Re: [Silk] Our own Cory Doctorow features in this story

[José María Mateos via Silklist]

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 05:19:54AM +, Venkat Mangudi - Silk via Silklist 
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How do you guys protect yourself from getting scammed? Has anyone else 
on our list been scammed? I’d love to hear about it.


I haven't had serious attempts, but everybody's threshold is different. 
In my case, I'm mostly concerned about my parents. Though they try (my 
mother at least), they are not technologically savvy and from time to 
time they've clicked on links they shouldn't. My father stopped short of 
sending his banking data to "the post office" because he received a 
phishing link at the time he was also waiting a parcel from me when I 
was living in Canada (he's in Spain) and he really thought he needed to 
pay customs that way.


Madness like this doesn't help either 
https://www.troyhunt.com/thanks-fedex-this-is-why-we-keep-getting-phished/


After that, I looked for solutions for them and I found dns0.eu, which 
is a European NGO founded by the same guys that started Quad9 and offers 
anti-malware public DNS servers. I've set up zero.dns0.eu (the most 
restrictive kind) on their phones, computers and home router and I'm 
able to sleep a bit better at night.


I use the less-restrictive version of that, just in case; the "hardcore" 
version interfere with some systems at work. One never knows when he's 
going to be too trustworthy.


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Re: [Silk] Our own Cory Doctorow features in this story

[Venkatesh H R via Silklist]

Oops that was meant to be “nail us” not “jail us”



On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 08:59, Venkatesh H R  wrote:

> I guess the point of that piece is that we are all going to get had at
> some point. Intelligence and vigilance can protect us but one day someone
> is going to jail us at a time of vulnerability…
>
> From that perspective, I have an additional Q. What is the basic one
> should do? I’m assuming that one idea is to ensure most of our cash isn’t
> in the account we use on a regular basis. Related Q - does it make sense to
> put a money into an account without internet or phone banking?
>
>
> H R Venkatesh
> Director, Training and Research, BOOM 
> mediabuddhi.substack.com
> Twitter: @hrvenkatesh
>
>
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 06:20, Venkat Mangudi - Silk via Silklist <
> silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote:
>
>> Well, whether it is phishing, SMSishing or spams… everything is getting
>> better by the day.
>>
>> How do you guys protect yourself from getting scammed? Has anyone else on
>> our list been scammed? I’d love to hear about it.
>>
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/21/style/scams-identity-theft.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share=articleShare
>>
>> —Cheers,
>> Venkat
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Re: [Silk] Our own Cory Doctorow features in this story

[Venkatesh H R via Silklist]

I guess the point of that piece is that we are all going to get had at some
point. Intelligence and vigilance can protect us but one day someone is
going to jail us at a time of vulnerability…

>From that perspective, I have an additional Q. What is the basic one should
do? I’m assuming that one idea is to ensure most of our cash isn’t in the
account we use on a regular basis. Related Q - does it make sense to put a
money into an account without internet or phone banking?


H R Venkatesh
Director, Training and Research, BOOM 
mediabuddhi.substack.com
Twitter: @hrvenkatesh


On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 06:20, Venkat Mangudi - Silk via Silklist <
silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote:

> Well, whether it is phishing, SMSishing or spams… everything is getting
> better by the day.
>
> How do you guys protect yourself from getting scammed? Has anyone else on
> our list been scammed? I’d love to hear about it.
>
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/21/style/scams-identity-theft.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share=articleShare
>
> —Cheers,
> Venkat
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Re: [Silk] Our own Cory Doctorow features in this story

[Bruce Metcalf via Silklist]

On 4/22/24 09:19, Venkat Mangudi - Silk via Silklist wrote:

Well, whether it is phishing, SMSishing or spams… everything is getting 
better by the day.


How do you guys protect yourself from getting scammed? Has anyone else 
on our list been scammed? I’d love to hear about it.



I got nailed a year or two ago. A member of the organization I run asked 
me to PayPal $500 to someone in the Philippines to buy something, and 
they would only take PayPal. The site sold ancient coins, and that's the 
sort of thing this member was interested in, so it sounded very good.


I asked some questions, using the email address in our files, and got 
responses that mentioned items in our recent newsletter and referring to 
events from decades ago we both knew about, and given that relationship, 
I made the payment.


