Re: bbdb

2013-11-11 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 21:07:36 -0500 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: I'd love to include the new BBDB 3 in GNU Elpa, SM And so would I. Maybe the BBDB should just have its own ELPA repository until the assignments are resolved? The GNU ELPA could have a new external link index

Re: BBDB V3 export

2012-03-13 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:49:32 +0530 Sriram ET. karra@gmail.com wrote: SE On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Brett Presnell presn...@stat.ufl.eduwrote: SE Just FYI, back in October 2011 Ted Zlatanov t...@lifelogs.com wrote on this list: I put together some code that uses CouchDB to store

Re: cloudy BBDB

2011-11-01 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:08:48 -0400 Brett Presnell presn...@stat.ufl.edu wrote: BP I do pretty well at keeping my bbdb databased synced across the machines BP that I use. My bigger problem is syncing it with my mobile phone BP (nokia/symbian right now) and my google contacts (similar issues

Re: cloudy BBDB

2011-10-29 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 08:58:19 +0700 Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: EA On Fri, Oct 28 2011, Ted Zlatanov wrote: I put together some code that uses CouchDB to store Gnus group subscriptions and marks in gnus-sync.el. It works well; so well in fact that I'm considering doing

Re: BBDB synchronization

2011-10-28 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:43:14 -0500 Ted Zlatanov t...@lifelogs.com wrote: TZ I also plan to add cloud sync support to BBDB 3.x and Gnus so they can TZ be synchronized against a server and provide a neutral format, probably TZ XML and JSON in addition to the native Emacs format. The sync server

Re: [BBDB] feature freeze

2011-10-28 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:54:55 -0500 Ted Zlatanov t...@lifelogs.com wrote: TZ On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 11:29:32 -0400 Brett Presnell presn...@stat.ufl.edu wrote: BP In spite of my need for this functionality, I'm not sure how wise it BP would be to devote a great deal of effort to direct conversion

cloudy BBDB

2011-10-27 Thread Ted Zlatanov
I put together some code that uses CouchDB to store Gnus group subscriptions and marks in gnus-sync.el. It works well; so well in fact that I'm considering doing the same for BBDB records. Imagine having your BBDB entirely stored on a central server instead of a local file. Yes, kind of like

Re: BBDB in the GNU ELPA

2011-05-30 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Sat, 28 May 2011 10:57:03 -0400 Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote: BH Ted Zlatanov t...@lifelogs.com writes: On Thu, 26 May 2011 09:27:05 +0200 joa...@verona.se wrote: j While bbdb is the most mature it can't be included in Emacs AFAICS. It's on my TODO list to look through the BBDB

Re: TAB should move from field to field

2011-04-25 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 15:19:02 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW On Mon Apr 25 2011 Stefan Monnier wrote: I'd personally even prefer if fields work as sexp, so I can just use M-C-SPC to mark a few fields and then M-w to copy them. I.e. hooking into forward-sexp-function would suit

Re: TAB should move from field to field

2011-04-24 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 04:17:14 +0800 Leo sdl@gmail.com wrote: L I have one suggestion. I think making TAB move from field to field is L useful. For example, in the following record, assume point at `R'ichard, L TAB could move from R - F - m - n - next record L Richard Stallman - FSF L

Re: mail administrivia

2011-04-21 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:01:59 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW On Tue Apr 19 2011 Ted Zlatanov wrote: If you send 3 warnings (1 per week) before disabling the sourceforge.net mailing list (making it just a forward address), I think that's sufficient. We'll set up the new list

Re: mail administrivia

2011-04-21 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:10:24 -0400 Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org wrote: * Ted Zlatanov g...@yvsrybtf.pbz [2011-04-18 11:03:57 -0500]: - set up a bbdb-vcs list for commit messages Sam - subscribe bbdb-info to bbdb-vcs in the digest mode E I'm not sure that's necessary. I wouldn't find

Re: [BBDB] Changelog 2010-04-10

2011-04-21 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:01:09 -0400 Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org wrote: * Ted Zlatanov g...@yvsrybtf.pbz [2011-04-21 13:21:42 -0500]: TZ I didn't think timestamp was updated every time you see a message from TZ someone, just when the record is modified. This one would explicitly TZ say I saw

