[gentoo-user] Nut and networked UPS config

2013-12-13 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello all, I have a network accessible UPS (Powerware 9150 with the network option installed), so am looking for tips on how to properly configure a gentoo VM running on ESXi to initiate a safe shutdown during an extended power outage via this network card. Looks like nut has full support

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS kernel bug

2013-12-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-08 6:20 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: We can find all relevant commits IDs by searching for the commit message in the last release of each branch; then we just enumerate all tags, which gives us the versions where the commit is present. that's easy for you to say... er,

SOLVED - Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-03 8:19 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Current command I'll be using: rsync -avHP --numeric-ids /mnt/gentoo/oldusr/ /mnt/gentoo/usr/ Well, that was about as uneventful as it gets... Took all of 6 minutes (and almost all of that was rsyncing /usr)... Made a forum

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS kernel bug

2013-12-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-26 6:19 PM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote: Just a note to other NFS server users - There's a kernel bug that can cause unmounting an NFS share to segfault (and not actually unmount anything.) I had in in the kernel 3.10 version, perhaps even before that as I don't update the

Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-04 8:07 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Wednesday 04 Dec 2013 07:28:18 Tanstaafl wrote: I've never used the -x option with cp... what exactly is meant by 'stay on same filesystem’?Should Stay on same filesystem is for the case in which you have another partition

Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-06 8:13 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: There are reasons why rsync is better than cp. The best one IMO is that rysnc will not copy a corrupt file, while cp will. And rsync will tell you about the corrupt file. Interesting and a good reason to use rsync over

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable

2013-12-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-04 5:44 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 16:43:54 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Do I need to re-run layman now to point it to the new repo locations? You need to edit /etc/layman/layman.cfg to change the storage setting. Thanks Neil... I actually did

Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-03 8:19 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Current command I'll be using: rsync -avHP --numeric-ids /mnt/gentoo/oldusr/ /mnt/gentoo/usr/ I had initially been planning on just using cp, trying now to remember why I decided on using rsync - I think it was someone here

[gentoo-user] Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable

2013-12-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-02 4:21 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-10-02 2:24 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Ok, thanks much guys... guess I'll go with Alans layout as it makes the most sense to me: /var/portage /var/distfiles /var/packages Actually, I think I like

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable

2013-12-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-04 10:05 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I've now copied and rearranged /usr/portage, so that I have the above, and I also copied /usr/local/portage to /var/portage/local. And just ran eix-update for the first time since moving portage, and got a couple of strange

Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications

2013-12-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-04 8:50 AM, Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: If you have a sane mail-reader, all you have to do is click on Reply-to-all and it will interpret the list headers correctly to send the reply only to the list. There may even be a Reply to List button. No, a sane mail

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Pasting plain text into Calc changes row height and undo doesn't revert

2013-12-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-04 10:04 AM, Ian Whitfield whitfi...@telkomsa.net wrote: BTW - I think you mean auto-adjust the WIDTH of the Column. If not it works just fine for me. It works for both, and has done so for as long as I can remember... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications

2013-12-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-04 9:10 AM, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote: But equally a sane mailing list would default to reply to the list. If the default is to reply to the sender, you are implicitly saying: 1. We really don't want to have discussions here; 2. If you do get an answer we can't see

Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-02 8:02 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 06:24:43 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: You have got the disk space, so if you have a backup its reversible so don't be a wimp :) It's reversible even if there is no backup, because data it copied from /usr

Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-02 5:24 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: You are looking far too deep just rsync -avP to /newusr But this would not copy the hardlinks... and there are a bunch on /usr, so... reboot to livecd rsync again with --delete to update ... takes a only few seconds

[gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-02 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, This was discussed within a couple of threads in the last few months, but I wanted to ask for final clarification before I go ahead with this (yeah, I know, 'paranoia will destroy ya')... I'm not afraid of an initramfs any more, but I've decided that I still just really don't want

Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-02 11:26 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Mon, Dec 02 2013, tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: So, here's the plan, please check me... 1. Boot off of the latest gentoo LiveDVD 2. Mount / and create new /usr directory I am missing something. I would have thought

Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-02 1:47 PM, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org wrote: on 12/02/2013 04:02 PM Tanstaafl wrote the following: So, here's the plan, please check me... 1. Boot off of the latest gentoo LiveDVD If you boot a different system to do the rsync, or, if you do it over ssh, add the option

Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-02 Thread Tanstaafl
in -o ro mode might not be a terrible idea in that case. snip Not comfortable doing that on a productions server at all... but thanks anyway... :) That said, if you are booting to a LiveDVD -- On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Thanks, but no, like I

Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-12-02 2:41 PM, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org wrote: on 12/02/2013 08:58 PM Tanstaafl wrote the following: On 2013-12-02 1:47 PM, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org wrote: on 12/02/2013 04:02 PM Tanstaafl wrote the following: So, here's the plan, please check me... 1. Boot off

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-20 Thread Tanstaafl
(Sorry for replying to an older thread, I'm going back through older unread mails) Maybe these should be made an official part of mailman's extra tools? And maybe updated to work with MM3? On 2013-11-05 2:46 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmouse-mail...@fmp.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 13:14 -0600,

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-20 10:08 AM, Lindsay Haisley fmouse-mail...@fmp.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 14:01 +0100, Roel Wagenaar wrote: And maybe you could stop TOP-posting? In my humble opinion, any post that's less that a visual page in length is more conveniently read if it's top-posted, especially

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Apache OO on same distro as LO - for alternate use

2013-11-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-18 6:08 PM, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I've found that AOOo 4.x takes over*all* mime associations for opendoc's. It's not too much of a problem re-associating the documents via Nautilus or Nemo, but it totally screws up other applications like Firefox SeaMonkey. I've even tried

Re: [gentoo-user] Tell cron to send email using sender:passwd@host:587 syntax?

2013-11-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-16 3:25 PM, Manuel McLure man...@mclure.org wrote: Why did the gentoo devs decide to build an smtp client into it capable of doing TLS, instead of simply requiring an MTA to be able to email emerge logs? They didn't. The smtp client is part of Python, not part of portage. If you're

Re: [gentoo-user] Tell cron to send email using sender:passwd@host:587 syntax?

2013-11-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-17 6:42 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I missed the significance of Alans reference to python earlier... Sorry, that was Neil's reference...

Re: [gentoo-user] My first initramfs

2013-11-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-12 4:55 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Depending on your system, you might want to add one or more of the following options: Option Description --disklabel Add support for LABEL= settings in your /etc/fstab --dmraid Add support for fake hardware RAID

Re: [gentoo-user] My first initramfs

2013-11-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-12 5:50 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: You*MUST* add the necessary modules/tools to mount root and/or /usr. So if you have an XFS partition on a LVM volume on top of an mdraid, and the partition is encrypted, then you need the kernel modules for xfs, lvm, mdraid and

Re: [gentoo-user] My first initramfs

2013-11-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-17 7:57 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: First question: I don't see reference to reiserfs there anywhere, Or XFS for that matter...

Re: [gentoo-user] My first initramfs

2013-11-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-17 8:39 AM, thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote: you only need lvm if root/usr is on lvm. root is on a normal partition, /usr is on a separate lvm partition. do you have kernel modules that are not compiled into the kernel in order to mount root ? Ummm... I think I was

Re: [gentoo-user] USE ruby_targets_ruby20

2013-11-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-15 5:18 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/11/2013 23:58, Tanstaafl wrote: Now, the question is, what the heck is thin-provisioning in lvm2, am I using it, and if not, do I need it? I'm pretty sure I'm not using it, but how to be sure? Google for thin

[gentoo-user] Thin provisioning with LVM

2013-11-16 Thread Tanstaafl
Just wanted to start a new thread about this... Would appreciate any responses from anyone using this... Why did you choose it? What has your experience been? Any problems? If so, how did you overcome them? If you had to do it all over again, would you still use it? If so, would you do

[gentoo-user] Tell cron to send email using sender:passwd@host:587 syntax?

2013-11-16 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all... I'm a little confused by something... If I change the MAILURI in make.conf from the default, ie: #PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI=root /usr/sbin/sendmail PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI=recipi...@example.com sender:pas...@smtp.example.com:100587 I'm guessing portage still uses /usr/sbin/sendmail, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Tell cron to send email using sender:passwd@host:587 syntax?

2013-11-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-16 9:05 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hi all... I'm a little confused by something... If I change the MAILURI in make.conf from the default, ie: #PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI=root /usr/sbin/sendmail PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI=recipi...@example.com sender:pas...@smtp.example.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Tell cron to send email using sender:passwd@host:587 syntax?

