Re: China RFID tracking people

2003-06-06 Thread Jan Coffey
Computer can you tell me the location of Gordy LaForge? --- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.com.com/2009-1088-984352.html?tag=fd_rndm#38 China raises the red tag RFID tags aren't just for tracking consumer goods any more. The Chinese Communist Party is experimenting with

Re: China RFID tracking people

2003-06-06 Thread Jan Coffey
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.com.com/2009-1088-984352.html?tag=fd_rndm#38 China raises the red tag RFID tags aren't just for tracking consumer goods any more. The Chinese Communist Party is experimenting with tagging and tracking people. Computer can you tell me the

RE: Br!n: Janelle

2003-06-06 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Janelle was the first female alpha-mail on the list and was the third listowner with Hector and Julia and later with Nick and Julia. I was going to say something about this but then I forgot

Re: China RFID tracking people

2003-06-06 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 15:43 2003-06-05 -0500, Julia wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 09:20 AM 6/5/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: --- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.com.com/2009-1088-984352.html?tag=fd_rndm#38

Re: China RFID tracking people

2003-06-05 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: --- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I think the post-line isn't correct for my snippage, so I'm putting little tags for who I think wrote...] You are correct [F] http

RE: Brin: Brin 9/11 statement shown accurate again

2003-06-06 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one here has mentioned non-lethal weapons. That's becouse if someone invades you home and you taze them they can bring civil suits against you for decades. If you kill them, end of story. = _

Re: L3: World cancer death rates have increased...

2003-06-06 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Harney wrote: Regardless of that though, you still have the problem of cooked meat having far more carcinogens than vegetables. That may depend on how you cook it. If what I've read recently is believable, boiled meat has less in

Re: L3: World cancer death rates have increased...

2003-06-07 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: --- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Harney wrote: Regardless of that though, you still have the problem of cooked meat having far more carcinogens than vegetables. That may depend on how you

Re: newspapers proclaiming people dead again

2003-06-07 Thread Jan Coffey
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/stromobit1.html Two months after TSG discovered pre-prepared obituaries for Ronald Reagan, Bob Hope, and other notable figures sitting on an easily accessible CNN web server, we've found another premature death

RE: The Geek Test

2003-05-30 Thread Jan Coffey
58+ --- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting that so far nobody on this list is any higher than low 40% Geekiness. I'm not sure if that's a bad thing or a good thing... I passed it along to

Re: The Geek Test

2003-05-30 Thread Jan Coffey
You know, they included both Ausbergers and Dyslexic features in the test. When I was in school their no one I knew had ever heard of Ausbergers, but the nerd/geek clicks knew the differnece. Unfortunatly the words have been flipped now thanks to movies like Revenge of the Nurds, but the pattern

Re: Scouted: Hormone Replacement Therapy started after age 65increases dementia risk

2003-05-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:40 PM 5/28/03 -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote: sigh HRT, at least with PremPro, actually increases the risk of developing Alzheimer's-type dementia, as well as ischemic stroke. So our (=men's) choices are to have to live with a woman

Re: The Borg are coming!

2003-05-30 Thread Jan Coffey
Opinions: http://www.newamericancentury.org/ ??? --- Han Tacoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You will be assimilated! The US has every intention of deploying weapons in space, ultimately in order to control access to the atmosphere and outer space, and to be able to hit land and sea-based

RE: Handsome men 'most virile'

2003-05-30 Thread Jan Coffey
But what is the source of the connection? It could be that the more attention a man gets from women, the more Verile his sperm is. It could be that appearance style and voice style are usually passed on together meaning that the men have learned which voices go with which look without actually

Re: The Borg are coming!

2003-05-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29 May 2003 at 15:25, The Fool wrote: From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Opinions: http://www.newamericancentury.org/ ??? Fascist power behind the throne of dictator Bush. Top Posting is BAAD. Since when did this turn

Re: teflon

2003-05-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About the only way such temperatures are likely to be reached in an actual kitchen is if someone starts cooking something and then goes off and forgets about it and it boils dry and emits toxic particles and gases linked to hundreds,

Re: The Borg are coming!

