[apple-crop] non-GMO non-browning apples

2015-03-30 Thread David Doud
If anyone has a need for an apple that doesn't brown, I'd be happy to send a 
stick or three of 'Sweet Emma', a chance seedling from grandfathers farm - 
white flesh that doesn't ever even hint of turning brown even while it dries to 
a crisp - a little flattened, red, 2.75, ripe early Oct, mild sweet crisp like 
a RD would dream of being -  vigorous tree, early blooming, very scab 
susceptible, doesn't fill bins like Melrose or Mutsu, loses quality in six 
weeks (would probably respond well to 'Smart-Fresh') - I sell quite a few 
between Oct 5 and Thanksgiving - 

No charge - no obligation - 
David Doud


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Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

2015-03-30 Thread Craig Tanner
GMO apples may contaminate nearby organic and conventional apple orchards
and could potentially cause valuable export markets to reject U.S. apples as
happened in past when wheat and rice crops were found to be contaminated by
GMOs. A - See more at:
http://www.foe.org/projects/food-and-technology/genetic-engineering/no-gmo-a
pples#sthash.FRll2V3z.dpuf
 
what?  how?  this statement makes my head spin
 
Craig Tanner
Tanners Orchard, Ltd.
Speer, IL
309-493-5442
309-493-5741 fax
306-360-5610 cell
 

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From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net
[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of David Doud
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 11:28 AM
To: Apple-Crop
Subject: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -


Sorry to beat this, but I think it's in our interest to stay informed - if
the powers that be want me to give it a rest, I will - 

I copy and paste an email that went out to subscribers to Well.org - it was
forwarded to me - I am unfamiliar with this organization and a peek at their
website doesn't impress and the website itself doesn't have any content
about Arctic Apples -

I've been made aware of at least one other organization promoting
anti-Arctic Apple sentiment -
http://www.foe.org/projects/food-and-technology/genetic-engineering/no-gmo-a
pples 

I investigated the claim that McDonald's and Gerber... and it's not as
presented - they have 'no plans' because there is no product available to
buy, but they have not rejected and Gerber specifically admits and defends
using GMO products - 

Looks like battle lines are being drawn and strategies arctic-ulated - 

David Doud
peach leaf curl spray this week - 
2012 on this date was apple full bloom - not at silver tip yet this year,
but soon - 





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On Friday the 13th, the USDA approved the unnecessary, unlabeled, and poorly
tested GMO apple. It was an unlucky day indeed for the apple growers, food
companies, and people like us who want to protect our families from GMO
foods.

But it's not all bad news. Thanks to pressure from thousands of people like
you, McDonald's and Gerber -- two of the biggest purchasers of apples --
have already confirmed that they have no plans to sell GMO apples. Their
commitments will help keep this risky product off the market.

Now, we need to get other fast food companies to join them. If we can get
the top 10 fast food companies, including Burger King, Wendy's, Subway and
Dunkin' Donuts, to commit to not sell the GMO apple, we may be able to
prevent it from ending up on our plates!

 http://vitaloriginswellorgllc.cmail2.com/t/t-l-thbijk-illrihdyd-t/ Tell
these fast food restaurants to say NO to GMO apples!

The apple in question - known as the Arctic AppleR -- was designed for
purely cosmetic purposes. It was genetically engineered to not turn brown
when cut. Of course, browning in apples can be prevented naturally by
applying lemon juice or another source of vitamin C -- making this risky
apple completely unnecessary.

What's more, without natural browning, apples may look fresh when they are
actually decaying. In fact, scientists believe apples' natural browning
enzyme may help fight diseases and pests.

In other words, if farmers grow these new apples, they may have to increase
their pesticide use. And since they won't be labeled, we won't even know if
the apples we're buying are pesticide-doused GMOs!

The evidence is clear: this experiment is all risk, no reward.  Fast food
restaurants have no excuse -- they must say NO to GMO apples!

 http://vitaloriginswellorgllc.cmail2.com/t/t-l-thbijk-illrihdyd-i/ Tell
fast food companies that their customers don't want GMO apples!

