RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)

2002-11-13 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews and we are working on 2 more. -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:Stacy.Young;sfcommerce.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Remoting rocks. -Original

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2002-11-13 Thread Clint Tredway
: Sad Day) Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews and we are working on 2 more. -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:Stacy.Young;sfcommerce.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Remoting rocks

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2002-11-13 Thread Matt Liotta
. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews

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2002-11-13 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
(was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Have you tried using Flash Remoting with anything other than CFMX? Have you tried marshalling complex objects? Have you tried marshalling objects with large blocks of text? Have you tried any of the above on mixed platforms i.e. Windows and Linux? Matt Liotta President

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2002-11-13 Thread Matt Liotta
AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Matt, What we have done is created 2 great applications under budget and before the deadline - increasing our margin by 15%. We have clients begging for more. That makes the ROI on flash remoting looking pretty darn good

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2002-11-13 Thread Stacy Young
No No No Yes -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Have you tried using Flash Remoting with anything other than CFMX? Have you tried marshalling complex

RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)

2002-11-13 Thread Stacy Young
-Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) I certainly didn't advocate not using Flash Remoting. I was simply making others aware of problems with it and reminding them

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2002-11-13 Thread Kevin Graeme
: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Have you tried using Flash Remoting with anything other than CFMX? Have you tried marshalling complex objects? Have you tried marshalling objects with large blocks of text? Have you tried any of the above on mixed platforms i.e. Windows and Linux? Matt

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2002-11-13 Thread Matt Liotta
Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:kgraeme;facstaff.wisc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Matt, can

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2002-11-13 Thread Kevin Graeme
Thanks, that was a lot clearer than the information I was wading through on MSDN about it. -Kevin -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) marshalling

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2002-11-12 Thread Jon Hall
Will there be a Community Manager MX beta program? ;) -- jon mailto:jonhall;ozline.net Monday, November 11, 2002, 11:52:56 PM, you wrote: MC this is from an email that i sent out earlier: MC We will be providing more information on a new, enhanced community MC manager position in the very

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2002-11-12 Thread Andrew Tyrone
! On that note, I am glad that Vernon will be around as he's a good voice of reason to this list, at least in my opinion. -Original Message- From: Joe Eugene [mailto:Jebebox;earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day Yeah.. really.. what

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2002-11-12 Thread Matt Liotta
[mailto:atyrone;optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day I don't understand why everyone jumps to the conclusion that MM is cutting back. Maybe Vernon left because he wanted to, who knows. As with the Contribute thread (I'm glad I made an OT

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2002-11-12 Thread Mike Chambers
: RE: SOT: Sad Day I don't understand why everyone jumps to the conclusion that MM is cutting back. Maybe Vernon left because he wanted to, who knows. As with the Contribute thread (I'm glad I made an OT sub-folder for cf-talk), people start assuming and making stuff up before they know

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2002-11-12 Thread Jeffry Houser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andrew Tyrone [mailto:atyrone;optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day I don't understand why everyone jumps to the conclusion that MM is cutting back. Maybe Vernon left

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2002-11-12 Thread Vernon Viehe
;earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day Yeah.. really.. what happened? Vernon has been very resourceful to this community.. i mean.. i got several post replies from Vernon quite late at night. Vern keep good track of issues and problems So

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2002-11-12 Thread Mike Chambers
] -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jeff;farcryfly.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day Importance: High The fact that I have seen the same ( or similar ) words said a bunch of times on this list makes me suspicious

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2002-11-12 Thread William Wheatley
Well when we ask what happened and nobody is gonna tell then you start to assume ;) - Original Message - From: Mike Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:32 PM Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day that is correct. we are not cutting back

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2002-11-12 Thread William Wheatley
:) LOL yea now what were you saying Andrew?? :) - Original Message - From: Vernon Viehe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:00 PM Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day I'm not going to comment on the situation, other than to clarify that it wasn't my

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2002-11-12 Thread Tony Carcieri
for breakfast, watching cartoons..errr...looking for jobs but after a while, the crumbs add up and and the beer runs out Best of Luck man! Big T -Original Message- From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:vernviehe;yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day

