use acrobat.lnk is because it does not rezize my acrobat window the way texexec's autopdf option does. I want my Acrobat window to be positioned in the same place and size whenever I open it. Or maybe Vista64 has a different way of handling symlinks. If anyone knows how to assign to shortcuts to the NppExec scripts, please, do post them. Go to PluginsNppExecAdvanced Options, left side. Then you can add the scripts to the menu. I discovered this myself just now ;-) I guess you then use the shortcut mapper to give shortcuts to the new menu items. I'll try to find some time to do this and post an updated package sometime soon... Then the Run menu items for ConTeXt will be deprecated or removed. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] grouped sections and footnotes
Hi Hans,
I am using a module -- non-distributed as far as I know -- created by
Wolfgang. It provides grouped sectioning and footnotes:
startstop-t.tex==
\unprotect
\def\se{se}
\def\definegroupedsection[#1]%
{\setvalue{\e!start#1}[##1]%
{\getparameters[\se#1][\c!ref=,\c!title=,##1]%
\getvalue{#1}[\getvalue{\se#1\c!ref}]{\getvalue{\se#1\c!title}}}
\setvalue{\e!stop#1}{\relax}}
\def\definegroupednote[#1]%
{\edef\currentnote{#1}%
\def\dostartcurrentnote[##1][##2]{\setnote[##1][##2]\bgroup\ignorespaces}%
\setvalue{\e!start\currentnote}{\dodoubleempty\dostartcurrentnote[#1]}%
\setvalue{\e!stop\currentnote}{\removeunwantedspaces\egroup\noteparameter\c!next}}
\definegroupedsection[title]
\definegroupedsection[chapter]
\definegroupedsection[section]
\definegroupedsection[subsection]
\definegroupedsection[subsubsection]
\definegroupednote [footnote]
\setupfootnotes[next=\autoinsertnextspace]
\protect
\starttext
\starttitle[title=Title]
\stoptitle
\startchapter[title=Chapter]
\startsection[title=Section]
\input knuth
Text
\startfootnote[nabiyy]
A footnote
\stopfootnote
text
\startsubsection[title=Subsection]
Text
\startfootnote
A footnote. See \in{footnote}[nabiyy]
\stopfootnote
text
\startsubsubsection[title=Subsubsection]
Text
\startfootnote
A footnote
\stopfootnote
text
\stopsubsubsection
\stopsubsection
\stopsection
\stopchapter
\stoptext
=
Question:
a) Have you added support for grouped sectioning and footnotes in mkiv yet?
b) Does the above code seem safe for mkiv?
c) (For Wolfgang:) Has the above code been updated or extended etc. yet?
For long documents this kind of grouping has become indispensable (easy
code-folding etc.)
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] Non-printable Unicode control characters
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:53:06 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: Unicode has many control characters that only control text behaviour and shouldn't be rendered visually in the text, such as Bidi_Control and Join_Control chars (see http://www.unicode.org/Public/5.1.0/ucd/PropList.txt and http://unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UCD.html) Currently, ConTeXt handles ZWJ and ZWNJ, but other characters get rendered if the font has glyphs for them or make no effect at all if the font has no glyphs for them. I think that the optimum behaviour is to make those characters affect text formatting while not visually rendered whether the font has glyphs for them or not. It might be also useful if we can enable rendering those characters manually, for drafts and such. actually we need: - ignore them (like in verbatim) Eventually we want to be able to show them in verbatim also (provided the font has them). Indeed, I suggest that -- given an appropriate teletype font -- the default for _verbatim text_ should be to _show_ the control chars. - act upon them and - show them (might somehow interfere with other things) Showing the control chars in typeset text -- non-verbatim -- should be rare; more appropriate for verbatim - hide them I suggest that the default for _typeset text_ should definitely be to _hide_ the control chars. if i'm right, when bidi is turned on, those chars get processed and then discarded from the node list, so some more than zwj and zwnj is handled, It appears to me that zwj and zwnj etc. should be invisible in typeset-text output -- as explained above, but should still be encoded in the output pdf. Think pdf-text extraction, converting between Arabic and Farsi typesetting conventions, etc. and of course others need to be handled as well Even lsep's and psep's should be present in the output pdf (eg \par = psep). Will make text extraction much more useful, etc. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] texmfstart texexec
