eeke...@fastmail.fm (Ethan Grammatikidis) writes:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:25:51 GMT
Paul Donnelly paul-donne...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
jason.cat...@gmail.com (Jason Catena) writes:
I've been wondering for years now why Acme (and Wily, which I used
first) only display text files.
It
Maybe, it would also be great if the column-handle could react in the same way
as the window-handle works:
B3 to hide all other columns, B2 to show all and maximize the current column,
B1 widen the current column.
I don't know whether it is even possible in current design, nor, if it is, how
c...@gli.cas.cz wrote:
Maybe, it would also be great if the column-handle could react in the same way
as the window-handle works:
B3 to hide all other columns, B2 to show all and maximize the current column,
B1 widen the current column.
I don't know whether it is even possible in current
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 04:58, c...@gli.cas.cz wrote:
Maybe, it would also be great if the column-handle could react in the same
way as the window-handle works:
B3 to hide all other columns, B2 to show all and maximize the current column,
B1 widen the current column.
wily does this
Maybe, it would also be great if the column-handle could react in the same
way as the window-handle works:
B3 to hide all other columns, B2 to show all and maximize the current
column, B1 widen the current column.
wily does this
ufff, so could sb put his/her hands on it to bring
jason.cat...@gmail.com (Jason Catena) writes:
I've been wondering for years now why Acme (and Wily, which I used
first) only display text files.
It seems to me that the content of an Acme window could be anything: a
picture, a postscript or PDF file, a star chart, a web page. Keeping
with
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:25:51 GMT
Paul Donnelly paul-donne...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
jason.cat...@gmail.com (Jason Catena) writes:
I've been wondering for years now why Acme (and Wily, which I used
first) only display text files.
It seems to me that the content of an Acme window could be
Oberon takes advantage of a structured text representation
where both the interpretation and graphic representation
of particular elements is provided by Oberon modules.
One demonstration had a little animated cartoon character
that could be cut and pasted into another frame, where it
continued to
I also take issue with the statement Acme is a text editor, that never
sounds right, no more than describing Emacs as
a text editor. It's natural to use Acme as a text editor and it provides
many more text-editing facilities than Rio
does, but it is also natural to use it as a file
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:32:09 +0200
c...@gli.cas.cz wrote:
I also take issue with the statement Acme is a text editor, that never
sounds right, no more than describing Emacs as
a text editor. It's natural to use Acme as a text editor and it provides
many more text-editing
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Ethan Grammatikidiseeke...@fastmail.fm wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:32:09 +0200
c...@gli.cas.cz wrote:
I also take issue with the statement Acme is a text editor, that never
sounds right, no more than describing Emacs as
a text editor. It's natural
Eric and myself, and I think maybe Ron, are using acme and acme-sac to
interact with a BlueGene/P system.
Not as glamorous, but an alternative senario - I use sam and rio
to write embedded and windows code.
I edit the code with sam, but I do my best not to ever access
the seperate rio snarf
This is funny: O/live supports both images and text. *but* It's been
months ago that I do not use it any longer to display images but only
for text. That way I may have more screen surface for text. Would
the same happen to acme? Or perhaps it's me.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:00 PM, John
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote:
Eric and myself, and I think maybe Ron, are using acme and acme-sac to
interact with a BlueGene/P system.
Not as glamorous, but an alternative senario - I use sam and rio
to write embedded and windows code.
I edit
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM, David Leimbachleim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote:
Eric and myself, and I think maybe Ron, are using acme and acme-sac to
interact with a BlueGene/P system.
Not as glamorous, but an alternative
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:07 PM, John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM, David Leimbachleim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net
wrote:
Eric and myself, and I think maybe Ron, are using acme and
It's
a lot easier to see (and not have in the first place) incorrect scope
and continuation with whitespace than with braces or parentheses.
do you have a reference for this claim?
- erik
Again, the layout mode seems to be a bug in Haskell not a feature, but
that's not a popular belief in that community.
