Ben,
There is obvious confusion here. MOST mutations harm, but occasionally one
helps. By selecting for a particular difficult-to-achieve thing, like long
lifespan, we can discard the harmful mutations while selecting for the
helpful ones. However, selecting for something harmful and easy to
Bryan,
*I'm interested!*
Continuing...
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Bryan Bishop kanz...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Steve Richfield wrote:
Note my prior posting explaining my inability even to find a source of
used mice for kids to use in high-school anti-aging
Ben,
Genescient has NOT paralleled human mating habits that would predictably
shorten life. They have only started from a point well beyond anything
achievable in the human population, and gone on from there. Hence, while
their approach may find some interesting things, it is unlikely to find the
We have those fruit fly populations also, and analysis of their genetics
refutes your claim ;p ...
Where? References? The last I looked, all they had in addition to their
long-lived groups were uncontrolled control groups, and no groups bred only
from young flies.
Michael rose's UCI lab
Ben,
It seems COMPLETELY obvious (to me) that almost any mutation would shorten
lifespan, so we shouldn't expect to learn much from it. What particular
lifespan-shortening mutations are in the human genome wouldn't be expected
to be the same, or even the same as separated human populations. Hmmm,
Ben,
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Ben Goertzel b...@goertzel.org wrote:
I'm speaking there, on Ai applied to life extension; and participating in a
panel discussion on narrow vs. general AI...
Having some interest, expertise, and experience in both areas, I find it
hard to imagine much
I'm writing an article on the topic for H+ Magazine, which will appear in
the next couple weeks ... I'll post a link to it when it appears
I'm not advocating applying AI in the absence of new experiments of course.
I've been working closely with Genescient, applying AI tech to analyze the
Steve,
Capable and effective AI systems would be very helpful at every step of the
research process. Basic research is a major area I think that AGI will be
applied to. In fact, that's exactly where I plan to apply it first.
Dave
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Steve Richfield
Ben,
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Ben Goertzel b...@goertzel.org wrote:
I'm writing an article on the topic for H+ Magazine, which will appear in
the next couple weeks ... I'll post a link to it when it appears
I'm not advocating applying AI in the absence of new experiments of
course.
On 10 August 2010 16:44, Ben Goertzel b...@goertzel.org wrote:
I'm writing an article on the topic for H+ Magazine, which will appear in the
next couple weeks ... I'll post a link to it when it appears
I'm not advocating applying AI in the absence of new experiments of course.
I've been
The think the biggest thing to remember here is that general AI could be
applied to many different problems in parallel by many different people.
They would help with many aspects of the problem solving process, not just a
single one and certainly not just applied to a single experiment/study.
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Steve Richfield wrote:
Note my prior posting explaining my inability even to find a source of
used mice for kids to use in high-school anti-aging experiments, all while
university labs are now killing their vast numbers of such mice. So long as
things remain
On 10 August 2010 18:43, Bob Mottram fuzz...@gmail.com wrote:
here. For example, if an epidemic breaks out, why should you
vaccinate first?
That should have been who rather than why :-)
Just thinking a little further, in hand waving mode, If something like
the common cold were added as a
I should dredge up and forward past threads with them. There are some flaws
in their chain of reasoning, so that it won't be all that simple to sort the
few relevant from the many irrelevant mutations. There is both a huge amount
of noise, and irrelevant adaptations to their environment and
Bob, their are serious issues with such a suggestion.
The biggest issue, is that there is a good chance it wouldn't work because
diseases, including the common cold, have incubation times. So, you may not
have any symptoms at all, yet you can pass it on to other people.
And even if we did know
I've decided to go. I was wondering if anyone else here is.
Dave
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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:01 PM, David Jones davidher...@gmail.com wrote:
I've decided to go. I was wondering if anyone else here is.
Dave
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