Re: PESO(s)- ...
Hehehe! Well spotted! Jostein 2011/3/20 Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com: Just having fun, life has been too serious* lately... http://bongmanayon.posterous.com/46557673 *Well, usually...for those in Facebook, you would have gotten wind of a recent exhibit of mostly my photos hosted by the local government of Quezon City (Philippines). -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - On top of the Sarcophagus
The person on the pillar is flesh and blood. Not a buddy, just one of four skiers who got to the peak right ahead of me. His girlfriend called out to make him stretch his arms for the pose. Jostein 2011/3/19 Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: Well I sure can see that one! Thanks, my friend :-) brr. and lovely -- so tell me, is that tiny person on the end of the arrete a person or a piece of sculpture? I like to think you sent one of your buddies out there to pose - someone as crazy as Mark Roberts... ann AlunFoto wrote: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/topptur-sarkofagen.html This shouldn't be too dark for anyone's eyes. :-) Still gives me a memory of vertigo, though. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - On top of the Sarcophagus
2011/3/20 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com: It's really, really simple. You see, if you had a 645D you could take beautiful pictures like Jostein does. Because you can take better pictures with more expensive cameras. Isn't that how it works? -T You're saving up, aren't you, Tim? :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - On top of the Sarcophagus
2011/3/20 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com: Absolutely. Although you also need to fly to Norway. There are a few other locations that will do too. A few. :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablements (or: holy crap this thing's awesome)
On 3/19/2011 8:34 PM, John Celio wrote: Holy crap, this thing is lightyears ahead of my K10D. I was thinking of keeping the K10D as a backup, but I think it may just end up in permanent storage (no one will want this lemon of a camera, so I'm not going to try to sell it). The build and layout feels nothing like the Pentaxes I'm used to. I was out of the loop for so long! John, given that you had a lemon, I can relate to your sentiment. However, my K10D was and still is in perfect order and please take my word for it - it is a fine camera. Be congratulated with your K-5. I am happy that your gear issue has resolved and you're now on the horse, as a manner of (Russian) speaking. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bruce Davidson award and exhibition
On 13/03/2011 06:23, mike wilson wrote: On 11/03/2011 20:50, Bob W wrote: mike wilson See here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12678714 If anyone wants a PDML day trip to the exhibition at Somerset House, please let me know and we can arrange something. I'm tempted but you, me and exhibitions don't seem to do well together. Oh, go on, try it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDVCWKx0hIM Set a date and I'll see if it will fit. I have so many courses and meetings over the next three months I'm going to have to develop schizophrenia to cope. 14/15th or 21/22th May. B 14/15th might work, as it is the weekend after Katy's birthday, so a trip to London might work as a present. On the other hand, I have three assignments due in the following week. you can do your assignments on the train. OK, Cath is going to check if we can get the deal at the Russell Square hotel again and I am going to (realistically) assess my ability to have the assignments finished or nearly so by then. Back in a minute. That was a long minute. I'm out. Have fun. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - On top of the Sarcophagus
Well done... But then again, I don't recall even one time when a picture you chose to display wasn't... On 3/19/2011 8:47 PM, AlunFoto wrote: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/topptur-sarkofagen.html This shouldn't be too dark for anyone's eyes. :-) Still gives me a memory of vertigo, though. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Thirty Five years ago.
35 years ago I was eating, sleeping, probably making lots of noise and filing a nappy a few times a day. Unless I die young, 35 years from now I'll probably be doing all of that again. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Further earthquake information
On Mar 20, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: You know, between Christchurch and Japan, we'll be hearing from those end of of the world in 2012 guys. There was a prediction from the moon man, a local crackpot who needs to crawl under his rock before some of us put him under one, that there would be another big earthquake here today, plus or minus one day. That caused a number of people to flock out to small-town camp grounds, not admitting they believe him but they were saying just in case a lot. I hope they send him the bill. I am sick of his attempts at scaremongering for the sake of swelling his ego and selling a few books. So if you'll excuse me I'll treat the 2012 people the same way. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: X100 video review
On 3/19/2011 1:18 PM, Cotty wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-VoXxwGWYcfeature=youtube_gdata Excellent video - impressively shot on a DSLR as well - note radio lapel mic on presenter for good sound. Really nice portrayal of camera use on the street - even if you're not interested in the hardware, if you're into street photography you should watch this video. I agree on all counts, Cotty. Excellent camera, lovely presentation, inspirational footage... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT discussion of mail and philosophy (was: re: OT Mac users only)
On 3/16/2011 10:01 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Mar 16, 2011, at 3:47 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: You're conflating temporal linearity and topicality. Mark! Double Mark! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - On top of the Sarcophagus
On 19/03/2011 19:47, AlunFoto wrote: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/topptur-sarkofagen.html This shouldn't be too dark for anyone's eyes. :-) Still gives me a memory of vertigo, though. Jostein Up to your usual standards. Pity about the row of structures in the snow on the left hand side of the valley. Transmission pylons? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - On top of the Sarcophagus
Of course. Silly me. Jostein used to take rubbish pictures before he became enabled! Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: I still don't get the 645D though It's really, really simple. You see, if you had a 645D you could take beautiful pictures like Jostein does. Because you can take better pictures with more expensive cameras. Isn't that how it works? -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at,, PayPal
2011/3/20 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: Under the U.S. system there's no penalty if the lawyer lies in court as long as he's not under oath. Good point. same goes for politicians and lying in public =P -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at,, PayPal
2011/3/20 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: 2011/3/20 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: Under the U.S. system there's no penalty if the lawyer lies in court as long as he's not under oath. Good point. same goes for politicians and lying in public =P oops, wrong. from a certain level upwards they're all under oath and there is still no penalty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT Thirty Five years ago.
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Mann 35 years ago I was eating, sleeping, probably making lots of noise and filing a nappy a few times a day. Unless I die young, 35 years from now I'll probably be doing all of that again. why wait? http://www.dailydiapers.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Bruce Davidson award and exhibition
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson [...] OK, Cath is going to check if we can get the deal at the Russell Square hotel again and I am going to (realistically) assess my ability to have the assignments finished or nearly so by then. Back in a minute. That was a long minute. I'm out. Have fun. pity. I hope we can manage something this year. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bruce Davidson award and exhibition
On 20/03/2011 10:07, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson [...] OK, Cath is going to check if we can get the deal at the Russell Square hotel again and I am going to (realistically) assess my ability to have the assignments finished or nearly so by then. Back in a minute. That was a long minute. I'm out. Have fun. pity. I hope we can manage something this year. B Summertime is looking good for Dorset. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Do you know sh1t?
http://enature.com/challenge/scatChallenge.asp 5/5 for me, although I had to guess one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT Do you know sh1t?