2003-05-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And welcome to the list! (I don't think I have seen your name here until recently, so I'm guessing that either you recently subscribed or recently came out of lurkdom: If I'm wrong, well, I've been wrong about other things, so simply disregard

Re: The Borg are coming!

2003-05-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This used to bug me a lot, since it makes communications less clear of what exactly they are replying to, but I've given up on worrying about it. The rationale was that they wanted each email to contain a complete archive of the discussion up

Re: WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz

2003-05-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz By David Usborne 30 May 2003 The extraordinary admission comes in an interview with Paul Wolfowitz, the Deputy Defence Secretary, in the July issue of the magazine Vanity Fair. Mr

Re: WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz

2003-05-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz By David Usborne 30 May 2003 The extraordinary admission comes in an interview with Paul Wolfowitz, the Deputy Defence Secretary, in the July issue of the magazine Vanity Fair. Mr

Double post mistake, sorry

2003-05-31 Thread Jan Coffey
= _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

Re: The Borg are coming!

2003-06-01 Thread Jan Coffey
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29 May 2003 at 15:25, The Fool wrote: From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Opinions: http://www.newamericancentury.org/ ??? Fascist

Re: Fasten, then zip or . . .

2003-06-01 Thread Jan Coffey
--- G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Garibaldi is asking about how one fastens pants, fasten then zip or zip then fasten. Turns out both are fasten first kind of guys; makes me feel good, so am I. If you zip first then fasten, sometimes you got to do a bit of re-zipping. Still do it that

Re: Brin: Brin 9/11 statement shown accurate again

2003-06-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a big difference between pen knives - which can be overcome by a roused majority if brandished by an idiot... and guns which allow an idiot to cow a majority. Ture: ...however, the other side is Without firearms people still kill. Without

Re: Brin: Brin 9/11 statement shown accurate again

2003-06-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone facing me pulls out a knife, unless they're trained with it, it's more dangerous to them than to me. A gun is a different story - any idiot can be dangerous with a gun. That isn't the same for all. A 100 pound woman when confronted by

Re: A PNAC Primer [L3]

2003-06-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.counterpunch.org/weiner05282003.html A PNAC Primer How We Got Into This Mess By BERNARD WEINER ... The talk-show host seemed to gulp, and then replied: If you really can demonstrate all that, you probably can deny George Bush a second term

Re: Brin: Brin 9/11 statement shown accurate again

2003-06-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Brin: Brin 9/11 statement shown accurate again [snip] I think this typifies the murder

Guns was: RE: Brin: Brin 9/11 statement shown accurate again

2003-06-02 Thread Jan Coffey
I'm sitting on this one I guess, but up and on another list so... --- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- [Snip] Back to reality, what do you do? Don't think it can't happen to you, it's happened to me twice. I'd hate to be the firefighter who comes into

Re: A PNAC Primer [L3]

2003-06-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the policy you want to export by military force spin If you want to export W's authoritarian dictatorship to other countries, that really says a lot about you. A spin and an insult. Jan Leaveing Thread Maru =

Re: Bran: Bran 7/11 statement shown accurate again

2003-06-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh I have to strongly disagree. Most breakfast cereals sold at convenience markets are high sugar content because it's very inconvenient when the kids start complaining. Bran flakes just don't sell that well.

Re: Brin: Brin 9/11 statement shown accurate again

2003-06-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I took safety and firing instruction from an Army officer before owning a gun, and practice ~ yearly under competent supervision. If someone again attempts to harm me (or anybody near me), I will not be

RE: Brin: Brin 9/11 statement shown accurate again

2003-06-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: d.brin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 02:26 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Brin: Brin 9/11 statement shown accurate again Yeah! Did anyone pass on my/our best

Re: Janelle

2003-06-04 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 6:08 PM Subject: Re: Brin: Brin 9/11 statement shown accurate again PS... of course we don't know about the

Big Fan of GB: was Re: The Borg are coming!

