[sisuite-users] System Configurator hang-ups

2007-03-27 Thread Simon Ruiz
I think I know what the problem is, but I'm not sure how to compensate for it.
 
Here's the symptom:
 
So, I created USB autoinstall disks yesterday and imaged a classroom of Dell 
170Ls. With visions of them all working this morning, I left. This morning was 
not so rosy. I had not re-installed system configurator with -prefix=/USR on 
that particular golden client yet, so it bombed at that point. Having already 
faced this problem before, the first thing I did was reinstall system 
configurator with the correct configuration switch, and then I ran a test 
autoinstall on a single workstation, which went quite quickly, and where it had 
before bombed out from a lack of system configurator it spat out this:
 
end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
 
etc.
 
Perplexed, I attempted to autoinstall on another test machine, a Dell 210L, and 
it took the time to image itself, and flew right past the part where these 
errors kept occuring, and finished the imaging process with no problem, while 
the 170L kept spitting out these error lines.
 
My hunch is that it's spitting these out because the golden client has a CD 
drive and the machines to be imaged do not, and it just won't give up on it's 
hunt. Might there be a way to have system configurator give up sooner? or just 
not worry about the CD drive at all?
 
Ah, I just checked again, and it seems that eventually, over a half an hour 
later, it does give up and get on with it.
 
Any ideas?
 
I hope you're all having a great day!
 
Simón

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Re: [sisuite-users] System Configurator hang-ups

2007-03-27 Thread Drew Weaver
Simon,

FD0 is a floppy disk or sometimes can be mapped to a USB key.

-Drew
XLHost.com

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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:49 AM
To: sisuite-users
Subject: [sisuite-users] System Configurator hang-ups

I think I know what the problem is, but I'm not sure how to compensate for it.
 
Here's the symptom:
 
So, I created USB autoinstall disks yesterday and imaged a classroom of Dell 
170Ls. With visions of them all working this morning, I left. This morning was 
not so rosy. I had not re-installed system configurator with -prefix=/USR on 
that particular golden client yet, so it bombed at that point. Having already 
faced this problem before, the first thing I did was reinstall system 
configurator with the correct configuration switch, and then I ran a test 
autoinstall on a single workstation, which went quite quickly, and where it had 
before bombed out from a lack of system configurator it spat out this:
 
end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
 
etc.
 
Perplexed, I attempted to autoinstall on another test machine, a Dell 210L, and 
it took the time to image itself, and flew right past the part where these 
errors kept occuring, and finished the imaging process with no problem, while 
the 170L kept spitting out these error lines.
 
My hunch is that it's spitting these out because the golden client has a CD 
drive and the machines to be imaged do not, and it just won't give up on it's 
hunt. Might there be a way to have system configurator give up sooner? or just 
not worry about the CD drive at all?
 
Ah, I just checked again, and it seems that eventually, over a half an hour 
later, it does give up and get on with it.
 
Any ideas?
 
I hope you're all having a great day!
 
Simón

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Re: [sisuite-users] System Configurator hang-ups

2007-03-27 Thread Drew Weaver
There may be a setting in the bios which lets you select how the USB key is 
mounted (either floppy or virtual hard disk) I wouldn't know why you're having 
this problem really, it seems like you could boot all of these boxes over the 
LAN and install simultaneously. That's what we do here.

Thanks,
-Drew

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Subject: Re: [sisuite-users] System Configurator hang-ups

Well, I did use a usb key to start the auto-install process, but pulled it out 
as soon as the initrd was loaded.
 
This same proceedure on the 210Ls does not cause the same problem. In fact, I 
notice it seems to map fd0 and hd0 even though the only two drives it has 
mounted are the hard disk and a CD drive. The 170Ls do not have CD drives.
 
This is why I was under the suspicion that the CD drive has something to do 
with it.
 
It would sort of ruin the niceness of being able to pull the USB key out and 
move on to the next machine if I had to leave the USB key plugged in during the 
whole autoinstall process...
 
Thanks for your reply!
 
Simón



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Simon,

FD0 is a floppy disk or sometimes can be mapped to a USB key.

-Drew
XLHost.com


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Re: [sisuite-users] System Configurator hang-ups

2007-03-27 Thread Simon Ruiz
Well, I don't control the network here, I can't make any changes to the DHCP 
server, so network booting is not possible AFAIK, and since the 170Ls don't 
have CD drives, USB keys are my only choice.
 