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson http://enature.com/challenge/scatChallenge.asp 5/5 for me, although I had to guess one. it all looks like Shinola to me. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Bruce Davidson award and exhibition
-Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson OK, Cath is going to check if we can get the deal at the Russell Square hotel again and I am going to (realistically) assess my ability to have the assignments finished or nearly so by then. Back in a minute. That was a long minute. I'm out. Have fun. pity. I hope we can manage something this year. B Summertime is looking good for Dorset. excellent - I like Dorset. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
Peter I hope you're reading this. Because damn, coming from you that hurts. You're one of the people I've always seen as sincere and genuine in a discussion. You always stand your ground and that's admirable in its own right no matter what your opinions are. And I trust you to not be someone who condones the deliberate hurting of people. In fact I think if you felt something was torture you'd be against it. In other words, I love you too, man. I'm open to fact and logic.And I ask the same of you. If AI or the UN say it wasn't torture I'll accept their judgement. If 'not for a long time to be privately fucking civilian' Manning says it was I'll believe him, too. I have to give him that. If an ex CIA staffer says publically that extraordinary renditions work like: If you want someone harshly questioned, send them to Jordan. If you want them tortured, send them to Syria. And if you want someone to disappear for good, send them to Egypt. Not the exact wording but I'll find the name and source for you if you want it. By the same token I fully believe you when you say they wouldn't do it for lack of percentage. But believe me in my 25 or so years of thinking teen and adult life I've seen vast numbers of people do vast numbers of very odd things for vast numbers of very odd perceived percentages that would never even occur to me. What I'm saying is that just because you're in your right mind doesn't make everyone else that way. Sincerely Ecke 2011/3/20 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: You know, Ecki man, I love you but I'm bowing out of this conversation. There's no reasoning with you. You seem to be completely paranoid on this matter. You seem to be impervious to fact and logic. Oh, and by the way, I'm getting pretty tired of hearing that water boarding is torture. I have friends who have undergone training to withstand interrogation, and being water boarded is part of the training. It's a thoroughly unpleasant experience, but calling it torture is like saying being slapped with a wet towel is the same as being whipped with a bull whip. One will cause your flesh to sting, the latter will rip it off. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
You know, Ecki man, I love you but I'm bowing out of this conversation. There's no reasoning with you. You seem to be completely paranoid on this matter. You seem to be impervious to fact and logic. Oh, and by the way, I'm getting pretty tired of hearing that water boarding is torture. I have friends who have undergone training to withstand interrogation, and being water boarded is part of the training. It's a thoroughly unpleasant experience, but calling it torture is like saying being slapped with a wet towel is the same as being whipped with a bull whip. One will cause your flesh to sting, the latter will rip it off. I can't believe you're seriously equating waterboarding with being slapped with a wet towel, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you haven't really thought that one through. There's an enormous difference between undergoing something voluntarily for training, carried out by people on your own side, in conditions where you are in control, where you know the outcome and you know when it will end, and being subjected to the same thing by your enemies while you're kept in solitary confinement with no access to anyone else, not knowing where you are, against your will, time after time for months and years, not knowing when it will be over, but knowing that it's going to happen again and again and again, and listening for the steps in the corridor that tell you they're coming back. The strongest argument against it is that it is immoral and is not the sort of behaviour that a liberal democracy should be involved with, but even if we leave the morality of it to one side, it is illegal internationally under agreements that your country and mine have signed up to, so the people who do it, and those who authorise it, are breaking the law and should be treated accordingly, put on trial with the likes of Milosovic. By claiming that it is not illegal, and not even torture, they are also exposing their own people to the same treatment when they are captured by our countries' enemies, and you can be sure that if we in turn capture those enemies a plea of it's legal and not even torture will not be any help to them. And it doesn't work. Information obtained under that level of duress, whether you call it torture or not, is useless. People will say whatever their captors want them to say, just to try and make it stop. The very people who waterboarded Khaled Sheikh Mohammed have admitted that his information was useless. It doesn't even work as a deterrent. On the contrary, it just breeds more terrorists. It's the behaviour of the grossly stupid. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - On top of the Sarcophagus
Beautiful landscape and an intriguing image. Paul On Mar 20, 2011, at 2:39 AM, AlunFoto wrote: The person on the pillar is flesh and blood. Not a buddy, just one of four skiers who got to the peak right ahead of me. His girlfriend called out to make him stretch his arms for the pose. Jostein 2011/3/19 Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: Well I sure can see that one! Thanks, my friend :-) brr. and lovely -- so tell me, is that tiny person on the end of the arrete a person or a piece of sculpture? I like to think you sent one of your buddies out there to pose - someone as crazy as Mark Roberts... ann AlunFoto wrote: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/topptur-sarkofagen.html This shouldn't be too dark for anyone's eyes. :-) Still gives me a memory of vertigo, though. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT free software offer
On Mar 19, 2011, at 8:24 AM, eckinator wrote: hi gang thanks to mail being archived and thus essentially public I can't go into detail here but it is useful for programmers, consultants and basically everyone dealing with structures of cause and effect. please contact me offlist if interested. Why do I get the feeling that the current xkcd is right on topic for this post: http://www.xkcd.com/874 cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Episcopal Church (across the street from the bar)
On Mar 18, 2011, at 1:29 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: A shot I took on the way into the bar I went to yesterday for St. Pat's to have a Guinness or two. It's one of the older buildings in town (Paducah, KY), where I really should get around to shooting some of the architecture one of these days. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5538227640/ K-x, DA L 18-55, Landscape mode, 1/500, ISO 200, f/11 As always, comments, critiques and suggestions welcome. Of course the Episcopal church is across the street from the bar. I hear that they're a very social sect, any time you get four of them together, you're bound to find a fifth. Oh, it's a nice photo too. Though with those dark shadows in contrast with the sunlit side it is one of those cases where I would just autobracket my raw exposures, just in case I ever get around to doing HDR. I don't go for that wild tone mapping HDR style, but there are times it would be nice to be able to pull more detail out of the highlights and shadows if the shot turns out to be a keeper. It occurs to me that with the K-5, it has so much more dynamic range at low ISO, I should increase my bracketing range, at least at low ISO. Lovely old church, well captured. Love the deep blue sky! I agree. The sky, and sunlit bricks are metered perfectly. What's Landscape mode do? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT free software offer
haha =) seriously it is an offer that was posted on xing for xing users and while they probably don't care who gets it I didn't want to make it public in such a way that they can track that back to me. it is a non-upgradeable version of a tool that normally costs € 595 (upgradeable) and a cebit award winner of some sort. just trying to be helpful cheers ecke 2011/3/20 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Mar 19, 2011, at 8:24 AM, eckinator wrote: hi gang thanks to mail being archived and thus essentially public I can't go into detail here but it is useful for programmers, consultants and basically everyone dealing with structures of cause and effect. please contact me offlist if interested. Why do I get the feeling that the current xkcd is right on topic for this post: http://www.xkcd.com/874 cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Do you know sh1t?