Like other GMOs, this apple won't be labeled and didn't undergo independent
safety testing -- the USDA relied on the company's own assessment that it is
safe for human consumption. Worse yet, this GMO apple was genetically
engineered via a new, virtually untested experimental technique called RNA
interference -- which many scientists are concerned may have unintended
negative impacts on human health and the environment.

So who stands to benefit from the GMO apple? Not consumers. Definitely not
apple growers, who have been opposing this apple all along. The only
benefits will go to Okanagan Specialty Fruit -- the biotech company that
produces the Arctic AppleR.

Now that the USDA has approved the apple, it could end up in everything from
school lunches to fast food, kids' meals and grocery produce aisles. The
risks to our health, our environment and apple farmers across the U.S. could
be enormous.

Fast food restaurants are increasingly trying to provide healthier options
and are among the biggest 

Re: [apple-crop] non-GMO non-browning apples

2015-03-30 Thread Serge Mantha
See that one...Eden!


http://cyberfruit.info/apple/SJCA38R6A74description.asp


Serge Mantha


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Objet : [apple-crop] non-GMO non-browning apples

If anyone has a need for an apple that doesn't brown, I'd be happy to send a
stick or three of 'Sweet Emma', a chance seedling from grandfathers farm -
white flesh that doesn't ever even hint of turning brown even while it dries
to a crisp - a little flattened, red, 2.75, ripe early Oct, mild sweet
crisp like a RD would dream of being -  vigorous tree, early blooming, very
scab susceptible, doesn't fill bins like Melrose or Mutsu, loses quality in
six weeks (would probably respond well to 'Smart-Fresh') - I sell quite a
few between Oct 5 and Thanksgiving - 

No charge - no obligation - 
David Doud


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Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

2015-03-30 Thread maurice tougas
Not to fear, 3D printers will be producing all we need in short order!

Mo Tougas

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 5:52 PM, dmnor...@royaloakfarmorchard.com wrote:

  I jsut read the last data from Facebook that indicates they have over
 1.3 billion users!  When I see the erroneous information that gets posted
 to the news feed on Facebook about GMO's, Monsanto and the Arctic apple,
 and the number of people that believe this stuff.it scares me to think
 what the future of growers and farmers is going to become!!

 Dennis Norton
 IPM Specialist/Certified Nurseryman/IT Specialist
 Royal Oak Farm Orchard
 15908 Hebron Rd.
 Harvard, IL 60033-9357
 Office (815) 648-4467
 Mobile (815) 228-2174
 Fax (609) 228-2174
 http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
 http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.blogspot.com
 https://www.facebook.com/royaloakfarmorchard/

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Craig Tanner cr...@tannersorchard.com
 *To:* 'Apple-crop discussion list' apple-crop@virtualorchard.net
 *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:25 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

 *GMO apples may contaminate nearby organic and conventional apple
 orchards* and could potentially cause valuable export markets to reject
 U.S. apples as happened in past when wheat and rice crops were found to be
 contaminated by GMOs. A - See more at:
 http://www.foe.org/projects/food-and-technology/genetic-engineering/no-gmo-apples#sthash.FRll2V3z.dpuf

 what?  how?  this statement makes my head spin

 Craig Tanner
 Tanners Orchard, Ltd.
 Speer, IL
 309-493-5442
 309-493-5741 fax
 306-360-5610 cell


  --
 *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:
 apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *David Doud
 *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 11:28 AM
 *To:* Apple-Crop
 *Subject:* [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

  Sorry to beat this, but I think it's in our interest to stay informed -
 if the powers that be want me to give it a rest, I will -

 I copy and paste an email that went out to subscribers to Well.org - it
 was forwarded to me - I am unfamiliar with this organization and a peek at
 their website doesn't impress and the website itself doesn't have any
 content about Arctic Apples -

 I've been made aware of at least one other organization promoting
 anti-Arctic Apple sentiment -
 http://www.foe.org/projects/food-and-technology/genetic-engineering/no-gmo-apples


