SOT: SQL SERVER RESTORE DATABASE

[Phoeun Pha]

Hey guys I set up a new instance of SQL server 2000 on a new machine, and am trying to restore a database from a backup file.I backed up the mdf and ldf file as well.

the ldf that i backed up is 4GB.I was wondering if I needed todo something with that, or if i can just throw thataway.

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RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

[Phoeun Pha]

THat still isn't HARD FACTS.

It could mean 4 ASP servers with 89.2 million asp pages in their apps, and
20 million CF servers with X CFM pages in their apps combined.  I know the
numbers are exxagerated a bit, but u get the drift


-Original Message-
From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?



Trey, I just did a very simple search on Google looked for .cfm got 25.5
million results, .asp 89.2 million, .php 106 million, .jsp 13.6
million.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
Webapper
http://www.webapper.com
Downey CA Office
562.243.6255
AIM - webappermb

Webapper - Making the NET work


-Original Message-
From: Trey Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?


I would challenge your 'Deployed' numbers.

Your 'Facts' don't hold much water with me.

More than 10,000 organizations have purchased ColdFusion
More than 125,000 ColdFusion servers deployed

The average organization purchases and deploys 12.5 licenses of CF?
Where are the numbers of deployment of CFMX? Or how about 5.0+?

Are the dozen licenses we own but are collecting dust being counted in
your numbers?  And how many others like us?

I would be very surprised if 90% of your customer base purchases and
deploys more than 3 servers, and of those, I bet at most 50% are
production.

If you expect us to believe this PR dribble, I think some more
supporting information is needed.  At least a basis from where these
numbers are coming from?

Trey Rouse


 -Original Message-
 From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 6:25 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

 The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this
 on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.

 Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is
around
 12 months, according to those I've discussed it with. We're really
only
 about halfway through the cycle at this time. The overall installed CF
 base is pretty healthy, and growing. Here's a partial list of existing
CF
 sites we use for PR/marketing:
 http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/proven/

 Even considering the upgrade cycle in the enterprise app-server world,
the
 list of CFMX enterprise sites is growing every day. The following are
a
 few of the CFMX sites recently sent to me:

 http://www.ecoprimalquest.com/
 http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?countryid=19languageid=1
 http://www.panasonic.com.au/hometheatre
 http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/ (some CF, some dynamic Flash content, some
 just plain HTML)
 http://www.reservations.broadmoor.com

 We know a lot of enterprise-level customers have upgraded to CFMX and
are
 in the upgrade cycle - but they don't always report back to us when
they
 go live with CFMX, so feel free to send me sites that you know of too!

 In addition to this stuff, consider the ways Macromedia is expanding
the
 CF market:

 *Ground-up rewrite in Java: This expands CF capabilities, as well as
makes
 CF an option to the enterprise-level sites which want the benefits of
 deploying on a the Java platform and the rapid app dev (RAD) offered
by
 CF. It also means current CF customers have a way to move up to the
Java
 platform without requiring they abandon their existing apps (or their
CF
 developers). Admittedly, this has been a challenging release of CF for
 some, but once the dust settles, CF and the CF community will enjoy
this
 huge leap forward.

 *We're working to deliver the information developers need to help them
be
 successful with ColdFusion and our other technology offerings:
 www.macromedia.com/desdev

 *We're tappiing into new markets for CF:

 -With Flash remoting, the HUGE Flash community is getting turned on to
CF.
 While one can purchase Flash remoting for ASP, Flashers taking to CF
 readily because of it's shorter learning curve and RAD capabilities.

 -Dreamweaver users: OK, before you pile on me about this one, I'm not
 trying to debate the CFStudio/HS+ vs. Dreamweaver issue for CFers.
 Dreamweaver is ~80% of the HTML editor market, and these folks are
moving
 into the dynamic application/web app development space in droves.
 Dreamweaver MX makes their entry into the CF arena a snap with its
built
 in server behaviors that cover the most basic stuff, and CF's shorter
 learning curve and tagged based syntax makes CF a very attractive for
 these new application developers.

 *We've delivered innovative products that are more integrated and work
 more smoothly with each other than ever before, offering one-stop
 shopping for industry leading technologies. This also means that we
can
 deliver well integrated technologies, and better information for those
who
 are integrating these various technologies. But we've also worked to
 remain somewhat agnostic with many 

RE: select more columns

[Phoeun Pha]

take off the single quotes on VISITS.  you dont need it

cfquery name=getsomedata datasource=log_stats
select URL count(url) as VISITS, IP_Column, Date_Column
from log_data
group by url
order by visits desc
/cfquery

-Original Message-
From: Robert Orlini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: select more columns



How do I select more columns from within this query?

cfquery name=getsomedata datasource=log_stats
select URL count(url) as 'visits'
from log_data
group by url
order by visits desc
/cfquery

I want to get the date and ip columns but get a syntax error when I add the
fields after the Select statement as:

select logdate, ip, URL count(url) as 'visits'

Thanks.

Robert O.
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RE: select more columns

[Phoeun Pha]

oops sorry u also need to take off URL so it should be like

cfquery name=getsomedata datasource=log_stats
select count(url) as VISITS, IP_Column, Date_Column
from log_data
group by url
order by visits desc
/cfquery

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From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:26 PM
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Subject: RE: select more columns



take off the single quotes on VISITS.  you dont need it

cfquery name=getsomedata datasource=log_stats
select URL count(url) as VISITS, IP_Column, Date_Column
from log_data
group by url
order by visits desc
/cfquery

-Original Message-
From: Robert Orlini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: select more columns



How do I select more columns from within this query?

cfquery name=getsomedata datasource=log_stats
select URL count(url) as 'visits'
from log_data
group by url
order by visits desc
/cfquery

I want to get the date and ip columns but get a syntax error when I add the
fields after the Select statement as:

select logdate, ip, URL count(url) as 'visits'

Thanks.

Robert O.
HWW


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RE: select more columns

[Phoeun Pha]

#DateFormat(Date_Column, mm/dd/)#

-Original Message-
From: Robert Orlini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: select more columns



Thanks! One more thing - the date in the column is formatted as 20021001.
How can I format it so it reads 10/01/2002. I was looking at the dateformat
cmd, but I don't think that is useful. Any ideas? I'm still kind of new to
this...

Robert O.

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From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: select more columns


oops sorry u also need to take off URL so it should be like

cfquery name=getsomedata datasource=log_stats
select count(url) as VISITS, IP_Column, Date_Column
from log_data
group by url
order by visits desc
/cfquery

-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: select more columns



take off the single quotes on VISITS.  you dont need it

cfquery name=getsomedata datasource=log_stats
select URL count(url) as VISITS, IP_Column, Date_Column
from log_data
group by url
order by visits desc
/cfquery

-Original Message-
From: Robert Orlini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: select more columns



How do I select more columns from within this query?

cfquery name=getsomedata datasource=log_stats
select URL count(url) as 'visits'
from log_data
group by url
order by visits desc
/cfquery

I want to get the date and ip columns but get a syntax error when I add the
fields after the Select statement as:

select logdate, ip, URL count(url) as 'visits'

Thanks.

Robert O.
HWW




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RE: Checkbox Value

[Phoeun Pha]

cfif userinfo.worh EQ 1
CFSET checked=Yes
CFELSE
CFSET checked=No
/CFIF


cfinput type=checkbox
name=worh value=1 Checked=#checked#


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From: Jillian Carroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Checkbox Value



I know I'm close on this... this works with radio buttons.

I have a query:

cfquery name=userinfo datasource=#DSN#
SELECT id, username, password, salutation, fname, lname, address, city,
prov, country, pcode, worh, phoneh, phonew, faxh, faxw, email, datebox,
centraladmin, provadmin, trainer, other
FROM users
WHERE id = #userid#
/cfquery

And from the results of this query I want to determine whether a checkbox is
checked. I tried:

Please select if the above is a work address: cfinput type=checkbox
name=worh value=1 cfif userinfo.worh EQ 1checked/cfif

What am I doing wrong?

--
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RE: Checkbox Value

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It's because he put CFIF tags inside a CF TAG.  I dont think that is allowed
and thus Coldfusion couldn't parse it correctly.

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From: Everett, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Checkbox Value



Hard to tell without knowing exactly what behavior you're getting.

Did you look at the HTML source? You want to make sure the HTML itself is
rendering properly. (I see stuff like this all the time as a result of a
missing cfoutput tag, and the tell-tale #s in the HTML are the first
clue.)

You might be running into trouble if the field you're checking for is NULL.
Try this comparison instead: cfif Len(Trim(userinfo.worh)) GT 0 AND
userinfo.worh EQ 1


 -Original Message-
 From: Jillian Carroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:51 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Checkbox Value


 I know I'm close on this... this works with radio buttons.

 I have a query:

 cfquery name=userinfo datasource=#DSN#
 SELECT id, username, password, salutation, fname, lname,
 address, city,
 prov, country, pcode, worh, phoneh, phonew, faxh, faxw,
 email, datebox,
 centraladmin, provadmin, trainer, other
 FROM users
 WHERE id = #userid#
 /cfquery

 And from the results of this query I want to determine
 whether a checkbox is
 checked. I tried:

 Please select if the above is a work address: cfinput type=checkbox
 name=worh value=1 cfif userinfo.worh EQ 1checked/cfif

 What am I doing wrong?

 --
 Jillian



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HTML FORM

[Phoeun Pha]

Hey guys I have an HTML form where people put in their information.

What I want to happen is this.  When they submit the form, have CF write a
html file that looks exactly like the HTML form, except it will have the
data in the fields provided by the submitter.

Any suggestions as howto approach this...

Note:  I tried writing actual HTML in the CFFILE OUTPUT attribute, but CF
couldn't parse that correctly because of tags and quotes in the HTML :(


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RE: Mixing CF and ASP on same server

[Phoeun Pha]

It's really a matter of being able to afford another server.  Otherwise,
nuffin wrong :)

-Original Message-
From: Earl, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 12:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mixing CF and ASP on same server


Is it ok to mix ColdFusion and ASP applications on the same web server or
should they be kept separate on their own servers? Why? Thanks!

George
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RE: 3 Tier Security

[Phoeun Pha]

How about a Class 2 force field around the servers

heh...

The way u have it set up now is wy more secure than most people have it.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 2:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: 3 Tier Security


I am hoping someone can help me out with this.  Maybe I just can't see how
it would work..but anyways we have apps that are going to be accessible
outside our firewall.  We currently have a set-up like this.

Webserver is in dmz with the  ports http/https accessible to the outside
world.  CF code is kept on this server.  Database is completely inside the
firewall.  The firewall is configured to only allow communitcation from the
webserver IP to the SQL IP over a sql port.  There are voices around here
that want to see a 3rd layer or an app server inbetween.  I can't visualize
how this would work?  I think I may just need someone to help me visualize
it.  Anyways taking into consideration that the webserver software is all
patched up and tighened down, the code has been analized to ensure that
there are no holes will adding the extra layer really do any good?

Thanks

Mike


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OT: Technology?

[Phoeun Pha]

When can you call something technology?  Like if I made my forms look
different for each user according to their preference, is that called
technology?  To me it's just a few lines of coding and logic.

The same thing goes with Amazon's One-Click technology.  I am sure most of
us have heard of it, and can easily

here's an excerpt from an article on Zdnet.

The technology behind one-click is surprisingly uncomplicated. Essentially,
shoppers are agreeing to skip several of the review and confirmation steps
of the buying process. Customers set up a one-click account with the address
they want products shipped to and a credit card to pay for it. Newer
versions allow consumers to choose from preset multiple addresses and credit
cards using dropdown menus on product pages.

Since then, however, Amazon has licensed the technology to other companies,
and partners such as Target have made the technology available to even more
shoppers.


They licensed it?!  I mean, sure, the idea was great, but it wasn't some
technological breakthrough...It seems as if you can every little
functionality in your application a a fancy name and call it a technology.
Look!  A form that let's you know if you typed in your email address wrong!
What a technological breakthrough! - And it's no more complicated than
One-Click.

So is the term subjective?  I guess if you get enough lawyers you can call a
pig a horse.


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RE: session logout on browser close

[Phoeun Pha]

Whata re the problems exactly?  Do your clients want the session to end when
they close the browser?  or not?

If they do, then  the body
onunload=window.open('logout.cfm'); deal works great.  No concievable
problem.


-Original Message-
From: Gyrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: session logout on browser close


In the login/logout system I use, I use a timestamp field in the user
accounts DB table, which is updated every request a logged-in user makes.
When they log out, it subtracts the session timeout value (usually 20 mins)
from the timestamp to enable re-login. Of course, the timestamp field is
used when logging in to prevent two people logging into the same account.

