Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders

2014-07-14 Thread Harry
to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders Rob, I've done enough 2 seat cross country flying to realise the fun involved, I'm talking aerodynamics. Harry, There may be more wetted area and cross section on the 2 seat fuselage but comparing a Discus2 B to an Arcus

Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders

2014-07-14 Thread Mike Borgelt
to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders Rob, I've done enough 2 seat cross country flying to realise the fun involved, I'm talking aerodynamics. Harry, There may be more wetted area and cross section on the 2 seat fuselage but comparing a Discus2 B to an Arcus

Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders

2014-07-14 Thread Mike Borgelt
. Mike From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Monday, 14 July 2014 12:00 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders Rob, I've done enough 2

Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders

2014-07-14 Thread Peter Champness
...@borgeltinstruments.com *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2014 12:00 PM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders Rob, I've done enough 2 seat cross country flying to realise the fun involved, I'm talking aerodynamics

Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders

2014-07-14 Thread Michael Scutter
glider and a couple of millions worth of Euros would be wasted by way of moulds etc. and maybe the company goes broke. Harry Medlicott From: Mike Borgelt Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 12:00 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M

Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders

2014-07-14 Thread DMcD
If you want to read a really good book on stuff like Reynolds numbers and low-drag buckets you should read Martin Simon's book, Model Aircraft Aerodynamics. It covers models but Martin Simons also wrote most of the books about vintage sailplanes as well.

Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders

2014-07-14 Thread Jim Staniforth
:* Monday, July 14, 2014 12:00 PM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders Rob, I've done enough 2 seat cross country flying to realise the fun involved, I'm talking aerodynamics. Harry

Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders

2014-07-13 Thread Matthew Scutter
. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders You can get two people in a two seater and share the fun which is the wholepoint of said two seaters. Without handicaps glider comps would be even less viable. On 12 Jul 2014, at 5:59 pm, Mike Borgelt mborg

Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders

2014-07-13 Thread Mike Borgelt
in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders You can get two people in a two seater and share the fun which is the wholepoint of said two seaters. Without handicaps glider comps would be even less viable. On 12 Jul 2014, at 5:59 pm, Mike Borgelt mailto:mborg...@borgeltinstruments.commborg

Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders

2014-07-12 Thread Mike Borgelt
From what has been written here over the last few days, it is disappointing that a new flapped 20M two seater doesn't have as good performance as a 15M unflapped glider. Mike Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com

Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders

2014-07-12 Thread Rob Izatt
You can get two people in a two seater and share the fun which is the wholepoint of said two seaters. Without handicaps glider comps would be even less viable. On 12 Jul 2014, at 5:59 pm, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: From what has been written here over the last

Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders

2014-07-12 Thread Harry
of a substantial improvement. Time will tell. Am sure you could give us some useful information on drag calculations, Harry Medlicott From: Rob Izatt Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 7:09 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders You can get