Hmmm, looking in the BIOS of the 170Ls, I'm remembering I had to turn on the 
floppy drive in the BIOS so they could recognize the USB floppy drives we used 
back when we imaged these computers using Norton Ghost.
 
Sounds promising, I'm going to turn that off and try again...
 
Success!
 
Thanks for the pointer!
 
Simón



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There may be a setting in the bios which lets you select how the USB key is 
mounted (either floppy or virtual hard disk) I wouldn't know why you're having 
this problem really, it seems like you could boot all of these boxes over the 
LAN and install simultaneously. That's what we do here.

Thanks,
-Drew


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Re: [sisuite-users] Cool!

2007-03-27 Thread Charles A. Taylor

We've been using SIS for a while now (in fact, I'm sure we need to  
update) and are very happy with it.   So I feel a little funny asking  
this question since it seems like a no-brainer and we should already  
know the answer.   Nonetheless, the fact remains that we have not  
figured out how to have the nodes reboot themselves after they have  
been successfully imaged.   Instead, we must go in and see that they  
are saying I've been done for xxx seconds/minutes. , and then  
reboot or power-cycle them.   I know that we tried at one point to  
overcome this problem and eventually just gave up.   Yet, it seems so  
fundamental that I know we are doing something wrong.

What is the secret to getting the nodes to just reboot themselves  
when they are done so that they come up ready to go after being  
imaged without manual intervention?

Thanks,

Charlie Taylor
UF HPC Center
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On Mar 16, 2007, at 11:45 AM, Andrea Righi wrote:

 Simon Ruiz wrote:
 So, the classroom imaged alright overnight. It seems like the server
 ran out of memory and had to kill a few processes during the course
 of the imaging process, but every workstation seemed to image fine.
 The beeping classroom was rather amusing when I came in.

 Might this locking up of the server be alleviated by popping in some
 more memory? (it's only got 512 right now, I believe, it's just
 exactly the same type of hardware as the workstations, really) or
 will it simply eat up as much memory as it gets and still lock up?

 You should try to use the BitTorrent trasnport. It strongly reduces  
 the
 load on the image server and you should see a huge improvement in the
 total time of deployment... obviously only if you'll have to reimage
 your clients...


 Other than that, let me see...Ummm...ok, yeah, so when I do an
 si_updateclient, it seems to wipe out every change I make during the
 autoconfig script that first time, EXCEPT for the hostname, which
 keeps the workstation from realizing it needs to run the autoconfig
 script again. I can change it to test the contents of /etc/hosts/
 instead of the $HOSTNAME variable, though I suppose I should really
 figure out how all the systemimager scripts work and see if maybe
 they would help me accomplish my goals in an easier way.

 Also, is there any way to trigger an autoinstall on the workstation
 and pass it the imagename? trying to do si_updateclient with both
 --autoinstall and --image doesn't seem to work...


 I've introduced, only in the trunk for now, the new command
 si_pushoverrides. This implements a new different approach to  
 distribute
 files to the clients.

 Theoretically we can define 3 different levels of files distribution,
 ordered from the most dangerous to the safest:

 1) imaging the nodes (a complete re-installation from scratch)
 2) reset the nodes to a default known installation (via  
 si_updateclient)
 3) distribute files (typically configuration files) to customize a
 default installation (via si_pushoverrides)

 Obviously with the first approach you need to completely stop the
 production in your machines during the deployment. Typically you  
 should
 use this method only at the beginning of your cluster / servers
 production or when you strongly do changes on the distributions that
 you're using in your clients.

 The second approach can be used to reset the image to a known  
 state. The
 command si_updateclient, in fact, performs a re-sync of the whole  
 client
 filesystem (except some customizable exclusions, see
 /etc/systemimager/updateclient.local.exclude). In this case you must
 evaluate if this process is dangerous enough for your applications,
 because you can lose some of your customizations and you could change
 something that you don't expect (remember that the update is done  
 in the
 whole image.. I repeat: it is done in the whole image! :-) In  
 general is
 the sysadmin that should evaluate if this operation can be dangerous
 enough to stop production or not...

 But, at the moment, there is not a totally safe way to distribute  
 files
 to the clients in SystemImager. This is the reason because I wanted to
 add the si_pushoverrides command. With this command you can use the
 overrides to push only a set of files from the image server to your
 clients (using rsync over SSH for the backend). In this way the whole
 image is not touched, but only the files you put in the defined
 overrides can be overwritten. Using a configuration file you can also
 define the topology of your clients. This can be very useful for
 clusters that have different subsets of nodes, like compute nodes,
 frontend nodes, I/O servers, etc based on the same image.

