Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: LibreOffice silent uninstall

2011-02-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

Ahah, people have been asking about this.  How do you get each computer to 
actually run the command or do you leave that up to the users?

Do you use Notepad to create a txt file with download instruction and then this 
line at the end and Save As ... a batch file .bat?  or do you compile it 
into an .exe?

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Rokas roka...@bamba.lt
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 1 February, 2011 6:20:27
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: LibreOffice silent uninstall

I solved the problem.

If you want silent install program(install from command line unattended) you
need write command:

*msiexec /qn /i \\ntinstall\wpkg\soft\LibreOffice3.3\libreoffice33.msi*

to uninstall:

*msiexec /q /x \\ntinstall\wpkg\soft\LibreOffice3.3\libreoffice33.msi*


It very helps when you need install program into more than 10computers.

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Luuk luu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 31-01-11 20:05, Rokas Slavinskas wrote:
  I need command line command which can uninstall LibreOffice from pc? Any
  suggestions? I am using windows.
 

 from the directory containting the installation files:
 msiexec /uninstall libreoffice33.msi /qr

 (or do msiexec /? for other options)
 msiexec /uninstall libreoffice33.msi /quiet does not seem to work on
 my Windows7



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base form editing/creation impossible, missing dialog boxes and Menu bars

2011-02-01 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 01/02/11 07:21, Keith Bates a écrit :
 

Hi Keith,


 Well LO just stuffed up a form that I use daily. All the boxes, labels
 etc are just dumped on top of each other. All the program settings have
 reverted to the defaults from the first time use-- things like macro
 security, background to application and other things selected under
 tools- Options
 
 
 There is no apparent reason for this.

Did you play with the zoom settings in any other document, in
particular, a Writer document ? This is a known (old and recurring) bug
from OpenOffice.org and I wouldn't be surprised if it also affected
LibO. It gets fixed, then it gets broken again, along the various
version releases, and yes, it is really frustrating when you rely on
forms for data entry. Many a time I had to try and explain to users what
was happening.

Additionally, I know of a bug that causes this to happen in
OpenOffice.org when the form is stored on a network resource, such as a
NFS or SMB file store. I haven't yet experimented to see whether this
also happens in LibO, but I wouldn't be overly surprised.


Alex




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base form editing/creation impossible, missing dialog boxes and Menu bars

2011-02-01 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 29/01/11 06:27, Mobidoy a écrit :

Hi,

 
 In BASE
 
 I am trying to edit a form I have but, there is no dialog box opening when
 right clickig - selecting control. Without it, not much can be done. Also,
 I could not get the control bar so, cannot add anything. 
 
 Could someone verify they are also affected by this ? 

As I said in my previous post, I can get the properties of the control
to display by right clicking on it. I can also see the Design Mode
toolbar, and can activate / deactivate it. This is with LibO final, Mac
OSX 10.6.6


Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: LibreOffice silent uninstall

2011-02-01 Thread Rokas Slavinskas
Hi,

in our office we use wpkg(wpkg.org);

*WPKG* is an automated software deployment, upgrade and removal program for
Windows.
It can run as a service to install software in the background (silent
install), without user interaction.

Other solution, you can write bat file with instructions. For example:

install.bat, you write in it:

msiexec /qn /i \\SERVER_NAME\soft\LibreOffice3.3\libreoffice33.msi

and when user open file, libre office will be installed silently, without
user interaction.

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)

 Ahah, people have been asking about this.  How do you get each computer to
 actually run the command or do you leave that up to the users?

 Do you use Notepad to create a txt file with download instruction and then
 this
 line at the end and Save As ... a batch file .bat?  or do you compile
 it
 into an .exe?

 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
 From: Rokas roka...@bamba.lt
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tue, 1 February, 2011 6:20:27
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: LibreOffice silent uninstall

 I solved the problem.

 If you want silent install program(install from command line unattended)
 you
 need write command:

 *msiexec /qn /i \\ntinstall\wpkg\soft\LibreOffice3.3\libreoffice33.msi*

 to uninstall:

 *msiexec /q /x \\ntinstall\wpkg\soft\LibreOffice3.3\libreoffice33.msi*


 It very helps when you need install program into more than 10computers.

 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Luuk luu...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 31-01-11 20:05, Rokas Slavinskas wrote:
   I need command line command which can uninstall LibreOffice from pc?
 Any
   suggestions? I am using windows.
  
 
  from the directory containting the installation files:
  msiexec /uninstall libreoffice33.msi /qr
 
  (or do msiexec /? for other options)
  msiexec /uninstall libreoffice33.msi /quiet does not seem to work on
  my Windows7
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base form editing/creation impossible, missing dialog boxes and Menu bars

2011-02-01 Thread Keith Bates

On 01/02/11 19:28, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

Le 01/02/11 07:21, Keith Bates a écrit :
Hi Keith,



Well LO just stuffed up a form that I use daily. All the boxes, labels
etc are just dumped on top of each other. All the program settings have
reverted to the defaults from the first time use-- things like macro
security, background to application and other things selected under
tools- Options


There is no apparent reason for this.

Did you play with the zoom settings in any other document, in
particular, a Writer document ? This is a known (old and recurring) bug
from OpenOffice.org and I wouldn't be surprised if it also affected
LibO. It gets fixed, then it gets broken again, along the various
version releases, and yes, it is really frustrating when you rely on
forms for data entry. Many a time I had to try and explain to users what
was happening.

Additionally, I know of a bug that causes this to happen in
OpenOffice.org when the form is stored on a network resource, such as a
NFS or SMB file store. I haven't yet experimented to see whether this
also happens in LibO, but I wouldn't be overly surprised.


Alex




No, Alex as far as I know I haven't zoomed in on anything. But I've 
never had this happen in OO.


I think it's related to the other issues with Forms in Base that seem to 
have erupted in LO. I'm surprised that it also lost all of my previous 
settings.


