Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread Keith McGuinness
William Robb wrote:
 Since the law itself is very open to individual interpretation, it is a bit 
 dangerous to have a picture of a naked child on a computer hard drive, even 
 if it is in a residual cache, rather than formally saved.
 I really wish some of these Europeans would get it through their heads that 
 this kind of stuff can cause People in North America problems and not post 
 it without warning.
 I stopped looking at anything from Dag ages ago because he is an asshole in 
 this regard.

I don't know that I blame the Europeans that much (if at all).

Issues like this are inevitable, given the international nature 
of the internet.

Also, with all due respect, the US attitude is likely to seem 
quite strange to many Europeans. Some probably have considerable 
difficulty appreciating how serious the consequences of an 
apparently innocent act can be.

The situation in Australia is not as bad as in the US, although 
it varies from place to place and, given certain circumstances, 
it could be. (I can't say for Canada.) At times, the attitudes 
are so contradictory as to be schizophrenic.

Keith McG

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RE: PESO: Summer Sunset

2006-07-20 Thread Jens Bladt
That's right, Bruce. If you see it as an image.
But, as I have said before - when it comes to watching images, people can be
devided in two groups:
Those who look at the image as an image.
And those who look at what ever is in the image.

People, who live here would be in the last category - they would like to see
more of the coastline, regardsless of image quality issues.
If this image was printed 2 m (6 feet) with, surely people would be able to
recognize details in the landscape - perhaps even their own home ;-)

Normally I belong to the first group - and would agree with you. But images
like this are meant for viewing by people in the local comunity.

What I find interesting is, that the colours are exceptionally true to real
life - no warming of the sunset colours.
It's was not a cold night, and during the day we had appr. 30 degrees
Celsius

Regards

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oops - I meant the left half of the image...brain fart - sorry.

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Wednesday, July 19, 2006, 3:09:49 PM, you wrote:

BD Interesting...It is a sunset, but has a coolness to it, like it is
BD rather cold outside.  That aspect interests me.  I looked at several
BD sizes of this as they were available.  The small one looked pretty
BD nice as a pano, but as I increased in size to the largest, I didn't
BD find that there was anything in the right half of the image that was
BD worth looking at.  IOW, it worked just fine for me as about half the
BD image area, all on the right side.  Hope this makes sense.

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BD Wednesday, July 19, 2006, 2:59:46 PM, you wrote:

JB I colleaque of mine lives very near the sea (most Danes do ;-).
JB When I visited him earlier this evening, I did this sunset image:
JB http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/193652447/

JB Regards
JB Jens

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Re: PESO - Jente på plenen

2006-07-20 Thread Toralf Lund
Jack Davis wrote:
 You did! 
 Was it something she just read? A far off sound? 
 No way of deciding, obviously, but it's the curiosity it provokes
 that's intriguing.
   
Exactly! I didn't notice anything at the time that she might be looking 
at, either.

Glad you like it. Thanks.
 The background roadway/walkway doesn't add, but not a real problem for
 me.
   
Good. Not sure if I could have done anything about it...


- Toralf
 Jack



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 I said something about PESOs, didn't I? Well, here is one:

 http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=plenen

 There was just *something* about her expression... Not sure if I
 managed 
 to capture it, as usual.

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Re: PESO - Voodoo Doll

2006-07-20 Thread Toralf Lund

 This shot just brings to mind a voodoo doll just made and ready to be
 used.  The other strange thought that came to me was Marvin the
 Martian.
   
Maybe. You have good imagination, I think (which is a Good Thing)...

I also like the picture. Nice light.

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Re: PESO: Crystal Bay Silhouette

2006-07-20 Thread Toralf Lund

 I really just
 stopped to check out what was going on with the sunlight.
 Always felt guilty for having such luck.

 Always inviting comments.
   
I rather like the sky in this one. The contrast between the blue and 
grey, and the way the clouds have a certain depth. And also the 
reflections in the water...

Good shot!

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Re: PESO: two more

2006-07-20 Thread David Savage
At 02:39 PM 20/07/2006, Jostein wrote:
May not mean much to people who can't read French, though...:-)

I can read it.

I just don't know what says :-)

Dave


Jostein

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  and
 
  http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1542700
 
  Comments and suggestions are, as always, most welcome.
 
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Re: PESO: two more

2006-07-20 Thread Jostein Øksne
Fotosight.ru refuse to show me the second image, but I really liked
the first one. The sign makes it. Makes me wonder what kind of quality
substance the once was, running to the pipeline.

May not mean much to people who can't read French, though...:-)

Jostein

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 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/6177055

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RE: PESO: Sierra Ranch

2006-07-20 Thread Jens Bladt
Very nice photograph, Jack. The colours look a little like it came from an
old geography book - I think there's a tiny hint of yellow cast - or what?
Regards
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Moving on to another barn. Sierra Co, CA cabin and barn drive by shot
of a few years back.
Last barn for the time being.
Comments appreciated!

Jack

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Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment

2006-07-20 Thread Don Williams
What program did you sue to make the correction?

Don

John Francis wrote:
 It looks as though you've squashed it a little vertically
 in the process of correcting the perspective.

 On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:38:11AM -0500, Brian Walters wrote:
   
 Hi all

 I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the sandstone walls of
 an old church in western Sydney.  Unfortunately it suffered from
 converging verticals so I had a go at correcting the perspective.

 It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done better.

 The adjusted image is at the top of the following link page and the
 original image is at the bottom:

 http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html



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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread DagT
Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.16 skrev William Robb:


 - Original Message -
 From: Keith McGuinness
 Subject: Re: PESO - Jump


 I stopped looking at anything from Dag ages ago because he is an  
 asshole in
 this regard.

 William Robb

And that, of course, is what you have to do. The responsibility is on  
your side, and as you never can know what is in the other end of an  
internet link you have to be extremely careful.

Maybe I´ll put the text Safe for William Robb and others if I want  
you to have a look .-)

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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread DagT
Good point .-)

I never have the time to follow this list at work...

DagT

Den 19. jul. 2006 kl. 11.01 skrev David Savage:

 Shouldn't you be working instead of browsing the PDML?

 vbg

 Dave (at work)

 On 7/19/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I agree that it's a beautiful photo of an innocent child. But that
 being said, I don't want to lose my job. So a warning would be nice.
 Not Office Friendly is a common and effective one.
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Re: PESO: Lonely Bull(?)

2006-07-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Indignant? demeaning? surely not. Certainly no intention.  8^\
As I said, it's your photo and if you're satisfied with it, life is  
good.

I've never heard *anyone* refer to Photoshop tools as 'enhancement  
and its submenus' before! The metaphor of that language simply  
doesn't make any sense to me at all. I'm used to a somewhat more  
specific vocabulary referring to Photoshop. Sorry if that sounded  
disrespectful.

G


On Jul 19, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

 They are, of course, Photoshop tool references.
 I tried to respect your ideas and give validity while explaining why I
 rendered it as I did.
 You sound a bit indignant and your tone demeaning.
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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread DagT

Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness:

 I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've
 got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be
 different, not only the customs.

Well, that only brings a new problem.  How much do we have to know  
about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about our law, and  
how much do we know about other countries?

In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I may  
remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against  
showing pubic hair.  So shaved models got through. How was I supposed  
to know, or understand, that?

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Perspective correction side effects (WAS: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment)

2006-07-20 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
But...is it possible to correct perspecive without
distorting other parts of the picture?

I always get the same effect as Brian, I correct the
perspective (with the Photoshop feature) but the
building doors are squashed vertically.

Is there another way to do it?

Thanks,
Jaume

 --- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 
 It looks as though you've squashed it a little
 vertically
 in the process of correcting the perspective.
 