 I should say that si_pushoverrides is under development, but I'm  
 

Re: [sisuite-users] Cool!

2007-03-27 Thread Simon Ruiz
Hey,
 
Not too difficult to implement once you know about it, but took me some 
documentation trudging to figure out.
 
When GETTING the image, using si_getimage, just add the switch --post-install 
reboot at the end, and the autoinstall script will be updated accordingly.
 
HTH,
 
Simón



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Sent: Tue 3/27/2007 10:22 AM
To: sisuite-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Craig Prescott
Subject: Re: [sisuite-users] Cool!




We've been using SIS for a while now (in fact, I'm sure we need to 
update) and are very happy with it.   So I feel a little funny asking 
this question since it seems like a no-brainer and we should already 
know the answer.   Nonetheless, the fact remains that we have not 
figured out how to have the nodes reboot themselves after they have 
been successfully imaged.   Instead, we must go in and see that they 
are saying I've been done for xxx seconds/minutes. , and then 
reboot or power-cycle them.   I know that we tried at one point to 
overcome this problem and eventually just gave up.   Yet, it seems so 
fundamental that I know we are doing something wrong.

What is the secret to getting the nodes to just reboot themselves 
when they are done so that they come up ready to go after being 
imaged without manual intervention?

Thanks,

Charlie Taylor
UF HPC Center


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[sisuite-users] Bittorrent Not Quite Working...

2007-03-27 Thread Simon Ruiz
I've been following http://wiki.systemimager.org/index.php/HOWTO_Implement 
_a_simple_BitTorrent_and_USB_stick_imaging_scheme but when the clients boot 
from the USB key, they seem to get stuck when trying to grab an image through 
bittorrent, and remind me to turn the bittorrent server on.
 
I didn't install from rpms, but I compiled and installed 3.8.0 server_all and 
client_all on my server and golden clients respectively which, I've been 
under the impression, should install all the same stuff that would be installed 
by installing all the various packages. This may be the problem, if I'm wrong 
about this.
 
I've already been preparing clients and getting the images and deploying them 
via rsync, so I know I'm doing that part right.
 
I've configured /etc/systemimager/bittorrent.conf with the line 
BT_IMAGES=210,170,1300 so that all the images are allowed to be bittorrented, 
and added /etc/init.d/systemimager-server-bittorrent start to my 
/etc/rc.local right after the /etc/init.d/systemimager-server-rsyncd start 
line. A ps aux | grep systemimager shows me the I have /usr/bin/rsync 
--daemon --config=/etc/systemimager/rsyncd.conf and /usr/bin/python /usr/bin 
bttrack --port 6969 --dfile /tmp/dstate --logfile 
/var/log/systemimager/bittorrent-tracker.log running...
 
Alright, I think I'm going to try not invoking it on boot I'll comment that out 
and try to run it by hand to see what messages it gives...
 
ERROR: cannot find a valid binary to make torrents
failed.
 
So I search through the synaptic package manager and find libtorrent7, but 
installing it doesn't change anything, so I'm going to try installing 
libtorrent7-dev and recompiling systemimager to see if that might make a 
difference...
 
Well, I've learned that any settings changes that are made to 
/etc/systemimager/bittorrent.conf need to be re-made after re-installing 
systemimager. However, the same ERROR: cannot find a valid binary to make 
torrents. message pops up when I try to start the bittorrent server, so I'm 
guessing the libtorrent7 and libtorrent7-dev aren't of any use...
 
Any ideas?
 
I hope this finds you all doing well!
 
Simón

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Re: [sisuite-users] Bittorrent Not Quite Working...

2007-03-27 Thread Andrew M. Lyons
Simon Ruiz wrote:

 ERROR: cannot find a valid binary to make torrents
 failed.
 So I search through the synaptic package manager and find libtorrent7, but 
 installing it doesn't change anything, so I'm going to try installing 
 libtorrent7-dev and recompiling systemimager to see if that might make a 
 difference...

I think you may be looking for a package named bittorrent instead of 
libtorrent.  Also, you shouldnt have to recompile systemimager, i dont 
think...

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Re: [sisuite-users] Bittorrent Not Quite Working...

2007-03-27 Thread Simon Ruiz
Andrew,
 
Yeah, that's the first one I checked, and it was already installed, I believe 
by default. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy).
 
I thought maybe it was just a client, it is described as contains the tools 
which are used for console-only downloading. (Not to mention, it doesn't seem 
to be what systemimager is looking for.)
 