 I investigated the claim that McDonald's and Gerber... and it's not as
 presented - they have 'no plans' because there is no product available to
 buy, but they have not rejected and Gerber specifically admits and defends
 using GMO products -

 Looks like battle lines are being drawn and strategies arctic-ulated -

 David Doud
 peach leaf curl spray this week -
 2012 on this date was apple full bloom - not at silver tip yet this year,
 but soon -

  *You're hearing from us because you subscribed via Well.org
 http://vitaloriginswellorgllc.cmail2.com/t/t-l-thbijk-illrihdyd-j/. Last
 year, we released the Origins documentary for free to over 700,000 people
 across the world. If you want to unsubscribe, click here
 http://vitaloriginswellorgllc.cmail2.com/t/t-u-thbijk-illrihdyd-q/.*
[image: Well.org]

 On Friday the 13th, the USDA approved the unnecessary, unlabeled, and
 poorly tested GMO apple. It was an unlucky day indeed for the apple
 growers, food companies, and people like us who want to protect our
 families from GMO foods.

 But it’s not all bad news. Thanks to pressure from thousands of people
 like you, McDonald’s and Gerber -- two of the biggest purchasers of apples
 -- have already confirmed that they have no plans to sell GMO apples. Their
 commitments will help keep this risky product off the market.

 Now, we need to get other fast food companies to join them. If we can get
 the top 10 fast food companies, including Burger King, Wendy’s, Subway and
 Dunkin' Donuts, to commit to not sell the GMO apple, we may be able to
 prevent it from ending up on our plates!

 Tell these fast food restaurants to say NO to GMO apples!
 http://vitaloriginswellorgllc.cmail2.com/t/t-l-thbijk-illrihdyd-t/

 The apple in question – known as the “Arctic Apple®” -- was designed for
 purely cosmetic purposes. It was genetically engineered to not turn brown
 when cut. Of course, browning in apples can be prevented naturally by
 applying lemon juice or another source of vitamin C -- making this risky
 apple completely unnecessary.

 What’s more, without natural browning, apples may look fresh when they are
 actually decaying. In fact, scientists believe apples’ natural browning
 enzyme may help fight diseases and pests.

 In other words, if farmers grow these new apples, they may have to
 increase their pesticide use. And since they won’t be labeled, we won’t
 even know if the apples we’re buying are pesticide-doused GMOs!

 The evidence is clear: this experiment is all risk, no reward.  Fast food
 restaurants have no excuse -- 

Re: [apple-crop] non-GMO non-browning apples

2015-03-30 Thread Fleming, William
Braeburn and Cortland are also non-browning.

Bill Fleming
Montana State University
Western Ag Research Center
580 Quast Lane
Corvallis, MT 59828

-Original Message-
From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net 
[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of David Doud
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 10:42 AM
To: Apple-Crop
Subject: [apple-crop] non-GMO non-browning apples

If anyone has a need for an apple that doesn't brown, I'd be happy to send a 
stick or three of 'Sweet Emma', a chance seedling from grandfathers farm - 
white flesh that doesn't ever even hint of turning brown even while it dries to 
a crisp - a little flattened, red, 2.75, ripe early Oct, mild sweet crisp like 
a RD would dream of being -  vigorous tree, early blooming, very scab 
susceptible, doesn't fill bins like Melrose or Mutsu, loses quality in six 
weeks (would probably respond well to 'Smart-Fresh') - I sell quite a few 
between Oct 5 and Thanksgiving - 

No charge - no obligation - 
David Doud


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Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

2015-03-30 Thread dmnorton
I jsut read the last data from Facebook that indicates they have over 1.3 
billion users!  When I see the erroneous information that gets posted to the 
news feed on Facebook about GMO's, Monsanto and the Arctic apple, and the 
number of people that believe this stuff.it scares me to think what the 
future of growers and farmers is going to become!!

