Re: [Talk-us] Updating opening_hours for COVID-19.

[Joseph Eisenberg]

That's great, if you are committed to going back and changing all the
opening_hours again in a month or two.

But it could be a bad idea in the long term if there is no follow-up
to return the hours to the regular ones afterward.

- Joseph Eisenberg

On 3/14/20, Eric Christensen via Talk-us  wrote:
> I've been updating the opening_hours for businesses and services as I
> hear about them closing or changing their hours of operation for
> COVID-19.  I'm also adding a note in the description with any
> information the source is providing.
>
> Seems like a good idea to keep people updated to what's open and what's not.
>
> I wonder if anyone else is also doing this as well?
>
> --Eric
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[OSM-talk-ie] Defaced townlands

[Colm Moore]

Hi,

Barberstown townland in west Dublin is missing and the "Hansfield or 
Phibblestown" and Barnhill townland boundaries are incorrect. I've started a 
map note here https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2120283 Could someone have a 
look at them?

Separately, Lambay Island https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3546834 and 
Irelands Eye https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4603600 need to be added to 
the Fingal council area and Dublin County.

Is there a way to lock townlands so that only people who know about / 
appreciate townlands can't edit them?

Colm

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Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

[Peter Neale via Talk-GB]

List Moderators,
Please remove @Daniel Holsey from this list.  His contribution will not be 
missed.
Regards,Peter
On Friday, 13 March 2020, 21:31:57 GMT, Daniel Holsey  
wrote:  
 
 Your A Nonce Mate
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 21:03, BD  wrote:

 Hi,

I quite like the idea of adding free water refill places to the OSM. One idea 
which could not only benefit the European Water Project but OSM as a whole is 
to add a tick box on the onosm.org. I could read something like "We do provide 
free water refills" - link to European Water Project. If we would promote the 
onosm.org a bit more not only numbers of businesses aware of/on OSM would 
increase, + people aware of Water Project. Water Project volunteers (if there 
are any) could direct businesses to onosm.org for ease of adding info, this way 
we would "kill two birds with one stone" - as we say where I come from.

cheers,
dzidek23


 
  
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Message: 1Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:12:15 +0100From: Colin Smale 
To: Daniel Holsey Cc: European 
Water Project 
,talk-gb@openstreetmap.orgSubject: Re: 
[Talk-GB] European Water Project - IntroductionMessage-ID: 
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Daniel, that is completely uncalled for. If you can't live and let live,take 
your own advice and go procreate somewhere else. 
On 2020-03-13 12:27, Daniel Holsey wrote:

Fuck Off 
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 10:31, European Water Project 
 wrote: 
Hello, 
My name is Stuart Rapoport. This my first message on the UK OSM forum, so I 
decided to give an introduction to our project before jumping into the thread 
regarding the tag drinking_water:refill = yes.  
A small group of us have recently started a project called European Water 
Project. Our project is 100% collaborative and 100% open data, powered by OSM 
and wikidata. Our goal is to help empower individuals to reduce single use 
waste in their lives. With the help of many (including OSM members in Italy, 
Switzerland, France, and Spain), we have written a set of instructions 
available in 7 languages for adding new water fountains to OSM and as well as 
instructions on how to add photos to Wikimedia Commons and link them back :  
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CH/Project/European_Water_Project 
We have developed a Progressive Web Application which allows individuals to 
find nearby locations where they can refill their sustainable water bottle for 
free anywhere in Europe.We strive to contribute to the builiding of a 
collaborative network of foutains, cafes, restaurants and other establishments 
which are willing to allow individuals to fill up their water bottle as part of 
the battle agains single-use waste.  There are currently over 235,000 fountains 
and 70 cafés available on the App. 
Our web App is available directly at https://europeanwaterproject.org  
(installation instructions are in the hamburger menu).  
A description of the project and the project genesis : 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1f0dts-RErPepgrEnddSAOh1rDqpxMYC3 
Best regards,
Stuart Rapoport
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I completely agree with Colin
On 13/03/2020 12:12, Colin Smale wrote:

Daniel, that is completely uncalled for. If you can't live and let live, take 
your own advice and go procreate somewhere else.

On 2020-03-13 12:27, Daniel Holsey wrote:

Fuck Off
On Fri

Re: [Talk-br] Conversão em via somente para ônibus

[Fernando Trebien]

Se a faixa não for separada do trânsito dos demais veículos (o que não
é a situação desse caso específico), bastaria adicionar à relação de
restrição de conversão a etiqueta except=bus, ou except=psv se todos
os veículos de transporte público puderem fazer a conversão,
incluindo, por exemplo, táxis e microônibus.

Neste caso específico, no bairro Santa Helena em Vila Velha, ES, a
"faixa" de ônibus é separada dos carros por uma faixa zebrada, que
normalmente é entendida como separador de vias no OSM no Brasil. Sendo
assim, a faixa dos ônibus é considerada um pista exclusiva para ônibus
e é mapeada como uma linha separada paralela com highway=service +
service=driveway + access=no + bus=designated ao invés de ser
representada pela etiqueta busway:left=lane na linha da via principal.
Mapeando como linha separada, você pode adicionar a restrição de
conversão somente na linha da via principal e não adicionar a
restrição à linha da pista exclusiva para ônibus.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 5:12 PM Paulo Vianna  wrote:
>
> Olá pessoal, boa tarde.
>
> Estou usando o tipo de rota carro pra tentar traçar uma rota de ônibus, porém 
> existe uma conversão que não é permitido para carro, somente ônibus. O que 
> devo fazer no Open Street? Devo definir a rota do ônibus como se fosse uma 
> rota de carro?
>
> O traçado em vermelho é a rota utilizada para carro. O traçado em verde foi 
> um demonstração para onde deveria passar o ônibus.
>
> http://www.codelogic.com.br/arquivo/via_onibus_verde.png
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[Talk-GB] geomob podcast

[chilton steve via Talk-GB]

Have you found the excellent geomob podcast yet? If not, it is worth checking 
it out.

This week's episode showcases the cartographic career of Steve Chilton, and 
more importantly his work with and for the OpenStreetMap project over many 
years, including his thoughts on the good, and not so good, aspects of OSM. 
[And will he have got a mention in for his fell running books?!]

Episode at: https://thegeomob.com/podcast/episode-6

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Re: [Talk-it] Covid-19 e geolocalizzazione

[Fra Mauro]

A mio avviso si sta andando fuori dal tema della mailing list.
Comunque le "metodiche" si applicano in base alle leggi dello Stato, tra cui la 
GDPR.

Le leggi dello Stato cinese permettono di usare le app che accedono al social 
cinese per tracciare i contatti. OBBLIGANO a avere l'app per spostarsi, 
OBBLIGANO ad essere iscritti a quel social. 
Inoltre c'è il piccolo particolare che non è noto se i blocchi agli spostamenti 
sono solamente per chi è un possibile contatto o anche per chi è un possibile 
oppositore politico, come qualche giornale ha raccontato.
Le leggi dello Stato italiano questo non lo permettono. 

Inoltre quelli che intervistano i pazienti e i contatti non sono membri 
dell'intelligence. Almeno in Italia sono medici delle ASL, per la precisione 
dei Dipartimenti di igiene e prevenzione.

Il 13 Marzo 2020 22:38:30 CET, Cascafico Giovanni  ha 
scritto:
>IMHO il problema per noi non è il GDPR, ma che la metodica usata in
>Corea del Sud e Cina non sia ancora stata applicata. Presumo che la
>Corea sia più smartphonizzata di noi e che l'autoschedatura via app
>possa perciò essere un sistema efficace di contenimento. D'altra pare
>in Cina hanno sguinzagliato migliaia di intervistatori che, porta a
>porta, intervistavano i contagiati per ricostruire sistematicamente la
>rete dei contatti.
>
>Spero che oltre agli aiuti arrivati recentemente dalla Cina, ci sia
>anche dell'inteligence.
>
>Il giorno ven 13 mar 2020 alle ore 15:14 Alessandro Oggioni
> ha scritto:
>>
>> Grazie del messaggio ma non riesco a capire (non ho trovato altre
>informazioni) circa la struttura del sistema di informazioni
>georiferite
>>
>> Avete qualche info in più. Forse da li che si riesce a capire se
>ricade in regole di GDPR
>>
>> Ale
>>
>> > On 13 Mar 2020, at 14:37, Maurizio Napolitano 
>wrote:
>> >
>> > temo che per GDPR questo non si possa fare da noi
>> > Ne parlano nel thread?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:36 PM Cascafico Giovanni
> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Segnalo queste [1] considerazioni molto importanti.
>> >> Stralcio:
>> >> "Il Korean Center for Disease Control (KCDC) ha organizzato un
>formidabile sistema di raccolta di informazioni geolocalizzate per il
>tracciamento dei contatti dei contagiati.
>> >> I potenziali contagiati e i viaggiatori che entrano nel paese
>devono scaricare una app per riportare volontariamente ogni giorno
>eventuali sintomi e la propria posizione."
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Re: [Talk-bo] Análisis Automatizado de la calidad de Rutas Transporte Público Cochabamba

[Marco Antonio Frias]

On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 21:34, Christoph Hanser
 wrote:
>
> Bueno que lo has visto, Marco!

Hola Chirstoph!

> Le preguntaba si puede analizar las ciudades donde corre Trufi app 
> (Cochabamba, Duitama, Accra, Addis Ababa). Por eso ToniE ha creado esas 
> páginas.
> So nosotros queremos un analisis tb de otros ciudades, le podemos preguntar.

La Ciudad de La Paz, añadieron el año pasado muchas rutas y vendría
bien un análisis

abrazos,

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Re: [talk-cz] PID import dat

[Marián Kyral]

Ahoj,

rád bych se veřejné dopravě u nás ve městě věnoval více, ale zmatky ohledně
tagování mě od toho odrazují. Proti plnému přijetí verze 2 existuje dost
zásadní odpor a řešit by to možná mohla verze 3, která má spojit výhody obou
schémat. Bohužel je stále ve fázi návhu. Viz poslední weekly.




Doposud jsem všechno tagoval dle verze 2, ale nezobrazuje se to pak na mapě
a zřejmě to pak stejně budu muset předělat, takže zatím spíše vyčkávám.




