Re: [spamdyke-users] rdns-whitelist-file

2007-11-23 Thread Sam Clippinger
You only need to use rdns-whitelist-file to bypass filters for specific 
remote servers.  If those servers aren't being filtered, there's no need 
to use this file.

You cannot list email addresses in the rDNS whitelist file.  It is only 
for reverse DNS names.  If you want to whitelist sender email addresses, 
you should use sender-whitelist-file.
http://www.spamdyke.org/documentation/README.html#WHITELISTING_ADDRESSES
NOTE: Whitelisting sender addresses is a BAD IDEA.  Sender addresses are 
VERY easy to forge and if a spammer forges an address on your whitelist, 
spamdyke won't stop it.

-- Sam Clippinger

night duke wrote:
 So if i want to receive from a domain i will add
  
 thatdomain.com
 and if i want to receive from gw.otherdomain.com
  
 Both of them are correctly added.
  
 And also i can add emails there like [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 Thanks a lot.
  
 Nightduke
 
 
 */Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* escribió:
 
 The file used with rdns-whitelist-file can only contain the reverse
 DNS names of remote servers, not email addresses. See the online
 documentation for full details:
 http://www.spamdyke.org/documentation/README_rdns_file_format.html
 
 -- Sam Clippinger
 
 night duke wrote:
   Hi i wish to know which format must be used in this
   file.
  
   with domains
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
   mydomain.com or
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Which one is the best one?
  
   Thanks a lot.
  
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Re: [spamdyke-users] Rcpt address check

2007-11-23 Thread Sam Clippinger
I don't think those two suggestions are mutually exclusive.  #1 is 
actually more complicated however, since DIR/DOMAIN/USER isn't always 
enough.  vpopmail aliases can look like this:
DIR/DOMAIN/.qmail-USER
If those two don't exist, sometimes a catchall address can exist, 
which looks like this:
DIR/DOMAIN/.qmail-default
However, the difference between a catchall address and a delete 
bounced address is the contents of the .qmail-default file.

That's all for standard vpopmail.  vpopmail can also store its user 
information in a database.  Standard (vanilla) qmail stores its user 
information in a CDB file.  Plesk uses a database.  See how quickly this 
becomes complicated?

-- Sam Clippinger

Davide Bozzelli wrote:
 Sam Clippinger ha scritto:
 Actually, spamdyke already does this.  If qmail rejects the recipient, 
 spamdyke logs the rejection as DENIED_OTHER.  Unfortunately, qmail 
 doesn't check recipients by default, though there are some patches 
 available to add that ability.  Instead, qmail accepts all incoming mail 
 and bounces invalid recipients later.

 I'll get this one added eventually, probably by allowing spamdyke to run 
 an external program that can check the recipient.  That way it could be 
 configured to work with any qmail setup.

   
 Yes this is a must-have feature for spamdyke .
 I suggest to use two approaches:
 
 1) check recipients from a dir tree like $base_dir/$domain/$username 
 (assuming that the recipient address will be splitted in $username and 
 $domain )
 2) check recicpients by executing an external helper which returns 1 (no 
 such user) or 0 (user found)
 
 I think 1) gives the best performance, and 2) the best flexibility
 
 Of course they are mutually exclusive, use 1) or 2) not both .
 
 Have fun,
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Re: [spamdyke-users] Whitelist and gray/greylisting

2007-11-23 Thread Sam Clippinger
Some spam will inevitably get through the graylist filter.  It's not a 
perfect solution but it does stop a lot of spam.  As spammers adopt 
better methods, graylisting will eventually become useless.

-- Sam Clippinger

night duke wrote:
 Well for a strange reason a few emails from spammers are graylisted
 and i will receive emails from them...
  
 How can i remove those domains?How can i check mx feature it's working?
  
 Thanks
  
 Nightduke
 
 
 */Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* escribió:
 
 I think I understand your suggestion now. However, adding flags to keep
 the whitelists from overriding all filters would probably make spamdyke
 so complicated it would be difficult or impossible to install.
 
 Once the new configuration system is in place, you should be able to
 disable the rDNS tests for specific recipients or remote servers as
 needed. If it still doesn't do what you need, we can discuss further
 enhancements.
 