So for now I've uninstalled LO and reinstalled OO which actually 
remembered all my settings and opened the form correctly.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: LibreOffice silent uninstall

2011-02-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

So you can avoid needing to go to every machine using this?  It just installs 
for each user the 1st time they open a .doc or an .odt?  The server places 
the install.bat or whatever onto each machine?  


Wpkg sounds excellent = a package manager for Windows!  Does it automatically 
upgrade all programs with the latest patches and updates?  Does it also upgrade 
programs?  I guess that would be limited to non-proprietary programs or perhaps 
other free ones.

Many thanks for your answers!  Hopefully the people that were asking about this 
might have noticed the thread.  I am trying to find the email addresses or 
posts 
from the people that were asking.
Regards from
Tom :)






From: Rokas Slavinskas rokas.slavins...@mif.stud.vu.lt
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 1 February, 2011 8:27:17
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: LibreOffice silent uninstall

Hi,

in our office we use wpkg(wpkg.org);

*WPKG* is an automated software deployment, upgrade and removal program for
Windows.
It can run as a service to install software in the background (silent
install), without user interaction.

Other solution, you can write bat file with instructions. For example:

install.bat, you write in it:

msiexec /qn /i \\SERVER_NAME\soft\LibreOffice3.3\libreoffice33.msi

and when user open file, libre office will be installed silently, without
user interaction.

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)

 Ahah, people have been asking about this.  How do you get each computer to
 actually run the command or do you leave that up to the users?

 Do you use Notepad to create a txt file with download instruction and then
 this
 line at the end and Save As ... a batch file .bat?  or do you compile
 it
 into an .exe?

 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
 From: Rokas roka...@bamba.lt
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tue, 1 February, 2011 6:20:27
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: LibreOffice silent uninstall

 I solved the problem.

 If you want silent install program(install from command line unattended)
 you
 need write command:

 *msiexec /qn /i \\ntinstall\wpkg\soft\LibreOffice3.3\libreoffice33.msi*

 to uninstall:

 *msiexec /q /x \\ntinstall\wpkg\soft\LibreOffice3.3\libreoffice33.msi*


 It very helps when you need install program into more than 10computers.

 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Luuk luu...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 31-01-11 20:05, Rokas Slavinskas wrote:
   I need command line command which can uninstall LibreOffice from pc?
 Any
   suggestions? I am using windows.
  
 
  from the directory containting the installation files:
  msiexec /uninstall libreoffice33.msi /qr
 
  (or do msiexec /? for other options)
  msiexec /uninstall libreoffice33.msi /quiet does not seem to work on
  my Windows7
 
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] How to change the default format for date fields?

2011-02-01 Thread Stefan Giese



Hi there!
I just intalled LibreOffice 3.3 and I am very happy that now 
Office-Macros are supported :-)


I opened an XLS-document with date fields. Unfortunately the default 
format string for date is TT.MM. (at least as far as the german 
version is concerned). So the date fields of my document appear as 
TT.02.JJ - and not 01.02.11. When I change the format to MM.DD. 
everything is alright. So my question is: How can I change the default 
date format from TT.MM. to DD.MM.???


Thanks for your help and kind regards!!!

Stefan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to change the default format for date fields?

2011-02-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

I think this has to go to the developers as a bug report?
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Stefan Giese stgi...@gmx.de
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 1 February, 2011 10:09:42
Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to change the default format for date fields?



Hi there!
I just intalled LibreOffice 3.3 and I am very happy that now Office-Macros are 
supported :-)

I opened an XLS-document with date fields. Unfortunately the default format 
string for date is TT.MM. (at least as far as the german version is 
concerned). So the date fields of my document appear as TT.02.JJ - and not 
01.02.11. When I change the format to MM.DD. everything is alright. So my 
question is: How can I change the default date format from TT.MM. to 
DD.MM.???

Thanks for your help and kind regards!!!

Stefan


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base form editing/creation impossible, missing dialog boxes and Menu bars

2011-02-01 Thread Mobidoy

I will give it another try but, before I do so, I will do a clean 
install just in case old LibO Settings could act on it.

Just need to finish this form first for some clients then I will have 
plenty of time to play wit it :)

Chris

On 11-02-01 03:35 AM, Alexander Thurgood [via Document Foundation Mail 
Archive] wrote:
 Le 29/01/11 06:27, Mobidoy a écrit :

 Hi,

 
  In BASE
 
  I am trying to edit a form I have but, there is no dialog box 
 opening when
  right clickig - selecting control. Without it, not much can be 
 done. Also,
  I could not get the control bar so, cannot add anything.
 
  Could someone verify they are also affected by this ?

 As I said in my previous post, I can get the properties of the control
 to display by right clicking on it. I can also see the Design Mode
 toolbar, and can activate / deactivate it. This is with LibO final, Mac
 OSX 10.6.6


 Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] welcome window bug

2011-02-01 Thread Scott Jones
My startup screen is fine.  Maybe it's your is install causing it?

On Feb 1, 2011, at 2:38 AM, kranthi.t2000 kranthi.t2...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi guys,
 Libreoffice welcome screen has a bug as you can see
 is there anything that we can do?
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base form editing/creation impossible, missing dialog boxes and Menu bars

2011-02-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

In linux there is a folder that contains all the config settings.  Renaming 
that 
folder forces LibreOffice to create a new one that has none of your 
personalised 
settings in it.

If Mac has something similar then that is a good approach.  If it doesn't work 
then just copy the old folder back on-top of the new one to get all your old 
settings back.

In linux the path would be

/home/user/.libreoffice

I think there is something similar in Windows but i am not certain about Mac.  
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)





From: Mobidoy christian.paren...@gmail.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 1 February, 2011 11:13:59
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base form editing/creation impossible, missing 
dialog boxes and Menu bars


I will give it another try but, before I do so, I will do a clean 
install just in case old LibO Settings could act on it.