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:15:39 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:26:02 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Could there be something screwy in cscite.bat? Or setuptex.bat? what does echo %PATH% report? \testecho %PATH% C:\ConTeXt\goodies\bin;C:\ConTeXt\xmllib\bin;C:\ConTeXt\gs\bin;C:\ConTeXt\ruby\bin;C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-mswin\bin; [followed by the rest of my global environment variables, including the presets following] C:\ConTeXt;C:\ConTeXt\tex;C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-mswin\bin;C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-project\bin\miktex-bin; C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-project\bin\fptex-bin;C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-context\scripts\context\ruby; ^ old Those are some old aleph utilites for making ocp's, ofm's etc. cobbled from ancient versions of miktex and fptex -- sometimes the miktex binary would work but not the fptex binary and vice versa -) C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\scripts\context\stubs\mswin;C:\ruby\bin;C:\Perl\bin\; i wonder if c:\ruby\bin is the problem; can you run ruby texmfstart,rb ? ruby: No such file or directory -- texmfstart.rb (LoadError) (this while script becoming a exe is quite painful and fragile, which is why i always run things by stub) there is no texmfstart.bat in \scripts\context\stubs\mswin Is there another way? also, if you use luatex ... you can adapt the scite properties files (user ones) to use 'context' instead of 'texexec' luatex/context.cmd is working, it's just that I want to be able to compile the pdftex format for testing, legacy files, etc. Otherwise I am gradually moving everything over to luatex. For the record, going back to my backup context works. texmfstart.exe and the scripts seem the same. The only difference I can see is going from texmf-local to -context. I wonder what's triggering this. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] texmfstart texexec
Hi Mojca, On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:06:59 -0600, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But for texmfstart.exe texexec I keep getting ruby: no such file to load -- ubygems (LoadError) texmfstart --locate texexec.rb gives me /texmf-context/scripts/context/ruby/texexec.rb Any ideas on what's wrong? I would say it's a broken ruby installation, or some other file is broken, but I cannot find anything in ConTeXt, maybe in standalone ConTeXt environment ... I tried moving all setuptex.bat variables to the global XP environment variables. Then I could make a pdftex format without cscite.bat. But I could not run any pdftex files because texexec keeps looking for the format in -local/web2c/pdftex instead of -mswin\web2c\pdftex. I've removed those global variables and again trying to get setuptex/cscite.bat/pdftex working. Can you try to find a string ubygems in some .rb file? It should be rubygems at most, but I have no idea where this is comming from. That is weird indeed. Thnx and Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] texmfstart texexec
Hi Hans, Mojca, and all, I uninstalled ruby and reinstalled: no joy. Then I uninstalled ruby and reinstalled without installing RubyGems. Believe it or not that worked! I can compile the format and run mkii now. This still leaves open the question as to how RubyGems and cscite.bat (which is the source of npp.bat for notepad++) are interfering with each other in the new minimals/maximal (what is ubygems without the r anyway?). Might be worth investigating at some point... Thnx and Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] texmfstart texexec
Dear gang, On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:59:20 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Idris Samawi Hamid ? ? wrote: Dear gang, I am upgrading my system to the latest mswincontext distro. After some hiccups, context.cmd finds its target script, so I can generate the mkiv format But for texmfstart.exe texexec I keep getting ruby: no such file to load -- ubygems (LoadError) hm, some rubygems interaction; i really dislike these 'package managers overloading the module loaders' texmfstart --locate texexec.rb gives me /texmf-context/scripts/context/ruby/texexec.rb Any ideas on what's wrong? some messy ruby in your path you can make a small bat file that starts texmfstart @echo off setlocal ruby c:\pathtoscript\texmfstart.rb %* endlocal might work or (what i have here) just add scripts/context/ruby to your PATH variable and associate .rb with ruby Still no luck. Here is some info: ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [i386-mswin32] \texmf-context\scripts\context\rubytexmfstart texexec ruby: no such file to load -- ubygems (LoadError) I ran the above in the directory with the scripts. Is there a setup or ini file where I need to change the path? I compared my old setuptex.bat with the new one. No real clues yet. \texmf-context\scripts\context\ruby is in the PATH, rebooted Any ideas? What has changed since the last mswincontext, other that the switch from -local/ to -context/? Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] texmfstart texexec
