Compression can have many variants - encryption, encoding, storage
pre-processing, information distillation, extraction and assimilation,
lossily (sp?) and losslessly all in different levels and durations of
preservation. If an AGI is receiving data from 1000 video camera's running
full time it
Hi,
Adding some thoughts on AGI math - If the AGI or a sub processor of the AGI
is allotted time to sleep or idle process it could lazily postulate and
construct theorems with spare CPU cycles (cores are cheap nowadays), put
things together and use those theorems to further test the processing of
A baby AGI has immense advantage. It's starting (life?) after billions of
years of evolution and thousands of years of civilization. A 5 YO child
can't float all languages, all science, all mathematics, all recorded
history, all encyclopedia, etc. in sub-millisecond RAM and be able to
1. They will probably create more problems than they fix... as usual. But
they should be able to assist man with his issues. Kind of like machines
did.
2. You would have to imagine an ideal pure intelligence and bridge the gap
somewhat.
1.What are your AGI's going to do with their
From biological conception to old age the mind changes quite a bit already.
Consciousness, sense of self, free will - all illusions. Fear of death - if
the mind agent lost it perhaps it would choose to terminate unless something
else supported its intent to keep running
From: Matt
From: DEREK ZAHN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nothing particularly original here, but I think
it's kind of interesting.
Suppose that at some point, basically by accident,
the brains of our ancestors became capable of supporting
the evolution of memes.
Biological evolution started with a
All this talk about stupid thermometers... Some thermometers are smarter
than others. Why? When it comes to telling temperature they know what they
are talking about. Some have higher margins of error; they may be off by
1/2 degree F. Others are right on. But then put one in an environment
I've found that if I can do 16 to 24 hours on, and then sleep, and then
another 16 to 24 hours on as long as the body can keep up I can reach really
high thresholds of productivity with ephemeral visions of deep,
comprehensive insight. In the past I've done self-directed data compression
RD,
WKG is an application that takes spidering a few other common technologies
and ties them together. Nothing really revolutionary... this is the 3rd
prototype since 2000. The first was written in Visual Basic 6, the second
in Delphi in 2002, and this version is a combo of C# and C++. This
Is there a standard taxonomy of AGI that is referred to when talking about
different AGIs or near AGIs? Saying that a software is an AGI or not an AGI
is not descriptive enough. There are probably very few AGIs but many close
AGIs and then many, many AIs. Software programs are like the plant
Have to blurb on this as it irks me -
Even if you write a Hello World app it is a mathematical entity expressed
through a mathematical medium. Software layers from source to binary to OS
to drivers are a gradation from the mathematically abstract to the physical
world as is with painting an
I may be coming in from left field and haven't read a lot of these
discussions on defining intelligence, but defining intelligence verbally,
yes, it can have numerous descriptions and arguments. But I need something
concrete and measurable in the form of an equation. Is that too much to ask
for?
Intelligence - we're talking about storing and flipping bits -
minimalistically that's it. How many variables will it take to come
up with
an equation? 6? 7? Some of the variables are specific and some may
be
general. One may be a measurement of complexity, one a vector set
From: Richard Loosemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John G. Rose wrote:
Intelligence - we're talking about storing and flipping bits -
minimalistically that's it. How many variables will it take to come
up with
an equation? 6? 7? Some of the variables are specific and some may
Time, entropy, bits, What else?
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From: John G. Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:14 AM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: [agi] Intelligence vs Efficient Intelligence
Time has to included maybe?
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From
Time has to included maybe?
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From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:55 AM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: [agi] Intelligence vs Efficient Intelligence
--- John G. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you arrive at some sort
have a cognition engine it operates over time and it will have units.
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From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:48 AM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: [agi] Intelligence vs Efficient Intelligence
--- John G. Rose [EMAIL
Pretty good calculations :)
Some thoughts on the topic of units and equations, some may be obvious or
redundant -
If something was extremely intelligent it would have an exact copy, bit for
bit, of the whole universe in its head. Maybe that's saying that the
universe is 100% intelligent
bound thus places an upper limit on efficient
intelligence
according to current physics. This upper limit rules out wildly inefficient
AI
approaches such as AIXI.
-- Ben G
On 5/18/07, John G. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pretty good calculations :)
Some thoughts on the topic of units
I'm probably not answering your question but have been thinking more on all
this.
There's the usual thermodynamics stuff and relativistic physics that is
going on with intelligence and flipping bits within this universe, verses
the no-friction universe or Newtonian setup.