Just need to finish this form first for some clients then I will have 
plenty of time to play wit it :)

Chris

On 11-02-01 03:35 AM, Alexander Thurgood [via Document Foundation Mail 
Archive] wrote:
 Le 29/01/11 06:27, Mobidoy a écrit :

 Hi,

 
  In BASE
 
  I am trying to edit a form I have but, there is no dialog box 
 opening when
  right clickig - selecting control. Without it, not much can be 
 done. Also,
  I could not get the control bar so, cannot add anything.
 
  Could someone verify they are also affected by this ?

 As I said in my previous post, I can get the properties of the control
 to display by right clicking on it. I can also see the Design Mode
 toolbar, and can activate / deactivate it. This is with LibO final, Mac
 OSX 10.6.6


 Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOfficeCac...

2011-02-01 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 01.02.2011 08:47, Zed wrote:

Using libreoffice vLibreOffice 3.3.0 OOO330m19 (Build:5) tag
libreoffice-3.3.0.3, on LinuxMint Debian Edition.

Created two columns of figures

(a) Col B consists of 34 rows of figures. Rows B9,
B16, B20, B29, B34 are total categories, shown as figures not formula.

(b) Col C has figures in rows C8, C13, C14, C15, C19, C23.

(c) adding the figures in the rows given in (a) above, i.e. =B9+
B16+B20+B29+B34  returns the error #VALUE!.  I tried enclosing in brackets
with the same result.

(d) In Col C.  Highlighting rows C5:C34) and then hitting SUM only returns
the value of C23. Adding C8+C13+C14+C15+C19+C23 returns the error message
#VALUE.

Has anyone else come across this, please?  It appears to be a bug.

Incidentally, I do not have the same problem if I use OpenOffice Calc.  All
works as expected.

Zed


I bet your are trying to sum up text values. Hit Ctrl+F8 which 
highlights numbers in blue font.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows bug? Opening OTT does not create new document.

2011-02-01 Thread Luuk
On 01-02-11 13:23, Neil wrote:
 No idea whether this is the right place to report this, but I have had a
 search to see if this bug has previously been reported and not found
 anything.

 Double-clicking on a OpenDocument Text Template (OTT) in windows opens the
 template file rather than creating a new document based on the template.
 I am running LibreOffice 3.3.0 OOO330m19 (Build:6) on Windows 7. The
 template in question is one I created and is nothing fancy, just has some
 sub-headings in it.

 I dual-boot with Ubuntu 10.04. If I double-click on the same file under
 Ubuntu, LO creates a new document based on the template as expected.

 Neil

What does happen on your computer when you do this?:

C:\assoc .ott
.ott=opendocument.WriterTemplate.1

C:\ftype opendocument.WriterTemplate.1
opendocument.WriterTemplate.1=C:\Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice
3\program\swriter.exe -o %1

C:\



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base form editing/creation impossible, missing dialog boxes and Menu bars

2011-02-01 Thread Barbara Duprey
On my Win7 system, all the toolbars for Writer forms behave properly (I didn't try all the controls, 
though). The problem I found was that I couldn't set up list box options (bug 33537). I do find it 
fairly difficult to tell if Design Mode is on or off, though, the contrast is not very high.


On 2/1/2011 5:13 AM, Mobidoy wrote:

I will give it another try but, before I do so, I will do a clean
install just in case old LibO Settings could act on it.

Just need to finish this form first for some clients then I will have
plenty of time to play wit it :)

Chris

On 11-02-01 03:35 AM, Alexander Thurgood [via Document Foundation Mail
Archive] wrote:

Le 29/01/11 06:27, Mobidoy a écrit :

Hi,


In BASE

I am trying to edit a form I have but, there is no dialog box

opening when

right clickig -  selecting control. Without it, not much can be

done. Also,

I could not get the control bar so, cannot add anything.

Could someone verify they are also affected by this ?

As I said in my previous post, I can get the properties of the control
to display by right clicking on it. I can also see the Design Mode
toolbar, and can activate / deactivate it. This is with LibO final, Mac
OSX 10.6.6


Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Re: welcome window bug

2011-02-01 Thread kranthi.t2000

I disabled desktop effects. 
But the same problem persists.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base form editing/creation impossible, missing dialog boxes and Menu bars

2011-02-01 Thread Francois M
Le 01/02/2011 15:38, Barbara Duprey a écrit :On my
  Win7 system, all the toolbars for Writer forms behave properly (I
  didn't try all the controls, though). The problem I found was that
  I couldn't set up list box options (bug 33537). I do find it
  fairly difficult to tell if Design Mode is on or off, though, the
  contrast is not very high.On 2/1/2011 5:13 AM, Mobidoy wrote:I will give 
it another try but, before I do so, I will
do a cleaninstall just in case old LibO Settings could act on it.Just 
need to finish this form first for some clients then I will
haveplenty of time to play wit it:)ChrisOn 11-02-01 03:35 AM, Alexander 
Thurgood [via Document
Foundation MailArchive] wrote:Le 29/01/11 06:27, Mobidoy a écrit :Hi,In 
BASEI am trying to edit a form I have but, there is no dialog
boxopening whenright clickig -  selecting control.
Without it, not much can bedone. Also,I could not get the control 
bar so,
cannot add anything.Could someone verify they are also affected by 
this ?As I said in my previous post, I can get the properties of the
  controlto display by right clicking on it. I can also see the Design
  Modetoolbar, and can activate / deactivate it. This is with LibO
  final, MacOSX 10.6.6AlexI could myself confirm that Base forms seem 
to work properly,
  or at least are editable as usual both:- on W7 with final LO 3.3-  within 
Ubuntu 10.10 amd64 with LO RC3Clicking on edit icon (third from right hand side 
in top bar)
  switches normally in edit mode, both left and bottom tool bars
  being activated (while right-clicking on an open form would never
  switch to edit mode IMHO).Also possible to create a new form.Then, it is 
unlikely to be an application bug.Hope it may help in some way.Francois
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[libreoffice-users] Impress

