Re: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange
Im just curious here, I know i said id post and run on this topic but ive still been reading all the responses not to pick on *this* specific poster and ive sniped parts I dont wanna reply to. THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT THREAT TO OUR HOBBY!!! This is OUR HOBBY limited to ONLY gliders? or is it also including gas/electric rc planes. and is GOVERNMENT limited to ONLY federal government?? what about state and local, how do you define threat?? whole thread started by one poor soul mentioning he got interference whenever Bush was in town and was wondering if it was related to his visits. That's All!! true, but the subject isnt exactly specifically limited to the first post, look at any mailing list/news group/ private forum the topic is often a starter to a longer thread, useful or not. the OP probibly knew that when [s]he posted and you probibly knew that when you signed up. and if that itself is a suprise it happens on most threads from recievers to government threats to servos. I fly almost every day on the center grass median of Capital Ave. in Sacramento, a 1/2 block from the Capital and within easy reach of Arnold's smoking tent. I have had a few interested official looking people check me out, but besides that they have left me alone. lucky you. i tried flying in a grass field near a popular park(i had the private owners permission in writing) which in all the laws I could find was not illegal, and yet an hour in i had the police(well 1 unit anyway) diging thru his book to find the law that said i couldnt fly there, anyway i was not cited but told to leave and that was enough for me, i still have not found that law I too had entertained a small group of people the police officer sure didnt care about that :D btw that was with a dynaflite talon. This is probably illegal as hell, and if I was told to fly somewhere else I would. I seem to entertain a lot of state worker during their lunch break. So one has even thought that somehow I am a security risk. snip It may or may not be, but why dont you KNOW one way or another ??? This is a Soaring Exchange for gods sake, snip true but still not specifically limiting, at lest 1/2 of the responses had a tie to some kind of rc playing. even some of the NRA stuff had good points, even if you agree with or disagree with the NRA, they like us are a collection of people that wanna play with toys that some people are either uneducated about, or just scared of. two things that often drive government and laws, and they manage to deal with the government very well. --- No one gets too old to learn a new way of being stupid. Richard Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange
Would you right wing anti-American Wakos please find another forum to express you hatred and ignorance towards our country (USA) and its laws. I hear there are plenty of places to fly in China :-) Sincerely,Craig D Allen LSF111 Sorry Graig, This won't die because the future of our sport/hobby is too big a concern to people whose head isn't stuck in the sand. Incidentally, where come from it's the right wing who are the patriots while the left winger's are the anti-American commie wacko's who's goal is to tear down every thing this country was founded on. Let me guess, you're from California, aren't you? Dennis in NH (I'm a little tired of it myself, but my keyboard still has a delete button last time I checked.) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange
Well Dennis From What I see Your a George Bush fan! AND WRONG! JUST LIKE BUSH! JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU THEY ARE NOT TERRORIST! YOUSIR ARE LOST AND MISGUIDED!LIKE SAID PRESIDENT! while the left winger's are the anti-American commie wacko's who's goal is to tear down every thing this country was founded on. AND WHERE I COME FROM THERE NOT! KEEPYOUR VOMIT OFF MY LIST! AND CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR CAVE... HAVE A NICE DAY... AND IF YOU CAN, READ BEFORE YOU VOTE! IT MIGHT GIVE YOU A CLEAR PICTURE OF THE WORLD GEORGE BUSH LIVES IN FEAR! GLAD I'M NOT STUPID OR REPUBLICAN! YOU FRIEND. AL Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA Capshaw RealestateREALTOR- ASSOCIATECell 530-228-9445Fax 530-343-1715
Re: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange
All that is required for the triumph of tyranny is for good men to do nothing. Think about it. Cheers, Bill -- He who gives up freedom for security deserves neither. -Ben Franklin. Bill Johns Cheryl Greenstreet Colton, WA
Re: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange
Lighten up Al/Craig! -Original Message-From: Albert E. Wedworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:15 AMSubject: Re: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange Well Dennis From What I see Your a George Bush fan! AND WRONG! JUST LIKE BUSH! JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU THEY ARE NOT TERRORIST! YOUSIR ARE LOST AND MISGUIDED!LIKE SAID PRESIDENT! while the left winger's are the anti-American commie wacko's who's goal is to tear down every thing this country was founded on. AND WHERE I COME FROM THERE NOT! KEEPYOUR VOMIT OFF MY LIST! AND CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR CAVE... HAVE A NICE DAY... AND IF YOU CAN, READ BEFORE YOU VOTE! IT MIGHT GIVE YOU A CLEAR PICTURE OF THE WORLD GEORGE BUSH LIVES IN FEAR! GLAD I'M NOT STUPID OR REPUBLICAN! YOU FRIEND. AL Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA Capshaw RealestateREALTOR- ASSOCIATECell 530-228-9445Fax 530-343-1715
Re: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange
where (I) come from it's the right wing who are the patriots while the left winger's are the anti-American commie wacko's who's goal is to tear down every thing this country was founded on. And you, sir, do not know your history. In 1774, you would have been a Tory. Tory n. Syn. traditionalist, loyalist, cavalier, reactionary, extreme conservative. Fighting for freedom is not normally a conservative cause. Extreme conservatives are more interested in profit (see Cheney's explanation for why there is a vaccine shortage). Could he be right (no pun intended) - even though we know 36,000 (average) Americans die from flu every year? Who is looking out for the welfare of the American citizen? And who is looking out for big global corporations at the expense of our freedoms? I respond here because I have fought for and will continue to fight for our freedoms. Hackles up, Regis --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you right wing anti-American Wakoâs please find another forum to express you hatred and ignorance towards our country (USA) and itâs laws. I hear there are plenty of places to fly in China :-) Sincerely,Craig D Allen LSF111 Sorry Graig, This won't die because the future of our sport/hobby is too big a concern to people whose head isn't stuck in the sand. Incidentally, where come from it's the right wing who are the patriots while the left winger's are the anti-American commie wacko's who's goal is to tear down every thing this country was founded on. Let me guess, you're from California, aren't you? Dennis in NH (I'm a little tired of it myself, but my keyboard still has a delete button last time I checked.) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange
OK, now we're getting stupid. Can we at least discuss something slightly related to models rather than insulting everyone and their affiliation. Just about time to punch out of the list again as I can see things haven't changed in the years that I ignored it. At 11:15 AM 10/22/2004, Albert E. Wedworth wrote: Well Dennis From What I see Your a George Bush fan! AND WRONG! JUST LIKE BUSH! JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU THEY ARE NOT TERRORIST! YOU SIR ARE LOST AND MISGUIDED! LIKE SAID PRESIDENT! while the left winger's are the anti-American commie wacko's who's goal is to tear down every thing this country was founded on. AND WHERE I COME FROM THERE NOT! KEEP YOUR VOMIT OFF MY LIST! AND CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR CAVE... HAVE A NICE DAY... AND IF YOU CAN, READ BEFORE YOU VOTE! IT MIGHT GIVE YOU A CLEAR PICTURE OF THE WORLD GEORGE BUSH LIVES IN FEAR! GLAD I'M NOT STUPID OR REPUBLICAN! YOU FRIEND. AL Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA Capshaw Realestate REALTOR- ASSOCIATE Cell 530-228-9445 Fax 530-343-1715 Jim Prouty UAV Systems Engineer IntelliTech Microsystems, Inc. www.vectorp.com PH: (301) 860-0825 Fax: (301) 860-0823 Proprietary Information: This communication contains information proprietary to IntelliTech Microsystems, Inc. and is not to be disclosed or distributed beyond the intended recipients without written authorization. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this transmission.