But what I've been
Oops heh I was eating French toast as I wrote this -
intelligence (or the application of) or even perhaps consciousness is the
real-time surfing of buttery effects
I meant butterfly effects.
John
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From: John G. Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 20
Well I'm going into conjecture area because my technical knowledge of some
of these disciplines is weak, but I'll keep going just for grins.
Take an example of an entity existing in a higher level of consciousness - a
Buddha who has achieved enlightenment. What is going on there? Verses and
ant
So the first AGI gets built and is running for a few months and absorbs
copies of all the bits on the internet. Then the AGI designer poses a
question to the AGI:
What is the definition of intelligence?
AGI: Listen pop, I'm just doing my job and minding my own business.
Designer: so.. you're
Different people have different ways of communicating. Many Murray posts
are sprinkled with annoyances but then they do have some intelligence and
wisdom. They remind me of a W. C. Fields like way of speaking with some
Snake Oil salesmanship. Actual Snake Oil BTW can be good for certain things
content. Thus, he has negligible content value for me.
On the other hand, since I tend not to freak -- he certainly does have
some humor values (and there but for the grace . . . )
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From: John G. Rose mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Different people have different
is also that these individuals truly believe that they
are at least as competent as most people in the field (if not better). I'd
classify Mike Tintner as a similar individual.
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From: John G. Rose mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here's Murray's book AI4U -
http
I like open source for a lot of things and have used quite a bit of it. A
problem with open source and AGI is that if the AGI is going to work there's
going to be some really cutting edge stuff with lots of elbow grease in
there that I'm not sure too many people want to expose. For a basic AGI
From: YKY (Yan King Yin) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maybe if the project is modular people will more likely work within
the project as they don't want to duplicate all the other modules.
Modular in terms of having a framework where modules can be switched out and
replaced. That way if
This list hits all the main points. There can be slight variations but most
all of the successful open source projects that I've utilized follow this
pattern. There are some projects that start with a donation of code from a
commercial codebase. Most projects tend to be modular. Some projects
It needs a Visual Studio 2005 Solution file in the source distro. Just
having that would offer much encouragement to would-be developers.
Does this thing actually talk to Novamente BTW? Though sockets? What's it
doing?
John
From: Benjamin Goertzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
But
Actually the book I'm reading now is AGI related - an old favorite, 1947
Coxeter's Regular Polytopes. Looking into KR as polytopes. Vertices,
edges, faces, hyperfaces, cells, hypercells... Perhaps (or yes) the work
done on polytopes can be used in KR or is being used somewhere ... polytopes
as
There are always the difficulties of creating AGI in software written by
people. Maybe it would be easier to create the application that writes the
AGI software. This is similar to a software that modifies its own source
code yet different where the generator is a separate entity not integrated
No seriously. A good mathematical model of AGI, say lowest common
denominator, created in category theory where all real AGI's are isomorphic
to it. Make it abstract and minimalistic as possible. In the generator you
have to include numerous mappings between math and source code so the thing
Even if YKY was to succeed in coming up with a new hybrid organizational
structure, which could likely happen as there are definitely opportunities
for innovation judging by existing structures, there still needs to be the
traditional open source project that everybody and his brother(or sister)
Certainly there are many ways to slay the beast. And the beast has many
definitions. For an open source AGI you'd have to not throw in the kitchen
sink, come up was a very basic design and maybe not tout how the thing is
going to trigger a singularity? Maybe not try to replicate human brain
From: Jey Kottalam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why would an AI need to talk to itself or 'sleep'? What function does
it serve? It's hard to understand your question without knowing the
assumptions behind your question.
I think sleep, hibernation and other types of dormancies are biological
The internet is changing rapidly again. AGIs taking input off of the
internet have to deal with text, audio, images, various symbologies e.g.
mathematics representations, music, different types of protocalled or
standardly formatted information e.g. autocad files, RFC'd communications,
XML markup
From: Pei Wang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
There was a previous discussion on this topic:
http://www.mail-archive.com/agi@v2.listbox.com/msg05028.html
This light touching on the topic doesn't really do it justice. The more you
think about sleep the more important it becomes depending on what
Video Analysis covering several functions including recognition of objects.
Seeing an object and identifying it immediately with an object in memory.