 On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:38:11AM -0500, Brian
 Walters wrote:
  Hi all
  
  I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the
 sandstone walls of
  an old church in western Sydney.  Unfortunately it
 suffered from
  converging verticals so I had a go at correcting
 the perspective.
  
  It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done
 better.
  
  The adjusted image is at the top of the following
 link page and the
  original image is at the bottom:
  
 

http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html
  
  
  
  Comments and suggestions welcome.  Technical
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  clicking the i icon.
  
  
  Cheers
  
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PEOW: Another GBH Portrait

2006-07-20 Thread Jay Taylor
I have not been able to get out and do much shooting as of late since  
I'm busy trying to move into a new home my wife and I are purchasing.  
That coupled with the start of Salmon fishing season has kept me away  
from my camera. This is another of my Great Blue Heron images  
captured with the *istDL and the FA*300 f4.5 + F1.7X adapter.  The  
full res image looked pretty awesome on this shot. For this web  
resized version I experimented with blurring the background more at  
an attempt to create a more pleasing bokeh. As always comments and  
suggestions are helpful.

Thanks,
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Re: Zigview Digital Finder Accessory at KEH

2006-07-20 Thread Toralf Lund

 Just what the subject says.  For anyone interested look under Pentax 
 Digital Finder accessories.
I think we've discussed this gadget here before. I like the idea 
somewhat, but it costs more than I'm willing to pay. I once thought 
about building my own variant based on a broken digicam. I'm still 
thinking about it, but I've never got around to actually trying to do it...

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Re: PESO: two more

2006-07-20 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Fotosight.ru refuse to show me the second image, but I really liked
 the first one. 

The second has turned out to be such a flop that I've decided to replace
it by this one:

http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1544630

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Re: PEOW: Another GBH Portrait

2006-07-20 Thread Christian
Jay Taylor wrote:
 I have not been able to get out and do much shooting as of late since  
 I'm busy trying to move into a new home my wife and I are purchasing.  
 That coupled with the start of Salmon fishing season has kept me away  
 from my camera. This is another of my Great Blue Heron images  
 captured with the *istDL and the FA*300 f4.5 + F1.7X adapter.  The  
 full res image looked pretty awesome on this shot. For this web  
 resized version I experimented with blurring the background more at  
 an attempt to create a more pleasing bokeh. As always comments and  
 suggestions are helpful.
 
 Thanks,
 JayT
 http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/63808751.VbQd49L0.GBHPortrait3.jpg
 

It's a really sharp image, but like the other shot a while back (not 
sure from whom), I dislike disembodied head shots of herons, egrets and 
cranes.  They just look all wrong. :-)

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Re: Perspective correction side effects (WAS: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment)

2006-07-20 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:52:08 +0200 schreef Jaume Lahuerta  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 But...is it possible to correct perspecive without
 distorting other parts of the picture?

Actually, the perspective is correct in the original picture, I think? The  
low point-of view results in a vanishing point for the vertical lines,  
nothing to do about it...

 I always get the same effect as Brian, I correct the
 perspective (with the Photoshop feature) but the
 building doors are squashed vertically.

 Is there another way to do it?

You could stretch it vertically afterwards. I think you have to eyeball  
it, which might be hard... Leaving in some convergence on the verticals  
tends to result in a more natuaral-looking picture in my experience as  
well.

  --- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:


 It looks as though you've squashed it a little
 vertically
 in the process of correcting the perspective.

 On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:38:11AM -0500, Brian
 Walters wrote:
  Hi all
 
  I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the
 sandstone walls of
  an old church in western Sydney.  Unfortunately it
 suffered from
  converging verticals so I had a go at correcting
 the perspective.
 
  It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done
 better.
 
  The adjusted image is at the top of the following
 link page and the
  original image is at the bottom:
 
 

 http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html
 
 
 
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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread P. J. Alling
You can ask.

DagT wrote:

Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness:

  

I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've
got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be
different, not only the customs.



Well, that only brings a new problem.  How much do we have to know  
about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about our law, and  
how much do we know about other countries?

In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I may  
remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against  
showing pubic hair.  So shaved models got through. How was I supposed  
to know, or understand, that?

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Re: PESO - Owl

2006-07-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/19/2006 5:54:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
istDL, 200mm  f/4 SMC, iso 800. The image is cropped about 50%.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/IMGP24115x7cropweb.jpg

Walt
==
Very, very nice shot of an owl. You can really see all the details in the 
feathers.

I do find the brokeh in the background annoying though. I think, if it were 
me, I'd go into PS and blur it even more. To get rid of the circles, and 
conflicting colors. Maybe even change the hue in the background a bit.

But you really got that guy.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

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Re: PESO - Voodoo Doll

2006-07-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/19/2006 10:21:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This shot just brings to mind a voodoo doll just made and ready to be
used.  The other strange thought that came to me was Marvin the
Martian.

Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld
ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3177a.htm

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===
You see the darndest things out there in the world, Bruce. I thought I had a 
good imagination, but you have me beat by a mile.

It does look like a voodoo doll. Nice shot, I like the back lighting.

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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread David Mann
On Jul 20, 2006, at 4:05 PM, Keith McGuinness wrote:

 The trouble is that the laws in some places are such that you
 could get charged with an offense just for looking at such a
 photo, regardless of your reasons for doing so.

The difficult thing about applying that to the internet is that often  
you have absolutely no idea what's in that email attachment, or at  
the other end of that URL, until after you've opened it.

 In the US (which I am not) people have been charged just for
 taking photos of their own children in the bath.

That kind of thing is starting to happen here:
http://www.starcanterbury.co.nz/localnews/storydisplay.cfm? 
storyid=3692452thesection=localnewsthesubsection=thesecondsubsection=

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Re: Perspective correction side effects (WAS: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment)

2006-07-20 Thread Don Williams
I have CS and there seems to be no perspective correction filter -- only 
funny stuff. I think Paintshop Pro had one.

Don

Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
 But...is it possible to correct perspecive without
 distorting other parts of the picture?

 I always get the same effect as Brian, I correct the
 perspective (with the Photoshop feature) but the
 building doors are squashed vertically.

 Is there another way to do it?

 Thanks,
 Jaume

  --- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

   
 It looks as though you've squashed it a little
 vertically
 in the process of correcting the perspective.

 On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:38:11AM -0500, Brian
 Walters wrote:
 
 Hi all

 I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the
   
 sandstone walls of
 
 an old church in western Sydney.  Unfortunately it
   
 suffered from
 
 converging verticals so I had a go at correcting
   
 the perspective.
 
 It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done
   
 better.
 
 The adjusted image is at the top of the following
   
 link page and the
 
 original image is at the bottom:


   
 http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html
   

 Comments and suggestions welcome.  Technical
   
 details available by
 
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Re: PESO: Four Generations, One Moment

2006-07-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/19/2006 7:47:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Some of you know that both my 90 year old mother and my almost two year 
old granddaughter, Grace,  live with me. Tonight, my granddaughter 
climbed up on my mother's lap and started reading a book to her. My 
mother has a severe osteoporosis and can't hold her head up, but she 
listened to every word. My granddaughter can't read of course, but she 
makes up some bits and pieces along the way. I ran for the camera, 
turned on the FA 50/1.4 and got off a couple of shots before mom 
couldn't hold Grace any more. The composition is poor, but the moment 
may never be repeated again.
Paul
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4704528size=lg

Nice. Touching moment. I don't think the composition is that poor, either. 
Just tone down the napkin so it's not so white and you have a winner.

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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread DagT
I know

Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 10.44 skrev P. J. Alling:

 You can ask.

 DagT wrote:

 Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness:



 I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've
 got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be
 different, not only the customs.



 Well, that only brings a new problem.  How much do we have to know
 about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about our law, and
 how much do we know about other countries?

 In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I may
 remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against
 showing pubic hair.  So shaved models got through. How was I supposed
 to know, or understand, that?

