Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
maybe he could lease this workstation from the company then? ;) he could simply pay 10 bucks a month for it.. with a proper invoice what could AD do? (..this hole issue is IMHO totally f***ed up, to say the least i`m waiting for the day i can`t drive my car over border because of licensing issues) --stephan On 1/8/2013 12:13 PM, Stephen Blair wrote: Is it leased by you? I'm not a lawyer, but I understand that clause as meaning that you personally have to own, lease, or control the computer where you install Softimage. On 08/01/2013 6:10 AM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: if i work for the compagny, is the machine i am working with not Leased ? On 8 January 2013 12:06, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.com mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi The License Agreement defines the terms of use: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112id=10235425#section29 Territory and number of installs are the most obvious restrictions. Assuming you purchased your license in the EU, then you can use it anywhere in that territory. However, Section 2.1.1 does say ...no license is granted (whether expressly, by implication or otherwise) under this Agreement...for Installation of the Licensed Materials on any Computer other than a Computer owned or leased, and controlled by Licensee, unless otherwise authorized in writing by Autodesk... On 08/01/2013 4:36 AM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Greeting good day good evening everyone, Fellow Softimage users, my name is Sebastien Sterling, recently i purchesed my own softimage license so as i was going to work for nWave digital a Belgium feature film studio, and that i know of no better tool for the work i do, mine is a character modeling position. The place uses maya, but i was told that if i was able to provide my own license that this should not be a problem. however there seems to be a schism in the company. and the higher up IT peoples stance is: they require confirmation from Autodesk that i can use my my license in the this company. My question is this, has anyone ever brought their softimage to work for a company ? if so how did this come about...\ or Alternatively, what would autodesks stance be on this, as the issue seems to hinge on the leagle ramification of package controls. I love this package, i bought it, even in these uneasy questionable times, and i love this community, please guys, Help me ! No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6000 - Release Date: 12/31/12 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- Untitled Document Stephan Haidacher Freelance 3D Artist/Compositor www.shaidacher.com http://www.shaidacher.com
Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
Hey Sebastian, no harm done. I´m with Stephan, owner and licensee is a nasty difference. The old days where nice, a physical dongle providing prove, control and means of actually bringing your license to where you needed it. It was easy to forget or snap the USB one, too :-) Cheers, tim On 10.01.2013 12:38, Stephan Haidacher wrote: maybe he could lease this workstation from the company then? ;) he could simply pay 10 bucks a month for it.. with a proper invoice what could AD do? (..this hole issue is IMHO totally f***ed up, to say the least i`m waiting for the day i can`t drive my car over border because of licensing issues) --stephan On 1/8/2013 12:13 PM, Stephen Blair wrote: Is it leased by you? I'm not a lawyer, but I understand that clause as meaning that you personally have to own, lease, or control the computer where you install Softimage. On 08/01/2013 6:10 AM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: if i work for the compagny, is the machine i am working with not Leased ? On 8 January 2013 12:06, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.com mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi The License Agreement defines the terms of use: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112id=10235425#section29 Territory and number of installs are the most obvious restrictions. Assuming you purchased your license in the EU, then you can use it anywhere in that territory. However, Section 2.1.1 does say ...no license is granted (whether expressly, by implication or otherwise) under this Agreement...for Installation of the Licensed Materials on any Computer other than a Computer owned or leased, and controlled by Licensee, unless otherwise authorized in writing by Autodesk... On 08/01/2013 4:36 AM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Greeting good day good evening everyone, Fellow Softimage users, my name is Sebastien Sterling, recently i purchesed my own softimage license so as i was going to work for nWave digital a Belgium feature film studio, and that i know of no better tool for the work i do, mine is a character modeling position. The place uses maya, but i was told that if i was able to provide my own license that this should not be a problem. however there seems to be a schism in the company. and the higher up IT peoples stance is: they require confirmation from Autodesk that i can use my my license in the this company. My question is this, has anyone ever brought their softimage to work for a company ? if so how did this come about...\ or Alternatively, what would autodesks stance be on this, as the issue seems to hinge on the leagle ramification of package controls. I love this package, i bought it, even in these uneasy questionable times, and i love this community, please guys, Help me ! No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6000 - Release Date: 12/31/12 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- Untitled Document Stephan Haidacher Freelance 3D Artist/Compositor www.shaidacher.com http://www.shaidacher.com
RE: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
I'm not really in a position or qualified to comment on this legally. Transferring a license will often incur a fee. But there is the transfer utility that Stephen mentioned in an earlier post. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastien Sterling Sent: 10 January 2013 13:55 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!! maybe he could lease this workstation from the company then? ;) he could simply pay 10 bucks a month for it.. with a proper invoice This sounds interesting Stephan. Graham in your experience would this work from a Legal standpoint ? im assuming i could transfer the licence back onto my laptop after i finish ? On 10 January 2013 13:15, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.demailto:bauero...@gmx.de wrote: Hey Sebastian, no harm done. I´m with Stephan, owner and licensee is a nasty difference. The old days where nice, a physical dongle providing prove, control and means of actually bringing your license to where you needed it. It was easy to forget or snap the USB one, too :-) Cheers, tim On 10.01.2013 12:38, Stephan Haidacher wrote: maybe he could lease this workstation from the company then? ;) he could simply pay 10 bucks a month for it.. with a proper invoice what could AD do? (..this hole issue is IMHO totally f***ed up, to say the least i`m waiting for the day i can`t drive my car over border because of licensing issues) --stephan On 1/8/2013 12:13 PM, Stephen Blair wrote: Is it leased by you? I'm not a lawyer, but I understand that clause as meaning that you personally have to own, lease, or control the computer where you install Softimage. On 08/01/2013 6:10 AM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: if i work for the compagny, is the machine i am working with not Leased ? On 8 January 2013 12:06, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.commailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.commailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi The License Agreement defines the terms of use: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112id=10235425#section29 Territory and number of installs are the most obvious restrictions. Assuming you purchased your license in the EU, then you can use it anywhere in that territory. However, Section 2.1.1 does say ...no license is granted (whether expressly, by implication or otherwise) under this Agreement...for Installation of the Licensed Materials on any Computer other than a Computer owned or leased, and controlled by Licensee, unless otherwise authorized in writing by Autodesk... On 08/01/2013 4:36 AM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Greeting good day good evening everyone, Fellow Softimage users, my name is Sebastien Sterling, recently i purchesed my own softimage license so as i was going to work for nWave digital a Belgium feature film studio, and that i know of no better tool for the work i do, mine is a character modeling position. The place uses maya, but i was told that if i was able to provide my own license that this should not be a problem. however there seems to be a schism in the company. and the higher up IT peoples stance is: they require confirmation from Autodesk that i can use my my license in the this company. My question is this, has anyone ever brought their softimage to work for a company ? if so how did this come about...\ or Alternatively, what would autodesks stance be on this, as the issue seems to hinge on the leagle ramification of package controls. I love this package, i bought it, even in these uneasy questionable times, and i love this community, please guys, Help me ! No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6000 - Release Date: 12/31/12 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- Untitled Document Stephan Haidacher Freelance 3D Artist/Compositor www.shaidacher.comhttp://www.shaidacher.com http://www.shaidacher.com attachment: winmail.dat
Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
This is the challenge IT Dept facing now. They are bound by ISMS of the company, and usually it's a written policies in IT Security policies. They have to protect the company from un-necessary hassle such as legal issue. In broader way it include challenge to BYOD policies, some company doesn't allow you to use your own device to work in corporate network, because it introduce another threat for Information Security. It need a holistic solution from them software vendor, how software vendor adopt the changes in IT landscape for example. Cloud computing and mobility will be the trend in next couple of year. So the question is what the software vendor see in this changes. But as I deal with both position, it will never be easy to solve the issue, from legal and pipeline perspective. Cheers, On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de wrote: Hey Sebastian, no harm done. I´m with Stephan, owner and licensee is a nasty difference. The old days where nice, a physical dongle providing prove, control and means of actually bringing your license to where you needed it. It was easy to forget or snap the USB one, too :-) Cheers, tim On 10.01.2013 12:38, Stephan Haidacher wrote: maybe he could lease this workstation from the company then? ;) he could simply pay 10 bucks a month for it.. with a proper invoice what could AD do? (..this hole issue is IMHO totally f***ed up, to say the least i`m waiting for the day i can`t drive my car over border because of licensing issues) --stephan On 1/8/2013 12:13 PM, Stephen Blair wrote: Is it leased by you? I'm not a lawyer, but I understand that clause as meaning that you personally have to own, lease, or control the computer where you install Softimage. On 08/01/2013 6:10 AM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: if i work for the compagny, is the machine i am working with not Leased ? On 8 January 2013 12:06, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.commailto: stephenrblair@gmail.**com stephenrbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi The License Agreement defines the terms of use: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/**servlet/index?siteID=123112** id=10235425#section29http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112id=10235425#section29 Territory and number of installs are the most obvious restrictions. Assuming you purchased your license in the EU, then you can use it anywhere in that territory. However, Section 2.1.1 does say ...no license is granted (whether expressly, by implication or otherwise) under this Agreement...for Installation of the Licensed Materials on any Computer other than a Computer owned or leased, and controlled by Licensee, unless otherwise authorized in writing by Autodesk... On 08/01/2013 4:36 AM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Greeting good day good evening everyone, Fellow Softimage users, my name is Sebastien Sterling, recently i purchesed my own softimage license so as i was going to work for nWave digital a Belgium feature film studio, and that i know of no better tool for the work i do, mine is a character modeling position. The place uses maya, but i was told that if i was able to provide my own license that this should not be a problem. however there seems to be a schism in the company. and the higher up IT peoples stance is: they require confirmation from Autodesk that i can use my my license in the this company. My question is this, has anyone ever brought their softimage to work for a company ? if so how did this come about...\ or Alternatively, what would autodesks stance be on this, as the issue seems to hinge on the leagle ramification of package controls. I love this package, i bought it, even in these uneasy questionable times, and i love this community, please guys, Help me ! No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6000 - Release Date: 12/31/12 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- Untitled Document Stephan Haidacher Freelance 3D Artist/Compositor www.shaidacher.com http://www.shaidacher.com -- Daniel Harjanto Infinite Frameworks Studios TD http://misterdi.cgpot.com
Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
wasn't there a way to export/import/transfer your license? if so, there wouldn't be a problem I guess... Rob \/-\/\/ On 8-1-2013 10:36, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Greeting good day good evening everyone, Fellow Softimage users, my name is Sebastien Sterling, recently i purchesed my own softimage license so as i was going to work for nWave digital a Belgium feature film studio, and that i know of no better tool for the work i do, mine is a character modeling position. The place uses maya, but i was told that if i was able to provide my own license that this should not be a problem. however there seems to be a schism in the company. and the higher up IT peoples stance is: they require confirmation from Autodesk that i can use my my license in the this company. My question is this, has anyone ever brought their softimage to work for a company ? if so how did this come about...\ or Alternatively, what would autodesks stance be on this, as the issue seems to hinge on the leagle ramification of package controls. I love this package, i bought it, even in these uneasy questionable times, and i love this community, please guys, Help me ! No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6017 - Release Date: 01/07/13
Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
Could you ask them to install a trial in the meantime? DAN On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: I bought it in the EU and i plan on using it in the EU, the company nWave, is concerned that me using this personnel license within their company is ok with autodesk i need to find some official guidline or confermation from autodesk to put this at piece. its ridiculously difficult to get in contact with autodesk, i need this quick is there an official email for Autodesk subscription / licensing support?, mine is not a subscription advantage pack, i bought a license. this situation is obscene. i don't know where to go with this... On 8 January 2013 10:55, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sebastien, if you bought it in EU you can use it in EU, no? thought the issue was if it was US / EU usage. even then you can grant a temporary license to yourself to work away from the 'license server' for a month at a time... am sure AD do not expect you to buy two versions for inside / outside EU , that would be preposterous... have you emailed Autodesk subscription / licensing support? best Rob On 8 January 2013 09:36, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Greeting good day good evening everyone, Fellow Softimage users, my name is Sebastien Sterling, recently i purchesed my own softimage license so as i was going to work for nWave digital a Belgium feature film studio, and that i know of no better tool for the work i do, mine is a character modeling position. The place uses maya, but i was told that if i was able to provide my own license that this should not be a problem. however there seems to be a schism in the company. and the higher up IT peoples stance is: they require confirmation from Autodesk that i can use my my license in the this company. My question is this, has anyone ever brought their softimage to work for a company ? if so how did this come about...\ or Alternatively, what would autodesks stance be on this, as the issue seems to hinge on the leagle ramification of package controls. I love this package, i bought it, even in these uneasy questionable times, and i love this community, please guys, Help me !
Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
Hi The License Agreement defines the terms of use: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112id=10235425#section29 Territory and number of installs are the most obvious restrictions. Assuming you purchased your license in the EU, then you can use it anywhere in that territory. However, Section 2.1.1 does say ...no license is granted (whether expressly, by implication or otherwise) under this Agreement...for Installation of the Licensed Materials on any Computer other than a Computer owned or leased, and controlled by Licensee, unless otherwise authorized in writing by Autodesk... On 08/01/2013 4:36 AM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Greeting good day good evening everyone, Fellow Softimage users, my name is Sebastien Sterling, recently i purchesed my own softimage license so as i was going to work for nWave digital a Belgium feature film studio, and that i know of no better tool for the work i do, mine is a character modeling position. The place uses maya, but i was told that if i was able to provide my own license that this should not be a problem. however there seems to be a schism in the company. and the higher up IT peoples stance is: they require confirmation from Autodesk that i can use my my license in the this company. My question is this, has anyone ever brought their softimage to work for a company ? if so how did this come about...\ or Alternatively, what would autodesks stance be on this, as the issue seems to hinge on the leagle ramification of package controls. I love this package, i bought it, even in these uneasy questionable times, and i love this community, please guys, Help me !
Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
Some other options: https://twitter.com/AutodeskCare lice...@autodesk.com The US site has a I want to speak to a person option, but I don't know if that is available on other regional sites. On 08/01/2013 5:48 AM, Rob Chapman wrote: sorry no phone numbers just an email form with a support number issued can be found here http://subscription.autodesk.com On 8 January 2013 10:38, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have an autodesk support service number or email, i don't seem to have got one with my purchase conformation, big surprise there... On 8 January 2013 11:33, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting the impression that the head of IT is an incredibly obtuse individual i have the installer, what i need is the administrative rights so that i can install it or he can install it, but there is where he has my head in a vice, he's making me jump through every administrative whoop twice. i like your Idea Dan, i will appeal the trial version idea, but it will come down to weather this guy in IT wants to bother coming down to give admin to do so. On 8 January 2013 11:18, Dan Yargici danyarg...@gmail.com wrote: Could you ask them to install a trial in the meantime? DAN On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: I bought it in the EU and i plan on using it in the EU, the company nWave, is concerned that me using this personnel license within their company is ok with autodesk i need to find some official guidline or confermation from autodesk to put this at piece. its ridiculously difficult to get in contact with autodesk, i need this quick is there an official email for Autodesk subscription / licensing support?, mine is not a subscription advantage pack, i bought a license. this situation is obscene. i don't know where to go with this... On 8 January 2013 10:55, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sebastien, if you bought it in EU you can use it in EU, no? thought the issue was if it was US / EU usage. even then you can grant a temporary license to yourself to work away from the 'license server' for a month at a time... am sure AD do not expect you to buy two versions for inside / outside EU , that would be preposterous... have you emailed Autodesk subscription / licensing support? best Rob On 8 January 2013 09:36, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Greeting good day good evening everyone, Fellow Softimage users, my name is Sebastien Sterling, recently i purchesed my own softimage license so as i was going to work for nWave digital a Belgium feature film studio, and that i know of no better tool for the work i do, mine is a character modeling position. The place uses maya, but i was told that if i was able to provide my own license that this should not be a problem. however there seems to be a schism in the company. and the higher up IT peoples stance is: they require confirmation from Autodesk that i can use my my license in the this company. My question is this, has anyone ever brought their softimage to work for a company ? if so how did this come about...\ or Alternatively, what would autodesks stance be on this, as the issue seems to hinge on the leagle ramification of package controls. I love this package, i bought it, even in these uneasy questionable times, and i love this community, please guys, Help me !
Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
Is it leased by you? I'm not a lawyer, but I understand that clause as meaning that you personally have to own, lease, or control the computer where you install Softimage. On 08/01/2013 6:10 AM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: if i work for the compagny, is the machine i am working with not Leased ? On 8 January 2013 12:06, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.com mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi The License Agreement defines the terms of use: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112id=10235425#section29 Territory and number of installs are the most obvious restrictions. Assuming you purchased your license in the EU, then you can use it anywhere in that territory. However, Section 2.1.1 does say ...no license is granted (whether expressly, by implication or otherwise) under this Agreement...for Installation of the Licensed Materials on any Computer other than a Computer owned or leased, and controlled by Licensee, unless otherwise authorized in writing by Autodesk... On 08/01/2013 4:36 AM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Greeting good day good evening everyone, Fellow Softimage users, my name is Sebastien Sterling, recently i purchesed my own softimage license so as i was going to work for nWave digital a Belgium feature film studio, and that i know of no better tool for the work i do, mine is a character modeling position. The place uses maya, but i was told that if i was able to provide my own license that this should not be a problem. however there seems to be a schism in the company. and the higher up IT peoples stance is: they require confirmation from Autodesk that i can use my my license in the this company. My question is this, has anyone ever brought their softimage to work for a company ? if so how did this come about...\ or Alternatively, what would autodesks stance be on this, as the issue seems to hinge on the leagle ramification of package controls. I love this package, i bought it, even in these uneasy questionable times, and i love this community, please guys, Help me !
RE: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
I should imagine the Softimage guys who frequent here will be on this later today so maybe wait till then! S. Sandy Sutherland | Technical Supervisor From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Rob Chapman [tekano@gmail.com] Sent: 08 January 2013 12:48 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!! sorry no phone numbers just an email form with a support number issued can be found here http://subscription.autodesk.com On 8 January 2013 10:38, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have an autodesk support service number or email, i don't seem to have got one with my purchase conformation, big surprise there... On 8 January 2013 11:33, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting the impression that the head of IT is an incredibly obtuse individual i have the installer, what i need is the administrative rights so that i can install it or he can install it, but there is where he has my head in a vice, he's making me jump through every administrative whoop twice. i like your Idea Dan, i will appeal the trial version idea, but it will come down to weather this guy in IT wants to bother coming down to give admin to do so. On 8 January 2013 11:18, Dan Yargici danyarg...@gmail.com wrote: Could you ask them to install a trial in the meantime? DAN On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: I bought it in the EU and i plan on using it in the EU, the company nWave, is concerned that me using this personnel license within their company is ok with autodesk i need to find some official guidline or confermation from autodesk to put this at piece. its ridiculously difficult to get in contact with autodesk, i need this quick is there an official email for Autodesk subscription / licensing support?, mine is not a subscription advantage pack, i bought a license. this situation is obscene. i don't know where to go with this... On 8 January 2013 10:55, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sebastien, if you bought it in EU you can use it in EU, no? thought the issue was if it was US / EU usage. even then you can grant a temporary license to yourself to work away from the 'license server' for a month at a time... am sure AD do not expect you to buy two versions for inside / outside EU , that would be preposterous... have you emailed Autodesk subscription / licensing support? best Rob On 8 January 2013 09:36, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Greeting good day good evening everyone, Fellow Softimage users, my name is Sebastien Sterling, recently i purchesed my own softimage license so as i was going to work for nWave digital a Belgium feature film studio, and that i know of no better tool for the work i do, mine is a character modeling position. The place uses maya, but i was told that if i was able to provide my own license that this should not be a problem. however there seems to be a schism in the company. and the higher up IT peoples stance is: they require confirmation from Autodesk that i can use my my license in the this company. My question is this, has anyone ever brought their softimage to work for a company ? if so how did this come about...\ or Alternatively, what would autodesks stance be on this, as the issue seems to hinge on the leagle ramification of package controls. I love this package, i bought it, even in these uneasy questionable times, and i love this community, please guys, Help me !
Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
Hi Sebastian, be glad you have IT. Please understand the legal consequences for the administrator when installing a software and making it available to use (via the network) to others than the registered user. By the book, it would indeed be neccessary to verify if this is a license that has to be restricted in access, e.g. even if it is a network license, it may only be legit to be used by the registered individual but should not be available to other users and therefor not show as a desktop link or in their start menu. This is not obtuse but boringly difficult to setup and maintain in a multi-person-multi-machine-pipeline and brings the risk of ending up with files either unacessible to many or even illegal to edit. I would think that your reseller should be able to provide proof of purchase or at least help you with the license transfer to the machine that will run the license server for the duration of that job. The documented license transfer to the new machine/MAC ID could be regarded as legit proof of purchase/usage. I would recommend asking your reseller for a temp license, thought. It would be easier to wrap the job without leaving the license behind. Long story short, that´s hoops you have to go through due to Autodesk´s licensing policy and it would most likely be seen as helpful if you would support your IT guys and client in a calm and pro-active manner. You could at least look into using Maya for the modeling, the asset will most likely have to be delivered flawlessly as a Maya scene file anyway. If you see benefits in using Softimage, make the benefit felt, especially if there are stupid licensing problems to start your job with... Cheers, tim On 08.01.2013 11:48, Rob Chapman wrote: sorry no phone numbers just an email form with a support number issued can be found here http://subscription.autodesk.com On 8 January 2013 10:38, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have an autodesk support service number or email, i don't seem to have got one with my purchase conformation, big surprise there... On 8 January 2013 11:33, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting the impression that the head of IT is an incredibly obtuse individual i have the installer, what i need is the administrative rights so that i can install it or he can install it, but there is where he has my head in a vice, he's making me jump through every administrative whoop twice. i like your Idea Dan, i will appeal the trial version idea, but it will come down to weather this guy in IT wants to bother coming down to give admin to do so. On 8 January 2013 11:18, Dan Yargici danyarg...@gmail.com wrote: Could you ask them to install a trial in the meantime? DAN On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: I bought it in the EU and i plan on using it in the EU, the company nWave, is concerned that me using this personnel license within their company is ok with autodesk i need to find some official guidline or confermation from autodesk to put this at piece. its ridiculously difficult to get in contact with autodesk, i need this quick is there an official email for Autodesk subscription / licensing support?, mine is not a subscription advantage pack, i bought a license. this situation is obscene. i don't know where to go with this... On 8 January 2013 10:55, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sebastien, if you bought it in EU you can use it in EU, no? thought the issue was if it was US / EU usage. even then you can grant a temporary license to yourself to work away from the 'license server' for a month at a time... am sure AD do not expect you to buy two versions for inside / outside EU , that would be preposterous... have you emailed Autodesk subscription / licensing support? best Rob On 8 January 2013 09:36, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Greeting good day good evening everyone, Fellow Softimage users, my name is Sebastien Sterling, recently i purchesed my own softimage license so as i was going to work for nWave digital a Belgium feature film studio, and that i know of no better tool for the work i do, mine is a character modeling position. The place uses maya, but i was told that if i was able to provide my own license that this should not be a problem. however there seems to be a schism in the company. and the higher up IT peoples stance is: they require confirmation from Autodesk that i can use my my license in the this company. My question is this, has anyone ever brought their softimage to work for a company ? if so how did this come about...\ or Alternatively, what would autodesks stance be on this, as the issue seems to hinge on the leagle ramification of package controls. I love this package, i bought it, even in these uneasy questionable times, and i love this community, please guys, Help me !
Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
Hey Sebastian, from your previous posts, I could very well read the pressure and stress this unexpected licensing issue brings. Been there. Please understand my suggestions as meant to help take away some of the pressure by pointing out the reason for the delay lying partially beyond your direct control but in the hands of Autodesk making it difficult to solve the issue in a timely manner instead you being stubborn or a diva. Other´s have to see the problem correctly to understand your situation correctly. When I suggested you look into Maya, I tried to suggest you see what else you can already set up in your new workspace to help you work as best as possible and show your Lead you´re willing to problem solve, e.g. give yourself comfort and built trust. If the issue will take 3 days to solve, how can this downtime be used to your benefit, what else needs to be done? e-mail, project structure, naming conventions, lunch with your fellow artists, introduction to the team, briefing and looking into example assets. Memorizing references, collecting new one. Get some beers. That helps imho. Cheers, tim On 08.01.2013 12:54, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Hello there Tim I have nothing against the IT department, apparently, and from what i have been told this lies more with the individual, who is notoriously unhelpful, this is only my second day on the job so lets take that with a pinch of salt, however My Lead requested politely that he provide some means of contacting autodesk, given he being the head of IT should in theory have at least some means of contacting them, to which he answer No I'm not going to bother navigating there fucking website if you have used softimage in production you would doubtless realise that one does not ease back so redely into maya. like using a hammer when you are used to a scalpal i only ask for the right to use the tool i purchased is this what it has come to? cause i think that if this is so you can all pack in your notions that this package will endure. as for my resellers, i bought on the official autodesk webpage for EU and ireland. I am an artist, my tool is softimage, i use it to model characters, and i provide my own license, i should not have to be bulied into another widely regarded as inferior in this domain package. as for: This is not obtuse but boringly difficult to setup do you really think this is a valid excuse for a trained individual not to do there Job ? I have nothing against IT, but i just spent 6000 euro to relocate to belgium for this compagny but since i had the temerity to but hope I could use the software in which i am the most confortable i can just fuck off? I am a young artist, this may not seem much to other people but to me its my career, i'm just trying to make my way. On 8 January 2013 12:19, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de mailto:bauero...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Sebastian, be glad you have IT. Please understand the legal consequences for the administrator when installing a software and making it available to use (via the network) to others than the registered user. By the book, it would indeed be neccessary to verify if this is a license that has to be restricted in access, e.g. even if it is a network license, it may only be legit to be used by the registered individual but should not be available to other users and therefor not show as a desktop link or in their start menu. This is not obtuse but boringly difficult to setup and maintain in a multi-person-multi-machine-__pipeline and brings the risk of ending up with files either unacessible to many or even illegal to edit. I would think that your reseller should be able to provide proof of purchase or at least help you with the license transfer to the machine that will run the license server for the duration of that job. The documented license transfer to the new machine/MAC ID could be regarded as legit proof of purchase/usage. I would recommend asking your reseller for a temp license, thought. It would be easier to wrap the job without leaving the license behind. Long story short, that´s hoops you have to go through due to Autodesk´s licensing policy and it would most likely be seen as helpful if you would support your IT guys and client in a calm and pro-active manner. You could at least look into using Maya for the modeling, the asset will most likely have to be delivered flawlessly as a Maya scene file anyway. If you see benefits in using Softimage, make the benefit felt, especially if there are stupid licensing problems to start your job with... Cheers, tim On 08.01.2013 11:48, Rob Chapman wrote: sorry no phone numbers just an email form with a support number issued can be found here http://subscription.autodesk.__com http://subscription.autodesk.com On 8 January 2013 10:38, Sebastien
