Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-19 Thread Alan Parry
I tried it on my wii but no luck. Express Install is not available in this version of the Flash Player That would have worked quite nicely in the living room. Alan On 17/12/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried the Flash version on an Archos player, but it didn't work. The

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-18 Thread Rhys Jones
On 12/12/2007, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer Flash streaming also now works from the appropriate pages of http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/ e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b008j2lq Good joined-up thinking there, and all this makes linking *whole* BBC

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-17 Thread nick richards
Not yet S60 tried it in but it does work on the n800 with its lovely firefox 3 based browser: http://flickr.com/photos/nedrichards/2113673868/ Nick On 12/13/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/12/2007, nick richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your hand held computers have

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-17 Thread Brian Butterworth
I tried the Flash version on an Archos player, but it didn't work. The Flash may need upgrading... On 17/12/2007, nick richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not yet S60 tried it in but it does work on the n800 with its lovely firefox 3 based browser:

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-17 Thread Davy Mitchell
Just tried watching Hood in full screen flash - far too jerky. No download option this week either, a very very clunky interface, no subscription feature, DRM times out wrongly (too early)... Is this supposed to launch on Christmas day? Davy -- Davy Mitchell Blog -

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
Is the general idea now that the iPlayer migrate to be a Flash-delivered catch-up service and the archive be moved to Project Kangaroo? On 12/12/2007, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/12/2007, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: asta la vista DRM debate I wouldn't be so

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, Oeztunali, Sebnem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... where I actually want to download the videos before I watch because they're saved on my PC then for subsequent Viewing... Don't you just need to hit the play again button for subsequent viewing in a flash player? Your hand held

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/dec/13/bbc.digitalmedia?gusrc=rssfeed=media On 13/12/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the general idea now that the iPlayer migrate to be a Flash-delivered catch-up service and the archive be moved to Project Kangaroo? On 12/12/2007,

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Andy
Nice to see the BBC have made sure that it doesn't run on Linux, or at least it doesn't run on this version. I get a nice blank grey screen. And a mouse hand with no indication of what it does. Clicking it informs me I have to enter into a legally binding contract[1]. A contract that states if I

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Sean DALY
Does anyone know, is the Flash-encapsulated video On2-VP6, or H.264? I suspect it's the latter but support for that is very recent and compatible players are certainly not widespread yet. I'm waiting for the day the BBC arranges Dirac encapsulation with Adobe. There was a precedent with the

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread nick richards
On 12/13/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/12/2007, Oeztunali, Sebnem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... where I actually want to download the videos before I watch because they're saved on my PC then for subsequent Viewing... Don't you just need to hit the play again button

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm waiting for the day the BBC arranges Dirac encapsulation with Adobe. There was a precedent with the special Real Player version a few years ago. The advantages for the Beeb would be fantastic particularly for simplified internal

RE: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Jeremy Stone
it now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glyn Wintle Sent: 13 December 2007 13:14 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live It does work on my Ubuntu. Adobe Flash Player 9

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Glyn Wintle
It does work on my Ubuntu. Adobe Flash Player 9 - Original Message From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:16:23 PM Subject: Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live Nice to see the BBC have made sure

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 13/12/2007, nick richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/13/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/12/2007, Oeztunali, Sebnem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... where I actually want to download the videos before I watch because they're saved on my PC then for subsequent

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, nick richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your hand held computers have flash players? My Nokia S60 phone does. And with Flash Lite v3 (admittedly in 'developer preview' only at the moment) it supports YouTube so I don't see any reason why a UK located IP wouldn't be able to

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't you just need to hit the play again button for subsequent viewing in a flash player? Your hand held computers have flash players? My Nokia S60 phone does. There are a range of Flashes for mobile devices at:

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Matt Barber
If you're using Opera Mini on the Lobster, it will route your traffic through a proxy, to cut down image sizes - this server is outside of the UK, is there a version of Opera you can get that won't cache the content off-shore? I think in the full fledged version (you have to pay but there's a free

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, Oeztunali, Sebnem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot understand anyoneelse not supporting flash; If I'd had a hand held and would want to watch anything on that small display: it wouldn't be anything else but 3min youtube videos. Why this repulsion against de facto standards?