Hi Hans, I think I found a clue: If I start a command shell (no scite or npp or other editor) and do setuptex c:\context\tex texmfstart texexec I get TeXExec | version 6.2.0 - 1997-2006 - PRAGMA ADE/POD TeXExec | --checkcheck versions TeXExec | --figures generate overview of figures TeXExec | --listing list of file content TeXExec | --make make formats TeXExec | --modules generate module documentation TeXExec | --mpgraphicprocess mp file to stand-alone graphics TeXExec | --mpstatic process mp/ctx file to stand-alone graphics TeXExec | --mptexprocess mp file TeXExec | --mpxtex process mpx file TeXExec | --pdfarrange impose pages (booklets) TeXExec | --pdfcombine combine multiple pages TeXExec | --pdfcopy copy pages from file(s) TeXExec | --pdfselectselect pages from file(s) TeXExec | --pdfsplit split file in pages TeXExec | --pdftrim trim pages from file(s) TeXExec | --process process file TeXExec | TeXExec | --help --all shows all switches If I click on cscite.bat scite opens. Then I do CTRL-6 for a window. then I do texmfstart texexec getting ruby: no such file to load -- ubygems (LoadError) Even setuptex c:\context\tex texmfstart texexec in scite gives me ruby: no such file to load -- ubygems (LoadError) Could there be something screwy in cscite.bat? Or setuptex.bat? Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] texmfstart texexec
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:26:02 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Could there be something screwy in cscite.bat? Or setuptex.bat? what does echo %PATH% report? \testecho %PATH% C:\ConTeXt\goodies\bin;C:\ConTeXt\xmllib\bin;C:\ConTeXt\gs\bin;C:\ConTeXt\ruby\bin;C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-mswin\bin; [followed by the rest of my global environment variables, including the presets following] C:\ConTeXt;C:\ConTeXt\tex;C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-mswin\bin;C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-project\bin\miktex-bin; C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-project\bin\fptex-bin;C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-context\scripts\context\ruby; C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\scripts\context\stubs\mswin;C:\ruby\bin;C:\Perl\bin\; ... Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] texmfstart texexec
Dear gang, I am upgrading my system to the latest mswincontext distro. After some hiccups, context.cmd finds its target script, so I can generate the mkiv format But for texmfstart.exe texexec I keep getting ruby: no such file to load -- ubygems (LoadError) texmfstart --locate texexec.rb gives me /texmf-context/scripts/context/ruby/texexec.rb Any ideas on what's wrong? Best wishes Idris PS I like the new directory structure -- texmf-cache, texmf-context etc. -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
Hi Maurício,
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:50:07 -0600, Maurício [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
\starttext
With 0-kern: '\kern0pt'\kern0pt'\kern0pt'\kern0pt'
The easy way: \dorecurse5'
\stoptext
Cheers, Peter
Neither of them work. ' (Unicode 0027) is still
converted to ’ (Unicode 2018).
\starttext
\dorecurse5'{}
% or \dorecurse{5}{'{}}
\stoptext
works here. I copied the text from the pdf into a unicode editor and it
gives 0027.
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:50:07 -0600, Maurício [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I need to write ' in a text. However, since
it's a special tag in wiki language, I really
need it to be 5 times U0027, not ””’ (U201C and
U2018). How can I do that?
\starttext
With 0-kern: '\kern0pt'\kern0pt'\kern0pt'\kern0pt'
The easy way: \dorecurse5'
\stoptext
Cheers, Peter
Neither of them work. ' (Unicode 0027) is still
converted to ’ (Unicode 2018).
Even better:
\starttext
\defineactivecharacter ' {\otfchar{quoteright}}
'
\stoptext
Tested here.
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:12:04 -0600, Maurício [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I need to write ' in a text. However,
(...) I really need it to be 5 times U0027,
not ””’ (U201C and U2018). (...)
\starttext
\dorecurse5'{}
% or \dorecurse{5}{'{}}
\stoptext
Even better:
\starttext
\defineactivecharacter ' {\otfchar{quoteright}}
'
\stoptext
Both also didn't work. Are you using Mark IV? I'm
using regular Context (the one that comes with
Ubuntu), maybe that's the difference.
