Re[2]: Filters
Hello Roelof, Friday, October 28, 2005, 3:57:01 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Jack, RO On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:09:13 -0500GMT (28-10-2005, 4:09 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: JSL Roelof, your suggestion looked considerably more elegant and I tried JSL to make it work but, alas, it wouldn't. I eliminated ALL the strings JSL and substituted for them just the @ sign. I then defined the AB JSL containing all the senders as a color group and specified this group JSL in the ADVANCED tab. I would have loved to have had this work because JSL of your observation that by simply maintaining the AB, I wouldn't ever JSL have to change the filter as senders came and went. RO It should work when you've defined everything properly. I've been RO using filtering on AB groups since v1 and never in v2 it stopped RO working. RO But you're mentioning colour groups and I mentioned AB groups, those RO are different things, colour groups are assigned to messages and AB RO groups are assigned to addresses in your address book. RO Note that AB templates (yes, that's something else) get messed up when RO you're having multiple entries with the same address, the same could RO be valid for filtering on AB groups. You're right of course. I went back and looked again at the filter, specifically the ADVANCED tab and only then noticed there was a slider bar on the right of the dialog box. Sliding the bar down exposes the rest of the choices which includes specifying a particular AB. I re-configured the filter as per your previous instructions and it works perfectly. Again, thank you. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now running TB! v2.11.02 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters
Hello Roelof, Thursday, October 27, 2005, 6:11:10 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Jack, RO On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 05:47:41 -0500GMT (26-10-2005, 12:47 +0200, where RO I live), you wrote: JSL I see that I have accidently mislead everyone by the content of my JSL original text. I used the words individual folders implying multiple JSL folder destinations when I should have said a single folder as a JSL destination. RO In that case, why don't you place all relevant contacts in one address RO book (AB) group, set the condition of the filter to '@' in the sender RO and in the advanced tab you set the sender should be in the AB group RO you just created. RO This makes it easy when one of said contacts changes his address, you RO don't have to change your filter, because you've done address RO maintenance in your AB. My heartfelt thanks to all who have tried to help me with this problem. I finally did what I should have done in the beginning, namely 'if all else fails, read the instructions.' I was actually able to find the solution by reading TB's HELP section on filters. I learned that when using the ALTERNATIVES tab, each string, which represents a different sender, must be in a 'set' alone because the strings are ANDed when they are all in the same set. I created a different 'set' for each sender and specified kuldges as the place for the filter to look. The filter works just as I wanted. Roelof, your suggestion looked considerably more elegant and I tried to make it work but, alas, it wouldn't. I eliminated ALL the strings and substituted for them just the @ sign. I then defined the AB containing all the senders as a color group and specified this group in the ADVANCED tab. I would have loved to have had this work because of your observation that by simply maintaining the AB, I wouldn't ever have to change the filter as senders came and went. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now running TB! v2.11.02 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters
Hello Mica, Tuesday, October 25, 2005, 9:38:04 AM, you wrote: MM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MM Hash: RIPEMD160 MM***^\ ._)~~ MM ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 25 Oct 2005, MM@ @ at 05:58:49 -0500, when Jack S. LaRosa wrote: I can't seem to figure out how to get a single filter to route incoming mail to individual folders based on the sender field. MM As for this part, I would use this... MM Rule -| Source folder: Inbox MM Move messages to folder: some individual folder MM Filtering strings -| Location: Kludges MM Strings: [the From header] MM Presence: Yes Thank you Mica. I will try this. MM ...but as for this part down... I have one name in the RULE tab under FILTERING STRINGS and the remainder of the names in the ALTERNATIVES tab. The filter is in the INCOMING MAIL folder. MM You might also try combination with addition of the remainder of the MM names not in the Alternatives tab, but right after the first name in the MM Rule tab. I remember trying this a long time ago and it didn't work. It was (or became) a thread to which someone replied suggesting using the ALTERNATIVES tab. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now running TB! v2.11.02 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters
Hello Bill, Tuesday, October 25, 2005, 11:46:01 AM, you wrote: BM On Tue, 2005-10-25, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: I can't seem to figure out how to get a single filter to route incoming mail to individual folders based on the sender field. I have one name in the RULE tab under FILTERING STRINGS and the remainder of the names in the ALTERNATIVES tab. The filter is in the INCOMING MAIL folder. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? BM Yes, you seem to be trying to get a single (complicated) filter to move BM messages to different folders based on sender! I see that I have accidently mislead everyone by the content of my original text. I used the words individual folders implying multiple folder destinations when I should have said a single folder as a destination. Apologies. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now running TB! v2.11.02 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, October 25, 2005, 7:50:27 AM, you wrote: TF Where are you? TF I go to Account / Sorting Office. I go to Incoming Mail and I have a TF General tab, not a Rules tab. I do not have an Alternatives tab. He is using version 2.11.02 which uses the old filtering system. I don't remember how to use the old system and I don't have access to an old copy. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.62 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters - anyone know when they'll be sorted?
Currently we're testing release candidate 5 for TB 3.01, so I guess the most waiting has been done. Sorry but that info means nothing to me - do you mean there is never an RC6 or that there isn't usually, or... And do you _know_ that the filter business has been sorted in 3.01? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters - anyone know when they'll be sorted?
A And do you _know_ that the filter business has been sorted in 3.01? Nobody is complaining about non functional filters anymore in the beta list, that's the only thing I can say. I think they're right, but 'knowing' it, is something else. I'm holding my breath... ... ... ...gasp... maybe not :-0) -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters - anyone know when they'll be sorted?
