Re: Predictions, anyone?

2004-04-02 Thread John Mustarde
Prediction:

Pentax DSLR with built-in endoscope.  

Camera name:  *Ouch.

Will kick competition in the you-know-what.


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Re: Predictions, anyone?

2004-04-02 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 05:28:52 -0700 
From: John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Prediction: 

Pentax DSLR with built-in endoscope.   

Camera name:  *Ouch. 

Will kick competition in the you-know-what. 

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Re: Predictions, anyone?

2004-04-02 Thread Steve Desjardins
I have to reply on this one.  I have no doubt at all that Pentax will
produce a low end digital  The only question is when it will come out. 
This is THE market.  The *ist D was needed first for reputation and
trial technology reasons, but they will make much more money on the low
end camera, Canon or not.  After all, Pentax produces cheap film SLRs to
compete with the Rebel, and that's a lot more of a losing battle than
the DSLR market.

IMHO, of course . . . g


Steven Desjardins
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Washington and Lee University
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/02/04 02:45AM 
In a message dated 3/31/2004 2:49:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think we'll see the Baby D by Xmas along with some more optios. 
IOW,
I agree with Bill.


Steven Desjardins

Yeah, I don't think there is any profit to Pentax in producing a Baby
D. Not 
really. No point in competing with C, they wouldn't capture much of
the 
potential 300D market. And they've already dropped the *istD to be more

competitively priced for a mid to upper end DSLR. More optios, sure.
And maybe a 
second generation *istD... someday. Or a MF equivalent. Be nicer if
they did one or 
both of those anyway.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: Predictions, anyone?

2004-04-02 Thread Kenneth Waller
Reminds me of the butcher that backed into his meat grinder

and got alittle behind in his work.

Kenneth Waller

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From: John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Predictions, anyone?


 Prediction:

 Pentax DSLR with built-in endoscope.

 Camera name:  *Ouch.

 Will kick competition in the you-know-what.


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RE: Predictions, anyone?

2004-04-02 Thread Jens Bladt
Most people use zooms anayway. With non changeable lenses you get almost
zero dust on the CCD. So what's the point of changeable lenses. Woun't they
be history shortly? I mean, they change camera features, CCD's, format etc.
all the time anyway! So why not ditch changable lenses? BEfor you get a
chance to build a full system, the Camera will be obsolete or old news!

Jens Bladt

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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 31. marts 2004 23:01
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Predictions, anyone?


The Nikon 8700 seems to set a new standard.
Nice lens, compact design.  8mp!  Modest price.
Just lacks the integerchangable lens.
I guess they hope to sell it to those shopping for the little Canon
(or even their cheapie) but perhaps wanting to trade interchangable
lenses for a more durable body.  It's really a nice unit.

And the istD seems to be around the $1200 price range (online).

So what will Pentax show this Christmas?
A) Nothing, as always
B) $500 fixed-lens PS
C) Seriously dropping the istD price to soak the Pentax buyer market
D) Other ___






RE: Predictions, anyone?

2004-04-02 Thread Jens Bladt
What Pentax willcome up with at Christmas has already left the drawing
table (autocad or whatever) and is on the way to prototyping, testing etc.
NMo need to get or give advice. That train has left already, I believe.

Jens Bladt
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Fra: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 1. april 2004 00:13
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Predictions, anyone?


I agree but the prediction was for This Christmas as in 8 months from now.
Pentax will come up with new DSLRs in the future, I'm sure.  But with their
track record of being slow I wouldn't predict anything in that area for
this Christmas.  (and my more PS comment should have been: More DIGITAL
PSes).

Christian

- Original Message -
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Predictions, anyone?


 If Pentax were only planning more PSs, they would surely not have made
 the big investment in the *ist D, and the new digital lenses.

 They are clearly planning to be in the digital SLR market, and with
 APS-sized sensors.

 John

 On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:19:39 -0500, Christian
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  have there been any reviews on the 8700?  8MP and a tiny sensor
  Seems
  to me, there have been problems with other cameras (noise at anything
but
  the lowest ISO and chromatic aberrations) with this combination...
 
  I predict only more PSes from Pentax...
 
  Christian





Predictions, anyone?

