[biofuel] Life on the research farm
x-charset ISO-8859-1Life on the research farm http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040226.wstrauss0226/ BNStory/Front/ By STEPHEN STRAUSSGlobe and Mail Update Thursday, Feb. 26, 2004 Let me fill you this week with images of endlessly ejaculating pigs, endlessly omnivorous chickens and the endlessly bumpy future of GM agriculture. Virtually buried by other news stories last week was the account of Three Genetically Modified Big Pigs who accidentally had been turned into chicken feed. The pigs were part of several strains of animals on a Quebec research farm to which genes have been added in the hopes of creating what you might call pharmaceuticalized sperm. More specifically, one of the pigs carried the genes that produces human follicle- stimulating hormone and another carried a gene for pig follicle-stimulating hormone. These are substances which are given to women and animals to induce them to super-ovulate - that is release a lot of eggs to be used in in vitro fertilization. The third pig carried the gene for EPO, the growth hormone which of late has become notorious for its use by athletes in what is known as blood doping. The idea is to harvest these chemicals from pig's sperm. How much of much sperm can there be, you might wonder? Jean-Francois Huc, recently installed president of TGN Biotech which created the pigs, says you can gather anywhere from 250 to 750 millilitres of sperm several times a week. The harvesting mechanisms are stainless steel, pig-shaped dummies which boars mount and ejaculate into. I don't think you can hit me with any jokes about this I haven't heard, Mr. Huc told me with a little sigh about the boarish milking technology. TGN thinks the fact that you can produce a lot of pigs quickly roughly 30 piglets per sow per year means that it is more efficient to breed porcine bioreactors than use other animals as your living drug-making laboratory. It's also true that if the expression of the drug is only in sperm and that is good because the seminal gland is very isolated more than that of the milk-producing mammary gland from other parts of the body. However good or icky you might find the process, there are also regulations in place which say that never, ever should animals so altered get into the food supply of either animals or humans. But, the week before last they did. Three roughly 200 kilogram sows were accidentally put in the bin of animals to be sent to the rendering plant by a tractor operator. A technician who was supposed to double- check what bodies went where then also goofed. At the renderers the pigs were boiled down and turned into some of the fat and protein raw material of chicken food. Two days later TGN discovered its error and immediately notified the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, which quickly initiated a recall operation. And that produced an interesting first truth. In two days what had been 600 kilograms of pig had been mixed into 7 tonnes of chickenfeed by four mills. By the time that the mistake had been discovered some of the feed had already made it to farms and maybe made it down some chickens' gullets. That is to say, when something enters the food supply it gets spread far and wide very quickly. Secondly, there are two ways of looking at the incident. One is that the system which tries to keep genetically modified pig bioreactors out of the food supply is very good at reacting to an emergency and fixing the problem. The other is that these are very early days in the creation of an animal-based biotechnology industry. This is the second time in two years that pigs have accidentally entered the animal feed food chain. We don't want this to happen. Not I daresay because these particular animals who after all weren't boars and weren't expressing any of the pharmaceuticals in their bodies necessarily posed a health threat to chickens who are renowned for eating everything. Rather, in what looks increasingly like a future in which there will be food agriculture and non-food agriculture, for general peace of mind we have to make sure that we absolutely separate the two end points of dead animal. Which brings me to a third realization. What, you may wonder, would ordinarily have happened to TGN's Three Big Pigs? Incineration, says Mr. Huc tartly. That for sure gets rid of the animals, but it also destroys what has been up to now a gruesome, but virtuous, cycle of animal use. If we are interested in respecting the spirit of recycling, it is better to turn animals into other things we use rather than so much smoke and ash. That is, in general, rendering is a good thing. If the long-term answer is to make something good out of the corpses of GM animals, the Toronto-based Biox Corporation may soon present an interesting option. Using a process developed at the University of Toronto, later this year the company will start producing biodiesel fuel
[biofuel] homebrew education tour?
