Hi gang,
I love commons-math, one problem though!
lets take a look at the dependecies
common-lang: 189 kb
commons-beanutils: 116 kb
commons-collections-SNAPSHOT.jar 463
commons-discovery 70 kb
commons-logging-1.0.3.jar 31 kb kb
Thats 850 kb!!! of 3rd party libraries that are only used in a few
I, for one, like the idea of commons projects depending on each other
when necessary. There is always a lot of controversy with regards to
including another jar that I don't quite understand. I agree that if
there are only 1 or 2 references, it may be reasonable to include the
dependencies
On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 12:10 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:
I think that that javadoc for remove is incorrect when it says:
This implementation calls coderemove()/code on each collection.
It stops when it finds the element to be removed. The contract needs
to be made more explicit here. It
On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 07:48 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
I've updated the class in line with commons standards/documentation
etc. It
will probably end up in the decorators subpackage, as it decorates
other
collections.
A few style questions about this...
You have changed the array
On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 09:26 AM, __matthewHawthorne wrote:
I, for one, like the idea of commons projects depending on each other
when necessary. There is always a lot of controversy with regards to
including another jar that I don't quite understand. I agree that
if there are
This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of places.
However, I think it is a bit shortsighted. If you are in a non server
environment, I understand the problem, but in a server environment with lots
of harddrive space, I don't. Additionally, since in a server app you are
Hehehe, thats a novel idea. Ok to be devils advocate...
Your coming at this from one jar perspective. Which leads me to
wonder why having math be one jar is important to you? Can you please
elaborate on this?
And to the rest of the community I postulate: Is this a critical usage case?
The
Brian McCallister wrote:
On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 09:26 AM, __matthewHawthorne wrote:
Why does a math module depend on a logging module for deployment? Have
the unit tests log, not the math functions.
=)
-Brian
Bright Idea...I hadn't really thought about that. :-)
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This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of
places.
However, I think it is a bit shortsighted. If you are in a non server
environment, I understand the problem, but in a server environment with
lots
of harddrive space, I
David Graham wrote:
In this case, it looks like commons-lang and commons-logging are only
needed because math doesn't use Java 1.4 as the base level. Moving to
Java 1.4 has the advantage of providing exception chaining and logging in
the Java core and eliminates 2 jars. Obviously, the
The need to support 1.3 is diminishing over time. Java 1.4 is available
and runs well on all the major platforms I can think of.
We should be careful with 1.3 vs. 1.4. From my POV, sadly, the majority of
our customers run on a version WebSphere that only supports 1.3, which means
that our
I also like the idea of clearly established dependencies.
It would be nice for example, if we could slice and dice [lang] and
[collections] such that they could depend on a core set of jars.
Gary
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From: __matthewHawthorne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday,
I had another look at the current implementation of And/Or last night.
As the implementation already uses a collection, why not providing a
constructor with a collection as a parameter:
public Or(Collection collection)
{
this.list.addAll(collection);
}
(Or adding predicate one by one
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From: Matt Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:08 AM
Subject: Commons Math Contributions
I recently download the math commons subproject and would like to help
out.
This is my first open source contribution
Gary Gregory wrote:
The need to support 1.3 is diminishing over time. Java 1.4 is available
and runs well on all the major platforms I can think of.
We should be careful with 1.3 vs. 1.4. From my POV, sadly, the majority of
our customers run on a version WebSphere that only supports 1.3,
I'm in the same boat, a good answer would be appreciated (I've gotten a wide
variety).
Another thing I'm wondering is should we add ourselves as an author when we
submit a patch or is that just if you're a commiter?
worse is better
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From: Matt Cliff [mailto:[EMAIL
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Robert Leland wrote:
You've acknowledged that when you commit any code to Apache you give up
ownership of that code.
That's not quite right. When you commit any code to Apache (under the
Contributors License Agreement), you grant the ASF a non-exclusive right
to that code.
Did I have the right to do [develop HiveMind on WebCT's time]?
At the time, I was 100% certain I did ...
No one is suggesting that you didn't act in good faith, Howard. What is
making a mountain out of a molehill is your apparent unwillingness to
involve the proper channels in the process. A
Mike and Matt,
To try to answer your questions as best as possible. First and foremost,
become familiar with the goals and guiding principles we initially set
out to maintain the math project here.
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/math/proposal.html
How do we go about the process of getting math added to the commons
components list in bugzilla?
-Mark
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I recently download the math commons subproject and would like to help
out.
This is my first open source contribution effort and am looking forward
to extending to other projects. I have a background in Mathematics (MS
and thesis work in Stochastic Analysis) and for the past several
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:54:14 -0800 (PST), David Graham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Agreed, especially because Jakarta's mission is to create *server*
side libraries.