2003-06-05 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ray Ludenia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Look in at the members page, I'm the guy hovering over Greg Benford ;-) Seems I was so thrilled to meet him I followed him around like a puppy asking silly questions just to be communicating with the man. GB was a most

Re: (Scouted) Jared Diamond on diabetes

2003-06-05 Thread Jan Coffey
--- David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The June 5th issue of _Nature_ has an interesting article by Jared Diamond (_Guns, Germs and Steel_) on diabetes. Here's their blurb: coca-colonization You got to laugh at that! If Diamond et.al. are correct then we are doing ourselves a great

Re: My night . . .

2003-06-05 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 11:13 PM 6/3/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Yes. It's called a tripod . . . -- Ronn! :) OK, I'm not sure how you'd attach one to the binoculars we have. On most ther is a little screw hole on the bottom in

Re: (Scouted) Jared Diamond on diabetes

2003-06-05 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People like me who retain an extremely active metabolism into their 20's need to be careful as well, because you can suddenly surge in weight when you do finally lose it if you're not careful, and in some cases that can lead almost directly to

Re: Are you a model citizen?

2003-06-05 Thread Jan Coffey
I got 6 months only and no fine. But of course, I answered each as if it read as an adult and...they didn't ask the right questions. 87) --- Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Find out just how much of a model citizen you are A word of caution... remember that this is a British website

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - no spoilers

2003-06-07 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes I have far too much time to think about things on the way to work. For example, in the Matrix universe, what functional reason would the machines have for plugging humans into a simulation (besides the obvious of being a plot device)?

Re: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people

2003-06-07 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Han Tacoma wrote: Debbi explains the origins of fish on (Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:22:12 -0700 (PDT)) [..gone snip crazy...] I don't remember all the words it comes from, but IIRC ghoti is an alternative spelling for the sound fish

Re: newspapers proclaiming people dead again

2003-06-07 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:29 AM 6/7/03 -0500, The Fool wrote: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/stromobit1.html Two months after TSG discovered pre-prepared obituaries for Ronald Reagan, Bob Hope, and other notable figures sitting on an easily accessible CNN

Re: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people

2003-06-07 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Han Tacoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and to think that the former could have been spoken if Gutemberg hadn't circa 1450 come up with the printing press. Hay now, Getemberg may have stole that idea from the chinese, but that's no reason to blame him for modern spelling

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - no spoilers

2003-06-07 Thread Jan Coffey
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/7/2003 2:36:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In addition, how does this all work? where does the energy to power the humans come from? We get out energy from food, which inevitably get's it's energy from Sol. So in

Re: Farts Re: World cancer death rates

2003-06-07 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: why dogs and cats generally fart silently, and their theories include: (1) the amount of gas produced is small, but potent, (2) the horizontal orientation of their gastrointestinal system puts less pressure on the anal

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - no spoilers

2003-06-08 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Nunn wrote: For example, in the Matrix universe, what functional reason would the machines have for plugging humans into a simulation (besides the obvious of being a plot device)? Maybe the machines, who presumably were once enslaved by

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - no spoilers

2003-06-08 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea, I guess I am hoping that if they are at least clever enough to steal from philosophy then they are clever enough to steal from Level 13, Brazil, Dark Planet, level 13 (the movie), Max Headroom, etc.

RE: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people

2003-06-08 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: William T Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The only rule we got at school was 'after c', and then one just learned all the exceptions. Everyone has a few words they can't spell I think. One of mine is 'resteraunt'. Oops!