I'm flirting with the idea of doing a Biodiesel Homebrew Education tour this summer. It's still in the 'whim' stage and Im not completely committed to doing this- I might try and find a real job instead, or intensify my search for a sailboat, or something similar that might take up my summer instead or make it impossible to go. But I'm putting out feelers to see if it's possible to organize a tour on this short notice. What: The tour would be me with a pickup truck full of homebrew equipment, and possibly one or two of my Bay Area cohorts showing up to some of the stops as well. I can do anything from 2-hour intros to biodiesel for the general public, to five-day Intensive trainings. The most common class I teach currently, is a 7 or 8-hour comprehensive class. Most of the details of that class and the syllabus were in another email I sent here a few days ago. I would also be interested in taking my setup to festivals, demonstrations, or fairs, with local people who are already doing biodiesel work. I've got lots of literature and 'tabling' stuff for the general public. How: For a longer class, the deal would be: you or your organization: find a location that can hold 10-30 people, with indoor and outdoor areas (ie there's usually indoor lecture and 'lab' and also outdoor full-scale equipment demo. Quite often this is just somebody's back yard, driveway, or the parking lot of a business). I'd like to have access to running water and 115V electric, though it could be done without the grid electricity. me: I've got all the equipment to do the classes, any literature needed, and all the supplies including flyers and promotional material. where: I'm thinking of going to the Midwest Renewable Energy Fair in Wisconsin in late June, and I am helping with a class at Solar Energy International in the end of July. I'm also considering going to Tucson or further (Albuquerque) in late spring as well, as a separate trip. If I do this tour I will also go 'home' to North Carolina for a few weeks at the end of the summer. These places are all over the map and one of these stops lend themselves well to a logical itinerary. so: let me know offlist if you've got an interest in organizing a stop if I can come to your area, or if there are interesting events that I could 'table' at or otherwise promote biodiesel at (if I do decide to go on tour, that is). my address is wrench at tinkersworkshop dot org I am also very much interested in meeting people who are actively forming small commercial biodiesel production businesses, to talk about small producer EPA options and small producer technologies. Thanks! mark Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] making biodiesel
x-charset ISO-8859-1does anyone know of people making there own biodiesel in central virgina? if so i would like to contact them Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
[biofuel] Re: Gasoline supplies likely to shrink, prices rise
x-charset ISO-8859-1Gas will be hitting $3 soon, probably this year... --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some recent USA Today articles. Overall, relatively speaking, I like their reporting on some of these issues: http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2004-02-25-gasprices_x.htm A quote: Average gasoline prices in California and Hawaii have topped $2 for a gallon of unleaded regular, and Nevada is close at $1.968, AAA said Wednesday. AAA said regular averaged $1.681 nationwide, up 7.9 cents the last month. That's 5.6 cents less than the record average of $1.737 reported last Aug. 30. EIA, using different data, lists the record as $1.747 last Aug. 25. So, there are sometimes some discrepancies (though here they are small) in how the national retail average is calculated. Also of interest: Gas would have to average $2.89 to surpass the inflation-adjusted record of $1.417 in 1981. An article here about cost-benefit analysis for vehicle safety. I thought there was a lack of mention of how vehicles interact with each other, and traffic engineering issues, and crowding issues, but anyway: http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2004-02-25-car-rules_x.htm Governor Schwarzenneger's solution. Somehow seems very Teutonic of him, this interest in Hydrogen. But more importantly, aside from that, I just think it's not all there: http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/2004-02-26-hydrogen- highway_x.htm I can say that I know that activists have tried to give input on a wide variety of other solutions, so he has either carefully considered these solutions and set them aside, or simply blown them off. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
Re: [biofuel] Is it really free???