Dennis Norton
IPM Specialist/Certified Nurseryman/IT Specialist
Royal Oak Farm Orchard
15908 Hebron Rd.
Harvard, IL 60033-9357
Office (815) 648-4467
Mobile (815) 228-2174
Fax (609) 228-2174
http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.blogspot.com
https://www.facebook.com/royaloakfarmorchard/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Craig Tanner 
  To: 'Apple-crop discussion list' 
  Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 3:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -


  GMO apples may contaminate nearby organic and conventional apple orchards 
and could potentially cause valuable export markets to reject U.S. apples as 
happened in past when wheat and rice crops were found to be contaminated by 
GMOs. A - See more at: 
http://www.foe.org/projects/food-and-technology/genetic-engineering/no-gmo-apples#sthash.FRll2V3z.dpuf

  what?  how?  this statement makes my head spin

  Craig Tanner
  Tanners Orchard, Ltd.
  Speer, IL
  309-493-5442
  309-493-5741 fax
  306-360-5610 cell




--
  From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net 
[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of David Doud
  Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 11:28 AM
  To: Apple-Crop
  Subject: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -


  Sorry to beat this, but I think it's in our interest to stay informed - if 
the powers that be want me to give it a rest, I will - 


  I copy and paste an email that went out to subscribers to Well.org - it was 
forwarded to me - I am unfamiliar with this organization and a peek at their 
website doesn't impress and the website itself doesn't have any content about 
Arctic Apples -


  I've been made aware of at least one other organization promoting anti-Arctic 
Apple sentiment - 
http://www.foe.org/projects/food-and-technology/genetic-engineering/no-gmo-apples
 


  I investigated the claim that McDonald's and Gerber... and it's not as 
presented - they have 'no plans' because there is no product available to buy, 
but they have not rejected and Gerber specifically admits and defends using GMO 
products - 


  Looks like battle lines are being drawn and strategies arctic-ulated - 


  David Doud
  peach leaf curl spray this week - 
  2012 on this date was apple full bloom - not at silver tip yet this year, but 
soon - 


  You're hearing from us because you subscribed via 
Well.org. Last year, we released the Origins documentary for free to over 
700,000 people across the world. If you want to unsubscribe, click here. 
 
   
   


On Friday the 13th, the USDA approved the unnecessary, 
unlabeled, and poorly tested GMO apple. It was an unlucky day indeed for the 
apple growers, food companies, and people like us who want to protect our 
families from GMO foods.

But it's not all bad news. Thanks to pressure from 
thousands of people like you, McDonald's and Gerber -- two of the biggest 
purchasers of apples -- have already confirmed that they have no plans to sell 
GMO apples. Their commitments will help keep this risky product off the market.

Now, we need to get other fast food companies to join them. 
If we can get the top 10 fast food companies, including Burger King, Wendy's, 
Subway and Dunkin' Donuts, to commit to not sell the GMO apple, we may be able 
to prevent it from ending up on our plates!

Tell these fast food restaurants to say NO to GMO apples!

The apple in question - known as the Arctic Apple® -- was 
designed for purely cosmetic purposes. It was genetically engineered to not 
turn brown when cut. Of course, browning in apples can be prevented naturally 
by applying lemon juice or another source of vitamin C -- making this risky 
apple completely unnecessary.

What's more, without natural browning, apples may look 
fresh when they are actually decaying. In fact, scientists believe apples' 
natural browning enzyme may help fight diseases and pests.

In other words, if farmers grow these new apples, they may 
have to increase their pesticide use. And since they won't be labeled, we won't 
even know if the apples we're buying are pesticide-doused GMOs!

The evidence is clear: this experiment is all risk, no 
reward.  Fast food restaurants have no excuse -- they must say NO to GMO apples!

Tell fast food companies that their customers don't want 
GMO apples!

Like other 

Re: [apple-crop] non-GMO non-browning apples

2015-03-30 Thread Hugh Thomas
Also this one... http://www.apples.umn.edu/SnowSweet/index.htm

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Fleming, William w...@montana.edu wrote:

 Braeburn and Cortland are also non-browning.