I was having a lot of trouble with filters prior to RC3 but now they have gone away. What were your problems ? They are not working! They will work if each individual folder is manually re-filtered, but leave them to themselves and they don't - seems to be mainly the Common Filters (yes, I have ticked all the folders in the thrid tab!) -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters - rearranging
Hello Roelof, -- Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 3:54:02 PM, you wrote: Hallo Joe, On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:53:30 -0400GMT (14-9-2004, 20:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: J I some noce filters build. I have to make some changes to them for J various reasons. The one change is just to insert an AND in the J mix. It seems I can only append. I can't insert or rearrange. Am I J missing something. Most filters have Move Up and Move Down J buttons. You can place your filter at your preferred position by selecting the filter and move it with Crtl-Up or Ctrl-Down Yes, this works great to move the complete filter up or down the list of filters. I want to rearrange the filter itself. For example: I have a filter that has a block. In that block is an AND and an OR. I want to move the OR up before the block and maybe insert another OR. I have to delete the whole filter and start over. I can't insert, only append. Am I missing something? -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters in v3 (and perhaps v2 as well for all I know)
Hi Roelof, Thursday, September 9, 2004, 2:55:34 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Stuart, SM Filters are driving me potty. RO Don't despair. Aargh!!! I am trying. SM namely a *ist D - a stupid name I know. RO But a nice camera Indeed. SM However, what I really want to do, is delete any messages SM that do not contain these. RO ACK SM However, having removed the virtual folder and create a new filter SM on the inbox using the same criteria I find I get NO matches!! RO I guess that you had a filter in place that moved Pentax messages to RO another folder. Now if you follow that with a filter that will be RO triggered by a subselection of the same messages it won't do that, RO unless you set the option 'continue processing with other filters' RO (both v2 and v3) or when you make the second filter a subfilter for RO the first (v3 only) RO As you're looking for something that'll work for both v2 and v3, you RO could try this: I am now on v3. I am trying to find the regular expression that will match, in general syntax terms [*]ist[-][d] in the subject line or main text (where [] denotes optional and this is a complete word so I do not get matches on words beginning with ist) I assume this should be something along these lines: (?i)^*?ist-?d?$ where: (?i) says case does not matter (is this the default anyway?) ^ is meant to indicate this is the start of a word *? is meant to indicate zero or one * -? is meant to indicate zero or one - d? is meant to indicate zero or one d $ is meant to indicate that this is the end of the word I am guessing that * and - have special meanings so I can not do it this way. RO Note: Most people tend to skip on characters that are neither letter RO nor number (hardly anybody on this list talks about 'The Bat!') and RO unless Pentax owners differ on this point (what I cannot imagine, RO myself owning a Pentax as secondary camera) they'll tend to skip the RO asterix, so you could do that too. Sadly, a very high proportion of the members include the *. Stuart -- Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are not confused : you are misinformed Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters, Spam and Edits
On Thursday, August 28, 2003, 9:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re: editing an inbox message: PJ If there is now a way to do so I would be thrilled to learn how! R Well, actually it is possible, but not solely with TB: R Export the message R Edit the subject with Notepad or another text editor. R Import the message back into TB. R Now you can delete the original message. R One disadvantage of this method is the the received time/date gets R changed into the time you've imported it. Roelof, Can you tell me exactly how I would export and import back? I see an export option under Tools but neither the msg or eml formats seem to be editable. I'm sure it's obvious but I can't figure it out. Thanks! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston 8/28/03 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters, Spam and Edits - test
Thursday, August 28, 2003, 11:32:17 AM, MAU wrote: M As you say, it is probably the easiest method. However, you M must be aware that this method does change some of the M original RFC-822 header lines. Good point. The solution is not perfect, but likely suffices in most situations. I solve (actually avoid) the problem by not adding the e-mail classification to my Subject: line. This was already suggested. -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters don't work
Hello MAU, Monday, July 28, 2003, 3:23:18 PM, you wrote: I am receiving masses of spam emails every day through my inbox. I have gone into the specials tools and set lots and lots of filters to capture this rubbish. But the next mail-out just comes to me without filtering out what I don't want. What is happening is that the spammers just change their email address or the Subject line and again the spam gets past my filters. How can I set my filters to capture this stuff that does'nt rely on the email address or the subject line being identical on each mail-out. -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters don't work
Hello Bill, Sunday, July 27, 2003, 10:00:15 PM, you wrote: BM How about an example of a filter that doesn't work along with the BM appropriate fields of an email that it didn't work on. BTW, make sure BM you test it at the top of the list of filters so you are sure other BM filters are not causing the problem filter to not be reached. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mxzilla4.xs4all.nl (mxzilla4.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.48]) by maildrop8.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6RHxr8w060675 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:59:53 +0200 (CEST) X-XS4ALL-DNSBL-Checked: mxzilla4.xs4all.nl checked 66.135.197.9 against DNS blacklists X-XS4ALL-Pad: empty Received: from mx6.sjc.ebay.com (mxpool03.ebay.com [66.135.197.9]) by mxzilla4.xs4all.nl (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6RHxp0i046973 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:59:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from india.sjc.ebay.com (india.sjc.ebay.com [10.6.172.78]) by mx6.sjc.ebay.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id h6RHxm0s004519 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:59:48 -0700 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-eBay-MailTracker: 10003.309.146.596 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary===_MIME-Boundary-1_== Subject: Bod bevestigd: 2313 Poul Winslow C without filter unused (Objectnummer 3233605311) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:59:51 PDT X-UIDL: 1059328793.maildrop8.60677 The filter is today a kind of a mess g, because I tried yesterday several ways. And it's the second filter after the 'Known' filter which is not active. BeginFilter Name: eBay Active: 1 Source: \\xs-joskla\Inbox Target: \\xs-joskla\Inbox\eBay CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actions: AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: DelAddrItems: HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter -- Best regards, Jos Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters don't work
