Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-26 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
Hi Pei, I'm giving a presentation to CityU of Hong Kong new week, on AGI in general and about my project. Can I use your listing of representative AGIs in one slide? Also, if I spend 1 slide to talk about NARS, what phrases would you recommand? ;) Thanks a lot! YKY - This list is

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-26 Thread Pei Wang
On 6/26/07, YKY (Yan King Yin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pei, I'm giving a presentation to CityU of Hong Kong new week, on AGI in general and about my project. Can I use your listing of representative AGIs in one slide? Sure --- it is already in public domain. Also, if I spend 1 slide

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-24 Thread Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
Pei Wang wrote: Hi, I put a brief introduction to AGI at http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/AGI-Intro.htm , including an AGI Overview followed by Representative AGI Projects. This looks pretty good to me. My compliments. (And now the inevitable however...) However, the distinction you

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-24 Thread Pei Wang
Understood. The distinction isn't explained in the short introduction at all, and that is why I linked to my paper http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/wang.AI_Definitions.pdf , which explains it in a semi-formal manner. Pei On 6/24/07, Eliezer S. Yudkowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pei Wang wrote:

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-23 Thread Bo Morgan
Thanks for putting this together! If I were to put myself into your theory of AI research, I would probably be roughly included in the Structure-AI and Capability-AI (better descriptions of the brain and computer programs that have more capabilities). I haven't heard of a lot of these

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-23 Thread Pei Wang
On 6/23/07, Bo Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for putting this together! If I were to put myself into your theory of AI research, I would probably be roughly included in the Structure-AI and Capability-AI (better descriptions of the brain and computer programs that have more

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-23 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
On 6/22/07, Pei Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I put a brief introduction to AGI at http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/AGI-Intro.htm , including an AGI Overview followed by Representative AGI Projects. I think that hybrid and integrated descriptions are useful, especially when seeing AGI in the

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-23 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
On 6/23/07, Lukasz Stafiniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that hybrid and integrated descriptions are useful, especially when seeing AGI in the broader context of agent systems, but they need to be further elaborated (I posted about TouringMachines hoping to bring that up). For me, now, they

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-23 Thread Bo Morgan
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, Pei Wang wrote: ) On 6/23/07, Bo Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ) ) Thanks for putting this together! If I were to put myself into your ) theory of AI research, I would probably be roughly included in the ) Structure-AI and Capability-AI (better descriptions of the

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-23 Thread William Pearson
On 22/06/07, Pei Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I put a brief introduction to AGI at http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/AGI-Intro.htm , including an AGI Overview followed by Representative AGI Projects. It is basically a bunch of links and quotations organized according to my opinion.

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-23 Thread Mike Tintner
- Will Pearson: My theory is that the computer architecture has to be more brain-like than a simple stored program architecture in order to allow resource constrained AI to implemented efficiently. The way that I am investigating, is an architecture that can direct the changing of the

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-23 Thread Pei Wang
On 6/23/07, Lukasz Stafiniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that hybrid and integrated descriptions are useful, especially when seeing AGI in the broader context of agent systems, but they need to be further elaborated (I posted about TouringMachines hoping to bring that up). For me, now, they

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-23 Thread Pei Wang
On 6/23/07, Bo Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, Pei Wang wrote: ) On 6/23/07, Bo Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ) ) Thanks for putting this together! If I were to put myself into your ) theory of AI research, I would probably be roughly included in the ) Structure-AI

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-23 Thread Pei Wang
On 6/23/07, William Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the overview, but I don't think it captures every possible type of AGI design approach. And may constrain peoples thoughts as to the possibilities overly. Of course I didn't claim that, and I'm sorry if it is understood that way.

Foundational/Integrative approach was Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-23 Thread William Pearson
On 23/06/07, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Will Pearson: My theory is that the computer architecture has to be more brain-like than a simple stored program architecture in order to allow resource constrained AI to implemented efficiently. The way that I am investigating, is an

Re: Foundational/Integrative approach was Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-23 Thread Bo Morgan
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007, William Pearson wrote: ) I think the brains programs have the ability to protect their own ) storage from interference from other programs. The architecture will ) only allow programs that have proven themselves better* to be able to ) override this protection on other

Re: Foundational/Integrative approach was Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-23 Thread William Pearson
On 24/06/07, Bo Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 24 Jun 2007, William Pearson wrote: ) I think the brains programs have the ability to protect their own ) storage from interference from other programs. The architecture will ) only allow programs that have proven themselves better* to be

Re: Foundational/Integrative approach was Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-23 Thread William Pearson
Sorry, sent accidentally while half finished. Bo wrote: This is only partially true, and mainly only for the neocortex, right? For example, removing small parts of the brainstem result in coma. I'm talking about control in memory access, and by memory access I am referring to synaptic changes

[agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-22 Thread Pei Wang
Hi, I put a brief introduction to AGI at http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/AGI-Intro.htm , including an AGI Overview followed by Representative AGI Projects. It is basically a bunch of links and quotations organized according to my opinion. Hopefully it can help some newcomers to get a big

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-22 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
On 6/22/07, Pei Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I put a brief introduction to AGI at http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/AGI-Intro.htm , including an AGI Overview followed by Representative AGI Projects. Thanks! As a first note, SAIL seems to me a better replacement for Cog, because SAIL has

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-22 Thread Mike Tintner
Pei: I put a brief introduction to AGI at http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/AGI-Intro.htm , including an AGI Overview followed by Representative AGI Projects. Very helpful. Thankyou. - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options,

Re: [agi] AGI introduction

2007-06-22 Thread Pei Wang
On 6/22/07, Lukasz Stafiniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a first note, SAIL seems to me a better replacement for Cog, because SAIL has much generality and some theoretical accomplishment where Cog is (AFAIK) hand-crafted engineering. In many aspects, I agree that SAIL is more interesting than