Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Well - I've been playing for an hour or so each day on a couple of Upnp devices and airplay using an old windows 10 PC runnng LMS 8.3.0 and the dev bridges, and all is well :cool: - NICHOLAS- RPi4 / piCorePlayer v8.1.0 /Logitech Media Server Version: 8.3.0/ Hifiberry Digi+ 3 Chromecast (2 mini x1 Chromecast Audio) 2 UPNP devices also use a Gramofon off platform The Groundsman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70305 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
manx wrote: > Thank you Philippe (and all the other developers of course) for sharing > your hard work, time and expertise so freely. It's much appreciated. > > I'm still using your bridge development repository - when you say you'd > like people to test those releases are you mostly interested in bug > reports or would "this version has no issues so far with such and such > server and player setup" kind of feedback be helpful?! Thanks - Both feedbacks are helpful (with context) from a technical and motivational point of view ;) LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Thank you Philippe (and all the other developers of course) for sharing your hard work, time and expertise so freely. It's much appreciated. I'm still using your bridge development repository - when you say you'd like people to test those releases are you mostly interested in bug reports or would "this version has no issues so far with such and such server and player setup" kind of feedback be helpful?! manx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70875 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Despite my frustration with a disappearing DLNA player due to the last round of updates, which is working fine now, I do understand the difficulties that software engineering poses on occasion. Thanks for your efforts. Some friends, associates and I run a Facebook group dedicated to music streaming technologies and you're all welcome to join us: https://facebook.com/groups/hifiaudiostreaming/ artatgray's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73037 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Seconded once more! Thank you Philippe, much obliged Tigo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72623 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
MichaelPr wrote: > Philippe, let me also say just two words.. > THANK YOU! *Seconded!* juanefe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Philippe, let me also say just two words.. THANK YOU! lms: 8.3.1 - 1667914563 on rpi4/ raspbian buster 10 points to musiclibrary on qnap ts212 (nfs) 1x duet - cntrl-fw: 8.0.1-r16907/ receiver-fw: 77 2x sb radio - fw: 8.0.1-r16907 1x squeezebox boom - fw 57 1x transporter - fw: 87 rpi 2b - pcp 8.0.1/ squeezelite v1.9.9-1391-pcp softsqueeze 3.9.2 on win 10 / squeezeplay 8.0.1r1343 on win 10 squeeze player 1.3.21 on s22/android 13.0.0 controller: android phone - squeezer 2.3.0/ material skin 3.0.1 MichaelPr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68465 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Thanks to all of you for your kind words - I really do appreciate. That weekend was really bad and I obviously grossly underestimated the risk of the changes I introduced. I should know better but sometimes you get sloppy and a slap on the hand is a good reminder :) Hopefully this should return to normal soon LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Philippe, the entire LMS community owes you a debt of gratitude (in lieu of cash ;)) for all the time and effort you have contributed in keeping this great open source experiment not only alive but thriving. And it's not just the multitude of useful plugins that we use every day, or even the numerous LMS bug fixes and enhancements seen only by those of us who read git commit logs for relaxation --- it's also the helpfulness and patience you display with users and fellow developers alike here on the forums. You are a consummate professional and I, for one, am thankful you are here. Sam SamY's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63495 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Philippe, First, I want to thank you for all your hard work on developing products that support the LMS/squeezebox system. Of course, it is not just you but there are many others that volunteer their own time to contribute. You have every right to be annoyed when someone complains in the manner you have described. This community will respond in a polite manner to a question that has been asked before without a snarky response of did you search for x. I am amazed how quickly, and the enormous effort people, will take to help a person resolve a problem that might be unique to that persons equipment and set-up. All I can say is, there are a lot of people on this forum that truly appreciate your effort, so please do not let the rude minority get to you. :) Paul P Nelson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Philippe, thanks so much for your hard work on these bridges, they are a huge part of what makes LMS such great software. I experienced issues with the re-factored plugins, but didn't post details out of respect for your volunteered time. It occurs to me now that simply pasting some logs and a description of my issue would have been helpful. In the future I'll make sure to provide you with that extra data point. Do you have an interact-etransfer/Paypal I can buy you a coffee with? mightaswell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71951 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Maybe some of these people that feel frustrated should take a stab at writing their own plug-ins. Just a thought. :cool: kwolter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72834 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
LMS is such an excellent thing. I am particularly in awe of the bridges and spotty. I've been waiting with interest for the bridge refactoring. It all worked fine for me pretty much immediately. So thank you very much indeed. - NICHOLAS- RPi4 / piCorePlayer v8.1.0 /Logitech Media Server Version: 8.3.0/ Hifiberry Digi+ 3 Chromecast (2 mini x1 Chromecast Audio) 2 UPNP devices also use a Gramofon off platform The Groundsman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70305 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Gobuleberbu wrote: > Philippe, you are a man of honour and dedication. Those are qualities > of a great man. > > Thank you for what you are doing (and props to all the contributors!). > I'll have more time during the holiday season - I'll take some time to > test your upgraded plugin. :) Likewise from Toronto - I appreciate all that Phillippe and many others are doing to update and keep relevant this whole complicated software(s) and plug ins relevant and still going on so many different set ups and configurations. I seem to have lost the ability to connect via one of my Mac Laptops recently but my iphone, my basement windows $125 computer and two kindle fires all seem to work with PcP and LMS. Hurrah. Cheers to one and all - Julian Operajulian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Philippe, you are a man of honour and dedication. Those are qualities of a great man. Thank you for what you are doing (and props to all the