Re: [abcusers] Announcement: NoteEdit 2.2.2 released

2003-06-19 Thread Bernard Hill
, and musicians routinely write in corrections when they stumble across this sort of poor or misleading notation. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe

Re: [abcusers] Fwd: abc and microtonality

2003-06-24 Thread Bernard Hill
(to accommodate the ?future? microtones) Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Re: abc and microtonality

2003-06-24 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill wrote- Surely by the standard (www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/abc-draft.txt) H *is* predefined as fermata. But that's not the standard. That's the draft of the elusive next standard. I was advised by Chris Walshaw himself

Re: [abcusers] Re: abc and microtonality

2003-06-25 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill wrote: I was advised by Chris Walshaw himself that that is the current standard and has replaced the one on the standard web site. Cool. Thanks. First I'd heard. No mention of it on Chris's web site (still refers

Re: [abcusers] Re: abc and microtonality

2003-06-25 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeff Bigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:06:28 +0100 From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill wrote- Surely by the standard (www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/abc

Re: [abcusers] ABC 1.7 standard?

2003-06-30 Thread Bernard Hill
of standards is a conflict of interests. S/he can drive the standard in the direction of his/her own software. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your

Re: [abcusers] ABC 1.7 standard?

2003-06-30 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Henrik | Norbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | There was a standards committee (or some similar name) | some years ago. Don't remember who was on it, but I think it | should

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-06-30 Thread Bernard Hill
a standard these days. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-06-30 Thread Bernard Hill
, and it helps to use a font that can actually display them.) On a PC keyboard you can use the alt key, eg à is alt+0224 and á is Ctrl+alt+a. Have a look at Character Map (StartProgramsAccessoriesSystem ToolsCharacter Map) for the correct sequences. Or install dual-language support. Bernard

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread Bernard Hill
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Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] uni-frankfurt.de, Manuel Reiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Just no mention of how to get the \ character itself... ? While I can't imagine it being important for too many song lyrics, I'd guess '\\' will or at least should do

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: | | ... and what's the \?? code for £ anyway ? \163 ;-) To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/list s.html (Actually it's not: it's either 156 or 0163 :-) Bernard

[abcusers]New version, old software

2003-07-01 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] In fact in my opinion NO program should break backward compatibility! Hello there Bernard. We must stop meeting like this. :-) I think the problem is more a question of *forward

Re: [abcusers] The abc standard

2003-07-01 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes It is a very good idea to add an ABC version field to the header, to distinguish old ABC from new ABC. That gets my vote. And/or a change of file extension. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music

Re: [abcusers] The abc standard

2003-07-01 Thread Bernard Hill
and others use it to mean a turn that there are problems. Of course you can specify which you want with U: field but most examples I've seen don't. I don't believe it's only the ~ which has a problem either... Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written

Re: [abcusers] The abc standard

2003-07-01 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm in a slightly worse position, Dave. Music Publisher 5's abc import facility is almost at the finished stage and I don't want to undo any code writing! I have made a lot of progress

Re: [abcusers] The abc standard

2003-07-01 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I. Oppenheim writes: | On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: | | Is ~ a roll or a turn? | | According to ABC 1.7.6, it's a roll: Of course, a lot of people would ask What's the difference? ;-) And a lot of arrogant

Re: [abcusers] The abc standard

2003-07-01 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Henrik Norbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill wrote: [..] is the symbol for a chord, but I've seen +..+ also used +...+ for chords is obsolete long, long ago. Great. But does that mean there's no music out there with +..+? Change of time sig (etc) can

Re: [abcusers] The abc standard

2003-07-01 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Is ~ a roll or a turn? According to ABC 1.7.6, it's a roll: $ The standard set of definitions (if you do not $ redefine them) is: $ U: ~ = !roll! $ U: T = !trill! $ U: H = !fermata! $ U

Re: [abcusers] Abc Applications again

2003-07-02 Thread Bernard Hill
/abcapps/index.tpl' not found Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] My point of view on the abc standard