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Re: PESO: Summer Sunset

2006-07-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/19/2006 3:06:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I colleaque of mine lives very near the sea (most Danes do ;-).
When I visited him earlier this evening, I did this sunset image:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/193652447/

Regards
Jens
===
That is really lovely, Jens. I may like it best of all your panos to date. 
(Maybe not -- I haven't seen the one of your home town recently.)

Lovely gradation of gentle, soft colors and excellent composition.

You probably can tell I really like it. :-)

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Re: PESO: Summer Sunset

2006-07-20 Thread David Mann
Your left or our left? :)

- Dave

On Jul 20, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 oops - I meant the left half of the image...brain fart - sorry.

 Wednesday, July 19, 2006, 3:09:49 PM, you wrote:

 BD Interesting...It is a sunset, but has a coolness to it, like it is
 BD rather cold outside.  That aspect interests me.  I looked at  
 several
 BD sizes of this as they were available.  The small one looked pretty
 BD nice as a pano, but as I increased in size to the largest, I  
 didn't
 BD find that there was anything in the right half of the image  
 that was
 BD worth looking at.  IOW, it worked just fine for me as about  
 half the
 BD image area, all on the right side.  Hope this makes sense.


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Re: PESO: Summer Sunset

2006-07-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/19/2006 3:06:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I colleaque of mine lives very near the sea (most Danes do ;-).
When I visited him earlier this evening, I did this sunset image:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/193652447/

Regards
Jens
===
After reading some others' comments, Jens, I thought I'd elaborate why I 
really like it.

I had to click on it to see it larger, of course, the small one is too small.

You captured conflicting elements very well -- juxtaposition of opposites. 
Warmth and cool (even cold). Emptiness/loneliness and togetherness. The buoy at 
one end in the really cool -- buoys are always sort of lonely things to me -- 
and togetherness with warmth at the other end. On top of that there is a 
person walking on the bridge to join the other two.

The gradation of colors is lovely and, also, it makes me feel as if I was 
there.

In other words, it is really nice.

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Re: PESO: Crystal Bay Silhouette

2006-07-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/19/2006 9:19:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Seems each time I decide to upload an image I recall it was shot at
least a few years ago. (True of a number of things)
Driving around Lake Tahoe when, suddenly, the light was different.
Next pull-off was, fortunately, where this was shot. I really just
stopped to check out what was going on with the sunlight.
Always felt guilty for having such luck.

Always inviting comments.

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=141
===
Nice. Not the best so far in your recent gem hunting, but close to it. 

I don't think there is a lot of luck in photography. Sure, it helps 100% to 
be getting out and about in pretty scenery (if doing landscapes) versus being 
stuck in familiar boring surroundings. 

But luck? Nyah, just having a good eye.

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Re: GESO Scout camp

2006-07-20 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote:

 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/extra/egallery/pcat/218194/display/6191849

???

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Re: PESO: Lonely Bull(?)

2006-07-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/19/2006 4:50:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=143
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Very nice. The tint, surprisingly, works.

Like it.

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Re: GESO Scout camp

2006-07-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/19/2006 4:19:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/extra/egallery/pcat/218194/display/6191849

The lamb from the fields in the farm next door is still too radioactive 
to sell directly to the public, due to Chernobyl.

mike
==
???

Can't find the scout camp photos, just get your general page and it has 
things I've seen before, but can't pinpoint where the specific photos you mean 
are.

That sentence is too long. It's late. But you get the idea.

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Re: PESO - Blue Heron

2006-07-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/18/2006 9:04:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At least I think it is.  This was taken on the same walk yesterday as
the egrets.  The odd looking patterns you see in the background are, I
believe, reflections from trees and foliage.  I shot from a small hill
above the bird so he was entirely surrounded by water and all the
background is a reflection.

Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld
ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3192a.htm

Comments welcome.

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==
Really nice shot of bird. He really pops. 

Not sure what all those wavy lines are in the brokeh, but they are really, 
really distracting.

Looks weird too, like water or something is running through the pic.

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Re: GESO Scout camp

2006-07-20 Thread mike wilson
  Downloads seem to be a trifle slow at the moment.  Maybe it's very 
popular.

8-)
 
 From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/20 Thu AM 09:15:02 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: GESO Scout camp
 
 On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote:
 
  http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/extra/egallery/pcat/218194/display/6191849
 
 ???
 
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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread mike wilson
But only if you know what the question is.
 
 From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/20 Thu AM 08:41:31 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
 
 I know
 
 Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 10.44 skrev P. J. Alling:
 
  You can ask.
 
  DagT wrote:
 
  Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness:
 
 
 
  I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've
  got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be
  different, not only the customs.
 
 
 
  Well, that only brings a new problem.  How much do we have to know
  about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about our law, and
  how much do we know about other countries?
 
  In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I may
  remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against
  showing pubic hair.  So shaved models got through. How was I supposed
  to know, or understand, that?
 
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Re: More Fungus!

2006-07-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/18/2006 12:44:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks! Just added two more:
http://www.robertstech.com/fungus.htm
(The last two on the page.)

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Nice, Mark. Worthy additions.

Who ever thought fungi (?) could be so pretty.

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Re: GESO Scout camp

2006-07-20 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/20 Thu AM 09:24:06 GMT
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: GESO Scout camp
 
 In a message dated 7/19/2006 4:19:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/extra/egallery/pcat/218194/display/6191849
 
 The lamb from the fields in the farm next door is still too radioactive 
 to sell directly to the public, due to Chernobyl.
 
 mike
 ==
 ???
 
 Can't find the scout camp photos, just get your general page and it has 
 things I've seen before, but can't pinpoint where the specific photos you 
 mean are.
 
 That sentence is too long. It's late. But you get the idea.
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)

Hmmm.  I've not got the pictures on public view yet but you should be able to 
access them from that link.  Operator error again, no doubt.  I'll set them up 
for public access and post again.  My apologies.

m

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Re: PESO - Owl

2006-07-20 Thread Keith McGuinness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 7/19/2006 5:54:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 istDL, 200mm  f/4 SMC, iso 800. The image is cropped about 50%.
 
 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/IMGP24115x7cropweb.jpg
 
 Walt
 ==
 Very, very nice shot of an owl. You can really see all the details in the 
 feathers.
 
 I do find the brokeh in the background annoying though. I think, if it were 
 me, I'd go into PS and blur it even more. To get rid of the circles, and 
 conflicting colors. Maybe even change the hue in the background a bit.

I agree -- really nice -- but for me the background is too light.

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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread Keith McGuinness
David Mann wrote:
 That kind of thing is starting to happen here:
 http://www.starcanterbury.co.nz/localnews/storydisplay.cfm? 
 storyid=3692452thesection=localnewsthesubsection=thesecondsubsection=

The link is incomplete but I found the story you were referring 
to and it is the sort of thing that is happening.

It's all rather strange.

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Re: Adobe Lightroom for Windows (almost) available now

2006-07-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/19/2006 1:50:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I keep feeling that I'm missing something.

Godfrey
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I'm missing what Lightroom is supposed to be.

I know Elements, and some of PS. How is Lightroom supposed to be different 
and/or better?

Marnie aka the clueless

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Re: PESO: Summer Sunset

2006-07-20 Thread Keith McGuinness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 7/19/2006 3:06:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I colleaque of mine lives very near the sea (most Danes do ;-).
 When I visited him earlier this evening, I did this sunset image:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/193652447/
 
 Regards
 Jens
 ===
 You captured conflicting elements very well -- juxtaposition of opposites. 
 Warmth and cool (even cold). Emptiness/loneliness and togetherness. The buoy 
 at 
 one end in the really cool -- buoys are always sort of lonely things to me -- 
 and togetherness with warmth at the other end. On top of that there is a 
 person walking on the bridge to join the other two.
 