A do editací linek se už vůbec nehrnu. Tam je situace s tagováním podobná a
navíc bych si tu editaci v josm představoval trochu více grafickou. Tedy
zvýraznění linky na mapě a jednoduché přidávání a odebírání cest do relace
jedním kliknutím. Samozřejmě s podporou jednoduchého rozdělení cesty během
této editace. Možná své nápady někdy sepíšu a ideálně i vyvinu jako plugin.
Ale to je běh na dlouhou trať.





Marián

-- Původní e-mail --
Od: Mirek Dlask 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 13. 3. 2020 21:51:19
Předmět: Re: [talk-cz] PID import dat
"
Ahoj,
nějaký čas přidávám zastávky. Původně jsem to považoval za přípravu na
integraci Boleslavska do PIDu. Ta se zatím nekonala. Ale vzhledem k tomu, že
se zastávkám nikdo systematicky nevěnuje (čti nikdo mi do toho nekecá), tak
v tom pokračuji. U všech je ref:PID z GTFS, takže pokud převládne názor, že
je třeba něco změnit, nebude to problém.

Jiná situace je u linek. Většinou jde o opravy. Z PIDu jsem jich přidal
minimum. Něco jsou editace plynoucí z editací něčeho jiného. Stačí někde
rozdělit a pojmenovat ulici, po které prochází 10 autobusových linek a jsem
naráz posledním editorem všech deseti linek (jejich relací). 

Veřejné dopravě v Praze se asi nejvíc věnuje (věnoval?) itamas80.





Bylo by dobré mít v OSM všechny zastávky, což je reálné a dá se to vcelku
snadno udržovat. Co už je složitější jsou přestupní uzly.




Ještě složitější jsou linky. Dají se velmi snadno rozbít, třeba neopatrnou
editací něčeho jiného. Špatně se pracuje s variantami vedení linek,
opakovanými průjezdy jedním místem, další komplikace je nutnost mít
rozdělené cesty na odbočkách. Možná proto jsou neudržované, některé stále
jako public_transport:version=1. To, že jsou některé validní, nemusí
znamenat, že jsou úplné. Jiné jsou úplné, ale nejsou validní.

I když bych linky dělal poloautomaticky z GTFS, tak výsledek nebude
odpovídat vynaloženému úsilí.




 U tebe to může být jinak. Předpokládám, že víš do čeho jdeš a víš jak na
to. 

Možná by nebyla od věci nějaká ukázka čeho chceš dosáhnout a v jaké kvalitě.

Počítáš s aktualizacemi?




Mirek




pá 13. 3. 2020 v 10:54 odesílatel Jozef Matejička mailto:matejic...@gmail.com)> napsal:

"
CC0 podle  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility) by měla býti
kompatibilní.

Vypadá to, že data již importoval uživatel Minimalis. Poslal jsem mu správu.



On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 21:51, Petr Schönmann mailto:pschonm...@gmail.com)> wrote:

"

Ahoj, myslim ze trasy nemusis dolovat z polohy vozu. Tady by to slo taky. 
Nevim jak s licenci, ale pokud to jsou opendata tak by to snad slo ;) 
http://opendata.praha.eu/dataset/dpp-jizdni-rady
(http://opendata.praha.eu/dataset/dpp-jizdni-rady)



On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 13:25 Jozef Matejička mailto:matejic...@gmail.com)> wrote:

"
Na Root-u jsem našel článek o tom jak PID zveřejnil polohy autobusů.
https://www.root.cz/clanky/sledovani-polohy-vozidel-pid-kde-je-prave-muj-
autobus/
(https://www.root.cz/clanky/sledovani-polohy-vozidel-pid-kde-je-prave-muj-autobus/)
 




Někdo se tím již zaoberal? Ať neobjevuji Ameriku.




Jestli licence je kompatibilní, zavžuji, že bych od nich vytáhnul trasy
linek v Praze.





J.

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Re: [Talk-it] Covid-19 e geolocalizzazione

[Cascafico Giovanni]

IMHO il problema per noi non è il GDPR, ma che la metodica usata in
Corea del Sud e Cina non sia ancora stata applicata. Presumo che la
Corea sia più smartphonizzata di noi e che l'autoschedatura via app
possa perciò essere un sistema efficace di contenimento. D'altra pare
in Cina hanno sguinzagliato migliaia di intervistatori che, porta a
porta, intervistavano i contagiati per ricostruire sistematicamente la
rete dei contatti.

Spero che oltre agli aiuti arrivati recentemente dalla Cina, ci sia
anche dell'inteligence.

Il giorno ven 13 mar 2020 alle ore 15:14 Alessandro Oggioni
 ha scritto:
>
> Grazie del messaggio ma non riesco a capire (non ho trovato altre 
> informazioni) circa la struttura del sistema di informazioni georiferite
>
> Avete qualche info in più. Forse da li che si riesce a capire se ricade in 
> regole di GDPR
>
> Ale
>
> > On 13 Mar 2020, at 14:37, Maurizio Napolitano  wrote:
> >
> > temo che per GDPR questo non si possa fare da noi
> > Ne parlano nel thread?
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:36 PM Cascafico Giovanni  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Segnalo queste [1] considerazioni molto importanti.
> >> Stralcio:
> >> "Il Korean Center for Disease Control (KCDC) ha organizzato un formidabile 
> >> sistema di raccolta di informazioni geolocalizzate per il tracciamento dei 
> >> contatti dei contagiati.
> >> I potenziali contagiati e i viaggiatori che entrano nel paese devono 
> >> scaricare una app per riportare volontariamente ogni giorno eventuali 
> >> sintomi e la propria posizione."
> >>
> >> [1] https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1238029731443900416.html
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Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

[Daniel Holsey]

Your A Nonce Mate

On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 21:03, BD  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I quite like the idea of adding free water refill places to the OSM. One
> idea which could not only benefit the European Water Project but OSM as a
> whole is to add a tick box on the onosm.org. I could read something like
> "We do provide free water refills" - link to European Water Project. If we
> would promote the onosm.org a bit more not only numbers of businesses
> aware of/on OSM would increase, + people aware of Water Project. Water
> Project volunteers (if there are any) could direct businesses to onosm.org
> for ease of adding info, this way we would "kill two birds with one stone"
> - as we say where I come from.
>
> cheers,
> dzidek23
>
>
>
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>  2. Re: European Water Project - Introduction (Tony OSM)
>  3. Cancellation of Nottingham pub meetup scheduled for 17th
> March (SK53)
>  4. Re: European Water Project - Introduction (Peter Neale)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:12:15 +0100
> From: Colin Smale 
> To: Daniel Holsey 
> Cc: European Water Project ,
> talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction
> Message-ID: <29886cc9030c6a1cc989733c3fbec...@xs4all.nl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Daniel, that is completely uncalled for. If you can't live and let live,
> take your own advice and go procreate somewhere else.
>
> On 2020-03-13 12:27, Daniel Holsey wrote:
>
> Fuck Off
>
> On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 10:31, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> My name is Stuart Rapoport. This my first message on the UK OSM forum, so
> I decided to give an introduction to our project before jumping into the
> thread regarding the tag drinking_water:refill = yes.
>
> A small group of us have recently started a project called European Water
> Project. Our project is 100% collaborative and 100% open data, powered by
> OSM and wikidata. Our goal is to help empower individuals to reduce single
> use waste in their lives. With the help of many (including OSM members in
> Italy, Switzerland, France, and Spain), we have written a set of
> instructions available in 7 languages for adding new water fountains to OSM
> and as well as instructions on how to add photos to Wikimedia Commons and
> link them back :
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CH/Project/European_Water_Project
>
> We have developed a Progressive Web Application which allows individuals
> to find nearby locations where they can refill their sustainable water
> bottle for free anywhere in Europe.
> We strive to contribute to the builiding of a collaborative network of
> foutains, cafes, restaurants and other establishments which are willing to
> allow individuals to fill up their water bottle as part of the battle
> agains single-use waste.  There are currently over 235,000 fountains and 70
> cafés available on the App.
>
> Our web App is available directly at https://europeanwaterproject.org
>  (installation instructions are in the hamburger menu).
>
> A description of the project and the project genesis :
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1f0dts-RErPepgrEnddSAOh1rDqpxMYC3
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart Rapoport
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Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

[BD]

Hi,   I quite like the idea of adding free water refill places to the OSM. One 
idea which could not only benefit the European Water Project but OSM as a whole 
is to add a tick box on the onosm.org. I could read something like We do 
provide free water refills - link to European Water Project. If we would 
promote the onosm.org a bit more not only numbers of businesses aware of/on OSM 
would increase, + people aware of Water Project. Water Project volunteers (if 
there are any) could direct businesses to onosm.org for ease of adding info, 
this way we would kill two birds with one stone - as we say where I 
come from.   cheers,  dzidek23





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 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:12:15 +0100
 From: Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl
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 Daniel, that is completely uncalled for. If you cant live and let live,
 take your own advice and go procreate somewhere else.

 On 2020-03-13 12:27, Daniel Holsey wrote:


 Fuck Off

 On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 10:31, European Water Project 
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.co wrote:

 Hello,

 My name is Stuart Rapoport. This my first message on the UK OSM forum, so I 
decided to give an introduction to our project before jumping into the thread 
regarding the tag drinking_water:refill = yes.  

 A small group of us have recently started a project called European Water 
Project. Our project is 100% collaborative and 100% open data, powered by OSM 
and wikidata. Our goal is to help empower individuals to reduce single use 
waste in their lives. With the help of many (including OSM members in Italy, 
Switzerland, France, and Spain), we have written a set of instructions 
available in 7 languages for adding new water fountains to OSM and as well as 
instructions on how to add photos to Wikimedia Commons and link them back :  
 meta.wikimedia.org meta.wikimedia.org

 We have developed a Progressive Web Application which allows individuals to 
find nearby locations where they can refill their sustainable water bottle for 
free anywhere in Europe.
 We strive to contribute to the builiding of a collaborative network of 
foutains, cafes, restaurants and other establishments which are willing to 
allow individuals to fill up their water bottle as part of the battle agains 
single-use waste.  There are currently over 235,000 fountains and 70 cafés 
available on the App.

 Our web App is available directly at  europeanwaterproject.org 
europeanwaterproject.org   (installation instructions are in the hamburger 
menu).  

 A description of the project and the project genesis :
 drive.google.com drive.google.com

 Best regards,

 Stuart Rapoport

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 I completely agree with Colin

 On 13/03/2020 12:12, Colin Smale wrote:


 Daniel, that is completely uncalled for. If you cant live and let
 live, take your own advice and go procreate somewhere else.