On Mar 20, 2011, at 1:18 AM, mike wilson wrote: http://enature.com/challenge/scatChallenge.asp 5/5 for me, although I had to guess one. 5/5 several were educated guesses. As a kid our pets included ferrets, dogs, rabbits, and an otter, plus I've had to clean up raccoon scat in my attic, and have seen deer fewmets on trails near the house, so I could ID, or rule out several of the options. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Mark
Larry: (in an offlist mail to me) Oh, right. You foreigners all look alike to me. Especially in plain text. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Bill is the man
I know street fashion is not so hot on this list. But not everyone can do what Bill does; kudos to him I say. Anyone who can get Anna Nuclear Wintour to go wobbly is tops in my books. http://www.slate.com/id/2288743/ My feeble emulation http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/11/11_03/11_03_gallery/01.htm -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablements (or: holy crap this thing's awesome)
On Mar 19, 2011, at 11:34 AM, John Celio wrote: It took forever for my K-5 battery to charge You didn't pull the battery and charger out at work and charge it during the afternoon? I'm impressed, you have a lot more self restraint than I do. last night, but as soon as that light turned off I upgraded the firmware and started playing around with the settings. The first photos (and video) I took were all of my cat, so I will spare you from having to see that. At least I have a pretty redhead staying at the house who came in handy for the first shot. Holy crap, this thing is lightyears ahead of my K10D. I was thinking of keeping the K10D as a backup, but I think it may just end up in permanent storage (no one will want this lemon of a camera, so I'm not going to try to sell it). The build and layout feels nothing like the Pentaxes I'm used to. I was out of the loop for so long! When I upgraded to the K20 from my K100 I was blown away by the improvement in ergonomics. The K20 also had a significant boost in performance over the K100. My only negative comment so far is that the focus-assist lamp is almost useless when using a large lens like the DA* 16-50. Aha! That explains something I hadn't really thought through. Though if it's dark enough to need focus assist, there's a good chance I'm not using slow glass like the 16-50. Did I mention last month that I got a new laptop? Well, more of a netbook. It was free from Google and came installed with Chrome OS (beta, of course). I was picked to be part of the Chrome OS Pilot Program, so I've been helping test the OS and the hardware, and so far I think it's pretty great for a netbook. Still buggy and there are lots of features that haven't been implemented yet (like a working file browser and controls for the built-in webcam), but since it's pretty much the Chrome browser running a laptop, it does what I expect and performs pretty well. It should be pretty awesome when it's ready for general consumption. Where do I sign up? I can write kick-ass bug reports. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Rubber enablement
I wasn't planning on going shopping today, but it happened. So in an annex popup to a vintage fashion store run by a friend, I saw a bag. Rubber Killer is the label, and they recycle truck tyres. The strap is a recycled seat belt. I know I'm crossing the gender accesory line, but I love it as a camera bag that doesn't look like a camera bag. Fits an M, with maybe an extra summicron. And a pen and pad, for that docojournalist in me. Mmmmrubber -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago
On 3/17/2011 9:58 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: This morning I had a go at fixing one of them in PhotoShop. Unfortunately, my scanner sucks (a flatbed Epson 3200), so the shot that was probably soft to begin with is softer yet. But I did fix the color and exposure. It's now almost what I had in mind a quarter century ago. The Chi-Town guys will get a kick out of it. You've got quite a memory, Paul, quite a memory! BTW, Pat Minick, who is sitting in the car in the pic, offered to shoot out the street lights with his sidearm that night. I declined, figuring I needed the light, even if it was green. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153size=lg Wonderful photo. Brought memories of some totally different photos that my memory cherishes for my own personal reasons. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 3/19/2011 10:48 PM, William Robb wrote: On 19/03/2011 3:52 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: If it's any consolation, conservative has been the new Nazi for many years now. With what's going on in Wisconsin, it's pretty hard to argue otherwise. That's an utterly ignorant (if unsurprising) statement. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
Why is it that whenever someone raises this point, they always fail to recognize that the people who are subjected to waterboarding also are subjected to it in training. They know how it works. It's just that it's unpleasant enough to remain effective. That said, I'd gladly submit myself to waterboarding if you'll allow me to deploy any of the tactics typically used by the people being subjected to it in return. -- Walt On 3/20/2011 5:10 AM, Bob W wrote: There's an enormous difference between undergoing something voluntarily for training, carried out by people on your own side, in conditions where you are in control, where you know the outcome and you know when it will end, and being subjected to the same thing by your enemies while you're kept in solitary confinement with no access to anyone else, not knowing where you are, against your will, time after time for months and years, not knowing when it will be over, but knowing that it's going to happen again and again and again, and listening for the steps in the corridor that tell you they're coming back. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Off Topic thread limit?
I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic thread limit?
On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. And as soon as I post the above, I see the following link: http://twentytwowords.com/2011/03/15/a-flowchart-to-help-you-determine-if-youre-having-a-rational-discussion/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
Why is it that whenever someone raises this point, they always fail to recognize that the people who are subjected to waterboarding also are subjected to it in training. They know how it works. It's just that it's unpleasant enough to remain effective. the evidence suggests that it's not effective. But that's not what matters, what matters is the moral issue. Even if it was 100% effective it would still be wrong and we should not do it. That said, I'd gladly submit myself to waterboarding if you'll allow me to deploy any of the tactics typically used by the people being subjected to it in return. that's a damn silly thing to say, the sort of thing you hear in playgrounds. We're supposed to be different from those people. Use of their tactics makes us indistinguishable and means we have lost the fight to defend and promote our values. B -- Walt On 3/20/2011 5:10 AM, Bob W wrote: There's an enormous difference between undergoing something voluntarily for training, carried out by people on your own side, in conditions where you are in control, where you know the outcome and you know when it will end, and being subjected to the same thing by your enemies while you're kept in solitary confinement with no access to anyone else, not knowing where you are, against your will, time after time for months and years, not knowing when it will be over, but knowing that it's going to happen again and again and again, and listening for the steps in the corridor that tell you they're coming back. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-20 and DA* 16-50 frustrations
The combo seems to front focus a lot in the studio. In fluorescent it is hit and miss. Improves in halogen light, but I can't really trust it. It seem to do ok in daylight. I'm assuming that in house AF-adjustments is not the way to go. That it will be useless outdoor if I corrects it for indoor light. Am I right about this? FA* 85 is mostly spot on. So I'm blaming the DA* 16-50. What do you think guys? Should I use the situation as an excuse for an enablement? My eyes are not up to critical manual focus indoor. Should I look for another lens to use in the studio? Tamron 28-75/2,8 could be the lens I need. Also musing at 35mm 2,8 Ltd, but I end up regretting not buying a faster 35mm. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Off Topic thread limit?
On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. Welcome to the internet. Have a nice day. Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. And as soon as I post the above, I see the following link: http://twentytwowords.com/2011/03/15/a-flowchart-to-help-you-determine- if-youre-having-a-rational-discussion/ Would you like to buy my perpetual motion machine? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Off Topic thread limit?
On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. And as soon as I post the above, I see the following link: http://twentytwowords.com/2011/03/15/a-flowchart-to-help-you-determine- if-youre-having-a-rational-discussion/ incidentally, I notice that flowchart about how to hold a rational discussion appears to be hosted on a religious site. Ironic, huh? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-20 and DA* 16-50 frustrations
On 3/20/2011 2:39 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: The combo seems to front focus a lot in the studio. In fluorescent it is hit and miss. Improves in halogen light, but I can't really trust it. It seem to do ok in daylight. I'm assuming that in house AF-adjustments is not the way to go. That it will be useless outdoor if I corrects it for indoor light. Am I right about this? FA* 85 is mostly spot on. So I'm blaming the DA* 16-50. What do you think guys? Should I use the situation as an excuse for an enablement? My eyes are not up to critical manual focus indoor. Should I look for another lens to use in the studio? Tamron 28-75/2,8 could be the lens I need. Also musing at 35mm 2,8 Ltd, but I end up regretting not buying a faster 35mm. Tim, I am thinking these thoughts: * Why don't you get yourself a magnifying eye cap and a split screen focusing screen? It is going to be way less than buying a new camera. Provided you're happy with what your K20D produces when you and it hit it together. * May be you could simply bring/send the camera and the lens to local Pentax repair center for calibration? By local I mean mostly European as my understanding is that the guys in Oslo don't do gear repair like they used to several years ago. I may be off the mark here, but you and Jostein would know better, of course. * I would recommend against Tamron 28-75/2.8. Well, let me soften it a bit - I wouldn't recommend for it. I've a friend who uses it on Canon 50D and gets excellent results. But he is very masterful in post. I find that Tamron 28-75 is more prone to nervous OOF rendering than Sigma 24-60/2.8 that has become my zoom lens of choice as of recently. I cannot possibly know if it at all makes sense to suggest that you use primes instead of zooms in your studio, given that you practically control everything. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 3/20/2011 7:37 AM, Bob W wrote: Why is it that whenever someone raises this point, they always fail to recognize that the people who are subjected to waterboarding also are subjected to it in training. They know how it works. It's just that it's unpleasant enough to remain effective. the evidence suggests that it's not effective. But that's not what matters, what matters is the moral issue. Even if it was 100% effective it would still be wrong and we should not do it. Which evidence would you be talking about? There is testimony and evidence that valuable information was extracted from Khalid Sheikh Muhammed, and Abu Zubayda that let to the interruption of terrorist attacks, saving lives. And, if you can waterboard someone -- 10 times or 100 times -- and it saves peoples lives, and the anguish and psychological terror of all the people connected with those lives, directly or indirectly, it's justifiable. That said, I'd gladly submit myself to waterboarding if you'll allow me to deploy any of the tactics typically used by the people being subjected to it in return. that's a damn silly thing to say, the sort of thing you hear in playgrounds. We're supposed to be different from those people. Use of their tactics makes us indistinguishable and means we have lost the fight to defend and promote our values. That operates from the incorrect assumption that waterboarding isn't different from their tactics. It quite clearly is, whether you want to recognize it or not. B -- Walt On 3/20/2011 5:10 AM, Bob W wrote: There's an enormous difference between undergoing something voluntarily for training, carried out by people on your own side, in conditions where you are in control, where you know the outcome and you know when it will end, and being subjected to the same thing by your enemies while you're kept in solitary confinement with no access to anyone else, not knowing where you are, against your will, time after time for months and years, not knowing when it will be over, but knowing that it's going to happen again and again and again, and listening for the steps in the corridor that tell you they're coming back. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-20 and DA* 16-50 frustrations
On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:39 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: The combo seems to front focus a lot in the studio. In fluorescent it is hit and miss. Improves in halogen light, but I can't really trust it. It seem to do ok in daylight. I'm assuming that in house AF-adjustments is not the way to go. That it will be useless outdoor if I corrects it for indoor light. Am I right about this? FA* 85 is mostly spot on. So I'm blaming the DA* 16-50. What do you think guys? Should I use the situation as an excuse for an enablement? Whatever it takes. Every time that I though I found a way in which the K20 was better than the K-5, I eventually learned that I had not properly read the K-5 manual. My eyes are not up to critical manual focus indoor. Should I look for another lens to use in the studio? Tamron 28-75/2,8 could be the lens I need. Also musing at 35mm 2,8 Ltd, but I end up regretting not buying a faster 35mm. I'm very intrigued by the 28-75 myself, it's a range that I find myself needing a lot. How sharp is it? My two zooms are the 18-250 and the 16-50, how would it compare with them? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic thread limit?