[...]
The need to support 1.3 is diminishing over time. Java 1.4 is
available and runs well on all the major platforms I can think
I recently download the math commons subproject and would like to help
out.
This is my first open source contribution effort and am looking forward
to extending to other projects. I have a background in Mathematics (MS
and thesis work in Stochastic Analysis) and for the past several
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003, Mark R. Diggory [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
How do we go about the process of getting math added to the commons
components list in bugzilla?
Done.
In general there are a bunch of people on this list who have karma to
do so, so just ask - but don't do so burried deep in a
J. Pietchmann (for karmic rights in math project)
+1 = 6
+0 = 0
-0 = 0
-1 = 0
Pietchmann, you need to complete this and send it back to the pmc.
Karma request form:
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CVS karma request
userid: ...
Requested karma:
Brent Warden (for new committer)
+1 = 6
+0 = 0
-0 = 0
-1 = 0
Al Chou (for new committer)
+1 = 6
+0 = 0
-0 = 0
-1 = 0
I'm still not fully versed on the process of setting up the accounts
etc. I remember that I had to complete some info concerning my account
name and personal info. Al and Brent
Thanks :-)
Stefan Bodewig wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003, Mark R. Diggory [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
How do we go about the process of getting math added to the commons
components list in bugzilla?
Done.
In general there are a bunch of people on this list who have karma to
do so, so just ask - but
Brian McCallister wrote:
On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 12:10 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:
I think that that javadoc for remove is incorrect when it says:
This implementation calls coderemove()/code on each collection.
It stops when it finds the element to be removed. The contract needs
to be
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:06:37AM -0800, Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
There are some others but I need to classify them and decide which ones
are generic enough to be part of commons-functor...
Obviously, I will provide everything with complete Javadoc support and
test cases whenever it is
I would just do it as an internal class for the time being.
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Herve Quiroz wrote:
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:06:37AM -0800, Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
There are some others but I need to classify them and decide which ones
are generic enough to be part of commons-functor...
On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 11:31 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:
Note the similarity to the API doc for add:
Ensures that this collection contains the specified element (optional
operation). Returns true if this collection changed as a result of the
call. (Returns false if this collection does
FWIW the math proposal actually says:
Emphasis on small, easily integrated components rather than large
libraries with
The last comment suggests another possibly useful method: toList(),
returning an aggregated collection consisting of all of the objects
in the composite collections.
In this case, will there be a clever way to return an aggregation of this sort that
isn't simply a new object with copies of
Can some karma gifted person add DbUtils to the Commons
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Can some karma gifted person add DbUtils to the Commons.
Weird, Yahoo truncated my message. DbUtils is already in the Commons. We
just need it added to bugzilla.
David
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I've been reviewing the source code as I've been contemplating having my
existing pool implementations delegate to the commons pool implementations.
One issue that I have, however, is that the current pool implementations do
not appear to deal with 'abandoned' pool objects. We all agree that
Some comments inline. I'll use the voting syntax, in an effort to be
concise, not formal.
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
I would like to propose the following changes for the primitives code as we
establish it:
New interface Collectable (better names?). Superinterface of
Howdy,
Tomcat 4.x uses DBCP 2.0 and that version of DBCP supports reaping and
logging of abandoned connections. DBCP 2.1 marks all these methods as
deprecated for reasons that are unknown to me, but I bet you could find
out by searching this list's archives. Hopefully DBCP 2.2 and later
will
Eric,
I haven't thought about the details of accessing properties in a
singleton yet.
In the first line I was interested in the advantages such an approach
would have for initialization of the configuration framework. On its
creation the singleton instance could locate the configuration
Tomcat uses BasicDataSource in the DBCP component
(http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/dbcp/) as its default datasource implementation.
Like you said it has support for abandoned connections.
See
I'm trying organize this thread a little bit more than was accomplished
in the discussion.
1.) Argument exists concerning the dependency requirements of Commons
Math. To in fact be modular and easily integrated some discrepancy
arises concerning interdependency with other commons components.
Mark wrote:
Eric Pugh wrote:
This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of
places.
However, I think it is a bit shortsighted. If you are in a non server
environment, I understand the problem, but in a server environment with
lots
of harddrive space, I don't.
olegk 2003/11/05 12:45:34
Modified:httpclient/src/java/org/apache/commons/httpclient
HttpConnection.java HttpMethodBase.java
httpclient/src/test/org/apache/commons/httpclient
TestHttpConnection.java
Log:
Changelog:
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--- Charles Hudak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark wrote:
Eric Pugh wrote:
This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of
places.
However, I think it is a bit shortsighted. If you are in a non
server
environment, I understand the problem, but in a server environment
Sorry for a little offtopic post.
