Mark,
That argument is not hers, but rather it is firmly specified by the Guardian
in several communications from him.
Max.
|
|For what it's worth, I thought that was the weakest part of
|her argument.
|
|Mark A. Foster * http://markfoster.net
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"In response to your letter of 2 December 1984 asking a question about the
event commemorated on the Day of the Covenant, the Universal
House of Justice has directed us to send you the following extract from a letter
written on behalf of the beloved guardian on this subject:
|Depending on the dictionary. However, don't you think that is
|different from simply recommending against their use in general?
|
|I will stick with my analogy to some of the fundamentalist
|Christian groups I have encountered. IMO, Ruhi comes pretty close
|(in several respects).
|
Please
* Participant 4: 1 went to a very stimulating course for training tutors of
Rook I. For the first few hours we played games to get to know each other
and trust each other. Then someone suggested that we empty' ourselves so we
spent an after noon talking about whatever was on our minds. I thought
This tips focuses on the question and answer study process introduced in
Book 1, Unit 1. Tutors should not be rigid about this process, but bear in
mind that it is helpful to have a technique for study - in other words, a
systematic procedure by which a task is accomplished. It should not be
In studying any course of the Ruhi Institute, participants are expected to
achieve three levels of comprehension. The first is a basic understanding of
the meaning of words and sentences. Thus, for example, after reading the
quotation, The betterment of the world can be accomplished through pure
Many years of experience with the courses of the Ruhi Institute have shown that
examining ideas at these three levels of understanding helps collaborators
create the conscious basis of a life of service to the Cause. But what may
surprise someone who is unfamiliar with this experience is that
In general, this course is not complex, and like all Ruhi Institute courses,
it is conducted tutorially. This is best done by dividing the participants
into small groups and allowing each group to move along at its own pace and
according to its own rhythm. This point is extremely important,
Small groups of participants, working with the assistance of a tutor, meet
together in an atmosphere of joy, calm and meditative serenity to engage in
close study of the course materials. The tutor's role is that of a
facilitator of learning, and seldom that of a lecturer. The responsibility
for
The Ruhi Institute, following the ideas presented in the previous
paragraphs, asserts that effective participation which will not easily
degenerate into political manipulation requires a systematic learning
process within each community and region so that the community itself
experiments with new
I would like to invite you to join a study circle we have recently
established in our community. There are already twelve people in our group,
and I am sure you will like every one of them. We have a great deal of fun
together. We study twice a week for a couple of hours but also engage in
other
Your ability to foster and assess understanding will require you to
continually develop such attributes as sensitivity, detachment and
generosity and draw on your powers of perception and intuition. You will
need to listen everyone carefully. Often an individual does not have
sufficient words to
If there is one concept that we hope characterizes the approach of the Ruhi
Institute, it is flexibility. However, protecting a system from rigidity is
not an easy task, especially when it becomes widely used in diverse
circumstances around the world. There is a tendency in most of us to
introduce
* Participant 4: 1 went to a very stimulating course for training tutors of
Rook I. For the first few hours we played games to get to know each other
and trust each other. Then someone suggested that we empty' ourselves so we
spent an after noon talking about whatever was on our minds. I thought
The above describes one way in which an institute program for the
development of human resources for the expansion and consolidation of the
Faith may unfold. What is important for you to realize is that the program
will not be the same for every institute that has chosen to use the Ruhi
Institute
Whatever activities a study circle undertakes, it is important that no
feelings of exclusivity ever be allowed to develop among its members. Their
activities should serve to bind the group together in fellowship and at the
same time attract others to their mode of learning. The meetings of the
* Participants in the courses of the Ruhi Institute are expected to achieve
three levels of comprehension of the quotations they study: to understand
the meaning of the words and sentences from the Writings, to see how
concepts in the Writings apply to one's daily life, and to grasp some of the
The reflections in the previous section on the dynamics of a study circle,
dynamics which are generated by its purpose to contribute to the spiritual
and moral empowerment of the participants, must have reaffirmed your
conviction that to become an effective tutor, one must learn to nurture
others.