2004-03-31 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
The Nikon 8700 seems to set a new standard.
Nice lens, compact design.  8mp!  Modest price.
Just lacks the integerchangable lens.
I guess they hope to sell it to those shopping for the little Canon
(or even their cheapie) but perhaps wanting to trade interchangable
lenses for a more durable body.  It's really a nice unit.

And the istD seems to be around the $1200 price range (online).

So what will Pentax show this Christmas?
A) Nothing, as always
B) $500 fixed-lens PS
C) Seriously dropping the istD price to soak the Pentax buyer market
D) Other ___




Re: Predictions, anyone?

2004-03-31 Thread Christian
have there been any reviews on the 8700?  8MP and a tiny sensor  Seems
to me, there have been problems with other cameras (noise at anything but
the lowest ISO and chromatic aberrations) with this combination...

I predict only more PSes from Pentax...

Christian

- Original Message - 
From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:00 PM
Subject: Predictions, anyone?


 The Nikon 8700 seems to set a new standard.
 Nice lens, compact design.  8mp!  Modest price.
 Just lacks the integerchangable lens.
 I guess they hope to sell it to those shopping for the little Canon
 (or even their cheapie) but perhaps wanting to trade interchangable
 lenses for a more durable body.  It's really a nice unit.

 And the istD seems to be around the $1200 price range (online).

 So what will Pentax show this Christmas?
 A) Nothing, as always
 B) $500 fixed-lens PS
 C) Seriously dropping the istD price to soak the Pentax buyer market
 D) Other ___





Re: Predictions, anyone?

2004-03-31 Thread Bill Owens
D) Other:

I would expect a DSLR to compete with the Rebel D, as well as updated
Optios, The official camera of the internet 8-)

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:00 PM
Subject: Predictions, anyone?


 The Nikon 8700 seems to set a new standard.
 Nice lens, compact design.  8mp!  Modest price.
 Just lacks the integerchangable lens.
 I guess they hope to sell it to those shopping for the little Canon
 (or even their cheapie) but perhaps wanting to trade interchangable
 lenses for a more durable body.  It's really a nice unit.

 And the istD seems to be around the $1200 price range (online).

 So what will Pentax show this Christmas?
 A) Nothing, as always
 B) $500 fixed-lens PS
 C) Seriously dropping the istD price to soak the Pentax buyer market
 D) Other ___







Re: OT: Nikon CoolPix (was Predictions, anyone?)

2004-03-31 Thread Kenneth Waller
We just bought a bunch of Nikon 5700 Coolpixs at work. I gotta tell ya for
around $600 its one heck of a camera. IIR the optical range goes from 1.2 
(super macro) to 280mm (in 35mm format sense). It will do everything the
35mm slrs they replace did. It's really funny watching my fellow workers
trying to come to grips with the workings of the digital. They won't read
the manual and consequently are trying to convince all that will listen that
the digitals won't cut it.

Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Predictions, anyone?


 The Nikon 8700 seems to set a new standard.
 Nice lens, compact design.  8mp!  Modest price.
 Just lacks the integerchangable lens.
 I guess they hope to sell it to those shopping for the little Canon
 (or even their cheapie) but perhaps wanting to trade interchangable
 lenses for a more durable body.  It's really a nice unit.

 And the istD seems to be around the $1200 price range (online).

 So what will Pentax show this Christmas?
 A) Nothing, as always
 B) $500 fixed-lens PS
 C) Seriously dropping the istD price to soak the Pentax buyer market
 D) Other ___





Re: Predictions, anyone?

2004-03-31 Thread Herb Chong
all ofthe current 8MP PS cameras, including Canon's, use the same sensor
from Sony with mostly the same problems, too much noise at anything other
than ISO 50.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:00 PM
Subject: Predictions, anyone?


 The Nikon 8700 seems to set a new standard.
 Nice lens, compact design.  8mp!  Modest price.
 Just lacks the integerchangable lens.




Re: Predictions, anyone?

2004-03-31 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: Predictions, anyone?




 I'll go along with that.
 A Rebel-D competitor *announced* by end of year. Availability in
the
 following spring.

Thats at the Ulan Bator show, right?

William Robb