RE: Permission issues

2009-02-08 Thread Paul Turner
Make sure it is not a permissions corruption issue.  This blog details it: 
http://www.beyondweblogs.com/post/SharePoint-security-access-denied-permission-corruption-problem-Edit-Item-and-Access-Workflows.aspx

Basically the PermMask field is missing the attribute 
RenderXmlUsingPattern.   I have had this many times on projects and the code 
in the blog fixes it.  You can create new items but cannot edit them and lots 
of the standard options/buttons on the toolbars are 'missing' even when you 
have a 'god' account.

Cheers

Paul T.

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Wampers, Wilson 
[Talent International]
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 4:44 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

Hi Paul,

I've encountered similar issues when using AD Groups combined with SharePoint 
Groups. (in a Kerberos environment).
This appears to cause functionality loss in particular, Presence, Save-As 
functionality, Site Membership, and My SharePoint Sites and perhaps elsewhere 
to?
When resorting to Individual AD Accounts assigned to SharePoint Groups there 
doesn't seem to be any functionality loss.
Hope this helps.
Kind Regards, Wilson
From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 14:01
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

A bit more digging around seems to point to the Profile Import.

Firstly, the scheduled imports aren't running. Neither is the compilation 
schedule for Audiences.

They are set. And there are no errors. They're just not running.

The timer service is running but the Timer Job status window is showing very 
large and consistent gaps.

Don't know whether any of this is related but it should probably be seen to.

Otherwise the boxes are pretty well up-to-date. Users are running IE6 or IE7.

I'll just keep digging. No doubt the problem will resolve itself before I find 
the cause...

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 2:06 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

Thanks guys, I'll check out all those avenues first.

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Thake
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 2:03 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

I have seen this before intermittently and it was an issue with the Domain 
Controller and Kerberos configuration at server level.

But also, are you patched up to the latest patches for SharePoint (December 
2008 Cumulative Update)?

It could possibly be a:

* Server caching issue?

* Client browser caching issue?

* Are you in a farm environment and propagation isn't work properly to 
web front end servers?

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:57 AM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: Permission issues

Hi guys,

We're getting permission and authentication issues (again) which I'm hoping 
someone else has experienced and found a resolution to. Everything was working 
just fine until very recently. No one knows of (or is willing to admit) any 
network related changes.

Scenario: I grant a user contribute  access to a folder in a team site shared 
library using Mange Permissions. I provide the URL to the folder and when 
navigating to it they receive an Access Denied screen. If they click request 
access and access is again granted, they continue to get the Access Denied 
screen.

I have checked and rechecked the permissions on the folder and also at the 
library level (where they have Limited Access). The user exists in all the 
appropriate AD groups and can happily access all the top-level sites.

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? It's driving me nuts. 
Could the mysterious ViewFormPagesLockDown feature be in any way responsible? 
[Just clutching at straws.]

Kind regards,

Paul


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RE: Permission issues

2009-02-08 Thread Paul Noone
Hi Wilson/Paul,

I've already run into the issue with SharePoint being unable to get presence, 
membership and My SharePoint Sites when using AD groups. I'm confident that 
someone will address this oversight in the next version.

To get around this I was obliged to add users individually for department Team 
Sites. But there's simply no way I can do this manually at an Intranet level 
with staff from over 140 schools needing to be categorised.

I don't suppose you could automate/update these through scripting?

I also encountered the missing toolbar items but only on top-level publishing 
sites, not with permission groups. I overcame this by setting the creator for 
all master and layout page files to an existing system account.

None of it seems to explain why the timer jobs have stopped running.

Regards,

Paul
Online Developer, ICT
CEO Sydney
From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Turner
Sent: Sunday, 8 February 2009 9:15 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

Make sure it is not a permissions corruption issue.  This blog details it: 
http://www.beyondweblogs.com/post/SharePoint-security-access-denied-permission-corruption-problem-Edit-Item-and-Access-Workflows.aspx

Basically the PermMask field is missing the attribute 
RenderXmlUsingPattern.   I have had this many times on projects and the code 
in the blog fixes it.  You can create new items but cannot edit them and lots 
of the standard options/buttons on the toolbars are 'missing' even when you 
have a 'god' account.

Cheers

Paul T.

