Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Justina Colmena ~biz
On May 14, 2020 4:52:05 PM AKDT, Theo de Raadt wrote: >Aisha Tammy wrote: > ... > >I suspect you are an enthusiastic person who wants to send a mail to >us, >telling us what to do. > >But that which you dream of? You won't left a leg to do any of it. > Lift a leg? We simply cannot get our

Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Justina Colmena ~biz
On May 14, 2020 3:24:32 PM AKDT, Theo de Raadt wrote: >Kyle Willett wrote: > >> I think OpenBSD advocacy could do more too. I read on an open source >> news site that Lenovo is going to start offering a Fedora Linux >option >> on their Thinkpad lineup and already certifies some for Red Hat

Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Aisha Tammy
On 5/14/20 8:52 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Aisha Tammy wrote: > >> On 5/14/20 7:24 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >>> Kyle Willett wrote: >>> I think OpenBSD advocacy could do more too. I read on an open source news site that Lenovo is going to start offering a Fedora Linux option on

Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Aisha Tammy
On 5/14/20 7:24 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Kyle Willett wrote: > >> I think OpenBSD advocacy could do more too. I read on an open source >> news site that Lenovo is going to start offering a Fedora Linux option >> on their Thinkpad lineup and already certifies some for Red Hat >> Enterprise

Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
That's incredibly insightful! You are precisely the true leader OpenBSD needs to compete in the harsh corporate environment that gives us no respect! Justina Colmena ~biz wrote: > > > > On May 14, 2020 5:24:38 PM AKDT, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > >So you go find a mailing list noone in

Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
OpenBSD should become a company selling hardware? That idea is complete bullshit. I have a better idea. How about the people who don't do anything except come up with stupid ideas go away. Kyle Willett wrote: > I did some research about OpenBSD in my graduate cyber security class > and came

Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Derek
Hello, my name’s Derek, I subscribed to this email list last year when I was attempting to build a home OpenBSD router. It worked however I’ve got intermediate command line skills at best and I switched over to pfSense for the GUI in order to configure VLANs and OpenVPN client. I think an

Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
Justina Colmena ~biz wrote: > > > > On May 14, 2020 4:52:05 PM AKDT, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >Aisha Tammy wrote: > > ... > > > >I suspect you are an enthusiastic person who wants to send a mail to > >us, > >telling us what to do. > > > >But that which you dream of? You won't left a leg to

Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
Justina Colmena ~biz wrote: it must feel refreshing to rant about the things you find unfair and yet won't lift a finger to actually change, oh except finger after finger on a keyboard into a mailing list noone reads > "We" are suffering from many of the same hardware problems you are, when

Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
You've done nothing except believe that words are action. Aisha Tammy wrote: > On 5/14/20 8:52 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Aisha Tammy wrote: > > > >> On 5/14/20 7:24 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >>> Kyle Willett wrote: > >>> > I think OpenBSD advocacy could do more too. I read on an

Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
Aisha Tammy wrote: > On 5/14/20 7:24 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Kyle Willett wrote: > > > >> I think OpenBSD advocacy could do more too. I read on an open source > >> news site that Lenovo is going to start offering a Fedora Linux option > >> on their Thinkpad lineup and already certifies

Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
Kyle Willett wrote: > I think OpenBSD advocacy could do more too. I read on an open source > news site that Lenovo is going to start offering a Fedora Linux option > on their Thinkpad lineup and already certifies some for Red Hat > Enterprise Linux. I think it would be great if we could get

Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Kyle Willett
I think OpenBSD advocacy could do more too. I read on an open source news site that Lenovo is going to start offering a Fedora Linux option on their Thinkpad lineup and already certifies some for Red Hat Enterprise Linux. I think it would be great if we could get some hardware manufacturer to

Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Aisha Tammy
On 5/14/20 11:03 AM, Austin Hook wrote: > > Bravo, Aisha, > > I myself was wondering why "advocacy" no longer shows up on the lists of > OpenBSD mailing lists. It was a nice place to discuss ideas that are not > just confined to technical software matters. I see that is still works >

OpenBSD compatibility with inexpensive USB microscopes

2020-05-14 Thread Austin Hook
Wonder if anyone is successfully using video(1) with one of those inexpensive USB devices that one finds on eBay. Austin

Re: Improvements and thoughts on small projects for advocacy

2020-05-14 Thread Austin Hook
Bravo, Aisha, I myself was wondering why "advocacy" no longer shows up on the lists of OpenBSD mailing lists. It was a nice place to discuss ideas that are not just confined to technical software matters. I see that is still works however. Next thing is to ask the devs if they would