2013-11-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-16 9:56 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: So it uses SMTP by default, Python has standard libraries that make this simple, and only uses sendmail when you explicitly instruct it to do so. Ok... so... the question remains - can I tell cron to send mail the same way?

Re: [gentoo-user] Tell cron to send email using sender:passwd@host:587 syntax?

2013-11-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-16 10:04 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 09:59:09 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-11-16 9:56 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: So it uses SMTP by default, Python has standard libraries that make this simple, and only uses sendmail when you

Re: [gentoo-user] Tell cron to send email using sender:passwd@host:587 syntax?

2013-11-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-16 12:32 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: sendmail sends mail. And apparently so does portage... So, anyone care to venture a guess as to why the gentoo devs decided to implement their own smtp server just so portage could send emails all by itself, rather than

Re: [gentoo-user] Tell cron to send email using sender:passwd@host:587 syntax?

2013-11-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-16 2:29 PM, Benjamin Lee b...@b1c1l1.com wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 09:05:52 -0500, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: [...] I think all I need to do is figure out how to tell cron to send emails the same way as portage using sender:pas...@smtp.example.com:587 (using TLS

Re: [gentoo-user] USE ruby_targets_ruby20

2013-11-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-15 5:56 AM, Daniel Pielmeier bil...@gentoo.org wrote: The new ebuild thin-provisioning-tools-0.2.8-r1 reflects this. So if you update to this version and don't use FEATURES=test it should not pull in ruby anymore. I don't have FEATURES=test and it still wants to pull all the ruby

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing mailuri for emailing emerge logs - AUTH version fails

2013-11-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-14 3:32 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/11/2013 18:16, Tanstaafl wrote: I had changed the password to something simple for testing, and now, after changing it back to my strong password, it fails with: invalid SMTP AUTH configuration, trying unauthenticated

Re: [gentoo-user] USE ruby_targets_ruby20

2013-11-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-15 5:56 AM, Daniel Pielmeier bil...@gentoo.org wrote: 2013/11/15 Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com mailto:adamcart...@gmail.com Not an answer to your question, but yesterday ruby got pulled in by an update to thin-provisioning-tools, which was required by lvm2. It looks like

Re: [gentoo-user] USE ruby_targets_ruby20

2013-11-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-15 3:01 PM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: Follow these steps: 0. undo whatever you did Already did... 1. emerge --sync 2. echo =sys-block/thin-provisioning-tools-0.2.8-r1 ~amd64 /etc/portage/package.keywords 3. update your system Or, I could just echo

[gentoo-user] Changing mailuri for emailing emerge logs - AUTH version fails

2013-11-14 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, I'm trying to change one of my systems from sending without AUTH (works), to using AUTH (fails), going by the example in /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example... With this hosts IP in mynetworks (I use postfix), this works: PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI=m...@example.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing mailuri for emailing emerge logs - AUTH version fails

2013-11-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-14 9:33 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to change one of my systems from sending without AUTH (works), to using AUTH (fails), going by the example in /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example... With this hosts IP in mynetworks (I use postfix

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing mailuri for emailing emerge logs - AUTH version fails

2013-11-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-14 10:28 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Nevermind, removed the smtp.example.com entry that wasn't supposed to be there... Now to get SASL_AUTH working... Ok, imnsho, the comments in /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example are not sufficiently explicit

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing mailuri for emailing emerge logs - AUTH version fails

2013-11-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-14 10:55 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I had been trying user:sec...@mail.some.domain:587, and it kept failing as if it wasn't using STARTTLS... then I started down a rabbit hole of trying to configure postfix's sasl client, then decided that was way overkill for what

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing mailuri for emailing emerge logs - AUTH version fails

2013-11-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-14 3:30 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: You used the words it is unclear. I think you are being way too kind. Heh... I know, I was like, wtf??? Why in Zeus' name wouldn't they just specify the actual port like every other software I've ever used does. I guess

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging users: initial results of the survey

2013-11-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-14 5:56 AM, Philipp Weissenbacher p.weissenbac...@gmail.com wrote: Freedesktop.org Bugzilla log-in page https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ (click Log in top right hand corner) - click Search - Select LibreOffice in the Product drop down and search you heart out. OR Use the Search field

[gentoo-user] My first initramfs

2013-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
Ok, looking into this now... Reading the referenced wiki page shows this comment: Introduction and bootloader configuration To create an initramfs, it is important that you know what additional drivers, scripts and tools you need to boot your system. For instance, if you use LVM, then you