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This is kind of amusing considering Autodesk was basically giving away SoftImage with every purchase of Max and Maya. Now, you have to provide your own Soft license? Not a good precedent to set in my opinion. On Jan 8, 2013 7:13 AM, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de wrote: Hey Sebastian, from your previous posts, I could very well read the pressure and stress this unexpected licensing issue brings. Been there. Please understand my suggestions as meant to help take away some of the pressure by pointing out the reason for the delay lying partially beyond your direct control but in the hands of Autodesk making it difficult to solve the issue in a timely manner instead you being stubborn or a diva. Other愀 have to see the problem correctly to understand your situation correctly. When I suggested you look into Maya, I tried to suggest you see what else you can already set up in your new workspace to help you work as best as possible and show your Lead you愉e willing to problem solve, e.g. give yourself comfort and built trust. If the issue will take 3 days to solve, how can this downtime be used to your benefit, what else needs to be done? e-mail, project structure, naming conventions, lunch with your fellow artists, introduction to the team, briefing and looking into example assets. Memorizing references, collecting new one. Get some beers. That helps imho. Cheers, tim On 08.01.2013 12:54, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Hello there Tim I have nothing against the IT department, apparently, and from what i have been told this lies more with the individual, who is notoriously unhelpful, this is only my second day on the job so lets take that with a pinch of salt, however My Lead requested politely that he provide some means of contacting autodesk, given he being the head of IT should in theory have at least some means of contacting them, to which he answer No I'm not going to bother navigating there fucking website if you have used softimage in production you would doubtless realise that one does not ease back so redely into maya. like using a hammer when you are used to a scalpal i only ask for the right to use the tool i purchased is this what it has come to? cause i think that if this is so you can all pack in your notions that this package will endure. as for my resellers, i bought on the official autodesk webpage for EU and ireland. I am an artist, my tool is softimage, i use it to model characters, and i provide my own license, i should not have to be bulied into another widely regarded as inferior in this domain package. as for: This is not obtuse but boringly difficult to setup do you really think this is a valid excuse for a trained individual not to do there Job ? I have nothing against IT, but i just spent 6000 euro to relocate to belgium for this compagny but since i had the temerity to but hope I could use the software in which i am the most confortable i can just fuck off? I am a young artist, this may not seem much to other people but to me its my career, i'm just trying to make my way. On 8 January 2013 12:19, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de mailto: bauero...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Sebastian, be glad you have IT. Please understand the legal consequences for the administrator when installing a software and making it available to use (via the network) to others than the registered user. By the book, it would indeed be neccessary to verify if this is a license that has to be restricted in access, e.g. even if it is a network license, it may only be legit to be used by the registered individual but should not be available to other users and therefor not show as a desktop link or in their start menu. This is not obtuse but boringly difficult to setup and maintain in a multi-person-multi-machine-__**pipeline and brings the risk of ending up with files either unacessible to many or even illegal to edit. I would think that your reseller should be able to provide proof of purchase or at least help you with the license transfer to the machine that will run the license server for the duration of that job. The documented license transfer to the new machine/MAC ID could be regarded as legit proof of purchase/usage. I would recommend asking your reseller for a temp license, thought. It would be easier to wrap the job without leaving the license behind. Long story short, that愀 hoops you have to go through due to Autodesk愀 licensing policy and it would most likely be seen as helpful if you would support your IT guys and client in a calm and pro-active manner. You could at least look into using Maya for the modeling, the asset will most likely have to be delivered flawlessly as a Maya scene file anyway. If you see benefits in using Softimage, make the benefit felt, especially if there are stupid licensing
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you can't use a trial version for any commercial work Le 2013-01-08 05:19, Dan Yargici danyarg...@gmail.com a écrit : Could you ask them to install a trial in the meantime? DAN On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: I bought it in the EU and i plan on using it in the EU, the company nWave, is concerned that me using this personnel license within their company is ok with autodesk i need to find some official guidline or confermation from autodesk to put this at piece. its ridiculously difficult to get in contact with autodesk, i need this quick is there an official email for Autodesk subscription / licensing support?, mine is not a subscription advantage pack, i bought a license. this situation is obscene. i don't know where to go with this... On 8 January 2013 10:55, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sebastien, if you bought it in EU you can use it in EU, no? thought the issue was if it was US / EU usage. even then you can grant a temporary license to yourself to work away from the 'license server' for a month at a time... am sure AD do not expect you to buy two versions for inside / outside EU , that would be preposterous... have you emailed Autodesk subscription / licensing support? best Rob On 8 January 2013 09:36, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Greeting good day good evening everyone, Fellow Softimage users, my name is Sebastien Sterling, recently i purchesed my own softimage license so as i was going to work for nWave digital a Belgium feature film studio, and that i know of no better tool for the work i do, mine is a character modeling position. The place uses maya, but i was told that if i was able to provide my own license that this should not be a problem. however there seems to be a schism in the company. and the higher up IT peoples stance is: they require confirmation from Autodesk that i can use my my license in the this company. My question is this, has anyone ever brought their softimage to work for a company ? if so how did this come about...\ or Alternatively, what would autodesks stance be on this, as the issue seems to hinge on the leagle ramification of package controls. I love this package, i bought it, even in these uneasy questionable times, and i love this community, please guys, Help me !
Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
I've run into a number of cases where IT at studios bends over backwards to avoid having to deal with new software of any complexity, period. In general however the CG supervisor at any studio is the ultimate authority in what software is used in the pipeline. IT has a voice, but they don't produce the product, they are there to make that production possible. If the CG sup says I can use a tool, then IT had better damned well get on board or that sup should tear them a new one. But adding Softimage into the mix at a maya-only studio is not a casual decision, either. It's entirely within the studios right to dictate to their artists what tools are or are not used, and the artists must respect that with an understanding that staying within the pipeline is important. In short - who says you can use Softimage? If they say you can, have them tell IT to give you the support you need. If IT refuses, escalate the issue to the highest level you can until something is done, even if it means the decision to use Softimage is put in question... A studio where IT rolls over artists instead of enabling the, has problems, call attention to it.
Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
if you have used softimage in production you would doubtless realise that one does not ease back so readily into maya. Ha! It will be a cold day in hell before I go back to modeling/rigging in Maya. On 1/8/2013 6:54 AM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Hello there Tim I have nothing against the IT department, apparently, and from what i have been told this lies more with the individual, who is notoriously unhelpful, this is only my second day on the job so lets take that with a pinch of salt, however My Lead requested politely that he provide some means of contacting autodesk, given he being the head of IT should in theory have at least some means of contacting them, to which he answer No I'm not going to bother navigating there fucking website if you have used softimage in production you would doubtless realise that one does not ease back so redely into maya. like using a hammer when you are used to a scalpal i only ask for the right to use the tool i purchased is this what it has come to? cause i think that if this is so you can all pack in your notions that this package will endure. as for my resellers, i bought on the official autodesk webpage for EU and ireland. I am an artist, my tool is softimage, i use it to model characters, and i provide my own license, i should not have to be bulied into another widely regarded as inferior in this domain package. as for: This is not obtuse but boringly difficult to setup do you really think this is a valid excuse for a trained individual not to do there Job ? I have nothing against IT, but i just spent 6000 euro to relocate to belgium for this compagny but since i had the temerity to but hope I could use the software in which i am the most confortable i can just fuck off? I am a young artist, this may not seem much to other people but to me its my career, i'm just trying to make my way. On 8 January 2013 12:19, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de mailto:bauero...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Sebastian, be glad you have IT. Please understand the legal consequences for the administrator when installing a software and making it available to use (via the network) to others than the registered user. By the book, it would indeed be neccessary to verify if this is a license that has to be restricted in access, e.g. even if it is a network license, it may only be legit to be used by the registered individual but should not be available to other users and therefor not show as a desktop link or in their start menu. This is not obtuse but boringly difficult to setup and maintain in a multi-person-multi-machine-pipeline and brings the risk of ending up with files either unacessible to many or even illegal to edit. I would think that your reseller should be able to provide proof of purchase or at least help you with the license transfer to the machine that will run the license server for the duration of that job. The documented license transfer to the new machine/MAC ID could be regarded as legit proof of purchase/usage. I would recommend asking your reseller for a temp license, thought. It would be easier to wrap the job without leaving the license behind. Long story short, that´s hoops you have to go through due to Autodesk´s licensing policy and it would most likely be seen as helpful if you would support your IT guys and client in a calm and pro-active manner. You could at least look into using Maya for the modeling, the asset will most likely have to be delivered flawlessly as a Maya scene file anyway. If you see benefits in using Softimage, make the benefit felt, especially if there are stupid licensing problems to start your job with... Cheers, tim On 08.01.2013 11:48, Rob Chapman wrote: sorry no phone numbers just an email form with a support number issued can be found here http://subscription.autodesk.com On 8 January 2013 10:38, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have an autodesk support service number or email, i don't seem to have got one with my purchase conformation, big surprise there... On 8 January 2013 11:33, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting the impression that the head of IT is an incredibly obtuse individual i have the installer, what i need is the administrative rights so that i can install it or he can install it, but there is where he has my head in a vice, he's making me jump through every administrative whoop twice. i like your Idea Dan,
Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
If you're miserable modeling in Maya, I'd suggest using the NEX plug-in for Maya. It's very softimage-like, with a tweak tool and a command panel like XSI https://draster.com/nex-1.5/overview.html On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:12 AM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: if you have used softimage in production you would doubtless realise that one does not ease back so readily into maya. Ha! It will be a cold day in hell before I go back to modeling/rigging in Maya.
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Pipelines are lovely. Each and every single one of them is different and yet they are all the same in terms of being rigidly slow in adapting to the needs they were implemented to adress in the first place. The only thing worse is a wildly grown, undocumented and none consistent approach to getting things done quickly and just seemingly efficiently. No, that´s not true, it´s even worse if the Production team has gotten used to asking the impossible without bothering about thinking it through at all but just imposing this expectation down the line. You want the kids club menu price but the large menu because you´ve come to think it worked once, it´ll better always work again and again... That´s problems of growth. Personal and company growth. At some point, gaffa tape isn´t enough anymore. Neither on the mouth, nor on the results. This shows in conflicts where reasonable communication is avoided because it implies responsibility the hands-on approach easily and conveniently overrides. It also shows in conflicts where departments start to become hesistant or unavailable because they try to refuse the BS and long for a more reliable, thoughtful and ideally even respectful handling of matters regarding day to day problemsolving. In short, the wish for strategic planning is expressed in refusing the state of affairs. Not your fault. Unfortunately also not much you can do about it either but accept that it´s the messenger that get´s killed first. I´m with Andy and Eric you have to speak up, but it´s not guaranteed that your effort will get honoured, instead, chances are that you will get flamed for creating problems. That´s where you end up hoping to find reason, that´s where you have to expect disapointment. That´s why I can very well understand how much a simple licensing issue can suck. Cheers, tim P.S: Even the best and most prudent Coordinators and Producers hate problems. Beware of the canny ones, they are worse, they will cross you on top... On 08.01.2013 16:22, Eric Lampi wrote: I had a similar experience a couple years ago at a studio how has a satellite office here in NYC. They were all Maya and they had an overbuilt, convoluted file structure that was really inappropriate for commercial work. So much so that the staff people there refused to comply with it. The hoops I had to jump through just to get a folder with proper permissions to set up a workgroup set up on the server was absolutely breathtaking. It took more than a week and several long emails back and forth explaining what a workgroup was and why I needed it to be accessible to everyone on the job. All because of an aloof cg director and IT department that put itself above the very thing that pays their salaries in the first place. I think people like that are totally bonkers. On Jan 8, 2013 9:54 AM, Andy Moorer andymoo...@gmail.com mailto:andymoo...@gmail.com wrote: I've run into a number of cases where IT at studios bends over backwards to avoid having to deal with new software of any complexity, period. In general however the CG supervisor at any studio is the ultimate authority in what software is used in the pipeline. IT has a voice, but they don't produce the product, they are there to make that production possible. If the CG sup says I can use a tool, then IT had better damned well get on board or that sup should tear them a new one. But adding Softimage into the mix at a maya-only studio is not a casual decision, either. It's entirely within the studios right to dictate to their artists what tools are or are not used, and the artists must respect that with an understanding that staying within the pipeline is important. In short - who says you can use Softimage? If they say you can, have them tell IT to give you the support you need. If IT refuses, escalate the issue to the highest level you can until something is done, even if it means the decision to use Softimage is put in question... A studio where IT rolls over artists instead of enabling the, has problems, call attention to it.
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Tim: I wouldn't say that *all* pipelines are rigid and unadaptable. If a pipeline is thoughtfully built from the ground up to be flexible and scale in scope of its involvement from project to project, then it it does not have to be gaff-taped, it simply rolls with the needs of a particular style of project. Sebastien: As far as IT and licensing, the more legwork that you can do for you IT guy (proof of license, type of license, download link, etc.) the more that he'll see that you are trying to help him and the more likely that he'll help you back. Just a thought, -=Eric On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, it's so close to the tweak tool, they should give Softimage a nod. This looks great. However, without the rigging integration, it's not very alluring to me. Dave On 1/8/2013 10:45 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: If you're miserable modeling in Maya, I'd suggest using the NEX plug-in for Maya. It's very softimage-like, with a tweak tool and a command panel like XSI https://draster.com/nex-1.5/**overview.htmlhttps://draster.com/nex-1.5/overview.html On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:12 AM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: if you have used softimage in production you would doubtless realise that one does not ease back so readily into maya. Ha! It will be a cold day in hell before I go back to modeling/rigging in Maya. -- -=T=-