 -- Sam Clippinger
 
 Ton van Rosmalen wrote:
   Hi Sam,
  
   I didn't mean a separate whitelist for each filter.
  
   As it is now some connections are terminated with
 |DENIED_RDNS_MISSING
   or ||DENIED_RDNS_RESOLVE |from valid but misconfigured mailservers.
   I'd like to allow these connections but AFAIK the only option
 available
   is whitelisting them apart from disabling the general rdns checks.
   The same would happen when whitelisting the recipient address.
  
   What I suggested is an option to use graylisting even when a
   whitelist-test succeeded.
   E.g. an option: graylist-when-whitelisted
  
   That way at least some level of protection is available in case
 of abuse
   of a whitelisted address.
  
   Or perhaps I could achieve the same result using:
   no-graylist-dir
   always-graylist-*
   But again, what I read with whitelisting (as it should) in the
 docs is
   and skip all filters if it is found. Skipping all filters I
 interpret
   as also skipping graylisting.
   If I'm wrong please correct me.
  
   When I look at your description of the upcoming addition I could
 create
   the set-up I would like, so we'll leave this as it is.
  
   Should you require some help (testing and/or development) of a
   (pre-)release do not hesitate to contact me.
  
   Ton
  
   Sam Clippinger schreef:
   If I understand you correctly, you want a separate whitelist
 file for
   each filter? That sounds similar to the never-graylist-* and
   always-graylist-* options -- whitelists and blacklists that only
   affect the graylist feature.
  
   Keep in mind, adding white/blacklists for just the graylist feature
   created 7 new options. I'm a little hesitant to repeat that
 effort for
   every filter; spamdyke would gain hundreds of options! Configuring
   spamdyke would become nearly impossible.
  
   I'm currently working on adding a system to allow spamdyke to be
   reconfigured per IP, rDNS, sender and/or recipient. When it's
 ready,
   you should be able to accomplish what you're trying to do by
 creating
   new configuration files with specific names. For example, you
 would be
   able to have a global configuration file that activates all the
 filters,
   then create some local configuration files that deactivate
 some of the
   filters for specific IP addresses or rDNS names or whatever.
  
   Potentially, you (or someone) could then create a control panel
 to allow
   users to edit the filters affecting just their mail (or perhaps
 all mail
   for their domain). Every user could (potentially) have their own
   whitelists, DNS RBLs, etc that are only used when mail is
 delivered to them.
  
   That system should be ready soon, hopefully in the next version.
  
   -- Sam Clippinger
  
   Ton van Rosmalen wrote:
  
   Hi all,
  
   I've been using spamdyke for a couple of weeks now and I'm very
 happy
   with it.
  
   As always customers start questioning us about not receiving
 e-mails
   from certain senders. After checking the logs the conclusion is
 always
   that no rdns is found or that the found name doesn't resolve.
  
   The problem that arises is that our customer start complaining
 about
   this because they can't receive orders etc. For now I've put
 a couple
   of the senders ip-addresses on a whitelist to prevent the
 denial because
   of their misconfiguration. I've also tried to add greylisting
 for the
   domain to provide some degree of anti-spam control.
  
   What I (think I) observe is that because of the whitelisting
 all checks,
   including greylisting, are skipped.
  
   Would it be 

[spamdyke-users] smtp auth fixed...

2007-11-23 Thread night duke
Finally i fixed with some help of Sam Clippinger  my problem with spamdyke and 
smtp-auth...i was unable to use lotus notes and outlook autentication... with 
spamdyke.Let me show how i can i fixed...
   
   
  cat smtp_psa
  service smtp
{
socket_type = stream
protocol= tcp
wait= no
disable = no
user= root
instances   = UNLIMITED
server  = /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env
server_args = -Rt0 /usr/local/bin/spamdyke -f 
/var/qmail/spamdyke/spamdyke.conf /var/q   
mail/bin/relaylock /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd /var/qmail/bin/smtp_auth 
/var/qmail/bin/true /var/qm   ail/bin/cmd5checkpw 
/var/qmail/bin/true

