Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
On Tuesday, January 25, 2000, 1:54:34 PM, Nick Andriash wrote: I have "auto correct" enabled A clarification on the above statement... I have "Automatic Checking" enabled, as "Auto Correct" doesn't work for me, and never has. Good point. I can't find anything in the help file that states exactly what 'auto correct' is -supposed- to do. Because now that you mention it, I'm not so sure it's doing anything right now. Clarification anyone? -- No matter how good your market research may be, I assure you that I am not interested in your product. Don't add me to your mailing list and don't ask me to "simply reply to remove myself". Just leave me alone. [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.phred.net/~phred -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
On Tuesday, January 25, 2000, 2:09:00 PM, Fred Weissman wrote: "Ignore All" as I understand it, tells the checker to ignore all occurrences of that word for -this- message (or use) only. Since it's not being added to the user dictionary, it will flag it as unknown/incorrect the next time the spell checker is called into action. That's correct Fred... although TB's Spell Checker doesn't ignore all future occurrences of the word in that one message... it keeps on flagging them for some reason. Do you use Auto Correct? If so, what's the secret to enabling it, other than the obvious option of turning it on via Spell Checker/Options/Auto Correct? I've taken a look at the Correct.tlx Dictionary, and it's full of words, so I would imagine it's loaded on my install... just not useable? Hmmm ... I just played around with a few things and I do think we've discovered a bug. Oops, e, I mean an undocumented negative feature. First off, under 'spell checker' from the edit window, I have 'automatic checking' enabled. Under options, I have 'auto correct' enabled. I just wrote typed the word "wrong" incorrectly three times: wrng wrng wrng At first they were flagged as incorrect. I right-clicked on one of them and selected 'ignore all' and the red line did not disappear. Then I opened up the actual spell checker window by right-clicking one of the incorrect words and selecting 'suggest more'. I then selected 'ignore all' and the red line disappeared. I deleted them, and retyped them again, and they are not flagged now. I opened up a new message window and typed in 'wrng' and it was not flagged. Then I closed Bat completely and reopened it. I typed 'wrng' again, and now it is flagged. BUT the three 'wrng' above, and not flagged. Methinks the right-click version of 'ignore all' isn't connected to anything. IOW, it doesn't work. And I hope the guys at RIT are reading this. I know this doesn't solve your problem, but it certainly confirms that something is wrng. Oops ... I mean wrong. -- Judging from realistic simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, if a huge asteroid hits the earth we can assume it will be pretty bad. [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.phred.net/~phred -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
On Wednesday, January 26, 2000, 7:15:11 AM, Fred Weissman wrote: Methinks the right-click version of 'ignore all' isn't connected to anything. IOW, it doesn't work. And I hope the guys at RIT are reading this. I sent off a letter yesterday to RIT Research Labs about the problem... for me, it's one of the only weak points about the Editor I can find, but an important one as I don't want to employ an external Spell Checker. Nick -- -=Nick Andriash=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Keys available from KeyServers --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
On Wednesday, January 26, 2000, 7:19:26 AM, Fred Weissman wrote: I can't find anything in the help file that states exactly what 'auto correct' is -supposed- to do. Because now that you mention it, I'm not so sure it's doing anything right now. Fred, it's supposed to automatically correct common mistyping's ;o) such as Febuary... in which case, as soon as you are finished the word _and_ the word exists in the correct.tlx Dictionary, then the word would/should automatically be corrected to February for you without the user having to do anything. Very nice! And on a final note... you are absolutely correct... that feature isn't working at the moment, but hopefully I'll hear back from RIT Labs with a plan to resolve the problem. Nick -- -=Nick Andriash=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Keys available from KeyServers --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
In Reference to "Spell Checker Oddity ?" From Nick Andriash: NA Fred, it's supposed to automatically correct common mistyping's ;o) such NA as Febuary... in which case, as soon as you are finished the word _and_ NA the word exists in the correct.tlx Dictionary, then the word would/should NA automatically be corrected to February for you without the user having to NA do anything. It's there, just quirky. If you type Febuary you'll notice a more squared off underline than the usual zigzag type for misspelling. For those words a double right click will "auto correct". I think there is also a keyboard shortcut but what it is alludes me at the moment. HTH -- - Nick Nick Danger's Complimentary Curse (©¿©): May an imaginary number of lackluster forest rangers take a wicked dump on your stove. Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:38:10 -0800, Nick Andriash wrote: ==8 Fred, it's supposed to automatically correct common mistyping's ;o) such as Febuary... in which case, as soon as you are finished the word _and_ the word exists in the correct.tlx Dictionary, then the word would/should automatically be corrected to February for you without the user having to do anything. Very nice! And on a final note... you are absolutely correct... that feature isn't working at the moment, but hopefully I'll hear back from RIT Labs with a plan to resolve the problem. I see under the spellchecker menu, an option for automatic checking. Where's this autochecking option? I don't see it anywhere. :-/ -- -=Allie=- | Using The Bat! v1.39 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- [ Black Holes are Out of Sight ] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
In Reference to "Spell Checker Oddity ?" From Nick Andriash: NA Fred, it's supposed to automatically correct common mistyping's ;o) such NA as Febuary... in which case, as soon as you are finished the word _and_ NA the word exists in the correct.tlx Dictionary, then the word would/should NA automatically be corrected to February for you without the user having to NA do anything. It's there, just quirky. If you type Febuary you'll notice a more squared off underline than the usual zigzag type for misspelling. For those words a double right click will "auto correct". I think there is also a keyboard shortcut but what it is alludes me at the moment. AH HAH! I've noticed that 'different' underline and never realized why. Thanks. And yes, a double-right-click does auto correct it. But that's not exactly -auto- in my mind. Auto should mean no user intervention. When (if) you get an answer from RIT, would you mind forwarding it to me, as the traffic here is getting to the point where I'm barely skimming the subject headers. Thanks again. -- Please grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I had to kill because they pissed me off. [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.phred.net/~phred -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