Re: bbdb-mode-map should inherit from special-mode-map

2011-04-19 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:52:21 +0200 David Engster d...@randomsample.de wrote: DE Ted Zlatanov writes: On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:34:15 +0200 David Engster d...@randomsample.de wrote: DE XEmacs is another matter, though. I attached the current logs for XEmacs DE 21.4 and 21.5. Note that your

Re: mail administrivia

2011-04-19 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:25:21 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW On Mon Apr 18 2011 Ted Zlatanov wrote: On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:18:45 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW Two many changes today. I lost track! RW 2011-04-16 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org RW * lisp

mail administrivia (was: [BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16 (addendum))

2011-04-18 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:18:45 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW Two many changes today. I lost track! RW 2011-04-16 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org RW * lisp/bbdb.el (bbdb-create-hook, bbdb-change-hook): Use defvar. I think Savannah can handle mailing lists and maybe even send

Re: [BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16

2011-04-18 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 11:06:38 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW On Mon Apr 18 2011 Ted Zlatanov wrote: The GNU ELPA is only intended for Emacs 24 and higher. RW Great, thanks. Next week I'll push my old code for Emacs 27.2 to GNU RW ELPA. It's already somewhat bit-rotten, but maybe

Re: [BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16

2011-04-18 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 11:16:59 -0500 Ted Zlatanov t...@lifelogs.com wrote: TZ On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 11:06:38 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW On Mon Apr 18 2011 Ted Zlatanov wrote: The GNU ELPA is only intended for Emacs 24 and higher. RW Great, thanks. Next week I'll push my old

Re: [BBDB] Contributing to the new BBDB

2011-04-18 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:18:16 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW Ted Zlatanov has kindly agreed to help collecting these copyright RW assignments. Honestly, right now we really do not yet have an RW overview who has contributed what to BBDB. The more we are able to RW unfold

Re: Is the feature to add/update record when sending emails useful?

2011-04-15 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:37:51 +0800 Leo sdl@gmail.com wrote: L I personally haven't used this much in Emacs. But since gmail does this L and I have found it useful at times, I wonder if this feature should be L part of the bbdb-mua feature set. I use something like that in Gnus. Ted

Re: Non-nil default value in hook variables

2011-04-15 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:15:12 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW What should someone do who simply wants the hook to be nil? IMHO you should never set a hook to nil outside the file scope that created it. Do you have such a use case? Ted

Re: bbdb-mode-map should inherit from special-mode-map

2011-04-15 Thread Ted Zlatanov
(David, I sent you a courtesy CC but posted to the list through Gmane to avoid the moderator delay) On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:34:15 +0200 David Engster d...@randomsample.de wrote: DE Ted Zlatanov writes: On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:16:58 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW My main concern

Re: [BBDB] Changelog 2010-04-10

2011-04-15 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 09:00:43 +0200 Didier Verna did...@xemacs.org wrote: dvl Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: First of all, the most noteworthy change is that BBDB has been transfered from CVS to git. So for anonymous checkout, you should now use dvl For those of us who had write

Re: bbdb-mode-map should inherit from special-mode-map

2011-04-14 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:47:11 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW On Wed Apr 13 2011 Ted Zlatanov wrote: It should be possible to support at least Emacs 23.x and XEmacs. Gnus does it so we can look there for potential problems and solutions. You could ask David Engster d

Re: bbdb-mode-map should inherit from special-mode-map

2011-04-13 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:05:30 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW I do not want to exclude any other dialects of emacs here. But they RW would most likely require a more systematic overhaul of all code. RW In that sense, I am a bit hesitant to add support for something that RW is not

Re: [BBDB] Changelog 2010-04-10

2011-04-11 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 21:09:37 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW I just submitted a new set of changes for BBDB. RW First of all, the most noteworthy change is that BBDB has been RW transfered from CVS to git. So for anonymous checkout, you should RW now use RW git clone

Re: [BBDB] Changelog 2010-04-10

2011-04-11 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:18:18 -0400 Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org wrote: Sam I started using bbdb about 15 years ago and I accumulated a fairly large Sam .bbdb file. Some records there are not relevant to me all that much (a Sam coworker from 10 years ago), so, on one hand, I do not want to remove

Re: [BBDB] feature freeze

2011-04-11 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 11:29:32 -0400 Brett Presnell presn...@stat.ufl.edu wrote: BP In spite of my need for this functionality, I'm not sure how wise it BP would be to devote a great deal of effort to direct conversion of the BP new bbdb record format to vcard. It sounds like Ted Zlatanov has BP

BBDB synchronization (was: BBDB beginners guide?)