Indeed, I am using mkiv... But you should be able to use \char etc. to get
the same effect.
pdftex is not working at the moment here -- see my message to the list --
so I can't test this at the moment, but in pdftex there is
\unicodecharacter{number}
so
\unicodecharacter{27}
should work.
Another option is to use utf8 encoding and insert a zero-width space
(200B) between the 0027's.
Finally: Did you try \dorecurse{5}{{'}}?
{'}{'} should break the dbl-quote just as {f}{i} breaks the fi ligature...
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] texmfstart texexec
Hi Hans, On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:59:20 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: texmfstart --locate texexec.rb gives me /texmf-context/scripts/context/ruby/texexec.rb Any ideas on what's wrong? some messy ruby in your path you can make a small bat file that starts texmfstart @echo off setlocal ruby c:\pathtoscript\texmfstart.rb %* endlocal might work $C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-context\scripts\context\ruby\texmfstart.rb texexec ruby: no such file to load -- ubygems (LoadError) This makes no sense: texexec.rb and texmfstart.rb are in the same directory! I wonder why texmfstart can't find texexec... $texmfstart --path C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-context\scripts\context\ruby\texexec.rb test.tex gives no error but does nothing else but return the command prompt. or (what i have here) just add scripts/context/ruby to your PATH did that and relogged in: does not work. variable and associate .rb with ruby XP already associates .rb files with the ruby interpreter. Stumped Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] placing section heads in toc
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:19:03 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:06:24 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: incrementnumber=list Thank you guys, I knew it had to be something simple [that one's not documented]... Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] placing section heads in toc
Dear gang,
This used to work:
=
\definehead[intro][chapter]
\setuphead [intro][numberstyle=normal,
number=no,
ownnumber=no,
incrementnumber=no,
continue=no,
placehead=yes]
\definecombinedlist[mycontent][intro,chapter]
\setupcombinedlist [mycontent][alternative=c]
\starttext
\title{Table of Contents}
\placemycontent
\intro{Preface}
\chapter{Test}
\chapter{Test}
\stoptext
=
The \intro head does not appear in the toc unless I first comment
incrementnumber=no, which, of course, ruins the numbering. Is this a bug
or is there a new protocol? Both mkiv and mkii diplay the same behavior.
using ConTeXt ver: 2008.08.09
Is this a bug? If not, how can I get a non-numbered head into the toc?
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] placing section heads in toc
Hi Hans,
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:03:19 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Idris Samawi Hamid ? ? wrote:
Is this a bug? If not, how can I get a non-numbered head into the toc?
\startfrontmatter
... \chapter{...} ...
\stopfrontmatter
Ok thnx a lot. But is that just a workaround or is there a new protocol?
\start|stopfrontmatter seems like overkill...
incrementnumber=no,
placehead=yes
used to work in the toc before, and I can forsee places where I'll need
this in the mainmatter...
So is it a bug? If not, why not?
Thanks again and all
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] Passing unicode characters
Dear Mehdi,
سلام
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:48:46 -0600, Mehdi Omidali [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi everyone,
Is it possible to pass a character to another in MKIV, I mean, like
XeTeX in which one can pass one unicode character to another one (this
is done in some mapping files with some lines in it of the form
U+0030 U+06F0 )
I'm not quite sure I understand you, but there is a mechanism so that you
can write your own feature file with your own gsubs and gposs and then
pass those along to luatex.
This was broken in earlier versions of luatex; seems to be working now --
just checked. See below.