Hello Alexander, Sunday, July 27, 2003, 11:05:34 PM, you wrote: A The main set is always AND. You won't receive an email that contains all A of the addresses you've specified. A You have to specify the other addresses on the Alternatives tab with the A Add set button. It will look like... A MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A AltSet:1: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A AltSet:2: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Since you wrote your filters ceased to work... well, I doubt this one A ever worked. :-) Indeed, this one never worked g. And I believe now I made the same big mistake, because of my ignorance, with the other ones (added strings the same way). Tomorrow I'll test this Alternatives tab.., and so far many thanks. -- Best regards, Jos Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters
Hello Thomas, Monday, March 17, 2003, 10:28:12 PM, you wrote: So the rules are ANDed? How do I get them to be ORed? TF If they are all on the first tab (Rule, then they are ANDed. If you TF put conditions onto the second tab (Alternatives), each alternative TF is ORed to the first tab and to all other alternative rules. Now, each TF of these can again have multiple ANDed conditions, which you add by TF using Alt-Ins. TF However, for this list I have only one condition: TF String: Reply-To:.*TBUDL TF Presence in: Kludges TF Under the Options tab, I have activated Regular Expressions, so that TF this dot-asterisk is interpreted as any characters. I believe I TF copied this from the welcome mail or somewhere. OK, thanks. I see that I don not have the_bat.hlp. Can someone send it to me or tell me where I can snarf a copy from? TF If you donwload the latest version of TB and run the install routine, TF the Help will be installed automatically. I have 1.60 and am happy with it. Does 1.62 represent an important improvement? Thanks. -- Pete Holsberg Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters
Tuesday, March 18, 2003, 3:31:33 AM, you wrote: PH I have 1.60 and am happy with it. Does 1.62 represent an important PH improvement? RO The most important improvement for you would be that you'd have a RO help-file. Well, if someone would email me the help file, I could save a download and reinstall. :-) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, at 10:28:12 [GMT +0700] (which was 18/03/2003 (D/M/Y) 4:28 where I live) you wrote: TF so that TF this dot-asterisk is interpreted as any characters I do not see the need of .* If tbudl is present, it is, whatever is around. I use tbudl as a filterinf string, and it works fine. - -- Best regards, Joan Josep -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt - build 08 Comment: KeyID: 0xF6A61F93 iQA/AwUBPnd7U97hKWb2ph+TEQL7ywCfVPkRBSUGFlG2bQLBkEjgJv5cD0wAnRpD hdyJLHRjazbekDd9D3uOhcXx =pX7v -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters
Hello Roelof, Monday, March 17, 2003, 7:17:41 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Pete, RO On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:46:08 -0500GMT (18-3-03, 0:46 +0100, where I RO live), you wrote: PH Filters have me stumped! PH I have strings set up as follows: PH TheBat Text PH batSubject PH TBUDL Recipient PH tbudl Recipient PH batRecipient PH Source folder is inbox; destination folder, The Bat PH I expected that any messages having any of those strings in the PH associated locations would be sent to my The Bat folder. RO You're using five conditions. Unless you've setup all conditions as RO separate conditions (on the 'Alternate' tab) all of these five RO conditions have to met in order to trigger the filter. RO Since most of the messages on this list don't have 'bat' in their RO subject, the filter is bound to fail. So the rules are ANDed? How do I get them to be ORed? RO To process the messages correctly, it's best to filter list messages RO based upon a string that's inserted by the list. A example would be: RO List-Id: tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com RO as string, present in the kludges (headers) RO Filtering on the list address among the recipients would work too, but RO that would have two matches when somebody's sending you the same RO message both on and off-list. (Some do.) That's why I prefer to filter RO on a string addded by the list server. I see that I don not have the_bat.hlp. Can someone send it to me or tell me where I can snarf a copy from? Thanks. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters for Spam
Hello ~John, Friday, February 21, 2003, 6:22:26 PM, you wrote: ~ Paul Smithson wrote: P Why you would include a £ symbol ~ Why would you use that symbol in a subject line ? You make a very valid point :))) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters for Spam
Hello Paul Smithson, On or about Friday, February 21, 2003 at 18:00:16GMT + (which was 1:00 PM in the tropics where I live) Paul Smithson postulated, ruminated and made these points on the subject of Filters for Spam: PS Hello John, PS Friday, February 21, 2003, 5:23:51 PM, you wrote: ~ Here is a filter that gets rid of alot of spam for me: ~ [strings] £|¥|¤|§|«|»|À|Á|Å|µ|¿ PS Why you would include a £ symbol. PS As a Brit I feel pretty insulted that my genuine e-mails PS could be filtered out as spam just because I used the symbol PS of my countries currency (one of the World's major currencies). As a Brit you should have sense enough to simply EXCLUDE that symbol from the list if you wish, and not be 'insulted!' These combinations often show up in headers from Asian spam sites, which is why it is included in the filter. Any user living in a region where any of the symbols may be used, should of course exclude those symbols. This will reduce the effectiveness of the list of symbols though. I also include $ in my spam filter for those who insist on sending me $AVE $$ spams too! In your case that would be SAVE £, which would be equally, but regionally spam'ish. A user in Japan would likely receive SAVE ¥¥¥, etc. Example from a recent Asian spam: Subject: ¡m¤@Ó§Y£±N¾î±½½u¤W¹£CÀ¸ªº¤j«¬¹qª±½Ï¥Í¡A¡i¨M¾Ô¡j¹CÀ¸±N©ó12¤ë ¤£¤¶©«±À¥X¡A¦¹¹CÀ¸¦bÁú°£ê¤w¸g±Æ¦W¨ì¤F²Ä1¦W¡A¦b¤¤°ê¤j³°¤w®Ê¤É ±Æ¦W²Ä2¦W£¡C¥Ø«e¦b¥xÆW±N©ó2003¦~¤@¤ë¤¤¥¿¦¡¤£W½u¶}¥ -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Paying for movies is like paying for sex - if it's free it feels better. /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62i hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters for Spam