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2002-11-12 Thread Adrocknaphobia Jones
. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andrew Tyrone [mailto:atyrone;optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day I don't understand why everyone jumps to the conclusion that MM is cutting back. Maybe

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2002-11-12 Thread Mike Chambers
;ediets.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day Importance: High Well when we ask what happened and nobody is gonna tell then you start to assume ;) - Original Message - From: Mike Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED

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2002-11-12 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ -Original Message- From: William Wheatley [mailto:bill;ediets.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day Well when we ask what happened and nobody is gonna tell then you start to assume

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2002-11-12 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day No matter what the situation is Verne, one thing is for sure: its MM's loss. You (and Ray) are a TREMENDOUS asset to the community and I for one, think they made a huge mistake. I have been laid off twice and it truly sucks. Yea, it's nice to lounge around naked

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2002-11-12 Thread Tony Weeg
, November 12, 2002 4:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day Jeff, I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a little over a year ago. The sad fact of the matter is that MS is more trustworthy than MM

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2002-11-12 Thread William Wheatley
: Mosh Teitelbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:25 PM Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day As has been said before in this thread (though I can't recall who said it), it's really none of our business how or why Verne left. That's up to Verne to decide

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2002-11-12 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day does anyone really think cf could go by the wayside? ..tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Fleet Management Solutions www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia Jones

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2002-11-12 Thread Adrocknaphobia Jones
Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day does anyone really think cf could go by the wayside? .tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Fleet Management Solutions www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:adrocknatalk;hotmail.com

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2002-11-12 Thread Tony Carcieri
WAY to much work for me! ;^) -Original Message- From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:mosh.teitelbaum;evoch.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day The trick is to brew your own beer. 8^) -- Mosh Teitelbaum evoch, LLC Tel: (301) 625-9191 Fax

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2002-11-12 Thread William Wheatley
to listen to its paying customers - Original Message - From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:43 PM Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day Nope..I think it's here to stay. That said, if the community continues to slam the company so hard

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2002-11-12 Thread Andrew Tyrone
. -Original Message- From: William Wheatley [mailto:bill;ediets.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day :) LOL yea now what were you saying Andrew?? :) - Original Message - From: Vernon Viehe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL

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2002-11-12 Thread Andrew Tyrone
, the bottom line is people proclaimed MM cutbacks in this area before they knew anything. That's just a fact. -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day No one needs to jump to conclusions

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2002-11-12 Thread Tony Carcieri
Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day I don't understand why everyone jumps to the conclusion that MM is cutting back. Maybe Vernon left because he wanted to, who knows. As with the Contribute thread (I'm glad I made an OT sub-folder for cf-talk), people start assuming and making stuff up before they know

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2002-11-12 Thread Andrew Tyrone
Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day You are off the point as well. It was someone who said why do we ASSUME MM let him go ;) Vern said he did not leave under his own power. SO that just shut down Andrews thought on it And i suppose this would be agood time to move this over to cf-community

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2002-11-12 Thread Adrocknaphobia Jones
Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day Nope..I think it's here to stay. That said, if the community continues to slam the company so hard mabye they'll just drop CF out of spite!! Everyone on this list (with a few exceptions) does NOT have all the pieces of the puzzle. If you don't know the whole story, ask

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2002-11-12 Thread Andrew Tyrone
at MM any more. -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:tony;navtrak.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day does anyone really think cf could go by the wayside? ..tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer Information System Design

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2002-11-12 Thread Andrew Tyrone
;mediaweave.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day Obviously i do not expect an answer but I think some of us are wondering: if you are dedicating more resources to the coldfusion community and that we will be announcing a new community manager

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2002-11-12 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
, but there you go. -- Mosh Teitelbaum evoch, LLC Tel: (301) 625-9191 Fax: (301) 933-3651 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ -Original Message- From: Tony Carcieri [mailto:tony;mediaweave.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day

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2002-11-12 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Hey Adam, see below for comments... From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:59 PM Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day You know Bryan, a good amount of people on this list have invested their careers in Cold Fusion. Yes

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2002-11-12 Thread Everett, Al
No way. It's great. And a true labor of love. -Original Message- From: Tony Carcieri [mailto:tony;mediaweave.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day WAY to much work for me! ;^) -Original Message- From: Mosh

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2002-11-12 Thread Miller, Kevin
To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day that is correct. we are not cutting back. in fact, we will be dedicating more resources to the coldfusion community. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andrew Tyrone [mailto:atyrone;optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday

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2002-11-12 Thread jon hall
Ever want to respond to an off-topic thread, asking to please keep it on topic, but then think that maybe it will just end when everyone says their piece, but then it continues to go on, then you think about sending that email again, then stop again...and the thread continues to go on, then...