On 3/20/2011 2:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. Ok, Larry, you called for it. Or like they say in France - defend yourself... Let us joust-dot-net... Boris P.S. Interestingly enough in Russian it is the other way around - We say that sun shines but don't warm when winter is coming... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-20 and DA* 16-50 frustrations
On 3/20/2011 2:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm very intrigued by the 28-75 myself, it's a range that I find myself needing a lot. How sharp is it? My two zooms are the 18-250 and the 16-50, how would it compare with them? My copy is very sharp. Easily as sharp as Pentax primes, such as 35/2.8 or 50/1.7 or whatever non-limited primes that I (used to have) had. I think that limited lenses outdo it a bit in other aspects of the rendering, but for all practical purposes I treat(ed) my copy as set of primes in one barrel. My only issue with this lens is like I wrote just a moment ago to Tim - somewhat nervous OOF rendering. Not always, mind you, just sometimes, but I hadn't manage to learn when it decides to go nervous. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-20 and DA* 16-50 frustrations
On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:52 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 3/20/2011 2:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm very intrigued by the 28-75 myself, it's a range that I find myself needing a lot. How sharp is it? My two zooms are the 18-250 and the 16-50, how would it compare with them? My copy is very sharp. Easily as sharp as Pentax primes, such as 35/2.8 or 50/1.7 or whatever non-limited primes that I (used to have) had. I think that limited lenses outdo it a bit in other aspects of the rendering, but for all practical purposes I treat(ed) my copy as set of primes in one barrel. My only issue with this lens is like I wrote just a moment ago to Tim - somewhat nervous OOF rendering. Not always, mind you, just sometimes, but I hadn't manage to learn when it decides to go nervous. Interesting. That is my biggest complaint with my bigma, that I don't like the bokeh. Until my finances settle a bit, or I've got a big chunk of income depending on a good zoom in that range, the situation is pretty well moot. But, it's fun to think about. Photographing aikido, I find myself often needing a bit more length than my 16-50 will provide, but often need wider than 50. On the K-x I'm pushing the sensor hard enough to get the 1/80th or faster shutter speeds, at least at night, that I lose noticeable sharpness when I crop to zoom. I find that I prefer photographing musicians framed in close on their face. My 77 is usually pretty good for that, but there are a lot of times it would be nice to go a bit wider, and occasionally, I'd like a bit longer. Either the 28-75 or the 50-135 would be a good range for me to use in band photography, though the backgrounds can be a lot harder to control at a dive bar, so good bokeh is probably a lot more critical. I could probably use a lens as slow as 3.5 or 4, but wouldn't want to go much slower than that. At this point, I might as well consider using the 16-50 on one K-5, and buying a second K-5 and 50-135 to get the range I need, or ask what zooms work well on the 645D, because it's not like I can afford those either. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-20 and DA* 16-50 frustrations
Already got a magnifier. And I'm not a fan of split prism. Besides that I probably will retire the K-20, so spending more money at it seems a bit like waste. IMO OOF rendering generally isn't important in the studio. Because it isn't much to render in the background. What's most important is how it renders skin, hair and eyes. Harsh OOF rendering of hair could be a problem. I'm not sure. So I think what I'm really asking is how the 28-75 will focus in the studio light. Is that lens critical towards light temperature? I had one in the past, but I can't recall how it behaved in odd light. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/3/20 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: On 3/20/2011 2:39 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: The combo seems to front focus a lot in the studio. In fluorescent it is hit and miss. Improves in halogen light, but I can't really trust it. It seem to do ok in daylight. I'm assuming that in house AF-adjustments is not the way to go. That it will be useless outdoor if I corrects it for indoor light. Am I right about this? FA* 85 is mostly spot on. So I'm blaming the DA* 16-50. What do you think guys? Should I use the situation as an excuse for an enablement? My eyes are not up to critical manual focus indoor. Should I look for another lens to use in the studio? Tamron 28-75/2,8 could be the lens I need. Also musing at 35mm 2,8 Ltd, but I end up regretting not buying a faster 35mm. Tim, I am thinking these thoughts: * Why don't you get yourself a magnifying eye cap and a split screen focusing screen? It is going to be way less than buying a new camera. Provided you're happy with what your K20D produces when you and it hit it together. * May be you could simply bring/send the camera and the lens to local Pentax repair center for calibration? By local I mean mostly European as my understanding is that the guys in Oslo don't do gear repair like they used to several years ago. I may be off the mark here, but you and Jostein would know better, of course. * I would recommend against Tamron 28-75/2.8. Well, let me soften it a bit - I wouldn't recommend for it. I've a friend who uses it on Canon 50D and gets excellent results. But he is very masterful in post. I find that Tamron 28-75 is more prone to nervous OOF rendering than Sigma 24-60/2.8 that has become my zoom lens of choice as of recently. I cannot possibly know if it at all makes sense to suggest that you use primes instead of zooms in your studio, given that you practically control everything. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-20 and DA* 16-50 frustrations
On 3/20/2011 3:06 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Already got a magnifier. And I'm not a fan of split prism. Besides that I probably will retire the K-20, so spending more money at it seems a bit like waste. Then The Fates (*) have very little work left to be done here. IMO OOF rendering generally isn't important in the studio. Because it isn't much to render in the background. What's most important is how it renders skin, hair and eyes. Harsh OOF rendering of hair could be a problem. I'm not sure. Well, it probably depends. I've seen studio photographs where OOF played viable part in the whole motif. But you know better. So I think what I'm really asking is how the 28-75 will focus in the studio light. Is that lens critical towards light temperature? I had one in the past, but I can't recall how it behaved in odd light. I cannot possibly tell. I can tell that mine was spot on even on K10D even in relatively dim tungsten room light. I still have it by the way. Up for grabs... Boris (*) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moirae -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-20 and DA* 16-50 frustrations
May be I replied to fast. For the time being, in the work I do at the moment, the background rendering isn't critical. But that might change. So you do have a point. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/3/20 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Well, it probably depends. I've seen studio photographs where OOF played viable part in the whole motif. But you know better. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-20 and DA* 16-50 frustrations
On Mar 20, 2011, at 6:06 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Already got a magnifier. And I'm not a fan of split prism. Besides that I probably will retire the K-20, so spending more money at it seems a bit like waste. Tim, if you are eventually going to upgrade to a K-5, and you can afford to do it now, then the money you save by waiting for the price to drop will not be worth the frustration you'll pay by using the K-20 rather than the K-5 in the meantime. I don't know how much of the K-5 was produced in the area affected by the recent events, but the Japanese economy has taken enough of a hit, that I don't see supply of DSLRs outstripping demand in the near future, and the price is very likely to take a temporary upturn. Alternatively, you could get most of the performance by buying a K-r, but then you'll likely find yourself needing to carry both bodies, one for when you need performance, the other for when you need features. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On Mar 20, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Bob W wrote: Why is it that whenever someone raises this point, they always fail to recognize that the people who are subjected to waterboarding also are subjected to it in training. They know how it works. It's just that it's unpleasant enough to remain effective. the evidence suggests that it's not effective. But that's not what matters, what matters is the moral issue. Even if it was 100% effective it would still be wrong and we should not do it. That said, I'd gladly submit myself to waterboarding if you'll allow me to deploy any of the tactics typically used by the people being subjected to it in return. that's a damn silly thing to say, the sort of thing you hear in playgrounds. We're supposed to be different from those people. Use of their tactics makes us indistinguishable and means we have lost the fight to defend and promote our values. Flying an airplane full of civilians into a building is torture. Beheading a journalist on videotape so his family can see him die is torture. Waterboarding is just damn unpleasant. Paul B -- Walt On 3/20/2011 5:10 AM, Bob W wrote: There's an enormous difference between undergoing something voluntarily for training, carried out by people on your own side, in conditions where you are in control, where you know the outcome and you know when it will end, and being subjected to the same thing by your enemies while you're kept in solitary confinement with no access to anyone else, not knowing where you are, against your will, time after time for months and years, not knowing when it will be over, but knowing that it's going to happen again and again and again, and listening for the steps in the corridor that tell you they're coming back. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-20 and DA* 16-50 frustrations