 On 2020-03-13 12:27, Daniel Holsey wrote:


 Fuck Off

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 europeanwaterproj...@gmail.co
 mailto:europeanwaterproject@g wrote:

     Hello,
     My name is Stuart Rapoport. This my first message on the UK OSM
     forum, so I decided to give an introduction to our project before
     

Re: [talk-cz] PID import dat

[Mirek Dlask]

Ahoj,
nějaký čas přidávám zastávky. Původně jsem to považoval za přípravu na
integraci Boleslavska do PIDu. Ta se zatím nekonala. Ale vzhledem k tomu,
že se zastávkám nikdo systematicky nevěnuje (čti nikdo mi do toho nekecá),
tak v tom pokračuji. U všech je ref:PID z GTFS, takže pokud převládne
názor, že je třeba něco změnit, nebude to problém.
Jiná situace je u linek. Většinou jde o opravy. Z PIDu jsem jich přidal
minimum. Něco jsou editace plynoucí z editací něčeho jiného. Stačí někde
rozdělit a pojmenovat ulici, po které prochází 10 autobusových linek a jsem
naráz posledním editorem všech deseti linek (jejich relací).
Veřejné dopravě v Praze se asi nejvíc věnuje (věnoval?) itamas80.

Bylo by dobré mít v OSM všechny zastávky, což je reálné a dá se to vcelku
snadno udržovat. Co už je složitější jsou přestupní uzly.

Ještě složitější jsou linky. Dají se velmi snadno rozbít, třeba neopatrnou
editací něčeho jiného. Špatně se pracuje s variantami vedení linek,
opakovanými průjezdy jedním místem, další komplikace je nutnost mít
rozdělené cesty na odbočkách. Možná proto jsou neudržované, některé stále
jako public_transport:version=1. To, že jsou některé validní, nemusí
znamenat, že jsou úplné. Jiné jsou úplné, ale nejsou validní.
I když bych linky dělal poloautomaticky z GTFS, tak výsledek nebude
odpovídat vynaloženému úsilí.

 U tebe to může být jinak. Předpokládám, že víš do čeho jdeš a víš jak na
to.
Možná by nebyla od věci nějaká ukázka čeho chceš dosáhnout a v jaké kvalitě.
Počítáš s aktualizacemi?

Mirek

pá 13. 3. 2020 v 10:54 odesílatel Jozef Matejička 
napsal:

> CC0 podle  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility by
> měla býti kompatibilní.
>
> Vypadá to, že data již importoval uživatel Minimalis. Poslal jsem mu
> správu.
>
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 21:51, Petr Schönmann  wrote:
>
>> Ahoj, myslim ze trasy nemusis dolovat z polohy vozu. Tady by to slo taky.
>> Nevim jak s licenci, ale pokud to jsou opendata tak by to snad slo ;)
>> http://opendata.praha.eu/dataset/dpp-jizdni-rady
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 13:25 Jozef Matejička  wrote:
>>
>>> Na Root-u jsem našel článek o tom jak PID zveřejnil polohy autobusů.
>>>
>>> https://www.root.cz/clanky/sledovani-polohy-vozidel-pid-kde-je-prave-muj-autobus/
>>>
>>>
>>> Někdo se tím již zaoberal? Ať neobjevuji Ameriku.
>>>
>>> Jestli licence je kompatibilní, zavžuji, že bych od nich vytáhnul trasy
>>> linek v Praze.
>>>
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[Talk-us] Updating opening_hours for COVID-19.

[Eric Christensen via Talk-us]

I've been updating the opening_hours for businesses and services as I 
hear about them closing or changing their hours of operation for 
COVID-19.  I'm also adding a note in the description with any 
information the source is providing.

Seems like a good idea to keep people updated to what's open and what's not.

I wonder if anyone else is also doing this as well?

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[Talk-br] Conversão em via somente para ônibus

[Paulo Vianna]

Olá pessoal, boa tarde.

Estou usando o tipo de rota carro pra tentar traçar uma rota de ônibus,
porém existe uma conversão que não é permitido para carro, somente ônibus.
O que devo fazer no Open Street? Devo definir a rota do ônibus como se
fosse uma rota de carro?

O traçado em vermelho é a rota utilizada para carro. O traçado em verde foi
um demonstração para onde deveria passar o ônibus.

http://www.codelogic.com.br/arquivo/via_onibus_verde.png

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] schéma arrêt de bus

[deuzeffe]

Bonsoir,

J'arrive après la bataille, mais je te conseille la lecture de 
https://nlehuby.5apps.com/bien-cartographier-les-bus.html par l'experte 
du sujet.


Have fun!
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Le 11/03/2020 à 07:53, Arnaud Champollion a écrit :

Bonjour,

J'aide une contribution dans les Hautes Alpes, sur les aménagements 
autour d'une école :


https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/44.66856/6.23189

1) On n'arrive pas à savoir pourquoi la zone d'herbe a disparu du rendu 
OSM.org suite à nos modifications.


2) Nous avons lu et relu les pages wiki pour les arrêts de bus, mais ne 
sommes pas sûrs, notamment pour l'arrêt : polygone ou noeud ? 
amenity=shelter + highway=bus_stop, ou shelter=yes ? Sachant qu'il y a 
aussi le quai ? Actuellement, osmfr ne rend plus l'arrêt.


Est-ce que quelqu'un peut regarder ?

NB : ne pas se fier à l'orthophoto IGN, la circulation a été modifiée 
depuis, les tracés de la ligne du bus ainsi que la circulation du 
parking sont conformes au terrain actuel.


Merci

Bonne journée,

Arnaud


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[Talk-GB] Fw: European Water Project - Introduction

[Peter Neale via Talk-GB]

For the avoidance of doubt (and to retain my good name), can I please point out 
that "this swearing jerk" referred to by @BrianPrangle is not me but...
>- Forwarded message ->From: Daniel Holsey >To: 
>European Water Project >Cc: 
>"talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" >Sent: Friday, 13 March 
>2020, 11:29:24 GMT>Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction
>Fuck Off


Regards,Peter
 Peter Neale 
t: 01908 309666 
m: 07968 341930 
skype: nealepb 

   - Forwarded message - From: Brian Prangle To: 
talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, 13 March 
2020, 18:00:10 GMTSubject: Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction
 Can an admin please remove this swearing jerk from the mailing list, for 
totally unacceptable behaviour?

On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 16:03, Peter Neale via Talk-GB 
 wrote:

Well. That's a powerful, reasoned argument (NOT!).
If you don't have anything constructive to add to the debate   I suggest that 
you keep your opinions to yourself.
Peter

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Re: [Talk-it] Covid-19 e geolocalizzazione

[Alessandro Oggioni]

Condivido anche io la tua analisi.
Infatti mi chiedevo quali erano le informazioni che raccoglievano e come le 
strutturavano.

Alessandro

> On 13 Mar 2020, at 18:55, Fra Mauro  wrote:
> 
> Scusate ma non capisco il vostro dubbio. Ovviamente i dati sui casi di una 
> malattia ed i relativi contatti sono informazioni sensibili e regolate dal 
> GDPR.
> Però il KCDC è un ente pubblico.
> Anche in Italia ci sono enti pubblici che, in base a diverse norme, possono 
> (anzi, DEVONO) registrare ed usare quelle informazioni. Ed infatti lo stanno 
> facendo. Non so se facciano una geolocalizzazione fine.
> Non mi risulta che ci siano obblighi di legge sul riferire posizione e 
> sintomi tramite app, ma sicuramente ci sono sul collaborare con le indagini 
> epidemiologiche per attività di sanità pubblica 
> 
> Il 13 Marzo 2020 15:13:30 CET, Alessandro Oggioni  ha 
> scritto:
> Grazie del messaggio ma non riesco a capire (non ho trovato altre 
> informazioni) circa la struttura del sistema di informazioni georiferite
> 
> Avete qualche info in più. Forse da li che si riesce a capire se ricade in 
> regole di GDPR
> 
> Ale
> 
> On 13 Mar 2020, at 14:37, Maurizio Napolitano  wrote:
> 
> temo che per GDPR questo non si possa fare da noi
> Ne parlano nel thread?
> 
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:36 PM Cascafico Giovanni  
> wrote:
> Segnalo queste [1] considerazioni molto importanti.
> Stralcio:
> "Il Korean Center for Disease Control (KCDC) ha organizzato un formidabile 
> sistema di raccolta di informazioni geolocalizzate per il tracciamento dei 
> contatti dei contagiati.
> I potenziali contagiati e i viaggiatori che entrano nel paese devono 
> scaricare una app per riportare volontariamente ogni giorno eventuali sintomi 
> e la propria posizione."
> 
> [1] https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1238029731443900416.html 
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Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

[Brian Prangle]

Can an admin please remove this swearing jerk from the mailing list, for
totally unacceptable behaviour?

On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 16:03, Peter Neale via Talk-GB <
talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Well. That's a powerful, reasoned argument (NOT!).
>
> If you don't have anything constructive to add to the debate   I suggest
> that you keep your opinions to yourself.
>
> Peter
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Re: [Talk-it] Covid-19 e geolocalizzazione

[Fra Mauro]

Scusate ma non capisco il vostro dubbio. Ovviamente i dati sui casi di una 
malattia ed i relativi contatti sono informazioni sensibili e regolate dal GDPR.
Però il KCDC è un ente pubblico.
Anche in Italia ci sono enti pubblici che, in base a diverse norme, possono 
(anzi, DEVONO) registrare ed usare quelle informazioni. Ed infatti lo stanno 
facendo. Non so se facciano una geolocalizzazione fine.
Non mi risulta che ci siano obblighi di legge sul riferire posizione e sintomi 
tramite app, ma sicuramente ci sono sul collaborare con le indagini 
epidemiologiche per attività di sanità pubblica 

Il 13 Marzo 2020 15:13:30 CET, Alessandro Oggioni  ha 
scritto:
>Grazie del messaggio ma non riesco a capire (non ho trovato altre
>informazioni) circa la struttura del sistema di informazioni
>georiferite
>
>Avete qualche info in più. Forse da li che si riesce a capire se ricade
>in regole di GDPR
>
>Ale
>
>> On 13 Mar 2020, at 14:37, Maurizio Napolitano 
>wrote:
>> 
>> temo che per GDPR questo non si possa fare da noi
>> Ne parlano nel thread?
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:36 PM Cascafico Giovanni
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Segnalo queste [1] considerazioni molto importanti.
>>> Stralcio:
>>> "Il Korean Center for Disease Control (KCDC) ha organizzato un
>formidabile sistema di raccolta di informazioni geolocalizzate per il
>tracciamento dei contatti dei contagiati.
>>> I potenziali contagiati e i viaggiatori che entrano nel paese devono
>scaricare una app per riportare volontariamente ogni giorno eventuali
>sintomi e la propria posizione."
>>> 
>>> [1] https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1238029731443900416.html
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[Talk-bo] Análisis Automatizado de la calidad de Rutas Transporte Público Cochabamba

[Marco Antonio Frias]

hola,

Hace poco el user ToniE [1] añadío a la wiki de Rutas de Transporte
Público de Cochabamba [2] un enlace para revisar el estado de mapeo
PTNA de errores en saltos, estaciones, paradas de buses, teleféricos y
tren y posibles soluciones, está lindo

https://ptna.openstreetmap.de/results/BO/C/BO-C-Cochabamba-Analysis.html

también está la lista de todas las redes de transporte de Bolivia,
pero como no hay otras aparte de Cochabamba queda única:

https://ptna.openstreetmap.de/results/BO/index.php

Tiene un autogenerado para una posible lista de rutas en la wiki, me
parece bien porque hacerlo manual con cerca de 200 rutas es laaargo y
complicado.