It is free in a way, that you will feel free when you make your own fuel, not depending on oilprices and so on, but of course that is not what you mean. Well, it is not completely free, but very cheap indead. Over here, my costs are about 0,10 per liter biodiesel for the chemicals I need. Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole Netherlands The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: bearforu2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 8:30 PM Subject: [biofuel] Is it really free??? People talk that it they can run there car for free on biofuel, but when you have to buy use toxic chemicals like lye etc, and spend hours to make just a small amount, is it really free? I am a supporter of biofuel, but i have not made 100% biodiesel.These are questions that people ask me and i would like to see what your answers are. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Scientists use bacteria to turn sewage into electricity
Thanks, this is really cool. On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 18:08:21 -, you wrote: Scientists use bacteria to turn sewage into electricity Penn State scientists use bacteria to turn sewage into electricity http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04056/277266.stm news sources Scientists and Bush: When science was thwarted before..iht.com February 24 2004 http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/02/24/1077594826917.html Pentagon downplays report on climate change that it commissioned http://www.terradaily.com/2004/040224205552.9h8gyjrq.html Add Your Site To The Database http://www.alternate-energy.net/add04.html Senators urged to fight energy bill http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2004/02/26/news/top/news01.txt Alternative Energy Webring http://scripts.cgispy.com/webring/webring.cgi?id=tallex123456 Hydrogen fuel cash siphoned for 'pork' http://www.mcall.com/news/local/allentown/all- a1_5hydrogenfeb24,0,6555154.story?coll=all-newslocalallentown-hed It's Time For An Oil Change http://www.plastic.com/article.html;sid=04/02/25/04264971 Resource Files http://www.alternate-energy.net/pdf03.html Microbe fuel cells can clean dirty water http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm? newsid=11016450BRD=1713PAG=740dept_id=331520rfi=6 Fuel cell news http://www.alternate-energy.net/fuelcellnews02.html America's new coal rush http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0226/p01s04-sten.html Alternative Energy System Calculators http://www.alternate-energy.net/calculatesystem03.html Sustainable Development News http://www.alternate-energy.net/sustainabledevelopmentnews03.html Alternative Energy News http://www.alternate-energy.net/news03-25.html Alternative Energy Stock News http://www.alternate-energy.net/stocks03.html Alternate Energy Resource network http://www.alternate-energy.net Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] OT: Start Now To Make Your House More Energy Efficient
http://realestate.yahoo.com/re/story.html?s=n/realestate/real/20040226/20040226801 Thought Hakan and others might be interested in this. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] biodiesel
x-charset ISO-8859-1 just select the oil. do transesteriffication in small scale if it is coming good do it in a bulk. --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Hello Raul hello all: I've been assigned a project on biodiesel for college but i have no idea where to start. can anyone help me? Start here: Where do I start? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start Also see the two links at the bottom of each message, these: Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ The first is the premier source of small-scale biofuels information on the Web. The second is a treasure house of information on all aspects of biofuels, especially biodiesel - it contains 33,000 messages over the last four years, many of them from leaders in the field worldwide. A message yesterday from another list member said this: Another dumb question... Questions are never dumb. So please feel free to ask. Best wishes Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. Go to: http://in.insurance.yahoo.com/licspecial/index.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
[biofuel] Re: thanks you
hello all: Thanks to everyone for the info, ill make sure to keep you all in touch with how much progress i make. - Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] testing for glycerol using borax
Hi All (Keith, Alecs, Mike)~ I was searching through the archives and ran across a message (#4005) that proposed a bucket test for glycerol content of home brew biodiesel using borax. Has anyone experimented with this yet or come up with a better backyard test? From Michael Aereboe's original post: WHEN GLYCERINE IS MIXED WITH BORAX AND INTRODUCED INTO A BUNSEN BURNER FLAME, A GREEN TINGED FLAME IS PRODUCED. I WILL TRY THIS SHORTLY. bORAX IS reported SOLUBLE 1 : 1 IN GLYCERINE, AND INSOLUBLE IN ALCOHOL, SO IF THERE IS GLYCERINE IN THE BD ester, it will dissolve an equal mass of borax and a green flame should be found on burning the BD? If this works then I suppose a crude assay would be to add an known excess borax into a measured volume BD, stir till as much as will dissolve has gone into solution, weigh the balance of insoluble borax (filter borax out) and calculate approx glycerine by difference etc. These are my thoughts looking at the ID who knows if it will work, i'll get around to trying with time. I suppose to validate this crude method say 0.500g and 2.000 g pure glycerine could be mixed into good glycerine to compare by difference if the determination is linear? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] need data on EV mileage
x-charset ISO-8859-1Hello, does anyone have the data (or a www link) of the midsize electric vehicle mileage (midsize beeing Toyota Prius sized, or ~1000kg weight excluding battery weight)? I want to know, how much kWh/100km do they use (city mode/highway mode). Is the 15-20kWh/100km the good guess? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Quality?