It's only as complex as the various levels of scope you end up needing
in your program. Meaningful whitespace enforces a clean, readable,
delimiter-free style, making programs
It's
a lot easier to see (and not have in the first place) incorrect scope
and continuation with whitespace than with braces or parentheses.
i read this as it's a lot easier to see incorrect variations in the
tempo of a mucal piece with white noise than with a metronome
do you have a
2009/7/15 erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com:
It's
a lot easier to see (and not have in the first place) incorrect scope
and continuation with whitespace than with braces or parentheses.
do you have a reference for this claim?
Without turning this into a holy war, I really always see these
Devon's anecdote is along the lines of my position. I'm sure there's
a paper somewhere that counts parenthesis versus whitespace errors,
but I haven't yet read it. I have programmed Lisp and Haskell (at two
extremes), and from this experience at least much prefer whitespace to
parentheses. In
http://9fans.net/archive/2008/05/6
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Jason Catenajason.cat...@gmail.com wrote:
Devon's anecdote is along the lines of my position. I'm sure there's
a paper somewhere that counts parenthesis versus whitespace errors,
but I haven't yet read it. I have programmed
On that note, my personal experience has found it to be a lot easier
to find and correct scope issues in Python than it has to find missing
braces or semicolons in other languages, sometimes even with matching
enabled. This usually is the case for awful spaghetti-ish code.
I find Python's
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com wrote:
http://9fans.net/archive/2008/05/6
Haskell *will* tell you errors that don't make any sense (at least GHC
errors) when you don't have things like this done properly
do x - foo
y - bar
the y - bar must be directly under
Emacs is great for writing Lisp. Now, if only I could find the correct
.emacs invocation to make the tab key insert a tab character in C
mode, rather than a bunch of spaces the way His Holy Lunacy RMS
desires. If I wanted spaces instead of tabs, I'd type them!
OT for the list, but this is
acme is more than a buffer with text to edit, it also has the
filesystem interface
that allows programs to be written specifically for it (Mail, Wiki, etc).
I never thought that doing graphics in acme was a need, as most of the time
I'm just editing text and having some graphical up there would
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:42:20 +0200
Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com wrote:
http://9fans.net/archive/2008/05/6
Good to see this brought up. Whitespace may be the most comfortably readable
means of indicating flow, but it's fragile. Better, IMHO, is delimiters with
plenty of space around them,
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Chad Brownyand...@mit.edu wrote:
Emacs is great for writing Lisp. Now, if only I could find the correct
.emacs invocation to make the tab key insert a tab character in C
mode, rather than a bunch of spaces the way His Holy Lunacy RMS
desires. If I wanted spaces
fgb, your ability to hack is mighty indeed :-)
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Federico G. Benavento
benave...@gmail.comwrote:
acme is more than a buffer with text to edit, it also has the
filesystem interface
that allows programs to be written specifically for it (Mail, Wiki, etc).
I never
I find the best thing to do with languages with delimeters is to run code
through a code formatter often. I'm using Gnu indent for C code (especially
valuable when dealing with Gnu C :) ), is there a similar tool for Plan 9?
i find that formatting code well to begin with works best.
but when
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:51:02 -0700
David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com wrote:
http://9fans.net/archive/2008/05/6
Haskell *will* tell you errors that don't make any sense (at least GHC
errors) when you don't have
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:12:58 -0400
erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com wrote:
I find the best thing to do with languages with delimeters is to run code
through a code formatter often. I'm using Gnu indent for C code (especially
valuable when dealing with Gnu C :) ), is there a similar tool
Real World Haskell ch4 pp71-72
do x - foo
y - bar
the y - bar must be directly under the x on the previous line or it's a
syntax error, and the error you get from GHC is the last statement of a
do
construct must be an expression
Huh, so this Haskell syntax actually prevents you from
I've been wondering for years now why Acme (and Wily, which I used
first) only display text files.
It seems to me that the content of an Acme window could be anything: a
picture, a postscript or PDF file, a star chart, a web page. Keeping
with the spirit of small parts brought together, Acme
I always intended to do something about that but never got around to
it. Other things took precedence.
In any case I doubt it could ever work as well in Acme as it does in Oberon.
-rob
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Rob Pike robp...@gmail.com wrote:
I always intended to do something about that but never got around to
it. Other things took precedence.
In any case I doubt it could ever work as well in Acme as it does in
Oberon.
-rob
Rio works nicely though, and thanks
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