My significant other would kill me for getting a K-5 now. But I could smuggle in a lens. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/3/20 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Mar 20, 2011, at 6:06 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Already got a magnifier. And I'm not a fan of split prism. Besides that I probably will retire the K-20, so spending more money at it seems a bit like waste. Tim, if you are eventually going to upgrade to a K-5, and you can afford to do it now, then the money you save by waiting for the price to drop will not be worth the frustration you'll pay by using the K-20 rather than the K-5 in the meantime. I don't know how much of the K-5 was produced in the area affected by the recent events, but the Japanese economy has taken enough of a hit, that I don't see supply of DSLRs outstripping demand in the near future, and the price is very likely to take a temporary upturn. Alternatively, you could get most of the performance by buying a K-r, but then you'll likely find yourself needing to carry both bodies, one for when you need performance, the other for when you need features. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-20 and DA* 16-50 frustrations
I suspect it's more the camera than the lens, but it's anyone's guess. I would first try fine focus adjustment in one kind of light, then see if it proves accurate in another case as well. The focus adjustment procedure is something that should be performed with all of your lenses in any case. My DA* 16-50 has worked fine with the K-7 and K-5. I'm sure I used it with the K20 as well. I don't recall any significant problems. Paul On Mar 20, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: The combo seems to front focus a lot in the studio. In fluorescent it is hit and miss. Improves in halogen light, but I can't really trust it. It seem to do ok in daylight. I'm assuming that in house AF-adjustments is not the way to go. That it will be useless outdoor if I corrects it for indoor light. Am I right about this? FA* 85 is mostly spot on. So I'm blaming the DA* 16-50. What do you think guys? Should I use the situation as an excuse for an enablement? My eyes are not up to critical manual focus indoor. Should I look for another lens to use in the studio? Tamron 28-75/2,8 could be the lens I need. Also musing at 35mm 2,8 Ltd, but I end up regretting not buying a faster 35mm. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-20 and DA* 16-50 frustrations
On 3/20/2011 3:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Interesting. That is my biggest complaint with my bigma, that I don't like the bokeh. It is my present belief (as in 'loosely proven by minimal personal experience') that zooms don't have bokeh as good as primes which has to do with the fact of life that normally high quality zooms have often almost twice as many optical elements as primes. Given most modern trend of optical stabilization in 3rd party offerings it is even more true than ever. To that end Sigma 24-60 has somewhat better bokeh than Tamron 28-75. It is even more surprising given that Sigma is wider and wide lenses have hard time dealing with OOF rendering. However Sigma has another quality that Tamron does not. Even at apertures as small as 5.6 and 8 sometimes the image glows very much like the glow of the soft lens. The effect is more pronounced at f/2.8 but it cannot possibly be said that the lens is unusable or soft wide open. So, with Tamron I had a bit of a gamble with OOF rendering being nervous. With Sigma I gamble on the glowing image. But if hits it, it hits big, bigger than Tamron - sharp, nice OOF rendering, very good overall IQ. All of the above is spoken based on just two samples and just one photographer. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
2011/3/20 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Flying an airplane full of civilians into a building is torture. Beheading a journalist on videotape so his family can see him die is torture. Waterboarding is just damn unpleasant. uncontestedly waterboarding is less evil. but perpetrating something less evil to possibly prevent something more evil makes you just that: less evil. but nonetheless evil. not good. and by a far cry not morally superior. maybe you're a bit farther down on the food chain but still an evildoer. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 3/20/2011 8:34 AM, eckinator wrote: 2011/3/20 Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net: Flying an airplane full of civilians into a building is torture. Beheading a journalist on videotape so his family can see him die is torture. Waterboarding is just damn unpleasant. uncontestedly waterboarding is less evil. but perpetrating something less evil to possibly prevent something more evil makes you just that: less evil. but nonetheless evil. not good. and by a far cry not morally superior. maybe you're a bit farther down on the food chain but still an evildoer. Lesser evils are sometimes necessary evils. The bombing of Dresden springs immediately to mind. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Do you know sh1t?
3/5 Dave On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:18 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: http://enature.com/challenge/scatChallenge.asp 5/5 for me, although I had to guess one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - On top of the Sarcophagus
Lovely detail and great scene Dave On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 2:47 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/topptur-sarkofagen.html This shouldn't be too dark for anyone's eyes. :-) Still gives me a memory of vertigo, though. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Thirty Five years ago.
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:46 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:26 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: snip What were you doing 35 years ago about this time.?? snip Hmmm... Among other things, Kaufman made Sorel winter boots - at that time they were very unfashionable snowmobile and work boots for subzero temps. I bet Dave wore them whilst surveying up north! I sure did. When Kaufman went under, someone bought the rights to that line. Right now they're the hottest winter boot fashion around, to be seen adorning the feet of all sorts of young hotties and hipsters. I KNEW i was still a hotty and a hipster./:-) Dave cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s)- ...
I laughed so hard i peed my self. Dave On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: Just having fun, life has been too serious* lately... http://bongmanayon.posterous.com/46557673 *Well, usually...for those in Facebook, you would have gotten wind of a recent exhibit of mostly my photos hosted by the local government of Quezon City (Philippines). -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Swinger
Good angle. Dave On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12836332 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - For St. Patrick's Day
Nice contrast in the colours and lighting Dave On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Two days late for St. Patrick's Day; and actually I shot this in Chicago last May. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12835735 (K10D, DA 16-45) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: St. Pat's with Friends
I likek this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5537530335/in/set-72157626295321826/ Dave On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a few photos I shot while celebrating St. Patrick's Day with a few friends. Everyone had a great time, but not quite as great as the proud grandparents of the little boy in these photos, both of whom are shown enjoying the company of the li'l fella. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626295321826/ K-x, DA L 18-55, Portrait mode, ISO Auto 800 Comments, critiques and suggestions are all appreciated, of course. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: St. Pat's with Friends
Thanks, David! I really liked the moment I managed to capture, though I wish it had been a wee bit sharper. Still, I thought it was joyful, which always makes for nice, feelgood snapshots. -- Walt On 3/20/2011 8:48 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I likek this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5537530335/in/set-72157626295321826/ Dave On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a few photos I shot while celebrating St. Patrick's Day with a few friends. Everyone had a great time, but not quite as great as the proud grandparents of the little boy in these photos, both of whom are shown enjoying the company of the li'l fella. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626295321826/ K-x, DA L 18-55, Portrait mode, ISO Auto 800 Comments, critiques and suggestions are all appreciated, of course. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic thread limit?