This all works pretty well, but a client is asking about having the session
expire when they close a browser. I've seen this covered before, but I've
always noticed people reporting problems with it. Does the whole body
onunload=window.open('logout.cfm'); solution work well? What are the
specific problems, if any?

I'm also wondering whether I should upgrade my 'system' to use client
variables stored in a DB. I gather this is a preferred technique and is more
scaleable. But would it solve any of the above problems? What are the pros
and cons of using client vars in a DB over using session vars? Or am I
comparing apples and oranges?

TIA,

- Gyrus


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RE: Implementing remember me capability

[Phoeun Pha]

First have a cookie named RememberMe.  Its only values are only 1, or 0.  1
being Yes, and 0 being No.

When users choose the RememberMe option, set that cookie to 1, and set
another cookie with some randomly generated unique alphanumeric string.
Call this cookie MyUniqueNum.  Also set the your database to have another
field that will store this alphanumeric and tie it to the login and
password.


n the login page, have the system read the cookie (use javascript to read
it), and if it is set to one, forward them to a page that will do the
following...

Read the MyUniqueNum cookie, then search for it in the table.  U know,
Select Login and Password where alphanumeric equals MyUniqueNum cookie.  And
if a match is found, go ahead and set their client cookies to authenticate
them!





-Original Message-
From: Urs Bertschy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Implementing remember me capability


I have built a role-based login/security-module with client vars in database
storage.

Now I am thinking about implementing a autologon-feature. In the login form
a user can check a remember me checkbox an the app should recognize and
logon the user automatically in any future sessions.

How do you implement that, so that its still safe?

I thought about storing the user date loginName and password (hashed) in a
cookie. But I think this is not really a safe method. What do you think?




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RE: Implementing remember me capability

[Phoeun Pha]

http://www.netkontoret.dk/jscookies.htm

or just go to www.yahoo.com and type in Javascript read cookie!

I don't know the actual script myself, I just know that it can be done! hehe


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From: Susan Hamilton-Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Implementing remember me capability


How do you read the cookie using Javascript?  TIA,

Susan Hamilton Allen
Web Programmer
Pfingsten Publishing, L.L.C.
Seven Hills, OH 44131


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Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Implementing remember me capability

n the login page, have the system read the cookie (use javascript to read
it), and if it is set to one, forward them to a page that will do the
following...


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RE: Session question

[Phoeun Pha]

Session exists across browser windows.  It's the nature of sessions.
Session is not encapsulated in one browser.

But what is the big deal?  Is there a real problem you are having with
sessions existing over browsers?



-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Session question


Over the weekend I noticed a bug in my shopping carts session
management. I don't know how to fix it...

Basically if your within the realms of my cart and the user hits file
new and opens a new window.  We are currently not creating new sessions
but the same session is carried over to the 2nd window.  Can someone
guide me on how to correct this??

Thanks

Kris Pilles

Kris Pilles
Website Manager
Western Suffolk BOCES
507 Deer Park Rd., Building C
Phone: 631-549-4900 x 267
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RE: Session question

[Phoeun Pha]

ermm you don't can't fix it lol.  It's kinda like saying, Boss, there's a
bug in this array.  Everytime I delete an element in the array, the array
elements realign themselves!

It's not a bug!  There's nothing wrong with the session existing across
multiple browsers.  Have you thought of a possible problem this might cause?

But to keep da boss happy, tell him that you have implemented a high level
Mp3 Doo Woppa security code to keep multiple-browser sessions from screwing
up the app.

Easy!





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From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Session question


Well. I don't really see the big deal but since im a morona and
mentioned this issue to my boss now I have to fix it

So, any help would be appreciated.


Thanks

Kris Pilles

Kris Pilles
Website Manager
Western Suffolk BOCES
507 Deer Park Rd., Building C
Phone: 631-549-4900 x 267
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: Session question

[Phoeun Pha]

Well, if this is any assurance...

You're the only person ever to have come across a problem with this non
problem.  COmmon people have been online shopping since forever and no one's
really complained about this sort of problem.  also, anyone so computer
illiterate will probably not mess around with the menu commands.

Look at the reason you gave me.  It's like saying We need to build an
applet on our website that will prevent people of little computer knowledge
from getting confused.  These people keeping going to the start menu and
choosing shutdown for some reason and turning off their monitors and
they're blind.

Bottom line, you can't make anything idiot proof!  This is like one of those
things you're not supposed to be worried about.


-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Session question


LOL...

Well the problem it may cause is that a not so computer literate wants t
sign up for a class opens 2 windows and gets confused and gives up on
our site..

Lol that's a reach

-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Session question


ermm you don't can't fix it lol.  It's kinda like saying, Boss, there's
a bug in this array.  Everytime I delete an element in the array, the
array elements realign themselves!

It's not a bug!  There's nothing wrong with the session existing across
multiple browsers.  Have you thought of a possible problem this might
cause?

But to keep da boss happy, tell him that you have implemented a high
level Mp3 Doo Woppa security code to keep multiple-browser sessions from
screwing up the app.

Easy!





-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Session question


Well. I don't really see the big deal but since im a morona and
mentioned this issue to my boss now I have to fix it

So, any help would be appreciated.


Thanks

Kris Pilles

Kris Pilles
Website Manager
Western Suffolk BOCES
507 Deer Park Rd., Building C
Phone: 631-549-4900 x 267
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]







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RE: Session question

[Phoeun Pha]

rarrarar, if you must.

You can write javascript to check the name of a window.  You should have a
javascript in your application that checks for another window with the same
name.  If it does find one with the same name, it should close ITSELF, and
it should only run once.  So lets say I am on that page right now, and I
open a new window.  That window will close itself immediately because it
sees another window with the same name!

I havent messed with window manipulation for a while, so check out
www.yahoo.com and do a search for Javascript Window Manipulate.


Man, the number of people who will run into that problem of thinking more
changes have been made will probably be .0008 hehe.  I don't sugest you go
with this route, because there are tech savvy people who like to use 2
windows at once within the same application.  For example, I was working on
an app that has a list of email addresses, and a form for sending email.  I
wanted to send mail to a couple of those email addresses, so I opened one
window that had the list of the addresses, and another window where I
navigated to the email form section.  And just did copy and paste.  It beats
having to click back and forth!





-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Session question


Ok Heres a better example


We are rebuilding our accounting system with CF/Oracle... Now if this
same issue occurs and lets say 2 sets of changes are made in each
window... The user thinks 4 changes have been made but actually only 2
will be saved


I guess if I open up the accounting system app in a modul I can avoid
this

Well I guesss your right...

Thanks for talkjing som logic into me

-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 12:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Session question


Well, if this is any assurance...

You're the only person ever to have come across a problem with this non
problem.  COmmon people have been online shopping since forever and no
one's really complained about this sort of problem.  also, anyone so
computer illiterate will probably not mess around with the menu
commands.

Look at the reason you gave me.  It's like saying We need to build an
applet on our website that will prevent people of little computer
knowledge from getting confused.  These people keeping going to the
start menu and choosing shutdown for some reason and turning off their
monitors and they're blind.

Bottom line, you can't make anything idiot proof!  This is like one of
those things you're not supposed to be worried about.


-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Session question


LOL...

Well the problem it may cause is that a not so computer literate wants t
sign up for a class opens 2 windows and gets confused and gives up on
our site..

Lol that's a reach

-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Session question


ermm you don't can't fix it lol.  It's kinda like saying, Boss, there's
a bug in this array.  Everytime I delete an element in the array, the
array elements realign themselves!

It's not a bug!  There's nothing wrong with the session existing across
multiple browsers.  Have you thought of a possible problem this might
cause?

But to keep da boss happy, tell him that you have implemented a high
level Mp3 Doo Woppa security code to keep multiple-browser sessions from
screwing up the app.

Easy!





-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Session question


Well. I don't really see the big deal but since im a morona and
mentioned this issue to my boss now I have to fix it

So, any help would be appreciated.


Thanks

Kris Pilles

Kris Pilles
Website Manager
Western Suffolk BOCES
507 Deer Park Rd., Building C
Phone: 631-549-4900 x 267
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]









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OT: Unlimited bandwidth

[Phoeun Pha]

Is there a coldfusion host that offers unlimited bandwidth?

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Love [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Java and Verisign


Try this for your JVM path (it's looking for the dll):
Java Virtual Machine Path: C:\Program
Files\JavaSoft\JRE\1.3.1_04\bin\hotspot\jvm.dll

+---+
Bryan Love
  Macromedia Certified Professional
  Internet Application Developer
  Database Analyst
TeleCommunication Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+---+

...'If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have
peace'...
- Thomas Paine, The American Crisis



-Original Message-
From: John Jonathan Kopanas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Java and Verisign


This is my first time using a Java custom tag so I would appreciate if
someone tell me what I am doing wrong.

notes:
- I am using CFX_PayFlowPro custom tag from VeriSign
- Client is running CF 4.5.1 SP 2

CF ADMINISTRATION SETTINGS

Java Virtual Machine Path: C:\Program Files\JavaSoft\JRE\1.3.1_04
Class Path: c:\CFusion\Java\Classes (this is where VeriSign.jar and
CFXPayFlowPro.class are)
CFX Jar Path: C:\CFUSION\Java\classes

CFX_TAG SETTINGS

Tag Name: CFX_PAYFLOWPRO
Class Name: CFXPayFlowPro

The error message I get is:

The JVM library could not be found. Please check if the file specified in
the ColdFusion Administrator actually exists.

Does anyone know what is causing this error and how I can resolve it?
Thanks.


John Jonathan Kopanas





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RE: Preventing User from Re-submitting Add Record Form

[Phoeun Pha]

I first thought that this was an issue with people clicking the submit
button twice

but it's just another case of THINGS YOU CAN'T CONTROL.

Here is something you can do.  On that add new member page, write a
javascript to clear all the fields, you know, when the page loads (ex.  use
onload event)

That way, when the user clicks back to the page, everything will be cleared
from the form, and they can't submit anything! :0)

How does that sound?



-Original Message-
From: Bob Haroche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 3:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Preventing User from Re-submitting Add Record Form


I've a simple membership app which allows a user to add a new member
record. Once the record is added, the user is sent to a page
displaying the results of the data provided. If the user has inputted
incorrect data, this confirmation page has a link to update the newly
added record. That's all fine.

But here's the problem: if the user instead uses the browser back
button, they're returned to the Add New Record page where they can
change the information previously provided. Once they re-submit that
form, of course, the original record is not updated but instead a
second, new record is created.

How do I best prevent the user from re-submitting the Add New Member
form when what they really need to do is use the Edit Member record
form.

A google search reveals the existence of a Submit Once CF custom
tag, which might help(?), but it's no longer available on the MM site.

TIA.

Regards,
Bob Haroche
O n P o i n t  S o l u t i o n s
www.OnPointSolutions.com


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RE: CFMX - Slow, why?

[Phoeun Pha]

Big deal.  I can't tell the difference between 1 MS and 10,000 MS.

The delay is there in the beginning because the code has to be compiled
first.  It's a annoying :)


When I was a young boy, I walked 5 miles barefoot to school, in the snow!

-Original Message-
From: Sean Daniels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 3:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX - Slow, why?


I have just finished upgrading my dev box to CFMX. After going through
a number of issues (search engine friendly URLs, problems with the
installer), I finally have working sites again - but the debug
execution times are simply unacceptable. I have 20 apps on this box
where every page execution was routinely 50 - 500 ms under 4.5 and 5.0.
Under MX, just about every page takes upwards of 2,000 - 20,000(!) ms.
I should note this is only the first load of a given page - subsequent
loads are normal.

Is there some really obvious thing I'm overlooking? Has anyone else had
this experience? This is a Win2K box with 256MB RAM and a 650mhz
processor. Again, under CF 5.0 everything ran like clockwork.

And, does anyone know of a program to allow CFMX licenses to be
downgraded to CF 5.0? I need UDF and such, but this MX stuff is turning
out to be a headache, especially this first time page loads deal.


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RE: Error trying to create an Array

[Phoeun Pha]

Usually coldfusion gives a reason for the error, instead of just stating the
error.  Now whats the reason??