2011-02-01 Thread KlausD

Hi,

searching the masterslide 'notepad'.
Is it possible to import it anyway?

greetings,
Klaus

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Re: [libreoffice-users] strange post layout

2011-02-01 Thread Andy Brown

On Tue Feb 01 2011 14:47:32 GMT-0800 (PST)  Francois M wrote:

Could someone in the list help me to
  understand the strange behavior that I got when posting here,
  please? No format of any kind, not even LF/CR, while my messages
  should be html formated.See my last answer Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 
Base form
  editing/creation impossible,missing dialog boxes andMenu
  bars dated Feb 1.My mails are generated through Thunderbird running 
Ubuntu 10.10,
  using Liberation Serif font, Unicode UTF-8.What looks very strange to me 
is that this seems to be the single
  occasion where this occurred: usually, my mails are received with
  a very standard lay-out (I mean outside this list).Thanks in advance for 
any advice in this area.Francois


Could be because mailing list only permit plain text messages.  Sending 
HTML messages can could problems with people that use screen readers, 
and some with vision problems.  Plain text works best for _all_ users 
and keeps the bandwidth down.  HTML message also increase the load for 
those that have limited bandwidth or pay per kilobyte transfer.


HTH
Andy


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[libreoffice-users] Intermittently slow Impress and high Xorg CPU usage

2011-02-01 Thread Peter Langfelder
Hi,

I'm new to libre office, having just installed it on my machine. I'm
trying to use impress but getting an intermittent temporary
slowdown/freeze that usually takes several seconds (up to a minute),
during which the CPU usage by Xorg goes way up (and soffice.bin also
shows about 20-30% CPU usage). This happens when I try to view a slide
I haven't looked at before, but also when I try to edit a slide, say
by changing some text. The typed text shows up after several seconds,
which of course makes editing difficult and very slow. The rest of the
machine runs fine.

Something similar though not as pronounced happens also on openoffice
3.2.1 that I used until now.

Is this behaviour normal or do I have a mis-configuration somewhere?

Thanks,

Peter

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittently slow Impress and high Xorg CPU usage

2011-02-01 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Peter,

Peter Langfelder wrote (02-02-11 00:29)

I'm new to libre office, having just installed it on my machine. I'm
trying to use impress but getting an intermittent temporary
slowdown/freeze that usually takes several seconds (up to a minute),
during which the CPU usage by Xorg goes way up (and soffice.bin also
shows about 20-30% CPU usage). This happens when I try to view a slide
I haven't looked at before, but also when I try to edit a slide, say
by changing some text. The typed text shows up after several seconds,
which of course makes editing difficult and very slow. The rest of the
machine runs fine.

Something similar though not as pronounced happens also on openoffice
3.2.1 that I used until now.

Is this behaviour normal or do I have a mis-configuration somewhere?


Can you pls check if it makes a difference when you turn of 
anti-alisasing (ToolsOptionsLibreOfficeView)?


And can you pls tell which OS you have. Sometimes that is relevant ;_0

Thanks,
Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.3 -- copy action

2011-02-01 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Ray,

thinman wrote (30-01-11 04:53)

Don't know if this is a feature but if one right clicks on a cell and
then right clicks on
another cell to paste, the original cell displays an animated broken
line border. One
then has to either hit ENTER or double click a cell to get rid of the
animated border.


Here (also here ;-) ) the Escape key is your friend.


Makes for additional work and is a deal breaker for me. OOCalc does not
behave  this way.


This it the way Excel behaves, what has been introduced in LibreOffice.

I don't like it so much, any don need it. ... and if I leave a 
spreadsheet for a long time, it starts consuming memory...

Maybe it is a candidate for the Calc compatibility settings?
(maybe you did already notice ToolsOptionsLibOCalcCompatibility)

Regards,
Cor


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Re: [libreoffice-users] strange post layout

2011-02-01 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/01/2011 06:04 PM, Andy Brown wrote:

On Tue Feb 01 2011 14:47:32 GMT-0800 (PST)  Francois M wrote:

Could someone in the list help me to
  understand the strange behavior that I got when posting here,
  please? No format of any kind, not even LF/CR, while my messages
  should be html formated.See my last answer Re: 
[libreoffice-users] Re: Base form

  editing/creation impossible,missing dialog boxes andMenu
  bars dated Feb 1.My mails are generated through Thunderbird 
running Ubuntu 10.10,
  using Liberation Serif font, Unicode UTF-8.What looks very 
strange to me is that this seems to be the single

  occasion where this occurred: usually, my mails are received with
  a very standard lay-out (I mean outside this list).Thanks in 
advance for any advice in this area.Francois


Could be because mailing list only permit plain text messages.  
Sending HTML messages can could problems with people that use screen 
readers, and some with vision problems.  Plain text works best for 
_all_ users and keeps the bandwidth down.  HTML message also increase 
the load for those that have limited bandwidth or pay per kilobyte 
transfer.


HTH
Andy

Any other reasons for turning off HTML?  The listed ones are enough. . . 
. . . .


Who is the web site and/or email hosting service that is causing you to 
pay for transfer and bandwidth?


GoDaddy.com, who I use for my multiple domains and web pages, is 
unlimited for both with their initial multi-domain hosting account - 
which is the next level up from one domain per account.


Is there any way I could use my hosting account to help out with 
LibreOffice's bandwidth and transfer needs?  I could be a second source 
for downloading the files from, or some other thing.  I have maybe 100 
gig of free space left on my account at the last time I checked.  I use 
the Krackedpress.com domain for email accounts only at this point, but 
host several others for myself and not-for-profit-organizations.  Since 
LibreOffice falls in the last category, I have no qualms in helping out 
this way.