Para quien desarrolla puede contribuir en el repositorio:

https://github.com/osm-ToniE

Abrazos,

Marco Antonio

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:ToniE
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Cochabamba/Transporte_p%C3%BAblico

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[Talk-bo] Reunión para mapear Transporte Público en Cochabamba \o/

[Marco Antonio Frias]

hola,

Junto a un amigo el sábado 14 de Marzo de 2020 nos vamos a reunir para
aprender a mapear en JOSM rutas de transporte público de Cochabamba y
Área Metropolitana :)

Nos vamos a reunir a las 15h en el Cowork de Cala Cala
→ https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2331301856

Queda invitada cualquier persona que quiera aprender a mapear en OSM o
también usar las apps para colaborar

Abrazos,

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Re: [OSM-talk] Planet torrents...

[Maarten Deen]

On 2020-03-10 08:07, Maarten Deen wrote:

On 2020-03-07 09:36, Christian Quest wrote:


This week was the first one I had nothing to do (or fix) :)


Do you have scripts for this? (have to ask before I go make one myself)


I made my own script, this is very basic and works for me in Ubuntu with 
transmission. Replace user:pass with the username and password you 
connect to transmission.


$ transmission-remote --auth user:pass -t `transmission-remote --auth 
user:pass -l|grep planet |awk '{print $1}'` -l
$ transmission-remote --auth user:pass -t `transmission-remote --auth 
user:pass -l|grep planet |awk '{print $1}'` --remove-and-delete
$ transmission-remote --auth user:pass -a 
https://osm.cquest.org/torrents/planet-latest.osm.pbf.torrent
$ transmission-remote --auth user:pass -t `transmission-remote --auth 
user:pass -l|grep planet |awk '{print $1}'` -ph all



Explanation:
transmission-remote --auth user:pass -l|grep planet |awk '{print $1}' 
will output the ID of the torrent. I'm only grepping on planet because 
that's the only planet torrent I've got, it would be better to know the 
whole filename or at least grep on .osm.pbf too.


The first command will display the planet file you're now downloading
The second command will delete it from transmission and remove all files 
with it
The third command will add a new tracker from the website. Because you 
want to seed the latest planet, this is easy.
The forth command will set the priority of the tracker on high. This is 
optional of course.


Regards,
Maarten

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Re: [Talk-de] Einladung Berliner OSM Hackweekend 28./29.3.2020

[lars lingner]

Hallo,

leider wird dieses Hackweekend, auf Grund der aktuellen Entwicklungen
und Vorsichtsmaßnahmen, nicht stattfinden.


Viele Grüße

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Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

[Peter Neale via Talk-GB]

Well. That's a powerful, reasoned argument (NOT!).
If you don't have anything constructive to add to the debate   I suggest that 
you keep your opinions to yourself.
Peter

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[Talk-GB] Cancellation of Nottingham pub meetup scheduled for 17th March

[SK53]

Dear All,

The Nottingham pub meetup scheduled for next Tuesday 17th March will now
not take place.

This is in the light of recent developments of the coronavirus epidemic,
including a personal need, as someone with a pre-existing condition,  to
self-isolate (and to encourage my father to do the same).

I will review whether the April and May meetings will take place closer to
the time.

Best wishes,

Jerry
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Re: [Talk-br] Nova proposta de classificação viária

[santamariense]

Compartilho com vocês o resultado [1] da interconexão de rotas entre
as cidades com mais de 200 mil habitantes, as quais deverão ser parte
da malha trunk do nosso país. Todos os trechos tem quais rotas passam
por ele com a tag R*. A mesma relação de rotas é possível ser
encontrada na tabela que também está contida no arquivo zip a ser
baixado. É ainda possível averiguar uma rota completa, com todos os
trechos selecionados, selecionando um dos trechos, selecionando nas
tags a rota desejada, clicando com o botão direito e selecionando a
opção 'buscar chave/valor', ou algo parecido. Em caso de divergência
entre a tabela e o mapa, a rota da última deve prevalecer.

Conurbações foram consideradas como sendo apenas uma cidade, logo, as
cidades conurbadas devem ter sua malha urbana pensa em conjunto, e,
por conseguinte, trunks adicionais podem existir dentro dessas áreas
conurbadas.

As conexões que passam a fronteira do Brasil são meramente
ilustrativas da rota completa entre cidades interconectáveis. Porém é
importante lembrar que a classificação fora do território brasileiro
não será modificada sem diálogo com os nossos vizinhos.

Divergências dos resultados podem ser discutidas pontualmente de modo
a se adicionar ou excluir trechos, bem como modificar as rotas.

[1] - 
https://github.com/santamariense/ClassViarBR/raw/master/Mapa%20e%20tabela%20trunk%20v20200313.zip

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Re: [Talk-it] Covid-19 e geolocalizzazione

[Alessandro Oggioni]

Grazie del messaggio ma non riesco a capire (non ho trovato altre informazioni) 
circa la struttura del sistema di informazioni georiferite

Avete qualche info in più. Forse da li che si riesce a capire se ricade in 
regole di GDPR

Ale

> On 13 Mar 2020, at 14:37, Maurizio Napolitano  wrote:
> 
> temo che per GDPR questo non si possa fare da noi
> Ne parlano nel thread?
> 
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:36 PM Cascafico Giovanni  
> wrote:
>> 
>> Segnalo queste [1] considerazioni molto importanti.
>> Stralcio:
>> "Il Korean Center for Disease Control (KCDC) ha organizzato un formidabile 
>> sistema di raccolta di informazioni geolocalizzate per il tracciamento dei 
>> contatti dei contagiati.
>> I potenziali contagiati e i viaggiatori che entrano nel paese devono 
>> scaricare una app per riportare volontariamente ogni giorno eventuali 
>> sintomi e la propria posizione."
>> 
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Re: [Talk-it] manca OpenStreetMap

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> Potrebbe andare bene stasera alle h21 su  https://meet.jit.si/osmit ?
>

Ok!
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Re: [Talk-it] manca OpenStreetMap

[Volker Schmidt]

Ok

Volker

On Fri, 13 Mar 2020, 14:34 Alessandro Sarretta, <
alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Per me ok.
> Ale
>
> Il ven 13 mar 2020, 12:09 mbranco2  ha scritto:
>
>> Potrebbe andare bene stasera alle h21 su  https://meet.jit.si/osmit ?
>>
>>
>> 
>>  Mail
>> priva di virus. www.avast.com
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>>
>> Il giorno ven 13 mar 2020 alle ore 10:16 Alessandro Sarretta <
>> alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Vista la discussione stimolata da questa idea mi verrebbe da proporre
>>> una chiacchierata online per vagliare disponibilità e opportunità.
>>>
>>> Qualcuno di voi sarebbe disponibile stasera?
>>>
>>> Ale
>>> On 12/03/20 15:21, Marco Minghini wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Ciao a tutti,
>>> bellissima idea!
>>>
 Se avete stimoli o proposte fatevi avanti!

>>> Su Youtube c'è una quantità immensa di video tutorial, sia su iD che su
>>> JOSM (guardate ad esempio quelli fatti da HOT, Missing Maps o MapGive). A
>>> seconda dello scopo si può cercare di coinvolgere il pubblico giusto, ad
>>> esempio se attiviamo i contatti con le scuole (Wikimedia Italia può
>>> aiutare) si possono insegnare le basi di OSM con iD; se invece vogliamo
>>> coinvolgere chi OSM lo conosce già (ad esempio i frequentatori di questa
>>> lista o del gruppo Telegram) un bel tutorial su JOSM (o perchè no su
>>> Overpass) sarebbe interessante...
>>>
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Re: [Talk-it] Covid-19 e geolocalizzazione

[Maurizio Napolitano]

temo che per GDPR questo non si possa fare da noi
Ne parlano nel thread?

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:36 PM Cascafico Giovanni  wrote:
>
> Segnalo queste [1] considerazioni molto importanti.
> Stralcio:
> "Il Korean Center for Disease Control (KCDC) ha organizzato un formidabile 
> sistema di raccolta di informazioni geolocalizzate per il tracciamento dei 
> contatti dei contagiati.
> I potenziali contagiati e i viaggiatori che entrano nel paese devono 
> scaricare una app per riportare volontariamente ogni giorno eventuali sintomi 
> e la propria posizione."
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[Talk-it] Covid-19 e geolocalizzazione

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Segnalo queste [1] considerazioni molto importanti.
Stralcio:
"Il Korean Center for Disease Control (KCDC) ha organizzato un formidabile
sistema di raccolta di informazioni geolocalizzate per il tracciamento dei
contatti dei contagiati.
I potenziali contagiati e i viaggiatori che entrano nel paese devono
scaricare una app per riportare volontariamente ogni giorno eventuali
sintomi e la propria posizione."