-Original Message-
From: Larry Juncker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Error trying to create an Array


Can anyone tell me why I keep getting the following error:

An error occurred while evaluating the expression:

temp = ArraySet(LineItemarray,1,6,)

Error near line 47, column 7

the code that I am trying to run is below:

!--- Make an array ---
cfset LineItemArray = ArrayNew(2)

cfloop from=1 to=#LineItemCt# index=itemRow
 #ListGetAT(Cust_ItmLst,ItemRow,'~')#BR

!--- ArrayToList will not function properly if the Array has not been
  initialized with ArraySet ---
cfset temp = ArraySet(LineItemArray,1,6,)

!--- set some elements ---
cfset LineItemArray[itemRow][1] = #ListGetAt(Cust_ItmLst,1,' ')#
cfset LineItemArray[itemRow][2] = 

!--- Find out where PackageSize is located in this string ---
cfset PackageSizePOS = ListFindNoCase(Cust_ItmLst,PackageSize:, )
cfloop from=2 to=#Evaluate(PackageSizePOS-1)# index=ct
 cfset LineItemArray[itemRow][2] = #LineItemArray[itemRow][2]# ' ' 
#ListgetAt(Cust_ItmLst,ct,' ')#
/cfloop

cfset LineItemArray[itemRow][3] =
#ListGetAt(Cust_ItmLst,PackageSizePOS+1,' ')#
cfset LineItemArray[itemRow][4] =
#ListGetAt(Cust_ItmLst,PackageSizePOS+2,' ')#
cfset LineItemArray[itemRow][5] =
#ListGetAt(Cust_ItmLst,PackageSizePOS+3,' ')#
cfset LineItemArray[itemRow][6] =
#ListGetAt(Cust_ItmLst,PackageSizePOS+5,' ')#

/cfloop

!--- is it an array? ---

  PIs this an array? #IsArray(LineItemArray)#
  PIt has #ArrayLen(LineItemArray)# elements.
  PContents: #ArrayToList(LineItemArray)#
!--- the array has expanded dynamically to six elements
with the use of ArraySet, even though we only set three values ---


Any quick anwsers on this would be GREATLY Appreciated.



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RE: Getting a business off the ground

[Phoeun Pha]

That depends on what kind of business you're going into, and how well you
market your product.  At least you already have something to sell!  What is
it by the way?



Oh, a couple of my college buddies and I decided to get into the web
business.  You know, your typical web solutions business.  They are a dime a
dozen!  And we knew that we won't go anywhere being a typical company.  So
we SPECIALIZE.  Sure, you can have your business say you can do EVERYTHING.
But I think customers are more comfortable with businesses's who have
specialization.  Our business specializes in developing intranet
applications for medical institutions, especially for pharmacies.

P.S.  My friends also had good financial banking from their families.  The
bad thing was we mismanaged the project (time/money bid) that we barely made
profit.



-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Getting a business off the ground


I have started my own company a while ago and am hitting a brick wall on how
to get it off the ground. It's hard to do absolutely everything myself, so I
throw this out to some of you that have your own company. What did you do?
Did you start with money? Hire people? Do everything yourself? Have a kick
ass product that got you off the ground? Cold called people? Sent out a
mailing? What did you do? I have an application I made that is pretty
polished and am just looking for ideas on how to get this thing out the door
to people as either a service or as a stand alone app people can buy. WHAT
DO I DO!! Anyways, sorry for the OT, flame away, but I figure there has
to be a couple other people that could benefit from this discussion, let me
know if this needs to move over to cf-community so I can sign up for it.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer Extraordinaire
Dixon Ticonderoga Company
http://www.dixonusa.com

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RE: Looking for mail tag - submit form emails contents without all the code...

[Phoeun Pha]

Man it only takes a few minutes.  stop being lazy! =)

-Original Message-
From: Steven A. del Sol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Looking for mail tag - submit form emails contents without all
the code...


I am sure there is something so simple to this...

I would like to send the users form variables to a contact email.  Is there
a tag to do this?  Without writing some long old CFMAIL?

Steve


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RE: Looking for mail tag - submit form emails contents without al l the code...

[Phoeun Pha]

Uncle Ben...HAHAHA



-Original Message-
From: Everett, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 3:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Looking for mail tag - submit form emails contents without
al l the code...


Or you could just copy the sample CF_MailForm tag from the Advanced
ColdFusion 4.0 Application Development book (p. 123). Hey wait! All the
code examples are on the CD that comes with the book!

You do have Uncle Ben's book, don't you?

 -Original Message-
 From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 3:58 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Looking for mail tag - submit form emails
 contents without
 all the code...


 Man it only takes a few minutes.  stop being lazy! =)

 -Original Message-
 From: Steven A. del Sol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:23 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Looking for mail tag - submit form emails contents
 without all
 the code...


 I am sure there is something so simple to this...

 I would like to send the users form variables to a contact
 email.  Is there
 a tag to do this?  Without writing some long old CFMAIL?

 Steve




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OT: SQL Server Export

[Phoeun Pha]

Hey guys,

whenever i do an export of tables from one DB to another, it never copies
the table attributes, such as default value, for example.  I have many
instances where the default value is needed.  Can someone let me know how to
do this?  maybe i missed a step in the DTS


thanx


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OT: Virus in JPG???

[Phoeun Pha]

Hey guys, I have been having virus problems lately, especially this backdoor
trojan virus.  It appears to be embedded in a JPG file!  How can that be?! I
thought viruses only worked in executables and scripts. heh.  My apps are
crapping out on me as well.  Only thing that works is IE and winamp!



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RE: Hiding Source Code

[Phoeun Pha]

hey PaulAs long as those values are not Credit Card number or something
compromising, don't worry about it.  Anyhow, variable values are always
showing up on the dang page.  That's what non-static web pages are all
about, eh?  Also what is the variable whose value is being shown?  Can you
provide sample code?


-Original Message-
From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 2:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Hiding Source Code


The main reason I am trying to hide the code is that through some pages I
have variable's values being past and for whatever reason the variable's
value seems to be displaying in the source code, that is what I am trying to
hide, the variable's value. I'm not sure why the variable's value would show
up in the source code in the 1st place? Possibly I should simply take
another approach as to how I am passing the variables?

Thanks for your input

-Paul


-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 2:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Hiding Source Code


Ah, hide html?  I don't expect there is a way of doing that.  The browser
needs the html code to render the visible page.  No HTML no webpage.

I did run a cross a guy a few years back that was overly afraid that his
html code would be stolen and reused on other sites. So he found a html tool
that would remove all extra spaces and all line brakes.  The html code would
be turned into 1 really long line of code.  I found that almost any program
like dream weaver or CF studio would fix his code so I could read it easily.

Any reason you are looking to hide your HTML?

Mark W. Breneman
-Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
-Network / Web Server Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770

-Original Message-
From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Hiding Source Code


I apologize my question should of been more clear. I realize that the CF
code is hidden, but I was hoping coldfusion could somehow block out the HTML
code as well?




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RE: Hiding Source Code

[Phoeun Pha]

URL variables are good if the values are non compromising, and as long as
you validate them :)  And no, you cannot hide HTML code.  Oh, sure, yeah,
you can set it in IIS to not reveal source code, and users with IE won't be
able to see it.  But then they'll just open up Mozilla and use that instead
to view the code!



-Original Message-
From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 2:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Hiding Source Code


Thanks Charlie setting the variables I want to remain hidden as Sessions,
rather then passing them as URL variables would be a better approach.
As for the hiding HTML Code I was curious to know if it could be done.
Thanks for all the ideas.

-Paul

Paul writes:

 The main reason I am trying to hide the code is that through some pages I
have variable's values being past and for whatever reason the variable's
value seems to be displaying in the source code, that is what I am trying to
hide, the variable's value. I'm not sure why the variable's value would show
up in the source code in the 1st place? Possibly I should simply take
another approach as to how I am passing the variables?

 Thanks for your input


Another approach is what you need.  How are you passing them now?  hidden
form fields?  sounds like you need to set some session or client vars.

charlie




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RE: Infinite loop... (continued)

[Phoeun Pha]

Where's the code, bro?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Infinite loop... (continued)


Alright, I give up... for whatever reason this is spinning the page into 
an infinite loop.  It half renders and then, blamf, it's gone again and 
half renders then, bamf, it's gone again... then...  good lord.  I'm 
seriously beginning to wonder if anyone at Macromedia has actually tested 
CFMX on a celeron pc.  I've done this code many times elsewhere and had no 
problems, but ... @ work, we just got new dev machines and ... it's just 
spinning out of control.

The code:


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RE: Cold Fusion MX Flash MX Applications

[Phoeun Pha]

I believe flash has its uses, but it shouldn't and CAN'T replace certain
things a browser can offer, like a BACK button!  And it's also time
consuming to write actionscript to make it mimic a browser.  The only thing
good about using flash is animation and a really good looking interface.  I
am not saying it is possible.  In fact, it's quite possible to make it mimic
a browser.  But whats the point?

And also, since flash is graphic based, and you are displaying alot of
records, moving around can be really slow on decent computers.

I saw a totally Flash interface that allows you to view your picture album.
The only benefit it has over a regular browser interface is good looking
interface and animation.

I like to think of it as using javascript to keep a session information, and
also javascript arrays to store shopping cart items.  Yes, it could be done
through javascript, but it's tideous, time consuming, and at some point,
faulty.  Imagine having to pass arrays throughout the session!  Let
javascript do what javascript do best.

Also, I remember one time my friend made a picture using table cells and
colours!  It was amazing!  the cells were one pixel each and he
painstakingly copied the colour hexes from an actual picture.  It's cool,
but not that cool.

Flash was there for visual/interactive purposes.  And yes, MM has put many
web developing oriented features into it, and that is great!  But it has its
limits. 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cold Fusion MX  Flash MX Applications


Anyone making use of Flash MX for web application interfaces?
I've been building web applications using the traditional CF approach
for a couple of years, and the benefits that a Flash interface offers
of not having to jump around pages to process and refresh data is certainly
appealing.  Especially to clients who are used to computer-based
applications
that don't require moving from screen to screen to refresh data.

If you're building Flash-based applications, what do you think of the
approach so far?
Pros/cons?

Thanks for your insights...

Rick



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Women programmers

[Phoeun Pha]

I think I asked about this a year or two ago, but are more women getting
into hardcore programming, or at least, developing (hehe)?  A few years ago
web design was dominated by guys (no stats, just almost sure it was that
way), and now I'm bumpin into all these women designers.  I guess it was
inevitable... they're always painting the room pink and shops better clothes
for you than you do!  :)

So will we see that trend in programming to?
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RE: Looping depending on CFIF Statement

[Phoeun Pha]

CF doesn't allow you to put un-closed tags in CFIF statements like that.
Tell me exactly what you want to happen so i can help yo structure it the
right way



-Original Message-
From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Looping depending on CFIF Statement


Hi all,

Any idea why I can't seem to wrap CFLOOP tags in CFIF statements?

I keep getting errors as though CF is totally ignoring the CFIF
statement and still parsing the /CFLOOP tag.

Here is some simple sample code:

CFIF LoopYes EQ True 

cfloop index=count from=1 to=10 

/CFIF

cfloop index=theindex from=1 to=2
The index Is CFOUTPUT#theindex# /CFOUTPUT
/cfloop

CFIF LoopYes EQ True 

/cfloop 
/cfif

Of course LoopYes is NOT equal to True.




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RE: Warning: Page has Expired Error - How do I get rid of this?

[Phoeun Pha]

that is wierd i have never come across that problem, unless it was an upload
form



-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Warning: Page has Expired Error - How do I get rid of this?


Hi Ali,

If you replace your form method=post with method=get on the page prior
to the page you get this message on, this will submit the form as a series
of url variables and you'll stop seeing this message...

so...

formpage1-formpage2-detailpage

You get the message when you hit back from detailpage, so the form you need
to edit is on formpage1.

hth


Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

www.turnkey.to
954-776-0046

 Hello Folks,

 I have a page that is has a form with a drop down list populated from a
 query. Once a selection is made and submitted the selected value is
 posted to a second page that shows further information from the selected
 item. Pretty easy, right? Well every time I click on the back button to
 go back to the previous page I get the following error:

 Warning: Page has Expired The page you requested was created using
 information you submitted in a form. This page is no longer available.
 As a security precaution, Internet Explorer does not automatically
 resubmit your information for you.

 To resubmit your information and view this Web page, click the Refresh
 button.

 So I click refresh and its back, but this is annoying.

 What do I have to do to make my pages not show this warning/error? I don
 have a link on the second page back to the first, but a lot of users
 will click on the back button.

 Thanks,
 Ali Daniali

 

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DNS question

[Phoeun Pha]

Hey guys

I have a site that was registered through Verio (verio.com).  And now I am
going to have ti hosted on a new site, and my host has given me the IP
address for the site.  However, the host doesn't have a DNS service.

