Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thanks to all who responded.

The point of some computers not having an optical drive is a good one.
In any case, - it looks like there course of action has changed anyway.

So, in the end, I will not be distributing anything, except for a link to 
a password-protected website with HTML galleries.


Igor

PS. Larry, it looks like your messages didn't make it to the 
mail-archive-based web archive of the list:

https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/
But it made it to the pdml.net own archive...



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Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD

[John Sessoms]

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On 5/18/2017 01:33, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




 John Wed, 17 May 2017 16:12:19 -0700 wrote:


Why does it need to be installed? Wouldn't just a CD with folders to
organize the photos suffice?


Not installed. I am considering that it would run a photo viewer or a
web browser (unless autorun is disabled). That's for those who don't
know what to do with Jpeg files..



Ok, the URL you included was about how to make cross platform
*installation* CDs.

My experience with Windoze, if you insert a CD with just image files &
no autorun, it opens an AutoPlay Dialog, with options to import photos
or to open the folder to view files using Windows Explorer. Windows
default import setting copies the images into "My Pictures".

In Explorer, you can double click the photo's icon and it will open in
whatever photo program you have installed. If you don't already have a
program installed for viewing photos, it opens with "Windows Photo Viewer.

Probably the more important consideration though was Larry's point about
so many of the newer computers no longer having CD/DVD drives. None of
the MacBooks have them. I don't think even the iMacs have them anymore.

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Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD

[Jan van Wijk]

Hi Stan,

On Thu, 18 May 2017 08:30:56 -0400 Stanley Halpin wrote:
>
>Thanks Jan!

You're welcome!

>> On May 18, 2017, at 5:54 AM, Jan van Wijk  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, when preview is the one used (default unless changed by the user),
>> it is quite easy to view a complete folder of JPG images.

Just noticed you can even set it it to a 'slideshow' modus (after selecting all 
files).
It is in the 'view' menu, just like the 'full screen'.

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Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD

[Stanley Halpin]

Thanks Jan!

> On May 18, 2017, at 5:54 AM, Jan van Wijk  wrote:
> 
> 
> Actually, when preview is the one used (default unless changed by the user),
> it is quite easy to view a complete folder of JPG images.
> 
> 
> You use 'Finder' (the directory browser) to navigate to the folder, 
> double-click to open it.
> 
> Once in the folder use 'cmd+A' to select all files,  the double-click on any
> of the selected ones to open all of them in preview.
> 
> Preview has a sidebar with thumbnails, and you can use up/down arrow keys
> to go through the set. You can also switch to full-screen mode, and the
> arrow keys still work then (but the sidebar is gone :)
> 
> To move to the next folder, close preview, and return to the 'finder' window.
> 
> Regards, JvW
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Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD

[Jan van Wijk]

On Wed, 17 May 2017 21:01:25 -0400 Stanley Halpin wrote:
>
>>> But I wonder, with a modern Mac, what happens when you insert a CD with a 
>>> set of folders containing JPEGs into a Mac: will it offer to open a photo 
>>> viewer (if nothing is configured to happen as 
discussed in #2 above)?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Igor
>>> 
>> I believe it will totally depend on how the user preferences are set. On my 
>> iMac, a CD with folders of photos is just like any other set of folders. 
>> If/when I double-click on an actual image file (not a folder 
or sub-folder), then Something will rise up to digest that file and render it 
in all its glory. It might be Preview, it might be Photos, it might be Elements 
or it might be Lightroom. etc. All depends on 
Preferences. Most likely it will not be an app that will smoothly allow for 
right-arrow/left-arrow movement from image to image. A lot of open file, view, 
close file, and repeat
 
Actually, when preview is the one used (default unless changed by the user),
it is quite easy to view a complete folder of JPG images.


You use 'Finder' (the directory browser) to navigate to the folder, 
double-click to open it.

Once in the folder use 'cmd+A' to select all files,  the double-click on any
of the selected ones to open all of them in preview.

Preview has a sidebar with thumbnails, and you can use up/down arrow keys
to go through the set. You can also switch to full-screen mode, and the
arrow keys still work then (but the sidebar is gone :)

To move to the next folder, close preview, and return to the 'finder' window.