|Do you have a specific definition of Progressive Revelation
|that one can refer to? Because looking at the passage you
|quote in the Quran:
Sure, here it is:
http://studycircle.angeltowns.com/progressive.htm
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The correct wording of this is as follows:
According to the ordinances of the Faith of God, women are the equals of
men in all rights save only that of membership on the Universal House of
Justice, for, as hath been stated in the text of the Book, both the Head and
the members of the House of
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one of my friends recently returned from the SED conference
in Florida,and he forwarded me the following bit of news which was shared
with the participants. thought it would be of interest to you all as
well. lots of love, me
Hi my friends,
I wish you could all have been
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The charts that are presented here speak much
louder than the articles that frequently reach me on this subject. I am
acommunity college English professor and I am looking for community
awareness opportunities fortwenty students I am bringing to London March
19-24.Are you a
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And further, it is an allegorical indication that man can never reach the
station of God.
|
| I think this is a big challenge Baha'u'llah is inviting people to
| produce a verse like what He is revealing.
|
|The verse in the Tablet of Ahmad doesn't appear to me to be an
|invitation to produce
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It appears that such events are part of a much greater
calamities on Muslims due to their own actions: http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/se/PDC/pdc-23.html
|Subject: Devastating stampede|||I just heard the
awful saddening news of a stampede in Iraq|today in which some 700
You forgot to add : in my limited understanding of the Baha'i Holy
Writings.
|
|Say what?!
|Are you making a sick joke or what? Shoghi Effendi is talking
|about the actions of the Shi`ah **ecclesiastical order** and
|the wave of secularization in Persia then.
|
|
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Please notice that I never suggested that notion. Someone assumed I had
meant so and heaped some abusive words on that notion. Very customary in
discussions among North Americans.
|
|So when you expressed shock at Max for suggesting that the
|deaths of the Muslim women and children were due to
Simply I meant: the abasement and humiliation descending upon Muslims,
which
of course are getting momentum and escalate as time passes, is a direct
result of their own actions by rejecting the new teachings of God,
insisting
to implement obsolete doctrines, and distancing themselves from the true
We have but to turn our gaze to humanity's blood-stained history to
realize
that nothing short of intense mental as well as physical agony has been
able
to precipitate those epoch-making changes that constitute the greatest
landmarks in the history of human civilization.
(Shoghi Effendi,
They do not believe in the COVENANT defined by the chain of Successors,
hence, they cannot be considered Baha'is. Belief in Baha'u'llah requires
belief in His Covenant part of which is defined and end up with the
profound
belief to the Successorship of the Twin Institutions of
Bahá'í is attributed to an individual based on the definitions of the
Bahá'í Institutions, not based on person's claim. To eradicate any
confusion
from the Assembly members Institutions, it appears that now Bahá'í in
good standing is added to distinguish whether a person is self-defined
Bahá'í or
Using the same reasoning you use, then, we have to accept, for example, as
sociologist any person who claims to be one, even when he has no
education, no experience, neither any knowledge whatsoever of sociology,
and
not even a member of Association of Sociologists, but just based on your
theory
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Excellent! So we conclude that in order to see who is a real
Muslim we have to have a reference point, i.e., a criteria which is infallible
or divinely guided. We have to turn to God Himself then to see who is a
Muslim.For that purpose "self-definition" is insufficient
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A
Bah' is a "Quickener of Mankind" according to the Holy Word. He is far greater
in station and responsibility than a sociologist ! And yet theory of
"self-definition" applies to Bah' but not to sociologist?
Max.
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faith is one thing. Self-identification of
an academic or professional practice is an altogether different
thing.
No one would go to a sel-identified physician for treatment if he KNEW
the individual had no professional status whatsoever.
To compare the two and call it an argu
Offensive! Yes offensive. It was offensive to Jews the Words of a young
man
of 30 that's why they killed Him (Jesus). And Imam Husayn's Words were
offensive to most people who killed Him. Most Manifestations of God are
offensive to ignorant masses.
Max.
|I think those sorts of definitions would
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"On the appearance of
fearful natural events call ye to mind the might and majesty of your Lord, He
Who heareth and seeth all, and say, 'Dominion is God's, the Lord of the seen and
the unseen, the Lord of creation' ." --
Bah'u'llh
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In MS
Word menus: Tools Autocorrect Options
type
at left pane: Baha'i
type
at right pane: Bah'
again;
type
at left pane: Bahai
type
at right pane: Bah'
=
hold Alt+160 (160 must be typed on numerical keypad)
=
hold Alt+161
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One
possible explanations is: that is exactly the Word revealed to His Manifestation
in its revealed language. Next Manifestation might use "God is Most Glorious"
insteadif He is chosen from among Yankees!