On Wednesday, January 26, 2000, 10:13:28 AM, Allie Martin wrote: I see under the spellchecker menu, an option for automatic checking. Where's this autochecking option? I don't see it anywhere. :-/ Well the option is invoked if you simply choose the option off the Spell Checker Menu, and becomes the default unless you un-check it... you'll notice if you choose it, it puts a check mark next to it. Nick -- -=Nick Andriash=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Keys available from KeyServers --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
On Tuesday, January 26, 1999, 8:54:45 AM, Nick Danger wrote: It's there, just quirky. If you type Febuary you'll notice a more squared off underline than the usual zigzag type for misspelling. For those words a double right click will "auto correct". I think there is also a keyboard shortcut but what it is alludes me at the moment. Thanks Nick... always saw the bolded line, but didn't realize that double right clicking would do the trick... such a "feature" isn't documented anywhere. :o) Nick -- -=Nick Andriash=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Keys available from KeyServers --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
In Reference to "Spell Checker Oddity ?" From Nick Andriash: It's there, just quirky. If you type Febuary you'll notice a more squared off underline than the usual zigzag type for misspelling. For those words a double right click will "auto correct". NA Thanks Nick... always saw the bolded line, but didn't realize that double NA right clicking would do the trick... such a "feature" isn't documented NA anywhere. :o) It's there under Spell Checking: "- Intelligent suggestions for misspelled words - SSCE can locate suggested replacements using either typographical (looks like) or phonetic (sounds like) matching. Suggestions are scored by the degree of closeness with the misspelled word, and the list of suggestions is returned in decreasing score order. The most commonly misspelled words are underlined by square-wave-line and can be corrected with mouse double-click on this word" ...but kind of hidden in gobs of text! -- - Nick Nick Danger's Complimentary Curse (©¿©): May 4,000 subhuman wine stewards play hockey in your pocket. Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
NA Thanks Nick... always saw the bolded line, but didn't realize that double NA right clicking would do the trick... such a "feature" isn't documented NA anywhere. :o) It's there under Spell Checking: "- Intelligent suggestions for misspelled words - SSCE can locate suggested replacements using either typographical (looks like) or phonetic (sounds like) matching. Suggestions are scored by the degree of closeness with the misspelled word, and the list of suggestions is returned in decreasing score order. The most commonly misspelled words are underlined by square-wave-line and can be corrected with mouse double-click on this word" ...but kind of hidden in gobs of text! "Hidden" being the operative word. I must've read the help file for the spell checker half a dozen times during this thread and I never -once- saw that paragraph. I did, however, find a number of occasions where the word "directory" is used instead of "dictionary." -- Whenever I start getting sad about where I am in my life, I think about the last words of my favorite uncle: "A TRUCK" [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.phred.net/~phred -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
On Wednesday, January 26, 2000, 11:28:57 AM, Nick Danger wrote: It's there under Spell Checking: quoted snipped ...but kind of hidden in gobs of text! Well, I'll be darned!! I must have read that section a dozen times, and it STILL didn't register with me!! ;o) Thanks Nick... Nick -- -=Nick Andriash=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Keys available from KeyServers --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
On Wednesday, January 26, 2000, 6:35:50 PM, Januk Aggarwal wrote: But that's not exactly -auto- in my mind. Auto should mean no user intervention. Not necessarily. I think it is far better this way, since I may have a valid reason for typing a misspelled word in a given message. I can't think of a good example right now, but I'm sure you can think of something. :) I usually use thes (sic) as my way of indicating a purposely misspelled word, but I know what you mean. :o) Nick -- -=Nick Andriash=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Keys available from KeyServers --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
Hello Nick, On Wednesday, January 26, 2000 at 19:49:47 GMT -0800 (which was 7:49 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: On Wednesday, January 26, 2000, 6:35:50 PM, Januk Aggarwal wrote: But that's not exactly -auto- in my mind. Auto should mean no user intervention. Not necessarily. I think it is far better this way, since I may have a valid reason for typing a misspelled word in a given message. I can't think of a good example right now, but I'm sure you can think of something. :) I usually use thes (sic) as my way of indicating a purposely misspelled word, That's a good way of doing it, but if the "Auto" Correct option tried to change it on you, your "(sic)" would refer to a correctly spelled word. And that might not make any sense at all... :) I personally don't like Auto-Correctors. They are handy if you're typing fast, but what if you type something like: "...and, hwo are you?" ^^^ Should it read, "...and, how are you?" or "...and, who are you?" At least if it stays hwo, it is more likely one will catch the mistake. If the Spell Checker forces the wrong one, it can be hard to find the mistake, even with a proof read. Especially in e-mail where tone is *extremely* important. If one asks "How are you," it is generally a nice friendly question, but "Who are you," can be taken as very offensive, in the right context. The way TB does it is very nice, it makes it very easy to find obvious mistakes. Just a little more than my two cents worth... :) -- Thanks for writing Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell Checker Oddity ?
I have "auto correct" enabled, and if I see a word that's been underlined because of a spelling error, but decide not to add the word to my User's Dictionary... or correct it, and choose "Ignore All"... if I happen to type the word again, the Spell Checker will underline it yet again, as if to ignore it's own "Ignore All" feature? That behavior is similar to the spell checker in MSWord, among others. "Ignore All" as I understand it, tells the checker to ignore all occurrences of that word for -this- message (or use) only. Since it's not being added to the user dictionary, it will flag it as unknown/incorrect the next time the spell checker is called into action. HTH. -- I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.phred.net/~phred -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