2003-07-02 Thread Bernard Hill
for capturing certain types of music in computer- and human- readable format. It may or not be read by software, it may or may not result in output in sound or on paper. It should not be linked intrinsically to any software either past or future. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system

Re: [abcusers] abc standard and application-dependence

2003-07-02 Thread Bernard Hill
is going to make of it which has not yet been told that ...; is a feature. I would suggest something along the !...! lines - !swing 4! or !swing 0! because presumably unrecognised !...! features are ignored by alien software. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-02 Thread Bernard Hill
whatsoever. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] abc standard and application-dependence

2003-07-02 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Laura Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard == Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bernard Maybe we need a register of accepted application names/codes. There is one on the sourceforge ABC site. It seems to be down at the moment, so I can't post an exact

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-02 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Buddha Buck wrote: For syntax (e.g., everything that isn't text, stick to stricty 7-bit ASCII characters. No accents, no other funny stuff. Just straight 7-bit ASCII. Agreed. Bernard Hill wrote

Re: [abcusers] re : My point of view on the abc standard

2003-07-02 Thread Bernard Hill
and writing music in a text editor. For graphical score editor (wysiwyg) and soon to support abc you can try Music Publisher (www.muspub.com) but if open source=free then No. I have a living to make. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Bernard Hill
. If you don't write lyrics you'll want them for a tune Richard title. Or even English: The First Noël That would be French. In English it's The First Nowell. Or if it's a boy's name you're referring to it's Noel ;-) Bernard Hill Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Laura Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard == Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Umm. Even if you only write in Spanish, French, German, Danish, Richard Norwegian, Swedish ... you're going to want non-127 accented Richard characters

Re: [abcusers] A bit of history

2003-07-03 Thread Bernard Hill
GAG |BAG ABd|Bee e2d |BAG E3|] the simplest??? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Free notation program for Windows - let's write it...

2003-07-03 Thread Bernard Hill
encourages the developer to develop code if there is no payment to the developer? I confess I don't understand the Linux setup *at all*. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland

Re: [abcusers] Free notation program for Windows - let's write it...

2003-07-03 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], A.M. Kuchling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 06:43 AM, Bernard Hill wrote: So what encourages the developer to develop code if there is no payment to the developer? Why are there amateur musicians who perform without being paid

Re: [abcusers] Free notation program for Windows - let's write it...

2003-07-03 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Calum Galleitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Thursday 03 July 2003 10:43 am, Bernard Hill wrote: So what encourages the developer to develop code if there is no payment to the developer? AMK mostly summarised it. I found it difficult to really understand why

Re: [abcusers] Free notation program for Windows - let's write it...

2003-07-03 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] | chemnitz.de, Joerg Anders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | | A short remark about this. Somtimes open source is equated with | cost free. But even if I'd produce a Qt-only version

Re: [abcusers] bloody ! again

2003-07-03 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: As a programmer I'm very concerned about ! as a line terminator. Now add two line terminators (presumably not illegal) abc abc|!trill! abc abc|! abc abc |! abc abc| According

Re: [abcusers] bloody ! again

2003-07-04 Thread Bernard Hill
principal for a future standard. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] bloody ! again

2003-07-04 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Possibly we could just add a warning about this problem to the standard (perhaps in an Implementation Suggestions section), and suggest this approach for dealing with it. SOunds good to me. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software

Re: [abcusers] bloody ! again

2003-07-04 Thread Bernard Hill
I had already implemented in my upcoming abc reader as it's an obvious omission. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http

Re: [abcusers] Free notation program for Windows - let's write it...

2003-07-04 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I'm not saying there will be no errors but we are talking shareware not big software house. I hope you are not implying that software sold by shareware methods is not as good as that sold off-the-shelf? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software

Re: [abcusers] Free notation program for Windows - let's write it...

2003-07-04 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bert Van Vreckem [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], A.M. Kuchling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes * Programming is fun. Not when you do it for a living. Good grief! How can you possibly do something for a living that you don't

Re: [abcusers] Solution for ! notation?