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-08 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Harney wrote: I have been informed today that I have been plonked by one of the listmembers. Which listmember is irrelivant. [snip] If enough people express a desire for me to leave I will do so and never return. The last thing I

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:49 PM 6/8/03 +0100, William T Goodall wrote: On Sunday, June 8, 2003, at 05:17 pm, Reggie Bautista wrote: The Fool and William Goodall react as if that person was posting from a religious extremest perspective, instead of reading

Re: [Janelle]Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? On Monday, June 9, 2003, at 02:29 am, Ronn!Blankenship

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:06 AM 6/9/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: Yes, it is. No, it isn't. Yes, it is! No, it isn't! Yes, it is!! No, it isn't!! YES, IT IS!!! NO, IT ISN'T!!! Times up. What do you mean time is up? I cam in here for a decent contradiction

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: William T Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 6:57 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers On Sunday, June 8, 2003, at 01:09 am, [EMAIL

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now is the energy needed to supply all of these small enough for the system to be sustainable? I doubt it. I agree. The math shows that they could not get enough bodies together to generate the energy required, even if they were quite good at

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail.com wrote: From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 points 1) With the energy needed to extract these, is it still workable? Is the energy needed for mining small enough for the system to be sustainable? 2) The human body will generate energy from

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:29:24PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: Say what? I thought you were an American Standard urinal expert. Didn't you ever read one? I mean, what else do you have to do while you're going? Among a group of friends you might

religion: was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
(Even religion, if anyone wishes.) As a non-practicing Ba'hai extremist I don't really care if we discuss religion or not discuss religion. Can if I could only remember if I am a non-practicing (Ba'hai extremist) or a (non-practicing Ba'hai) extremist =

Toilets was: Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Japanese do low-flow toilets a lot better, because they've been doing them for longer and have had more time to experiment with what works and what doesn't. All the ones in our house are made by Toto. (Insert WoO crack here.) Toto makes the

Re: L3: World cancer death rates have increased...

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is also the possibility that these growth hormones might stimulate already primed cells to transform from pre-cancerous into full-blown malignancy.

Picking apart (Picking apart the Matrix)

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
Why don't you just call me Baghdad Bob of the Brin List Scientific Community! ROTFL Some people just have to do that man, they just can't help themselves, and you have to give it up when they are right, but they do have a tendency to keep pushing to the point that it becomes more about them being

Re: religion: was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/9/2003 4:51:19 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As a non-practicing Ba'hai extremist What type of weapon does a Ba'hai extremist use? A nine pointed nerf shuriken? Well since Ba'hai believe that all

Re: Mobile labs identified as UK-made weather balloon systems

2003-06-10 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'We are being very careful now not to jump to any conclusions about these vehicles' why can't we just take them at their word. They keep saying, we don't yet know. Well, let's stop the flaming until they do know. No-one ever said that we would end the

RE: Mobile labs identified as UK-made weather balloon systems

2003-06-10 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Weather Balloons... and that's what they said at Roswell, too! Nerd From Hell Weather baloon is government code for we don't know. Who was deep throght? Deep throught was a weather balloon. Was their a second shooter? No, it was a weather balloon.

media stratagy meetings: was RE: Mobile labs identified asUK-made weather balloon systems

2003-06-10 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The article is certainly slanted against the Admin's position, but many of the points/questions are valid. But their is no way of proving that Bush was wrong at the time he made those statements (taken out of context as they are). The question

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-10 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 05:37:12PM +0100, Andrew Crystall wrote: You do not chose to be Jewish if your mother is. You are Jewish. But you are not automatically practicing the religion because of your mother. Semantics. Not so hard to comprehend,

Re: Halal and Kosher slaughter 'must end'

2003-06-10 Thread Jan Coffey
--- David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Baker wrote: Andy said: It's a sudden and quick haemorrhage. A quick loss of blood pressure and the brain is instantaneously starved of blood and there is no time to start feeling any pain, said spokesman Dr Majid Katme. If

Re: Halal and Kosher slaughter 'must end'