  My spamdyke.conf
   
   
   cat spamdyke.conf
log-level=4
local-domains-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
max-recipients=10
idle-timeout-secs=60
policy-url= http://www.spamhaus.org/
ip-whitelist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/whitelist_ip
greeting-delay-secs=5
reject-missing-sender-mx
tls-certificate-file=/var/qmail/control/servercert.pem
policy-url= http://www.spamhaus.org/
ip-whitelist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/whitelist_ip
check-dnsrbl=bogons.cymru.com
check-dnsrbl=zen.spamhaus.org
check-dnsrbl=bl.spamcop.net
check-dnsrbl=cbl.abuseat.org
check-dnsrbl=sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org
check-dnsrbl=list.dsbl.org
check-dnsrbl=ubl.unsubscore.com
check-dnsrbl=dhcp.tqmcube.com
check-dnsrbl=prc.tqmcube.com
check-dnsrbl=no-more-funn.moensted.dk
check-dnsrbl=sbl.spamhaus.org
check-dnsrbl=pbl.spamhaus.org
check-dnsrbl=spam.tqmcube.com
check-dnsrbl=bl.emailbasura.org
graylist-dir=/var/qmail/graylist
graylist-max-secs=1814400
graylist-min-secs=300
sender-blacklist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/blacklist_senders
smtp-auth-command-encryption=/var/qmail/bin/smtp_auth
smtp-auth-command-encryption=/bin/true
smtp-auth-command-encryption=/var/qmail/bin/cmd5checkpw
smtp-auth-command-encryption= /bin/true
rdns-whitelist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/rdns-whitelist-file
reject-empty-rdns
reject-unresolvable-rdns
reject-ip-in-cc-rdns

   
  Thanks a lot for everyone and especiallt to Clippinger
   
  It's important the order of each line or it' dosen't matter...
   
  Thanks.
   
  Nightduke
   
   
   

   
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Re: [spamdyke-users] Rcpt address check

2007-11-23 Thread night duke
Yes i see how can how can this be complicated...or difficult...
   
  What do you sugguest to me to do?
   
  Thanks
   
  Nightduke
  

Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
  I don't think those two suggestions are mutually exclusive. #1 is 
actually more complicated however, since DIR/DOMAIN/USER isn't always 
enough. vpopmail aliases can look like this:
DIR/DOMAIN/.qmail-USER
If those two don't exist, sometimes a catchall address can exist, 
which looks like this:
DIR/DOMAIN/.qmail-default
However, the difference between a catchall address and a delete 
bounced address is the contents of the .qmail-default file.

That's all for standard vpopmail. vpopmail can also store its user 
information in a database. Standard (vanilla) qmail stores its user 
information in a CDB file. Plesk uses a database. See how quickly this 
becomes complicated?

-- Sam Clippinger

Davide Bozzelli wrote:
 Sam Clippinger ha scritto:
 Actually, spamdyke already does this. If qmail rejects the recipient, 
 spamdyke logs the rejection as DENIED_OTHER. Unfortunately, qmail 
 doesn't check recipients by default, though there are some patches 
 available to add that ability. Instead, qmail accepts all incoming mail 
 and bounces invalid recipients later.

 I'll get this one added eventually, probably by allowing spamdyke to run 
 an external program that can check the recipient. That way it could be 
 configured to work with any qmail setup.

 
 Yes this is a must-have feature for spamdyke .
 I suggest to use two approaches:
 
 1) check recipients from a dir tree like $base_dir/$domain/$username 
 (assuming that the recipient address will be splitted in $username and 
 $domain )
 2) check recicpients by executing an external helper which returns 1 (no 
 such user) or 0 (user found)
 
 I think 1) gives the best performance, and 2) the best flexibility
 
 Of course they are mutually exclusive, use 1) or 2) not both .
 
 Have fun,
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Re: [spamdyke-users] Rcpt address check

2007-11-23 Thread Davide Bozzelli
Sam Clippinger ha scritto:
 Actually, spamdyke already does this.  If qmail rejects the recipient, 
 spamdyke logs the rejection as DENIED_OTHER.  Unfortunately, qmail 
 doesn't check recipients by default, though there are some patches 
 available to add that ability.  Instead, qmail accepts all incoming mail 
 and bounces invalid recipients later.