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Sebastien, what about using Softimage on a laptop and transfer the files on a usb drive? Should work for modeling just fine. On 1/8/2013 6:54 AM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Hello there Tim I have nothing against the IT department, apparently, and from what i have been told this lies more with the individual, who is notoriously unhelpful, this is only my second day on the job so lets take that with a pinch of salt, however My Lead requested politely that he provide some means of contacting autodesk, given he being the head of IT should in theory have at least some means of contacting them, to which he answer No I'm not going to bother navigating there fucking website if you have used softimage in production you would doubtless realise that one does not ease back so redely into maya. like using a hammer when you are used to a scalpal i only ask for the right to use the tool i purchased is this what it has come to? cause i think that if this is so you can all pack in your notions that this package will endure. as for my resellers, i bought on the official autodesk webpage for EU and ireland. I am an artist, my tool is softimage, i use it to model characters, and i provide my own license, i should not have to be bulied into another widely regarded as inferior in this domain package. as for: This is not obtuse but boringly difficult to setup do you really think this is a valid excuse for a trained individual not to do there Job ? I have nothing against IT, but i just spent 6000 euro to relocate to belgium for this compagny but since i had the temerity to but hope I could use the software in which i am the most confortable i can just fuck off? I am a young artist, this may not seem much to other people but to me its my career, i'm just trying to make my way. On 8 January 2013 12:19, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de mailto:bauero...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Sebastian, be glad you have IT. Please understand the legal consequences for the administrator when installing a software and making it available to use (via the network) to others than the registered user. By the book, it would indeed be neccessary to verify if this is a license that has to be restricted in access, e.g. even if it is a network license, it may only be legit to be used by the registered individual but should not be available to other users and therefor not show as a desktop link or in their start menu. This is not obtuse but boringly difficult to setup and maintain in a multi-person-multi-machine-pipeline and brings the risk of ending up with files either unacessible to many or even illegal to edit. I would think that your reseller should be able to provide proof of purchase or at least help you with the license transfer to the machine that will run the license server for the duration of that job. The documented license transfer to the new machine/MAC ID could be regarded as legit proof of purchase/usage. I would recommend asking your reseller for a temp license, thought. It would be easier to wrap the job without leaving the license behind. Long story short, that´s hoops you have to go through due to Autodesk´s licensing policy and it would most likely be seen as helpful if you would support your IT guys and client in a calm and pro-active manner. You could at least look into using Maya for the modeling, the asset will most likely have to be delivered flawlessly as a Maya scene file anyway. If you see benefits in using Softimage, make the benefit felt, especially if there are stupid licensing problems to start your job with... Cheers, tim On 08.01.2013 11:48, Rob Chapman wrote: sorry no phone numbers just an email form with a support number issued can be found here http://subscription.autodesk.com On 8 January 2013 10:38, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have an autodesk support service number or email, i don't seem to have got one with my purchase conformation, big surprise there... On 8 January 2013 11:33, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting the impression that the head of IT is an incredibly obtuse individual i have the installer, what i need is the administrative rights so that i can install it or he can install it, but there is where he has my head in a vice, he's making me jump through every administrative whoop twice. i like your Idea Dan, i will appeal the trial version idea, but it
Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
I think that this is the most reasonable and easy solution for your problem. Use a laptop with your own license. Sounds perfect! Javier Vega javierelas...@gmail.com jav...@zao3d.com http://www.zao3d.com http://blog.zao3d.com El 08/01/2013, a las 18:16, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com escribió: Sebastien, what about using Softimage on a laptop and transfer the files on a usb drive? Should work for modeling just fine. On 1/8/2013 6:54 AM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Hello there Tim I have nothing against the IT department, apparently, and from what i have been told this lies more with the individual, who is notoriously unhelpful, this is only my second day on the job so lets take that with a pinch of salt, however My Lead requested politely that he provide some means of contacting autodesk, given he being the head of IT should in theory have at least some means of contacting them, to which he answer No I'm not going to bother navigating there fucking website if you have used softimage in production you would doubtless realise that one does not ease back so redely into maya. like using a hammer when you are used to a scalpal i only ask for the right to use the tool i purchased is this what it has come to? cause i think that if this is so you can all pack in your notions that this package will endure. as for my resellers, i bought on the official autodesk webpage for EU and ireland. I am an artist, my tool is softimage, i use it to model characters, and i provide my own license, i should not have to be bulied into another widely regarded as inferior in this domain package. as for: This is not obtuse but boringly difficult to setup do you really think this is a valid excuse for a trained individual not to do there Job ? I have nothing against IT, but i just spent 6000 euro to relocate to belgium for this compagny but since i had the temerity to but hope I could use the software in which i am the most confortable i can just fuck off? I am a young artist, this may not seem much to other people but to me its my career, i'm just trying to make my way. On 8 January 2013 12:19, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Sebastian, be glad you have IT. Please understand the legal consequences for the administrator when installing a software and making it available to use (via the network) to others than the registered user. By the book, it would indeed be neccessary to verify if this is a license that has to be restricted in access, e.g. even if it is a network license, it may only be legit to be used by the registered individual but should not be available to other users and therefor not show as a desktop link or in their start menu. This is not obtuse but boringly difficult to setup and maintain in a multi-person-multi-machine-pipeline and brings the risk of ending up with files either unacessible to many or even illegal to edit. I would think that your reseller should be able to provide proof of purchase or at least help you with the license transfer to the machine that will run the license server for the duration of that job. The documented license transfer to the new machine/MAC ID could be regarded as legit proof of purchase/usage. I would recommend asking your reseller for a temp license, thought. It would be easier to wrap the job without leaving the license behind. Long story short, that´s hoops you have to go through due to Autodesk´s licensing policy and it would most likely be seen as helpful if you would support your IT guys and client in a calm and pro-active manner. You could at least look into using Maya for the modeling, the asset will most likely have to be delivered flawlessly as a Maya scene file anyway. If you see benefits in using Softimage, make the benefit felt, especially if there are stupid licensing problems to start your job with... Cheers, tim On 08.01.2013 11:48, Rob Chapman wrote: sorry no phone numbers just an email form with a support number issued can be found here http://subscription.autodesk.com On 8 January 2013 10:38, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have an autodesk support service number or email, i don't seem to have got one with my purchase conformation, big surprise there... On 8 January 2013 11:33, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting the impression that the head of IT is an incredibly obtuse individual i have the installer, what i need is the administrative rights so that i can install it or he can install it, but there is where he has my head in a vice, he's making me jump through every administrative whoop twice. i like your Idea Dan, i will appeal the trial version idea, but it will come down to weather this guy in IT wants to bother coming down to give admin to do so. On 8 January 2013 11:18, Dan Yargici