Hi Todd Hellow Keith, Yup. Sometimes biodiesel clouds right back up after it's cooled down. Used to see this when we sun dried fuel. Every time the sun went down the fuel clouded back up. I have a feeling that it quickly absorbed as much water from the cooler air upon sunset as it dispersed in the heat of the day. I think so. Seems that the elevated heat tends to drive much of the moisture into the ambient air if done in a well vented tank or container. A little bit settles out, but more of the former. I agree, much more evaporation than settling. Camillo Holecek told us it would always absorb 1,200 ppm of water, though the standards require less than 500 (US), or less than 200 even in one case (France). He said Energia produces biodiesel with 50ppm water, but by the time you put it in your tank it'll have 1,200 anyway. If I've got it right, that 1,200 ppm won't make it cloudy, it'll still be clear, or should be, and the dissolved water won't do any harm, maybe even some good. The cloudiness is free water content, not dissolved, and I think that will do harm. The Fuel Injection Equipment Manufacturers (Bosch et al) also think so. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_FIEM.html FIEM report (They don't like dissolved water either, but considering all the research on using fuel-water emulsions and its benefits, maybe they're over-reacting with this. ) The main industry concern seems to be the dreaded oxidation and bacterial attack, giving rise to the even more dreaded acid content. I guess what happens is that the Big Guys who belong to the NBB and such send off their one-off carefully prepared test sample (sample of what? - not necessarily of normal production it seems) in a thoroughly dewatered state and in a tightly sealed container, whereupon it's duly found to have less than 500ppm water content, and commercial biodiesel quality is thus assured, hey. Meanwhile self-same Big Guys are dumping successive loads of hopelessly sub-spec fuel on California and wrecking people's motors and so on, and nor NBB nor EPA even notices - the homebrew crowd has to clean up the mess behind them, contrary to industry myth, which persists in having it the other way round (but splutters helplessly when asked for examples). The NBB, lost in apparent oblivion, then proudly conducts delegates on a tour of said iffy Big Guy's plant which produces the bad brew as the highlight of their annual biodiesel bun-fight. On the other hand, Graham Noyes of World Energy said the sub-spec commercial brew they distributed (do they take turns at it or what?) had passed the ASTM tests, but not when, after complaints, they sent it to another laboratory for testing, where it failed. This sounds suspiciously as if the lab tests are just a rubber-stamp anyway, sans actual testing (much cheaper that way, and it sure brings in the business). IF you're a Big Guy, that is. But if you're a small guy, you can forget about getting registered as on on-road fuel producer no matter how good your fuel might be - they'll keep moving the goalposts, even in defiance of their own rules, finally (?) claiming that your small-scale brew will have to meet not the ASTM biodiesel spec, but the ASTM petroleum diesel spec. And I guess if we ever managed to do that they'd shake their heads sagely and say it just isn't purified enough to power Three Mile Island on, or maybe the Starship Enterprise. I suppose you could take all this BS and generate more than enough methane with it to pre-heat your WVO with, if not run Three Mile Island. Anyway, until they start changing the rules for off-road use, and for individuals' own use, and enforce it, there are ways round all this. Though Australia seems to be doing just that. Amazing how blatant our purported leaders have become about demonstrating whose pockets they're in, I wonder who or what might have encouraged them to be so in-your-face about it - NOT! **OFF-TOPIC!** LOL! Anyway anyway, to go back to the beginning, we've still got some of the first biodiesel we ever made here, four or five years ago or whenever it was. No special storage, it's been in all sorts of weather and conditions, and there's nothing wrong with it at all, still perfectly good. Which leaves me to wonder what all the fuss is about. Get your fuel clear so it stays clear, whether by settling, leaving it in the sun or heating it, then put it in your motor and go, and you'll be a happy biodieseler. regards Keith Todd Swearingnen - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Quality? Why heat it ? Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole Netherlands Right Peter - no need, unless you're in a hurry. Letting it settle until it's clear is fine. 110 deg C (230 F) is at any rate completely unnecessary, waste of energy. Some people do 60 deg C
Re: [biofuel] Newbie Q - Can i use 50/50