What do I do?  Right now, the verio guys are my DNS service.  DO i call them
to tell them to make an update to their DNS information?  can u do that?

Thanks
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RE: Women programmers

[Phoeun Pha]

Agreed.

However, we as men with built-in insecurities (a woman told me that!), I
have to say that if more women do start getting into programming, or
outnumbering us, we'll have to create something new, just so we can stay on
top.  Maybe by calling them developers or something.






-Original Message-
From: Mitko Gerensky-Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Women programmers


My 2 cents:

Women can be as good programmers as men! Any other claim is profiling...

My wife in fact had MCSD before moving to management and she still loves
database programming. I've worked with marvelous women programmers and a
classmate of mine is working on her Ph.D. in C.Sc. in network security
programming -- she can program in C++ the way I would never be able to.

At the same time, yes, there are many women in graphics design, particularly
moving from print design to web design.

What is most important is to encourage girls to study computers so that they
have marketable skills.

The world, and the work place, would be a better place when there is a
better balance between men and women. Women can be particularly good in
collaboration, from which we men could greatly benefit and learn :-)

Mitko

The world of humanity is possessed of two wings: the male and the female.
So long as these two wings are not equivalent in strength, the bird will not
fly. Until womankind reaches the same degree as man, until she enjoys the
same arena of activity, extraordinary attainment for humanity will not be
realized; humanity cannot wing its way to heights of real attainment. When
the two wings . . . become equivalent in strength, enjoying the same
prerogatives, the flight of man will be exceedingly lofty and
extraordinary.
Baha'i Faith

http://us.bahai.org/equality/wings.html

-- Original Message --
From: Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:31:34 -0400

 I think I asked about this a year or two ago, but are more women getting
 into hardcore programming, or at least, developing (hehe)?

{feminine} Yes!

 web design was dominated by guys (no stats, just almost sure it was that
 way), and now I'm bumpin into all these women designers.

Now you're saying design (if you mean graphics, I consider that different
skills from hardcore programming).  What I've seen is most women who are in
web work (hehe how's that for tackling the label?) are more in the design
aspect of things or content or management.  I personally am more into
database, scripting, programming, architecture {insert preferred terms for
coding, scripting, etc. here}.  I actually find it really annoying when I
walk in new to a team and get the assumption that I'm there to make the
application look pretty or design/develop the GUI.

- Original Message -
From: Phoeun Pha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: Women programmers


A few years ago
I guess it was
 inevitable... they're always painting the room pink and shops better
clothes
 for you than you do!  :)

 So will we see that trend in programming to?
 


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OT: hostcentric

[Phoeun Pha]

Are they any good  is CFdynamics better?
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RE: [OT] Re: Women programmers (OT Threads)

[Phoeun Pha]

Jon, what does this have to do with factual discussion.  No more OT from
you!

heh

Sorry, I was the one who made the some of the original OT posts, but did not
expect it to drag on for that long.



-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: [OT] Re: Women programmers (OT Threads)


I love a few valuable OT threads as much as anyone else, but I think
the nontechnical discussion is beginning to overwhelm the actual
coding discussion. Some stats for everyone's perusal.

Out of the 100 posts 33 have had a very little factual discussion,
mainly from the Developer Vs Programmer topics, the Women programmers
topic, and a discussion of where to theoretically find a theoretical
Net mailing list. Some of the OT threads are entertaining, and a
little educational, but _personally_ I don't think they are cf-talk
material. If one included the Browser stats (Evolt is a great place
for discussing this kind of stuff) thread the number of OT threads
reaches 41%. I didn't actually read through the all the topics that
looked on topic, but imagine 41% is low, as there were a few threads
that were way OT, but did include something valuable content that I
didn't count.

Out of the last 100 posts I saw 3 or 4 very valid CF question that
were not even replied to as of yet. I'd love to see everyone get into
a longwinded talk about CFC Theory, but looking at the volume of mail
the definitions of programmer and developer (www.dictionary.com) hold
more interest to the people on the list than CFC's.
Keeping cf-talk a valuable resource is an important goal, I hope we
all can agree on that at least.

Anyway, that's my .02...

Discuss (or not) ;-)

jon

ps. By the time I got done typing this the last 100 posts have skewed
even more OT...


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Semi OT question: Skills for jobs

[Phoeun Pha]

Hey guys and gals and code monkeys, it's come to my attention that Employers
are looking for someone with a wide range of skills

For example, one required that you know C++, Coldfusion, ASP, Dreamweaver,
VBScript, Java, Adobe Photoshop, Macromedia Flash...

Oh, and it would be a PLUS if you know nuclear physics and how to cook
french cuisine.

Jokes aside, is this fair?  I mean I know few people who know all of these
at once.  Few...like 1!!!  Are these employers just dropping skills without
considering their relationship?

And also, there are sites like freelance.com or elance.com that allows
coders to bid on projects, and the $$ offered on these projects are crazy.
FOr example, someone wanted an auction site like ebay.  Max bid allowed was
$200.  I contacted the project poster, and his answer was..well, since
there is so many free code you can get online, I assume the programmer only
has to put them together to make the auction site.  How does this make you
feel?  What is the percieved view on programmers?  Maybe I'm just whining.
Maybe I'm just not over the dot com hey-days when code monkeys were gods
with shorts and sandals at work.

Mr. Forta, and dude from Figleaf, I would really appreciate your take on
this one.

Phoeun
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RE: Function?

[Phoeun Pha]

Why not just let it happen when the user clicks a submit button?  Onexit AKA
OnBlur is creepy and confusing.

but it's possible to do it your way.


First write a javascript function to submit the form.  


THen in the form field for the SSN, add in this attribute..

onblur=nameoffunction();


that way, when the user moves out of the field, it calls the javascript,
which submits the form magically.

walla!



-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Function?


I was curious if it is possible for me to write a function that will
onExit from a form field cerify that data against our database?

For examples if I enter in my SSN then onexit the ssn would be passed
back to the server and a query would execute

Either returing the results of my query (firstname, lastname etc...) or
it would send back no then I would display a error message.

Please advise... Seems possible im just not sure how to do
it...exactly...

Thanks for your help 

Kris Pilles
Website Manager
Western Suffolk BOCES
507 Deer Park Rd., Building C
Phone: 631-549-4900 x 267
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: Function?

[Phoeun Pha]

That is unconventional.  Do it this way...

Put an ONCLICK attribute in the submit button.  That way, if u click it, it
will run your javascript functions which u will write to validate the
fields.  If something is wrong, put out a pop up message.  if nothing is
wrong, have it submit the message.



-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Function?


Well I want to validate certain fields throughout the application and
use the submit for a master save of all of the data associated with the
form.

-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 1:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Function?


Why not just let it happen when the user clicks a submit button?  Onexit
AKA OnBlur is creepy and confusing.

but it's possible to do it your way.


First write a javascript function to submit the form.  


THen in the form field for the SSN, add in this attribute..

onblur=nameoffunction();


that way, when the user moves out of the field, it calls the javascript,
which submits the form magically.

walla!



-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Function?


I was curious if it is possible for me to write a function that will
onExit from a form field cerify that data against our database?

For examples if I enter in my SSN then onexit the ssn would be passed
back to the server and a query would execute

Either returing the results of my query (firstname, lastname etc...) or
it would send back no then I would display a error message.

Please advise... Seems possible im just not sure how to do
it...exactly...

Thanks for your help 

Kris Pilles
Website Manager
Western Suffolk BOCES
507 Deer Park Rd., Building C
Phone: 631-549-4900 x 267
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: Cflocation and a popup

[Phoeun Pha]

actually, this would work


cfif NOT IsDefined('session.client_id')
script language=javascript
function pupUpb()
blah blah blah;

/script
/cfif


it runs the script right in there :)

-Original Message-
From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cflocation and a popup


Can I do this?

cfif NOT IsDefined('session.client_id')
cflocation url=javascript:popUpb('home_login.cfm')
cfabort
/cfif


It doesn't work though!

Don't worry - I have a function in my head tags within my top element
page.

Kodjo ackah
Principal Consultant
concrete-media.com




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RE: Function?

[Phoeun Pha]

Yes, you are right.  I thought that she had wanted to do javascript, then
serverside validation, and if something is wrong, bring them back to the
input page with prefilled fields and alert them.  If nothing is wrong, still
bring them back to the input page, except this time instead of an alert
message, display a submit button for them to click.

heh i'm sleepy i guess



-Original Message-
From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Function?


Phoeun Pha writes: 

 That is unconventional.  Do it this way... 
 
 Put an ONCLICK attribute in the submit button.  That way, if u click it,
it
 will run your javascript functions which u will write to validate the
 fields.  If something is wrong, put out a pop up message.  if nothing is
 wrong, have it submit the message. 
 

actually i believe it's preferrable to have an onSubmit event in the form 
tag to call the validation functions(s) rather than an onClick event in the 
submit button. 

charlie 

 

 


 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Function? 
 
 
 Well I want to validate certain fields throughout the application and
 use the submit for a master save of all of the data associated with the
 form. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Function? 
 
 
 Why not just let it happen when the user clicks a submit button?  Onexit
 AKA OnBlur is creepy and confusing. 
 
 but it's possible to do it your way. 
 
 
 First write a javascript function to submit the form.   
 
 
 THen in the form field for the SSN, add in this attribute.. 
 
 onblur=nameoffunction(); 
 
 
 that way, when the user moves out of the field, it calls the javascript,
 which submits the form magically. 
 
 walla! 
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:52 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Function? 
 
 
 I was curious if it is possible for me to write a function that will
 onExit from a form field cerify that data against our database? 
 
 For examples if I enter in my SSN then onexit the ssn would be passed
 back to the server and a query would execute 
 
 Either returing the results of my query (firstname, lastname etc...) or
 it would send back no then I would display a error message. 
 
 Please advise... Seems possible im just not sure how to do
 it...exactly... 
 
 Thanks for your help  
 
 Kris Pilles
 Website Manager
 Western Suffolk BOCES
 507 Deer Park Rd., Building C
 Phone: 631-549-4900 x 267
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
  
 
  
 
 

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programmer vs. developer

[Phoeun Pha]

whats the difference?
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RE: programmer vs. developer

[Phoeun Pha]

Mikey,

It's just that i saw certification classes for Java programmer, and Java
developer.  Is developer reserved for WEB?  And programmer reserved for
Stand Alone apps?

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: programmer vs. developer


In MMs mind, a programmer is one who uses a compiled language like Java or
C++. A developer is someone who uses a scripting language like CF. This is a
totally artificial distinction and one I reject on every level. I program.
So do you. We're programmers.


 whats the difference?
 

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RE: Cflocation and a popup

[Phoeun Pha]

that's cos you're doing it wrong!
u need home_login.cfm to be a text

and where di the variable ID from from?  where was it defined?



-Original Message-
From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Cflocation and a popup


No joy to this either!




cfif NOT IsDefined('session.client_id')
script language=javascript
function popUpb(URL) {
day = new Date();
id = day.getTime();
eval(page + id +  = window.open(home_login.cfm, ' + id + ',
'toolbar=0,scrollbars=0,location=0,statusbar=0,menubar=0,resizable=0,wid
th=580,height=580,bgcolor=#11'););
}

/script

/cfif

Kodjo ackah
Principal Consultant
concrete-media.com




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RE: programmer vs. developer

[Phoeun Pha]

I think it's ego and class distinction.  I remember my first time trying to
learn to make web pages, and I would use an application to do itsay,
dreamweaver.  I'd ask some coder questions, and he would go off on how these
programs sucked and Notepad all the way!.

I guess it's like this.  He had to learn how to make DHTML menus using raw
code.  I just pressed a button and thought I was a coder!




-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 1:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: programmer vs. developer


Sorry son, but us humans have beaten you to the name human way back.
Doesn't matter that your the same, but you can't be a human. How about
neo-human? Its just as good.
We're programmers as much as someone 10 years ago are programmers. Hey, many
of us were programmers back then as well.
Its a false distinction that has a definition only within the minds of those
who want to make the distinction. 

 Yes,
 
 We program.  But in the grand scheme of things, for demographic purposes
 we are considered developers, not just MM but to the computer world.
 Programmers beat us to the programming way back when computers were
 invented.  They got first rights to use that name in generic terms.
 
 We don't do what they do.  We program web pages/applications, but are
 considered 'developers'.
 
 I'm glad you feel so strongly about it, but I think it doesn't really
 matter and you definitely shouldn't be losing any sleep over it.  That's
 just me.
 
 t
 
 **
 Tyler M. Fitch
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
 http://isitedesign.com
 ** 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:52 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: programmer vs. developer
 
 
 In MMs mind, a programmer is one who uses a compiled language like Java
 or C++. A developer is someone who uses a scripting language like CF.
 This is a totally artificial distinction and one I reject on every
 level. I program. So do you. We're programmers.
 
 
  whats the difference?
  