 I'll get this one added eventually, probably by allowing spamdyke to run 
 an external program that can check the recipient.  That way it could be 
 configured to work with any qmail setup.

   
Yes this is a must-have feature for spamdyke .
I suggest to use two approaches:

1) check recipients from a dir tree like $base_dir/$domain/$username 
(assuming that the recipient address will be splitted in $username and 
$domain )
2) check recicpients by executing an external helper which returns 1 (no 
such user) or 0 (user found)

I think 1) gives the best performance, and 2) the best flexibility

Of course they are mutually exclusive, use 1) or 2) not both .

Have fun,
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[spamdyke-users] statistical data

2007-11-23 Thread Otto Berger

Hi Sam,

first of all i would like to thank you for providing this great software
- it saved on our spam-gateway much cpu-time regarding spamassassin...

I have one request regarding spamdyke statistics:

I'd dont like very much that log-file-scanning method (run by 5 minutes)
to get statistical data.

What about the idea that spamdyke writes a small statistics file with
simple counters (32bit-overflow?) for example.

Then it should be very easy an performance-friendly to generate
rrdtool-related graphs (MRTG, cacti).

Example:

DENIED_RBL_MATCH 985485
DENIED_RHSBL_MATCH 56
DENIED_SENDER_NO_MX 856


i know - spamdyke isnt a deamon, so on every run the stats-file must be
parsed and updated - but i think its a more clean solution as scanning
big logfiles...

what do you think about it?

many regards,

Otto

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 It's possible to make stats of spam with maillog.
 It's easy to do with mrtg?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [spamdyke-users] Whitelist and gray/greylisting

2007-11-23 Thread night duke
Well for a strange reason a few emails from spammers are graylisted
  and i will receive emails from them...
   
  How can i remove those domains?How can i check mx feature it's working?
   
  Thanks
   
  Nightduke
  

Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
  I think I understand your suggestion now. However, adding flags to keep 
the whitelists from overriding all filters would probably make spamdyke 
so complicated it would be difficult or impossible to install.

Once the new configuration system is in place, you should be able to 
disable the rDNS tests for specific recipients or remote servers as 
needed. If it still doesn't do what you need, we can discuss further 
enhancements.

-- Sam Clippinger

Ton van Rosmalen wrote:
 Hi Sam,
 
 I didn't mean a separate whitelist for each filter.
 
 As it is now some connections are terminated with |DENIED_RDNS_MISSING 
 or ||DENIED_RDNS_RESOLVE |from valid but misconfigured mailservers.
 I'd like to allow these connections but AFAIK the only option available 
 is whitelisting them apart from disabling the general rdns checks.
 The same would happen when whitelisting the recipient address.
 
 What I suggested is an option to use graylisting even when a 
 whitelist-test succeeded.
 E.g. an option: graylist-when-whitelisted
 
 That way at least some level of protection is available in case of abuse 
 of a whitelisted address.
 
 Or perhaps I could achieve the same result using:
 no-graylist-dir
 always-graylist-*
 But again, what I read with whitelisting (as it should) in the docs is 
 and skip all filters if it is found. Skipping all filters I interpret 
 as also skipping graylisting.
 If I'm wrong please correct me.
 
 When I look at your description of the upcoming addition I could create 
 the set-up I would like, so we'll leave this as it is.
 
 Should you require some help (testing and/or development) of a 
 (pre-)release do not hesitate to contact me.
 
 Ton
 
 Sam Clippinger schreef:
 If I understand you correctly, you want a separate whitelist file for 
 each filter? That sounds similar to the never-graylist-* and 
 always-graylist-* options -- whitelists and blacklists that only 
 affect the graylist feature.

 Keep in mind, adding white/blacklists for just the graylist feature 
 created 7 new options. I'm a little hesitant to repeat that effort for 
 every filter; spamdyke would gain hundreds of options! Configuring 
 spamdyke would become nearly impossible.

 I'm currently working on adding a system to allow spamdyke to be 
 reconfigured per IP, rDNS, sender and/or recipient. When it's ready, 
 you should be able to accomplish what you're trying to do by creating 
 new configuration files with specific names. For example, you would be 
 able to have a global configuration file that activates all the filters, 
 then create some local configuration files that deactivate some of the 
 filters for specific IP addresses or rDNS names or whatever.