2003-06-10 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Crystall wrote: On 10 Jun 2003 at 15:04, William T Goodall wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2977086.stm The method of animal slaughter used by Jews and Muslims should be banned immediately, according to an

Re: Scouted: Fake Meat From a Vat

2003-06-10 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps this will solve the kosher/halal killing and slaughterhouses problem http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns3208 (It's an article from December) Tissue engineers are growing fake meat from cell cultures. However, you only

Re: media stratagy meetings: was RE: Mobile labs identified asUK-made weather balloon systems

2003-06-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I snipped massively, particularly where we said basically the same thing. --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the radio address text... http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002

Re: media stratagy meetings: was RE: Mobile labs identified asUK-made weather balloon systems

2003-06-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top-post short version: different definitions, different interpretations - misunderstandings. OK, we're cool, even if we're not on the same page. :) I am not going to reiterate myself by responding to the rest of the post becouse you already

Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 02:08:04PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: Are you really willing to accept anything that is not subject to scientific testing as no more real than God? You are really cheating. You should at least answer that one question I

Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 05:20:00PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: Do you consider yourself a Positivist? If I say no, will you think negatively of me? :-) Ummm, wait while I look it up (I've heard it before but I don't really know what it means, I'm

Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 02:29 am, Erik Reuter wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 05:20:00PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: Do you consider yourself a Positivist? If I say no, will you think negatively of me? :-) Ummm, wait while I

Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-11 Thread Jan Coffey
writen by??? Anyway, this is the mistake of using the evidence that suggested a theory to support the theory. To demonstrate this type of error, Richard Feynmann once walked into the lecture hall and said something like: The most amazing thing happened to me on the way to

Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:05 PM 6/11/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 09:04:49AM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 12:25 AM 6/10/03 -0400, Erik Reuter asked: Does God exist? Yes. (The proof is left as an exercise for the reader.)

Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:55:07PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: It is important however not to neglect the benefit of intuition. Using anecdotal evidence is often appropriate when making decisions, especially in the formation of hypothesis

Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 09:56:38AM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: Of course you can use anecdotal evidence in formulating a theory. The point is, you CANNOT use the SAME data to validate the theory. You are wrong Erik. You can not formulat

Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 11:33:41AM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: Of course Theory is used by _layman_ in place of Hypothesis. But we are not _laymen_ we are scientificaly trained and should use the words appropriatly. Please produce the cite

Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:55:07PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: It is important however not to neglect the benefit of intuition. Using anecdotal evidence is often appropriate when making decisions, especially in the formation of hypothesis. I

Scientific method: was Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re:Plonkworthy?

2003-06-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hypothesis: A tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test its logical or empirical consequences. Theory: A scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena. I would only add

Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 01:25:17PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: --- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:55:07PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: It is important however not to neglect the benefit of intuition. Using

Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik wrote: the·o·ry( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-r, thîr) n. pl. the·o·ries [snip] 6. An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture. Great. Thanks to this discussion, I now have I Have A Theory from the

Re: Scientific method: was Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re:Plonkworthy?

2003-06-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:51 PM 6/12/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hypothesis: A tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test its logical or empirical consequences. Theory: A scientifically

Re: [L3] Communication (was Re: media stratagy meetings)

2003-06-13 Thread Jan Coffey
Trying out some automatic spell checking so if I frell(sp?) any of the previous post, my apologies. --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Essentially we seem to agree on the facts and how things have played out. What we disagree on was the appropriateness of the actions that were

scouted: free speach intimidated to death

2003-06-13 Thread Jan Coffey
While I may not personaly have any use for such substances, and I am split on the efectiveness of the laws in question, I still take issue with such laws as the RAVE act that can be used to intimidate parties from practicing free speech. Even as what most refer to as a concervative I find this

Re: Scientific method: was Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, wasRe:Plonkworthy?

