Bob Mottram wrote:
On 10/02/2008, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems we have different ideas about what AGI is. It is not a product that
you can make and sell. It is a service that will evolve from the desire to
automate human labor, currently valued at $66 trillion per year.
It's worth noting in this connection that once you get up to the level of
mammals, everything is very high compliance, low stiffness, mostly serial
joint architecture (no natural Stewart platforms, although you can of course
grab something with two hands if need be) typically with significant
On 11/02/2008, J Storrs Hall, PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that state of the art is just now getting to dynamically-stable-only
biped walkers. I've seen a couple of articles in the past year, but it
certainly isn't widespread, and it remains to be seen how real.
Famous robots such as
Bob Mottram wrote:
On 11/02/2008, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But now, by contrast, if you are assuming (as Matt does, I believe) that
somehow a cluster of sub-intelligent specialists across the net will
gradually increase in intelligence until their sum total amounts to a
full
J Storrs Hall, PhD wrote:
Hmmm. I'd suspect you'd spend all your time and effort organizing the people.
Orgs can grow that fast if they're grocery stores or something else the new
hires already pretty much understand, but I don't see that happening smoothly
in a pure research setting.
I
--- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob Mottram wrote:
On 11/02/2008, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But now, by contrast, if you are assuming (as Matt does, I believe) that
somehow a cluster of sub-intelligent specialists across the net will
gradually increase in
Charles D Hixson wrote:
Richard Loosemore wrote:
J Storrs Hall, PhD wrote:
On Friday 08 February 2008 10:16:43 am, Richard Loosemore wrote:
J Storrs Hall, PhD wrote:
Any system builders here care to give a guess as to how long it
will be
before
a robot, with your system as its controller,
It seems we have different ideas about what AGI is. It is not a product that
you can make and sell. It is a service that will evolve from the desire to
automate human labor, currently valued at $66 trillion per year.
I outlined a design in http://www.mattmahoney.net/agi.html
It consists of lots
For the immediate future I think we are going to be seeing robots
which are either directly programmed to perform tasks (expert systems
on wheels) or which are taught by direct human supervision.
In the human supervision scenario the robot is walked through a
series of steps which it has to
Personally I would rather shoot for a world where the ever present
nano-swarm saw that I wanted a cup of good coffee and effectively
created one out of thin air on the spot, cup and all. Assuming I still
took pleasure in such archaic practices and ways of changing my internal
state of course.
On 10/02/2008, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems we have different ideas about what AGI is. It is not a product that
you can make and sell. It is a service that will evolve from the desire to
automate human labor, currently valued at $66 trillion per year.
Yes. I think the best
--- Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt: I realize that a
full (Turing test) model can only be learned by having a full range of human
experiences in a human body.
Pray expand. I thought v. few here think that. Your definition seems to
imply AGI must inevitably be embodied. It
Matt: I realize that a
full (Turing test) model can only be learned by having a full range of human
experiences in a human body.
Pray expand. I thought v. few here think that. Your definition seems to
imply AGI must inevitably be embodied. It also implies an evolutionary
model of embodied AGI
Richard Loosemore wrote:
J Storrs Hall, PhD wrote:
On Friday 08 February 2008 10:16:43 am, Richard Loosemore wrote:
J Storrs Hall, PhD wrote:
Any system builders here care to give a guess as to how long it
will be
before
a robot, with your system as its controller, can walk into the
[ http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/biz/5524028.html ]
Steve Wozniak has given up on artificial intelligence.
What is intelligence? Apple's co-founder asked an audience of about 550
Thursday at the Houston area's first Up Experience conference in Stafford.
His answer? A robot that
J Storrs Hall, PhD wrote:
On Friday 08 February 2008 10:16:43 am, Richard Loosemore wrote:
J Storrs Hall, PhD wrote:
Any system builders here care to give a guess as to how long it will be
before
a robot, with your system as its controller, can walk into the average
suburban home, find the
On 08/02/2008, J Storrs Hall, PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any system builders here care to give a guess as to how long it will be before
a robot, with your system as its controller, can walk into the average
suburban home, find the kitchen, make coffee, and serve it?
Robots which can
--- J Storrs Hall, PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/biz/5524028.html ]
...
Any system builders here care to give a guess as to how long it will be
before
a robot, with your system as its controller, can walk into the average
suburban home, find
On Friday 08 February 2008 10:16:43 am, Richard Loosemore wrote:
J Storrs Hall, PhD wrote:
Any system builders here care to give a guess as to how long it will be
before
a robot, with your system as its controller, can walk into the average
suburban home, find the kitchen, make coffee,
J Storrs Hall, PhD wrote:
[ http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/biz/5524028.html ]
Steve Wozniak has given up on artificial intelligence.
What is intelligence? Apple's co-founder asked an audience of about 550
Thursday at the Houston area's first Up Experience conference in Stafford.
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