Regards, JvW

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Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD

[Igor PDML-StR]

 John Wed, 17 May 2017 16:12:19 -0700 wrote:

Why does it need to be installed? Wouldn't just a CD with folders to 
organize the photos suffice?


Not installed. I am considering that it would run a photo viewer or a 
web browser (unless autorun is disabled). That's for those who don't know 
what to do with Jpeg files..



Boris and Stan:
Yes, I hear you, and I use a very similar way of passing photographs to
people - via various *box cloud storage or my-own website.
In this case, the format is chosen by the teachers. It's either because 
they are used to that, or because they want to give people something 
tangible (or both). I will try to talk to them, but I am not going to 
insist. (And I won't be burning all the CDs myself. ... probably )


Stan, thank you for offering to check the format.. Unfortunately, it will 
be happening all too quickly that I won't have time for that.



Cheers,

Igor


On Wed, 17 May 2017, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Hi All!

The end of the school year is a busy time... I've been a bit swamped, but I 
have an urgent and important question for which I hope some PDMLers might 
have some good suggestions.


My kid's school teacher asked to put together photos (mine and teachers') so 
that they will given on a CD to each kid in the class.
(I've been taking a lot of photos at various school events throughout the 
year.)
So, I am thinking how to structure that CD. So, all your practical 
suggestions are welcome.


Here is the way I am thinking about it right now:
1. The simplest thing would be just to have a bunch of folders that are 
titled as date+event name.


Since it should be easy for the end-users (parents, and not all of them a 
computer-comfortable or even computer-literate), I am thinking if it would be 
better to build also simple HTML galleries (in addition to just photos).
Personally, as a customer, I'd prefer just a simple set of folders with 
JPEGs to be viewed by a "standard" (or customer-installed) photo viewer, but 
I am a bit more computer-literate... What do you think?


2. I can set "autorun.inf" for Windows to start something... (e.g. the main 
index.htm file if I were to create web-galleries)

While there are ways to do the same for Mac, e.g. by following this scenario:
http://jordan.broughs.net/archives/2008/03/creating-cross-platform-windows-and-mac-installer-cds
I don't have an easy access to a Mac, so, it is not an option for me...
So, most likely, even if I were to do that for Windows, nothing special will 
be done for a Mac.



3. From what I understand, starting from OS-X, a joliet-format CD is not a 
problem for a Mac anymore (i.e. I don't need to worry about building a 
"hybrid"-format CD).
But I wonder, with a modern Mac, what happens when you insert a CD with a set 
of folders containing JPEGs into a Mac: will it offer to open a photo viewer 
(if nothing is configured to happen as discussed in #2 above)?


4. I assume some of you may have provided your customers with a CD of 
photographs. What type of format did you do in that case? Anything beyond 
just a simple set of JPEGs?


Thank you,

Igor




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Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD

[Stanley Halpin]

> On May 17, 2017, at 8:55 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 17, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All!...
>> But I wonder, with a modern Mac, what happens when you insert a CD with a 
>> set of folders containing JPEGs into a Mac: will it offer to open a photo 
>> viewer (if nothing is configured to happen as discussed in #2 above)?
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
> I believe it will totally depend on how the user preferences are set. On my 
> iMac, a CD with folders of photos is just like any other set of folders. 
> If/when I double-click on an actual image file (not a folder or sub-folder), 
> then Something will rise up to digest that file and render it in all its 
> glory. It might be Preview, it might be Photos, it might be Elements or it 
> might be Lightroom. etc. All depends on Preferences. Most likely it will not 
> be an app that will smoothly allow for right-arrow/left-arrow movement from 
> image to image. A lot of open file, view, close file, and repeat…
> 
> If it were me, I would set up a gallery within my poorly organized overloaded 
> Zenfolio-based photo gallery. I do that with family reunion photos for 
> example. With a direct link to that specific gallery and easy navigation once 
> there it simplifies the access for less literate viewers. Set the parameters 
> to allow download of original images and tell the parents to go wild. (And 
> maybe provide an email address i anyone needs Help?) If there is concern 
> about “public” posting of kids’ photos, password access to that gallery.
> 
> Many similar options but Zenfolio is the one I know. And a one-year 
> less-than-deluxe membership would probably be less than the cost of a bunch 
> of CDs. 
> 
> Another option is to build and export your gallery from Lightroom as an 
> HTML-coded website which you can then host wherever.
> 
> If you do stick with the CD solution, however you structure the folders and 
> files (and any Mac-compatible .exe gadget), if you want to send me a link or 
> actual content (via dropbox for example) I can do a quick look at how it will 
> perform under OS-X.
> 
> stan
> — 