 The gradation of colors is lovely and, also, it makes me feel as if I was 
 there.


I'm agree with Marnie again. I don't think that the right is too 
empty. I DO think that the horizon is too central. Tricky to do 
anything with in this format, though.

Most Danes live near the sea...that's from centuries of leaping 
into longboats to... 8-)

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Re: PEOW: Another GBH Portrait

2006-07-20 Thread Keith McGuinness
Christian wrote:
 Jay Taylor wrote:
 I have not been able to get out and do much shooting as of late since  
 I'm busy trying to move into a new home my wife and I are purchasing.  
 That coupled with the start of Salmon fishing season has kept me away  
 from my camera. This is another of my Great Blue Heron images  
 captured with the *istDL and the FA*300 f4.5 + F1.7X adapter.  The  
 full res image looked pretty awesome on this shot. For this web  
 resized version I experimented with blurring the background more at  
 an attempt to create a more pleasing bokeh. As always comments and  
 suggestions are helpful.

 Thanks,
 JayT
 http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/63808751.VbQd49L0.GBHPortrait3.jpg

 It's a really sharp image, but like the other shot a while back (not 
 sure from whom), I dislike disembodied head shots of herons, egrets and 
 cranes.  They just look all wrong. :-)

Nicely taken; texture on feathers is great.

I think the crop is too close; the heron looks squeezed in the 
frame. Also I think you may have overdone the blur and that makes 
it look a bit strange.

Just IMO.

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Re: GESO Scout camp

2006-07-20 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/20 Thu AM 09:24:06 GMT
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: GESO Scout camp
 
 In a message dated 7/19/2006 4:19:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/extra/egallery/pcat/218194/display/6191849
 
 The lamb from the fields in the farm next door is still too radioactive 
 to sell directly to the public, due to Chernobyl.
 
 mike
 ==
 ???
 
 Can't find the scout camp photos, just get your general page and it has 
 things I've seen before, but can't pinpoint where the specific photos you 
 mean are.
 
 That sentence is too long. It's late. But you get the idea.
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)

Try this:
http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253g=218194

Click on top left and then the arrows above to navigate.

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Re: Perspective correction side effects (WAS: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment)

2006-07-20 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
It is not a filter:
Menu: Edit-Transform-Perspective

see:
http://www.outbackphoto.com/workshop/PSPerspectiveCorrection/PhotoshopPerspectiveCorrection.html


 --- Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 I have CS and there seems to be no perspective
 correction filter -- only 
 funny stuff. I think Paintshop Pro had one.
 
 Don
 
 Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
  But...is it possible to correct perspecive without
  distorting other parts of the picture?
 
  I always get the same effect as Brian, I correct
 the
  perspective (with the Photoshop feature) but the
  building doors are squashed vertically.
 
  Is there another way to do it?
 
  Thanks,
  Jaume
 
   --- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 

  It looks as though you've squashed it a little
  vertically
  in the process of correcting the perspective.
 
  On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:38:11AM -0500, Brian
  Walters wrote:
  
  Hi all
 
  I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on
 the

  sandstone walls of
  
  an old church in western Sydney.  Unfortunately
 it

  suffered from
  
  converging verticals so I had a go at correcting

  the perspective.
  
  It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done

  better.
  
  The adjusted image is at the top of the
 following

  link page and the
  
  original image is at the bottom:
 
 

 

http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html

 
  Comments and suggestions welcome.  Technical

  details available by
  
  clicking the i icon.
 
 
  Cheers
 
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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread Keith McGuinness
DagT wrote:
 Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness:
 
 I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've
 got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be
 different, not only the customs.
 
 Well, that only brings a new problem.  How much do we have to know  
 about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about our law, and  
 how much do we know about other countries?

That's the problem with the internet and it is only going to grow 
(in my opinion).

I'm not saying that I expect you to know US law. I don't even 
know all that much Australian law, let alone that from, say, Norway.

What I was trying to say is that such things may not only be a 
matter of custom; certain activities may also actually be 
illegal. Consider the situation with, as I understand it, street 
photography in France (if I've read right, you can't take 
anyone's picture without their explicit permission).

Also, as William Robb said, there is a large amount of latitude 
in the interpretation of some of these laws and for some people 
all nudity, just about regardless of the circumstance, is 
pornography. It makes people, justifiably, nervous.

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Re: GESO Scout camp

2006-07-20 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote:

 Try this:
 http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253g=218194

 Click on top left and then the arrows above to navigate.

Thanks for sharing Mike. Home James is slightly disconcerting :-)

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Re: DA 21mm on film? was Re: SV: 21mm limitted is a jewel ...

2006-07-20 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:25:21 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 I'm sure the DA 21mm, unlike the DA 40mm, won't work very well for  
 35mm
 film, but has anyone tried it, just for grins?  Any test shots out
 there?

I haven't seen anything yet, Mike. The DA21 is just getting into the  
market and DSLR buyers are first to the plate. The relevance of a  
DA21 over an FA20 for film camera users is questionable, since  
they're about the same money and evidently perform very similarly.

I have not made any test shots, but I did mount 
the DA 21 on my MX and the LX. 

It shows severe vignetting with the hood (as expected),
and still very noticable vignetting without it.  It is a rather 
abrupt vignetting in all four corners, with a usable image
circle of about 39 to 40 mm I would say.
(would allow for a 22x33mm crop)

This is as seen on the LX groundglass directly, 
no viewfinder mounted, and nearly closed aperture.

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Re: Adobe Lightroom for Windows (almost) available now

2006-07-20 Thread Thibouille
Same here on my old AMD Duron 1800/ 512 RAM. Quite slow to say the least.
I just hope that updateing the thumbnail will be a one-time process
only, if not I'm in trouble ;)

I was amazed at the size of the download... quite small really.

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Re: PESO - Jente på plenen

2006-07-20 Thread Toralf Lund

 Hello Toralf,

 I can see what you mean about the expression.  It does seem to kind of
 hang on to you and make you keep looking.  Almost like you are trying
 to see what she is seeing/thinking.  I like this one in BW.  Thanks
 for sharing.
   
Glad you like it. Thanks.

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Re: GESO Scout camp

2006-07-20 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/20 Thu AM 10:14:26 GMT
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 Subject: Re: GESO Scout camp
 
 On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote:
 
  Try this:
  http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253g=218194
 
  Click on top left and then the arrows above to navigate.
 
 Thanks for sharing Mike. Home James is slightly disconcerting :-)
 
 Kostas (and is it a Toyota?)
 

No, it's a very naughty boy.  In a Ford Mondeo diesel.  8-)


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PUG Deadline is today........

2006-07-20 Thread Don Sanderson
And I still have nothing to submit for architecture! ;-(
Buncha crap, but nothing good.
Between the 100 gegree days, storms and doing 2 peoples jobs
there hasn't been much opportunity for photography.
Still have today though, always did work better under pressure. ;-)


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Re: Adobe Lightroom for Windows (almost) available now

2006-07-20 Thread Adam Maas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 7/19/2006 1:50:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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 I keep feeling that I'm missing something.
 
 Godfrey
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 I'm missing what Lightroom is supposed to be.
 
 I know Elements, and some of PS. How is Lightroom supposed to be different 
 and/or better?
 
 Marnie aka the clueless
 

It's designed purely for photography and integrates the basic editing 
with file navigation and RAW conversion rather than having to use 
different interfaces for everything. It also functions as an Image 
Management program, making it very easy to sort and tag your images.

Really worth checking out, if you have enough RAM and CPU. The speed is 
very acceptable on my Sempron 1.8GHz with 1GB RAM (low-end Compaq box)

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Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment

2006-07-20 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Don

I'm using Photoshop Elements 1.  I tried the Perspective tool but
couldn't get it to look right so I ended up using the Distort
tool.