bearforu2 wrote: Can i just use 50% petro diesel and 50% waste food oil without any processing, aside from filtering the food oil that is? I have a 6.2L gm diesel. Thanks It'll probably work, but for how long? I don't think anybody can tell you that, other than opinions and anecdotal evidence. Diesels are tough, you can burn almost anything in them for a while, but to say it works would mean having a broad basis of testing, both lab and on-road, covering all eventualities, all types of motors, and millions of miles, plus, in this case, a wide range of blend ratios, and the various types and grades of WVO likely to be used. It doesn't exist, and I doubt it ever will. So maybe you'll find it works for 20,000 miles so far and no problems, great - but 20,000 miles is nothing in the life of a diesel motor. When you've done 200,000 or 300,000 miles or more and still no problems you'll be getting somewhere, if you ever get that far - but only for that motor, using that WVO, in those conditions. I think a lot of people would tell you Don't do it and give you good reasons why not, including that it'll still be too viscous, especially at start-up, putting a strain on the whole injection system, and shutting down without flushing it will cause coking. More information here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html Straight vegetable oil as diesel fuel http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#2svo Make your own biodiesel Three choices 1. Mixing it 2. Straight vegetable oil 3. Biodiesel Can i use half petrol diesel and half food waste oil? do i need to mix them first? I would filter the biowaste of course. The pure biodiesel seems like a lot of work and the use of a lot of toxic chemical to make enough to drive on. There are a great many people who wouldn't agree with that, from their own experience. It's not a lot of work, the (aarghhh) toxic chemicals are nothing you don't find in supermarkets and people's homes anyway. Sure, lye and methanol are toxic, but using them to make biodiesel is safe, as long as you're sensible and use good information. There's everything you need to know at the Journey to Forever Biodiesel section. You won't find much there by way of a special section dealing with safety because safety's built in all along, it's always considered in everything, and has been from the start. Safe methods and safe equipment have developed very much over the last few years since the bad old days of open processors. Try it, you'll be fine. And so will your motor. See the Make your own biodiesel link above. Best wishes Keith Thanks Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Quality?
Keith Addison wrote: Hi Todd Hellow Keith, Yup. Sometimes biodiesel clouds right back up after it's cooled down. Used to see this when we sun dried fuel. Every time the sun went down the fuel clouded back up. I have a feeling that it quickly absorbed as much water from the cooler air upon sunset as it dispersed in the heat of the day. I think so. My guess is that the amount of moisture in the biodiesel doesn't change as much as its solubility (as a function of temperature) hence the same amount of water will make cool biodiesel look cloudy, whereas it will be clear when warmer, to do complete solubility. -- -- Bob Allen,http://ozarker.org/bob -- - The modern conservative is engaged in one of Man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness JKG [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Honda fuel cell over comes cold
x-charset ISO-8859-1Honda fuel cell overcomes the cold http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nb20040227a9.htm Carmakers divided over time line for hydrogen fuel http://www.mcall.com/business/local/all-hydrocarfeb27,0,1550078.story? coll=all-businesslocal-hed Hydrogen highway by 2010 says California official http://www.enn.com/news/2004-02-27/s_13532.asp resources and news sources A Better Way to Get From Here to There: A Commentary on the Hydrogen Economy and a Proposal for an Alternative Strategy http://www.newrules.org/electricity/betterway.html Add Your Site To The Database http://www.alternate-energy.net/add04.html Veggie Van Gogh..new sites added Alternative Energy Webring http://scripts.cgispy.com/webring/webring.cgi?id=tallex123456 Getting hydrogen to fuel cell vehicles: An industry roundtable discussion http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/2/prwebxml107050.php It's Time For An Oil Change http://www.plastic.com/article.html;sid=04/02/25/04264971 Storm over Pentagon climate scenario http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4379905/ Resource Files http://www.alternate-energy.net/pdf03.html Fuel cell news http://www.alternate-energy.net/fuelcellnews02.html Alternative Energy System Calculators http://www.alternate-energy.net/calculatesystem03.html Sustainable Development News http://www.alternate-energy.net/sustainabledevelopmentnews03.html Alternative Energy News http://www.alternate-energy.net/news03-25.html Alternative Energy Stock News http://www.alternate-energy.net/stocks03.html Alternate Energy Resource network http://www.alternate-energy.net Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