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Re: [Talk-it] manca OpenStreetMap

[Alessandro Sarretta]

Per me ok.
Ale

Il ven 13 mar 2020, 12:09 mbranco2  ha scritto:

> Potrebbe andare bene stasera alle h21 su  https://meet.jit.si/osmit ?
>
>
> 
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>
> Il giorno ven 13 mar 2020 alle ore 10:16 Alessandro Sarretta <
> alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Vista la discussione stimolata da questa idea mi verrebbe da proporre una
>> chiacchierata online per vagliare disponibilità e opportunità.
>>
>> Qualcuno di voi sarebbe disponibile stasera?
>>
>> Ale
>> On 12/03/20 15:21, Marco Minghini wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Ciao a tutti,
>> bellissima idea!
>>
>>> Se avete stimoli o proposte fatevi avanti!
>>>
>> Su Youtube c'è una quantità immensa di video tutorial, sia su iD che su
>> JOSM (guardate ad esempio quelli fatti da HOT, Missing Maps o MapGive). A
>> seconda dello scopo si può cercare di coinvolgere il pubblico giusto, ad
>> esempio se attiviamo i contatti con le scuole (Wikimedia Italia può
>> aiutare) si possono insegnare le basi di OSM con iD; se invece vogliamo
>> coinvolgere chi OSM lo conosce già (ad esempio i frequentatori di questa
>> lista o del gruppo Telegram) un bel tutorial su JOSM (o perchè no su
>> Overpass) sarebbe interessante...
>>
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[Talk-es] Importación de árboles de Barcelona (proceso y script) y más

[Carlos Cámara Menoyo via Talk-es]

Buenas,

He realizado un pequeño script para importar los árboles de Barcelona del 
portal de datos abiertos del Ayuntamiento y escribo por lo siguiente: 1) Para 
compartir el proceso de importación con la comunidad y revisarlo; 2) Preguntar 
sobre los siguientes pasos a seguir y 3) Para compartir el script (tiene unas 
particularidades que luego comento y que creo que pueden ser útiles), por si a) 
alguien quiere mejorarlo o contribuir por un lado y por si b) hay alguien que 
quiera usarlo para otras importaciones, por otro.

Podéis encontrar el script y la documentación del proceso de importación aquí: 
https://osmimports.mapcolabora.org/import_bcn_trees/ (versión online) o 
https://github.com/mapcolabora/osm_imports_preparations/blob/master/imports/bcn_trees/bcn_trees.ipynb
 y el geojson resultante en 
https://github.com/mapcolabora/osm_imports_preparations/blob/master/imports/bcn_trees/data/processed/bcn_trees.geojson

1. Proceso de importación

Como veréis, tenemos autorización del Ayuntamiento para las importaciones. He 
documentado las equivalencias y creo que no habrá ningún problema, dado que se 
trata de un dataset con unos campos muy sencillos. Aún así, quizá alguien vea 
algo que a mi se me haya escapado.

2. Siguientes pasos

Entiendo que, una vez informada la comunidad, lo siguiente es esperar por si 
hubiera alegaciones o comentarios sobre la propia importación. En caso de 
transcurrir un periodo razonable de días sin notificaciones, entiendo que por 
silencio administrativo se daría por buena y podría proceder. Ahí es donde 
tengo dudas.

Mi intención sería usar el geojson que genera el script y crear un proyecto en 
el gestor de tareas. Es aquí donde no sé cómo proceder. ¿Podríais indicarme 
cómo hacerlo? Entiendo también que la delimitación de las zonas la hace el 
gestor de tareas (retícula), y no es necesario ningún archivo más, aunque he 
visto que los de importación de catastro (mucho más complejos) tienen unas 
zonas delimitadas que no son reticulares.

3. Sobre el script

Vaya por delante: es el primer script que hago en mi vida en python (bueno, en 
realidad, si veis el historial del repo, es el primer script pero tiene muchas 
revisiones que lo han ido mejorando), así que es muy mejorable. Es por ello que 
si alguien se anima a hacerlo, será más que bienvenido. Veréis que sigue las 
directrices de contribute all, y ya han participado algunas personas ayudándome.

Mi idea es hacer un repositorio que sea genérico y extensible para que 
cualquiera pueda usarlo para crear importaciones de cualquier tipo (obviamente, 
entendiendo que se tenga autorización y sin saltarse los procedimientos 
establecidos).

En mi opinión, este repo tiene una serie de ventajas que lo pueden hacer 
interesante:

- Como veréis, se trata de un jupyter notebook, con lo cual la documentación y 
el script están en el mismo lugar y es muy fácil de supervisar, comprobar 
resultados y proceso al estar centralizado y tener visualización de datos de 
salida.
- El parser se hace únicamente a partir de un archivo CSV sencillo. Una función 
custom lee ese archivo y se encarga de hacer el parseado, con lo cual casi 
cualquier persona puede editarlo fácilmente para adaptarlo a sus importaciones. 
(mi idea sería ir extendiendo las funcionalidades a medida que se vaya usando y 
vaya detectando necesidades).
- El repositorio está documentado, incluye las dependencias para crear un 
entorno virtual y, por tanto, es reproducible en cualquier equipo.
- Como mi nivel de conocimientos de python no es alto, creo que el script es 
sencillo, lo cual puede hacer que cualquiera lo pueda adaptar (me falta 
documentar esa parte todavía).

Eso es todo por el momento.

Carlos

PD: vuelvo a mandar este correo que mandé hace dos días porque he visto que en 
el archivo de la lista no aparece. Disculpad si lo recibís por duplicado.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [osm-fr asso] SNT: on coule sous le vandalisme et assimilé

[Marc M.]

Le 13.03.20 à 10:13, Vincent Bergeot a écrit :
> peut-on imaginer un commentaire "automatique de changeset" lors du
> premier changeset ?

alkino a fait 99% de qui manquait. il reste quelques détails à modifier
(entre autre avoir un mode "test"). de mémoire il restait un autre
détail à mettre en place mais je ne sais plus, je dois regarder.

> Contenu à définir mais avec prise en compte de la situation particulière
> lié au SNT :)

le message de bienvenue est sur le wiki
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:France/bienvenue
tout amélioration est la bienvenue tout en gardant à l'esprit que le
message est sans doute déjà trop long.

> Je crois que tu avais évoqué une initiative belge d'accueil des nouveaux ?

oui, je sais plus si j'y ai accès ou si on m'a filé le code.
dans les 2 cas, yaka que je demande si cela motive du monde

Cordialement,
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging historic US routes

[Greg Morgan]

Only one person cared about US 80 in osm.  I have deleted portions of the
route because parts of it are artificial ways to make the route render.
These artificial ways interfered with other mapping.  You can do what you
want with the route including deleting.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 6:47 PM Tod Fitch  wrote:

> This weekend I drove part of AZ-79 and noticed that Arizona has now put up
> some “Historic US 80” signage. On the sections of highway I drove, every
> occurrence of a AZ-79 route marker now also has a historic US-80 route
> marker. (Back in the day that highway was dual signed as US-80 and US-89
> but I guess nobody cares about having historic US-89 markers at present.)
>
> I was in a rental car and eventually figured out how to get Apple CarPlay
> setup so I could use the OSM based Maps.me app to show the roads I was on.
> In doing so I saw that Maps.me was showing the road with dual highway
> shields: A AZ shield with 79 and a US shield with 80. Since US-80 was
> decommissioned a long time ago (at least in Arizona and California) this
> seems wrong so I thought I’d look at the tagging.
>
> The tagging is on a route relation [1], at least I don’t see tagging on
> the individual way segments that would render as “US 80”.
>
> How should this be tagged?
>
> Casting about for examples of what to do, it seems that the Lincoln
> Highway [2] relation is quite different. And US 66 in California has no
> historic route relation at all, just the current county road route [3].
>
> There is a German page on the wiki about “route=historic” [4]. My reading
> of a machine translation of it implies that instead of “route=road” the
> historic US 80 relation should have “route=historic” and “historic=road”.
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
> [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9230611
> [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3958115
> [3] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/205719338
> [4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dhistoric
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[OSM-talk] traceability of edits

[Mario Frasca]

I've opened this issue, and I'm sharing it here because I think it's an 
issue for the community.


https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues/159


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Re: [Talk-it] manca OpenStreetMap

[Rachele Amerini]

Ciao a tutti!

Come Nazioni Unite - UN Mappers e in collaborazione con una scuola di
Vicenza la settimana scorsa abbiamo svolto un mapathon completamente da
remoto, soltanto con materiale in pdf, durato una settimana, su alcuni
nostri task attivi su TeachOSM. Abbiamo in previsione di continuare a
lavorare con i ragazzi nelle prossime settimane con alcuni mini-challenge.
Mi unirei volentieri alla chiacchierata!
Per me ok alle 21.

Rachele




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> Potrebbe andare bene stasera alle h21 su  https://meet.jit.si/osmit ?
>
>
> 
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> Il giorno ven 13 mar 2020 alle ore 10:16 Alessandro Sarretta <
> alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Vista la discussione stimolata da questa idea mi verrebbe da proporre una
>> chiacchierata online per vagliare disponibilità e opportunità.
>>
>> Qualcuno di voi sarebbe disponibile stasera?
>>
>> Ale
>> On 12/03/20 15:21, Marco Minghini wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Ciao a tutti,
>> bellissima idea!
>>
>>> Se avete stimoli o proposte fatevi avanti!
>>>
>> Su Youtube c'è una quantità immensa di video tutorial, sia su iD che su
>> JOSM (guardate ad esempio quelli fatti da HOT, Missing Maps o MapGive). A
>> seconda dello scopo si può cercare di coinvolgere il pubblico giusto, ad
>> esempio se attiviamo i contatti con le scuole (Wikimedia Italia può
>> aiutare) si possono insegnare le basi di OSM con iD; se invece vogliamo
>> coinvolgere chi OSM lo conosce già (ad esempio i frequentatori di questa
>> lista o del gruppo Telegram) un bel tutorial su JOSM (o perchè no su
>> Overpass) sarebbe interessante...
>>
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Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

[Tony OSM]

I completely agree with Colin

On 13/03/2020 12:12, Colin Smale wrote:


Daniel, that is completely uncalled for. If you can't live and let 
live, take your own advice and go procreate somewhere else.



On 2020-03-13 12:27, Daniel Holsey wrote:


Fuck Off

On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 10:31, European Water Project 
> wrote:


Hello,
My name is Stuart Rapoport. This my first message on the UK OSM
forum, so I decided to give an introduction to our project before
jumping into the thread regarding the tag drinking_water:refill =
yes.
A small group of us have recently started a project called
European Water Project. Our project is 100% collaborative and
100% open data, powered by OSM and wikidata. Our goal is to help
empower individuals to reduce single use waste in their lives.
With the help of many (including OSM members in
Italy, Switzerland, France, and Spain), we have written a set of
instructions available in 7 languages for adding new water
fountains to OSM and as well as instructions on how to add photos
to Wikimedia Commons and link them back :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CH/Project/European_Water_Project

We have developed a Progressive Web Application which allows
individuals to find nearby locations where they can refill their
sustainable water bottle for free anywhere in Europe.
We strive to contribute to the builiding of a collaborative
network of foutains, cafes, restaurants and other establishments
which are willing to allow individuals to fill up their water
bottle as part of the battle agains single-use waste.  There are
currently over 235,000 fountains and 70 cafés available on the App.