Pass my offer on to the powers that be.  I am on a fixed income, so I 
cannot donate cash, but I have not problem donating space on my hosting 
account.  I can host another 20 or 30 domains with ease and could host 
100+/- more web pages worth of files over what I am currently hosting 
for me and my commitments. If you need bandwidth or transfer amounts, I 
have it in spades to spare.


T. Lungstrom, Elmira, NY, USA
founder of Kracked Press Productions.
forced to retire after a massive back injury and three strokes and my 
doctors give me the retire or else message.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittently slow Impress and high Xorg CPU usage

2011-02-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

If he is using Xorg then it 'has' to be linux?
Regards from
Tom :)







From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 1 February, 2011 23:40:58
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittently slow Impress and high Xorg CPU 
usage

Hi Peter,

Peter Langfelder wrote (02-02-11 00:29)
 I'm new to libre office, having just installed it on my machine. I'm
 trying to use impress but getting an intermittent temporary
 slowdown/freeze that usually takes several seconds (up to a minute),
 during which the CPU usage by Xorg goes way up (and soffice.bin also
 shows about 20-30% CPU usage). This happens when I try to view a slide
 I haven't looked at before, but also when I try to edit a slide, say
 by changing some text. The typed text shows up after several seconds,
 which of course makes editing difficult and very slow. The rest of the
 machine runs fine.
 
 Something similar though not as pronounced happens also on openoffice
 3.2.1 that I used until now.
 
 Is this behaviour normal or do I have a mis-configuration somewhere?

Can you pls check if it makes a difference when you turn of anti-alisasing 
(ToolsOptionsLibreOfficeView)?

And can you pls tell which OS you have. Sometimes that is relevant ;_0

Thanks,
Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Automation of Libre Office Calc 3.3 [RC4] Through dot NET

2011-02-01 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi RDS.

LtColRDSChauhan wrote (22-01-11 02:20)

1.  In continuation.

2.  When i run my dot NET application which interacts with Open Office
with both Open Office 3.3 (RC9) and Libre Office 3.3 (RC4) installed
on my PC, first the Open Office application starts up and the Libre
Office complains of the Calc file being locked and prompts, if the
locked file has to be opened in read only mode or a copy is to be
opened.  When the Open Office is closed, only then, my apllication
successfully interacts with the Calc file of Libre Office.

3.  I removed the Open Office from my PC, cleaned registry using
Advanced System Care and restarted my PC.  Now my dot NET application
raised exception External component has thrown an exception.

4.  So i made a solution out of the Libre Office SDK 3.3 (RC4)
..\Program Files\LibreOffice
3\Basis\sdk\examples\CLI\CSharp\Spreadsheet, which now raised  the
under mentioned exception

  Hello World!
Sample caught exception! System.Runtime.InteropServices.SEHException (0x80004005
): External component has thrown an exception.
at cppu.bootstrap(Referencecom::sun::star::uno::XComponentContext* )
at uno.util.Bootstrap.bootstrap()
at SpreadsheetDocHelper.connect(String[] args) in f:\Program 
Files\LibreOffic
e 3\Basis\sdk\examples\CLI\CSharp\Solution\Solution\SpreadsheetDocHelper.cs:line
  319
at SpreadsheetDocHelper..ctor(String[] args) in f:\Program Files\LibreOffice
3\Basis\sdk\examples\CLI\CSharp\Solution\Solution\SpreadsheetDocHelper.cs:line 3
0
at SpreadsheetSample..ctor(String[] args) in f:\Program Files\LibreOffice 
3\B
asis\sdk\examples\CLI\CSharp\Solution\Solution\SpreadsheetSample.cs:line 27
at SpreadsheetSample.MainSpreadsheetDocHelper(String[] args) in f:\Program 
Fi
les\LibreOffice 3\Basis\sdk\examples\CLI\CSharp\Solution\Solution\SpreadsheetSam
ple.cs:line 15


What is on this line 15?


5.  Please help.


Could you pls help by writing a bug report?
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=LibreOffice
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

If needed, pls write and we can help with it...

Whith a bug, the relevant developers and QA people can look, ask 
additional info if needed... and so on.


Kind regards,
Cor



Thanks and regards.

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:39 AM, LtColRDSChauhanrdsc1...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hello,
In a dot NET application of mine, i was earlier sucessfully
interacting [openning / editing / saving / closing] with Calc file of
Open Office 3.3 RC 8.  When i try to interact with Calc of Libre
Office, i get exception -
external component has thrown exception.
Please help.
Regards,
Lt Col (Retd) RDS Chauhan








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Re: [libreoffice-users] Question

2011-02-01 Thread Cor Nouws

Marius Popa wrote (28-12-10 16:36)

On 28 December 2010 17:30, Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl  wrote:

Marius Popa wrote (28-12-10 11:38)

  Good afternoon! My name is Marius Popa, a user running LibreOffice 3.3

rc2,
and I want to know how can I use the AutoComplete job.



There is a difference in how it works in Calc and in Writer.
Which of the two are you interested in at the moment ;-)


Please tell me for both in Calc and in Writer, but first for Writer.


Writer: Tools  Autocorrect options  WOrd completion tells it all.
In the menu Format  Autocorrect you can turn of While typing ;-)

HTH,
Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittently slow Impress and high Xorg CPU usage

2011-02-01 Thread Peter Langfelder
 Can you pls check if it makes a difference when you turn of anti-alisasing
 (ToolsOptionsLibreOfficeView)?

 And can you pls tell which OS you have. Sometimes that is relevant ;_0

Apologies for the omission, I'm using Fedora 13
(2.6.34.7-66.fc13.i686.PAE) on a Thinkpad T60 (Centrino Duo, 2.0GHz
IIRC) with Radeon graphics (I forget the exact model), 2GB of memory.