2003-07-05 Thread Bernard Hill
defined. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] abc2win and ! line breaks.

2003-07-05 Thread Bernard Hill
!! Good thought, Dave. You had me excited for a minute. However users of abc2win may well (probably?) encode their abcs by hand with a text editor. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk

Re: [abcusers] Solution for ! notation?

2003-07-05 Thread Bernard Hill
then it becomes obvious why they prefer it: and the same I guess goes for many other musicians who do not sight-read the music in normal performance. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk

Re: [abcusers] Stars and Bangs

2003-07-06 Thread Bernard Hill
line maybe not being right-justified. Does non-right justify mean the score could be = == === ? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http

Re: [abcusers] A-G fields in tune

2003-07-08 Thread Bernard Hill
. K:, L: and M: are much more common, but raise the same issue. /Henrik Er, what's an E: field? The draft 1.7.6 knows nothing of E. Come to think of it, what's an N: field? The draft says notes !!! Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-08 Thread Bernard Hill
'... Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

[abcusers] Acciaccaturas

2003-07-08 Thread Bernard Hill
Does abc have a separate way of notating acciaccaturas (the slashed grace note) as opposed to the appoggiatura (unslashed)? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe

[abcusers] K:Hp anyone?

2003-07-08 Thread Bernard Hill
I've never seen the K:HP or K:Hp implemented. Has anyone else? (That's Highland Bagpipe: HP=no key sig but an implied key of 2 sharps, Hp=key sig of 2 sharps + 1 natural and both force stems downwards for the tune). Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software

[abcusers] (..) means?

2003-07-08 Thread Bernard Hill
I've come across this lately: (excerpt) M:4/4 2e2 e3f|e2(G2 G2)Bc| d2f2 g2fg|e6 (3efg|\ a2a2 a3a|g2(B2 B2)Bc|d2dd c(B B2)\ What's the meaning of the parentheses when there is no number? It doesn't seem to be a shortcut for (2 - or is it? Play 2 in the time of 2? g Bernard Hill Braeburn

Re: [abcusers] A-G fields in tune

2003-07-08 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Er, what's an E: field? The draft 1.7.6 knows nothing of E. Good point! It still appeared in V1.6, and apparently it has rightfully been removed from V1.7.6. So satisfy my curiosity

Re: [abcusers] A-G fields in tune

2003-07-08 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Er, what's an E: field? The draft 1.7.6 knows nothing of E. It was used in abc2mtex in order to set the note-spacing for musicTeX. When musicTeX was replaced by musiXTeX---a much

Re: [abcusers] End of 2nd time bar

2003-07-08 Thread Bernard Hill
bar and does not have a descender at the right hand end. The only time it has 2 descenders is when it's the last bar. Gerou: Essential Dictionary of Music Notation. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http

Re: [abcusers] End of 2nd time bar

2003-07-08 Thread Bernard Hill
to implement it, it shouldn't cause any problems. Except that some other abc tools might not understand it. If you dig around in the abcuser archives, you'll find some mention of this topic. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians

Re: [abcusers] A-G fields in tune

2003-07-08 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill wrote: Er, what's an E: field? The draft 1.7.6 knows nothing of E. The 1.6 standard says it's Elemskip. No, I don't know either. I don't think it's meaningful anywhere except in abc2mtex. Come to think

Re: [abcusers] K:Hp anyone?

2003-07-08 Thread Bernard Hill
in Music Publisher for playback. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] End of 2nd time bar

2003-07-08 Thread Bernard Hill
on it. And notationally it's not required either... Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] End of 2nd time bar

2003-07-09 Thread Bernard Hill
ending each of the 1st/2nd time sections with a repeat sign __ __ ___ |1 ||2 ||3 |==:|==:|===|= Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-09 Thread Bernard Hill
, but a fermata over a barline means a pause here and that has no meaning at the end, I suggest. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your

Re: [abcusers] (..) means?