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Wampers, Wilson 
[Talent International]
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 4:44 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

Hi Paul,

I've encountered similar issues when using AD Groups combined with SharePoint 
Groups. (in a Kerberos environment).
This appears to cause functionality loss in particular, Presence, Save-As 
functionality, Site Membership, and My SharePoint Sites and perhaps elsewhere 
to?
When resorting to Individual AD Accounts assigned to SharePoint Groups there 
doesn't seem to be any functionality loss.
Hope this helps.
Kind Regards, Wilson
From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 14:01
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

A bit more digging around seems to point to the Profile Import.

Firstly, the scheduled imports aren't running. Neither is the compilation 
schedule for Audiences.

They are set. And there are no errors. They're just not running.

The timer service is running but the Timer Job status window is showing very 
large and consistent gaps.

Don't know whether any of this is related but it should probably be seen to.

Otherwise the boxes are pretty well up-to-date. Users are running IE6 or IE7.

I'll just keep digging. No doubt the problem will resolve itself before I find 
the cause...

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 2:06 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

Thanks guys, I'll check out all those avenues first.

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Thake
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 2:03 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

I have seen this before intermittently and it was an issue with the Domain 
Controller and Kerberos configuration at server level.

But also, are you patched up to the latest patches for SharePoint (December 
2008 Cumulative Update)?

It could possibly be a:

* Server caching issue?

* Client browser caching issue?

* Are you in a farm environment and propagation isn't work properly to 
web front end servers?

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:57 AM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: Permission issues

Hi guys,

We're getting permission and authentication issues (again) which I'm hoping 
someone else has experienced and found a resolution to. Everything was working 
just fine until very recently. No one knows of (or is willing to admit) any 
network related changes.

Scenario: I grant a user contribute  access to a folder in a team site shared 
library using Mange Permissions. I provide the URL to the folder and when 
navigating to it they receive an Access Denied screen. If they click request 
access and access is again granted, they continue to get the Access Denied 
screen.

I have checked and rechecked the permissions on the folder and also at the 
library level (where they have Limited Access). The user exists in all the 
appropriate AD groups and can happily access all the top-level sites.

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? It's driving me nuts. 
Could the mysterious ViewFormPagesLockDown feature be in any way responsible? 
[Just clutching at straws.]

Kind regards,

Paul

RE: Permission issues

2009-02-05 Thread Jeremy Thake
I have seen this before intermittently and it was an issue with the Domain 
Controller and Kerberos configuration at server level.

But also, are you patched up to the latest patches for SharePoint (December 
2008 Cumulative Update)?

It could possibly be a:

* Server caching issue?

* Client browser caching issue?

* Are you in a farm environment and propagation isn't work properly to 
web front end servers?

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:57 AM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: Permission issues

Hi guys,

We're getting permission and authentication issues (again) which I'm hoping 
someone else has experienced and found a resolution to. Everything was working 
just fine until very recently. No one knows of (or is willing to admit) any 
network related changes.

Scenario: I grant a user contribute  access to a folder in a team site shared 
library using Mange Permissions. I provide the URL to the folder and when 
navigating to it they receive an Access Denied screen. If they click request 
access and access is again granted, they continue to get the Access Denied 
screen.

I have checked and rechecked the permissions on the folder and also at the 
library level (where they have Limited Access). The user exists in all the 
appropriate AD groups and can happily access all the top-level sites.

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? It's driving me nuts. 
Could the mysterious ViewFormPagesLockDown feature be in any way responsible? 
[Just clutching at straws.]

Kind regards,

Paul


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RE: Permission issues [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-02-05 Thread Noja, Fadi
Are they also load balanced?  It could be a server caching issue.

 

Fadi

 

 

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Noone
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:57 AM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: Permission issues

 

Hi guys,

 

We're getting permission and authentication issues (again) which I'm
hoping someone else has experienced and found a resolution to.
Everything was working just fine until very recently. No one knows of
(or is willing to admit) any network related changes.

 

Scenario: I grant a user contribute  access to a folder in a team site
shared library using Mange Permissions. I provide the URL to the folder
and when navigating to it they receive an Access Denied screen. If they
click request access and access is again granted, they continue to get
the Access Denied screen.

 

I have checked and rechecked the permissions on the folder and also at
the library level (where they have Limited Access). The user exists in
all the appropriate AD groups and can happily access all the top-level
sites.

 

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? It's driving me
nuts. Could the mysterious ViewFormPagesLockDown feature be in any way
responsible? [Just clutching at straws.]