Best wishes
Idris
===verbose.fea==
lookup NumericLookupDFLT {
lookupflag 0 ;
sub zero by z e r o ;
sub one by o n e ;
sub two by t w o ;
sub three by t h r e e ;
sub four by f o u r ;
sub five by f i v e ;
sub six by s i x ;
sub seven by s e v e n ;
sub eight by e i g h t ;
sub nine by n i n e ;
} NumericLookupDFLT ;
feature verb {
script DFLT ;
language dflt ;
lookup NumericLookupDFLT ;
script latn;
language dflt ;
lookup NumericLookupDFLT ;
language AZE exclude_dflt ;
lookup NumericLookupDFLT ;
language CRT exclude_dflt ;
lookup NumericLookupDFLT ;
language MOL exclude_dflt ;
lookup NumericLookupDFLT ;
language ROM exclude_dflt ;
lookup NumericLookupDFLT ;
language TRK exclude_dflt ;
lookup NumericLookupDFLT ;
} verb ;
=verb.tex===
% engine=luatex
% \setupoutput[pdftex]
\starttext
\installfontfeature[otf][verb]
\definefontfeature
[test][mode=node,language=dflt,script=latn,verb=yes,featurefile=verbose.fea]
\font\test=lmroman10-regular*test at 20pt
\test 1 2 3 4
\stoptext
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] MinionPro Opticals
Hi Ulrich, On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:55:02 -0600, Ulrich Dirr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, does there exist a package (typescript) for Adobe's MinionPro (with optical)? By now I've used LaTeX for MinionPro because of the MinionPro package which has a lot of features ... See http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080720.015059.a4d7f438.en.html How can I define a command for setting text in small caps with some user defined tracking value? What do you mean by 'defined tracking value'? Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem in arabic script
Dear Mehdi, سلام On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:13:12 -0600, Mehdi Omidali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use context+luatex to write farsi texts. A problem that I have been faced is that some characters (those that are in farsi and not in arabic like Gaf, Kaf, Ya and Che) are shown only in isolated form. How can I solve this problem. I use ubuntu and latest context and luatex. Please send me -- off list -- a small sample file with the font, and I'll examine it. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem in arabic script
Dear Mehdi,
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:15:09 -0600, Mehdi Omidali [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I use context+luatex to write farsi texts. A problem that I have been
faced is that some characters (those that are in farsi and not in
arabic like Gaf, Kaf, Ya and Che) are shown only in isolated
form. How can I solve this problem. I use ubuntu and latest context
and luatex.
I have added support for farsi in font-otf.lua. Ultimately we need to add
all unicode chars that submit to contextual analysis, like Urdu, Pashto
etc.
Until Hans gets back, do the following:
open font-otf.lua
go to line 4660
replace that definition with this one:
local isol_fina_medi_init = {
[0x0626] = true, [0x0628] = true, [0x0629] = true, [0x062A] =
true, [0x062B] = true, [0x062C] = true, [0x062D] = true, [0x062E] = true,
[0x0633] = true, [0x0634] = true, [0x0635] = true, [0x0636] =
true, [0x0637] = true, [0x0638] = true, [0x0639] = true, [0x063A] = true,
[0x0640] = true, -- tadwil
[0x0641] = true, [0x0642] = true, [0x0643] = true, [0x0644] =
true, [0x0645] = true, [0x0646] = true, [0x0647] = true, [0x0649] = true,
[0x064A] = true,
[0x067E] = true, [0x0686] = true, [0x0698] = true, [0x06A9] =
true, [0x06AF] = true, [0x06CC] = true,
[zwj] = true,
}
save and regenerate the format.
try your file again. Works here.
Note that artro.ttf does not seem to have the correct opentype info for
06CC, so it's not processed correctly.
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] Warnock Pro, Chaparral Pro, Jenson Pro and Myriad Pro
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:20:24 -0600, Mohamed Bana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد ishamid at colostate.edu writes: Are you using mkii or mkiv? I have Minion Pro and Myriad Pro for mkii... I'm using the minimals from the site, so I guess I'm using mkiv. not necessarily. Unless you are explicitly using luatex then you are using mkii Typescripts for mkii, mkiv or XeTeX would be great. For mkii, see the guide that I've written on this, as well as those written by others: Do you happen to have an updated copy which explains how to the install the OpenType version? See the end of that document; it explains how to install the otf version. But if you are using luatex/mkiv, then you just use the otf fonts directly, no need for any pre-processing or any map files. I have not ported my minion/myriad setup to mkiv but when I do I'll try to post an addendum... Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Warnock Pro, Chaparral Pro, Jenson Pro and Myriad Pro
Hi Muhammad, On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:50:56 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Does anyone have the typescripts for these fonts with or without the opticals? Are you using mkii or mkiv? I have Minion Pro and Myriad Pro for mkii... 2. Has anyone come across a guide for installing the optical versions of Warnock, Chaparral and Jenson For mkii, see the guide that I've written on this, as well as those written by others: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/My_Way http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/expertfonts.pdf Once you've done one complete typescript it's easy -- if tedious at times -- to make others... سلام Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