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I generalized to make it read easier but won´t insist on this simplification used for the sake of illustrating a big, heavy thing that may be intimidating at times, exceed the scope of ones own field of view or just as well be magic thing that mostly goes unnoticed. My primary concern was to point out that there may be conflicts that will more likely show when running into the limits of an existing solution and that it may be surprisingly hard to make people see the benefit of changing things as first and foremost this means having to put in some thought, some work and seeing the own area of comfortable control or personal freedom in danger. This applies to all positions involved, everybody has to refind their new place and not everybody likes this. I also would like to point out that any problem one may run into in a scenario as such may easily found a criticism and that is something where it is tempting to boldly react as if that´s uncalled for. It takes a strong personality to not take this personal but see the benefit of questioning the current status for the better and be willing to take this to each and everyone involved who may just be fine with how things work and not willing to adapt at all. Which brought me to the Production Team, including the Supervisor. For them, it´s first of all a problem when all they want you to do is function in a way that makes them deliver what they have promised to a client. Only a few want to realise this ultimately mean responsibility, not just sexy power. Cheers, tim On 08.01.2013 18:14, Eric Turman wrote: Tim: I wouldn't say that *all* pipelines are rigid and unadaptable. If a pipeline is thoughtfully built from the ground up to be flexible and scale in scope of its involvement from project to project, then it it does not have to be gaff-taped, it simply rolls with the needs of a particular style of project. Sebastien: As far as IT and licensing, the more legwork that you can do for you IT guy (proof of license, type of license, download link, etc.) the more that he'll see that you are trying to help him and the more likely that he'll help you back. Just a thought, -=Eric On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com mailto:davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, it's so close to the tweak tool, they should give Softimage a nod. This looks great. However, without the rigging integration, it's not very alluring to me. Dave On 1/8/2013 10:45 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: If you're miserable modeling in Maya, I'd suggest using the NEX plug-in for Maya. It's very softimage-like, with a tweak tool and a command panel like XSI https://draster.com/nex-1.5/__overview.html https://draster.com/nex-1.5/overview.html On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:12 AM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com mailto:davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: if you have used softimage in production you would doubtless realise that one does not ease back so readily into maya. Ha! It will be a cold day in hell before I go back to modeling/rigging in Maya. -- -=T=-
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I have never done it but arent you allowed to borrow a license from home? On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: What a day it has been, the issue has not been resolved but a tenuous agreement seems to have been struck, for better or worse it will have to do if i am to remain productive. I would like to thank everyone who came on, for their help and support in any form it may have been offered. especially, Tim Leydecker, i feel we started out on the wrong foot, but in a time of stress when i feel i lashed out, you where quick to show empathy and understanding. Stephen Blair for his resourcefulness in providing Key information. Dave and Javier, a nice idea, but they would never allow it, it would conflict with the clause of my contract stipulating never taking any IP of the premisses and with every other network conduct and antivirus stance. i will get back too you now but my head is lolling and it has been the most prustrating day, so please forgive and catch you toomorrow On 8 January 2013 19:03, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de wrote: I generalized to make it read easier but won愒 insist on this simplification used for the sake of illustrating a big, heavy thing that may be intimidating at times, exceed the scope of ones own field of view or just as well be magic thing that mostly goes unnoticed. My primary concern was to point out that there may be conflicts that will more likely show when running into the limits of an existing solution and that it may be surprisingly hard to make people see the benefit of changing things as first and foremost this means having to put in some thought, some work and seeing the own area of comfortable control or personal freedom in danger. This applies to all positions involved, everybody has to refind their new place and not everybody likes this. I also would like to point out that any problem one may run into in a scenario as such may easily found a criticism and that is something where it is tempting to boldly react as if that愀 uncalled for. It takes a strong personality to not take this personal but see the benefit of questioning the current status for the better and be willing to take this to each and everyone involved who may just be fine with how things work and not willing to adapt at all. Which brought me to the Production Team, including the Supervisor. For them, it愀 first of all a problem when all they want you to do is function in a way that makes them deliver what they have promised to a client. Only a few want to realise this ultimately mean responsibility, not just sexy power. Cheers, tim On 08.01.2013 18:14, Eric Turman wrote: Tim: I wouldn't say that *all* pipelines are rigid and unadaptable. If a pipeline is thoughtfully built from the ground up to be flexible and scale in scope of its involvement from project to project, then it it does not have to be gaff-taped, it simply rolls with the needs of a particular style of project. Sebastien: As far as IT and licensing, the more legwork that you can do for you IT guy (proof of license, type of license, download link, etc.) the more that he'll see that you are trying to help him and the more likely that he'll help you back. Just a thought, -=Eric On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com mailto:davegsoftimagelist@**gmail.comdavegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, it's so close to the tweak tool, they should give Softimage a nod. This looks great. However, without the rigging integration, it's not very alluring to me. Dave On 1/8/2013 10:45 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: If you're miserable modeling in Maya, I'd suggest using the NEX plug-in for Maya. It's very softimage-like, with a tweak tool and a command panel like XSI https://draster.com/nex-1.5/__**overview.htmlhttps://draster.com/nex-1.5/__overview.html https://draster.com/nex-1.5/**overview.htmlhttps://draster.com/nex-1.5/overview.html On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:12 AM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com mailto:davegsoftimagelist@** gmail.com davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: if you have used softimage in production you would doubtless realise that one does not ease back so readily into maya. Ha! It will be a cold day in hell before I go back to modeling/rigging in Maya. -- -=T=- -- www.johnrichardsanchez.com
Re: URGENT Softimage license question within a company !!!
Hi You can borrow a network license, but you have to connect to your home machine and check out the license first. For a laptop that's not too bad, but for a workstation in the office it's probably going to be a problem. A standalone license can be transferred via the License Transfer Utility (basically, you upload the license to an Autodesk server, and then download it onto some other machine). On 08/01/2013 3:46 PM, John Richard Sanchez wrote: I have never done it but arent you allowed to borrow a license from home? On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: What a day it has been, the issue has not been resolved but a tenuous agreement seems to have been struck, for better or worse it will have to do if i am to remain productive. I would like to thank everyone who came on, for their help and support in any form it may have been offered. especially, Tim Leydecker, i feel we started out on the wrong foot, but in a time of stress when i feel i lashed out, you where quick to show empathy and understanding. Stephen Blair for his resourcefulness in providing Key information. Dave and Javier, a nice idea, but they would never allow it, it would conflict with the clause of my contract stipulating never taking any IP of the premisses and with every other network conduct and antivirus stance. i will get back too you now but my head is lolling and it has been the most prustrating day, so please forgive and catch you toomorrow On 8 January 2013 19:03, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de mailto:bauero...@gmx.de wrote: I generalized to make it read easier but won愒 insist on this simplification used for the sake of illustrating a big, heavy thing that may be intimidating at times, exceed the scope of ones own field of view or just as well be magic thing that mostly goes unnoticed. My primary concern was to point out that there may be conflicts that will more likely show when running into the limits of an existing solution and that it may be surprisingly hard to make people see the benefit of changing things as first and foremost this means having to put in some thought, some work and seeing the own area of comfortable control or personal freedom in danger. This applies to all positions involved, everybody has to refind their new place and not everybody likes this. I also would like to point out that any problem one may run into in a scenario as such may easily found a criticism and that is something where it is tempting to boldly react as if that愀 uncalled for. It takes a strong personality to not take this personal but see the benefit of questioning the current status for the better and be willing to take this to each and everyone involved who may just be fine with how things work and not willing to adapt at all. Which brought me to the Production Team, including the Supervisor. For them, it愀 first of all a problem when all they want you to do is function in a way that makes them deliver what they have promised to a client. Only a few want to realise this ultimately mean responsibility, not just sexy power. Cheers, tim On 08.01.2013 18:14, Eric Turman wrote: Tim: I wouldn't say that *all* pipelines are rigid and unadaptable. If a pipeline is thoughtfully built from the ground up to be flexible and scale in scope of its involvement from project to project, then it it does not have to be gaff-taped, it simply rolls with the needs of a particular style of project. Sebastien: As far as IT and licensing, the more legwork that you can do for you IT guy (proof of license, type of license, download link, etc.) the more that he'll see that you are trying to help him and the more likely that he'll help you back. Just a thought, -=Eric On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com mailto:davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com mailto:davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com mailto:davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, it's so close to the tweak tool, they should give Softimage a nod. This looks great. However, without the rigging integration, it's not very alluring to me. Dave On 1/8/2013 10:45 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: If you're miserable modeling in Maya, I'd suggest using