You know, guys, it's very important for my personal entertainment hat this thread develop into a heated and irrational argument. I'm just sayin'. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/20/2011 2:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. Ok, Larry, you called for it. Or like they say in France - defend yourself... Let us joust-dot-net... Boris P.S. Interestingly enough in Russian it is the other way around - We say that sun shines but don't warm when winter is coming... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bill is the man
On 11-03-20 7:14 AM, Derby Chang wrote: I know street fashion is not so hot on this list. But not everyone can do what Bill does; kudos to him I say. Anyone who can get Anna Nuclear Wintour to go wobbly is tops in my books. http://www.slate.com/id/2288743/ A good read, and now I'm looking forward to the film. Thanks for the pointer, Derby. My feeble emulation http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/11/11_03/11_03_gallery/01.htm On the contrary, sir; excellent! Love the 'tude. :) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic thread limit?
On 3/20/2011 3:58 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: You know, guys, it's very important for my personal entertainment hat this thread develop into a heated and irrational argument. I'm just sayin'. I am sorry to disappoint you, Steve. You see, I meant it as a passing joke, whereas Larry, as he explained off the list, took it as a challenge. But I don't like flame wars, therefore I withdraw. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic thread limit?
On Mar 20, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Larry Colen wrote: And as soon as I post the above, I see the following link: http://twentytwowords.com/2011/03/15/a-flowchart-to-help-you-determine-if-youre-having-a-rational-discussion/ Good to have in mind, but I'm glad it's not the rule. As the first commenter said, No discussion in the history of mankind has made it through this flowchart. And by the way, is this topic off topic? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 20/03/2011 6:21 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: With what's going on in Wisconsin, it's pretty hard to argue otherwise. That's an utterly ignorant (if unsurprising) statement. So you are saying you are about as ignorant about what is going on in your own country as what is going on everywhere else. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
No, Bill. What I'm saying is that anyone who would say such a plainly idiotic thing obviously hasn't got the foggiest notion of what a Nazi is. -- Walt On 3/20/2011 9:15 AM, William Robb wrote: On 20/03/2011 6:21 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: With what's going on in Wisconsin, it's pretty hard to argue otherwise. That's an utterly ignorant (if unsurprising) statement. So you are saying you are about as ignorant about what is going on in your own country as what is going on everywhere else. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 20/03/2011 6:27 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: That said, I'd gladly submit myself to waterboarding if you'll allow me to deploy any of the tactics typically used by the people being subjected to it in return. Does that include bombing civilians by the USAF? Just wondering. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 3/20/2011 9:17 AM, William Robb wrote: On 20/03/2011 6:27 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: That said, I'd gladly submit myself to waterboarding if you'll allow me to deploy any of the tactics typically used by the people being subjected to it in return. Does that include bombing civilians by the USAF? Just wondering. I fail to see the how having a bomb dropped on you is in anyway preferable to having a plane flown into your building, or being on that plane. Still wondering? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 20/03/2011 7:23 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Flying an airplane full of civilians into a building is torture.Beheading a journalist on videotape so his family can see him die is torture. Waterboarding is just damn unpleasant. No Paul, waterboarding is just a rung or two down the evil ladder. It doesn't make it good, just slightly less bad. Just because my dog's breath is not as stinky as your dog's breath doesn't make my dog's breath pleasant. As an aside, blind and unquestioning patriotism is very damaging to your country's best interests. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 20/03/2011 7:37 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Lesser evils are sometimes necessary evils. The bombing of Dresden springs immediately to mind. Just don't try to hold yourself up as a paragon of civilization and democracy after practising your lesser evils, since every lesser evil brings you closer and closer to being the evil that you like to think you abhor. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 3/20/2011 9:26 AM, William Robb wrote: On 20/03/2011 7:37 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Lesser evils are sometimes necessary evils. The bombing of Dresden springs immediately to mind. Just don't try to hold yourself up as a paragon of civilization and democracy after practising your lesser evils, since every lesser evil brings you closer and closer to being the evil that you like to think you abhor. Duly noted as written by a man who can't distinguish between the dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions and running Jews through gas chambers and incinerators. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-20 and DA* 16-50 frustrations
The thing is that I never noticed this before I sended it in for a locked zoom ring. And I've never noticed it in daylight. In fact, I've never noticed it at all. What kind of light would you try first? -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/3/20 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: I suspect it's more the camera than the lens, but it's anyone's guess. I would first try fine focus adjustment in one kind of light, then see if it proves accurate in another case as well. The focus adjustment procedure is something that should be performed with all of your lenses in any case. My DA* 16-50 has worked fine with the K-7 and K-5. I'm sure I used it with the K20 as well. I don't recall any significant problems. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Swinger
On Mar 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12836332 Her joy is contagious. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Coalmine#2b- Jens
This morning I Hued my monitor and went with the Corrected version. Don't always. It's early and full dark. The room is lit by 2 60w (warm and cool) incandescent bulbs behind a serious defusing glass shade. I pulled up the Coalmine image and could make out something more than I could during the day yesterday. I know I would still have wanted to see more clearly defined detail, however. There are two 'prox 3'x4' north facing windows about 3 1/2' to my left which sit at right angles to the screen. I do keep track of the angle of the LED and always keep it the slightest bit angled to the right to be safe. During the daylight, I keep the curtains and venetian blinds completely open. The room itself is fairly small and can be considered bright at times. Yesterday, however, was a heavily overcast rainy day. There is no doubt that the window light can have a defusing effect on my view of the screen's contrast and, in the future, I'll reserve judgment in this area 'til I've had another look. Jack --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: PESO - Coalmine#2b To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 7:24 PM well I've discovered its my eyes, not my monitor. Once I copied it I pasted it on to a file that was solid black and made that take p my entire screen. I can't look at dark things on a white background on the screen. The glare prevents my eyes from adjusting, I think. Once I put Josteins photo against a black background I saw the ridge and the building... You guys have probably noticed all my photos online are on a black background on smugmug. I'm relieved it is my eyes and not my machine:-) ann Doug Franklin wrote: On 2011-03-18 17:01, AlunFoto wrote: It's been some interesting days at Svalbard, in the Chinese sense of the word. One can chose to go grumpy or see it as part of the Arctic experience... Anyways, tonight we saw a sudden break in the weather, and I scuttled out (as far as that is possible with skis...) and did my best in a radius of about 1 km from the guesthouse I stay at. Here's one of my catches: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/gruve-2b.html On my calibrated monitor, it's an actual photo, not just an exercise in photographic pointillism. It's really dark (low key) but there's a beautiful photo hiding behind that darkness, folks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Coalmine#2b
On 3/18/2011 11:01 PM, AlunFoto wrote: It's been some interesting days at Svalbard, in the Chinese sense of the word. One can chose to go grumpy or see it as part of the Arctic experience... Anyways, tonight we saw a sudden break in the weather, and I scuttled out (as far as that is possible with skis...) and did my best in a radius of about 1 km from the guesthouse I stay at. Here's one of my catches: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/gruve-2b.html If Dune novels were about Svalbard, the planet of snow instead of Arrakis, the planet of sand, then this could have been an excellent illustration to put on the front cover of the book. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Why no videos?
