[Vo]:Submission to Journal of Nuclear Physics Forum

2011-06-22 Thread todd
The following was submitted to the Journal of Nuclear Physics Forum (http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=22#comments)this morning:PSCI-NETYour comment is awaiting moderation.June 22nd, 2011 at 8:53 AMSeehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8QdVwY98E– the steam generated by the E-Cat unit in this video provided by Steve Krivit is roughly the amount expected from 748 watts (3.4 amps X 220V) input power. Our home electric water kettle has a measured input power of 1270 watts, and the amount of steam generated by the water kettle exceeds the amount of steam shown in the video linked above. A qualitative analysis of the steam output shown in Krivit’s E-Cat demo video will be compared with our video of the steam generated by the electric water kettle and will be made available online athttp://psci.us/gold.htmlater today.The Greek Embassy in Washington, D.C., has been notified of these findings."The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding." ~Proverbs 9:10"These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world." ~John 16:33



Re: [Vo]:Submission to Journal of Nuclear Physics Forum

2011-06-22 Thread Daniel Rocha
If your theory it is that he is a scammer, you can bet he has
connections with high governmental entities in Greece. And, indeed, he
is a friend, or at least strongly associated with, of a former
minister and father of the actual prime minister of Greece.

http://efie.net/change/rossi-ecat-cold-fusion-reactor-update/

You can bet that in both hypothesis, in being true or false, your
complaint will not be heard. And given the economical and political
stress of Greece right now, that possibility is far remoter.

You should do something else, like, looking for the press.



RE: [Vo]:Submission to Journal of Nuclear Physics Forum

2011-06-22 Thread Robert Leguillon

The argument of, Our home electric water kettle has a measured input power of 
1270 watts, and the amount of steam generated by the water kettle exceeds the 
amount of steam shown in the video linked above is ridiculous. Legitimate 
arguments came be made from the expected volume of gas produced by boiling all 
of the input water, but a kettle full of water does not simulate water flow 
across a heating medium.
 
Slowing down or speeding up the water flow rate will necessarily change the 
amount of steam produced.  This rate can be easily calculated based on the rate 
of pump cycling x  the known pump displacement.  A static kettle does not come 
close to replicating the experimental conditions.
 Any expectations of gas discharge need to be centered on the volume of input 
water, full gas conversion, and include some subsequent condensation.  
Comparisons to kettles and light bulbs may be humorous, but they hold no real 
bearing on truly critical evaluation.
 
One thing that has come up, though, is the accuracy of the steam tests.  What I 
did find is that the Kullander report references a probe that was rated up to 
550C.  The only probe offered for that meter with that temperature threshold is 
a temperature probe, and should not have been used for any attempts at 
measuring humidity.  They make special probes for that.  This may have been a 
simple misunderstanding, but I do believe that the second test, if authentic, 
puts all of this to rest.  Calculating output power without the phase change 
makes for elementary thermodynamics.
 
Best,
 
R. L.



From: t...@wonksmedia.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:56:01 -0700
Subject: [Vo]:Submission to Journal of Nuclear Physics Forum


The following was submitted to the Journal of Nuclear Physics Forum 
(http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=22#comments) this 
morning:



PSCI-NETYour comment is awaiting moderation.

June 22nd, 2011 at 8:53 AM
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8QdVwY98E – the steam generated by the 
E-Cat unit in this video provided by Steve Krivit is roughly the amount 
expected from 748 watts (3.4 amps X 220V) input power. Our home electric water 
kettle has a measured input power of 1270 watts, and the amount of steam 
generated by the water kettle exceeds the amount of steam shown in the video 
linked above. A qualitative analysis of the steam output shown in Krivit’s 
E-Cat demo video will be compared with our video of the steam generated by the 
electric water kettle and will be made available online at 
http://psci.us/gold.htm later today.
The Greek Embassy in Washington, D.C., has been notified of these findings.





The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy 
is understanding.
   ~Proverbs 9:10


These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the 
world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world. 
  ~John 16:33

  

Re: [Vo]:Submission to Journal of Nuclear Physics Forum

2011-06-22 Thread Daniel Rocha
That vapor is a water gas. It is being produced at about 2g per
second. 18 grams of water have about 30 liters (1 mol at 373K) at
100C. So, 2 grams of water fills 3 liters or 3,000 cm^2 passing
through an opening with an area of 2 cm^2. So, you need to pass a
cilinder of 1500 cm in 1 second to keep the pressure constant inside
the boiler. That means, 15m/s.

That's fast as a hair dyer wind at maximum power.



Re: [Vo]:Submission to Journal of Nuclear Physics Forum

2011-06-22 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 09:56 AM 6/22/2011, t...@wonksmedia.com wrote:
The following was submitted to the Journal of 
Nuclear Physics Forum 
(http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=22#commentshttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=22#comments) 
this morning:


http://psci.us/gold.htmPSCI-NET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=22#comment-47826June 
22nd, 2011 at 8:53 AM
See 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8QdVwY98Ehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8QdVwY98E 
– the steam generated by the E-Cat unit in this 
video pprovided by Steve Krivit is roughly the 
amount expected from 748 watts (3.4 amps X 220V) 
input power. Our home electric water kettle has 
a measured input power of 1270 watts, and the 
amount of steam generated by the water kettle 
exceeds the amount of steam shown in the video 
linked above. A qualitative analysis of the 
steam output shown in Krivit’s E-Cat demo 
video will be compared with our video of the 
steam generated by the electric water kettle and 
will be made available online at 
http://psci.us/gold.htmhttp://psci.us/gold.htm later today.

The Greek Embassy in Washington, D.C., has been notified of these findings.


I'm sure they will be fascinated.

This is inadequate, because the steam exiting the 
hose, after three meters of hose, is being 
compared, I assume, with direct steam from a 
water kettle. Do this with three meters of black 
flexible hose, like that in the Krivit video, you 
will have something much more interesting.


That is, if the steam actually seen at the end of 
the long hose is similar to steam produced by 750 
watts, then the actual steam-generating power 
must be higher than that. I suspect quite a bit higher.


When the steam condenses, it shrinks enormously 
in volume, so what is being seen at the end of 
the hose is a pale shadow of the original. Which 
is why this whole demo is so shaky.