2003-07-09 Thread Bernard Hill
) go at the stem end or near. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] End of 2nd time bar

2003-07-09 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do I tell where the 2nd time bar bracket ends if it is not the end of the piece? Conventionally it goes for one bar and does not have a descender at the right hand end. The only time

Re: [abcusers] End of 2nd time bar

2003-07-09 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers | | I opened my copy of Scots Guards, flipped a few pages, and | on page 15 I found this bar in The Inverness Gathering that | (with L:1/16) could be written

Re: [abcusers] End of 2nd time bar

2003-07-09 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmm. I'm afraid this is very far from conventional in any general sense. I play music full of these things at least twice a week, and have rarely seen one restricted to one bar

Re: [abcusers] (..) means?

2003-07-09 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: | Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | | Some staff notation makes a distinction with different curve shapes | for slur and tie, but you may need to read a lot of fine print to | find

Re: Vocal Music [abcusers]

2003-07-09 Thread Bernard Hill
the practice of using separated notes for vocal music. It's a bad practice that doesn't help anyone read the music. As a singer I say hear, hear! to that! Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-10 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 09:49:22PM -0400, Eric Galluzzo wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 09:11, Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Where does this bang thing come from? ! was always

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-10 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, I remember pling! On my University maths course in the 1960s. Along with carrot as in A-carrot: upside down circumflex over an A. Caret (pronounced the French way rather than like

Re: [abcusers] End of 2nd time bar

2003-07-10 Thread Bernard Hill
the user there's a mistake and asks for a fix before playing. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-11 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes John Norvell wrote: In this line BBe2A4 e2 :| Z ||! what does the Z mean? A Rest. But I wonder if it meas a whole bar rest (uppercase) - z8 is more usual assuming L:1/8 So is Z a new symbol for a full bar rest? Bernard

Re: [abcusers] Re: End of 2nd time bar

2003-07-11 Thread Bernard Hill
to know what the rules are: or allow the software to stop and ask. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-11 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 11:04:32AM +0200, Guido Gonzato wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Good grief, is anyone ever going to put all this lot together? It's not in the official standard or the draft

Re: [abcusers] A question about beams

2003-07-11 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wil Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Skink does it the way you want. AFAIK, no other program will. Music Publisher does... soon to have abc import and export. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians

Re: [abcusers] Re: End of 2nd time bar

2003-07-11 Thread Bernard Hill
confused (read:an impossible or ambiguous instruction) and then stops. For both programs, correct the music and they're happy. Isn't this a completely reasonable way to carry on? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http

Re: [abcusers] Acciaccaturas

2003-07-12 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean-Francois Moine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:44:26 +0100, Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does abc have a separate way of notating acciaccaturas (the slashed grace note) as opposed to the appoggiatura (unslashed)? I think it exists only

Re: [abcusers] Re: End of 2nd time bar

2003-07-14 Thread Bernard Hill
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Re: [abcusers] Re: Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-16 Thread Bernard Hill
shown with no keysig and accidentals in front of every note instead. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Re: End of 2nd time bar

2003-07-16 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: Surely a performer wants to know what the writer meant? And lack of repeat starts means there is no information as to how the tune was to be played, eg whether the whole tune repeated or just

Re: [abcusers] Acciaccaturas

2003-07-17 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Calum Galleitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tuesday 15 July 2003 8:05 pm, Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean-Francois Moine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Note that different lengths on grace notes are also handled by abcm2ps. For compatibility

Re: [abcusers] ABC sects

2003-07-18 Thread Bernard Hill
then? -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

2003-07-19 Thread Bernard Hill
on one line is legal? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

2003-07-20 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Novelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Anyway, here's an example: T:title W:music by ... W:words by ... N:sources, discography

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

2003-07-21 Thread Bernard Hill
) combination, but I don't think this will work on Windoze or Mac systems. Why shouldn't it? Frank Nordberg http://www.musicaviva.com Er, why *should* it? And in fact it doesn't on Windows unless the program has been explicitly written to recognise these keystrokes. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software

Re: [abcusers] copyright sign

2003-07-21 Thread Bernard Hill
, but it could go in C:, A:, D: or B: as well. As long as you realise that (C) is not a copyright sign legally. The situation varies in different countries: some insist on © and some on the word Copyright which is why you sometimes see Copyright © Bernard Hill, 2003 etc Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-21 Thread Bernard Hill
or another completely new one should be used. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Use of !