2011-04-06 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 05:57:31 -0400 Brett Presnell presn...@stat.ufl.edu wrote: BP Have to agree with this. I'm a long-time user of BBDB, but it has BP always been frustrating (and basically impossible) to try to sync BP information between BBDB and other contact database (essentially only BP

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-06 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 09:22:49 +0200 Reiner Steib reinersteib+gm...@imap.cc wrote: RS On Mon, Apr 04 2011, Ted Zlatanov wrote: (unless (featurep 'bbdb3) ; or whatever (defalias 'bbdb-search-organization 'bbdb-company) (defalias 'bbdb-search-name 'bbdb-name)) RS Please don't do it this way

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-04 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:52:27 -0400 Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: ML I do think it can be productive right now, while development is moving ML quickly, to ask whether some of the changes, such as reversing the ML parameters of bbdb-split, are necessary, since they are easier to fix ML now

(patch) sort cycling completion candidates (was: bbdb-complete-name return value)

2011-03-08 Thread Ted Zlatanov
Attached please find a patch to sort cycling completion candidates by the text property :completion-cycle-penalty (lower is better). Thanks Ted === modified file 'lisp/minibuffer.el' --- lisp/minibuffer.el 2011-02-12 18:30:13 + +++ lisp/minibuffer.el 2011-03-08 14:51:07 + @@ -704,7

Re: (patch) sort cycling completion candidates

2011-03-08 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:32:00 +0100 Antoine Levitt antoine.lev...@gmail.com wrote: AL What about the case when s1 and s2 are nil? Shouldn't there be another AL (t ( (length c1) (length c2))) at the end of the second cond ? Am I AL missing something? Oops. I had it in my original patch but

Re: bbdb-complete-name return value

2011-03-01 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:50:20 -0500 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: The only thing I need to clarify is sorting. Right now shorter string wins. In the new method, higher score should win. SM I think it's easier if lower scores win, so it's consistent with the SM current use

Re: BBDB ELPA-style packaging

2011-02-28 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:48:38 -0600 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW On Wed Feb 23 2011 Ted Zlatanov wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:54:12 -0600 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: Could you consider moving to Git or Bazaar for development? CVS is very inconvenient. I can't use

Re: bbdb-complete-name return value

2011-02-28 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 00:17:05 -0500 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: TZ Maybe accept the score as a property to the candidate strings and use TZ that property, if it exists, instead of the string length? TZ That would side-step the current completion mechanism nicely, requiring TZ

Re: bbdb-complete-name return value

2011-02-23 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:09:28 -0600 Ted Zlatanov t...@lifelogs.com wrote: TZ On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 02:03:55 -0500 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: IMO the cycling should only be based on scores. That would, I think, accomplish all your items and produce less DWIM but that's

Re: BBDB ELPA-style packaging

2011-02-23 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:54:12 -0600 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW On Thu Jan 20 2011 Ted Zlatanov wrote: Let me know when you've figured out what portions and authors need to be tracked down. I'll work with Chong Yidong and you to do it. RW I'll try to make some kind of table

Re: bbdb-complete-name return value

2011-02-17 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 02:03:55 -0500 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: IMO the cycling should only be based on scores. That would, I think, accomplish all your items and produce less DWIM but that's not it. SM Currently, the cycling code is fairly naive and it uses a fixed

Re: BBDB ELPA-style packaging

2011-01-20 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:17:27 -0600 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW On Wed Jan 19 2011 Ted Zlatanov wrote: A rewrite is the worst case, where you can't find the original contributor or they are not willing to assign the copyright to the FSF. RW Some pieces of BBDB in their original

Re: BBDB ELPA-style packaging

2011-01-19 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 07:24:18 -0600 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW On Fri Dec 17 2010 Ted Zlatanov wrote: You should decide: - do you want to take patches from Emacs or keep them separate? RW I'll be happy to take patches from anybody, if they help to fix bugs RW in the code