Hello Miguel A. Urech, On or about Friday, February 21, 2003 at 19:45:04GMT +0100 (which was 1:45 PM in the tropics where I live) Miguel A. Urech posted: [strings] £ MAU You would drop many messages from me if you and I exchanged business MAU e-mail :) If you send me mail with $, £ or any other currency symbol in the Subject line, you would certainly be sent to my TRASH folder, as you are trying to sell me something I did not request. If, in the text of the body, you tell me that for $20.00 I can have something which we discussed earlier, it would NOT! Words to the wise?? -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike A committee's real objective is not to reach a decision but to avoid it at all costs! /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62i hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters for Spam
Hi Paul, Friday, February 21, 2003, 6:00:16 PM, you wrote: PS Hello John, PS Friday, February 21, 2003, 5:23:51 PM, you wrote: ~ Here is a filter that gets rid of alot of spam for me: ~ [strings] ~ £|¥|¤|§|«|»|À|Á|Å|µ|¿ PS Why you would include a £ symbol. PS As a Brit I feel pretty insulted that my genuine PS e-mails could be filtered out as spam just because I PS used the symbol of my countries currency (one of the PS World's major currencies). If you are going to go to PS such extremes to filter out spam why not add this one As a Brit, I'm not surrpised, but I'd add $ to make the list more complete. Tyhe reason for using currency symbols that a lot of spammers will use subjects like Make Million$ and so forth. Actually, another good candidate for the list is also the ! which spammers love to use. However, if including that one I'd send the result to a spam folder, whereas the rest could quite happily go to trash. -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters for Spam
Hi Miguel, Friday, February 21, 2003, 6:45:04 PM, you wrote: MAU Hello ~John, Here is a filter that gets rid of alot of spam for me: [strings] £ MAU You would drop many messages from me if you and I exchanged business MAU e-mail :) Well, no, because if you have any sense you make messages from people you're happy to have mail from be filtered at the top of your filter list, with the spam filters following underneath. ;-) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters for Spam
Hi St, Saturday, February 22, 2003, 1:59:18 AM, you wrote: You would drop many messages from me if you and I exchanged business e-mail :) SMN Can't see why since this is what a whitelist would and should fix. Try replying to the right person. You just piggybacked my reply ;-) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: filters
Hello Miguel, Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 11:08:36 PM, you wrote: MAU Yes, try Selective Download filters. It worked,thanks -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters for both in and out boxes
In reply to Thomas's message 'Filters for both in and out boxes' on Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:53:38 +0700 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thomas, TF I therefore suggested repeatedly that these filter functions TF (incoming, outgoing, read, replied) should not be seperated into TF different filters, but we should be able to create only one filter TF with tickmarks apply to: incoming, outgoing, etc. mail, with TF multiple choices possible. Personally, I think you should be able to add filters to address book entries, but that is just my little wish... it might not work for other people. -- dan. e [EMAIL PROTECTED] w http://www.danhirning.com Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters.
Hello Chris, On Thursday, October 24, 2002, 3:52:32 PM, you wrote: CW I've got a few in there that I've now turned to manual. CW How do I trigger a bunch of filters together rather than running 1 at a CW time? I think this is what you are looking for: You can do this on a per folder basis by right clicking the folder select Re-filter messages, select the appropriate rule sets and check manual filter only. HTH -- Patrick G. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters.
Hello Chris, On Thursday, October 24, 2002, 5:25:18 PM, you wrote: PG You can do this on a per folder basis by right clicking the folder PG select Re-filter messages, select the appropriate rule sets and check PG manual filter only. CW Okay, what's the difference between adding addresses in the bottom of CW the 'Rule' tab in filters compared to adding addresses in CW 'Alternatives'? My understanding of this is adding under filter sets under the rules tab treats them as boolean 'AND' where the alternatives tab is treated as 'OR' CW I've added a host of names into the alternative and when i manually run CW the filter, nothing happens? CW Maybe I'll try adding all the names in the 'Rules' tab? Would this solve CW the problem? Upon re-reading: does adding all the names mean they are in a single entry? or one name per entry? CW Also, how do I add separate sounds to TB! related mails and a different CW sound for anything that stays in my Inbox? At the moment I get a sound CW for mails for TB! which is followed by the sound for new mail. I want it CW to work separately. Can't help here as I have sounds disabled - too many emails ;) I know this was recently discussed, perhaps there is something in the archives or one our fellow 'batters' could post a reference to the thread. -- Patrick G. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Thomas, On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 at 23:05:44[GMT +0700](which was 17:05 where I live) you wrote: TF If you are talking about addressbook groups, I suspect you may have TF your own address in that group too. So when you send a message to the TF whole group, you'll get it as an incoming mail, of course: you are one TF of the recipients. 'fraid not, definitely no address of mine anywhere in the address book. -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Thomas, On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 at11:31:35[GMT +0700](which was 05:31 where I live) you wrote: RW Even more baffled. So, if I send a mail to someone who is not in my RW address book or on a mailing list, I have to CC it to myself to get a RW copy? TF It has nothing to do with your addressbook. If you send a message to TF someone, anyone, you do *not* get a copy back (unless you CC to TF yourself). The only copy you have on your computer is the one in your TF Sent folder, which you can filter into another folder. (BTW Over here, TF if I have a folder for a certain friend, I will filter the sent TF messages into the same folder as the incoming messages. No need to go TF via the Inbox again.) TF Mailing lists are a special case. Because they send you any message TF that the list server receives. This includes your own message, and TF that is the only reason you get it back as an incoming message. Ah, all my questions being gradually answered apart from why messages originally went to the inbox without a CC and now don't but I will amend my rules so that outgoing messages go straight to the relevant folders. Thank you. -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 8:22:54 AM, you wrote: MO On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 08:25, Richard Wakeford wrote: Until yesterday all my sent mail came back to the Inbox without a CC or rule. MO Could it be your ISP automatically adding a BCC to you on every mail you MO send? Ask them! IIRC, Richard, that's what CIX/Ameol does. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Best regards, myobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Gerard, On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 at09:42:44[GMT +0200](which was 08:42 where I live) you wrote: RW Then some messages started not showing up in the Inbox or the other RW reader and I'm now told, obviously correctly, that I have to put a RW rule in the Outbox redirecting my mail to the Inbox so that it can RW be redircted to the relevant folder. Is that correct? G Sort of but it is not the most logical route. G After you press the sent button a copy of the msg will be placed in the G Sent folder UNLESS you have an Outgoing Mail filter that moves this G msg some were else. Remember you can also COPY the msg leaving a copy in G the sent folder and one in the new location. Ahh! G I would recommend using the Outgoing Mail filter to place the msg G directly into the appropriate folder. that's the way I've already planned to do it. G / begin smart tip alert G When I am working with filters I usually also set a colour in the same G filter together with the action I am trying to create. This makes it G easy to check wether a certain filter was triggered and used ;-) G / end smart tip alert Another good tip, thanks. -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Thomas, On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 at11:43:36[GMT +0700](which was 05:43 where I live) you wrote: TF I filter mailing lists only at incoming time. Outgoing filters are TF important for normal mail, where your sent message doesn't come back TF to you. Oh, I thought *all* mail comes back to me, at least mine does (I think). Do you mean by normal mail that is not in the address book? -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Thomas, On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 at22:40:47[GMT +0700](which was 16:40 where I live) you wrote: TF No, I mean a mail that I sent just to a recipient, not to a list. For TF example if I send a message directly to your address. It will not come TF back to me, unless I include my own address as another recipient. Even more baffled. So, if I send a mail to someone who is not in my address book or on a mailing list, I have to CC it to myself to get a copy? Sorry to be so thick. -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Marck, On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 at02:37:59[GMT +0100](which was 02:37 where I live) you wrote: MW Are you saying you want *another* copy sent to you? RW Well some of my mail (most if it actually) comes to the inbox RW anyway so why doesn't it all so that it can all automatically RW get threaded? MDP If that's what you really want, the messages you have sent moved to MDP your inbox for threading (although I wouldn't do that myself - I MDP have 200+ folders neatly laid out and in each I thread the received MDP messages) all you have to do is make a single Outgoing mail filter MDP that move any message with the sender as (you) to the Inbox. When I started using TB all of my mail, whether sent (with no CC to me or anything like that), or received, duly arrived in the inbox where I put all my rules. At the moment I only have 15 mailboxes. The messages I sent also arrived at my other mail reader (still no CC from me). Then some messages started not showing up in the Inbox or the other reader and I'm now told, obviously correctly, that I have to put a rule in the Outbox redirecting my mail to the Inbox so that it can be redircted to the relevant folder. Is that correct? I think I'm slowly getting there :-) -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Mark, On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 at12:12:36[GMT -0700](which was 20:12 where I live) you wrote: MW I think one of the main things that people trip over is that the MW strings in the Filtering strings box are treated as AND clauses MW rather than OR clauses. In other words, if you have more than one line MW in the Filtering strings box, then *both* of those cases have to be MW true in order for the filter to trigger. If you want OR clauses MW (trigger the filter if A is the recipient OR if B is the sender OR if MW the phrase you have won a prize is present anywhere, then you need MW to enter all except the first one using the Alternatives tab. Now that is very helpful and has solved a great many of my problems at one stroke. -- Many thanks, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Gerard, On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 at19:14:54[GMT +0200](which was 18:14 where I live) you wrote: G - You need to determine a UNIQUE filtering characteristic that does not G change over time. G The simplest being the email address a person. I thought I had but I've been told one answer, the first filter works on and AND basis and not OR. G For a mailing list this could be part of the mailing address like we do G for this mail list. It is recommended you filter for G [EMAIL PROTECTED] presence in the kludges. Hm, I don't think Kludges (at least I know what they are now) will be any use as my mailing list is just to an address book group. As my name is not in the address book I presume I cannot have Sender and Recipient in the advanced settings but must set up two rules, one with Sender and the other with Recipient? G Hope this helps ;-) Getting there thanks :-) -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Thomas, On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 at01:35:27[GMT +0700](which was 19:35 where I live) you wrote: TF Check whether this is always true. Is sender the group? I believe in TF this group, it isn't. Now you've got me thinking. As my name is not in the group or the address book I assumed sender was when members of the group mailed me and recipient was when a message went from me to them? Am I wrong. Again the rule works most of the time, just three addresses in the group won't transfer across and no other rules are active on those addresses. TF Your replies to the list will come in through the list anyway, and TF will be caught by the filter on the list. Ok so, unless there are are reasons for complicated rules, I can keep all my rules directed at the inbox? RW I have another rule for one person with the sender's address as RW recipient and sender and, again, the latest mail from this person RW stays obstinately in the inbox, everything beforehand is filtered RW correctly. TF If everything worked fine and suddenly doesn't, I suspect there is an TF typing mistake involved. No, it was the AND rule in the first filter string. I've now made an alternative and it's OK. TF Once you have understood the logic behind the filters, you will decide TF this by yourself. One more tip: The filters are applied from top to TF bottom. So if two filters apply for a message, the higher one is TF applied first. If that is a MOVE filter, and the other one colours the TF message, it won't be coloured. Thanks for those tips, I'll bear them in mind. -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Leif, On Mon, 07 Oct 2002 at20:00:27[GMT -0600](which was 03:00 where I live) you wrote: LG Just wanted to check. Have you read: LG http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/filtering.shtml Yes I have but it's all far too complicated and for me and leaves me half way down page one! -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters again