 Potentially, you (or someone) could then create a control panel to allow 
 users to edit the filters affecting just their mail (or perhaps all mail 
 for their domain). Every user could (potentially) have their own 
 whitelists, DNS RBLs, etc that are only used when mail is delivered to them.

 That system should be ready soon, hopefully in the next version.

 -- Sam Clippinger

 Ton van Rosmalen wrote:
 
 Hi all,

 I've been using spamdyke for a couple of weeks now and I'm very happy
 with it.

 As always customers start questioning us about not receiving e-mails
 from certain senders. After checking the logs the conclusion is always
 that no rdns is found or that the found name doesn't resolve.

 The problem that arises is that our customer start complaining about
 this because they can't receive orders etc. For now I've put a couple
 of the senders ip-addresses on a whitelist to prevent the denial because
 of their misconfiguration. I've also tried to add greylisting for the
 domain to provide some degree of anti-spam control.

 What I (think I) observe is that because of the whitelisting all checks,
 including greylisting, are skipped.

 Would it be possible or is it possible to enable a whitelist (ip or
 senderbased) and still get greylisting? I would think adding this option
 shouldn't be to hard and am willing to investigate it myself and develop
 the code for it. Without the option specified everything would remain
 working as it is of course.

 Dumb idea? Nice feature? Let me know what you think.

 Thanks.

 Regards,

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Re: [spamdyke-users] rdns-whitelist-file

2007-11-23 Thread Sam Clippinger
If messages from the other machines are being blocked by spamdyke, add 
them to the rdns-whitelist-file.  If they aren't being blocked, you 
don't need to do anything.

-- Sam Clippinger

night duke wrote:
 Ok but where i must add a localname of a machine from where i want to 
 receive emails from...
  
 Like cron jobs...clamav updates...no more...
  
 Thanks
  
 Nightduke
 
 
 */Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* escribió:
 
 You only need to use rdns-whitelist-file to bypass filters for specific
 remote servers. If those servers aren't being filtered, there's no need
 to use this file.
 
 You cannot list email addresses in the rDNS whitelist file. It is only
 for reverse DNS names. If you want to whitelist sender email addresses,
 you should use sender-whitelist-file.
 http://www.spamdyke.org/documentation/README.html#WHITELISTING_ADDRESSES
 NOTE: Whitelisting sender addresses is a BAD IDEA. Sender addresses are
 VERY easy to forge and if a spammer forges an address on your
 whitelist,
 spamdyke won't stop it.
 
 -- Sam Clippinger
 
 night duke wrote:
   So if i want to receive from a domain i will add
  
   thatdomain.com
   and if i want to receive from gw.otherdomain.com
  
   Both of them are correctly added.
  
   And also i can add emails there like [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
   Thanks a lot.
  
   Nightduke
  
  
   */Sam Clippinger /* escribió:
  
   The file used with rdns-whitelist-file can only contain the reverse
   DNS names of remote servers, not email addresses. See the online
   documentation for full details:
   http://www.spamdyke.org/documentation/README_rdns_file_format.html
  
   -- Sam Clippinger
  
   night duke wrote:
Hi i wish to know which format must be used in this
file.
   
with domains
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or
mydomain.com or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
Which one is the best one?
   
Thanks a lot.
   
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Re: [spamdyke-users] Rcpt address check

2007-11-23 Thread Davide Bozzelli
Sam Clippinger ha scritto:
 I don't think those two suggestions are mutually exclusive.  #1 is 
 actually more complicated however, since DIR/DOMAIN/USER isn't always 
 enough.  vpopmail aliases can look like this:
   DIR/DOMAIN/.qmail-USER
   
That's the point: the DIR tree must be populated by a script which scans 
the system and consider ALL the cases.
For example  the script on 
http://qmail.jms1.net/scripts/mkvalidrcptto.shtml populates the cdb file 
required by the
validrcpto patch .

So my point of view is that spamdyke must only provide the lookup 
mechanism, the job of creation of recipients list
must be taken by an external entity (scripts)

my 2 cents


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