 Bill Fleming
 Montana State University
 Western Ag Research Center
 580 Quast Lane
 Corvallis, MT 59828

 -Original Message-
 From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:
 apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of David Doud
 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 10:42 AM
 To: Apple-Crop
 Subject: [apple-crop] non-GMO non-browning apples

 If anyone has a need for an apple that doesn't brown, I'd be happy to send
 a stick or three of 'Sweet Emma', a chance seedling from grandfathers farm
 - white flesh that doesn't ever even hint of turning brown even while it
 dries to a crisp - a little flattened, red, 2.75, ripe early Oct, mild
 sweet crisp like a RD would dream of being -  vigorous tree, early
 blooming, very scab susceptible, doesn't fill bins like Melrose or Mutsu,
 loses quality in six weeks (would probably respond well to 'Smart-Fresh') -
 I sell quite a few between Oct 5 and Thanksgiving -

 No charge - no obligation -
 David Doud


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Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

2015-03-30 Thread Ginda Fisher
If it makes you feel any better, that number is likely significantly 
overstated. I have two Facebook accounts. Dead people and pets have Facebook 
accounts. Many people created a Facebook account but never use it.

Also, Facebook is a big place, and nobody reads all of it. Saying there is 
misinformation on Facebook is sort of like saying there is misinformation in 
newspapers.

Ginda Fisher
Apple consumer
-- 
Typed with Swype. Who knows what I meant to say?

On March 30, 2015 5:52:00 PM EDT, dmnor...@royaloakfarmorchard.com wrote:
I jsut read the last data from Facebook that indicates they have over
1.3 billion users!  When I see the erroneous information that gets
posted to the news feed on Facebook about GMO's, Monsanto and the
Arctic apple, and the number of people that believe this stuff.it
scares me to think what the future of growers and farmers is going to
become!!

Dennis Norton
IPM Specialist/Certified Nurseryman/IT Specialist
Royal Oak Farm Orchard
15908 Hebron Rd.
Harvard, IL 60033-9357
Office (815) 648-4467
Mobile (815) 228-2174
Fax (609) 228-2174
http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.blogspot.com
https://www.facebook.com/royaloakfarmorchard/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Craig Tanner 
  To: 'Apple-crop discussion list' 
  Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 3:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -


GMO apples may contaminate nearby organic and conventional apple
orchards and could potentially cause valuable export markets to reject
U.S. apples as happened in past when wheat and rice crops were found to
be contaminated by GMOs. A - See more at:
http://www.foe.org/projects/food-and-technology/genetic-engineering/no-gmo-apples#sthash.FRll2V3z.dpuf

  what?  how?  this statement makes my head spin

  Craig Tanner
  Tanners Orchard, Ltd.
  Speer, IL
  309-493-5442
  309-493-5741 fax
  306-360-5610 cell




--
From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net
[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of David Doud
  Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 11:28 AM
  To: Apple-Crop
  Subject: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -


Sorry to beat this, but I think it's in our interest to stay informed -
if the powers that be want me to give it a rest, I will - 


I copy and paste an email that went out to subscribers to Well.org - it
was forwarded to me - I am unfamiliar with this organization and a peek
at their website doesn't impress and the website itself doesn't have
any content about Arctic Apples -


I've been made aware of at least one other organization promoting
anti-Arctic Apple sentiment -
http://www.foe.org/projects/food-and-technology/genetic-engineering/no-gmo-apples



I investigated the claim that McDonald's and Gerber... and it's not
as presented - they have 'no plans' because there is no product
available to buy, but they have not rejected and Gerber specifically
admits and defends using GMO products - 


Looks like battle lines are being drawn and strategies arctic-ulated - 


  David Doud
  peach leaf curl spray this week - 
2012 on this date was apple full bloom - not at silver tip yet this
year, but soon - 


You're hearing from us because you subscribed via Well.org. Last year,
we released the Origins documentary for free to over 700,000 people
across the world. If you want to unsubscribe, click here. 
 
   
   


On Friday the 13th, the USDA approved the unnecessary, unlabeled, and
poorly tested GMO apple. It was an unlucky day indeed for the apple
growers, food companies, and people like us who want to protect our
families from GMO foods.