Monday, July 22, 2002, 5:24:16 PM, you wrote: [snip] Hi Allie - ACM Sounds like you need to invest in one of those ACM specialist spam filtering tools that have been ACM mentioned on this list now and then, like Spam Weasel ACM or SpamCop. I may resort to that, but looking at some of the filters to automate it has given me vertigo, so I'm putting it off till I have a better understanding of the filtering thing. ACM You could also try the filter be exclusion technique. ACM This one is based on the fact that if you filter mail ACM from everyone you expect mail from then everything ACM else should be spam. I personally do the following in ACM the order mentioned: Yes .. this is where I'm headed. I'm now running into ordering issues, so have kept your list. tnx. ACM PS// To be truthful, since I've obtained a primary MX ACM Server for my domain mail, my spam message influx has ACM been reduced from 20 spam messages a day to 1-2 per ACM week. Not an option here for some time to come, unfortunately. Attractive, though :-) I appreciate all the input - Lynn -- 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
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Monday, July 22, 2002, 3:28:25 PM, you wrote: so do I list this as 'sender', or as 'kludges', or what? DAC I'm using sender for those. Hmmm .. then I think my current problems must be mostly the order. Thanks, Lynn -- 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters again
Tuesday, July 23, 2002, 10:13:11 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Lynn, RO On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:01:08 -0700GMT (23-7-02, 18:01 +0200GMT, where RO I live), you wrote: LT Because, as I mentioned in a previous mail, either I have LT to put them in my 'personal' AB, where I don't want them, LT even as a group, or make a new AB which would have to be LT made the default (as nearly as I can tell) to be used in LT the filters. RO When you define a new address book and create a group in there, you RO could test for the addresses being present in that group. RO I've used the same strategy in the past to add people to specific RO AB's. Yes, it's easy to add them, but when I went to build a filter, my choice was the default AB + it's groups. If this doesn't work out I'll have another look, but I don't want a thousand spam addresses in my main AB, nor do I really want to change the default. Lynn -- 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
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Hi all - I just want to thank everybody who helped out with this filtering. I think it's working fairly well now, though it could use some tweaking. I'm hoping to do that without hollering help, though :-) Lynn -- 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
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Monday, July 22, 2002, 8:49:10 AM, you wrote: [snip] TM I would suggest a little different approach. Put all your spam TM addresses in a 'spamers' AB group, then have your filter process TM against that AB group. That way you don't need to modify your filter TM each time you want to add a new spamer. All you would need to do is TM highlight the msg and Ctrl-W to add the new spamer to the AB Group and TM away you go... I'd rather not do this, if it can be avoided, but anyway ... see below ... TM btw, you would do this on the 'Advanced' tab most of the way to the TM bottom. Look for 'Address(es) must be listed in the address book:' TM section. I must be running an older version of TB than you are; the advanced tab in my sorting office/filters has no such box :-( I could upgrade, but have they fixed the memory leak does anybody know? Never mind, I probably wouldn't use the rtf viewer anyway ... Lynn Lynn 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
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Monday, July 22, 2002, 8:11:39 AM, you wrote: JA Yes... I think you're making a long AND query... so ALL the JA addresses JA would have to be listed. Move all but the first one to the JA alternatives page, and try running the filter again. I did that - moved all but the first address to the alternatives tab, by hitting 'add set' for each ... if I do that, it'll make the rule 'or'? Or should I have hit alt-ins ... ? At any rate, I fixed one of the smaller filters this way, and after I closed it a couple of them came in, not filtered ... Another thing - how can I add just the isp name to the filter? I get several mails a day from same domain, all with different prefixes and subjects .. would be nice to be able to add @spammail.com to the list somehow. I've tried that a couple of ways, but thanks again .. Lynn 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
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Monday, July 22, 2002, 1:03:51 PM, you wrote: [snip] LG It has, I'm sure about that. This setting has been there for quite a LG while now (as far back as my TB experience goes, which must be 1.47 LG Halloween Edition, IIRC). There is also a scroll bar on this tab which LG allows one to scroll down to more options. Yes, I found it .. but it only selects the default address book, so either you have to put all your spam addresses into your personal book (not acceptable), or have a separate spam AB as default .. also not workable. Unless I missed something? I really don't want to put a few hundred (thousand?) spam addys in there, even sorted to a separate group .. LG But most people tend to miss that little detail. ;-) That's the little detail I missed .. duh! I upgraded anyway .. I dl'ed it when the notice came in, just didn't get around to the install. Now it's done! Lynn 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
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Monday, July 22, 2002, 1:04:51 PM, you wrote: MDP Completely. In build 'q' of 1.60. 1.61 was 100% stable and 1.62 MDP is MDP now in beta. Keep up!! ;-) MDP - -- MDP Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator Honey, if I could reduce this damn spam to a sensible level, I might be able to keep TB up to date! lol! Lynn 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters again
Monday, July 22, 2002, 1:14:55 PM, you wrote: [snip] JA You use Add Set. I think alt-ins adds an AND to the OR statement. JA So it'd be like this: JA A or B AND C OK, I thought that might be the way it worked. JA Hrm... no idea. I'll go over them again .. who knows what I might have missed? Another thing - how can I add just the isp name to the filter? I get several mails a day from same domain, all with different prefixes and subjects .. would be nice to be able to add @spammail.com to the list somehow. I've tried that a couple of ways, but JA Have you tried adding just @spammail.com? I think you can, you may JA have to enable regexp though. I did, but now you mention it, I might not have checked the regexp box .. OK, will comb them for that, too. Tnx! Lynn 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters again