Hello list, There seems to be quite a number of you folks out there who now have newer DSLRs with video capabilities. It's been a year or more since these cameras came online but I don't see any VideoESOs flying past in the PDML. Granted, I don't check the list as often as I used to and I don't read nearly as many of your messages as I once did (I AM still watching you though...Cotty... and Frank... and Doug) but I figured by now video submissions would be a common occurrence around here. Is video a gimmick feature that you just don't use? Are your videos too racy? (let us judge ;) Is making decent videos just too hard? Or are you guys just too much the old dog type or even purists? For my part, having at least six video cameras lying around the house (I'm actually surprised by this number but I'm counting the cell phones and PS cameras + 1 Flip style camera), I find that the same problems that have plagued us since the days of film-based home movies. Just rolling during family events and outings produces lots of crap footage that nobody really wants to edit into a package that anyone besides Grandma would want to watch. So, Why no VESOs, y'all? Cory -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off Topic thread limit?
You're wrong. ;) CW On 3/20/2011 8:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of your point of view after a few posts, you aren't going to. Internet arguments, special olympics. 'nuff said. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - On top of the Sarcophagus
AlunFoto wrote: The person on the pillar is flesh and blood. Not a buddy, just one of four skiers who got to the peak right ahead of me. His girlfriend called out to make him stretch his arms for the pose. Jostein Ah ha - but he _did_ pose for you - that's what I was getting at so it wasnt Mark ... ;-) ann 2011/3/19 Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: Well I sure can see that one! Thanks, my friend :-) brr. and lovely -- so tell me, is that tiny person on the end of the arrete a person or a piece of sculpture? I like to think you sent one of your buddies out there to pose - someone as crazy as Mark Roberts... ann AlunFoto wrote: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/topptur-sarkofagen.html This shouldn't be too dark for anyone's eyes. :-) Still gives me a memory of vertigo, though. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Coalmine#2b
What an interesting idea. It does have an otherworldly look to it. -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:54:29 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Coalmine#2b On 3/18/2011 11:01 PM, AlunFoto wrote: It's been some interesting days at Svalbard, in the Chinese sense of the word. One can chose to go grumpy or see it as part of the Arctic experience... Anyways, tonight we saw a sudden break in the weather, and I scuttled out (as far as that is possible with skis...) and did my best in a radius of about 1 km from the guesthouse I stay at. Here's one of my catches: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/gruve-2b.html If Dune novels were about Svalbard, the planet of snow instead of Arrakis, the planet of sand, then this could have been an excellent illustration to put on the front cover of the book. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Do you know sh1t?
well Sh*t _ I answered the first, got it right - answered the second and hitting the submit button didnt get me to the next one oh poo.. maybe I'll try again later ann Larry Colen wrote: On Mar 20, 2011, at 1:18 AM, mike wilson wrote: http://enature.com/challenge/scatChallenge.asp 5/5 for me, although I had to guess one. 5/5 several were educated guesses. As a kid our pets included ferrets, dogs, rabbits, and an otter, plus I've had to clean up raccoon scat in my attic, and have seen deer fewmets on trails near the house, so I could ID, or rule out several of the options. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why no videos?
I'm not interested in doing videos. Nothing wrong with it, I'm just a still life shooter. To be honest, I usually don't like looking at them either. -Original Message- From: Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:11:06 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Why no videos? Hello list, There seems to be quite a number of you folks out there who now have newer DSLRs with video capabilities. It's been a year or more since these cameras came online but I don't see any VideoESOs flying past in the PDML. Granted, I don't check the list as often as I used to and I don't read nearly as many of your messages as I once did (I AM still watching you though...Cotty... and Frank... and Doug) but I figured by now video submissions would be a common occurrence around here. Is video a gimmick feature that you just don't use? Are your videos too racy? (let us judge ;) Is making decent videos just too hard? Or are you guys just too much the old dog type or even purists? For my part, having at least six video cameras lying around the house (I'm actually surprised by this number but I'm counting the cell phones and PS cameras + 1 Flip style camera), I find that the same problems that have plagued us since the days of film-based home movies. Just rolling during family events and outings produces lots of crap footage that nobody really wants to edit into a package that anyone besides Grandma would want to watch. So, Why no VESOs, y'all? Cory -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - On top of the Sarcophagus
Ann Sanfedele wrote: Well I sure can see that one! Thanks, my friend :-) brr. and lovely -- so tell me, is that tiny person on the end of the arrete a person or a piece of sculpture? I like to think you sent one of your buddies out there to pose - someone as crazy as Mark Roberts... It wasn't me, but I'd do it in a heartbeat if I had the chance :) http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/topptur-sarkofagen.html -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote: the dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions I fail to see why anyone would want that, except to treat fellow humans less equitably. Being promoted by the corn-fed fascist who recently awarded the tax breaks that precipitated his state's budget crisis seems to be merely icing on the cake. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 3/20/2011 10:31 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote: the dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions I fail to see why anyone would want that, except to treat fellow humans less equitably. Being promoted by the corn-fed fascist who recently awarded the tax breaks that precipitated his state's budget crisis seems to be merely icing on the cake. It's at the very least debatable who the corn-fed fascists are here. http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/03/12-death-threat-photos-against-gov.html I want to make this perfectly clear. Because of your actions today and in the past couple of weeks I and the group of people that are working with me have decided that we've had enough. We feel that you and your republican dictators have to die. This is how it's going to happen: I as well as many others know where you and your family live, it's a matter of public records. We have all planned to assult you by arriving at your house and putting a nice little bullet in your head. However, this isn't enough. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the message. So we have built several bombs that we have placed in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent. This includes, your house, your car, the state capitol, and well I won't tell you all of them because that's just no fun. Since we know that you are not smart enough to figure out why this is happening to you we have decided to make it perfectly clear to you. If you and your goonies feel that it's necessary to strip the rights of 300,000 people and ruin their lives, making them unable to feed, clothe, and provide the necessities to their families and themselves then We will get rid of (in which I mean kill) the 8 of you. Please understand that this does not include the heroic Senator that risked everything to go aganist what you and your goonies wanted him to do. The 8 includes the 7 senators and the dictator. We feel that it's worth our lives becasue we would be saving the lives of 300,000 people. Please make your peace with God as soon as possible and say goodbye to your loved ones we will not wait any longer. Goodbye ASSHOLE http://www.doj.state.wi.us/absolutenm/templates/template_share.aspx?articleid=2448zoneid=1 -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why no videos?
For me video is a write-only medium. The programs for taking raw video and polishing it are so huge and complex and irritating that I just can't bring myself to struggle with them. So I shoot video then let it languish unprocessed. -T On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hello list, There seems to be quite a number of you folks out there who now have newer DSLRs with video capabilities. It's been a year or more since these cameras came online but I don't see any VideoESOs flying past in the PDML. Granted, I don't check the list as often as I used to and I don't read nearly as many of your messages as I once did (I AM still watching you though...Cotty... and Frank... and Doug) but I figured by now video submissions would be a common occurrence around here. Is video a gimmick feature that you just don't use? Are your videos too racy? (let us judge ;) Is making decent videos just too hard? Or are you guys just too much the old dog type or even purists? For my part, having at least six video cameras lying around the house (I'm actually surprised by this number but I'm counting the cell phones and PS cameras + 1 Flip style camera), I find that the same problems that have plagued us since the days of film-based home movies. Just rolling during family events and outings produces lots of crap footage that nobody really wants to edit into a package that anyone besides Grandma would want to watch. So, Why no VESOs, y'all? Cory -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why no videos?