Obviously, I never got his covering check, and instead was asked to 
PayPal a larger amount to some individual for no reason. I balked, said 
I'd wait for his first check to clear, and never heard back.


Pretty clearly, our member had his email hacked, and a diligent 
fraudster did his homework reading through old emails to convince me. 
I'm pretty ashamed, but I have to respect the amount of effort they put in.


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Re: [Silk] Our own Cory Doctorow features in this story

[Suresh Ramasubramanian via Silklist]

It is fun when you say you know it’s a scam

You get to hear some choice Hindi then

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The most critical thing is to buy time. I got a very convincing call from a guy 
saying my insurance has lapsed and I need to pay Rs 50,000 to revive it. The 
language that the guy spoke indicated that he has worked for a few years in the 
industry. I refused to pay immediately online and asked for the details. After 
the call, I immediately checked with the insurance company call center and they 
said no such policy number exists and confirmed that this is a scam that is 
going around.

Another caller said, since I recently purchased a car, I will get two hotel 
nights free if I come for a presentation that evening. I said I will check with 
my wife and get back. I checked online for the reviews of this company and 
those were pretty nasty. Blocked the number.

Just buy time. Never respond immediately.

Venky

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 10:50 AM Venkat Mangudi - Silk via Silklist 
mailto:silklist@lists.digeratus.in>> wrote:
Well, whether it is phishing, SMSishing or spams… everything is getting better 
by the day.

How do you guys protect yourself from getting scammed? Has anyone else on our 
list been scammed? I’d love to hear about it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/21/style/scams-identity-theft.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share=articleShare

—Cheers,
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Re: [Silk] Our own Cory Doctorow features in this story

[Ameya Nagarajan via Silklist]

Yeah, I just ask for more information and some time.
I got a call "from customs" saying there was a parcel stuck at customs and
I would be fined 1 lakh or something, and they "transferred the call to a
FedEx guy" and I said, ok give me the tracking number so I can look it up
and get back to you. Immediately hung up.

They try to hurry you, which is the point of the scam, to make you rush
into things.

Cordially,
Ameya Nagarajan
(she/her)







On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 11:47, Venkatesh Hariharan via Silklist <
silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote:

> The most critical thing is to buy time. I got a very convincing call from
> a guy saying my insurance has lapsed and I need to pay Rs 50,000 to revive
> it. The language that the guy spoke indicated that he has worked for a few
> years in the industry. I refused to pay immediately online and asked for
> the details. After the call, I immediately checked with the insurance
> company call center and they said no such policy number exists and
> confirmed that this is a scam that is going around.
>
> Another caller said, since I recently purchased a car, I will get two
> hotel nights free if I come for a presentation that evening. I said I will
> check with my wife and get back. I checked online for the reviews of this
> company and those were pretty nasty. Blocked the number.
>
> Just buy time. Never respond immediately.
>
> Venky
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 10:50 AM Venkat Mangudi - Silk via Silklist <
> silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote:
>
>> Well, whether it is phishing, SMSishing or spams… everything is getting
>> better by the day.
>>
>> How do you guys protect yourself from getting scammed? Has anyone else on
>> our list been scammed? I’d love to hear about it.
>>
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/21/style/scams-identity-theft.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share=articleShare
>>
>> —Cheers,
>> Venkat
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Re: [Silk] Our own Cory Doctorow features in this story

[Venkatesh Hariharan via Silklist]

The most critical thing is to buy time. I got a very convincing call from a
guy saying my insurance has lapsed and I need to pay Rs 50,000 to revive
it. The language that the guy spoke indicated that he has worked for a few
years in the industry. I refused to pay immediately online and asked for
the details. After the call, I immediately checked with the insurance
company call center and they said no such policy number exists and
confirmed that this is a scam that is going around.

Another caller said, since I recently purchased a car, I will get two hotel
nights free if I come for a presentation that evening. I said I will check
with my wife and get back. I checked online for the reviews of this company
and those were pretty nasty. Blocked the number.

Just buy time. Never respond immediately.

Venky

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 10:50 AM Venkat Mangudi - Silk via Silklist <
silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote:

> Well, whether it is phishing, SMSishing or spams… everything is getting
> better by the day.
>
> How do you guys protect yourself from getting scammed? Has anyone else on
> our list been scammed? I’d love to hear about it.
>
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/21/style/scams-identity-theft.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share=articleShare
>
> —Cheers,
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