2003-07-21 Thread Bernard Hill
. This would enable different writer to use either convention for future abc files as they wish. Seconded. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your

Re: [abcusers] Re: ABC sects

2003-07-21 Thread Bernard Hill
tentatively calls for the use of ! for this purpose. Probably because it wasn't in 1.x... Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser

Re: [abcusers] Re: ABC sects

2003-07-21 Thread Bernard Hill
always use another one. What I want is an unambiguous definition of what a legal file may contain: *that* is the standard! You tell 'em, Dave :-) Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

2003-07-22 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes the UK inch had previously been been equal to 2.54muttermuttermutter cm, 2.539998 Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

2003-07-22 Thread Bernard Hill
also taught decimetres, dekametres, hectametres, centigrams, decigrams etc etc alongside centimetres. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

2003-07-22 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes But if you measure it in, say, attoparsecs, this is the definition of a parsec (and of the atto- prefix). Love it! 1 attoparsec is approx 3.1cm or 1.2 ... as everyone knows g Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Bernard Hill
thoughts? Arent [5] software developers I don't expect to *use* abc format in anger as it's not where I am musically, but I expect to understand it and serve others as I write abc interfaces to my software. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written

Re: (Getting OT)[abcusers] New standard(s)

2003-07-22 Thread Bernard Hill
upwards. In ensemble I have a top G and in solo work an F. (Haydn St Nicholas mass has a low Eb and then 2 bars later a top G for the undivided basses (!)) Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

2003-07-22 Thread Bernard Hill
a broader term in dancing, and it seems reasonable that barlines should divide the music into bars, not measures :-) Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

2003-07-22 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | But if you measure it in, say, attoparsecs, | this is the definition of a parsec (and of the atto- prefix). | | Love it! 1

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

2003-07-22 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: not to speak of hemisemidemiquavers It's actually hemidemisemiquavers. But my Australian customers explicly told me they use hdsqs. And 1/128th notes are semihemidemisemiquavers You

Re: [abcusers] copyright sign

2003-07-23 Thread Bernard Hill
) is not sufficient. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

[abcusers] New draft special characters

2003-07-23 Thread Bernard Hill
and y? Paragraph marker §? (e) is cedilla C really to be \ c space c? Why not \c? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http

Re: [abcusers] New draft special characters

2003-07-23 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes After a week away I'm reading the draft 2.0.0. Doubtless I will have other comments which I will make but simply the special characters: (a) I presume the list is not exhaustive. ie É (Capital E acute) and the like (b) I think

Re: [abcusers] New draft special characters

2003-07-23 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: (a) I presume the list is not exhaustive. ie É (Capital E acute) and the The table only gives a number of examples for each class of supported accents. (b) I think we need a copyright

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

2003-07-23 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arent Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] not to speak of hemisemidemiquavers It's actually hemidemisemiquavers. But my Australian customers explicly told me they use hdsqs. And 1/128th notes are semihemidemisemiquavers You

Re: [abcusers] Chord length

2003-07-24 Thread Bernard Hill
I'm not versatile enough, it seems to me that a passage such as Dotted Half A Quarter A --- stems up Half F Half F--- stems down cannot be notated in abc as [] notation. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system

Re: [abcusers] Version 2.0.0 voice overlay and lyrics

2003-07-24 Thread Bernard Hill
other. Example: A2 E2 G2 A2|A B c d e f g a A A A A A A A A A G F E D C B, A,|] So what does that mean? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point

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