On 20/3/11, Cory Waters, discombobulated, unleashed: So, Why no VESOs, y'all? Not having a K5, couldn't possibly comment :-P -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rubber enablement
On 20/3/11, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: I wasn't planning on going shopping today, but it happened. So in an annex popup to a vintage fashion store run by a friend, I saw a bag. Rubber Killer is the label, and they recycle truck tyres. The strap is a recycled seat belt. I know I'm crossing the gender accesory line, but I love it as a camera bag that doesn't look like a camera bag. Fits an M, with maybe an extra summicron. And a pen and pad, for that docojournalist in me. Mmmmrubber Pic please -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2011 - 045 - GDG
A fresh Communicating series photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5542960187/lightbox/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5542960187/ enjoy, Godfrey - Communicating series slideshow: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157625844414410/show/ (remove show/ if you have problems with flash presentation.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why no videos?
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: There seems to be quite a number of you folks out there who now have newer DSLRs with video capabilities. It's been a year or more since these cameras came online but I don't see any VideoESOs flying past in the PDML. Granted, I don't check the list as often as I used to and I don't read nearly as many of your messages as I once did (I AM still watching you though...Cotty... and Frank... and Doug) but I figured by now video submissions would be a common occurrence around here. Is video a gimmick feature that you just don't use? Are your videos too racy? (let us judge ;) Is making decent videos just too hard? Or are you guys just too much the old dog type or even purists? For my part, having at least six video cameras lying around the house (I'm actually surprised by this number but I'm counting the cell phones and PS cameras + 1 Flip style camera), I find that the same problems that have plagued us since the days of film-based home movies. Just rolling during family events and outings produces lots of crap footage that nobody really wants to edit into a package that anyone besides Grandma would want to watch. So, Why no VESOs, y'all? I have video capture capability with the E-5 and have captured a few clips. They're fun ... http://www.gdgphoto.com/menlo_school/ ... but hardly what I'd consider representative of the medium's capabilities. I'm interested to do more motion work however. I purchased a book ... From Still To Motion by Ball, Harrington et al ... which looks to be a good starting point from which to do more sophisticated work. Haven't had time this year as yet but as my book contract is winding down, I'm looking forward to having the time to get more involved with it. When I was in High School and started college, I did a lot of cine work in 16mm. Capturing motion, doing sophisticated films, takes planning, scripting, etc. For more than very carefully contrived or simple efforts, it's a team sport. I'm not interested in the funniest crappy home videos level of motion capture, so doing anything significant in this domain implies a good bit of learning and practice time before I start pumping out video of the day things. ... -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On Mar 20, 2011, at 11:31 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote: the dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions I fail to see why anyone would want that, except to treat fellow humans less equitably. Being promoted by the corn-fed fascist who recently awarded the tax breaks that precipitated his state's budget crisis seems to be merely icing on the cake. You obviously haven't been following the Wisconsin situation closely, except perhaps Michael Moore's fictional version. Collective bargaining on non-salary issues in Wisconsin resulted in regulations that forced the state to keep a special education school open that had one student and four teachers. It forced them to fire four young, enthusiastic teachers when cuts had to be made, rather than one old guy who had been suspended twice for abusing students. And collective bargaining rights for salary haven't been lost. All that's changed is that the unions won't be able to dictate the way the state is run. The corn-fed fascist, you refer to in your ad hominem attack, didn't cause the current budget crisis. He's only been in office for 60 days. He has tried to provide a better climate for business, so that manufacturers might stay in the state, and perhaps even some new ones will relocate there -- rather than in the multitude of states that have low business taxes and right-to-work laws that effectively neuter unions. Wisconsin is still a union state; many others are not. Oh, and by the way, the governor was elected at the ballot box. The people chose him and his policies. But this debate is a far cry from Ecke's snide little remarks about those who oppose wikileaks. It's really out of control and has led to so much nonsense. Most of it from people who have no grasp of U.S. issues or politics. I'm finished. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Interesant utstilling.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?fbid=10150114524324527set=a.10150108690924527.277404.524984526theater Disse ga meg sterke assosiasjoner til dine arbeider. Fargebruk, inndeling av flatene, ramme osv. Men liker dine bedre :-) Du pirrer nysgjerigheta mi mer. Men tenkte du kanskje var interesert i dem. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-20 and DA* 16-50 frustrations
On Mar 20, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: The thing is that I never noticed this before I sended it in for a locked zoom ring. And I've never noticed it in daylight. In fact, I've never noticed it at all. What kind of light would you try first? It doesn't matter which test comes first. As long as you check autofocus calibration in both daylight and artificial light. You have to do it with an accurate scale and a tripod. It's impossible to obtain valid results handholding. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/3/20 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: I suspect it's more the camera than the lens, but it's anyone's guess. I would first try fine focus adjustment in one kind of light, then see if it proves accurate in another case as well. The focus adjustment procedure is something that should be performed with all of your lenses in any case. My DA* 16-50 has worked fine with the K-7 and K-5. I'm sure I used it with the K20 as well. I don't recall any significant problems. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Why no videos?
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Cory Waters There seems to be quite a number of you folks out there who now have newer DSLRs with video capabilities. It's been a year or more since these cameras came online but I don't see any VideoESOs flying past in the PDML. [...] Grandma would want to watch. So, Why no VESOs, y'all? everyone's intimidated because Orson Wells is one of our members. Apart from that I'd quite like to make one when I have a camera with video. Not because I have a burning desire to make videos in general, but because there is one particular scene I watch occasionally here that I would like to put on film and show people. I think it would also be quite interesting to try and make a short movie because I'm doing a course in French cinema, and in my experience actually trying to do something yourself yields a great deal of insight into the difficulties other people face. Jean-Luc Godard said To make a film all you need is a girl and a gun, but I suspect it helps if you also have a camera. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why no videos?
Video takes a lot of work to do well and generally requires a lot more support than stills do. And most DSLR's produce lousy video (particularly Pentax and Sony Video-capable DSLR's). And you need a new set of software to edit (and good video involves a LOT more editing than stills work). Frankly unless you're a PJ, event shooter or somebody shooting clips for personal use (video snapshots of kids/family/friends) Video on DSLR's is mostly useless and requires skills that most still shooters don't have and aren't interested in developing. Personally I've shot a bit with both the K-x and now the A33. But the results were shit, much as I expected. I don't feel like spending the time necessary learning to get good at it, even though I've actually got a reasonable amount of experience (I've been doing bits of video on and off for 20 years now) -Adam On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hello list, There seems to be quite a number of you folks out there who now have newer DSLRs with video capabilities. It's been a year or more since these cameras came online but I don't see any VideoESOs flying past in the PDML. Granted, I don't check the list as often as I used to and I don't read nearly as many of your messages as I once did (I AM still watching you though...Cotty... and Frank... and Doug) but I figured by now video submissions would be a common occurrence around here. Is video a gimmick feature that you just don't use? Are your videos too racy? (let us judge ;) Is making decent videos just too hard? Or are you guys just too much the old dog type or even purists? For my part, having at least six video cameras lying around the house (I'm actually surprised by this number but I'm counting the cell phones and PS cameras + 1 Flip style camera), I find that the same problems that have plagued us since the days of film-based home movies. Just rolling during family events and outings produces lots of crap footage that nobody really wants to edit into a package that anyone besides Grandma would want to watch. So, Why no VESOs, y'all? Cory -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why no videos?
Cory - I pointed to two VESO's on youtube and smugmug of mine and hardly anyone commented -- although a couple did of course -- they were taken with a (s) darkside PS I looked at them as a diversion not taking them too seriously, just for fun kinda thing - they were an awful lot of work. they are here- if you are curious and didnt see'em before. http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/videos/11197641_mr8gw/1/1170562534_kPJ5z/Large http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/videos/11197641_mr8gw/1/1179653106_t57MJ/Large ann Cotty wrote: On 20/3/11, Cory Waters, discombobulated, unleashed: So, Why no VESOs, y'all? Not having a K5, couldn't possibly comment :-P -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