See a tree and identify it as a tree and then perhaps a pine tree and then
even the species depending on how much visual data is available; go right
Well yes, breezing over the details, there are many, and building the
software would be a full time effort for many months at least. I'm sure
there are some commercial products already built and they would be expensive
to license into an AGI application. It would be nice if the solution would
be
Self, POV, I - these may be more biological, evolutionary optimized,
physical things not required in an AGI. Picture two fused human brains
created in a lab 50 years from now by some mad scientist. What type of self
would this be? In AGI software self could be geographically distributed
For object recognition think of OCR. OCR is very good now. It's not AGI
it's, I dare to say, basically a mechanical operation. For general object
recognition the same type of speed and accuracy would fit the bill. Is
there a self needed for OCR?
For us yes a self is integral. If you are
Sounds like a finite state machine - actions, events, transitions, context,
states... Consciousness maybe is a hierarchical FSM. What happens if the
event queue overflows?
John
From: a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
What you see is dependent on your reaction.
How you react is dependent on
I agree though there may be some room for discussing AGI dealing with
politics as a complex system. How an AGI would interact politically with
groups of people. And AGI embedded in governmental computer systems.
And AGI running for office? Gosh. Let's kill it before it happens :)
John
From:
This is how I envision it when a text only AGI is fed its world view as
text only. The more text it processes the more a spatial physical system
would emerge internally assuming it is fed text that describes physical
things. Certain relational laws are common across text that describe and
reflect
With math if it is an analog or continuous equation I try to see it in my
head and it looks like a 3D or higher dimensional mixed liquid of different
color paints. A color may correspond to a variable in the equation or
mixtures of colors are intersecting Cartesian graphs. Fuzz is fuzz like
From: a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [agi] The Grounding of Maths
Mark Waser wrote:
You have shown me *ZERO* evidence that vision is required for
intelligence and blind from birth individuals provide virtually proof
positive that vision is not necessary for intelligence.
Vision could cover many things. Two eyeballs the size of planets that only
see neutrinos could constitute a vision system. Probes that see vibrations
or heat or chemicals are vision. RADAR, LADAR, SONAR, seismic,
electromagnetic, PET scan, salinity, ph, any type of particle, energy, space
From: Jiri Jelinek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [agi] Why roboticists have more fun
Just a quick note: Sex - that's a narrow AI, but Levy reportedly also
forecasts legalization of marriages with robots by 2050. That would
probably take AGI and I gues not just an AGI, but, in
From: J Storrs Hall, PhD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd be interested in everyone's take on the following:
1. What is the single biggest technical gap between current AI and AGI?
(e.g.
we need a way to do X or we just need more development of Y or we have
the
ideas, just need hardware,
I think that there really needs to be more very specifically defined
quantitative measures of intelligence. If there were questions that could be
asked of an AGI that would require x units of intelligence to solve
otherwise they would be unsolvable. I know that this is a hopeless foray on
this
From: J. Andrew Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AGI is poorly suited for venture capital in every case I can think
of. Ignoring everything else, it tends to leave the venture
constantly begging for capital which has serious consequences on
performance and reputation. It is a Catch-22,
From: Bob Mottram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [agi] More public awarenesss that AGI is coming fast
Despite these arguments there are good reasons for caution. When you
look at the history of AI research one thing tends to stand out - some
people never seem to learn of the
From: J. Andrew Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [agi] More public awarenesss that AGI is coming fast
Why does an AGI deliverable require more than 3-4 years? You better
have a good answer for that, or no one will fund you. Most people
*don't* have a good answer for that.
No you are not mundane. All these things on the list (or most) are very well
to be expected from a generally intelligent system or its derivatives. But I
have this urge, being a software developer, to smash all these things up
into their constituent components, partition commonalties, eliminate
Well I'm neck deep in 55,000 semi-colons of code in this AI app I'm building
and need to get this bastich out the do' and it's probably going to grow to
80,000 before version 1.0. But at some point it needs to grow a brain. Yes I
have my AGI design in mind since late 90's and had been watching
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebraic_structure
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automata
Start reading..
John
From: Edward W. Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John,
[A]bstract algebra based engine that's basically an algebraic structure
pump sounds really
Vladimir,
That may very well be the case and something that I'm unaware of. The system
I have in mind basically has I/O that is algebraic structures. Everything
that it deals with is modeled this way. Any sort of system that it analyzes
it converts to a particular structure that represents the
Hi Edward,
I don't see any problems dealing with either discrete or continuous. In fact
in some ways it'd be nice to eliminate discrete and just operate in
continuous mode. But discrete maps very well with binary computers.