Re: [gentoo-user] My first initramfs

2013-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-12 4:49 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Ok, looking into this now... Reading the referenced wiki page shows this comment: Introduction and bootloader configuration To create an initramfs, it is important that you know what additional drivers, scripts and tools you

[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging users: initial results of the survey

2013-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
CC'ing the website list because it is about the website, but I'm not subscribed, so please CC me on replies if you really want to discuss this complaint. On 2013-11-12 5:53 AM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com wrote: The problem of course is that there is no queue of bugs-to-fix. We

[libreoffice-website] Bug/Enhancement request - Document Compatibility Submission Page/Service - WAS: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging users: initial results of the survey

2013-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-12 8:53 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: How do I just log into the bug reporting system and search it? Anyone? Ok, so I just decided to go ahead and go through the submission process, and afterwards was finally able to search. I didn't find any similar bugs, so I

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging users: initial results of the survey

2013-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-12 9:53 AM, Philipp Weissenbacher p.weissenbac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tanstaafl, LibreOffice is using freedesktop.org infrastructure for bug management software and code repository. Ok, this doesn't help me any, but ok... ;) How do I just log into the bug reporting system

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging users: initial results of the survey

2013-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
CC'ing the website list because it is about the website, but I'm not subscribed, so please CC me on replies if you really want to discuss this complaint. On 2013-11-12 5:53 AM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com wrote: The problem of course is that there is no queue of bugs-to-fix. We

Bug/Enhancement request - Document Compatibility Submission Page/Service - WAS: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging users: initial results of the survey

2013-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-12 8:53 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: How do I just log into the bug reporting system and search it? Anyone? Ok, so I just decided to go ahead and go through the submission process, and afterwards was finally able to search. I didn't find any similar bugs, so I

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging users: initial results of the survey

2013-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-12 9:53 AM, Philipp Weissenbacher p.weissenbac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tanstaafl, LibreOffice is using freedesktop.org infrastructure for bug management software and code repository. Ok, this doesn't help me any, but ok... ;) How do I just log into the bug reporting system

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 64 bit

2013-11-11 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-11 7:40 AM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: Marcello Romani wrote And all that just to have a 64bit binary that would only give more work and no immediate benefit... After this reply I hope anyone whining about Windows users being let down because there's no 64 bit version of

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: USB Scanner Problems with Newer Kernels/Libusb

2013-11-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-09 6:10 PM, Barry Schwartz chemoelect...@chemoelectric.org wrote: (I have run into trouble, though, due to systemd being in the 32-bit compatibility binaries and installing pkg-config files. I suppose I could just have emerge remove those files via a Portage hook.) Isn't this what

Re: [libreoffice-users] paste special problem

2013-11-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-10 6:53 AM, yahoo-pier_andreit pier_andr...@yahoo.it wrote: on my opensuse 12.3 and libreoffice Version 4.0:build-305 and also with Version: 4.1.1.2 paste special doesn't works any more. if I select a group of cells with formulas, move in another position and I perform paste special,

Re: [libreoffice-users] paste special problem

2013-11-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-10 1:26 PM, yahoo-pier_andreit pier_andr...@yahoo.it wrote: On 11/10/2013 06:00 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: I have been having serious problems with 'Paste Special' working, then not working, then working again, on many different spreadsheets (most if not all created a long time ago, some

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 64 bit

2013-11-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-08 5:28 PM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: I know and I agree, Miguel. I just don't agree with the logic don't ask for a 64bit version because it's very time consuming and expensive and you don't need it anyway. Why do Linux and Mac people need it more than Windows people? They

Re: [libreoffice-users] 64 bit

2013-11-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-08 11:50 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: The worse OS I have ever used was a 64-bit XP that was used in an office for number crunching on a dual core 64-bit Intel processor. It was much worse than ME or Vista. Well, to be fair, 64bit XP was ALWAYS

Re: [libreoffice-users] 64 bit

2013-11-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-05 5:27 PM, jonathon toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/05/2013 11:26 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Why do you think you need a 64bit version? Because one is running a 64 bit operating system. Then you don't understand how these things work... Pretty much all 64bit Operating Systems

Re: [libreoffice-users] 64 bit

2013-11-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-04 6:09 PM, josip prusina josip.prusina.croa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. From where download 64 bit version libreoffice for windows 8.1. 64 bit. ? Link or manual tutorial for download 64 bit version.. Why do you think you need a 64bit version? Do you have any documents that are larger

Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options

2013-11-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-04 4:30 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 11/04/2013 03:47 PM, baldwin linguas wrote: You know, this has been bothering me for a while, but I've never brought it up: Why are our color options (for font color, highlight, table background, etc.) so limited? I confess, I know

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Document Alphabetical Index [Not including all sub-documents]

2013-11-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-05 7:47 AM, Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org wrote: Still having the same issue on: Version: 4.1.1.2 Build ID: 410m0(Build:2) Why would you post a reply about a 6 month old version as 'still having the same issue...'? Why not try on the latest shipping version

[gentoo-user] GCC upgrade 4.6.3 to 4.7.3 - any gotchas?

2013-10-27 Thread Tanstaafl
Just asking ahead of time... Any major gotchas with respect to this GCC upgrade? Does this one introduce any ABI changes that require rebuilding the entire toolchain... or even world? Thanks

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel ricing

2013-10-24 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-24 1:03 PM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: I'm not positive of it's architecture, but for 20 months I had a Samsung Galaxy S running Android. This was by far the biggest POS I ever owned. From the first week it spontaneously rebooted, hung, and the performance was

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel ricing

2013-10-24 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-24 1:51 PM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 01:36:37PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Just because you got a phone that was bad, and didn't bother to get it replaced, doesn't make all Galaxy S4 phones as bad as yours. Hey, dipstick! Apparently

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks)

2013-10-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-22 6:47 AM, S o H o N Y C soho...@icloud.com wrote: my copy of LibreOffice 4.1.2 keeps crashing as soon as I start editing a text document. It keeps asking for Java Runtime SE 6.0 even though it is installed already. What platform? What version of java (32bit or 64bit)

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-20 9:14 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: Linus isnt actually actively developing the kernel nowadays. Mostly he just merges commits from his trusted lieutenants in charge of various subsystems. The notion of Linus as being at the helm is mostly just a convenient fiction

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-21 6:11 AM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt he actually has the time to read every line of code submitted to the kernel, That isn't what I meant at all... What he *does* have the power to do, though, is if someone was able to sneak in something outrageously bad

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-21 6:48 AM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: Again. This power is overstated and overtrusted. As for rip it out at its roots he has no ability to do that, only refuse to merge it in his tree. Which I believe is a much bigger deal than you seem to think. But that's only

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-21 7:10 AM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: Read the management style doc. Seriously, it describes the kernel's outlook on mistakes. My main point wasn't about 'mistakes' and you know it, so please stop being so obtuse. Ostracization and talk of severing limbs like

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-20 9:02 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 20/10/13 13:47, Daniel Campbell wrote: Like I mentioned in a prior e-mail, the change didn't affect me when it was pushed, and doesn't affect me now. I did recently have to reinstall Gentoo, however (note, going from testing

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-20 6:52 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote: So they spend a lot of money hiring developers. The more important question is what is their agenda? What do they tell those developers to *make*? You don't hire people without a business plan in mind. Well, once I understood

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore

2013-10-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-17 10:30 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: I apologize. That is arguably a two factor system. When you said ssh key and password, I jumped to delusions, assuming that it was a standard ssh connection with the option of either key or password. Side question... So,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore

2013-10-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-18 7:19 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/10/2013 12:23, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-10-17 10:30 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: I apologize. That is arguably a two factor system. When you said ssh key and password, I jumped to delusions, assuming

Re: [libreoffice-users] Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

2013-10-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-14 8:07 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: But it seems that I may need to see if there is a newer Windows Installer package or some other fix. BUT, MS's web site really does not let you find what you really need for XP systems easily.

OT - RAM disks - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-13 5:49 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Talk about putting some stuff on tmpfs. O_O I have always wanted to copy the tree to tmpfs and run time emerge -uvaDN world. Just to see how fast it will go. lol I remember once I worked for an Apple reseller that had this accounting

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore

2013-10-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-13 4:07 PM, Martin Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: Like passwords, these sequences should better not stay the same for too long... Forced changing of passwords (and I imagine the same can be said for port-knocking sequences, which I've never implemented, but am

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore

2013-10-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-14 2:52 PM, Martin Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Like passwords, these sequences should better not stay the same for too long... Forced changing of passwords I agreee: To do this to protect *other* users will not work

Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking info

2013-10-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-14 8:04 AM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: M. Osama Alghwell wrote: Greetings. I am using Open office since long time and since Libreoffice is published I moved to Libreoffice, in my own laptop and at my work. I am a CIO in a company and lately we are about to install zero

Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking info

2013-10-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-12 1:44 PM, M. Osama Alghwell malghw...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings. I am using Open office since long time and since Libreoffice is published I moved to Libreoffice, in my own laptop and at my work. I am a CIO in a company and lately we are about to install zero clients in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-29 2:55 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: I am the OpenRC author/maintainer and a member of base-system. I can tell you that we are not discussing forcing systemd on everyone in Gentoo Linux as a default init system. I can also tell you that I am not aware of the Gentoo

[libreoffice-users] Why??? 'Unkown source' when copy/pasting numbers SAME SHEET SAME WORKBOOK

2013-10-06 Thread Tanstaafl
This is really starting to infuriate me... Why, when working in an .ods spreadsheet, if I copy a number from a cell, and go to pastespecial it into another cell, does it often (not every time, still can't pin it down) sometimes come up with the only op[tion as 'Unformatted text' from 'Unknown

Re: [libreoffice-users] Why? 'Unknown source' when copy/pasting numbers SAME SHEET SAME WORKBOOK

2013-10-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-06 1:55 PM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: At 13:04 06/10/2013 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: This is really starting to infuriate me... Why, when working in an .ods spreadsheet, if I copy a number from a cell, and go to pastespecial it into another cell, does it often

Re: [libreoffice-users] Why??? 'Unkown source' when copy/pasting numbers SAME SHEET SAME WORKBOOK

2013-10-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-06 3:30 PM, Mark Bourne libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: This is really starting to infuriate me... Why, when working in an .ods spreadsheet, if I copy a number from a cell, and go to pastespecial it into another cell, does it often (not every time

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-03 12:10 PM, jo...@antarean.org jo...@antarean.org wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:23:22 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: I hate getting older. lol It's a lot better than the alternative... What is wrong with getting younger? pedantThat's an

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-01 2:48 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:15:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch installation. Why? While I'm not sure why it matters to you, it is because I have a policy that I never

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-01 7:41 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: /var makes sense to me, it's where I put the tree (but not packages or distfiles). Why not these?

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-02 8:28 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I looks like I was wrong all along. I thought I was wrong once, but then discovered that I was mistaken... ;) You should still move portage to var though. Consider it a local fix to a long-standing bug. I'm still

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-02 11:31 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: Because they have no place in the portage tree. The portage tree contains thousands of small files, but remains largely the same size. On the other hand $DISTDIR and $PKGDIR contain files that are not controlled by portage and grow

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-02 2:24 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Ok, thanks much guys... guess I'll go with Alans layout as it makes the most sense to me: /var/portage /var/distfiles /var/packages Actually, I think I like: /var/portage/tree /var/portage/distfiles /var/portage/packages

PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-30 3:14 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 30/09/2013 19:25, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Alan wrote: Charles wrote: But... is /usr/portage the default/recommended location? If so, then I don't think I want to move it - I generally never change defaults unless

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-01 8:46 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I know that it is probably trivial, but I like to read official docs for things like this... It is trivial. All that it is, is a path to where some stuff is. That's all, nothing more. Ok, thanks... but (call me anal,

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-01 10:14 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 10/01/2013 08:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: So... if the change from /usr/portage to /var/portage was official, is there any (official) documentation on precisely how to move it? Hmmm more importantly, when did this change

Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-30 1:45 PM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: Occasionally on this list, someone asks about open source email calendar that can be used with LibreOffice. Here are instructions for using Google Calendar with Thunderbird. You can use the Thunderbird Add-Ons manager to install

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-30 1:10 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: 150gb for / with usr and you will be fine for ages. I'm curious what a common/average size is for desktops... My /usr, without portage files, is @ 5GB. My current / is only 83M, so even after I merge /usr into it,

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-28 8:30 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: This does not mean that on November 1 your system will not be able to boot. Its simply means that beginning November 1, Gentoo devs are not required to jump through hoops to make apps work on systems with /usr separate from

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-28 9:15 AM, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote: Am 28.09.2013 13:32, schrieb Tanstaafl: On 2013-09-27 7:10 PM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: No really,*why exactly*? Because that was the RECOMMENDED WAY IN THE GENTOO HANDBOOK when I first set this system up many

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