But it's not all bad news. Thanks to pressure from thousands of people
like you, McDonald's and Gerber -- two of the biggest purchasers of
apples -- have already confirmed that they have no plans to sell GMO
apples. Their commitments will help keep this risky product off the
market.

Now, we need to get other fast food companies to join them. If we can
get the top 10 fast food companies, including Burger King, Wendy's,
Subway and Dunkin' Donuts, to commit to not sell the GMO apple, we may
be able to prevent it from ending up on our plates!

  Tell these fast food restaurants to say NO to GMO apples!

The apple in question - known as the Arctic Apple® -- was designed
for purely cosmetic purposes. It was genetically engineered to not turn
brown when cut. Of course, browning in apples can be prevented
naturally by applying lemon juice or another source of vitamin C --
making this risky apple completely unnecessary.

What's more, without natural browning, apples may look fresh when they
are actually decaying. In fact, scientists believe apples' natural
browning enzyme may help fight diseases and pests.

In other words, if farmers grow these new apples, they may have to
increase their pesticide use. And since they won't be labeled, we won't
even know if 

Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

2015-03-30 Thread Hugh Thomas
Understanding GMO is like understanding weather, there is a lot of
superstition involved.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Ginda Fisher l...@ginda.us wrote:

  If it makes you feel any better, that number is likely significantly
 overstated. I have two Facebook accounts. Dead people and pets have
 Facebook accounts. Many people created a Facebook account but never use it.

 Also, Facebook is a big place, and nobody reads all of it. Saying there
 is misinformation on Facebook is sort of like saying there is
 misinformation in newspapers.

 Ginda Fisher
 Apple consumer
 --
 Typed with Swype. Who knows what I meant to say?


 On March 30, 2015 5:52:00 PM EDT, dmnor...@royaloakfarmorchard.com wrote:

 I jsut read the last data from Facebook that indicates they have over 1.3
 billion users!  When I see the erroneous information that gets posted to
 the news feed on Facebook about GMO's, Monsanto and the Arctic apple, and
 the number of people that believe this stuff.it scares me to think what
 the future of growers and farmers is going to become!!

 Dennis Norton
 IPM Specialist/Certified Nurseryman/IT Specialist
 Royal Oak Farm Orchard
 15908 Hebron Rd.
 Harvard, IL 60033-9357
 Office (815) 648-4467
 Mobile (815) 228-2174
 Fax (609) 228-2174
 http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
 http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.blogspot.com
 https://www.facebook.com/royaloakfarmorchard/

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Craig Tanner cr...@tannersorchard.com
 *To:* 'Apple-crop discussion list' apple-crop@virtualorchard.net
 *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:25 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

 *GMO apples may contaminate nearby organic and conventional apple
 orchards* and could potentially cause valuable export markets to reject
 U.S. apples as happened in past when wheat and rice crops were found to be
 contaminated by GMOs. A - See more at:
 http://www.foe.org/projects/food-and-technology/genetic-engineering/no-gmo-apples#sthash.FRll2V3z.dpuf

 what?  how?  this statement makes my head spin

 Craig Tanner
 Tanners Orchard, Ltd.
 Speer, IL
 309-493-5442
 309-493-5741 fax
 306-360-5610 cell


  --
 *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:
 apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *David Doud
 *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 11:28 AM
 *To:* Apple-Crop
 *Subject:* [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

  Sorry to beat this, but I think it's in our interest to stay informed -
 if the powers that be want me to give it a rest, I will -

 I copy and paste an email that went out to subscribers to Well.org - it
 was forwarded to me - I am unfamiliar with this organization and a peek at
 their website doesn't impress and the website itself doesn't have any
 content about Arctic Apples -

 I've been made aware of at least one other organization promoting
 anti-Arctic Apple sentiment -
 http://www.foe.org/projects/food-and-technology/genetic-engineering/no-gmo-apples


 I investigated the claim that McDonald's and Gerber... and it's not as
 presented - they have 'no plans' because there is no product available to
 buy, but they have not rejected and Gerber specifically admits and defends
 using GMO products -

