Re: Project Management Software

2009-06-15 Thread Cort, Tom
trac is used at the Vermont Department of Taxes. Our largest trac project has 
around 65 users, 2200 tickets, and 7100 commits; it runs fine along with 
several other trac projects and subversion repositories on a 2.4 GHz P4 with 
1GB of RAM. It is very configurable yet easy to use out of the box. With 
mod_authnz_ldap we can authenticate users against our Active Directory domain.

It works very well for documentation, bug tracking, and source browsing. 
However if you are looking for a full project management package out of the 
box, then trac will likely fall short. Things you would expect in a project 
management package (example: Gantt charts) are not present in trac. However, 
most project management functionality not present in trac has been implemented 
in plug-ins. See trac-hacks.org for a listing of trac plug-ins.

-Tom


 -Original Message-
 From: Vermont Area Group of Unix Enthusiasts
 [mailto:va...@list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of Josh Smith
 Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:32 PM
 To: VAGUE@LIST.UVM.EDU
 Subject: Project Management Software
 
 Has anyone here ever used dotproject, taskjugger, or trac?  If so,
 what are your opinions on them?
 
 -Josh Smith



Re: Project Management Software

2009-06-15 Thread jonathan d p ferguson

hi.


On Jun 13, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Josh Smith wrote:

Has anyone here ever used dotproject, taskjugger, or trac?  If so,  
what are your opinions on them?


These are... products that do very different things. Could you please  
offer a more precise question?


IE: I want a Desktop App for building out a project plan (Microsoft  
Project, TaskJuggler, KProject, GNOME Planner, OpenWorkbench,  
OpenProj, OmniPlan)  vs

I want a web-app for Project management (DotProject, etc...) vs
I want an integrated Project Management and Source Code Management  
web application. (Trac, Bugzilla, Redmine, Mantis, Scarab, GForge,  
SourceForge, Jira, Unfuddle, etc, etc, etc) vs

I want a request tracker (RT).

I have used a variety of these tools over the years. After developing  
some kind of knowledge in the space, I happened across a reasonable  
listing and comparison of Issue Tracking systems and Revision Control  
systems at Wikipedia. See:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issue_tracking_systems

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_revision_control_software

I used to always suggest that people use Trac because it is easy to  
set up, and integrates well with Subversion. However, there are a  
number of shortcomings of Trac which are supposed to be addressed in  
versions post 1.0. Indeed, no Trac installation is complete without http://trac-hacks.org/ 
 a set of plugins. Nearly all of the plugins have been brought  
forward to support 0.11. The main problem with Trac, is that there is  
no cross-project view. So, if you're like me, and have 100's of short- 
term projects you're responsible for watching, Trac is a good way to  
lose your hair.


Otherwise, I have used Trac as the backbone of a collaborative system  
for a small shop, and it worked quite well. It is better suited for  
smaller teams, with an open development context.


I have happy memories of Bugzilla.

I recently discovered Redmine (written in Ruby), which supports things  
like Gantt Charts, and cross-project views of as many projects as you  
like. Please see http://redmine.org/. I have recently installed  
Redmine on Debian/Lenny. It wasn't totally trivial, but some tutorials  
exist, and the community is very helpful. You will need to read the  
manual first. It also includes many collaborative features that you  
otherwise have to add on to Trac (and Hack), such as a Forum. Much of  
the documentation is Ruby-centric, so just be prepared to read up a  
little on the Ruby Way.


If you like PHP over Ruby I'd suggest looking hard at Mantis.

I hope that helps a little.

have a day.yad
jdpf


Re: Project Management Software

2009-06-13 Thread Rubin Bennett
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 13:32 -0400, Josh Smith wrote:
 Has anyone here ever used dotproject, taskjugger, or trac?  If so,
 what are your opinions on them?
 
 -Josh Smith
I used dotproject quite extensively for a time, the time tracking
features were cool.  I was trying to use it more as a time tracking
system than it was intended for however, so I ended up not using it
anymore.  Overall, I found it to be well written and functional.

Never heard of taskjugger, and trac has a huge install base, but I
didn't like it a bit.

Rubin
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Re: Project Management Software

2009-06-13 Thread Frank Pagliughi

Josh Smith wrote:
Has anyone here ever used dotproject, taskjugger, or trac?  If so, 
what are your opinions on them?


-Josh Smith
I use Trac for software bug tracking, both for my own stuff and for a 
small group of engineers on a project. It was relatively simple to get 
up and running on an existing Apache server, and tied into the 
Subversion software repository on the server without a hitch. It's not 
as complete as some of the commercial packages I've used, but has a 
relatively simple interface that was easy to explain to the novices and 
tech support folks who had never used a similar system before.


So, in that limited context, I've found it quite easy and useful. But I 
don't know how it would be in a more expanded usage for full project 
management.


Frank Pagliughi


Re: Project Management Software

2009-06-13 Thread Bradley Holt
+1 for Trac.

We use Trac for all of our web development projects. The integration
with Subversion is very useful - commits can hook into tickets and you
can see a diff with one click from the ticket. Our team is rather
small (usually a max of 3 people on any given project) so I'm not sure
how it would work with larger teams. The milestones feature works well
if you're following an iterative development process.

Thanks,
Bradley

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Frank
Pagliughifpagliu...@mindspring.com wrote:
 Josh Smith wrote:

 Has anyone here ever used dotproject, taskjugger, or trac?  If so, what
 are your opinions on them?

 -Josh Smith

 I use Trac for software bug tracking, both for my own stuff and for a small
 group of engineers on a project. It was relatively simple to get up and
 running on an existing Apache server, and tied into the Subversion software
 repository on the server without a hitch. It's not as complete as some of
 the commercial packages I've used, but has a relatively simple interface
 that was easy to explain to the novices and tech support folks who had never
 used a similar system before.

 So, in that limited context, I've found it quite easy and useful. But I
 don't know how it would be in a more expanded usage for full project
 management.

 Frank Pagliughi




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