Tried to turn off antialiasing but that did not help.

Peter

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[libreoffice-users] Forums??

2011-02-01 Thread Jonathan Evatt
I was wondering if the LO team have any intention of setting up a forum?
It's a pretty simple thing to do these days, and surely it would make problem 
solving much easier than doing things via a mail list where every one ends up 
having to receive everyone else's emails just to find the answer to their own.

Is a forum in the works? I highly recommend it.

Jonathan


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[libreoffice-users] Printing doing odd things - BUG

2011-02-01 Thread Jonathan Evatt
Hi there,
I have a 178 page document. It uses paragraph styles, with levels applied, 
which are pulled through to two TOCs.
This document was originally created in Word on Mac. I use LO on Mac.

When I try to print three print dialogues came up, one after the other.
The first allows me to print from page 1 to 75. The next from 1 to 2. The next 
from page 1 to 91.

This is very odd. I need to get this document printed and am currently at a 
loss with it.

Any suggestions?

Also, obviously this is a bug.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittently slow Impress and high Xorg CPU usage

2011-02-01 Thread Cor Nouws

Peter Langfelder wrote (02-02-11 01:06)


Apologies for the omission, I'm using Fedora 13


No probs. Thanks,


(2.6.34.7-66.fc13.i686.PAE) on a Thinkpad T60 (Centrino Duo, 2.0GHz
IIRC) with Radeon graphics (I forget the exact model), 2GB of memory.

Tried to turn off antialiasing but that did not help.


H. Sorry to bother you with some more questions:
Is it with any presentation?
Is it the LibreOffice from the Fedora repository (I assume there is one)?

I do not have the issue on Ubuntu.

regards,
Cor



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittently slow Impress and high Xorg CPU usage

2011-02-01 Thread Peter Langfelder
Hi,

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
 Peter Langfelder wrote (02-02-11 01:06)

 Apologies for the omission, I'm using Fedora 13

 No probs. Thanks,

 (2.6.34.7-66.fc13.i686.PAE) on a Thinkpad T60 (Centrino Duo, 2.0GHz
 IIRC) with Radeon graphics (I forget the exact model), 2GB of memory.

 Tried to turn off antialiasing but that did not help.

 H. Sorry to bother you with some more questions:
 Is it with any presentation?

Opened a new presentation from a template and everything seems to be
running at a brisk clip, so it may be a particular presentations
issue. I have lots of pictures in it that are imported either form
eps (Encapsulated postscript) or from windows metafiles.

If it's of any help, in the past (OO 3.[0123].x) I used to notice a
lot of usage from ghostscript (gs) which I assumed was converting and
apparently re-converting the eps pictures to a raster image. Nothing
like that now though.

 Is it the LibreOffice from the Fedora repository (I assume there is one)?

There's not libreoffice for F13 (the current one is F14) so I
downloaded the RPMs from libreoffice.org. Installation went ok.

Thanks,

Peter

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittently slow Impress and high Xorg CPU usage

2011-02-01 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/01/2011 07:11 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:

Peter Langfelder wrote (02-02-11 01:06)


Apologies for the omission, I'm using Fedora 13


No probs. Thanks,


(2.6.34.7-66.fc13.i686.PAE) on a Thinkpad T60 (Centrino Duo, 2.0GHz
IIRC) with Radeon graphics (I forget the exact model), 2GB of memory.

Tried to turn off antialiasing but that did not help.


H. Sorry to bother you with some more questions:
Is it with any presentation?
Is it the LibreOffice from the Fedora repository (I assume there is one)?

I do not have the issue on Ubuntu.

regards,
Cor


What is in the presentation that would cause it to be slow?
Unless you have heavy video, a standard Thinkpad graphics card
should have no problems with the images.  The CPU and speed
also should not have any difficulty.

What is the size of the presentation?  File size and page number.
Can you email it to someone - OFF LIST - if you get their off-list
email address?

I use Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit and do not have anything but stock
on board graphics and I never had any trouble with any presentation
that I have tried.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittently slow Impress and high Xorg CPU usage

2011-02-01 Thread Peter Langfelder

 Opened a new presentation from a template and everything seems to be
 running at a brisk clip, so it may be a particular presentations
 issue. I have lots of pictures in it that are imported either form
 eps (Encapsulated postscript) or from windows metafiles.

I put the offending presentation up at

http://peterlangfelder.com/presentation.odp

Peter

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittently slow Impress and high Xorg CPU usage

2011-02-01 Thread Cor Nouws

Peter Langfelder wrote (02-02-11 01:22)


Opened a new presentation from a template and everything seems to be
running at a brisk clip, so it may be a particular presentations
issue. I have lots of pictures in it that are imported either form
eps (Encapsulated postscript) or from windows metafiles.


Do you know (or could you test) if the problem is the same in OOo3.3.0?
I know there has been quite some work going on in OOo on graphics, 
rendering 3D etc. Maybe the problem is there too. Maybe not ;-)


And is it possible to cut the presentation back to say two or three 
slides, that do have the problem and that you could share for a Bug/Issue?



If it's of any help, in the past (OO 3.[0123].x) I used to notice a
lot of usage from ghostscript (gs) which I assumed was converting and
apparently re-converting the eps pictures to a raster image. Nothing
like that now though.


Is it the LibreOffice from the Fedora repository (I assume there is one)?


There's not libreoffice for F13 (the current one is F14) so I
downloaded the RPMs from libreoffice.org. Installation went ok.


Clear enough.

Thanks,
Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-users] strange post layout

2011-02-01 Thread Andy Brown
On Tue Feb 01 2011 15:44:52 GMT-0800 (PST)  webmaster for Kracked Press 
Productions wrote:
Any other reasons for turning off HTML?  The listed ones are enough. . . 
. . . .