 Looks like battle lines are being drawn and strategies arctic-ulated -

 David Doud
 peach leaf curl spray this week -
 2012 on this date was apple full bloom - not at silver tip yet this year,
 but soon -

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Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

2015-03-30 Thread Shoemaker, William H
I don't think we can escape the difficulty the public has understanding genetic 
engineering. As Dennis suggests, the immense amount of misinformation in public 
forums is bound to create confusion. We need better leadership on this issue. 
But I don't think its possible for retail farmers to escape being the face of 
agriculture to their customers. I think the best approach is tell them you 
don't grow GMO products and that you are no expert. I don't believe specialty 
crop agriculture is responsible for defending Monsanto.



Bill

William H. Shoemaker

Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist

University of Illinois

wshoe...@illinois.edumailto:wshoe...@illinois.edu


From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net 
[apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] on behalf of 
dmnor...@royaloakfarmorchard.com [dmnor...@royaloakfarmorchard.com]
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 4:52 PM
To: Apple-crop discussion list
Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

I jsut read the last data from Facebook that indicates they have over 1.3 
billion users!  When I see the erroneous information that gets posted to the 
news feed on Facebook about GMO's, Monsanto and the Arctic apple, and the 
number of people that believe this stuff.it scares me to think what the 
future of growers and farmers is going to become!!

Dennis Norton
IPM Specialist/Certified Nurseryman/IT Specialist
Royal Oak Farm Orchard
15908 Hebron Rd.
Harvard, IL 60033-9357
Office (815) 648-4467
Mobile (815) 228-2174
Fax (609) 228-2174
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- Original Message -
From: Craig Tannermailto:cr...@tannersorchard.com
To: 'Apple-crop discussion list'mailto:apple-crop@virtualorchard.net
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

GMO apples may contaminate nearby organic and conventional apple orchards and 
could potentially cause valuable export markets to reject U.S. apples as 
happened in past when wheat and rice crops were found to be contaminated by 
GMOs. A - See more at: 
http://www.foe.org/projects/food-and-technology/genetic-engineering/no-gmo-apples#sthash.FRll2V3z.dpuf

what?  how?  this statement makes my head spin

Craig Tanner
Tanners Orchard, Ltd.
Speer, IL
309-493-5442
309-493-5741 fax
306-360-5610 cell



From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net 
[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of David Doud
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 11:28 AM
To: Apple-Crop
Subject: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

Sorry to beat this, but I think it's in our interest to stay informed - if the 
powers that be want me to give it a rest, I will -

I copy and paste an email that went out to subscribers to 
Well.orghttp://Well.org - it was forwarded to me - I am unfamiliar with this 
organization and a peek at their website doesn't impress and the website itself 
doesn't have any content about Arctic Apples -

I've been made aware of at least one other organization promoting anti-Arctic 
Apple sentiment - 
http://www.foe.org/projects/food-and-technology/genetic-engineering/no-gmo-apples

I investigated the claim that McDonald's and Gerber... and it's not as 
presented - they have 'no plans' because there is no product available to buy, 
but they have not rejected and Gerber specifically admits and defends using GMO 
products -

Looks like battle lines are being drawn and strategies arctic-ulated -

David Doud
peach leaf curl spray this week -
2012 on this date was apple full bloom - not at silver tip yet this year, but 
soon -

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On Friday the 13th, the USDA approved the unnecessary, unlabeled, and poorly 
tested GMO apple. It was an unlucky day indeed for the apple growers, food 
companies, and people like us who want to protect our families from GMO foods.

But it’s not all bad news. Thanks to pressure from thousands of people like 
you, McDonald’s and Gerber -- two of the biggest purchasers of apples -- have 
already confirmed that they have no plans to sell GMO apples. Their commitments 
will help keep this risky product off the market.

Now, we need to get other fast food companies to join them. If we can get the 
top 10 fast food companies, including Burger King, Wendy’s, Subway and Dunkin' 
Donuts, to commit to not sell the GMO apple, we may be able to prevent it from 
ending up on our plates!