Charles Hudak wrote:
I think that this comment is a little shortsighted. We are still using
weblogic 5.1 and constantly have problems with the multitude of third party
libraries that we are using. WL 5.1 does not seem to find libraries in the
WEB-INF/lib
Charles Hudak wrote:
Mark wrote:
Eric Pugh wrote:
This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of
places.
However, I think it is a bit shortsighted. If you are in a non server
environment, I understand the problem, but in a server environment with
lots
of harddrive
David Graham wrote:
--- Charles Hudak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark wrote:
Eric Pugh wrote:
This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of
places.
However, I think it is a bit shortsighted. If you are in a non
server
environment, I understand the problem, but in a
--- Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Graham wrote:
--- Charles Hudak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark wrote:
Eric Pugh wrote:
This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of
places.
However, I think it is a bit shortsighted. If you are in a non
Phil Steitz wrote:
I agree with your assessment of that platform; but your comment raises
an interesting question: to what extent should commons component design
decisions be influenced by characteristics of the user base. My opinion
is lots. Lame and broken as it may be, WebLogic 5 on NT
The toCollection(), toList(), etc. stuff would be no different (other than the
collection overhead) from toArray(). What would get copied are object references.
I understood the proposed methods would work in this way. I guess my questions is why
it would be particularly useful to add these
Arun Thomas wrote:
The toCollection(), toList(), etc. stuff would be no different
(other than the collection overhead) from toArray(). What would get
copied are object references.
I understood the proposed methods would work in this way. I guess my
questions is why it would be particularly
There's been a Convergence Exception used in ContinuedFraction and
special.Gamma for some time now.
I was able to remove the logging references from the util.Transformer
implementations by creating a TransformerException and wrapping
exceptions and passing them out to the application. This
Hi,
I was wondering if someone could grant me sandbox karma so I can make some
contributions to commons-naming. My apache CVS username is brett.
Thanks in advance,
Brett
As people may or may not be aware, the sandbox contains an implementation of
primitive collections that works differently from [primitives].
* [primitives] (commons-proper) - IntCollection is a top-level interface in
its own right. A wrapper is needed to integrate with JDK Collection.
*
rwaldhoff2003/11/05 16:55:23
Modified:primitives/xdocs index.xml
Log:
add link to 1.0 release
Revision ChangesPath
1.6 +4 -4 jakarta-commons/primitives/xdocs/index.xml
Index: index.xml
===
From: Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyone have any objections to committing this to the decorators
subpackage?
Phil
+1. The test needs work as its not a collections-testframework test.
Stephen
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rwaldhoff2003/11/05 17:06:58
Modified:primitives project.xml build.xml
Log:
update version number to 2.0-dev
Revision ChangesPath
1.10 +1 -1 jakarta-commons/primitives/project.xml
Index: project.xml
rwaldhoff2003/11/05 17:07:09
Modified:docs components.html
xdocscomponents.xml
Log:
update for primitives 1.0 release
Revision ChangesPath
1.128 +14 -9 jakarta-commons/docs/components.html
Index: components.html
Stephen,
Have you any tests to prove there is actually a performance gain?
Surely either (or both) the java compiler or the JVM should be
responsible for optimizations such as this.
Gareth.
Stephen Colebourne wrote:
From: Brian McCallister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Monday, November 3, 2003, at
Any feedback on this Command implementation?
The idea is that as a chain of commands is executing objects get
aggregated into a map. The context holds a reference to the map. At
the tail end of the execution chain, this command places the objects
from the map into the request as request
Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
We're not the ones whom Howard needs to discuss this with.
Yes and no. I'm on the Jakarta PMC, you're an ASF member, we're
both jakarta commons committers, so I belive and as I understand
it, we are among the ones Howard
The Jakarta Commons Team is pleased to announce the first release of
Jakarta Commons Primitives.
Primitives provides a collection of types and
utilities optimized for working with Java primitives (boolean, byte, char,
double, float, int, long, short). Generally, the Commons-Primitives
classes are
Hello Eric,
From RFC 2965, HTTP State Management, Section 3:
value = token | quoted-string
[...]
cookie = NAME = VALUE *(; set-cookie-av)
VALUE = value
That is part of the BNF grammar for the set-cookie2 header.
All the examples in section 4 use
Hi, I'm using HttpClient 2.0 rc2.
I've got a pbm when trying to connect to a HTTPS
server (with a client certificate), using a proxy.
I saw the bug #7643 was resolved, but it seems it
doesn't work with a client certificate.
Can anybody help me ?
Thanks.
Here are the logs :
2003/11/05
Thanks for your answer,
Indeed, I tried a development version of HttpClient,
since HttpClient v2.0 rc2 didn't work as I expected.