Who is the web site and/or email hosting service that is causing you to 
pay for transfer and bandwidth?


No one is making me pay for per transfer bandwidth.  I am quite sure 
there are members of this list that have to pay extra though.  This has 
been hashed over on the OOo lists so I am sure you have seen it.


Is there any way I could use my hosting account to help out with 
LibreOffice's bandwidth and transfer needs?  I could be a second source 
for downloading the files from, or some other thing.  I have maybe 100 
gig of free space left on my account at the last time I checked.  I use 
the Krackedpress.com domain for email accounts only at this point, but 
host several others for myself and not-for-profit-organizations.  Since 
LibreOffice falls in the last category, I have no qualms in helping out 
this way.


Pass my offer on to the powers that be.  I am on a fixed income, so I 
cannot donate cash, but I have not problem donating space on my hosting 
account.  I can host another 20 or 30 domains with ease and could host 
100+/- more web pages worth of files over what I am currently hosting 
for me and my commitments. If you need bandwidth or transfer amounts, I 
have it in spades to spare.


Where did I say that LibreOffice needed bandwidth?


Andy

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittently slow Impress and high Xorg CPU usage

2011-02-01 Thread Cor Nouws

Cor Nouws wrote (02-02-11 01:39)


Do you know (or could you test) if the problem is the same in OOo3.3.0?
I know there has been quite some work going on in OOo on graphics,
rendering 3D etc. Maybe the problem is there too. Maybe not ;-)

And is it possible to cut the presentation back to say two or three
slides, that do have the problem and that you could share for a Bug/Issue?


Ah, see your reply to webkr.
Testing now ...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittently slow Impress and high Xorg CPU usage

2011-02-01 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Peter,

Cor Nouws wrote (02-02-11 01:43)

Cor Nouws wrote (02-02-11 01:39)


Do you know (or could you test) if the problem is the same in OOo3.3.0?
I know there has been quite some work going on in OOo on graphics,
rendering 3D etc. Maybe the problem is there too. Maybe not ;-)

And is it possible to cut the presentation back to say two or three
slides, that do have the problem and that you could share for a
Bug/Issue?


Ah, see your reply to webkr.
Testing now ...


LibO and OOo are handling this evenly bad.
Deleting slides 19-25 (objects) does not (really) help.
Saving the file (after a change) is no joy too.

Looks as if the last slide (#64) is taking most resources.

Opening in OOo 320 is much faster, though the object on #64 still is 
demanding. (did not try OOo 321)


Could you pls be so kind to file an issue for OOo ?

Thanks,

Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittently slow Impress and high Xorg CPU usage

2011-02-01 Thread Cor Nouws

Cor Nouws wrote (02-02-11 02:08)


Could you pls be so kind to file an issue for OOo ?


You may also have a look at
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105116
I wouldn't be surprised if that is at least closely related.

Could you, if you file an issue, post the number here?

Thanks,
Cor

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[libreoffice-users] using EndNote X4 in LibreOffice? (Windows 7, 64-bit)

2011-02-01 Thread Claire Curry
I have installed the EndNote X4 OpenOffice extension (LibreOffice is not
officially supported by EndNote at this time) into LibreOffice 3.3.0.  The
version of LibreOffice is OOO330m19 (Build:6) tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4.  The
toolbar will insert citations but crashes after most insertions.   I can
usually get one citation inserted and it will crash upon insertion of the
second citation.

 

It also crashes after using the other toolbar buttons for EndNote.  The
LibreOffice recovery tool allows the file to keep the inserted citation, but
I would rather it not crash every time.  I am running Windows 7 Professional
64-bit.  Can anyone provide ideas on how to keep it from crashing?  Thanks
for any help you can provide!

 

Regards,

Claire

 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittently slow Impress and high Xorg CPU usage

2011-02-01 Thread Peter Langfelder
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
 Cor Nouws wrote (02-02-11 02:08)

 Could you pls be so kind to file an issue for OOo ?

 You may also have a look at
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105116
 I wouldn't be surprised if that is at least closely related.

 Could you, if you file an issue, post the number here?

Not sure I understood correctly - I thought I should file this with
libreoffice, but I can't find a bug tracker on libreoffice.org... So I
filed the issue with openoffice.org, issue number 116758 - are the bug
trackers common for now?

Thanks,

Peter

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Forums??

2011-02-01 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-01 19:54, Andy Brown a écrit :

On Tue Feb 01 2011 12:21:25 GMT-0800 (PST) Jonathan Evatt wrote:

I was wondering if the LO team have any intention of setting up a forum?
It's a pretty simple thing to do these days, and surely it would make
problem solving much easier than doing things via a mail list where
every one ends up having to receive everyone else's emails just to
find the answer to their own.

Is a forum in the works? I highly recommend it.

Jonathan




There has been discussions in the related lists about adding forums to
the TDF and LibO sites. The last comments was a 'wait and see'.

If you prefer forums then the Official OOo forum [1] and the
'Unofficial OOo forum [2] also provide support for Libo. An unoffical
LibO forum [3] has also setup.


[1] http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/
[2] http://www.oooforum.org/
[3] http://libreofficeforum.org/forum

HTH



You can also make use of our Nabble sight. It works a lot like forums 
and brings together all of the mailing lists. You register there and use 
this if you find it easier to work with.


http://www.documentfoundation.org/nabble/

Cheers

Marc


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[libreoffice-users] Re: two articles about LibreOffice in eweek.com

2011-02-01 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-01 15:11, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit :


Here are two more articles about LibreOffice.