One other thought. Aren’t there free slide show viewers? For both Mac and 
Windows? Set up one of each with pointers to the root of your image folder 
structure, copy and include on the CD... 


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Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD

[Stanley Halpin]

> On May 17, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All!...
> But I wonder, with a modern Mac, what happens when you insert a CD with a set 
> of folders containing JPEGs into a Mac: will it offer to open a photo viewer 
> (if nothing is configured to happen as discussed in #2 above)?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Igor
> 
I believe it will totally depend on how the user preferences are set. On my 
iMac, a CD with folders of photos is just like any other set of folders. 
If/when I double-click on an actual image file (not a folder or sub-folder), 
then Something will rise up to digest that file and render it in all its glory. 
It might be Preview, it might be Photos, it might be Elements or it might be 
Lightroom. etc. All depends on Preferences. Most likely it will not be an app 
that will smoothly allow for right-arrow/left-arrow movement from image to 
image. A lot of open file, view, close file, and repeat…

If it were me, I would set up a gallery within my poorly organized overloaded 
Zenfolio-based photo gallery. I do that with family reunion photos for example. 
With a direct link to that specific gallery and easy navigation once there it 
simplifies the access for less literate viewers. Set the parameters to allow 
download of original images and tell the parents to go wild. (And maybe provide 
an email address i anyone needs Help?) If there is concern about “public” 
posting of kids’ photos, password access to that gallery.

Many similar options but Zenfolio is the one I know. And a one-year 
less-than-deluxe membership would probably be less than the cost of a bunch of 
CDs. 

Another option is to build and export your gallery from Lightroom as an 
HTML-coded website which you can then host wherever.

If you do stick with the CD solution, however you structure the folders and 
files (and any Mac-compatible .exe gadget), if you want to send me a link or 
actual content (via dropbox for example) I can do a quick look at how it will 
perform under OS-X.

stan
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Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD

[John]

Why does it need to be installed? Wouldn't just a CD with folders to 
organize the photos suffice?


Something like:

Academics
   First Grade
   Ms Smith's Class
   Ms Jone's Class
   Second Grade
   Ms Tompkins' Class
   Mr Rogers' Class

Athletics
   Baseball
   Football
   Soccer
   Track and Field

Clubs and Organizations
   Art Club
   Drama Club
   Science Club

Faculty and Staff
   Administration
   Custodians
   Food Service
   Teachers

Yada, Yada, Yada



On 5/17/2017 14:02, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Hi All!

The end of the school year is a busy time... I've been a bit swamped,
but I have an urgent and important question for which I hope some
PDMLers might have some good suggestions.

My kid's school teacher asked to put together photos (mine and
teachers') so that they will given on a CD to each kid in the class.
(I've been taking a lot of photos at various school events throughout
the year.)
So, I am thinking how to structure that CD. So, all your practical
suggestions are welcome.

Here is the way I am thinking about it right now:
1. The simplest thing would be just to have a bunch of folders that are
titled as date+event name.

Since it should be easy for the end-users (parents, and not all of them
a computer-comfortable or even computer-literate), I am thinking if it
would be better to build also simple HTML galleries (in addition to just
photos).
 Personally, as a customer, I'd prefer just a simple set of folders with
JPEGs to be viewed by a "standard" (or customer-installed) photo viewer,
but I am a bit more computer-literate... What do you think?