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: De facto standards are typically undocumented, controlled by only one or two organisations, and patent encumbered. It's in this context that I think BBC Dirac in Flash would make sense for the BBC. The Macromedia Flash container started off

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Matthew Cashmore
] To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:16:23 PM Subject: Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live Nice to see the BBC have made sure that it doesn't run on Linux, or at least it doesn't run on this version. I get a nice blank grey screen. And a mouse

RE: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Tom Cartwright
Get back to work! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Cashmore Sent: 13 December 2007 15:50 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live Working on my install of Ubuntu

RE: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Gareth Davis
, WC2B 4PH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glyn Wintle Sent: 13 December 2007 13:14 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live It does work on my Ubuntu. Adobe Flash Player 9

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Sean DALY
Ogg is a container format, like QuickTime MOV and Microsoft AVI and ASF (WMV/WMA). I agree it would be great if browsers recognized the Ogg container and Theora/Vorbis cidecs natively, the way they recognize JPG and GIF c. Theora is great and there are powerful FOSS tools to transcode to it, for

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Richard Cartwright
On 13/12/07 16:24, Tom Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get back to work! Is iPlayer the BBC website killer? As Facebook is blocked in more and more workplaces due to the amount of time employees spend using it, will employees catching up with last nights TV at work cause bbc.co.uk to become

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Matthew Cashmore
December 2007 15:50 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live Working on my install of Ubuntu to - as well as my Mac - which is the main thing! Watching Dr Who as I type :-) Joy. m On 13/12/07 13:14, Glyn Wintle [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Frank Wales
Matthew Cashmore wrote: Working on my install of Ubuntu to - as well as my Mac - which is the main thing! Watching Dr Who as I type :-) Joy. Doesn't yet work for everything on Firefox/Linux: Sorry, Gergiev Conducts Three 20th Century Greats is not available to play here. Presumably, this

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Frank Wales
Richard Cartwright wrote: Is iPlayer the BBC website killer? As Facebook is blocked in more and more workplaces due to the amount of time employees spend using it, will employees catching up with last nights TV at work cause bbc.co.uk to become a blocked site too? If a company's staff are

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12/12/2007, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: asta la vista DRM debate I wouldn't be so sure about that; isn't there DRM in Flash video streaming too? - does it work with gnash, i wonder? It doesn't work, although a black to white gradient is rendered and that's it, so it doesn't

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-12 Thread Tom Loosemore
On 12/12/2007, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/12/2007, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: asta la vista DRM debate I wouldn't be so sure about that; isn't there DRM in Flash video streaming too? sorry - you're right - flash streaming using flash media server can be

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12/12/2007, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/12/2007, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/12/2007, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: asta la vista DRM debate I wouldn't be so sure about that; isn't there DRM in Flash video streaming too? sorry -

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-12 Thread Sean DALY
DRM is central to Adobe's pitch to broadcasters: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6558979.stm http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200712/120407adobefms3.html - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-12 Thread Tom Loosemore
asta la vista DRM debate I wouldn't be so sure about that; isn't there DRM in Flash video streaming too? sorry - you're right - flash streaming using flash media server can be DRM'd Is the Flash iPlayer using flash media server with the DRM turned on? I dunno - given Flash

RE: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-12 Thread Christopher Woods
Well well, this was snuck out, wasn't it! The first I knew was when Iain (housemate) rushed into my room earlier and loudly announced that he'd 'gotten his wish', because as a mac user all he's ever wanted to do is stream the iplayer content to watch then and there (he doesn't want to download

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: asta la vista DRM debate I wouldn't be so sure about that; isn't there DRM in Flash video streaming too? sorry - you're right - flash streaming using flash media server can be DRM'd Is the Flash iPlayer using flash media