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We may ask what the physical
counterpart of the soul is in this world. It seems from the study of the
Writings that it is the embryo growing in the womb of a mother. From a study of
the latter, we can deduce some attributes and characteristics of the former. We
can
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If
such progress and self-improvementwas possible within present context of
Islam it was not necessary for God to appoint a new Manifestation. Islamic
Fatvas against Jews, Baha'is and other religions and even cultures proves this
point. The fundamental problem is due to
For a comprehensive response you are urged to study the concept of
progressive revelation:
http://studycircle.angeltowns.com/progressive.htm
|I understand what you are saying but from my perspective it
|seems like there is a contradiction which you aren't
|addressing. If Muslims believe that
Baha'u'llah in Iqan reveals elucidates that after advent of a
Manifestation of God all those who believe in Him are believers, and the
rest of mankind are, in the estimation of God: Kafir. He explains the
view
point of God! For instance, He explains that when Prophet Muhammad
declared
His
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In
Iqan paragraph 42, Baha'u'llahattributes "waywardness and misbelief" to
those who refused accepting next Manifestation of God. His original Words are:
"Kufr va zillalat", and hence, it can be concluded that"Kafir" is defined
categorically in Iqan as anyone who does not
A research of Persian English versions of Iqan reveals that words
infidel, kafir, non-believer, or kufr, misbelief are
interchangable as recorded in the following paragraphs of English
Persian
Iqan:
Infidel=
#12 anfus-i-mushrikih = misbelievers
#27 takfir, kufr
#57 kafir
#59
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Meaning of Perverting the Holy
Text
This is one of the instances that have been referred
to. Verily by "perverting" the text
is not meant that which these foolish and abject souls have fancied, even as
some maintain that Jewish and Christian divines have effaced from the
|
|Until Muhammad, most religious scriptures were basically human
|records, sometimes fictionalized, of the words and actions of
|the Prophets and Their followers. In a Baha'i context, they
|would be similar to a pilgrim's notes.
|
This view seems to be opposite to the Baha'I Writings that
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"There is so much misunderstanding
about Islam in the West in general that you have to dispel. Your task is rather
difficult and requires a good deal of erudition. Your chief task is to acquaint
the friends with the pure teaching of the Prophet as recorded in the Qur'n,
Incorrect personal conclusion from the so-called Baha'I Writings:
|I don't see what you are trying to prove exactly. The Bahai
|writings are very clear that the Bible is NOT wholly authentic
|and has certain problems in it. The difference between what
|I'm saying about the Bible and what the
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In the
next stages of development of the Universal House of Justice, its membership
will increase by 9 as Abdu'l-Baha explained. So we mightsee in near
futurea House with 81 members.
Hence,
membership of the House is not limited to 9.
Also,
developments in worldwide
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'Abdu'l-Bah then shared some humorous stories and
laughingly stated that:
Once there were three passengers on a ship: a Muslim, a
Christian and a Jew.
The Muslim prayed, 'O God, take the life of this
Christian!'
The Christian prayed, 'Lord, slay this Muslim.'
Then they
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In the
Persian/Arabic version of that same book.
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I am
relatively sure he would claim this refers to Baha'is, and they must be killed
as the Prophet instructed.
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Some
info I found is as follows: (pages refer to English edition of Tablets of
Baha'u'llah revealed after Kitab-i-Aqdas)
p231
Tablet to Siyyid Mirza Afnan 8-Muharram-1299 (30-Nov-1881)
p233
Tablet to Haji Siyyid Mirza Rabiu'l-Avval-1292 (April-May
1875)
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"If man himself is left in his natural state, he
will become lower than the animal and continue to grow more ignorant and
imperfect. The savage tribes of central Africa are
evidences of this. Left in their natural condition, they have sunk to the lowest
depths and degrees
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What did Abdu'l-Bah Know: An Historical Document
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Such orders are present in many Holy Books of God, including Qur'an, and
the
*context* in which such instructions were given usually warrant God's
reason
for order them.
|
|I agree. I wasn't refering to the cases of fire and brimstone
|raining down on folks from heaven or heavenly plagues. I was
No worries at all! Iran said, today, it is going to wipe out Israel in no
time!
|in order for Israel to maintain its character as a
|Jewish state it has to deprive the native population of their
|rights, and enforce a racist immigration policy.
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This question is asked from Jesus, and He gives a relatively comprehensive
response. See NT.