 

Kind regards,

Paul 

 



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RE: Permission issues

2009-02-05 Thread Brian Farnhill
I don't think the ViewFormPagesLockDown feature is to blame here, that is only 
going to affect anonymous users from what I know of it, so if your user is 
authenticated and logged in then there won't be any dramas at all. The easy way 
to verify that though would be to see if they can create a list item somewhere 
in the same site, if they can then there is definately nothing going on with 
that feature.

Is there anything in the 12 log to indicate what else could be going wrong 
there?

Brian Farnhill
Consultant
Technical Consulting

Direct:   02 6225 4307
Main: 02 6225 4333
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Microsoft Certified Application Developer

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone 
[paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au]
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 1:57 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: Permission issues

Hi guys,

We’re getting permission and authentication issues (again) which I’m hoping 
someone else has experienced and found a resolution to. Everything was working 
just fine until very recently. No one knows of (or is willing to admit) any 
network related changes.

Scenario: I grant a user contribute  access to a folder in a team site shared 
library using Mange Permissions. I provide the URL to the folder and when 
navigating to it they receive an Access Denied screen. If they click “request 
access” and access is again granted, they continue to get the Access Denied 
screen.

I have checked and rechecked the permissions on the folder and also at the 
library level (where they have Limited Access). The user exists in all the 
appropriate AD groups and can happily access all the top-level sites.

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? It’s driving me nuts. 
Could the mysterious ViewFormPagesLockDown feature be in any way responsible? 
[Just clutching at straws.]

Kind regards,

Paul


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RE: Permission issues [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-02-05 Thread Noja, Fadi
I also had that issue, but mine was cause by IE8 beta.  What browser are
they using?

 



From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Brian
Farnhill
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 2:05 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

 

I don't think the ViewFormPagesLockDown feature is to blame here, that
is only going to affect anonymous users from what I know of it, so if
your user is authenticated and logged in then there won't be any dramas
at all. The easy way to verify that though would be to see if they can
create a list item somewhere in the same site, if they can then there is
definately nothing going on with that feature.

 

Is there anything in the 12 log to indicate what else could be going
wrong there?

 

Brian Farnhill 
Consultant
Technical Consulting 

Direct:   02 6225 4307
Main: 02 6225 4333
Mobile:   0408 289 303
Fax:  02 6225 4334
Email:brian.farnh...@uniqueworld.net
mailto:brian.farnh...@uniqueworld.net 
Web: www.uniqueworld.net http://www.uniqueworld.net 
Blog: pointstoshare.spaces.live.com
http://pointstoshare.spaces.live.com/ 

Microsoft Certified Application Developer



From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
[paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au]
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 1:57 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: Permission issues

Hi guys,

 

We're getting permission and authentication issues (again) which I'm
hoping someone else has experienced and found a resolution to.
Everything was working just fine until very recently. No one knows of
(or is willing to admit) any network related changes.

 

Scenario: I grant a user contribute  access to a folder in a team site
shared library using Mange Permissions. I provide the URL to the folder
and when navigating to it they receive an Access Denied screen. If they
click request access and access is again granted, they continue to get
the Access Denied screen.

 

I have checked and rechecked the permissions on the folder and also at
the library level (where they have Limited Access). The user exists in
all the appropriate AD groups and can happily access all the top-level
sites.

 

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? It's driving me
nuts. Could the mysterious ViewFormPagesLockDown feature be in any way
responsible? [Just clutching at straws.]

 

Kind regards,

Paul 

 



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RE: Permission issues

2009-02-05 Thread Paul Noone
Thanks guys, I'll check out all those avenues first.

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Thake
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 2:03 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

I have seen this before intermittently and it was an issue with the Domain 
Controller and Kerberos configuration at server level.

But also, are you patched up to the latest patches for SharePoint (December 
2008 Cumulative Update)?

It could possibly be a:

* Server caching issue?

* Client browser caching issue?

* Are you in a farm environment and propagation isn't work properly to 
web front end servers?

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:57 AM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: Permission issues

Hi guys,

We're getting permission and authentication issues (again) which I'm hoping 
someone else has experienced and found a resolution to. Everything was working 
just fine until very recently. No one knows of (or is willing to admit) any 
network related changes.

Scenario: I grant a user contribute  access to a folder in a team site shared 
library using Mange Permissions. I provide the URL to the folder and when 
navigating to it they receive an Access Denied screen. If they click request 
access and access is again granted, they continue to get the Access Denied 
screen.

I have checked and rechecked the permissions on the folder and also at the 
library level (where they have Limited Access). The user exists in all the 
appropriate AD groups and can happily access all the top-level sites.