 
 

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RE: Web Hosting services for ColdFusion

[Phoeun Pha]

i think he was just being mean and joking.  And i found that hilarious lol

-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 1:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Web Hosting services for ColdFusion


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 www.cfdynamics.com

 Good people, good prices.  We use them and are very happy with them.

 -Novak


 I love that on their 'side-by-side comparison' page they list that all of
 their plans offer 'Java Script' :)

That's probably the easiest way to head off people asking the question Can
I use javascript with your hosting? ... as a result of the majority of
people ( read not us ) not understanding the distinction between server and
client-side technologies and how they work. Admittedly, every once in a
while a newbie list member asks a question that obviously indicates that
they aren't yet familiar with the distinction, but then we get them on track
and that's what the list is for. :)


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RE: Web Hosting services for ColdFusion

[Phoeun Pha]

they also offer support for gifs, jpg, and even flash files!
HTML also supported, free of charge!

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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 1:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Web Hosting services for ColdFusion


[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

 Heh... didn't see that page.  Just went to their website and still don't
see
 it... 
 
 -Novak 
 

http://www.cfdynamics.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/detailedlist 

about halfway down the page.  fwiw, this is not the first cf hosting company

i've seen that says they offer javascript :) 

 


 - Original Message -
 From: charlie griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Web Hosting services for ColdFusion 
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

  www.cfdynamics.com
 
  Good people, good prices.  We use them and are very happy with them.
 
  -Novak
  

 I love that on their 'side-by-side comparison' page they list that all of
 their plans offer 'Java Script' :) 

 

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  From: siva girumala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:12 AM
  Subject: Web Hosting services for ColdFusion
 
 
  Hi
 
  I am going to release a website for CFMX certification
  in  a shortwhile.
 
  I would like to know about the hosting services for
  Coldfusion... Please mention few names either
  free/charge basis...
 
  Thank you
 
  --Siva Girumala
 
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RE: Dyanmic Form Names huh?

[Phoeun Pha]

First of all, in the first page, in a hidden field, give it a value of how
many sections there are, which i hope u can do.  Let's call this hidden
field num_sections.  Then, in the processing page for the loop


CFLOOP index=index from=1 to=#form.num_sections#

cfif evaluate('form.section'  index) IS yes
listappend(blahblahblah
/cfif

/CFLOOP

:)







-Original Message-
From: Ewok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Dyanmic Form Names huh?


Ok, so I have a database full of sections in the admin section

section1
section2
section3
section4

no problem looping over them to create a dynamic form

cfloop query=getsections datasource=#request.maindsn# dbtype=ODBC

cfoutput

  #getsections.sectionname#

  select name=#sectionname# size=1
   option value=yes YES   /option
   option value=no   NO   /option
  /select

/cfoutput

/cfloop

so I have a form that sorta resembles my artwork below.
___
Section 1 |___YES___|/\|

Section 2 |NO___|/\|
___
Section 3 |YES___|/\|

Section 3 |NO___|/\|

hehe those are drop down selects..no really they are!

ok so the form is simple enough

now when i process the template (send it to act_process.cfm)

I want to make a list of all the selections that were YES

 section1,section3   from my beautiful example  ; )

but i cant  say

cfif form.#section1# IS yes
listappend(blahblahblah
/cfif

in a loop

HOW CAN I GET THESE FORM NAMES THEIR VALUES AND   *cough* sorry i yelled


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RE: Blatant advertising: Two new CF books!

[Phoeun Pha]

Come on yall, Ben's growling.  Let's help him make some dough.  I'm gettin a
copy today if i can!



-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Blatant advertising: Two new CF books!


G! It is shipping and they do have it already. I have e-mailed
their catalog department but have not heard back from them. I'll keep
nagging though.

If anyone finds a store (brick and mortar or online) with it in stock,
please post to the list as lots of you are e-mailing me on this one.

Thanks!

--- Ben



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From: jt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Blatant advertising: Two new CF books!


Ben,

I ordered your book, Reality ColdFusion: Flash MX Integration last
week from amazon and it still hasn't shipped!  They claim it still isn't
published and are saying that they don't expect it to be shipped until
Sept. 9th.

Anything you can do to whip them into shape?

Can't wait for the book,

Josh

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 8:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Blatant advertising: Two new CF books!


That book is basically done, and is about to go to print. Should be out
within a few weeks (I hope).

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 10:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Blatant advertising: Two new CF books!


Ben if possible please ask them to push that CFMX and J2EE integration
out asap!  :)

Stace


-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 10:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Blatant advertising: Two new CF books!

CF_BLATANT_ADVERTISING

This is blatant advertising, I admit it, but ... :-)

Two new CF books are out and shipping (despite Amazon.com still stating
not yet published and showing the wrong screenshot):

ColdFusion MX Web Application Construction Kit is the new revision of
the original and best-selling CF title. Besides lots of updates and
enhancements, new to this edition is coverage of CFC's, writing UDF's,
Flash Remoting basics (more coverage in the title below), use of
Dreamweaver MX, and more. Oh, and by popular demand (or complaint) the
reference appendixes are all back in actual print. The book is now 1500
pages, and was co-authored by Nate Weiss with additional content by Leon
Chalnick and Angela Buraglia. Book page is at
http://www.forta.com/books/0321125169/, and the direct link to
Amazon.com is
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0321125169/benfortascoldfusA/.

Reality ColdFusion: Flash MX Integration is the first title in my new
Reality ColdFusion series - a set of higher-end case-study based books
that walk through complete development efforts, from concept and
requirements to development and delivery. This title covers ColdFusion /
Flash integration and is authored by Dennis Baldwin, Randy Drisgill,
Derek Lu, and Matt Tatum. Applications created are a jukebox, an expense
reporting app, a mail client, and a chat system. Book page is at
http://www.forta.com/books/0321125150/, and the Amazon.com link is
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0321125150/benfortascoldfusA/.
(The next two books in this series will be on Intranets and Content
Management and J2EE Integration - stay tuned).

Enjoy!

/CF_BLATANT_ADVERTISING

--- Ben Forta









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form.fieldnames question WAS RE: Dyanmic Form Names huh?

[Phoeun Pha]

Wouldn't #form.fieldnames# return all the fields?  i mean what if there were
some other fields that was passed through but not related to form.section
this would work.



-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 3:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Dyanmic Form Names huh?


 #form.fieldnames# woudl return
 
 section1,section2,section3,section4
 
 I need the values of
 
 #form.section1#
 #form.section2#
 #form.section3#
 
 I need to turn them into variables and get their values
 
 any other suggestions??

Charlie's original suggestion was that you loop over the variable
Form.Fieldnames:

cfloop list=#Form.fieldnames# index=i
cfoutput#Form[i]#/cfoutputbr
/cfloop

Or, you could use the Form structure to do essentially the same thing:

cfloop collection=#Form# item=i
cfoutput#Form[i]#/cfoutputbr
/cfloop

I'd recommend the second approach if you're using a server which supports it
(CF 4+), since the behavior of Form.fieldnames has changed between CF 5 and
CF MX (duplicate field names are no longer displayed), but either will do
for most uses.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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OT: WHy is this list so slow??

[Phoeun Pha]

Can someone (Mike?) explain to me why this list is soo
so
SOO

slow?

I mean, the subscription system works pretty darn fast.   Why's the list so
slow?  

::sniff::
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RE: Mail Delivery Status Notification blah!

[Phoeun Pha]

Tell me if I'm wrong, but doesn't displaying the profanity in this
notification undermine the silly censorship system in the first place?

whats the point?






-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mail Delivery Status Notification


MAIL ESSENTIALS SENDER NOTIFICATION

The following message:

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Subject: Mail Delivery Status Notification


has been quarantined by Mail Essentials for the following reason(s):

Body contains word(s)/phrase(s) 'shit'


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RE: Debug

[Phoeun Pha]

what IP address do u use for the server?  an external or internal?

also, try 127.0.0.1
:0)~


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 9:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Debug


I'm having a bit of a problem after upgrading to CF5.  For some reason, the
debugging output is available to any IP that I set, aside from the server
itself.  I have tried using the loopback address, as well as all addresses
that the server hosts, but to no avail. Has anyone ever come across this,
and resolved on it? I have never encountered this problem with previous
releases of ColdFusion.  I'm sure I can code some sort of work around, but
I'd prefer to resolve the issue at the root, as a workaround would need to
be implemented per application, and I'd like to avoid that...

TIA,
Ashe Richards


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Browser Question

[Phoeun Pha]

Hey guys, any insight on this.

When you are on the web and putting information onto a form, and press
submit, your browser sends information to the server.  Is it possible to
know what exactly your browser is sending?  I mean would it be possible to
manipulate exactly what you send, but from the client side?  Let's say that
for example I have a hidden field called ID with the value of 77333.
Would it be possible to manipulate the browser to send it with a different
ID?
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RE: Browser Question

[Phoeun Pha]

but doesn't that mean open source browsers are prime hacking tool?

-Original Message-
From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 9:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Browser Question


Yes it is, hackers sometimes do this.


-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 June 2002 15:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Browser Question


Hey guys, any insight on this.

When you are on the web and putting information onto a form, and press
submit, your browser sends information to the server.  Is it possible to
know what exactly your browser is sending?  I mean would it be possible to
manipulate exactly what you send, but from the client side?  Let's say that
for example I have a hidden field called ID with the value of 77333.
Would it be possible to manipulate the browser to send it with a different
ID?


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RE: Debug

[Phoeun Pha]

Try doing this.  Write cfm page to display the IP address of the computer
accessnig the page.  Then go to that page using the server.  It is possible
that it's recognizing the server by some other IP address that u dont know.
Then just put that IP address into the show debug info list thinga-ma-bob



-Original Message-
From: Ashe Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 9:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Debug


I have used the machine address itself, as well as addresses the machine
uses to host applications. I have also tried the loopback address
(127.0.0.1).

Ashe

- Original Message -
From: Phoeun Pha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: Debug


 what IP address do u use for the server?  an external or internal?

 also, try 127.0.0.1
 :0)~


 -Original Message-
 From: Ashe Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 9:04 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Debug


 I'm having a bit of a problem after upgrading to CF5.  For some reason,
the
 debugging output is available to any IP that I set, aside from the server
 itself.  I have tried using the loopback address, as well as all addresses
 that the server hosts, but to no avail. Has anyone ever come across this,
 and resolved on it? I have never encountered this problem with previous
 releases of ColdFusion.  I'm sure I can code some sort of work around, but
 I'd prefer to resolve the issue at the root, as a workaround would need to
 be implemented per application, and I'd like to avoid that...

 TIA,
 Ashe Richards


 

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RE: Browser Question

[Phoeun Pha]

Then that's crazy!  How do i protect my apps???  3rd party software?  heh

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Browser Question


Programatically - using Javascript - yes.  Most any JS book will cover
several
ways to do this...



-Cameron



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 -Original Message-

 From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:53 AM

 To: CF-Talk

 Subject: Browser Question

 

 

 Hey guys, any insight on this.

 

 When you are on the web and putting information onto a form, and press

 submit, your browser sends information to the server.  Is it 

 possible to

 know what exactly your browser is sending?  I mean would it 

 be possible to

 manipulate exactly what you send, but from the client side?  

 Let's say that

 for example I have a hidden field called ID with the value 

 of 77333.

 Would it be possible to manipulate the browser to send it 

 with a different

 ID?

 

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RE: Devcon Volunteers

[Phoeun Pha]

Why stop at a beard?  http://www.snifflebear.com/woops.jpg Look like that
and they'll never notice!

haha :D


-Original Message-
From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 11:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Devcon Volunteers


any one know if MM has any programs for volunteers?
for setting up/tearing down  such...

looks like my Co. wont pay for any training or conferences..

so would like to figure out other options to get in  learn...

maybe i can grow a beard by then  sneak in
joke

:]

-paul

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RE: Devcon Volunteers

[Phoeun Pha]

That's Bob getting ready for a NADs infomercial :)


-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Devcon Volunteers


Isn't that Bob Vila?