Cheers

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 What program did you sue to make the correction?
 
 Don
 
 John Francis wrote:
  It looks as though you've squashed it a little vertically
  in the process of correcting the perspective.
 




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Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment

2006-07-20 Thread Brian Walters
Yes - I noticed that too.  However, trying to stretch it vertically
tends to lose the top spire.

Thanks for the comment, John.


Cheers

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Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 It looks as though you've squashed it a little vertically
 in the process of correcting the perspective.
 
 On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:38:11AM -0500, Brian Walters wrote:
  Hi all
  
  I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the sandstone
 walls of
  an old church in western Sydney.  Unfortunately it suffered from
  converging verticals so I had a go at correcting the
 perspective.
  
  It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done better.
  
  The adjusted image is at the top of the following link page and
 the
  original image is at the bottom:
  
  http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html
  
  
  
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OT Bad behaviour

2006-07-20 Thread mike wilson
From an entirely unrelated board.
==
Then my last observation is that in Toronto traffic generally stopped but one 
evening Heather and I were crossing the road and a bicyclist swerved over into 
us and shouted go home tourist! Hehhehehh.  We both laughed but got out 
of the street in case he came back to challenge us to a hockey game or 
something.
==

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Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment

2006-07-20 Thread Jack Davis
Brian,
You appear to have done a fine job at something I haven't even tried.
Wonderful lighting nicely framed.

Jack

--- Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all
 
 I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the sandstone walls of
 an old church in western Sydney.  Unfortunately it suffered from
 converging verticals so I had a go at correcting the perspective.
 
 It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done better.
 
 The adjusted image is at the top of the following link page and the
 original image is at the bottom:
 
 http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html
 
 
 
 Comments and suggestions welcome.  Technical details available by
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 Cheers
 
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Re: PESO: Lonely Bull(?)

2006-07-20 Thread Jack Davis
Marnie,
I'm surprised each time I look at this image. It shouldn't work, but
somehow does..for me also.

Jack

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 Very nice. The tint, surprisingly, works.
 
 Like it.
 
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Re: PESO: Crystal Bay Silhouette

2006-07-20 Thread Jack Davis
Marnie,
Embarrassingly generous comments.
Thanks so much.

Jack

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 Seems each time I decide to upload an image I recall it was shot at
 least a few years ago. (True of a number of things)
 Driving around Lake Tahoe when, suddenly, the light was different.
 Next pull-off was, fortunately, where this was shot. I really just
 stopped to check out what was going on with the sunlight.
 Always felt guilty for having such luck.
 
 Always inviting comments.
 
 Jack
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=141
 ===
 Nice. Not the best so far in your recent gem hunting, but close to
 it. 
 
 I don't think there is a lot of luck in photography. Sure, it helps
 100% to 
 be getting out and about in pretty scenery (if doing landscapes)
 versus being 
 stuck in familiar boring surroundings. 
 
 But luck? Nyah, just having a good eye.
 
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RE: PESO: Sierra Ranch

2006-07-20 Thread Jack Davis
Jens,
I've wondered if that color hue is due to early spring growth. It may
not be the cause, but maybe cholesterol development has a ways to
go.(?)
Thanks much.

Jack

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 Very nice photograph, Jack. The colours look a little like it came
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 old geography book - I think there's a tiny hint of yellow cast - or
 what?
 Regards
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 http://www.jensbladt.dk
 +45 56 63 77 11
 +45 23 43 85 77
 Skype: jensbladt248
 
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 Emne: PESO: Sierra Ranch
 
 
 Moving on to another barn. Sierra Co, CA cabin and barn drive by shot
 of a few years back.
 Last barn for the time being.
 Comments appreciated!
 
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Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment

2006-07-20 Thread pnstenquist
Nice shot and generally good work. But the center vertical isn't quite 
straight. That throws it off if you're going for perfect alignment. If elements 
has the Edit/Free Transform tool use this to rotate the image before you 
correct the perspective. You might find that the perspective tool works better 
once the rotation is correct. If not, you can use distort. If you don't have 
the free transform tool, do a rotation of about 1 degree before correcting 
perspective. You want to make that centerline perfectly vertical. If you need 
to stretch it to eliminate a squat look, use the image size tool and change 
onlly the vertical dimension a small amount. Experiment until it looks right.
Paul
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 Hi Don
 
 I'm using Photoshop Elements 1.  I tried the Perspective tool but
 couldn't get it to look right so I ended up using the Distort
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 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 Brian Walters
 Western Sydney, Australia
 
 
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OT: Panasonic DSLR Lumix DMC-L1 preview and video

2006-07-20 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
In Spanish. In Barcelona's presentation the
distributor told them that it would cost around 2000
EUR including the Leica 14-50 zoom.
Preview:
http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/panasonic-lumix-dmc-l1,1_2599
Video:
http://www.quesabesde.com/camaras-digitales/camaras/panasonic-lumix-dmc-l1-videos,2150.html




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Re: OT Bad behaviour

2006-07-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/7/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

From an entirely unrelated board.
==
Then my last observation is that in Toronto traffic generally stopped
but one evening Heather and I were crossing the road and a bicyclist
swerved over into us and shouted go home tourist! Hehhehehh.  We
both laughed but got out of the street in case he came back to challenge
us to a hockey game or something.

Did he have a ghoti beard and was he sitting on a bare seat post?

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Re: OT Bad behaviour

2006-07-20 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/20 Thu PM 01:35:03 GMT
 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT Bad behaviour
 
 On 20/7/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 From an entirely unrelated board.
 ==
 Then my last observation is that in Toronto traffic generally stopped
 but one evening Heather and I were crossing the road and a bicyclist
 swerved over into us and shouted go home tourist! Hehhehehh.  We
 both laughed but got out of the street in case he came back to challenge
 us to a hockey game or something.
 
 Did he have a ghoti beard and was he sitting on a bare seat post?
 

Don't know but the Hehhehehh does make me think of someone.  If they had 
said that he went past in a blur, my suspicions would have been confirmed.

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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: DagT
Subject: Re: PESO - Jump




And that, of course, is what you have to do. The responsibility is on
your side, and as you never can know what is in the other end of an
internet link you have to be extremely careful.

Why don't you just say
content is of a naked child and leave it at that?
Responsibility is a two way street.


Maybe I´ll put the text Safe for William Robb and others if I want
you to have a look .-)


Don't knock yourself out on my behalf, I don't look at your pictures anyway.

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Re: OT Bad behaviour

2006-07-20 Thread Adam Maas
Toronto is the rudest city in Canada.

-Adam


mike wilson wrote:
From an entirely unrelated board.
 ==
 Then my last observation is that in Toronto traffic generally stopped but one 
 evening Heather and I were crossing the road and a bicyclist swerved over 
 into us and shouted go home tourist! Hehhehehh.  We both laughed but 
 got out of the street in case he came back to challenge us to a hockey game 
 or something.
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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread Tom C
You make me laugh! :-)



Tom C.






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From: Keith McGuinness
Subject: Re: PESO - Jump



  I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've
  got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be
  different, not only the customs.
 

Canadian law makes it a crime to have anything that depicts a person who is
or may be under the age of 19 in a situation that is or may be of a sexual
nature.
  Since the law itself is very open to individual interpretation, it is a 
bit
dangerous to have a picture of a naked child on a computer hard drive, even
if it is in a residual cache, rather than formally saved.
I really wish some of these Europeans would get it through their heads that
this kind of stuff can cause People in North America problems and not post
it without warning.
I stopped looking at anything from Dag ages ago because he is an asshole in
this regard.

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Re: PEOW: Another GBH Portrait

2006-07-20 Thread Bruce Dayton
I've got to go with Christian on this one.  Technically, it is
excellent.  It belongs in a book about Herons to help you see exactly
what they look like (at least the head/neck).