2003-06-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: So Rich, don't blame a lack of documentation for poorly factored code. Instead of If these idiots would just have documented..., think If these idiots would just have written Unit Tests or Contracts, written clear code

Re: Code and documentation (was Re: Scientific method)

2003-06-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Baker wrote: People move on. What's the mean time spent in a job in the software industry: two or three years? In the mid-1990s in graphics, it was 18 months. At least, that's what someone at my husband's company determined when they

Re: Code and documentation (was Re: Scientific method)

2003-06-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan said: Then of course the same people were the ones making convincing sells to the VCs and getting funding for solving NP complete problems with a Turing machine in 6 months. What kind of .com business plan is that?! It has *obvious*

RE: Is it a crime to urge another to commit suicide?

2003-06-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:43 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Is it a crime to urge another to commit suicide? Nick Arnett wrote: Does

Re: Native American Rights RE: Where are the European hypocrites?

2003-06-14 Thread Jan Coffey
--- John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:49 AM 6/13/2003 -0400 Jon Gabriel wrote: Yeah, but there have been Jews in that area since before recorded history and they made up a very large proportion of the population before the Israeli War of Independence. You know, I do

A friendly request JVB

2003-06-14 Thread Jan Coffey
Before you go and trash this message, I would request that you read it to the end. Jeroen van Baardwijk has something he would like to say to this list. I don't know what the rules are about this sort of thing, but I think that you will agree that if there are such rules this should be the

Re: Interpreting language (was RE: A friendly request JVB)

2003-06-15 Thread Jan Coffey
, and I am put-off by his anti-americanism. --- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jan Coffey ... I believe Jeroen to be sincere, and I would like to add my own caution. Sincerity is not the only

Re: Interpreting language (was RE: A friendly request JVB)

2003-06-15 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:08 PM 6/15/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: You still don't get that form jeroen (and other's) perspecitve what was done to him did appear to be abusive. Did you read the copies of his messages I sent you off-list? Do I need to send you

Re: Native American Rights RE: Where are the European hypocrites?

2003-06-15 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipped all but phrases of interest Since no-one else has asked...what do these phrases/words mean? (Maru of course I know) Lenape, spelling I am unsure of, but then there are so many ways to properly

RE: Brin: Stuff for the Gurps Uplift Site.

2003-06-17 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Damon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 08:42 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Brin: Stuff for the Gurps Uplift Site. I too would be interested in this... Too bad

Re: Native American Rights

2003-06-17 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] It means that I produce works of art, music and poetry, and that I can present these works as represintative of the tribe. What else would it mean? I'm sorry, did I offend you by asking this? None was intended

Re: Br!n: Stuff for the Gurps Uplift Site.

2003-06-17 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Adam C. Lipscomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damon wrote: http://www.sjgames.com/miniatures/uplift/index.html Aargh! Gamer unfriendly packaging! Huh? They're sold in a box. How is that unfriendly? I suppose if it was a box that punched you in the nose with a concealed

Re: Br!n: RE: New Br!n Novel?

2003-06-18 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---so how about: A ditto embedded with marshmallow bits that likes to kill other dittos by using a pillow: Kil'n me solftly with his charms. Or one who sings badly and serenades other dittos: Kil'n me

Re: Music (Was: New toy (was :just a dumb guy))

2003-06-18 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I came across this in my lunchtime scanning; it's an attempt to link the type of music one prefers to one's personality: http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/66/79748.htm?printing=true Reflective, complex - classical, jazz, blues, and folk

Re: Segways aren't for everyone

2003-06-19 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:31 PM 6/18/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Bush gets bucked... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/030612/170/4dnhg.html Umm, I thought it was supposed to have a gyroscopic stabilization system so you couldn't

RE: Tech-ish help

2003-06-19 Thread Jan Coffey
Go to file select save as select .html I just did it on pre-formated text and pics, worked fine. --- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Copy and paste it into an HTML editor, such as the one in Mozilla (which is free, if you don't have it). That will probably do better, but you still may

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