Monday, July 22, 2002, 1:36:41 PM, you wrote: [snip] DAC First, is there some advantage to having one filter with all the DAC alternative spam items, instead of a number of filters. I don't know .. but my filter list is so long that if I want to find one for some reason, it's an awful pain, and it's also a pain to sort. I thought if I grouped them, or some of them at least, it would be more manageable. Maybe not .. it's a 'let's try this' thing .. shrug Some of the stuff I'm filtering is legit mail that I just want to route to a particular folder .. newsletter stuff that they garble by giving each one a new name. Arrgghh! DAC Second, at least when you have one item per filter, you can have DAC sender just be spammail.com, and then you will catch @spammail.com, DAC @one.spammail.com, @spamsender.spammail.com, etc. If you just do DAC spammail and leave off the dot com, you will also get DAC @smapmail.hotmail.com Aha ... so do I list this as 'sender', or as 'kludges', or what? I wasn't sure if the '@' was necessary or not ... Thanks! Lynn 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters
El miércoles 26 de junio de 2002, 12.49, Roelof Otten decía: RO Selective download filters are only being used with the mail RO dispatcher. I think you're wrong here. I remember using selective download filters some time ago, and they worked with the 'normal' 'Get new mail', independently from the mail dispatcher. -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
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Hello Adam, Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 2:38:43 PM, you wrote: RO Outgoing filters are triggered when the condition is met on an RO outgoing message. A Are Outgoing filters very commonly used? Do people often have a A number of folders and not send to sent-mail? I use outgoing filter to save messages to certain people in certain folders. really helps keep things organized. RO Replied filters are triggered when the condition is met on a message RO that you've just written a reply to. The source directory matters very RO much here. A So does this occur when getting mail? A Is Bat the only program with these options? -- best regards, Laura Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters for mailinglist
Hello Leif, Monday, April 8, 2002, 8:05:15 AM, you wrote: Thank you for your reaction, and also Jan, thanks to you I finally got it right! M In the manual it says to adjust the path in de templates and the M filters, but I don't seem to be able to find where to do so. M That might be the reason the filters don't show up in the sorting M office. LG Yeah, you've got a little work ahead of you to get the mailing list LG up. Here's all the places you'll need to change the paths. I started all over again, and where I went wrong before was at the installation of the new account AFTER extracting the zip and adjusting the path for the new account. I left it at default before. LG - Account properties/templates/New Message and Reply LG - Sorting office/Incoming mail snip Now I saw all the files and filters where I had to change the path, it ws very handy to have your list to check. LG It's free and at the moment almost non-existant traffic. I guess I LG wrote the FAQ too well, because not many people seem to be having LG problems with it. I'll try first to set up the list, and see if I run into problems again, but you may be right about the FAQ, everything seems to be the way you describe it, so it should be 'a piece of cake'. Thanks so far! -- Best regards, Marionmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Filters using Alternative
Thanks Marcus, I went back to recreate so that I could be sure I had it correct before I posted it here. When I did I found that it works properly if there is a string in the Rules side. Remove that string and just run with the alternative and it will trap every thing that has not been already trapped for some other filter.I was sure that I had tried this last night but perhaps I didn't. Actually, I remember trying it and it didn't work so I suspect I had typed something wrong on that one. In any case, it is working now if there is a string on the rule side also. March 08, 2002, 11:43:22, you wrote: On Friday, March 8, 2002, 14:46, you wrote: I have been trying to set up a SPAM filter using the Alternative (OR |) function in the filter builder. The problem is that everything is being trapped by this filter. Could you post the filter here? Enter the Sorting Office, mark the filter and hit ctrl-c. You could then paste it in any text editor with ctrl-v. -- Genemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Filters -- alphabetizing folders
Thank you, Peter. That worked, I hadn't cleared the password in the one account. Elaine Have you, when deleting access password, cleared _both_ fields? -- Regards Peter Palmreuther -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Filters -- alphabetizing folders
Thank you very much, copying the files worked perfectly. Now, how do I get rid of the password dialogue box? No one but me uses computer and I don't need to authorize opening up an account (managed somehow (it wouldn't send jpg without it) to set that in when I sent a jpg from the desktop and created a TB transmittal email the other evening). Elaine There is a second way. Create a new account Close TB Copy the files account.cfg, account.srx and account.flx from the directory with your old account to the directory with your new account. Now you have two identical accounts, since you copied the account setup (including the account templates) with the .cfg, the filters with the .srx and the folder setup with the .flx. Now start TB You'll see that the new account has the same folders (though empty) and filters as the old account. Correct the account properties for the new account so they're correct and you're done. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Filters -- alphabetizing folders
Thank you. I am up and running and registered and finally have given TB default for all mail. OE has been sent to rest. Elaine Hello ETM, 17. januar 2002, 19:30:56, you wrote: E How do I alphabetize the folders created to accommodate the filters? Click on the [Name] column header. You'll get a message saying This will change the order of folders. Do you want to process?. Click OK. ^^^ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Filters
On 9 December 2001 at 8:13 pm Lars wrote: Hi Alastair, On 9 Dec 2001 at 19:11:52 [GMT +], you wrote: I'm new to TB! and am struggling to find a way to create a filter which will leave any mail with attachments on the server (without deleting it from the server). AS (ii) in Account | Sorting Office/Filters, set up a new filter with AS the following options changed from the default: AS [filter details snipped] You should also activate Continue processing with other filters, otherwise your filtering would stop after this filter (which is at the top of the list :-( ). All your other filters would be rather useless with this one. ;-) I always forget that one :) Would it not be safer to default 'Continue processing ...' to on? After all, with 90 per cent* of filters doing so won't make any difference as the message will have been moved to a folder :) Alastair * I think this is a fair guess as to what most filters do. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Filters don't work