But aesthetically, it doesn't quite do it for me.  I'd like to see the
body and maybe even a small bit of surroundings.

-- 
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Thursday, July 20, 2006, 1:24:17 AM, you wrote:

C It's a really sharp image, but like the other shot a while back (not
C sure from whom), I dislike disembodied head shots of herons, egrets and
C cranes.  They just look all wrong. :-)

C -- 

C Christian
C http://photography.skofteland.net


C Jay Taylor wrote:
 I have not been able to get out and do much shooting as of late since
 I'm busy trying to move into a new home my wife and I are purchasing.
 That coupled with the start of Salmon fishing season has kept me away
 from my camera. This is another of my Great Blue Heron images  
 captured with the *istDL and the FA*300 f4.5 + F1.7X adapter.  The
 full res image looked pretty awesome on this shot. For this web  
 resized version I experimented with blurring the background more at
 an attempt to create a more pleasing bokeh. As always comments and
 suggestions are helpful.
 
 Thanks,
 JayT
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Re: PESO - Blue Heron

2006-07-20 Thread Bruce Dayton
Yesterday I looked again at the location.  It turns out there are a
bunch of dead trees poking up in the middle of this pond (created by
beavers).  Those dead trees have no foliage or small branches on them.
The pattern of their bark is what you are seeing in the reflection.
For me, knowing it is bark reflection I am seeing, makes it feel a
little better.  In any event, when the subject is surrounded by water,
you get whatever reflects in the water for the background.

Sorry to make you ill grin.

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Thursday, July 20, 2006, 2:28:26 AM, you wrote:

Eac In a message dated 7/18/2006 9:04:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
Eac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Eac At least I think it is.  This was taken on the same walk yesterday as
Eac the egrets.  The odd looking patterns you see in the background are, I
Eac believe, reflections from trees and foliage.  I shot from a small hill
Eac above the bird so he was entirely surrounded by water and all the
Eac background is a reflection.

Eac Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld
Eac ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7

Eac http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3192a.htm

Eac Comments welcome.

Eac -- 
Eac Bruce
Eac ==
Eac Really nice shot of bird. He really pops. 

Eac Not sure what all those wavy lines are in the brokeh, but they are really,
Eac really distracting.

Eac Looks weird too, like water or something is running through the pic.

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Re: OT: Panasonic DSLR Lumix DMC-L1 preview and video

2006-07-20 Thread P. J. Alling
As a photographer I find the web site logo offensive to me and all other 
photographers everywhere.  ;-)

Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

In Spanish. In Barcelona's presentation the
distributor told them that it would cost around 2000
EUR including the Leica 14-50 zoom.
Preview:
http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/panasonic-lumix-dmc-l1,1_2599
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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Tom C 
Subject: Re: PESO - Jump


 You make me laugh! :-)

Thats probably why we are such good friends.
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Re: PESO - Voodoo Doll

2006-07-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Wonderful lighting.  It really makes this shot special.

On 7/19/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This shot just brings to mind a voodoo doll just made and ready to be
 used.  The other strange thought that came to me was Marvin the
 Martian.

 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld
 ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6

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OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing

2006-07-20 Thread Tom C

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/19jul_seaoftranquillity.htm


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Re: PESO - Water Warp

2006-07-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very interesting and captivating. . .

On 7/14/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4682145


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Re: PESO - Owl

2006-07-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I really love this shot.  What an expression.  Thanks for sharing it with us.

On 7/19/06, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 istDL, 200mm  f/4 SMC, iso 800. The image is cropped about 50%.

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/IMGP24115x7cropweb.jpg

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Re: PESO - Voodoo Doll

2006-07-20 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks - lighting does play a pretty critical role in this shot -
different lighting and there would be nothing but an ugly piece of
vegetation.

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Thursday, July 20, 2006, 9:17:26 AM, you wrote:

DJM Wonderful lighting.  It really makes this shot special.

DJM On 7/19/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This shot just brings to mind a voodoo doll just made and ready to be
 used.  The other strange thought that came to me was Marvin the
 Martian.

 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld
 ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6

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Re: PESO - Water Warp

2006-07-20 Thread Tom C
Thanks Dan.  Glad you enjoyed it.

Tom C.






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Subject: Re: PESO - Water Warp
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:31:55 -0500

Very interesting and captivating. . .

On 7/14/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4682145
 
 
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Re: PESO - Susquehenna

2006-07-20 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks, Bruce.  I took a few exposures of this scene and one of them
does not include the left bank.  I actually like having a bit of the
left bank in the scene.  I do agree with your assessment of the sky
and will try to crop it out soon.

Thanks for looking and commenting.  Much appreciated.

On 7/19/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Scott,

 I mostly like it.  The issues can be most dealt with in a crop.  I
 find the left bank to be of no value to the picture, and the left side
 of the sky kind of hazes out.  So I would crop the left side off.
 Also the sky is not really very strong and doesn't need that much
 showing.  So I would crop some off the top.  I tried it here and feel
 the picture is much stronger that way.

 I like the angle and colors that you have portrayed here - a little
 more work on the image and it could be quite good.

 --
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 SL http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/July2006/photo#4953492787365543954

 SL Taken from a bridge near Jersey Shore, PA.  PZ-1, 28-80 power zoom,
 SL Fuji Superia 800.  This is one of my first few photos with a
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Re: PESO - Susquehenna

2006-07-20 Thread Scott Loveless
I don't necessarily disagree, Jack.  I'll give it a shot over the next
day or so and see.  Thanks so much for the comments.

On 7/19/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Like it. Can imagine the scene in the Fall with placid river
 reflections.
 While I like seeing all of the far right tree, I'd probably wind up
 either cropping off or cloning out the rather bright building.
 Thanks for the peek.

 Jack

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  Fuji Superia 800.  This is one of my first few photos with a
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Re: PESO - Susquehenna

2006-07-20 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks, Paul.  I like the left bank, too.  See my reply to Bruce.

Thanks, again!

On 7/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I like this. Peaceful and pleasant. I wouldn't crop out the left bank. It 
 establishes that this is a river, rather than just the shore of a lake or 
 pond. I would burn in the sky on the left side of frame, and I would crop a 
 little off the top as Bruce suggested below.
 Paul
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 From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Hello Scott,
 
  I mostly like it.  The issues can be most dealt with in a crop.  I
  find the left bank to be of no value to the picture, and the left side
  of the sky kind of hazes out.  So I would crop the left side off.
  Also the sky is not really very strong and doesn't need that much
  showing.  So I would crop some off the top.  I tried it here and feel
  the picture is much stronger that way.
 
  I like the angle and colors that you have portrayed here - a little
  more work on the image and it could be quite good.
 
  --
  Bruce
 
 
  Wednesday, July 19, 2006, 9:42:19 AM, you wrote:
 
  SL 
  http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/July2006/photo#4953492787365543954
 
  SL Taken from a bridge near Jersey Shore, PA.  PZ-1, 28-80 power zoom,
  SL Fuji Superia 800.  This is one of my first few photos with a
  SL polarizer.  All comments and critiques are greatly appreciated.
 
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PDML Mini-FAQ Link

2006-07-20 Thread gray_wolf

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Re: PESO - Susquehenna

2006-07-20 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks, Ken.  I'll bring mine along next time and have the wife paddle
out into the middle.  g

On 7/19/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Scott, it leaves me asking is that all?
 I'm expecting more but its not there.
 Needs a red canoe or such.

 Kenneth Waller


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 From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO - Susquehenna


  http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/July2006/photo#4953492787365543954
 
  Taken from a bridge near Jersey Shore, PA.  PZ-1, 28-80 power zoom,
  Fuji Superia 800.  This is one of my first few photos with a
  polarizer.  All comments and critiques are greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: PESO - Susquehenna

2006-07-20 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks, Frank!  Glad you like it.