Our web App is available directly at
https://europeanwaterproject.org (installation instructions are
in the hamburger menu).
A description of the project and the project genesis :
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1f0dts-RErPepgrEnddSAOh1rDqpxMYC3

Best regards,

Stuart Rapoport

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] SNT: on coule sous le vandalisme et assimilé

[Marc M.]

c'est aussi le cas en France, à moindre échelle heureusement


Le 13.03.20 à 08:53, Cyrille37 OSM via Talk-fr a écrit :
> Salut
> 
> Nous avons "de la chance" car dans d'autres pays (continent africain par
> ex.) ce ne sont pas de simples notes, mais des building et autres formes
> créatives qui sont encore plus difficiles à détecter.
> 
> C/.
> 
> Le 12/03/2020 à 17:35, Marc M. a écrit :
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> depuis 2 jours, on coule (les rares que nous sommes à essayer de faire
>> un suivit des nouveaux au jour le jour), principalement sous des notes
>> du genre https://osm.org/note/2119184 au point que j'ai demandé un tmp
>> ban sur osm.org
>> je ne peux que supposer que les enfants se défoulent dans les environs
>> de leur école et qu'avoir un moyen de contact identifié comme le
>> conseille/demande la politique "contribution guidée" serrait une très
>> bonne chose. à défaut, quelqu'un a-t-il mieux à conseiller que de
>> regarder l'école la + proche, prendre son téléphone et se plaindre ?
>>
>> Cordialement,
>> Marc
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Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

[Colin Smale]

Daniel, that is completely uncalled for. If you can't live and let live,
take your own advice and go procreate somewhere else. 

On 2020-03-13 12:27, Daniel Holsey wrote:

> Fuck Off 
> 
> On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 10:31, European Water Project 
>  wrote: 
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> My name is Stuart Rapoport. This my first message on the UK OSM forum, so I 
> decided to give an introduction to our project before jumping into the thread 
> regarding the tag drinking_water:refill = yes.  
> 
> A small group of us have recently started a project called European Water 
> Project. Our project is 100% collaborative and 100% open data, powered by OSM 
> and wikidata. Our goal is to help empower individuals to reduce single use 
> waste in their lives. With the help of many (including OSM members in Italy, 
> Switzerland, France, and Spain), we have written a set of instructions 
> available in 7 languages for adding new water fountains to OSM and as well as 
> instructions on how to add photos to Wikimedia Commons and link them back :  
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CH/Project/European_Water_Project 
> 
> We have developed a Progressive Web Application which allows individuals to 
> find nearby locations where they can refill their sustainable water bottle 
> for free anywhere in Europe.
> We strive to contribute to the builiding of a collaborative network of 
> foutains, cafes, restaurants and other establishments which are willing to 
> allow individuals to fill up their water bottle as part of the battle agains 
> single-use waste.  There are currently over 235,000 fountains and 70 cafés 
> available on the App. 
> 
> Our web App is available directly at https://europeanwaterproject.org  
> (installation instructions are in the hamburger menu).  
> 
> A description of the project and the project genesis : 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1f0dts-RErPepgrEnddSAOh1rDqpxMYC3 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Projet du mois de mars - #balanceTaBorne

[Jacques Lavignotte]

Le 01/03/2020 à 14:34, Yves P. a écrit :

La région Bourgogne-Franche-Comté en a déployé 47 d’après le Syndicat 
Mixte d’Énergies du Doubs


Un peu la même histoire par cheux-nous :

http://www.alterbase86.soregies.fr/portal/#/network

J'ai ai visité deux et Osmose me fait une « proposition d'intégration » ;)

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Projet du mois de mars - #balanceTaBorne - problème des prise type3 <> type3c

[Quentin Salles]

Bonjour,

Concernant le réseau Révéo, je vous confirme qu'il s'agit bien de prises
types 3c. Il doit s'agir de la même chose sur tous les réseaux exploités
par BYes

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] TELECOM :: Avis demandé

[Jacques Lavignotte]

Bonjour François,

le 689 ne ressemblait pas à un NRO, d'où mon doute

Il est possible d'ajouter utility=telecom si tu le souhaites (à moyen 
terme street_cabinet=telecom pourrait être remplacé).


Fait !


Bonne journée

François



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Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

[Daniel Holsey]

Fuck Off

On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 10:31, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> My name is Stuart Rapoport. This my first message on the UK OSM forum, so
> I decided to give an introduction to our project before jumping into the
> thread regarding the tag drinking_water:refill = yes.
>
> A small group of us have recently started a project called European Water
> Project. Our project is 100% collaborative and 100% open data, powered by
> OSM and wikidata. Our goal is to help empower individuals to reduce single
> use waste in their lives. With the help of many (including OSM members in
> Italy, Switzerland, France, and Spain), we have written a set of
> instructions available in 7 languages for adding new water fountains to OSM
> and as well as instructions on how to add photos to Wikimedia Commons and
> link them back :
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CH/Project/European_Water_Project
>
> We have developed a Progressive Web Application which allows individuals
> to find nearby locations where they can refill their sustainable water
> bottle for free anywhere in Europe.
> We strive to contribute to the builiding of a collaborative network of
> foutains, cafes, restaurants and other establishments which are willing to
> allow individuals to fill up their water bottle as part of the battle
> agains single-use waste.  There are currently over 235,000 fountains and 70
> cafés available on the App.
>
> Our web App is available directly at https://europeanwaterproject.org
> (installation instructions are in the hamburger menu).
>
> A description of the project and the project genesis :
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1f0dts-RErPepgrEnddSAOh1rDqpxMYC3
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart Rapoport
>
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Re: [Talk-it] manca OpenStreetMap

[mbranco2]

Potrebbe andare bene stasera alle h21 su  https://meet.jit.si/osmit ?


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Il giorno ven 13 mar 2020 alle ore 10:16 Alessandro Sarretta <
alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Vista la discussione stimolata da questa idea mi verrebbe da proporre una
> chiacchierata online per vagliare disponibilità e opportunità.
>
> Qualcuno di voi sarebbe disponibile stasera?
>
> Ale
> On 12/03/20 15:21, Marco Minghini wrote:
>
> 
> Ciao a tutti,
> bellissima idea!
>
>> Se avete stimoli o proposte fatevi avanti!
>>
> Su Youtube c'è una quantità immensa di video tutorial, sia su iD che su
> JOSM (guardate ad esempio quelli fatti da HOT, Missing Maps o MapGive). A
> seconda dello scopo si può cercare di coinvolgere il pubblico giusto, ad
> esempio se attiviamo i contatti con le scuole (Wikimedia Italia può
> aiutare) si possono insegnare le basi di OSM con iD; se invece vogliamo
> coinvolgere chi OSM lo conosce già (ad esempio i frequentatori di questa
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> Overpass) sarebbe interessante...
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [osm-fr asso] SNT: on coule sous le vandalisme et assimilé

[Cyrille37 OSM]

Le 13/03/2020 à 10:13, Vincent Bergeot a écrit :

la faute est à "pas de formation".


La faute est aussi au manque de civisme numérique: on joue au tchat via 
les notes ; ce qui n'est pas la même chose qu'accueillir des nouveaux. À 
mon avis la solution, s'il peut y en avoir une, ne peut pas être la même 
pour les 2 cas : nouveau contributeur et élève dissipé.


Ça va pas être simple ...

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Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

[European Water Project]

>
> I am due to have a call Tuesday morning (17/3) with Rebecca Burgess, CEO
> of Refill UK (https://refill.org.uk/ )  and the parent organisation City
> to Sea( https://www.citytosea.org.uk/ ) . This is one of many calls I
> have had with Refill.
>
> The Refill board's reluctance to share/license water refill data openly is
> very unfortunate.  Refill requires all partners to exclusively sell Chilly
> water bottles and only use their application.  I hope we can convince
> Refill to reconsider.
>


> Building a global open database of water refill points would be beneficial
> to all - resulting in a larger and better maintained network and less
> single-use plastic !
>

>
> *From:* Gareth L 
> *Date:* 12 March 2020 at 12:36:14 CET
> *To:* Jake Edmonds 
> *Cc:* "talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" 
> *Subject:* *Re:  [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion -
> drink_water:refill*
>
> 
> 
> Hi Jake,
>
> Thanks for posting about this. I’m due to post on the Osm-uk loomio asking
> for suggestions on what the Q2 project should be. Are you aware of any
> other viable sources of data beyond an in person survey?
> I wonder why refill wouldn’t want to license their data.
>
> Gareth
>
> On 12 Mar 2020, at 11:27, Jake Edmonds via Talk-GB <
> talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
>  I understand there is an existing suggestion on the UK Quarterly Project
> talk page about drinking water but I wanted to add my support now that the
> drinking_water:refill proposal was approved. The tag is used to indicate if
> the establishment participates in a water refill network. I understand
> Refill.org.uk are unwilling to license their data.
>
> The drinking_water:refill tag is currently in use by the European Water
> Project's website and priceless.zottelig.ch. In addition OsmAnd have just
> added support according to their GitHub, I hope they will push an update to
> their apps soon.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Adrinking_water%3Arefill
> 
>
>
> https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd-resources/commit/15f5c919d3ac25cc048c4f3e0a569f7981999f65
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO et FANTOIR, 2 noms pour la même rue

[Cyrille37 OSM]

J'utilise simplement le rendu de l'imagerie dispo dans Josm.

Héhé :-) Merci !

Cyrille37.

Le 13/03/2020 à 10:43, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit :

Bonjour,


De: "Marc M." 