Continuous is just a lot of discrete, the density depending on
Ben,
That is sort of a neat kind of device. Will have to think about that as it
is fairly dynamic I may have to look that one up and potentially experiment
on it.
The kinds of algebraic structures I'm talking about basically are as many as
possible. Also things like sets w/o operators,
Holy writhing Mandelbrot sets, Batman!
Why real and non-division? I particularly don't like real -- my computer
can't
handle the precision :-)
Robin - forget all this digital stuff it's a trap, we need some analog
nano-computers to help fight these crispy impostors!
John
-
This list
Yeah I'm not really agreeing with you here. I feel that, though I haven't
really studied other cognitive software structures, but I feel that they can
built simpler and more efficient. But I shouldn't come out saying that
unless I attack some of the details right? But that's a gut reaction I have
Vladimir,
I'm using system as kind of a general word for a set and operator(s).
You are understanding it correctly except templates is not right. The
templates are actually a vast internal complex of structure which includes
morphisms which are like templates.
But you are right it does
Very related to evolution, reproduction, survival, circadian, very lunar and
solar.
You're a protohuman, it's dark and cold at night, body is in reduction of
energy mode, the brain optimizes and increases the probability of survival -
where will you go tomorrow for highest probability of food,
From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think all of these boil down to a simple equation with just a few
variables. Anyone have it? It'd be nice if it included some sort of
computational complexity energy expression in it.
Yes. Intelligence is the expected reward in an
From: Jef Allbright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I recently found this paper to contain some thinking worthwhile to the
considerations in this thread.
http://lcsd05.cs.tamu.edu/papers/veldhuizen.pdf
This is an excellent paper not in only the subject of code reuse but also of
the techniques
From: Bryan Bishop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I already have some basics of merging OOP and Group/Category Theory.
Am working on some ideas on jamming, or I should say intertwining
automata in that. The complexity integration still trying to figure
out... trying to stay as far from
Here is a stimulating read available online about emergent meta-systems and
Holonomics...ties a lot of things together, very rich reading.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/10456/Reflexive-Autopoietic-Dissipative-Speical-Sy
stems-Theory-PalmerKD-2007vZ
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Bravo this is great. I like the part about Marx's labor theory of value. AGI
economics - isn't that a world that lends itself to making a compelling
financial pitch.
John
From: Edward W. Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Robin,
I am an evangelist for the fact that the time for
Yes this is true. Sometimes though I think that we need to build AGI weapons
ASAP. Why? The human race needs to protect itself from other potentially
aggressive beings. Humans treat animals pretty bad as an example. The earth
is a sitting duck. How do we defend ourselves? Clumsy nukes? Not good
From: Jef Allbright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 11/12/07, Benjamin Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I read it more as if it were a very highbrow sort of poetry ;-)
Same here. At first I was disappointed and irritated by the lack of
meaningful content (or was it all content, but
From: Jef Allbright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
No real argument there, but it reminds me STRONGLY of my experience as
a poetic genius about 30 years ago during one of three scientific
LSD trips. Brilliant, I tell you!
On a more practical note, intelligence is not so much about making
Yeah - because weak AI is so simple. Why not just make some
run-of-the-mill narrow AI with a single goal of Build AGI? You can
just relax while it does all the work.
I kind of like the idea of building software that then builds AGI. But you
could say that that software is part of the AGI
From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
What are the best current examples of (to any extent) self-building
software
?
So far, most of the effort has been concentrated on acquiring the
necessary
computing power. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_botnet
Just think of the
From: Benjamin Goertzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
State of the art is:
-- Just barely, researchers have recently gotten automated
program learning to synthesize an nlogn sorting algorithm based on the
goal
of sorting a large set of lists as rapidly as possible...
-- OTOH, automatic
From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John: I kind of like the idea of building software that then builds AGI.
What are the best current examples of (to any extent) self-building
software
?
Microsoft includes a facility in dot NET called Reflection that allows code
to inspect itself
From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
It amazes me that a crime of this scale can go on for a year and we are
powerless to stop it either through law enforcement or technology. The
Storm
botnet already controls enough computing power to simulate a neural
network
the size of several
From: Dennis Gorelik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John,
I kind of like the idea of building software that then builds AGI.
Sorry, but building AGI is less complex than building software that
is able to build AGI.
It totally depends on the design. When you write your narrow AI app you use
So far, they have not succeeded in killing it. An intelligent, self
improving
worm would be even harder to kill. Once every computer was infected, it
would
be impossible.