On Tuesday, June 25, 2002, at 09:50  AM, Phoeun Pha wrote:

 Why stop at a beard?  http://www.snifflebear.com/woops.jpg Look like 
 that
 and they'll never notice!

 haha :D


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 11:37 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Devcon Volunteers


 any one know if MM has any programs for volunteers?
 for setting up/tearing down  such...

 looks like my Co. wont pay for any training or conferences..

 so would like to figure out other options to get in  learn...

 maybe i can grow a beard by then  sneak in
 joke

 :]

 -paul

 

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RE: test

[Phoeun Pha]

This means my comments are searchable through the net?  eheh Time to
subscribe to a new account!

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: test


The easiest way to see if the lists are up is to look at
www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists and see the time of the last post. Saves on
the test messages.

At 12:48 PM 6/25/02, you wrote:
Have not seen anything since yesterday, so testing

Robert Bailey



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Javascript/HTML Based Chat Tip

[Phoeun Pha]

I noticed that some javascript/html based chats are made up of 2 frames (one
on top of the other)-one frame displaying the chat messages, and the
other for message input.

The frame displaying the chat messages would refresh at a specified interval
to refresh messages.  I find this quite annoying, as I am reading the chat
and it keeps on flickering.  I wouldn't mind it flickering if it flickered
new messages!  Plus, me being being the way I am, I want it to display new
data more often!  I want data ASAP!!  not in 2, or 5 second intervals.  But
at IM chat level interval :)

So here's how you might want to make your javascript chat to satisfy people
like me.Use 3 frames.  The first 2 being the chat display and chat
input.

This is the basic architect, not in the details.

The third one, the most important one, should be very small.  like give it a
width of one pixel of something.  You know make it invisible and seamless
if possible :)  and in that third one, write javascript for it to refresh
every second or .5 seconds or .1 if possible! :)  and also write CFM code to
check if there is any new messages comin over, u know, use a flag or
something.  and if there is a new message, do a condition to have javascript
code to tell it to refresh the chat display window.  And walla!  You never
have to bother with an obvious constantly refreshing chat window again!  it
refreshes when a new message comes in!  And not only that, it's almost
instant!

muwhahahahaha!  no need to learn Java!
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RE: Javascript/HTML Based Chat Tip to Jann

[Phoeun Pha]

Who said Javascript was Java?  Sorry i should have been more clear.

See, Java chat applets can do a whole lot more than a simple javascript/html
chat.  But taking off this primitive page refresh feeling from a
javascript/html based chat, u can't tell if it's made out of java or
javascript from the way it looks.

I wanted to learn java largely because i wanted to make chat applets among
other things.

hope u udnerstand now!

-Original Message-
From: Jann VanOver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 1:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Javascript/HTML Based Chat Tip


Um I'm not sure of the point of your post, but ... Javascript is NOT Java

Just doing my bit to educate the world

On 6/25/02 11:06 AM, Phoeun Pha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I noticed that some javascript/html based chats are made up of 2 frames
(one
 on top of the other)-one frame displaying the chat messages, and the
 other for message input.
...
 
 muwhahahahaha!  no need to learn Java!
 

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RE: Removing html tags stored with text in a database

[Phoeun Pha]

use replace character functions 




-Original Message-
From: Charlie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 2:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Removing html tags stored with text in a database


I have data ( company profile ) stored in a SQL Server data table (ntext).
The interface I built for my client uses a web editor interface allowing the
to control formattingno problem works great...

Client would now like to use the first 200 characters of the company profile
on another page within the site, only the do not for the text to be
formatting, they prefer it to match that particular pages style

The data stored in the table has the html tags within such as strong,
p, em, and suchis there anyway I can strip out all html tags when
outputting the profile text on the new page




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RE: Javascript/HTML Based Chat Tip

[Phoeun Pha]

Brad, u are right!  I forgot to talk about that annoying sound!  rarrarar!!
I guess u can't have everything :)

-Original Message-
From: Brad Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 2:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Javascript/HTML Based Chat Tip


He's not referencing Java.  He's talking about the CF Chat programs that
refresh the page every second.  As the page refreshes, it flickers (goes
blank for a sec.).  Sounds like a good implementation, but there's still the
problem with the clicking sound when the page refreshes.  IMHO, CF probably
isn't the best solution for chatting.

-Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: Jann VanOver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 2:44 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Javascript/HTML Based Chat Tip


 Um I'm not sure of the point of your post, but ... Javascript is NOT Java

 Just doing my bit to educate the world

 On 6/25/02 11:06 AM, Phoeun Pha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I noticed that some javascript/html based chats are made up of
 2 frames (one
  on top of the other)-one frame displaying the chat messages, and the
  other for message input.
 ...
 
  muwhahahahaha!  no need to learn Java!
 
 

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RE: Removing html tags stored with text in a database THE CODE

[Phoeun Pha]

Here this works perfect.  The final stuff will be in the variable called
TEMP, so just cfoutput it somewhere. you owe me! :)

Profile is the variable of the company profile, of course.  change it to
whatever you wish.  dont change anything else





CFSET temp=profile

CFLOOP index=index from=1 to=1000
CFSET temp2 = Findnocase(,trim(temp),1)
CFSET temp3 = Findnocase(,trim(temp),1)
CFIF temp2 EQ 0
CFBREAK
/CFIF

CFSET temp= removechars(temp, temp2, evaluate((temp3-temp2)+1))
/CFLOOP









-Original Message-
From: Charlie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 2:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Removing html tags stored with text in a database


I have data ( company profile ) stored in a SQL Server data table (ntext).
The interface I built for my client uses a web editor interface allowing the
to control formattingno problem works great...

Client would now like to use the first 200 characters of the company profile
on another page within the site, only the do not for the text to be
formatting, they prefer it to match that particular pages style

The data stored in the table has the html tags within such as strong,
p, em, and suchis there anyway I can strip out all html tags when
outputting the profile text on the new page




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RE: cflocation url length

[Phoeun Pha]

it's a browser thing :)  I recall a convo where IE was restricting limits.

the question is, what the heck are u passing?!

-Original Message-
From: Rob Baxter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 5:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cflocation url length


I've noticed that cflocation seems to fail when the url argument is very
long, for example  850 chars. I think I remember seeing somewhere that
CFLOCATION actually implements an HTTP 302 Redirect. Is there something in
the html headers which is restricts the url length, or is this an artificial
restriction imposed by cflocation?
More pratically, has anyone determined the actual cutoff point where
cflocation will fail?

/rob


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Future of Coldfusion

[Phoeun Pha]

Hey guys, where do you think coldfusion is headed?  I mean, when 4.5 came
out, it was like when AMD came out with their cheap and competitive Athlons!

But all of that excitement kind of died down.well, at least for me
anyways.  But how about you guys?  Maybe the Macromedia merge had something
to do with it.

What do you think?
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Coldfusion WishList

[Phoeun Pha]

Well, first of all, I wish there was a email list for CF wishlists.

Seondly, I was just wondering what you guys always wanted in Coldfusion, but
is missing from CFMX??


I couldn't think of anythign yet :)
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RE: Future of Coldfusion

[Phoeun Pha]

As you are reading this I am in process of submitting a trademark for that
phrase.  Any use of that phrase, whether exclaimed, or as a question, will
be subject to payment per use!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 12:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Future of Coldfusion


Better get a trademark on that phrase. :)  Great, now I have another 
term to throw at those pesky PHP developers that gang-bang me over at 
Ultrashock. :) lol...

~Todd


 
 A friend of mine once described CFML as Intellectually Scalable. I
 think this is a perfect way to describe CFML. It works for you when you
 are a rank novice and works with you when you are a guru.
 
 ===
 Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia
 

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Coldfusion Apps You've Built

[Phoeun Pha]

Hey guys, I'm 2 years in the CF game, and so far I've built a timesheet
program, and events administration, countless shopping carts, pharmacy
prescription app.  But looking back at my code, it was verry bddd!
Like I could think of a hundred places to do things differently, either form
CF or from the database design.
Obviously it was because of lack of experience

Was there anything that you guys have built for past clients that you now
know could have been coded better?
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RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

[Phoeun Pha]

ahahaha!!  very well put about the upgrade!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built


Heck yeah.  I look at old code and ask myself what I was smoking when I 
wrote it all the time.  I think we all do.  The importance is realizing 
that ... you did it and you accept that it's wrong and you learn from it.

grain_o_salt
And...  figure out how to market from your mistakes. ;)  Make a better app 
and offer it as an 'upgrade'. ;)
/grain_o_salt

~Todd

On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Phoeun Pha wrote:

 Hey guys, I'm 2 years in the CF game, and so far I've built a timesheet
 program, and events administration, countless shopping carts, pharmacy
 prescription app.  But looking back at my code, it was verry bddd!
 Like I could think of a hundred places to do things differently, either
form
 CF or from the database design.
 Obviously it was because of lack of experience
 
 Was there anything that you guys have built for past clients that you now
 know could have been coded better?
 

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RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

[Phoeun Pha]

I think I am at architect level now (in my humblest gesture).  hehe

But it's funny, about a year ago, the development room was dubbed the
Monkey Cage heh

-Original Message-
From: Cravens, Billy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built


CF is one of those languages that you eventually hit a point where you
know pretty much everything syntax-wise.  No matter how much longer you
code, you still can't learn that much more.  As time goes along, you
start to grow as an architect - realize all the things you should have
done before you wrote your code.  That's what separates the code
monkeys from the architects.  

---
Billy Cravens

 

-Original Message-
From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

Almost everything!

This happens to all programmers for a couple of reasons.  First, we
quite
often have our hands tied on some of the methods we would like to use
(i.e.
a client tells you that you CANT use stored procedures, even though
everything you (and other programmers) know about the situation says
they
are the best choice.  Secondly, working through a project educates us on
both the required routines, and the languages involved.  I learn more
about
CF coding the more I have to write CF code.

These two points on their own are enough for all of us to reflect on
things
that could have been done better.

My thoughts

Shawn Grover

-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 11:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Coldfusion Apps You've Built


Hey guys, I'm 2 years in the CF game, and so far I've built a timesheet
program, and events administration, countless shopping carts, pharmacy
prescription app.  But looking back at my code, it was verry
bddd!
Like I could think of a hundred places to do things differently, either
form
CF or from the database design.
Obviously it was because of lack of experience

Was there anything that you guys have built for past clients that you
now
know could have been coded better?



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RE: Creating Images Question

[Phoeun Pha]

Hey brian, there's a CFX tag that createsdynamic images, i think as a
JPG...u can specify the text, size, font, color, background color, width,
height

In fact, u can even use an existing image that has its own cool background,
and then dynamically put text in front of it.  just check around for it

-Original Message-
From: Brian Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Creating Images Question


I have a simple request and I'm sure there must be a custom tag (free or
not, doesn't matter) to do it.

I have some text, for example: Hello World
I would like to be able to pass that text into the custom tag and have it
create a JPG/GIF file that contains Hello World.  Nothing fancy (image
size, background color, text color, text font, that's all I need).

Any suggestions,
Brian

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RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

[Phoeun Pha]

The most embarassing code I've written involved displaying the names of
events in calendar-like page (each day would list the events).

Well, I have never used the GROUPING attribute in the CFOUTPUT, so instead I
ended up looping through the query for the right events, and if the event
matches that day, then display it.  And it did this for every DAY that was
displayed!! (about 100 in all)







-Original Message-
From: Ewok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 2:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built


Im with Charlie 100% on this one. I can better things I did YESTERDAY,
everyday.

.and even though I haven't been at it long, YES I've swapped code under a
clients nose to save myself some embarrassment : )



- Original Message -
From: Massimo, Tiziana e Federica [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built


  Was there anything that you guys have built for past clients that you
now
  know could have been coded better?

 The day I will stop having that kind of feeling I will start worrying :-)

 Massimo

 

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Structure vs. array

[Phoeun Pha]

I always found structures to be harder to work with than arrays.  in fact i
find nothing useful with structure (cuz of ignorance, of course)  :)

Can someone gimme an example of when a structure should be used and what
not?  Cuz structures are one of the few main things I have left to touch in
Coldfusion.

And now for something a little off topic.  I am so happy I have a job!
Aren't you?! :)

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RE: registry error

[Phoeun Pha]

try deleting it from the ODBC datasources control panel instead of using the
Coldfusion admin

that is, if you're using windows :)

-Original Message-
From: Steven Dworman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: registry error


I've never had this happen.  Here goes...

I went in to administrator to delete an ODBC source.  Sounds simple I know,
but I got this error:

Unable to delete the registry entry in branch
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI\***datasource here***
A problem was encountered trying to access the system registry. Error number
5 occurred - Access denied to registry key (probably due to security
constraints).

Obviously I checked permissions, and of course I have a user with
administrator permissions logged in.  I am able to delete other sources, and
can create new ones.  Also I tried to delete the key itself and got an error
saying unable to delete.
Any help is appreciated.