-

Linux, Open Source  Ubuntu News
Document Foundation Launches Breakaway Open Source LibreOffice 3.3 Suite
By: Fahmida Y. Rashid 2011-01-25

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/Document-Foundation-Launches-Breakaway-Open-Source-LibreOffice-33-Suite-254932/?kc=EWKNLLIN02012011STR2


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Linux, Open Source  Ubuntu:
LibreOffice 3.3 Suite Advances While Staying True to OpenOffice Roots
By Fahmida Y. Rashid on 2011-01-26

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/LibreOffice-33-Suite-Advances-While-Staying-True-to-OpenOffice-Roots-206088/?kc=EWKNLLIN02012011STR1





Thanks. We have added this to the LibO in the News wiki page.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/LibOInTheNews#English

Marc




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Re: [libreoffice-users] using EndNote X4 in LibreOffice? (Windows 7, 64-bit)

2011-02-01 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/01/2011 10:07 PM, Claire Curry wrote:

I have installed the EndNote X4 OpenOffice extension (LibreOffice is not
officially supported by EndNote at this time) into LibreOffice 3.3.0.  The
version of LibreOffice is OOO330m19 (Build:6) tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4.  The
toolbar will insert citations but crashes after most insertions.   I can
usually get one citation inserted and it will crash upon insertion of the
second citation.



It also crashes after using the other toolbar buttons for EndNote.  The
LibreOffice recovery tool allows the file to keep the inserted citation, but
I would rather it not crash every time.  I am running Windows 7 Professional
64-bit.  Can anyone provide ideas on how to keep it from crashing?  Thanks
for any help you can provide!



Regards,

Claire
Where did you get that extension?  I do not remember seeing it in the 
LibreOffice extension list.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Forums??

2011-02-01 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-02 00:33, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit :



You can also make use of our Nabble sight. It works a lot like forums
and brings together all of the mailing lists. You register there and
use this if you find it easier to work with.

http://www.documentfoundation.org/nabble/

Cheers

Marc



Was there any plans on creating a Forum for LibreOffice? I deal with
several of them for projects and systems. Most of these support forums
work out well and they gave up the idea of email list like this one.
They can offer an email when someone adds to the discussion of the topic
you are interested in. It is nice that you do have the Nabble option
though.



This is a recurring topic on the mailing lists (almost all of them). No 
plans. LibreOffice will be using the various established forums for now. 
If you are interested, you can use Nabble and search for forums to 
read up on the topic(s) which at times have become quite heated.


No need to start it here. :-)

Cheers

Marc


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[libreoffice-users] Re: two articles about LibreOffice in eweek.com

2011-02-01 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-02 00:26, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit :


Thanks. I hoped someone was collecting articles, besides myself. Thanks
for the WIKI link. Maybe this month a lot more online news and content
providers will present LibreOffice in the spotlight and tell people how
good LibreOffice is as a replacement for MSO.

In the above article Document Foundation Launches Breakaway Open Source
LibreOffice 3.3 Suite it talks about Oracle bought OOo from Sun, but
who did Sun buy to get the name and code, and was there someone before
it? I want to add a history to my link on one of my pages. One
article, I remember, stated that the code started about 10 years before
the open source version was created, which was now over ten years ago
for that.


Just Google for StarOffice Suite and you should be able to get the whole 
history.




I am changing my text and links from OpenOffice.org as my main office
suite choice to LibreOffice. I will call OOo Oracle's OpenOffice.org
and use it as second place for MS Office alternatives, with LibreOffice
as first place. I am always looking for documents and/or articles not
written by Document Foundation that supports my stand to use
LibreOffice as the preferred office package over MSO, and maybe OOo as
well. I am currently creating a CD/DVD handout with LibreOffice, its
add-ons for Windows/English, documentation, and PDF versions of copies
of articles I found interesting about LibreOffice. This disc will also
include as many other open source software so I will have a stuffed
full open source disc. LibreOffice is replacing OOo on this handout disc.




If you want different examples of CD/DVD handouts that people are 
preparing, you may want to check out the Marketing and USMarketing 
lists. There are 2-3 different styles being worked on with suggestions 
of content on the disks.







Cheers

Marc


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[libreoffice-users] The master document page break issue

2011-02-01 Thread Anders Jakobsson

Hello all,

I'm having an issue with master documents that I was thinking about 
reporting to Bugzilla. But my experiance with bug reports tells me this 
might be a man-behind-the-keyboard-issue so I thought I'd ask around first.


The problem is this. Whenever I create a set of sub-documents and a 
master created from a template with a custom page style, each 
sub-document is preceded by a page break. If I set the master and 
sub-documents to use the Standard page style this page break 
disappears. See the bullet list below on recreating this bug. It's being 
discussed here:
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=77040postdays=0postorder=ascstart=15sid=abd6929d87e55ba2c0ff6b622b93d9e4 
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=77040postdays=0postorder=ascstart=15sid=abd6929d87e55ba2c0ff6b622b93d9e4


So obviously it was an issue with OOo.

All I want here is to confirm this is still a bug and not some feature 
or that I'm doing something wrong before I file this with Bugzilla. In 
other words I'm not looking for a workaround, I already have one, I'm 
looking to get the problem fixed.


Thanks a bunch!

To recreate:

  1. Create a new Writer document and save it as a template.
  2. Create a new document from the template and write something in it
 using the Standard paragraph style. Save is as Document 1.
  3. Create another document from the template and write something in
 it using the Standard paragraph style. Save is as Document 2.
  4. Create a third document from the template and do
 File-Send-Create master document. Save as Master. If
 this doesn't work then do File-New-Master document and use
 the excellent Template changer extension to set the template of
 the master.
  5. Insert Document 1 and Document 2 in the master document. See how
 one beautifully follows the other on the same page.
  6. Close all documents and open up the template for editing. Create a
 new page style and save the template.
  7. Open the sub-documents and when asked update the styles with the
 ones from the template.
  8. Make sure the page style of the sub-documents is the newly created
 one and save them.
  9. Open up the master and be amazed at how the two sub-documents are
 now on two separate pages.


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*Anders Jakobsson*

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