Le 13.03.20 à 08:20, Cyrille37 OSM a écrit :

Faut-il reporter ces 2 tags sur tous les tronçons de la rue ?

ref:FR:FANTOIR sur la relation doit suffire.
peut-être que la ref a changé entre les données BANOv1 utilisé par le
rendu et BANOv2 si c'est cette interface que tu utilises.
Perso je ne tiens plus compte du rendu BANOv1 tant qu'il
n'a pas basculé sur BANOv2, je n'utilises plus que l'interface v2

Cyrille, le rapprochement est bien effectué grâce au tag ref:FR:FANTOIR et visible 
ici : http://dev.cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/fantoir/#insee=37261=1

Le rendu n'est pas à jour de ce rapprochement car il puise dans la BANO v1, sa 
bascule sur la v2 est un chantier qui devrait prendre peu de temps si j'ai 
Christian à côté de moi à Toulouse début avril.

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[Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

[European Water Project]

Hello,

My name is Stuart Rapoport. This my first message on the UK OSM forum, so I
decided to give an introduction to our project before jumping into the
thread regarding the tag drinking_water:refill = yes.

A small group of us have recently started a project called European Water
Project. Our project is 100% collaborative and 100% open data, powered by
OSM and wikidata. Our goal is to help empower individuals to reduce single
use waste in their lives. With the help of many (including OSM members in
Italy, Switzerland, France, and Spain), we have written a set of
instructions available in 7 languages for adding new water fountains to OSM
and as well as instructions on how to add photos to Wikimedia Commons and
link them back :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CH/Project/European_Water_Project

We have developed a Progressive Web Application which allows individuals to
find nearby locations where they can refill their sustainable water bottle
for free anywhere in Europe.
We strive to contribute to the builiding of a collaborative network of
foutains, cafes, restaurants and other establishments which are willing to
allow individuals to fill up their water bottle as part of the battle
agains single-use waste.  There are currently over 235,000 fountains and 70
cafés available on the App.

Our web App is available directly at https://europeanwaterproject.org
(installation instructions are in the hamburger menu).

A description of the project and the project genesis :
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1f0dts-RErPepgrEnddSAOh1rDqpxMYC3

Best regards,

Stuart Rapoport


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Re: [Talk-it] manca OpenStreetMap

[Volker Schmidt]

OK per me, con esclusione di cena e telegiornale dalle 19:30 alle 21.00

Volker

On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 10:21, Ivo Reano  wrote:

> Metti l'invitoLink e dicci a che ora.
>
>
> Il giorno ven 13 mar 2020 alle ore 10:16 Alessandro Sarretta <
> alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Vista la discussione stimolata da questa idea mi verrebbe da proporre una
>> chiacchierata online per vagliare disponibilità e opportunità.
>>
>> Qualcuno di voi sarebbe disponibile stasera?
>>
>> Ale
>> On 12/03/20 15:21, Marco Minghini wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Ciao a tutti,
>> bellissima idea!
>>
>>> Se avete stimoli o proposte fatevi avanti!
>>>
>> Su Youtube c'è una quantità immensa di video tutorial, sia su iD che su
>> JOSM (guardate ad esempio quelli fatti da HOT, Missing Maps o MapGive). A
>> seconda dello scopo si può cercare di coinvolgere il pubblico giusto, ad
>> esempio se attiviamo i contatti con le scuole (Wikimedia Italia può
>> aiutare) si possono insegnare le basi di OSM con iD; se invece vogliamo
>> coinvolgere chi OSM lo conosce già (ad esempio i frequentatori di questa
>> lista o del gruppo Telegram) un bel tutorial su JOSM (o perchè no su
>> Overpass) sarebbe interessante...
>>
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Re: [talk-cz] PID import dat

[Jozef Matejička]

CC0 podle  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility by
měla býti kompatibilní.

Vypadá to, že data již importoval uživatel Minimalis. Poslal jsem mu správu.

On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 21:51, Petr Schönmann  wrote:

> Ahoj, myslim ze trasy nemusis dolovat z polohy vozu. Tady by to slo taky.
> Nevim jak s licenci, ale pokud to jsou opendata tak by to snad slo ;)
> http://opendata.praha.eu/dataset/dpp-jizdni-rady
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 13:25 Jozef Matejička  wrote:
>
>> Na Root-u jsem našel článek o tom jak PID zveřejnil polohy autobusů.
>>
>> https://www.root.cz/clanky/sledovani-polohy-vozidel-pid-kde-je-prave-muj-autobus/
>>
>>
>> Někdo se tím již zaoberal? Ať neobjevuji Ameriku.
>>
>> Jestli licence je kompatibilní, zavžuji, že bych od nich vytáhnul trasy
>> linek v Praze.
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Détection de bâti manquant à partir de la Carte des déploiements fibre ?

[Vincent de Château-Thierry]

> De: "François Lacombe" 
> 
> Le mer. 11 mars 2020 à 14:39, Frédéric Rodrigo <
> fred.rodr...@gmail.com > a écrit :
> 
> 
> Cette base sert d'ailleurs de source à la BAN.
> 
> 
> 
> Je n'en suis pas sûr, quelle est ta source ?


Voir le schéma en bas de page : https://adresse.data.gouv.fr/donnees-nationales

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO et FANTOIR, 2 noms pour la même rue

[Vincent de Château-Thierry]

Bonjour,

> De: "Marc M." 
> 
> Le 13.03.20 à 08:20, Cyrille37 OSM a écrit :
> > Faut-il reporter ces 2 tags sur tous les tronçons de la rue ?
> 
> ref:FR:FANTOIR sur la relation doit suffire.
> peut-être que la ref a changé entre les données BANOv1 utilisé par le
> rendu et BANOv2 si c'est cette interface que tu utilises.
> Perso je ne tiens plus compte du rendu BANOv1 tant qu'il
> n'a pas basculé sur BANOv2, je n'utilises plus que l'interface v2

Cyrille, le rapprochement est bien effectué grâce au tag ref:FR:FANTOIR et 
visible ici : http://dev.cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/fantoir/#insee=37261=1

Le rendu n'est pas à jour de ce rapprochement car il puise dans la BANO v1, sa 
bascule sur la v2 est un chantier qui devrait prendre peu de temps si j'ai 
Christian à côté de moi à Toulouse début avril.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO et FANTOIR, 2 noms pour la même rue

[Marc M.]

Le 13.03.20 à 08:20, Cyrille37 OSM a écrit :
> Faut-il reporter ces 2 tags sur tous les tronçons de la rue ?

ref:FR:FANTOIR sur la relation doit suffire.
peut-être que la ref a changé entre les données BANOv1 utilisé par le
rendu et BANOv2 si c'est cette interface que tu utilises.
Perso je ne tiens plus compte du rendu BANOv1 tant qu'il
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] recycling ou waste_disposal

[Marc M.]

Le 12.03.20 à 22:11, hu9o via Talk-fr a écrit :
> J'utilise /amenity=recycling + recycling:waste=yes/ pour les plateaux de
> points d'apport volontaire enterrés.
> 
> Cela permet de ne faire qu'un seul node

si ce n'est que cela la raison, bin=yes fait tout aussi bien.

mais je comprend tout a fait qu'on fasse un recycling:waste
sur un objet avant d'autre recycling:*

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Re: [Talk-it] manca OpenStreetMap

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Metti l'invitoLink e dicci a che ora.


Il giorno ven 13 mar 2020 alle ore 10:16 Alessandro Sarretta <
alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Vista la discussione stimolata da questa idea mi verrebbe da proporre una
> chiacchierata online per vagliare disponibilità e opportunità.
>
> Qualcuno di voi sarebbe disponibile stasera?
>
> Ale
> On 12/03/20 15:21, Marco Minghini wrote:
>
> 
> Ciao a tutti,
> bellissima idea!
>
>> Se avete stimoli o proposte fatevi avanti!
>>
> Su Youtube c'è una quantità immensa di video tutorial, sia su iD che su
> JOSM (guardate ad esempio quelli fatti da HOT, Missing Maps o MapGive). A
> seconda dello scopo si può cercare di coinvolgere il pubblico giusto, ad
> esempio se attiviamo i contatti con le scuole (Wikimedia Italia può
> aiutare) si possono insegnare le basi di OSM con iD; se invece vogliamo
> coinvolgere chi OSM lo conosce già (ad esempio i frequentatori di questa
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Projet du mois de mars - #balanceTaBorne - problème des prise type3 <> type3c

[Marc M.]

Bonjour,

Le 12.03.20 à 21:07, Noémie Lehuby via Talk-fr a écrit :
> - on modifie l'analyse Osmose (car dans les fichiers open data, on a en
> général "T3", et Osmose le transforme aujourd'hui en socket:type3)

ok

> - on modifie les bornes en France qui ont le tag socket:type3 en
> socket:type3c, en ayant vérifié au préalable sur le site de chaque
> réseau ou opérateur concerné que c'est bien le cas

ok mais comment veux-tu vérifier chaque réseau ?
en cherchant la photo d'une de leur borne ? en les contactant ?

> Je pense qu'on aura à faire ensuite également le socket:schuko vers
> socket:typee ;)

j'y ai pensé aussi, mais je me suis dis que c'était mieux
dans un autre sujet, après avoir abouti pour les 3c :)

Cordialement,
Marc


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [osm-fr asso] SNT: on coule sous le vandalisme et assimilé

[Vincent Bergeot]

Le 12/03/2020 à 18:04, Vincent Bergeot a écrit :

Le 12/03/2020 à 17:57, Donat ROBAUX a écrit :

Marc M. wrote

osmbot sur #osm-fr-annonce signale les nouveaux et la créations de note
avec un résumé de celle-ci.

Concrètement? Je ne vois pas comment faire.


pour ma part je pars de cela https://tyrasd.github.io/osm-qa-feeds/

et ensuite je génère les flux rss qui m'intéresse (que cela soit pour 
les notes, les nouveaux, ...)


je les mets dans mon lecteur de flux rss et tous les matins je regarde 
ce qui se passe sur la gironde et les alentours :)



et voici le contenu du message que je mets au nouveau-nouvelle :

Bonjour et bienvenue dans OpenStreetMap,
nouvelle-nouveau, un petit mot ici pour faciliter votre arrivée : 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:WikiProject_France/bienvenue


Cas particulier / Si vous êtes en seconde, en cours de SNT, veuillez 
faire suivre à votre enseignant-e le lien suivant 
https://dane.ac-lyon.fr/spip/spip.php?article628 (par avance merci !).


Dans tous les cas, n'hésitez pas à répondre, poser des questions, ...
Vincent

PS : 2 liens souvent utiles :

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Bonnes_pratiques#N.27utilisez_pas_de_tag_name_pour_d.C3.A9crire_des_choses. 



https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Bonnes_pratiques#Bons_commentaires_de_groupe_de_modifications 




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Re: [Talk-it] manca OpenStreetMap

[Alessandro Sarretta]

Vista la discussione stimolata da questa idea mi verrebbe da proporre 
una chiacchierata online per vagliare disponibilità e opportunità.