Steven D Dworman
Macromedia Certified Developer
-
Web Consultant
Systems Administrator

ComSpec International - http://www.comspecinternational.com
phone: 248.647.8841
cell:  248.767.9925
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SOT: DNS Havoc!!

[Phoeun Pha]

Hey guys i just switched to a new host for the website www.entelligence.com

But for some reason it still pings to the old host IP address
Can you guys Ping the site and tell me (directly to my email) what address
you get?

The new host IP is 66.28.113.146
The old host IP is 209.113.73.92

The wierd thing is the other coputers in my office are pointing to the new
site!  I have set up my DNS information correctly too, but it's still
pointing to the old site.  ahhh!!!

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RE: DNS Havoc!!

[Phoeun Pha]

Last Friday.  By the way the old host (very nasty) charged 49.95 for a DNS
change!  u think they ripped us off?
-Original Message-
From: Joshua Tipton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DNS Havoc!!


How long ago did you change this sometimes it will take up to 24 hours to
propogate around the world.

Josh

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DNS Havoc!!


I'm getting the nw IP from both 207.x.x.x and 68.x.x.x

-mk

-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: DNS Havoc!!


Hey guys i just switched to a new host for the website www.entelligence.com

But for some reason it still pings to the old host IP address
Can you guys Ping the site and tell me (directly to my email) what address
you get?

The new host IP is 66.28.113.146
The old host IP is 209.113.73.92

The wierd thing is the other coputers in my office are pointing to the new
site!  I have set up my DNS information correctly too, but it's still
pointing to the old site.  ahhh!!!




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RE: registry error

[Phoeun Pha]

It's not?  How can it not be?  I mean, it has to be!!

Or maybe, it was actually deleted the first time u tried in the CF admin,
but that error u got was erroneous

-Original Message-
From: Steven Dworman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: registry error


it's not in the odbc datasources control panel.


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Certified Macromedia Developer

Web Consultant
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- Original Message -
From: Phoeun Pha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: registry error


 try deleting it from the ODBC datasources control panel instead of using
the
 Coldfusion admin

 that is, if you're using windows :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Dworman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:51 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: registry error


 I've never had this happen.  Here goes...

 I went in to administrator to delete an ODBC source.  Sounds simple I
know,
 but I got this error:

 Unable to delete the registry entry in branch
 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI\***datasource here***
 A problem was encountered trying to access the system registry. Error
number
 5 occurred - Access denied to registry key (probably due to security
 constraints).

 Obviously I checked permissions, and of course I have a user with
 administrator permissions logged in.  I am able to delete other sources,
and
 can create new ones.  Also I tried to delete the key itself and got an
error
 saying unable to delete.
 Any help is appreciated.



 Steven D Dworman
 Macromedia Certified Developer
 -
 Web Consultant
 Systems Administrator

 ComSpec International - http://www.comspecinternational.com
 phone: 248.647.8841
 cell:  248.767.9925
 -
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RE: CF_Forms_in_HTML_E-Mail No Answers yet

[Phoeun Pha]

process is spelled with 1 c only.  maybe u got the spelling mixed up with
the actual file

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF_Forms_in_HTML_E-Mail No Answers yet


Hello,

No one seems to be able to answer this one ...

Sending an HTML e-mail using cfmail ...
In the HTML E-mail is a basic form ...
When I hit submit from within Outlook, the form won't 
process.

Why?

CODE:

  CFMAIL to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=HTML FORM E-
MAIL type=HTML
form action=http://www.domainname.com/proccess.cfm; 
method=post
table align=left border=0 width=50% 
cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0
tr
td align=left Question 1: How is the 
evaluation of our product going?/td
tr
/tr
td align=center
select name=q1 size=1
option value=1 
SELECTEDSelect an Answer/option
option value=2Ready 
to Place an Order/option
option value=3Need 
More Time/option
option value=4Need 
Some Help/option
option value=5No 
Purchases Planned/option
option value=6Never 
Received Sample/option
/select
/td
tr/tr
td align=left Question 2: Are there any 
issues or conerns you need help with?/td
tr
/tr
td align=center
select name=q1 size=1
option value=1 
SELECTEDSelect an Answer/option
option value=2No 
Problems/option
option value=3Need a 
Application Enginner/option
option 
value=4Products Aren't Working/option
option value=5Took 
to Long to Get Sample/option
option 
value=6Something Else/option
/select
/td
tr/tr
td align=left Question 3: Why is Steve so 
successful?/td
tr/tr
td align=center
select name=q1 size=1
option value=1 
SELECTEDSelect an Answer/option
option value=2Good 
Looks/option
option 
value=3Brains/option
option value=4Charm 
and Wit/option
option 
value=5Product Knowledge/option
option value=6All of 
the Above/option
/select
/td
tr/tr
td align=center
input type=submit name=submit value=Submit 
Information
/td
/tr
/table
/form
/CFMAIL

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RE: Does cfcookie depend on cfapplication

[Phoeun Pha]

Why are you structuring your app that way though?  CFAPPLICATION should be
used to define the scope of one application, not the scope of a permission.

I suggest a different approach on structing the permissions part of your
web.  If you're interested, contact me!

And to answer your questionYes, it seems that CFCookie does not span
across CFAPPLICATIONS :)


-Original Message-
From: Brian Eckerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Does cfcookie depend on cfapplication


Hello, this is my millionth question this week.

I am trying to validate a user with a root application (CFAPPLICATION
NAME=MAIN...)
then I want to store the permissions I got from the LDAP table and
switch contexts depending on which 
departmental link the user clicked on, (CFAPPLICATION NAME=ASSET
RECOVERY...)
I want to be able to access the variables I stored earlier.

So far I tried 
Client Variables- ( Do not span across CFAPPLICATIONs)
Copying Session from one CFAPP. to anouther with REQUEST Scope ( no way
to get them from one department to anougther)

I though CFCOOKIE would be my Holy Grail because  (I thought) they would
be specific to one user, and span CFAPPLICATIONS.
Even better they expire when the Browser closes.

(beats head against wall)
Unfortunatly when I do the following (pseudocode)

-
file1.cfm

CFAPP. NAME=MAIN
CFCOOKIE NAME=permissions VALUE=x,y,z
-
file2.cfm

CFAPP. NAME=ASSET_RECOVERY
CFOUTPUT
#IsDefined(Cookie.permissions)#
-



It outputs NO

ARHHH

Is there anything specific to a user but spans CFAPPLICATION?

HELP!


-Original Message-
From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Session vs URL variables


I've been encrypting my URL variables before passing them but I was 
wondering if I'd be better off simply using a Session variable to handle

most of my variables and only hand off one or two URL variables.  That
way 
I could avoid the encryption.

Which is the better approach?

T



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Re: Form Question

[Phoeun Pha]

hello u silly person.

lets say the forms made were day1, day2, and day3
and i also have a hidden form called "how" that has the values of how many
"day" forms i have, which is 3.


this is how u would call them out dynamically when you do your update query


CFLOOP index="number" FROM = 1 TO = '#Form.how#'
CFQUERY name="blah" datasource="hehe"
UPDATE Table
Set  mookie = '#Evaluate('Form.Day'  number)#'
/CFLOOP


easy eh?

- Original Message -
From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 2:01 PM
Subject: Form Question


 Maybe Im being dense today but I can do this in ASP pretty easy I just
need
 to know how to do it in CF.

 I have a form that outputs a series of similar items that I allow the user
 to change all at once with one form submit

 example
 INPUT TYPE="TEXT" NAME="FIELD_NAME#COUNTER#" VALUE="#FIELD_NAME#"
 INPUT TYPE="TEXT" NAME="FIELD_ID#COUNTER#" VALUE="#ID#"

 In ASP I am looping through the set like this

 StrField_Name = Request.Form(Cstr("Field_name"  Varcounter))
 IntField_ID = Request.Form(Cstr("Field_ID"  Varcounter))

 THen I can do an update loop for however many of the same fields there are
 like follows

 Update Table
 Set Field_Name = '"StrField_Name"'
 Where ID = "IntField_ID"


 So in effect getting Field_Name1 and Field_ID1, Field_Name2 and Field_ID2


 Maybe Ive been switching back and forth between CF and ASP too much but I
 can't recall the method to do this in CF. Must need more coffee.



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Re: date range search - thanks!

[Phoeun Pha]

i guess i'm one of the "others"

heh



- Original Message -
From: Robert Orlini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:07 PM
Subject: date range search - thanks!


 Thanks to all (Lamon, Steve, Jason, Jay, Phillip, Paul, and others) who
 helped with my "date range search" problem.

 Problems again with "#" sign placements and single quotes. I will read
Ben's
 info on this I promise. I don't do CF all day and going back and forth
from
 different projects makes it all the worse.

 Robert O. :)

 This code finally did it:
 CFSET startdate = Createdate(Year,Month,Day)
 CFSET enddate = Createdate(Year2,Month2,Day2)

 CFQUERY name="getwweb" datasource="wwebsales"
 SELECT * FROM wwebsales
 where orderdate between #startdate# and #enddate#
 /cfquery



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Re: How to Allow a Doesn't Matter Variable in a Search?

[Phoeun Pha]

just set a condition to not do a WHERE statement in your SQL if they choose
"it don't matter"
- Original Message -
From: P@tty Ayers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:30 AM
Subject: How to Allow a "Doesn't Matter" Variable in a Search?


 Friends:  Can anyone help with this problem I'm stuck on? Not sure if this
 is a simple one or not, but in any case I'll sure be delighted to get it
 working.

 This set of pages allows the user to search a set of records using 9
search
 objects. Four of those are for searching yes/no (1/0) fields in the
 Access2000 database.

 For the four search fields which search yes/no columns, I  want them to
 choose either "This doesn't matter - don't include this in the search" OR
 "Include only records with "yes" (1) in this column. They need to be able
to
 specify that they want to see only rental properties that have a hot tub,
or
 else that this doesn't matter to them.

 Obviously this differs from offering the choice between "Include only
 records with 'yes' in this column" and "Include only records with 'no' in
 this column", which is *not* what I need to do here.

 This could be done with checkboxes or a menu - but I can't figure out how
to
 allow that "This doesn't matter" search parameter.

 Thanks very much in advance for your help!


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RE: Posting screenshots

[Phoeun Pha]

go to www.download.com, and check out screenImg 1.0 (shareware)

this program takes screenshots and saves them as jpegs to the hard drive (u
specify it in the preferences).  this is how i would approach this.  u build
an interface for reporting bugs, and have an upload file thingy.  have the
users install this shareware, and they can make it save the picture with the
press of a hot key.  then they can upload the pic too!





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Posting screenshots


Hi folks,

I know that this is something that is going to need to be handled
client-side, hence the OT.  I'm working on an internal project/task/time
management system that has recently had quality assurance (read: bug
tracking) capabilities incorporated.

In the past our testers (and in some cases clients) have created MS Word
docs and copied in screenshots to give developers a better grasp of where
applications "die".  This is done by hitting CTRL Print Screen and then
pasting the image into the word doc.  I've been asked if there is a way to
build this feature into the reporting form.  In other words, grab whatever
is in the clipboard or pasted into a field and save it as an image.  Browser
compatibility is not an issue, everyone that's using the app is on IE 5 or
higher.  My boss remembers being able to grab the contents of the clipboard
from FoxPro apps he used to build, but he realizes that he was building a
specific client.

Any suggestions?  If you'd feel more comfortable replying off-list, my
e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TIA
Hatton Humphrey
Fisher, Towne  Associates
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RE: Do I need to run ColdFusion IDE Service?

[Phoeun Pha]

Studio has bad memory management, thats what i heard

-Original Message-
From: Peter J. MacDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Do I need to run ColdFusion IDE Service?


Jeff,

I ran CF 4.5 on win 98 fine for over six months.  The only thing that I had
to have running for it to work was PWS, CF RDS, and CF Server.  The only
real issue I had was that CF Studio would crash a couple of time a day.  I
was running on a P2 166 with 80 megs of ram.  I think the crashing was
caused, based on what I used to see here, because I used CF Studio project.
When I crashed I would have to reboot.  I hope this help since it was not
4.0 specific.

Thank You,
Peter

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Lincoln, RI 02865
Phone: 401.727.0183 x123
Fax: 401.727.4998
Portable: 401.965.3661
E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Page: www.creatcomp.com



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Do I need to run ColdFusion IDE Service?


I'm running Windows98 with personal web server and ColdFusion 4.0 (PLEASE
PLEASE PLEASE, no jokes. I'm working in an ad agency where I'm the ONLY
Windows machine in the place, so I take what I can and run with it, I'm
lucky to have this...)