Well it's like who really owns your computers resources? There is so much
stuff going on there I don't think it is
My claim is that it's possible [and necessary] to split massive amount
of work that has to be done for AGI into smaller narrow AI chunks in
such a way that every narrow AI chunk has it's own business meaning
and can pay for itself.
You have not addressed my claim, which has massive
From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike: To be fair, ask this same question but replace women with any
other
'minority' and see if it's still a problem.
I think women are the majority, aren't they? Anyway, yes, women are
remarkably absent here. You will find them in fair
From: Bob Mottram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't think we yet know enough about how DNA works to be able to
call it a conglomerated mess, but you're probably right that the same
principle applies to any information system adapting over time.
Similarly the thinking of teenagers or young
From: Richard Loosemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can answer this for you, because I was once an anti-virus developer,
so I have seen the internal code of more viruses than I care to think
about.
The answer is NO. Malicious hackers are among the world's most stupid
programmers.
We
From: BillK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This discussion is a bit out of date. Nowadays no hackers (except for
script kiddies) are interested in wiping hard disks or damaging your
pc. Hackers want to *use* your pc and the data on it. Mostly the
general public don't even notice their pc is
From: Bob Mottram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
There have been a few attempts to use the internet for data collection
which might be used to build AIs, or for teaching chatbots such as
jabberwacky, but you're right that as yet nobody has really made use
of the internet as a basis for
in conjunction with a distributed web crawler.
Ed Porter
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From: John G. Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:27 PM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: Hacker intelligence level [WAS Re: [agi] Funding AGI
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From: Ed Porter
-Original Message-
From: John G. Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:31 PM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: Hacker intelligence level [WAS Re: [agi] Funding AGI
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Ed,
That is the http protocol, it is a client server request/response
From: Dennis Gorelik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John,
Is building the compiler more complex than building
any application it can build?
Note, that compiler doesn't build application.
Programmer does (using compiler as a tool).
Very true. So then, is the programmer + compiler more
1Kmsg/sec rate as the
client
to server upload you discribed?
Ed Porter
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From: John G. Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:40 PM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: Hacker intelligence level [WAS Re: [agi] Funding AGI
research]
OK
-
From: John G. Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 12:33 PM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: Hacker intelligence level [WAS Re: [agi] Funding AGI
research]
Hi Ed,
If the peer is not running other apps utilizing the network it could do
the
same. Typically
From: Dennis Gorelik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John,
Note, that compiler doesn't build application.
Programmer does (using compiler as a tool).
Very true. So then, is the programmer + compiler more complex that the
AGI
ever will be?
No.
I don't even see how it relates to what I
From: Dennis Gorelik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
There are programs that already write source code.
The trick is to write working and useful apps.
Many of the apps that write code basically take data and statically convert
it to a source code representation. So a code generator may allow you to
up
with pretty good word sense models.
Ed Porter
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From: John G. Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 2:55 PM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: Hacker intelligence level [WAS Re: [agi] Funding AGI
research]
Ed,
That is probably
From: Dennis Gorelik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John,
If you look at nanotechnology one of the goals is to build machines
that
build machines. Couldn't software based AGI be similar?
Eventually AGIs will be able to build other AGIs, but first AGI models
won't be able to build any
From: Richard Loosemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The reason it reminds me of this episode is that you are calmly talking
here about the high dimensional problem of seeking to understand the
meaning of text, which often involve multiple levels of implication,
which would normally be
From: Bryan Bishop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am not sure what the next step would be. The first step might be
enough for the moment. When you have the network functioning at all,
expose an API so that other programmers can come in and try to utilize
sentence analysis (and other functions)
From: Ed Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Once you build up good models for parsing and word sense, then you read
large amounts of text and start building up model of the realities
described
and generalizations from them.
Assuming this is a continuation of the discussion of an AGI-at-home
From: Richard Loosemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is easy for a research field to agree that certain problems are
really serious and unsolved.
A hundred years ago, the results of the Michelson-Morley experiments
were a big unsolved problem, and pretty serious for the foundations of
From: Richard Loosemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think this is a very important issue in AGI, which is why I felt
compelled to say something.
As you know, I keep trying to get meaningful debate to happen on the
subject of *methodology* in AGI. That is what my claims about the
complex
For some lucky cable folks the BW is getting ready to increase soon:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071130-docsis-3-0-possible-100mbps-sp
eeds-coming-to-some-comcast-users-in-2008.html
I'm yet to fully understand the limitations of a P2P based AGI design or the
augmentational ability of
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