[biofuel] Interview With Stephen Kinzer, Author Of All The Shah's Men
http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/kinzerinterview.html 17 Corporate Crime Reporter 32(10), August 11, 2003 Interview With Stephen Kinzer, Author Of All The Shah's Men: An American Coup And The Roots Of Middle East Terror, Chicago, Illinois Fifty years ago this month, the United States, at the request of Winston Churchill, engineered a coup of the democratically elected leader of Iran, Mohammed Mossadegh. Mossadegh had come to power on the promise of nationalizing the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company -- now British Petroleum. The coup, dubbed Operation Ajax, led to a brutal 25-year rule of the Shah. In All the Shah's Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror (Wiley, 2003), New York Times reporter Stephen Kinzer documents Mossadegh's fateful run-in with Anglo-Iranian and recounts the coup that ousted Mossadegh from power. It is not far-fetched to draw a line from Operation Ajax through the Shah's repressive regime and the Islamic revolution to the fireballs that engulfed the World Trade Center in New York, Kinzer writes. We interviewed Kinzer on August 5, 2003. CCR: What university did you graduate from and what have you been doing since? KINZER: I went to Boston University and studied history there. I graduated in 1973. I had fantasies of becoming a historian. But when I began to take those fantasies seriously, I realized what most historians do for a living -- they teach in universities. I decided I didn't want to spend a lifetime in academia, so I transferred my ambitions to journalism. I've always seen myself as a person who wanted to get a front row view of history and write its first draft. I became a free-lance journalist after leaving college. I was a journalism professor. I was a columnist. Finally, I became Latin American correspondent for the Boston Globe. In January 1983, I was hired by the New York Times. During my 20 years at the New York Times, I've had three extended foreign assignments. In these assignments, I've been able to cover three of the major developments in world history during that period. In the 1980s, I was posted in Nicaragua and covered war and social upheaval in Central America. That was really the last gasp of Marxist-based Third World revolution. That was a fascinating historical chapter to observe first hand. From Central America, I was transferred to Berlin, where I covered the unification of Germany of the emergence of post-Communist Europe, including wars in the former Yugoslavia. In 1996, I became the first New York Times bureau chief in Istanbul. There, I covered not only Turkey, but eight other countries that had just come into existence. Those were the countries of Central Asia and the Caucuses. I covered the emergence of an entirely unknown region of the world. That was just as fascinating an experience as the previous two. I've been very lucky to have had three long foreign assignments in places where history was being made. CCR: You are also the co-author of Bitter Fruit: The Story of the American Coup in Guatemala. You are drawn to American coups. Why? KINZER: It is interesting that I've now written books about the first two CIA coups. Sometimes I imagine half seriously that this could be a boxed set of CIA coups of the 1950s. There are several reasons for my interest. Both Guatemala and Iran are fascinating countries independent of American intervention. They are both places I've really enjoyed getting to know. I see these coups not just as American operations, but as operations that took place in countries themselves have very interesting stories that they haven't been able to tell the world. In addition to having had profound and horrible impacts on the countries where they took place, these coups also had important roles in shaping American policy. During the early 1950s, a template was formed by the Eisenhower Administration. This was when the United States embraced the culture of covert action. I don't think that biographers of Eisenhower have focused sufficiently on this very important development that took place during his administration. The coups in Guatemala and Iran both seemed successful at first, but led to terrible long term consequences, many of which didn't become clear until long after Eisenhower had left office and passed away. They teach us a lesson that I believe is very current , which is that intervening in the political processes of foreign countries can produce unintended and unimagined consequences that can be disastrous not just for the people of those countries, but for whole regions, and even for the United States itself. CCR: Does it matter if we do it surreptitiously, as in Guatemala and Iran, or if we just go in and throw in the military, as in Iraq? KINZER: In the 1950s, the CIA became enamored of covert action because it was thought of being a low-cost, clean way of overthrowing a government. It was also thought that American involvement