Re: suppression of uninteresting mail addresses

2011-01-19 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:36:57 -0600 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW At some point in time each MUA interface of BBDB used slightly RW different ways of handling the suppression of uninteresting mail RW addresses. RW - the VM interface used vm-summary-uninteresting-senders RW - the

BBDB ELPA-style packaging (was: ChangeLog 2010-12-15)

2010-12-17 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:08:02 -0600 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW On Thu Dec 16 2010 Ted Zlatanov wrote: Roland, thank you for your work. I'd like to package your version of BBDB as `bbdb3' and put it in the Emacs GNU ELPA package repository. I'd like to call it `bbdb3' because

Re: ChangeLog 2010-12-15

2010-12-16 Thread Ted Zlatanov
Roland, thank you for your work. I'd like to package your version of BBDB as `bbdb3' and put it in the Emacs GNU ELPA package repository. I'd like to call it `bbdb3' because your version is pretty different from BBDB 2.x and thus users will expect those changes when they install it. Would all of

Re: BBDB Questions

2010-03-31 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:13:36 +0100 Eraldo Helal era...@eraldo.org wrote: EH auto-create on sending (only) EH -- EH Just as it is the case in gmail, I want to add to bbdb every contact I EH send an email to. EH When receiving mail, I want to only update the contacts in

noticing alternative names

2008-05-08 Thread Ted Zlatanov
Right now, BBDB in Gnus will ask me, if it notices a new name for an exsiting e-mail address, if I want to add the name (y/n), then if I want to add it as an alternative (y/n). I think it would be better if that prompt was: Do you want to use NAME instead of OLD, as an alternative to it, ignore

Re: change name annoyance

2008-04-21 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:08:20 +0900 William Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WX Say my full address is: Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED]. If someone send mail WX using [EMAIL PROTECTED], then in Gnus, it asks me *every time* whether to WX Change name Foo Bar to abc? when I open that mail. Could this be WX

Re: change name annoyance

2008-04-21 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:37:14 +0200 Uwe Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted == Ted Zlatanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:08:20 +0900 William Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WX Say my full address is: Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED]. If someone send mail WX using [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: nnimap-folder-list-from-bbdb almost

2005-02-25 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On February 23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hm I am not sure, that I understand: (eval-expression '(my:nnimap-folder-list-from-bbdb) nil) gives me ((From [EMAIL PROTECTED] testimap)) but I want that it returns (From [EMAIL PROTECTED] testimap)

Re: nnimap-folder-list-from-bbdb almost

2005-02-25 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but here in Xemacs (21.4.16 no mule debian unstable) this does not work. I might file a bug report. Or the thing is called differently in Xemacs C-h i calls up info in GNU Emacs. Consult the XEmacs docs for the corresponding command to

Re: possible bug in bbdb-search-simple: gnus, spam-split and bbdb

2004-12-17 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (bbdb-search-simple nil who) Ronan It does actually use this function, if you trace down the chain of Ronan calls. However, I can't actually see offhand why it'd fail a Ronan case-insensitive search. Can you set a debug

Re: possible bug in bbdb-search-simple: gnus, spam-split and bbdb

2004-12-15 Thread Ted Zlatanov
in the bbdb database like this Net: [EMAIL PROTECTED] But [EMAIL PROTECTED] Will be recognised either with Net: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or Net: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I discussed this with Ted Zlatanov, who actually maintains spam.el of gnus and he told me that the bbdb based

Re: caching the BBDB records for fast lookups

2004-04-05 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On March 4, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The problem with the code above is that when spam-cache-lookups is set, only the primary net address is found in the BBDB. Might I suggest you dump out the value of bbdb-hashtable or your spam cache

alternating record faces?

2003-10-09 Thread Ted Zlatanov
Very often in accounting and other printouts, records of data will have alternating background faces, for instance grey and white. This helps distinguish between sequential lines that don't belong to the same record. Could the BBDB record display do something similar? This (an alternating face

Re: Warnings when byte-compiling spam.el

2003-01-07 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Tue, 07 Jan 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Zlatanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While compiling the end of the data in file /csa/forum/emerick/gnus/lisp/spam.el: ** The following functions are not known to be defined: spam-BBDB-register-routine, bbdb-create-internal, spam-enter