2. I can set "autorun.inf" for Windows to start something... (e.g. the
main index.htm file if I were to create web-galleries)
While there are ways to do the same for Mac, e.g. by following this
scenario:
http://jordan.broughs.net/archives/2008/03/creating-cross-platform-windows-and-mac-installer-cds

I don't have an easy access to a Mac, so, it is not an option for me...
So, most likely, even if I were to do that for Windows, nothing special
will be done for a Mac.


3. From what I understand, starting from OS-X, a joliet-format CD is not
a problem for a Mac anymore (i.e. I don't need to worry about building a
"hybrid"-format CD).
But I wonder, with a modern Mac, what happens when you insert a CD with
a set of folders containing JPEGs into a Mac: will it offer to open a
photo viewer (if nothing is configured to happen as discussed in #2 above)?

4. I assume some of you may have provided your customers with a CD of
photographs. What type of format did you do in that case? Anything
beyond just a simple set of JPEGs?

Thank you,

Igor




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Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD

[Boris Liberman]

Igor, the last time I gave out CDs (it were actually DVDs) was
gazillion years ago. It wasn't even the 6th grade of my older
daughter, while she's finishing 10th grade now.

I have started with DropBox account where I would put 20x30 cm
printables and share the link to the folder of each event via e-mail.

The problem with DropBox was that it had too small a size, so I went
down the Google route. Nowadays, I'm uploading 20x30 cm printables to
Google Drive (15 GB free out of the box, so to say, no pun here) and
sharing the links from my cell phone to the WhatsApp group. This is
for my younger daughter who's now finishing 3rd grade in school. This
really works like a charm.

I remember having most annoying problem with the DVDs/CDs - each
parent wants specific sub-set of photos, where their own kid shows.
So, I've spent lots of time doing all kinds of stuff. Say, there were
few parents who asked me to please give them photos of just their kid
for bat-mitzvah/bar-mitzvah albums. I obliged, but it was laborious.

With things such as DropBox or Google Drive - each one just gets to
easily page through all the pics and download whatever they want - no
involvement from me.

Boris


On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
> Hi All!
>
> The end of the school year is a busy time... I've been a bit swamped, but I
> have an urgent and important question for which I hope some PDMLers might
> have some good suggestions.
>
> My kid's school teacher asked to put together photos (mine and teachers') so
> that they will given on a CD to each kid in the class.
> (I've been taking a lot of photos at various school events throughout the
> year.)
> So, I am thinking how to structure that CD. So, all your practical
> suggestions are welcome.
>
> Here is the way I am thinking about it right now:
> 1. The simplest thing would be just to have a bunch of folders that are
> titled as date+event name.
>
> Since it should be easy for the end-users (parents, and not all of them a
> computer-comfortable or even computer-literate), I am thinking if it would
> be better to build also simple HTML galleries (in addition to just photos).
>  Personally, as a customer, I'd prefer just a simple set of folders with
> JPEGs to be viewed by a "standard" (or customer-installed) photo viewer, but
> I am a bit more computer-literate... What do you think?
>
> 2. I can set "autorun.inf" for Windows to start something... (e.g. the main
> index.htm file if I were to create web-galleries)
> While there are ways to do the same for Mac, e.g. by following this
> scenario:
> http://jordan.broughs.net/archives/2008/03/creating-cross-platform-windows-and-mac-installer-cds
> I don't have an easy access to a Mac, so, it is not an option for me...
> So, most likely, even if I were to do that for Windows, nothing special will
> be done for a Mac.
>
>
> 3. From what I understand, starting from OS-X, a joliet-format CD is not a
> problem for a Mac anymore (i.e. I don't need to worry about building a
> "hybrid"-format CD).
> But I wonder, with a modern Mac, what happens when you insert a CD with a
> set of folders containing JPEGs into a Mac: will it offer to open a photo
> viewer (if nothing is configured to happen as discussed in #2 above)?
>
> 4. I assume some of you may have provided your customers with a CD of
> photographs. What type of format did you do in that case? Anything beyond
> just a simple set of JPEGs?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Igor
>
>
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