[biofuel] Environmental Group Depicts Ford's Chief as Pinocchio
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/26/business/media/26adco.html?ex=107854 9200en=3ea26659cecd92a3ei=5040partner=MOREOVER Environmental Group Depicts Ford's Chief as Pinocchio By FARA WARNER Published: February 26, 2004 Bluewater Network says it will not back down from its advertising campaign criticizing Ford. STUNG by the depiction of its chairman and chief executive as Pinocchio in an advertisement, the Ford Motor Company has sent a cease-and-desist letter to an environmental group responsible for the ad. Ford is demanding that the group, Bluewater Network, which is based in San Francisco, stop unlawful conduct in a print and Internet campaign that attacks Ford's environmental policies. Bluewater began running an ad in national and college publications earlier this month that said William Clay Ford Jr., the company's chairman and chief executive, had failed to make good on a promise the company made in 2000 to increase the fuel efficiency of its sport utility vehicles 25 percent by 2005. The ad features a line drawing of Mr. Ford with an extra-long nose and the words: Bill Ford Jr. or Pinocchio? Don't buy his environmental rhetoric. Don't buy his cars. Ford's letter, sent by the law firm Kirkland Ellis in Washington, says that Bluewater Network's campaign violates several laws. The company contends that Bluewater is unlawfully using Ford's blue oval trademark on its Web site and that Bluewater has orchestrated a telephone call-in campaign to Mr. Ford's office that could be considered harassment. The director of Bluewater, Russell Long, said that the group had provided Mr. Ford's number to its organizers on college campuses but that it was given only to individuals who wanted to express their opinions and was never printed or posted on the group's Web site. The letter does not demand that the group stop its campaign, and a Ford spokesman, Jim Vella, said the company understood the right of groups to make their opinions known. But the letter does make clear what the company's position is on the caricature of Mr. Ford. Your personal attacks on Mr. Ford are gratuitous and offensive, well beyond the scope of responsible and civil public dialogue, and strong evidence that you made the misrepresentations with malice, the letter reads. We know you understand the seriousness of falsely and maliciously maligning the men and women of Ford Motor Company. Mr. Long said that he had discussed the letter with his lawyers and would continue with the campaign despite what he called Ford's intimidation tactics. This recent dispute highlights the divide between environmental groups and Mr. Ford, whom they once considered an ally. It also reflects a growing difference of opinion among environmental groups on what tactics will work to force the industry to build cleaner and more fuel efficient vehicles. In 2000, Mr. Ford pledged that the company, which was founded by his great-grandfather, would increase the fuel economy of its sport utility vehicles by 25 percent over five years. General Motors and DaimlerChrysler made the same pledge soon afterward. When Bill Ford made his announcement, it was a golden moment, Mr. Long said. We had found a single company willing to be a change agent. But Mr. Long said that after three years Mr. Ford had done little to make good on his promise and had undermined legislation drafted by Senators John McCain, Republican of Arizona, and John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, that would have doubled the industry's overall fuel economy to 36 miles a gallon by 2015. Federal regulations require the auto industry to meet a corporate average fuel economy of 27.5 miles a gallon for its cars and 20.7 miles a gallon for its light trucks. Under revised regulations, light trucks must meet a standard of 22.2 miles a gallon by the 2007 model year. Ford acknowledged in its corporate citizenship report last July that it had not met its promise to increase the fuel efficiency of its S.U.V.'s by 25 percent. In a letter included in the report, Mr. Ford wrote that the company was unable to make the investments in technologies needed to meet his goal. Since he became both chairman and chief executive in 2001, the company has grappled with declining revenue and market share. But the company did note that the fuel efficiency of its S.U.V. fleet increased 5.2 percent in 2003; in 2002, its sport utilities were 8.4 percent more efficient than those in 2000. The company also points to the introduction of a hybrid electric version of the Ford Escape, a small S.U.V., as a sign that it continues to work on environmental initiatives. Despite those explanations, several environmental groups have become disenchanted with the man and company they once thought would help compel Congress to increase fuel-economy regulations, which remained virtually unchanged through the 1990's. They are, however, taking different, less adversarial tactics than