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2002-11-12 Thread Bryan Stevenson
: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:26 PM Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day Or perhaps it was none of the above and he left on his own. With all due respect to Verne, let's move on to more productive discussions. Kevin -Original Message- From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:mosh.teitelbaum;evoch.com

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2002-11-12 Thread Matt Liotta
[mailto:kevin.miller;medtronic.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day Or perhaps it was none of the above and he left on his own. With all due respect to Verne, let's move on to more productive discussions. Kevin -Original Message- From

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2002-11-12 Thread David Hannum \(Ohio University\)
I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a little over a year ago. ~~ Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat chance. If the software doesn't sail, these

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2002-11-12 Thread samcfug
= - Original Message - From: David Hannum (Ohio University) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:28 PM Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day | I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone | seems to act like CF

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2002-11-12 Thread Lee Fuller
Ok.. Now it's getting nutz. Time to take this to CF-Community Just my .02... ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription:

Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)

2002-11-12 Thread Matt Liotta
, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a little over a year ago. ~~ Do you think MM will keep CF around

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2002-11-12 Thread Tilbrook, Peter
Or Macromedia-Talk. MD has setup quite a few distint lists now. Full list available at: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/ ** The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments to it, is intended for the use of

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2002-11-12 Thread Brook Davies
- From: David Hannum (Ohio University) [mailto:hannum;ohio.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire

RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)

2002-11-12 Thread Tilbrook, Peter
(Ohio University) [mailto:hannum;ohio.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a little over a year ago

RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)

2002-11-12 Thread Stacy Young
Remoting rocks. -Original Message- From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:Peter.Tilbrook;abcb.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Memories of claims about Spectra's capabilities come to mind. Flash Remoting certainly

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2002-11-11 Thread Vernon Viehe
Hey Sandy, You can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll be taking some time to relax, but you'll be seeing me around. I'll be able to spend more time working with CF and the other MX software, so I'll be here and in the forums participating as a member of the community! -Vern Sandy Clark [EMAIL

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2002-11-11 Thread Tony Weeg
all ye present please open your can of beer and pour a bit out in honor of Vern... tony -Original Message- From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:vernviehe;yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day Hey Sandy, You can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED

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2002-11-11 Thread Ken Wilson
To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day Hey Sandy, You can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll be taking some time to relax, but you'll be seeing me around. I'll be able to spend more time working with CF and the other MX software, so I'll be here and in the forums participating as a member

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2002-11-11 Thread Lee Fuller
be in touch, and sorry to see that you're no longer with MM. It IS truly a sad day. Lee | -Original Message- | From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:vernviehe;yahoo.com] | Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:50 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day | | | Hey Sandy, | You can reach me

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2002-11-11 Thread Mike Chambers
Wilson [mailto:kwilson;carolinapro.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day Sorry to hear that news Vernon but glad to hear you'll be sticking around. I do hope this doesn't indicate that MM intends to reduce their interaction

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2002-11-11 Thread Jeffry Houser
I'm sure the question on everyone's mind is What happened? Wasn't it about a year ago where they actually added this position? At 03:50 PM 11/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: Hey Sandy, You can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll be taking some time to relax, but you'll be seeing me around. I'll

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2002-11-11 Thread Joe Eugene
[mailto:jeff;farcryfly.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day I'm sure the question on everyone's mind is What happened? Wasn't it about a year ago where they actually added this position? At 03:50 PM 11/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: Hey Sandy

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2002-11-11 Thread Mike Chambers
community. We will send out additional details about this new position very soon. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joe Eugene [mailto:Jebebox;earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day So whats the deal MM