Here are the logs with 2.0 rc2 :
2003/11/05 11:16:05:140 CET [DEBUG] HttpConnection -
-HttpConnection.setSoTimeout(0)
2003/11/05 11:16:05:187 CET [DEBUG]
isn't that just a timeout?
Samuel BONNANFANT wrote:
and... 2 mins later :
main, SEND SSL v3.1 ALERT: fatal, description =
close_notify
main, WRITE: SSL v3.1 Alert, length = 2
and the exception :
javax.net.ssl.SSLException: error while writing to
socket
It is a timeout, yes.
But if I don't use the proxy, I don't get the timeout.
--- Ortwin_Glück [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
isn't that just a timeout?
Samuel BONNANFANT wrote:
and... 2 mins later :
main, SEND SSL v3.1 ALERT: fatal, description =
close_notify
main, WRITE: SSL v3.1
OK. That clears things up quite a bit. What proxy are you using? Is it HTTP/1.1 or
HTTP/1.0 compliant proxy? If it doubt use HTTP/1.0
Oleg
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From: Samuel BONNANFANT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:37
To: Commons HttpClient Project
Proxies usually close connections after a certain idle time to free up
their resources because they can not tell if a connection is just idle
or if the client died. You should catch this situation and reopen the
connection in your code.
I guess HttpClient would actually even be able to handle
I think close and flush should still throw recoverable exceptions, when
the connection has been used. This will allow methods to be retried in
the event of an error on close/flush. Other than that it looks good.
Mike,
So be it. I'll leave alone close/flush of the wrapper stream.
If there
I'm using a free proxy : CCProxy 6.0 on win2k.
I don't know if it is HTTP/1.1 or HTTP/1.0 compliant,
and I don't know if I can choose.
Do you know other reliable proxy ?
--- Kalnichevski, Oleg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : OK.
That clears things up quite a bit. What proxy
are you using? Is it
Oleg,
I tried the following :
1) using classical SSLSocket with the proxy : that's
what I do if I don't want to use client certificate.
In this case, it works.
2) using SSLSocket from SecureProtocolSocketFactory
without proxy (connect directly to the server). In
this case, it works, too.
3) But
Samuel BONNANFANT wrote:
Do you know other reliable proxy ?
I guess the most widely used one is Squid.
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I would also recommend Squid
http://www.squid-cache.org/
Oleg
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From: Ortwin Glück [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 15:40
To: Commons HttpClient Project
Subject: Re: [Https proxy] Impossible to connect
Samuel BONNANFANT wrote:
Do you know
I finally succeed.
I found my error when debugging HttpClient code.
The only error was in my client part, I wrote :
ProtocolSocketFactory protoSocketFact = new
StrictSSLProtocolSocketFactory(_stNomFichierCert,
_stPassword, _bVerifServerHostName);
instead of :
StrictSSLProtocolSocketFactory
Hi All,
I'm curious why HttpClient is unable to redirect from one port to
another port. Does the HTTP spec disallow this, or does the internals
of HttpClient break if the redirect occurs?
Thanks,
Sam
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Sam,
The architecture of HttpClient 2.0 is, let me say, well..., sub-optimal.
The problem being that in HttpClient 2.0 redirects are handled by
HttpMethodBase class, whereas connections are managed by HttpClient
(through a HttpConnectionManager to be exact). As a result
HttpMethodBase class has no
I suppose that'll have to do. ;)
Do you happen to notice anything obviously wrong with the following
workaround code? It is designed just to work with GetRequests, although
it theoretically should work with any request that does not contain
output data (such as a Post). Any ideas on when 2.1
Sam,
I would not bother reusing the method. The whole method recycling
concept is kind of silly. It results in quite a bit of ugly code for
virtually negligible performance gain. Also, I would always have
HttpMethod#releaseConnection in a finally clause.
As to the release of HttpClient 2.1, I
Hi Oleg,
Thanks for the tips. Our use of the executeMethodRedirecting would as a
substitute for just calling client.executeMethod(method) which we've
placed in a class called HttpClientManager. As such, the outer-code
looks like:
HttpMethod get = new GetMethod(connectTo);
I had redirection issues with RC2, I downloaded a copy of the nightly build and it
solved the problem I was having.
Joe
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From: Sam Berlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:06 PM
To: Commons HttpClient Project
Subject: Redirect from one
Joe,
Nightlies are built against CVS HEAD. That means that what you got is
unstable (development) version of HttpClient. The 2.1 branch already
contains the code that fixes the cross-site redirect problem, as well as
other goodies, such as improved exception handling and the new
preference
Folks, this looks like an API error to me. The protocol security
should depend on the actual type of the factory passed to the
constructor, not on the type of the variable it is stored in!
Looking at the code, the only difference is the assignment of
true or false to the attribute secure. I
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