Tell these fast food restaurants to say NO to GMO 
apples!http://vitaloriginswellorgllc.cmail2.com/t/t-l-thbijk-illrihdyd-t/

The apple in question – known as the “Arctic Apple®” -- 

[apple-crop] 2. Re: Arctic Apples again - (Craig Tanner)

2015-03-30 Thread Arthur Harvey
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 On Friday the 13th, the USDA approved the unnecessary,
 unlabeled, and poorly
 tested GMO apple. It was an unlucky day indeed for the apple
 growers, food
 companies, and people like us who want to protect our
 families from GMO
 foods.
 
 But it's not all bad news. Thanks to pressure from thousands
 of people like
 you, McDonald's and Gerber -- two of the biggest purchasers
 of apples --
 have already confirmed that they have no plans to sell GMO
 apples. Their
 commitments will help keep this risky product off the
 market.
 
 Now, we need to get other fast food companies to join them.
 If we can get
 the top 10 fast food companies, including Burger King,
 Wendy's, Subway and
 Dunkin' Donuts, to commit to not sell the GMO apple, we may
 be able to
 prevent it from ending up on our plates!
 
  http://vitaloriginswellorgllc.cmail2.com/t/t-l-thbijk-illrihdyd-t/
 Tell
 these fast food restaurants to say NO to GMO apples!
 
 The apple in question - known as the Arctic AppleR -- was
 designed for
 purely cosmetic purposes. It was genetically engineered to
 not turn brown
 when cut. Of course, browning in apples can be prevented
 naturally by
 applying lemon juice or another source of vitamin C --
 making this risky
 apple completely unnecessary.
 
 What's more, without natural browning, apples may look fresh
 when they are
 actually decaying. In fact, scientists believe apples'
 natural browning
 enzyme may help fight diseases and pests.
 
 In other words, if farmers grow these new apples, they may
 have to increase
 their pesticide use. And since they won't be labeled, we
 won't even know if
 the apples we're buying are pesticide-doused GMOs!
 
 The evidence is clear: this experiment is all risk, no
 reward.  Fast food
 restaurants have no excuse -- they must say NO to GMO
 apples!
 
  http://vitaloriginswellorgllc.cmail2.com/t/t-l-thbijk-illrihdyd-i/
 Tell
 fast food companies that their customers don't want GMO
 apples!
 
 Like other GMOs, this apple won't be labeled and didn't
 undergo independent
 safety testing -- the USDA relied on the company's own
 assessment that it is
 safe for human consumption. Worse yet, this GMO apple was
 genetically
 engineered via a new, virtually untested experimental
 technique called RNA
 interference -- which many scientists are concerned may have
 unintended
 negative impacts on human health and the environment.
 
 So who stands to benefit from the GMO apple? Not consumers.
 Definitely not
 apple growers, who have been opposing this apple all along.
 The only
 benefits will go to Okanagan Specialty Fruit -- the biotech
 company that
 produces the Arctic AppleR.
 
 Now that the USDA has approved the apple, it could end up in
 everything from
 school lunches to fast food, kids' meals and grocery produce
 aisles. The
 risks to our health, our environment and apple farmers
 across the U.S. could
 be enormous.
 
 Fast food restaurants are increasingly trying to provide
 healthier options
 and are among the biggest potential buyers of these GMO
 apples -- so if we
 can stop them from buying the Arctic AppleR, we can send a
 strong signal
 that there is no market for it.
 
  http://vitaloriginswellorgllc.cmail2.com/t/t-l-thbijk-illrihdyd-d/
 It's
 not too late to keep GMO apples off our plates -- tell fast
 food restaurants
 to say no to this rotten idea.
 
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Re: [apple-crop] 2. Re: Arctic Apples again - (Craig Tanner)

2015-03-30 Thread David A. Rosenberger
 signal
 that there is no market for it.
 
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 It's
 not too late to keep GMO apples off our plates -- tell fast
 food restaurants
 to say no to this rotten idea.
 
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