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? It's driving me nuts. 
Could the mysterious ViewFormPagesLockDown feature be in any way responsible? 
[Just clutching at straws.]

Kind regards,

Paul


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RE: Permission issues

2009-02-05 Thread Paul Noone
A bit more digging around seems to point to the Profile Import.

Firstly, the scheduled imports aren't running. Neither is the compilation 
schedule for Audiences.

They are set. And there are no errors. They're just not running.

The timer service is running but the Timer Job status window is showing very 
large and consistent gaps.

Don't know whether any of this is related but it should probably be seen to.

Otherwise the boxes are pretty well up-to-date. Users are running IE6 or IE7.

I'll just keep digging. No doubt the problem will resolve itself before I find 
the cause...

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 2:06 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

Thanks guys, I'll check out all those avenues first.

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Thake
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 2:03 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

I have seen this before intermittently and it was an issue with the Domain 
Controller and Kerberos configuration at server level.

But also, are you patched up to the latest patches for SharePoint (December 
2008 Cumulative Update)?

It could possibly be a:

* Server caching issue?

* Client browser caching issue?

* Are you in a farm environment and propagation isn't work properly to 
web front end servers?

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:57 AM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: Permission issues

Hi guys,

We're getting permission and authentication issues (again) which I'm hoping 
someone else has experienced and found a resolution to. Everything was working 
just fine until very recently. No one knows of (or is willing to admit) any 
network related changes.

Scenario: I grant a user contribute  access to a folder in a team site shared 
library using Mange Permissions. I provide the URL to the folder and when 
navigating to it they receive an Access Denied screen. If they click request 
access and access is again granted, they continue to get the Access Denied 
screen.

I have checked and rechecked the permissions on the folder and also at the 
library level (where they have Limited Access). The user exists in all the 
appropriate AD groups and can happily access all the top-level sites.

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? It's driving me nuts. 
Could the mysterious ViewFormPagesLockDown feature be in any way responsible? 
[Just clutching at straws.]

Kind regards,

Paul


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RE: Permission issues

2009-02-05 Thread Wampers, Wilson [Talent International]
Hi Paul,

 

I've encountered similar issues when using AD Groups combined with
SharePoint Groups. (in a Kerberos environment).

This appears to cause functionality loss in particular, Presence,
Save-As functionality, Site Membership, and My SharePoint Sites and
perhaps elsewhere to?

When resorting to Individual AD Accounts assigned to SharePoint Groups
there doesn't seem to be any functionality loss.

Hope this helps.

Kind Regards, Wilson 

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Noone
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 14:01
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

 

A bit more digging around seems to point to the Profile Import.

 

Firstly, the scheduled imports aren't running. Neither is the
compilation schedule for Audiences.

 

They are set. And there are no errors. They're just not running.

 

The timer service is running but the Timer Job status window is showing
very large and consistent gaps.

 

Don't know whether any of this is related but it should probably be seen
to.

 

Otherwise the boxes are pretty well up-to-date. Users are running IE6 or
IE7.

 

I'll just keep digging. No doubt the problem will resolve itself before
I find the cause...

 

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Noone
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 2:06 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

 

Thanks guys, I'll check out all those avenues first.

 

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Thake
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 2:03 PM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Permission issues

 

I have seen this before intermittently and it was an issue with the
Domain Controller and Kerberos configuration at server level.

 

But also, are you patched up to the latest patches for SharePoint
(December 2008 Cumulative Update)?

 

It could possibly be a:

* Server caching issue?

* Client browser caching issue?

* Are you in a farm environment and propagation isn't work
properly to web front end servers?

 

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Noone
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:57 AM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: Permission issues

 

Hi guys,

 

We're getting permission and authentication issues (again) which I'm
hoping someone else has experienced and found a resolution to.
Everything was working just fine until very recently. No one knows of
(or is willing to admit) any network related changes.

 

Scenario: I grant a user contribute  access to a folder in a team site
shared library using Mange Permissions. I provide the URL to the folder
and when navigating to it they receive an Access Denied screen. If they
click request access and access is again granted, they continue to get
the Access Denied screen.

 

I have checked and rechecked the permissions on the folder and also at
the library level (where they have Limited Access). The user exists in
all the appropriate AD groups and can happily access all the top-level
sites.

 

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? It's driving me
nuts. Could the mysterious ViewFormPagesLockDown feature be in any way
responsible? [Just clutching at straws.]

 

Kind regards,

Paul 

 



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