But a friend of mine was saying that I don't even need to run IDE service on
my machine (All my databases are access databases, we don't have a client
yet who requires SQL or anything much bigger). I'm kinda new to all this
stuff, so I'd like to be able to not run it if I don't need to and free up
the memory...

So with my current configuration (I just work on this machine, send it over
to my ISP and have them hook up the datasource) and running 4.0 do I need it
running? Can I just remove the shortcut from my startup folder?
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RE: Stupid Question? - Commenting Code That Does Not Show in Brow ser

[Phoeun Pha]

this is what i would do.

u will have to work a login page (u decide how to verify it).  all this
login page will do is set a session or application variable to true, or some
value.  then in your actual code, i would wrap a condition around your
comment, to only let the comment show (on the browser side) if that variable
is TRUE or present or whatever.


ex.

I log in witha  correct login and password, and it sets session.snifflebutt
to TRUE.   in my CFM code, i owuld do this around the comments


CFIF IsDefined("session.snifflebutt")
---  You are all a bunch of snifflebutts  ---
/CFIF

if a regular person goes to the site, they wont be able to view the comment.
slick, eh?  send me money!



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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Stupid Question? - Commenting Code That Does Not Show in
Browser


I want to place comments in the code for the other developers.  However I do
not want the comments to show up in the browser with "view source." Am I
totally overlooking something?

Thanks,
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RE: Posting screenshots

[Phoeun Pha]

dude, whats so HARD about pressing a button that makes the screenshot and
saves it automatically somehwere that can be found easily, then uploaded?


if u still dont wanna go that route, i was thinking maybe make a java applet
that acts like a simple graphics program and peeps and just paste stuff in
there?

but thats crazy!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Posting screenshots


Phoeun,

Thanks for the suggestion, but maybe I didn't quite phrase the question
fully.  We already have a file upload section.  What I've been asked is for
a way to attach an image *without* using a file input.  In other words, they
don't want to have to go through the trouble of creating a file to attach to
the bug report... they want to be able to just paste in an image.

Hatton

 -Original Message-
 go to www.download.com, and check out screenImg 1.0 (shareware)

 this program takes screenshots and saves them as jpegs to the
 hard drive (u
 specify it in the preferences).  this is how i would approach
 this.  u build
 an interface for reporting bugs, and have an upload file thingy.  have the
 users install this shareware, and they can make it save the
 picture with the
 press of a hot key.  then they can upload the pic too!
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RE: Stupid Question? - Commenting Code That Does Not Show in Brow ser

[Phoeun Pha]

ack!  i didn't know that!   ::dies::

sorry jeff, i guess the CF hyphen thing is much easier to implement than
what i posted earlier!  I learned something today!



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Stupid Question? - Commenting Code That Does Not Show in
Browser


Cold Fusion comments (ones that have three hyphens, !--- ---) don't show
in the browser because the CF server does not send them through to the web
server.  Regular HTML comments (ones that have only two hyphens, !-- --)
do get sent through.

HTH
Hatton

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 2:35 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Stupid Question? - Commenting Code That Does Not Show in
 Browser


 I want to place comments in the code for the other developers.
 However I do
 not want the comments to show up in the browser with "view source." Am I
 totally overlooking something?

 Thanks,
 Jeff
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RE: Uploading a Zip file with cfhttp

[Phoeun Pha]

i assume u are using codlfusion's scheduling thingy right?

what I would do is make a javascript that would submit the form, with the
correct path of the file embedded as the form value.





-Original Message-
From: Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 2:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Uploading a Zip file with cfhttp


Hello all,

I have hit was has proved to be an annoying little hurtle.  I have a
..zip
file which is normally manually uploaded to another server via a form.
But, they now want this to happen automatically every night so I switched
the process to use cfhttp.  However, the pesky little thing is not
accepting the file because "The requested file is not ASCII text and can not
be rendered."

Anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get this file to
automatically
work like the standard form feature?

Regards,

Nathan Focht
FlyFire
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RE: Stupid Question? - Commenting Code That Does Not Show in Brow ser

[Phoeun Pha]

heh, I beat u to that already




-Original Message-
From: Dylan Bromby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 2:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Stupid Question? - Commenting Code That Does Not Show in
Brow ser


whoever asked this question or is interested in a useful answer - ignore the
response below.

use the !--- --- vs. !-- -- as many experienced CF developers have
already posted in this thread.



-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Stupid Question? - Commenting Code That Does Not Show in
Brow ser


this is what i would do.

u will have to work a login page (u decide how to verify it).  all this
login page will do is set a session or application variable to true, or some
value.  then in your actual code, i would wrap a condition around your
comment, to only let the comment show (on the browser side) if that variable
is TRUE or present or whatever.


ex.

I log in witha  correct login and password, and it sets session.snifflebutt
to TRUE.   in my CFM code, i owuld do this around the comments


CFIF IsDefined("session.snifflebutt")
---  You are all a bunch of snifflebutts  ---
/CFIF

if a regular person goes to the site, they wont be able to view the comment.
slick, eh?  send me money!



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Stupid Question? - Commenting Code That Does Not Show in
Browser


I want to place comments in the code for the other developers.  However I do
not want the comments to show up in the browser with "view source." Am I
totally overlooking something?

Thanks,
Jeff
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RE: tracking visitors on CF pages?

[Phoeun Pha]

blah, I'd just get a host that'll provide that stuff for ya. heh like
www.hostcentric.com
they track by sessions, hits, IP machines, man, anything everything!  they
got charts.
(I'm not promoting hostcentric in anyway, my point is to use other people's
stuff)

otherwise, code all that stuff yourself man


this is how i would approach it.

in your application.cfm, write code that inserts the user's IP or whatever
into the database,a nd also the name of the page.  that's purty easy now
ain't it.

now, all u gotta do is make some page that pulls up that info and show u
what pages get how many hits

-Original Message-
From: French, Donna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 2:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: tracking visitors on CF pages?


How can I track the stats on a CF/Access driven site
so that I know which products pages, etc. are getting
traffic?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,

Donna French
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RE: Stupid Question? - Commenting Code That Does Not Show in Brow ser

[Phoeun Pha]

Thanx for that saying.  Although i don't think it's a stupid idea, it's not
the best idea, but hey variety is good.  had I known of the coldfusion
comment, I would have recommended that instead.

sorry, I'm not as advanced as most of yall :)


-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Stupid Question? - Commenting Code That Does Not Show in
Brow ser



   I'd recommend against using this path...

   I'm reminded of something someone once said to me:  A stupid idea that 
works isn't a stupid idea.



At 01:45 PM 04/03/2001 -0500, you wrote:
this is what i would do.

u will have to work a login page (u decide how to verify it).  all this
login page will do is set a session or application variable to true, or
some
value.  then in your actual code, i would wrap a condition around your
comment, to only let the comment show (on the browser side) if that
variable
is TRUE or present or whatever.


ex.

I log in witha  correct login and password, and it sets session.snifflebutt
to TRUE.   in my CFM code, i owuld do this around the comments


CFIF IsDefined("session.snifflebutt")
---  You are all a bunch of snifflebutts  ---
/CFIF

if a regular person goes to the site, they wont be able to view the
comment.
slick, eh?  send me money!



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Stupid Question? - Commenting Code That Does Not Show in
Browser


I want to place comments in the code for the other developers.  However I
do
not want the comments to show up in the browser with "view source." Am I
totally overlooking something?

Thanks,
Jeff

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RE: date range search

[Phoeun Pha]

take out the single quotes from the query.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Orlini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: date range search


I'm working on a search form which can search between a range of dates. I'm
using the code below and searching a orderdate column with the dates
converted to 00/00/00 format and specified as Date/Time in Access.

When I run the search (which uses a drop-down menu) I get a "data type
mismatch in criteria expression" error.

I beleive it may be with the dateformat function. Any suggestions please?

Thanks in advance. :)

---

CFSET startdate = "#Createdate(Year,Month,Day)#"
CFSET enddate = "#Createdate(Year2,Month2,Day2)#"
cfset startdate = #dateformat(startdate,'mm/dd/yy')#
cfset enddate = #dateformat(enddate,'mm/dd/yy')#

CFQUERY name="getwweb" datasource="wwebsales"
SELECT * FROM wwebsales
where orderdate between '#startdate#' and '#enddate#'
/cfquery
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RE: tracking visitors on CF pages?

[Phoeun Pha]

oh!!!, thats an another thing then.  make a table, call it PRODUCT STATS,
have 2 fields, one containing the product ID  for every product u got, and
the next field contains a default number, 0.  each time someone hits that
ID, increment the number up by 1, then u will know how many times that
product was accessed.

b

-Original Message-
From: French, Donna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: tracking visitors on CF pages?


my host provides stats and i can tell which cf templates
are getting the traffic, etc. (ie: productdetails.cfm)

but i want to be able to tell down to the actual product
(ie: productdetails.cfm?ID=10)

Thanks,
Donna French 



-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 2:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: tracking visitors on CF pages?


blah, I'd just get a host that'll provide that stuff for ya. heh like
www.hostcentric.com
they track by sessions, hits, IP machines, man, anything everything!  they
got charts.
(I'm not promoting hostcentric in anyway, my point is to use other people's
stuff)

otherwise, code all that stuff yourself man


this is how i would approach it.

in your application.cfm, write code that inserts the user's IP or whatever
into the database,a nd also the name of the page.  that's purty easy now
ain't it.

now, all u gotta do is make some page that pulls up that info and show u
what pages get how many hits

-Original Message-
From: French, Donna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 2:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: tracking visitors on CF pages?


How can I track the stats on a CF/Access driven site
so that I know which products pages, etc. are getting
traffic?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,

Donna French
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RE: dynamic form builder

[Phoeun Pha]

If you dont happen to find one, I'll create one for you (prolly take me 2
days or 8 hours whichever comes first) hehe.

all i will do is create the interface and the database.  how u want to use
that data and make the options show is up to you, and i will help u with
that if needed.

errr, for free, cuz i am bored.

hehehe









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Hi
Does anyone knows any cf application does dynamic form creation? I am
looking
for an application is database driven, it can allow user to create a input
form
and each element of form can be defined to display in different type, such
as
select box, input box, radio box, .. etc.

Any help will be really appreciate!

YC
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RE: tracking visitors on CF pages?

[Phoeun Pha]

ack!  this is the second time I've provided stupid answers today!
I didn't know coldfusion's log files logged info to that extent!  Thanks
yall!





-Original Message-
From: Tumy, Brad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: tracking visitors on CF pages?


this method really adds a lot of database transactions...not to mention more
network traffic. I am sure with some tweaking a tool like Webtrends could
tell you what you are looking for...provided you can access your log files.

-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 4:40 PM
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Subject: RE: tracking visitors on CF pages?


oh!!!, thats an another thing then.  make a table, call it PRODUCT STATS,
have 2 fields, one containing the product ID  for every product u got, and
the next field contains a default number, 0.  each time someone hits that
ID, increment the number up by 1, then u will know how many times that
product was accessed.

b

-Original Message-
From: French, Donna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:16 PM
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Subject: RE: tracking visitors on CF pages?


my host provides stats and i can tell which cf templates
are getting the traffic, etc. (ie: productdetails.cfm)

but i want to be able to tell down to the actual product
(ie: productdetails.cfm?ID=10)

Thanks,
Donna French 



-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 2:40 PM
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Subject: RE: tracking visitors on CF pages?


blah, I'd just get a host that'll provide that stuff for ya. heh like
www.hostcentric.com
they track by sessions, hits, IP machines, man, anything everything!  they
got charts.
(I'm not promoting hostcentric in anyway, my point is to use other people's
stuff)

otherwise, code all that stuff yourself man


this is how i would approach it.

in your application.cfm, write code that inserts the user's IP or whatever
into the database,a nd also the name of the page.  that's purty easy now
ain't it.

now, all u gotta do is make some page that pulls up that info and show u
what pages get how many hits

-Original Message-
From: French, Donna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 2:29 PM
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Subject: tracking visitors on CF pages?


How can I track the stats on a CF/Access driven site
so that I know which products pages, etc. are getting
traffic?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,

Donna French
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RE: Here's A Good One...

[Phoeun Pha]

you have to tell it to display median time, not military time :P
(use the timeformat function)

-Original Message-
From: Robert Forsyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 4:03 PM
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Subject: Here's A Good One...


Since the time change this weekend
The server clock says its 5:00pm and #hour(now())# says 16.

Any thoughts??  Thanks

Robert Forsyth
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