[RCSE] keep politics off the exchange
Marta Zavala Wrote Lighten up Al/Craig! Me, Al and a lot of others sat back while this thread got beat to death for the last week. When we finally stand up to the outright ignorance that has been spouted, from non existing gun rights to Kerry bashing. WE SHOULD LIGHTEN UP??? THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT THREAT TO OUR HOBBY!!! This whole thread started by one poor soul mentioning he got interference whenever Bush was in town and was wondering if it was related to his visits. That's All!! I fly almost every day on the center grass median of Capital Ave. in Sacramento, a 1/2 block from the Capital and within easy reach of Arnold's smoking tent. I have had a few interested official looking people check me out, but besides that they have left me alone. This is probably illegal as hell, and if I was told to fly somewhere else I would. I seem to entertain a lot of state worker during their lunch break. So one has even thought that somehow I am a security risk. It seems only the right-wing, anti-Government, paranoid, wackos, on this list feel threatened. I have heard of shortages of certain medications, maybe this explains the sudden rise in paranoid postings. This is a Soaring Exchange for gods sake, not a Paranoid Government Conspiracy Exchange!!! Craig RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange
Hey Craig, you arent by any chance a postal worker are you? -Original Message- From: Craig Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:46 PM Subject: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange Marta Zavala Wrote Lighten up Al/Craig! Me, Al and a lot of others sat back while this thread got beat to death for the last week. When we finally stand up to the outright ignorance that has been spouted, from non existing gun rights to Kerry bashing. WE SHOULD LIGHTEN UP??? THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT THREAT TO OUR HOBBY!!! This whole thread started by one poor soul mentioning he got interference whenever Bush was in town and was wondering if it was related to his visits. That's All!! I fly almost every day on the center grass median of Capital Ave. in Sacramento, a 1/2 block from the Capital and within easy reach of Arnold's smoking tent. I have had a few interested official looking people check me out, but besides that they have left me alone. This is probably illegal as hell, and if I was told to fly somewhere else I would. I seem to entertain a lot of state worker during their lunch break. So one has even thought that somehow I am a security risk. It seems only the right-wing, anti-Government, paranoid, wackos, on this list feel threatened. I have heard of shortages of certain medications, maybe this explains the sudden rise in paranoid postings. This is a Soaring Exchange for gods sake, not a Paranoid Government Conspiracy Exchange!!! Craig RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange
I have waited patently this week for this thread based on ignorance and misinformation to die, but it seems to have a life of its own! Would you right wing anti-American Wakos please find another forum to express you hatred and ignorance towards our country (USA) and its laws. I hear there are plenty of places to fly in China :-) Sincerely, Craig D Allen LSF111 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Right On Crag! Go get um boy! AL Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA Capshaw RealestateREALTOR- ASSOCIATECell 530-228-9445Fax 530-343-1715
Re: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange
TWIMC I am not sure that we can do (politics) that! Model Rocket jocks already need FAA, etc permission to schedule a meet. Fun flying (legal) doesn't exist for them. And most rocket sites are not close to where a lot of rocket jocks live. I am not sure why anyone would think that glider flying in a few special sites is not going to happen to us?SOONER THAN LATER! We fly too high. We are the RC group that will get hit first.(sorry) I cannot fly at two local power fields who would love to have scale glider pilots. They have a field use provision that states no flights above 500 feet, nothing really to do with AMA. Power guys do spike above 500 - but we play for hours up there. This was also true of 2 NJ power fields near Princeton when I lived there. Maybe we should not bash AMA - but we need to get their attention. But probably unlike, some of our favorite bashees, they may just lurk, take detailed notes, but not respond on line. At a local meeting/reception with Maynard Hill --- a modeler (in hind sight I think he was) asked Maynard how they (the team) got permission to exceed the AMA altitude restriction. I am not sure anyone got a clear answer - something about exceptions. just a few thoughts.. Jim On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:56:34 +, Albert E. Wedworth wrote: Right On Crag! Jim Ealy Education by Demonstration RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