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|It says in the Writings that those married will be united
|together while in
|heaven. I was just wondering what would happen in the
|following situation:
|One spouse dies, and the other spouse
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Contradictory Information regarding the Events with Banu Qurayzah...
http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=discussiondid=356
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I know one here in our campus.!
|wasn't wiped out. Wasn't wiped out, my foot. Just show me one
|person. One. Only one, and one person only.
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British Banks Ban Offensive Piggy Banks
British banks are prohibiting piggy
banks because they may offend some Muslims. The United Kingdom's Halifax
and NatWest banks have banned the ubiquitous time-honored symbol of saving from
being given to children or used in their
Please notice that God himself abrogated Qur'an in 1844 and replaced it
with
His new Dispensation. So Qur'an is obsolete as far as we Baha'is are
concern.
|Ok, you are an intelligent person with an MD. I don't know how
|many times you've heard me try to say that I believe that
|there should be
This simply means participants in Baha'I discussions on this list must be
academic. If you are not an academic, you have the choice of either not
posting or getting a PhD as soon as possible.
P.S. PhD's obtained through distant learning are *not* considered
academic
in this list.
|Our own
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"The pilgrim's note reports the Master as saying:
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Your confusion is not limited to this issue only.
|This is rather confusing. You've got two dates for the same
|letter. My recollection is that it was addressed to John
|Cornell who use to post here regularly before his sudden
|passing, not to an NSA.
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People all over the world are saying yes to what the Bahá'ís, with the North
American Bahá'ís in the lead, have been doing. Some examples are: o SED
projects all over the world, especially in India, Africa, Latin America. o
The Ruhi Institute, born in Columbia, gives us an instrument which makes
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|The quotation I'm looking for says|specifically that the
Universal House of Justice did not|impose Ruhi from above, but that the
Baha'is voted for it with|their feet.That is the Text of at least a
letter of the UHJ. The UHJ created the "institute process", and what
To understand what could happen had the UHJ asked NSAs in North America to
develop some systematic deepening course materials, we can just take a look
at something similar called Baha'i Encyclopedia which Baha'i scholars
began some 20 years ago and then they started to argue, then fights broke
out
Martin's statement is absolutely in conformity with the letters of the UHJ:
Ruhi never forced by the UHJ. Ruhi is *forced* by some NSAs. *Forced* with
such force that anyone organizing any type of deepening other than Ruhi, or
participating in any type of deepening other than Ruhi, would be
That was done immediately and results was excellent and favorable!!!
However, actions of tunnel-view leaders caused the 5-Year Plan to be
repeated from Ridvan 2006, just like repeating an academic course after
receiving an F by student!
|Wow.
|
|I had heard of Board Members talking to people
|
|Huh? What do you mean by that?
|
Simply: those responsible were removed from their positions, and 5-Year Plan
will be repeated from Ridvan 2006!
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All that is needed to be known is this quoted statement of
Abdu'l-Baha:
"In the religion of Baha'u'llah all are
servants
and maid servants, brothers and sisters. As soon as one feels a
little better, a little superior to the rest he
is..."
dismissed!
||Did the
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Some two years after His
passing, on 19-December-1923,thisTablet of Abdu'l-Baha is revealed from the Abha Kingdom
through then pen of Shoghi Effendito the believers residing in Iran,
Turkistan, Kazakhistan, India, Iraq, Ottoman regions, Egypt, Syria, and other
Oriental
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Correction:
Shoghi
Effendi's letter is addressed to the believers residing in those regions,
Abdu'l-Baha's Tablet is addressed to the believers all over the
world.
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Iran starts to lose faith in its hardline President
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article326035.ece
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Qur'an 32:5 testifies to the progressive revelation of God to mankind
through His Manifestations Who appear nearly once every 1000 years.
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|http://www.geocities.com/speed_of_light_quran/
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|http://www.speed-light.info/angels_speed_of_light.htm
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|http://www.islamicity.com/Science/960703A.SHTML
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, or is it?
All articles, essays, research papers on this topic is highly appreciated
with gratitude.
Best regards,
Max Jasper.
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Baha'i Response to
Tabatabai:
The following web site, introduced by Dr.
Mawlana Mullazadeh (London, Tel.: 00442089929500)in
Rangarang TV contains an article by Tabatabai regarding the Bab
and the Baha'i Faith.
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Please
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Baha'i = surnameof a family who are descendant of
Baha'u'llah living in Nova Scotia, Canada.
Sala = Emeric Sala, Polish descendant Baha'i in
Canada.
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They are descendants of Mirza Muhammad-Quli.
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