Hello, Yes, it's the right way. The problem is that the default string may contain (double quote, 22H) characters. It does not help in my case. I reduced the default string from the recipient (in a mailing list message) to optacon (the part of the e-mail address before the @) and put the place to look for to header. It still does not move the messages into the mailing list's folder. Regards Hanspeter -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filters don't work
Hello Peter, Well, I create filters i.e. by pressing strg-shift-f in the message editor, modify the folder entry to where I want to place the message and press ok. I guess I do everything according to the help text. Is there a way to catch error messages about non-working filters? TIA Hanspeter -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filters for 2 accounts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, You wrote on 3/28/2001, 6:54 PM: Marck I have a theory that I'm longing to check out but I don't have Marck a set up in which I can do so. It goes like this: Marck Enable local delivery. Marck In the secondary account, have a single incoming mail filter Marck which has an action that does no more than redirect the message Marck to account1. Marck At the point of delivery to the account1 inbox, account1 should, in Marck theory, re-filter. Anyone got a set up that this can be tested with? I tried it some month ago... I had two problems with it (otherwise it worked fine): 1) The redirection changed the RFC-822 header of the mail - and did so in such a way that all redirected mail got caught by the filter I use to colour the messages written by me. 2) When experimenting, it was very easy to create a setup where mail was autogenerating from Acc2 and redirected to Acc1 in an alarming rate... It was most certainly a user error in my part, but I kind of shied away doing the redirection :) - -- Cheers, SyP There are things that are so serious that you can only joke about them (Heisenberg) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt build 4 iQA/AwUBOsIN19kgnrcJiuwTEQL0iQCaA0GKVT1G+Ha/s9nVGapyJZ+USqQAoJ/6 X/KLfvVpjrRvZqT+vYEiqJ7E =ORrM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filters for 2 accounts
Hi, Bat folks, on Wednesday, March 28, 2001 at 17:54:31GMT +0100 - which was 18:54 in Cologne, Germany, where I live - Marck D. Pearlstone wrote the following lines regarding "Filters for 2 accounts": Marck Enable local delivery. How can I do this, or how can I disable local delivery? I can't find it in the options! Take care, Andreas -- My ICQ#: 23060752 My homepage: www.andreas-schwartmann.de Message created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1. "A mountain isn't far too fall, when you've fallen from the moon." - Steve Hogarth -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filters for 2 accounts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ming-Li, You wrote on 3/28/2001, 7:26 PM: 2) When experimenting, it was very easy to create a setup where mail was autogenerating from Acc2 and redirected to Acc1 in an alarming rate... It was most certainly a user error in my part, but I kind of shied away doing the redirection :) Ming-Li I don't know what you mean here. Okay I don't remember exactly what I was doing... I think when both "Create a copy of the message in another folder" and "Redirect the message" was checked (maybe "Process with other filters" also, I managed to do an internal mail loop. - -- Cheers, SyP A program is a lot like a nose: Sometimes it runs, and sometimes it blows. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt build 4 iQA/AwUBOsIVR9kgnrcJiuwTEQJUQQCg1qPdxrXfW5ThLKIjXwSBQuiB12cAoKCW g3HWXOEmSQbd/m7syOkU2PQ7 =pbgm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filters..figured out! but a different question on templates.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, You wrote on 3/18/2001, 1:04 PM: Allie Create a quick template which contains only the macro %Clear. Allie Give it a short handle name like 'cl'. Whenever you create a Allie new message and wish not to use the template, just type 'cl' Allie and then ctrlbackspace. Actually it's ctrlspace. :) - -- Cheers, SyP How an engineer writes a program: start by debugging an empty file. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt build 4 iQA/AwUBOrSZCNkgnrcJiuwTEQLiHACfUTMyvD+sIxgx2g7TQYirX0EytN8AnjOy U+saqCigb90S7VEkdj/FONOy =IKcx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: filters
Hey Marck, Wednesday, January 17, 2001, 2:12:03 PM, you wrote: F TO: "VS Big List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP could enable RegEx here and test for: MDP reply to: .VS Big List. \vsbiglist\@lists\.metrocenter\.com\ I love it! You get to use RegEx *and* keep all of the components of the address! vbg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.49 Windows NT 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 1) Always remember you're unique... Just like everyone else. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filters
Hello Nick, Sunday, November 19, 2000, 9:35:33 PM, you wrote: Nick Andriash Doug, do you think you can shorten your quote prefix? It makes it very Nick Andriash difficult to read your messages when you use almost 25% of your available Nick Andriash sentence length, just for the quote prefix. Yes. Don't know why that happens, must get to grip with what The Bat is doing with quotes, which I'm finding strange. Eg, why is it putting this line with your name in it below? Nick Andriash [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filters
Hello JM14, Thanks Jerry. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filters through accounts
Hi! Allie Martin wrote at 3/24/2000, 1:17 : AM On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:47:19 +0100, SyP wrote: Is there any way for filters to work throughout accounts? AM Not the way that you're indicating. Then I guess multiple POP3 mailboxes for one account would do for me... ;) Bye: SyP -- First rule of programming: Never write a program smarter than you are... -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filters for outgoing messages?
Hi Ali Martin, On Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 1999 at 23:59:55 you wrote: AM On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:08:25 +0100, Roel wrote: just put 'explorer.exe' or 'explorer' in the field, that'll do it :-) AM I included my windows directory as well and it also worked. shrug It does work. I fell for some nasty translation error... There's a check box beneath that edit field saying "Run hidden". I usually use The Bat! with german language and in german it says "Erzeuge getrennten Prozess", which means "Create separate process". Of course I checked that one... seemed to be a good idea. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Filters for outgoing messages?
Hi Roel, On Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 1999 at 23:08:25 you wrote: OS Then I put "windowsdir\explorer.exe" in the edit R just put 'explorer.exe' or 'explorer' in the field, that'll do it :-) R if you want to use windows-variables, you should use them like this: R %windowsdir% Nice to know that works ;) Anyway, of course I didn't put "windowsdir" in there, but actually "d:\winnt". I just didn't want to confuse anybody ;) Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