On 7/19/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 7/19/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/July2006/photo#4953492787365543954
 
  Taken from a bridge near Jersey Shore, PA.  PZ-1, 28-80 power zoom,
  Fuji Superia 800.  This is one of my first few photos with a
  polarizer.  All comments and critiques are greatly appreciated.

 That's beautiful, Scott.

 cheers,
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Re: Adobe Lightroom for Windows (almost) available now

2006-07-20 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 05:38:54AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 7/19/2006 1:50:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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 I keep feeling that I'm missing something.
 
 Godfrey
 ===
 I'm missing what Lightroom is supposed to be.
 
 I know Elements, and some of PS. How is Lightroom supposed to be different 
 and/or better?
 

 o  It has an integrated image management system that is greatly
superior to anything in Elements (ability to create collections
of images from various shoots, to rate images and to only show
images above a certain rating, to tag and sort based on keywords,
etc., etc.)  And while it is quite able to create and maintain
an image library for you (including converting to DNG while
importing, if you so choose) it will also work with your images
in their original folders if that's how you prefer to operate.

 o  The RAW conversion is far more powerful than that in Elements
(although perhaps not quite as flexible as that in CS or CS2),
and includes curves, lens profiles  camera profiles, plus a
whole lot of other features I haven't played with to date.

 o  It's not an image editor (so no healing brush, layers, etc.).
In fact it never creates a new image file (unless you tell it
to do so) - it just stores the history of the adjustments you
make to the image, and applies them when you select the image.

The one big drawback I see, at present, is that if an image is in
multiple collections then these are all references to the exact
same set of adjustments - there's no way to have both a colour
original and a BW conversion in separate galleries.  Adobe know
this is a limitation, and will address this in a future release.

Lightroom is supposed to be your primary interface to digital
imaging.  It deals with importing and catalogueing your images
(including sorting, classifying and selecting those images that
you want to work on).  It also deals with adjustments you make
to the whole image (white balance, exposure, black point, white
point, brightness, contrast, ...), rotation and cropping.
For many people this is all they will need for a first print
(or export to web).  To go beyond this (selective touch-up on
just some parts of an image, etc..) you need an image editor
such as Elements, CS, CS2, or some other external program.


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RE: Adobe Lightroom for Windows (almost) available now

2006-07-20 Thread Powell Hargrave
I played with it on my laptop (P4 / 1.8 / 512 / XP) for awhile this morning,
but I definitely need more RAM. This site has several short video tutes for
each module by the likes of Dave Cross, Scott Kelby, and Matt Kloskowski:
http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom/library.html
Lou

More Tutorials and info here:
NAPP's Adobe Lightroom Learning Center 
http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom

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Re: PESO - Voodoo Doll

2006-07-20 Thread pnstenquist
What Dan said. Great light. Excellent composition as well.
Paul
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From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Wonderful lighting.  It really makes this shot special.
 
 On 7/19/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This shot just brings to mind a voodoo doll just made and ready to be
  used.  The other strange thought that came to me was Marvin the
  Martian.
 
  Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld
  ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6
 
  http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3177a.htm
 
  Comments welcome.
 
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Re: An exercise in perspective adjustment

2006-07-20 Thread Kenneth Waller
Either one is fine with me.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment


 Hi all

 I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the sandstone walls of
 an old church in western Sydney.  Unfortunately it suffered from
 converging verticals so I had a go at correcting the perspective.

 It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done better.

 The adjusted image is at the top of the following link page and the
 original image is at the bottom:

 http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html



 Comments and suggestions welcome.  Technical details available by
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Re: Another GBH Portrait

2006-07-20 Thread Kenneth Waller
As posted I have several issues with this one.

The bill touching the RH edge looks like a mistake, it needs to have more 
separation from the edge.
The intersection of the bill with that thingy in the background is 
unfortunate as it draws my eye to it.
Focus  exposure looks right on, although it appears a little dark IMHO on 
my calibrated monitor.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 3:45 AM
Subject: PEOW: Another GBH Portrait


I have not been able to get out and do much shooting as of late since
 I'm busy trying to move into a new home my wife and I are purchasing.
 That coupled with the start of Salmon fishing season has kept me away
 from my camera. This is another of my Great Blue Heron images
 captured with the *istDL and the FA*300 f4.5 + F1.7X adapter.  The
 full res image looked pretty awesome on this shot. For this web
 resized version I experimented with blurring the background more at
 an attempt to create a more pleasing bokeh. As always comments and
 suggestions are helpful.

 Thanks,
 JayT
 http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/63808751.VbQd49L0.GBHPortrait3.jpg

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Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing

2006-07-20 Thread frank theriault
On 7/20/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/19jul_seaoftranquillity.htm


 Tom C.

Tom,

Thanks for that link.  It was spooky reading it, hearing phrases
that (I didn't realize) were etched in my memory.

Houston, Tranquility Base Here;  the Eagle has Landed.  We broke
into cheers when we heard that one.

That was one small step step for a man, one giant leap for mankind.
I told my father that was pretty good thinking, then he told me he was
pretty sure that Neil had made it up ahead of time.  g

I was 12 years old, and it seemed that we'd spent the whole summer in
front of our TV, a little black and white portable job.  We didn't
have cable yet, the picture was fuzzy (which was okay, because the
broadcasts from the moon were pretty fuzzy anyway, and even then, I
liked fuzzy g), but the whole family sat in front of that little TV
in our playroom, watching intently.

What now amazes me about that whole mission is the fact that it
actually got there and back.  Some four or five years ago, I read that
all those banks of computers with the flashing lights and winding
spools of magnetic tape had less power than the average desktop - and
that was 5 years ago!

After spending the summer of 68 watching American cities burn, it was
uplifting and inspiring to see mankind striving successfully for
peace.  These guys were my childhood heroes, the Mercury and Gemini
astronauts, and landing on the moon was the culmination of that.

Of course we didn't realize at the time it was all an elaborate hoax,
filmed on a Hollywood backlot.  LOL

For our generation, where you were when we landed on the moon was one
of those things we never forgot (just like where we were when we
heard about JFK's assassination ).

Thanks for that link, Tom!

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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread Kenneth Waller
 You can ask.

Or you can listen to those pdml'ers from that particular country.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO - Jump


 You can ask.
 
 DagT wrote:
 
Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness:

  

I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've
got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be
different, not only the customs.



Well, that only brings a new problem.  How much do we have to know  
about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about our law, and  
how much do we know about other countries?

In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I may  
remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against  
showing pubic hair.  So shaved models got through. How was I supposed  
to know, or understand, that?

DagT

  

 
 
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RE: Adobe Lightroom for Windows (almost) available now

2006-07-20 Thread Bob W
There's quite a good review/introduction on Luminous Landscape. 
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/software/lightroom1.shtml

I've managed to download Lightroom for Windows and from the brief play
I've had with it I think it is probably going to suit my needs quite
well when it's finished. No doubt there will be some things missing or
less than ideal, but it looks ok.

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 In a message dated 7/19/2006 1:50:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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 I keep feeling that I'm missing something.
 
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 I'm missing what Lightroom is supposed to be.
 
 I know Elements, and some of PS. How is Lightroom supposed to 
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 and/or better?
 
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Re: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing

2006-07-20 Thread Kenneth Waller
Ah heck Tom, we all know that was staged here on earth- VBG

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing


 
 http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/19jul_seaoftranquillity.htm
 
 
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Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment

2006-07-20 Thread John Francis

I find trying to correct perspective in Elements a little tricky;
you end up with an image that's either squashed or stretched
horizontally (or, alternatively, stretched or sqashed vertically).