contributors!). I'll have more time during the holiday season - I'll take some time to test your upgraded plugin. :) Gobuleberbu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Redrum wrote: > Thank you Philippe (along with many others) for everything you do. > > The point about the dev repository is spot on. We users are needed for > use case testing, yet our expectations should not be that every dev > release works flawlessly. > > If you contrast the work that is done here with a product (as @sle > mentioned - sonos), the product has gone through extensive, systematic > use case testing by many many people and automated test systems. So, you > can expect more, but still bugs are uncovered. > > The last thing I wanted to add (while I have the floor :)) is that I > have found people here on the forum to be very cordial and respectful, > even when I ask/say something dumb. They don't even say "That's dumb" :) > People go out of their way to not only help, but to actually build a > test system to try to replicate what the poster is seeing. > > Bravo. > JimI would normally test Dev updates but this time although I installed them I didn't test them as I had gone back to pCP and Squeezelite [emoji2357]. It wasn't till I saw reports of issues that I put my mpd SD card back in the Pi. Like Philippe I assumed the absence of any reports during the Dev period meant it was OK. I wonder how many actively tried the Dev versions. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
I concur with all of the above. I think it is fair to say that the uPnP/DLNA Bridge is unique and many people simply don't realise what a buggers muddle the underlying protocol is and the multitude of different devices and implementations that Philippe has to code for. Personally I try to stay clear as much as possible even though I have a number of devices that could be made to work with LMS via the bridge. It strikes me that even though Philippe has coded for "known working hardware" profiles there are relatively few devices in the list and that is down to us users for not sending them in! Philippe cannot be expected to own every conceivable piece of uPnP hardware! We as a user group should take note of what has happened recently and make sure we assist by either volunteering dev status or by providing proper details of our working systems with a note stating which version of the bridge they work against. Jim https://jukeradio.double6.net VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Radio *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
tw99 wrote: > I'm very grateful for your work, and it definitely sounds like a good > idea that you've updated and modernised some of your code, so I guess > some disruption is to be expected, especially given the large variety of > devices that it needs to work with. > > What are your feelings about making the source for the helper code > public at some point ? I'm just wondering if it would be useful at busy > times like this if others were able to assist directly. Thanks - everything is fully open source, including all build scripts, on GitHub, search philippe44 LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Thank you Philippe (along with many others) for everything you do. The point about the dev repository is spot on. We users are needed for use case testing, yet our expectations should not be that every dev release works flawlessly. If you contrast the work that is done here with a product (as @sle mentioned - sonos), the product has gone through extensive, systematic use case testing by many many people and automated test systems. So, you can expect more, but still bugs are uncovered. The last thing I wanted to add (while I have the floor :)) is that I have found people here on the forum to be very cordial and respectful, even when I ask/say something dumb. They don't even say "That's dumb" :) People go out of their way to not only help, but to actually build a test system to try to replicate what the poster is seeing. Bravo. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Thanks Philippe, for your exemplary works with those very useful plugins. End users must understand the dedication and patience needed to write and maintain code, specially on a voluntary basis. Tête à FLAC 2 X SB Classic 2 X SB2 1 X SB Boom 2 X SB Touch 3 X SBRadio 1 X Transporter 1 X Duet + Remote 4 X Rpi+ Picoreplayer 2 X Chromecast 1 X Chromecast Audio 1 X Atoll ST100 1 X Merging NADAC All devices connected via CeolBOX server aka The Musical Box Using OrangeSqueeze and Material Skin Plug-in to remote all my connected devices. mftech's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1586 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
I'm very grateful for your work, and it definitely sounds like a good idea that you've updated and modernised some of your code, so I guess some disruption is to be expected, especially given the large variety of devices that it needs to work with. What are your feelings about making the source for the helper code public at some point ? I'm just wondering if it would be useful at busy times like this if others were able to assist directly. tw99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51684 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Funny how some will forget that we (I include myself here) rely so much on individuals like you (and me to some extent, but I have a level of control there) on something that they consider, on one end critical enough to get mad when it's not working, and on the other end not critical enough to pay the full price for what they get. Go purchase a Sonos system and you might gain stability (*might*), but you will certainly lose on flexibility and features. Nothing is perfect. When we roll out new features in IT, we always have a roll back procedure. Everybody should have their personal roll back plan, especially when installing software written by enthusiasts that have no monetary compensation for the efforts they put in. LMS 7.9 - 1xRadio, 1xBoom, 5xDuet,3xTouch, 1 SB2. Sony PlayStation, Emby, Chromecast v1 and v2 and... 6x*::SqueezeAmp::, several other ESP32-Wrover boards with jumper wires flying around, some with ethernet*! sle118's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Well done. And I apologize for my griping. One word of what I hope is constructive advice. When I see a new iOS update or a major Windows update, I always wait some time and read a few articles and posts about bugs. But I've never done that with LMS upgrades (since 2010) including yours. I've never needed to; I just click on the link. And as I only visit the forum when I have a problem, I only discovered what was going on after Squeeze2Chrome had failed. Had I seen a notice that this upgrade was a major overhaul, I would probably have waited a little before installing. john greenwood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Thanks for all the work you've given. castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] A few words about bridges and my work in general
Excellent points. And thanks so much for all you do to make this software so flexible and useful. *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.3.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.3.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