So I grasped at straws with the library and the dev library + a recompile.
 
Simón

 


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Sent: Tue 3/27/2007 11:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [sisuite-users] Bittorrent Not Quite Working...



Simon Ruiz wrote:

 ERROR: cannot find a valid binary to make torrents
 failed.
 So I search through the synaptic package manager and find libtorrent7, but 
 installing it doesn't change anything, so I'm going to try installing 
 libtorrent7-dev and recompiling systemimager to see if that might make a 
 difference...

I think you may be looking for a package named bittorrent instead of
libtorrent.  Also, you shouldnt have to recompile systemimager, i dont
think...

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[sisuite-users] Ack! Too many!

2007-03-27 Thread Simon Ruiz
So, I've learned that until I get SystemImager working with bittorrent, I can't 
image more than a classroom (32 workstations) at a time.
 
I just attempted to image two classrooms at a time, and even after running a 
sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and closing down the GUI on my server to clear out 
as much memory as I can, it keeps complaining:
 
[17189932.728000] Out of memory: Kill process 4431 (rsync) score 5980 and 
children.
[17189932.728000] Out of memory: Killed process 5247 (rsync).
 
And disconnecting from one of the workstations that are supposed to be imaging 
right now.
 
I'm going to have to show up early tomorrow morning and start the disconnected 
ones again.
 
Lesson learned.
 
Hope you're all having a great day!
 
Simón

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[sisuite-users] Installation is incomplete after transferring image from image server.

2007-03-27 Thread 노 성 후
Hello,
 
I have hard time with installing Image to a client.
 
I used systemimager v3.8.0 rpm and PXE.
 
During installation I get blank screen when 50% of my image was
transfered,
 
and it doesn't  reboot when it had enough time to finish the
installation.
 
I checked on the rsycnd logs and find out  scripts/imaging_complete
file is missing.
 
how can i get the scripts/imaging_complete file?
 
what do i have to do to coplete the installation successfully?
 
 
After Installation process(I waited enough time to finish up
installation) I reboot the client manually and
 
it was booted successfully but without swap partition which was
included in the golden client image.
 
Any ideas for what could be wrong?
 
 
 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] systemimager]# vi /var/log/systemimager/rsyncd
 
2007/03/21 19:19:24 [31648] rsync on boot/x86_64/standard/boel_binaries.
tar.gz from dell2.pspace.org (192.168.11.102)
2007/03/21 10:19:24 [31648] wrote 5815618 bytes  read 122 bytes  total
size 5814783
2007/03/21 19:19:26 [31649] rsync on scripts/ from dell2.pspace.org
(192.168.11.102)
2007/03/21 10:19:26 [31649] wrote 89386 bytes  read 251 bytes  total
size 88526
2007/03/21 19:20:57 [31656] rsync on dell2_image from dell2.pspace.org
(192.168.11.102)
2007/03/21 19:22:54 [31656] wrote 9240258 bytes  read 79 bytes  total
size 8824404182
2007/03/21 19:22:55 [31660] rsync on dell2_image/ from dell2.pspace.org
(192.168.11.102)
2007/03/21 19:33:46 [31660] wrote 8680820509 bytes  read 6872601 bytes
total size 8824404182
2007/03/21 19:33:53 [31668] rsync on overrides/dell2_image/ from
dell2.pspace.org (192.168.11.102)
2007/03/21 10:33:53 [31668] wrote 56 bytes  read 102 bytes  total size 0
2007/03/21 19:33:57 [31669] rsync on scripts/imaging_complete from
dell2.pspace.org (192.168.11.102)
2007/03/21 10:33:57 [31669] rsync: link_stat imaging_complete (in
scripts) failed: No such file or directory (2)
2007/03/21 10:33:57 [31669] rsync error: some files could not be
transferred (code 23) at main.c(442)
 
 
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Re: [sisuite-users] [Systemimager] Bittorrent Not Quite Working...

2007-03-27 Thread Bas van der Vlies

On Mar 27, 2007, at 7:02 PM, Simon Ruiz wrote:

 Andrew,

 Yeah, that's the first one I checked, and it was already installed,  
 I believe by default. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy).

 I thought maybe it was just a client, it is described as contains  
 the tools which are used for console-only downloading. (Not to  
 mention, it doesn't seem to be what systemimager is looking for.)

 So I grasped at straws with the library and the dev library + a  
 recompile.

 Simón


You must install version 4.0 or higher, the 3.4.2 version does not  
have the software to make torrents.

Regards

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