If you think of the perspective correction as distorting your
original rectangle into a trapeziod, you don't want either the
base or the top of the trapezoid to stay the same; what you
really want is for one of them to be stretched, and the other
to be squashed, and some intermediate line (usually somewhere
between 1/3 and 1/2 way up the picture) to be left unchanged.
You can go to great lengths to compute exactly what you want,
or you can simply change the image size anisotropically (after
applying perspective correction) to get an image that looks right.
Resizing the image shouldn't lose any part of the contents.
(And, as Paul pointed out, rotate to get your central verticals
truly vertical before applying the perspective transform).


I do like the colours of the light on the stone.


On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 07:33:22AM -0500, Brian Walters wrote:
 Yes - I noticed that too.  However, trying to stretch it vertically
 tends to lose the top spire.
 
 Thanks for the comment, John.
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 Brian Walters
 Western Sydney, Australia
 
 
 
 Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  
  It looks as though you've squashed it a little vertically
  in the process of correcting the perspective.
  
  On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:38:11AM -0500, Brian Walters wrote:
   Hi all
   
   I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the sandstone
  walls of
   an old church in western Sydney.  Unfortunately it suffered from
   converging verticals so I had a go at correcting the
  perspective.
   
   It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done better.
   
   The adjusted image is at the top of the following link page and
  the
   original image is at the bottom:
   
   http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html
   
   
   
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Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing

2006-07-20 Thread Tom C
Hi Frank.  I was eight years old at the time.

I remember watching it on an old BW set as well.  It was a Packard-Bell 
19, we didn't have color TV yet.  We changed the channels with a pair of 
pliers.  I recall my Dad telling us kids to sit down and be quiet because 
this was important.

I love(d) the space program as well.  It was the coolest thing going.  It is 
amazing we made it there on what now looks like antique hardware.  It is 
amazing how many people I run in to that do not believe it.

Some of those additional shots of the mission were interesting too.

Tom C.






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Subject: Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:57:10 -0400

On 7/20/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/19jul_seaoftranquillity.htm
 
 
  Tom C.

Tom,

Thanks for that link.  It was spooky reading it, hearing phrases
that (I didn't realize) were etched in my memory.

Houston, Tranquility Base Here;  the Eagle has Landed.  We broke
into cheers when we heard that one.

That was one small step step for a man, one giant leap for mankind.
I told my father that was pretty good thinking, then he told me he was
pretty sure that Neil had made it up ahead of time.  g

I was 12 years old, and it seemed that we'd spent the whole summer in
front of our TV, a little black and white portable job.  We didn't
have cable yet, the picture was fuzzy (which was okay, because the
broadcasts from the moon were pretty fuzzy anyway, and even then, I
liked fuzzy g), but the whole family sat in front of that little TV
in our playroom, watching intently.

What now amazes me about that whole mission is the fact that it
actually got there and back.  Some four or five years ago, I read that
all those banks of computers with the flashing lights and winding
spools of magnetic tape had less power than the average desktop - and
that was 5 years ago!

After spending the summer of 68 watching American cities burn, it was
uplifting and inspiring to see mankind striving successfully for
peace.  These guys were my childhood heroes, the Mercury and Gemini
astronauts, and landing on the moon was the culmination of that.

Of course we didn't realize at the time it was all an elaborate hoax,
filmed on a Hollywood backlot.  LOL

For our generation, where you were when we landed on the moon was one
of those things we never forgot (just like where we were when we
heard about JFK's assassination ).

Thanks for that link, Tom!

cheers,
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RE: OT: Panasonic DSLR Lumix DMC-L1 preview and video

2006-07-20 Thread Bob W
Nice focal length range for that zoom. 4/3rds so it's a 28-100
equivalent.

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 As a photographer I find the web site logo offensive to me 
 and all other 
 photographers everywhere.  ;-)
 
 Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
 
 In Spanish. In Barcelona's presentation the
 distributor told them that it would cost around 2000
 EUR including the Leica 14-50 zoom.
 Preview:
 http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/panasonic-lumix-dmc-l1,1_2599
 Video:
 http://www.quesabesde.com/camaras-digitales/camaras/panasonic
 -lumix-dmc-l1-videos,2150.html
 
 
 
  
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RE: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread Bob W
As long as you know what to ask. 

Why would it occur to somebody in a culture where it is routine for
parents to photograph their naked children on a beach to thing that
other cultures might be uptight about it? 

Does anyone here, for example, consider the difficulties that might be
caused to people in some Muslim countries if you show a woman with her
face uncovered, perhaps driving a car? 

I'll bet nobody here has ever given it a single moment's thought, yet
we expect other people to know all the peculiar nuances of our own
moral and legal hang-ups.

Publish and be damned!

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 I know
 
 Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 10.44 skrev P. J. Alling:
 
  You can ask.
 
  DagT wrote:
 
  Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness:
 
 
 
  I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've
  got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be
  different, not only the customs.
 
 
 
  Well, that only brings a new problem.  How much do we have to
know
  about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about 
 our law, and
  how much do we know about other countries?
 
  In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I
may
  remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against
  showing pubic hair.  So shaved models got through. How was 
 I supposed
  to know, or understand, that?
 
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Re: PESO - Susquehenna

2006-07-20 Thread Rick Womer
I like it, Scott, and I wouldn't change anything.  The
curve of the river interacts nicely with the shore and
the far hills.

Numbers 2 and 3 of this on-line collection are really
nice, too.

This is the PESO maiden voyage of the PZ-1, isn't
it?

Rick

--- Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Like it. Can imagine the scene in the Fall with
 placid river
 reflections.
 While I like seeing all of the far right tree, I'd
 probably wind up
 either cropping off or cloning out the rather bright
 building.
 Thanks for the peek.
 
 Jack
 
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http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/July2006/photo#4953492787365543954
  
  Taken from a bridge near Jersey Shore, PA.  PZ-1,
 28-80 power zoom,
  Fuji Superia 800.  This is one of my first few
 photos with a
  polarizer.  All comments and critiques are greatly
 appreciated.
  
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RE: GESO Scout camp

2006-07-20 Thread Bob W
What, you think there's something wrong with driving at 95mph in a
70mph zone, and photographing with one hand and a camera in front of
your face, in the fast lane?

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 On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote:
 
  Try this:
  
 http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=52925
 3g=218194
 
  Click on top left and then the arrows above to navigate.
 
 Thanks for sharing Mike. Home James is slightly disconcerting :-)
 
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RE: PESO: Summer Sunset

2006-07-20 Thread Jens Bladt
Thank very much, Marnie. I really glad you like it.
A little to the right of the centre of the image there's a building that
catches the sun (small yellow dot).
It is actually a huge ware house - the central ware house for Denmark and
Sweeden for a very popular retail chain called NETTO (Owned by MAERSK, one
of the worlds largest tranporting companies, I believe). I did the local
plans for the freight village in which the ware house was built in 2001.
Regards


Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
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+45 23 43 85 77
Skype: jensbladt248

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Emne: Re: PESO: Summer Sunset


In a message dated 7/19/2006 3:06:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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I colleaque of mine lives very near the sea (most Danes do ;-).
When I visited him earlier this evening, I did this sunset image:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/193652447/

Regards
Jens
===
After reading some others' comments, Jens, I thought I'd elaborate why I
really like it.

I had to click on it to see it larger, of course, the small one is too
small.

You captured conflicting elements very well -- juxtaposition of opposites.
Warmth and cool (even cold). Emptiness/loneliness and togetherness. The buoy
at
one end in the really cool -- buoys are always sort of lonely things to
me --
and togetherness with warmth at the other end. On top of that there is a
person walking on the bridge to join the other two.

The gradation of colors is lovely and, also, it makes me feel as if I was
there.

In other words, it is really nice.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-20 Thread frank theriault
On 7/18/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Great photo!

Yes!!

cheers,
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