Qualcuno di voi sarebbe disponibile stasera?

Ale

On 12/03/20 15:21, Marco Minghini wrote:


Ciao a tutti,
bellissima idea!

Se avete stimoli o proposte fatevi avanti!

Su Youtube c'è una quantità immensa di video tutorial, sia su iD che 
su JOSM (guardate ad esempio quelli fatti da HOT, Missing Maps o 
MapGive). A seconda dello scopo si può cercare di coinvolgere il 
pubblico giusto, ad esempio se attiviamo i contatti con le scuole 
(Wikimedia Italia può aiutare) si possono insegnare le basi di OSM con 
iD; se invece vogliamo coinvolgere chi OSM lo conosce già (ad esempio 
i frequentatori di questa lista o del gruppo Telegram) un bel tutorial 
su JOSM (o perchè no su Overpass) sarebbe interessante...


Marco

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [osm-fr asso] SNT: on coule sous le vandalisme et assimilé

[Vincent Bergeot]

Le 13/03/2020 à 10:04, Marc M. a écrit :

Bonjour Vincent-Xavier,

Le 12.03.20 à 21:02, Vincent-Xavier JUMEL a écrit :

plutôt qu'une fois de plus taper sur les profs.

non je ne tappe pas sur les profs, je cherche une solution réaliste à
court terme.
- soit plus de bras communautaire pour rendre cela humainement possible
- soit contact avec l'école
- soit dev d'un outil permettant de gagner du temps
- autre idée

mais me dire

Le vrai fautif est la direction générale de l'enseignement scolaire

cela me fait une belle jambe. je téléphone à la direction
pour qu'ils nettoyent les notes et fasse les reverts ?
j'ai comme un doute quand au résultat à court terme.
mais un contact "+ haut" est tout a fait une piste possible
et sans doute souhaitable avec un horizon de résultat à + long terme

Cordialement,
Marc


je plussoie ce que vous dites tous les 2 :D (<- normand va )

Vincent-Xavier, si tu as eu l'impression que l'on tape sur les profs, ce 
n'est pas l'intention, je rapelle à chaque fois dans la majorité de mes 
échanges avec l'éducation nationale que la faute est à "pas de formation".


Marc_marc, je plussoie les 3 points :

- soit plus de bras communautaire pour rendre cela humainement possible
- soit contact avec l'école
- soit dev d'un outil permettant de gagner du temps

peut-on imaginer un commentaire "automatique de changeset" lors du 
premier changeset ?


Contenu à définir mais avec prise en compte de la situation particulière 
lié au SNT :)


Je crois que tu avais évoqué une initiative belge d'accueil des nouveaux ?

PS : nous oscillons entre osm-fr et talk-fr, je pense que la discussion 
est plutôt à avoir sur talk-fr (pour une mise en oeuvre technique, on 
verra quel soutien peut amener osm-fr)



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] TELECOM :: Avis demandé

[François Lacombe]

Bonjour Jacques,

Tout ce qui comporte
ref:FR:ARCEP

FI-86070-0002
est un point de mutualisation fibre.

Il est possible d'ajouter utility=telecom si tu le souhaites (à moyen terme
street_cabinet=telecom pourrait être remplacé).

Bonne journée

François

Le jeu. 12 mars 2020 à 17:32, Jacques Lavignotte  a
écrit :

>
> Bonjour,
>
> pas du tout certain que :
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7289040768
>
> soir un PM du FTTH.
>
> https://framapic.org/gallery#YjUsykpdZqD4/SHkecVziGGEz.jpg
>
> Over.
>
> J.
>
> ps : merci.
>
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> « Quand est-ce qu'on mange ? » AD (c) (tm)
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Détection de bâti manquant à partir de la Carte des déploiements fibre ?

[François Lacombe]

Salut à tous

+1 avec Yves, c'est un très bon cas d'usage

Le mer. 11 mars 2020 à 14:39, Frédéric Rodrigo  a
écrit :

> Oui c'est tout à fait un job pour Osmose ça. On pourra l'activer le 1er
> avril, ça fera sont petit effet.
>

Oui, à double titre :
https://www.arcep.fr/actualites/agenda-et-evenements/detail/n/conference-annuelle-territoires-connectes-cartes-sur-table.html


> Cette base sert d'ailleurs de source à la BAN.
>

Je n'en suis pas sûr, quelle est ta source ?

Orange me dit le contraire ici :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WfW5EO3zmU=53s

Bonne journée

François
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] SNT: on coule sous le vandalisme et assimilé

[Cyrille37 OSM via Talk-fr]

Salut

Nous avons "de la chance" car dans d'autres pays (continent africain par 
ex.) ce ne sont pas de simples notes, mais des building et autres formes 
créatives qui sont encore plus difficiles à détecter.


C/.

Le 12/03/2020 à 17:35, Marc M. a écrit :

Bonjour,

depuis 2 jours, on coule (les rares que nous sommes à essayer de faire
un suivit des nouveaux au jour le jour), principalement sous des notes
du genre https://osm.org/note/2119184 au point que j'ai demandé un tmp
ban sur osm.org
je ne peux que supposer que les enfants se défoulent dans les environs
de leur école et qu'avoir un moyen de contact identifié comme le
conseille/demande la politique "contribution guidée" serrait une très
bonne chose. à défaut, quelqu'un a-t-il mieux à conseiller que de
regarder l'école la + proche, prendre son téléphone et se plaindre ?

Cordialement,
Marc

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO et FANTOIR, 2 noms pour la même rue

[Philippe Verdy]

BANO n'est pas toujours au point sur les données issues des communes
ou du FANTOIR, qui ne sont pas exemptes d'erreurs ou de doublon.
Dans l'outil FANTOIR il faut le signaler (ce qui éteint l'alerte mais
garde ça en mémoire) et en attendant taguer selon le terrain et
pourquoi pas avec alt_name=* si on trouve deux orthographes dans deux
sources officielles ou sur les panneaux publics, ou si l'orthographe
est communément utilisée par les résidents (exemple dans les
enregistrements du registre du commerce, ou les adresses postales
"officielles" de certaines administrations).
La carte n'est pas obligée d'afficher les alt_name=* mais Nominatim
devrait trouver ces noms pour les recherches quand il les aura
indexés.

Le ven. 13 mars 2020 à 08:20, Cyrille37 OSM
 a écrit :
>
> Hello
>
> Une rue est nommée "Rue de Sapaillé" sur le cadastre et BANO la voit
> comme "Rue de Sapaillet". En octobre 2019 j'ai ajouté à la relation un
> "alt_name" et "ref:FR:FANTOIR" correspondant aux attendus de BANO, mais
> aujourd'hui BANO signale toujours que la rue n'est pas trouvée. Faut-il
> reporter ces 2 tags sur tous les tronçons de la rue ?
>
> copie d'écran: https://framapic.org/1PvDqbJ3Onps/GSJuXDrwoAMz.png
>
> Merci et belle journée à tou·te·s
> Cyrille37.
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[OSM-talk-fr] BANO et FANTOIR, 2 noms pour la même rue

[Cyrille37 OSM]

Hello

Une rue est nommée "Rue de Sapaillé" sur le cadastre et BANO la voit 
comme "Rue de Sapaillet". En octobre 2019 j'ai ajouté à la relation un 
"alt_name" et "ref:FR:FANTOIR" correspondant aux attendus de BANO, mais 
aujourd'hui BANO signale toujours que la rue n'est pas trouvée. Faut-il 
reporter ces 2 tags sur tous les tronçons de la rue ?


copie d'écran: https://framapic.org/1PvDqbJ3Onps/GSJuXDrwoAMz.png

Merci et belle journée à tou·te·s
Cyrille37.


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Projet du mois de mars - #balanceTaBorne

[Noémie Lehuby via Talk-fr]

Bonjour,


voici quelques statistiques de notre projet du mois en cours :
Il y a environ 28 mille points de recharge pour voitures électriques en 
France, dans OSM nous en avons presque 7 500.

Voici l'évolution depuis le début du mois :


Comme vous pouvez le voir c'est un début ... assez timide :

 * seules 152 bornes pour voiture ont été ajoutées
 * 2 bornes pour vélo ont été ajoutées :(


Nous avons en revanche beaucoup amélioré les détails des bornes déjà 
présentes, notamment grâce à l'analyse Osmose 
 
open data :


 * il nous reste encore environ 500 bornes où l'open data peut aider à
   préciser
 * un challenge Pic4Review
    et un challenge
   MapRoulette  sont
   également dispo pour compléter le nombre de place de charge des
   bornes à partir des imageries dispo

*Noémie Lehuby
* Jungle Bus

icone twitter.png @busjungle 
favicon http://junglebus.io 

Le 01/03/2020 à 19:07, François Lacombe a écrit :

Hello

Merci Noémie pour la préparation !
Cela a été l'occasion de se poser quelques question sur les tags 
existant et d'apporter quelques corrections mineures.


Les données issues de ce projet seront d'autant de bonne qualité que 
nous nous rendrons sur le terrain à mon avis (quitte à utiliser Osmose 
pour guider ses déplacements)


Je mettrai un tweet sur le sujet demain matin

Bonne fin de weekend

François

Le dim. 1 mars 2020 à 10:33, Noémie Lehuby via Talk-fr 
mailto:talk-fr@openstreetmap.org>> a écrit :


Bonjour,

Plus de 28 000 points de recharge pour véhicules électriques de
recharge existent en France.
Votre mission, si vous l’acceptez, est de cartographier toutes les
bornes servant de support à ces points de recharge.

Nous en avons déjà repéré environ 4 000, félicitations. Mais le
compte n’y est pas !

Vous l’aurez compris, il va s’agir d’une mission de terrain :
ouvrons l’œil et n’en manquons aucune !

Et comme pour chaque mission, nous pouvons nous appuyer sur ces
précieux outils : MapContrib

,
MapRoulette ,
Mapillary, Pic4Review
, NotesReview

,
etc.

Le mot-dièse de cette mission est #balanceTaBorne. Pensez à
l’indiquer dans vos changesets, vos notes OSM et vos
communications sur les réseaux sociaux.

Les détails plus précis de cette mission sont à retrouver sur la
page de wiki

.

Bonne chance !

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Noémie Lehuby

Jungle Bus -http://junglebus.io

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