1) not any more
2) no
3) gentoo
4) opkg nightmares, very slow development, instability of existing core
software and i have no time to work on it. using a blackberry. it just
works.
On 12/29/2009 03:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
Do you use FR as your
can't we build in detection for that?
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
(NB: This compact debug output form is not optimal for recognizing #1024
anyways, you should rather watch for CSQ and CREG messages. If CSQ suddenly
drops to 99 and you get thrown out of the cell, then it's 100% clear you
actually i was vague/misleading in what i wrote. what i would like to
see is for the end user to be notified in a friendly fashion. like
injecting a service message into opimd/sms buffer
Petr Vanek wrote:
It exists already.
...another way is to use frameworkd with ti_calypso_sleep_mode =
someone please fix the trac.shr-projects.org website. you need to patch
trac: http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/3233
SHR wrote:
Your Trac password has been reset.
Here is your account information:
Login URL: http://wiki.shr-project.org/trac/login
Username: FirefighterBlu3
Password: x
that's an incorrect assumption. my providers only send one SMS
indicating i have an MMS to read. there isn't a second SMS with a
public URL. therefore i have zero chance of reading it unless i use my
own software to fetch the MMS and render it by hand.
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
AFAIK
you can't. there is no guarantee by your provider that you can read MMS
messages on any given phone. unless you bought a phone that indicates
it can do MMS and you receive one, great. if you have a black and white
dinosaur phone that doesn't do graphics and you get an MMS, you're just
plain out
howdy,
yup, we did. and unfortunately i had to ship my phone off for buzz
fix. i just got the box in the mail today and this is one of the top
items on my todo list this weekend. i've already put some code into
bluesms.py in prep for copying the pdu and storing it to see a) why the
two msgs,
is the interface usbX or ethX? (on both pc and freerunner)
tom wrote:
mhh, i dont know what to do,
- latest ubuntu
- android 1.5 alpha
cant ping it, ip (200) seems to be there (local), though the
ubuntu-network-manger cant connect to it...
regardless what i specify in /etc/interface for
MMS notification is sent as a URL via SMS.
bluesms.py has initial support for MMS however my phone has been out for
buzzfix for a while. with a growing number of phones and carriers,
you're only allowed to fetch that URL from the phone number it's
designated for. further, it's normal to require
good :) my work has been stunted for a few weeks while my phone is out
but it's my pet project :)
-david
Brock wrote:
On 2009.08.04.17.15, David Ford wrote:
| bluesms.py has initial support for MMS however my phone has been out for
| ..
bluesms.py is exactly what I was thinking
known issue with opkg. add more swap memory and file handles.
Robin Paulson wrote:
2009/7/25 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com:
i've been trying to install the latest navit (2398) from the navit
repository, and am having the usual problems with opkg not being able
to handle it. i've
Perhaps a handful of tile mirrors could be set up. I can offer some
space for this.
-david
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v1 please, i quite prefer the clean white background
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regarding the wiki page at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Using_QEMU_with_MokoMakefile, section
Compilation and use, does anyone have updated filenames/urls for the env
file? the current svn file refers to invalid urls and filenames.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qemu also appears to be
any general price range and is the usb port OTG for both client host?
it looks neat and if the price is good, i'd mount one in my car for
sensor gadget stuff
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because pidgin takes a lot of ram, is cpu heavy and does a lot of disk
activity. that wheel is sort of acceptable on a fat desktop, but not on
a cellphone :)
Yogiz wrote:
Rewrite Pidgin's UI to be as finger friendly as possible. That's
probably all we need. Why reinvent the wheel.
opkg list | grep glib
opkg list | grep gtk+
Jeff Sadowski wrote:
current pidgin development is talking about requiring a minimum of
glib 2.12.0 and gtk 2.10.0 I'm wondering what versions of glib and gtk
openmoko is on?
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mine is in the shop for buzz fix
Jeff Sadowski wrote:
output please I don't have an openmoko I could try loading the os on
my gumstix but I'm not sure how well it will work.
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doesn't that imply it doesn't work? having to reboot the phone to go
back to handset really means to me that it doesn't work.
Adam Jimerson wrote:
David Ford wrote:
hmm, perhaps the phone should ping the BT earpiece and see if it's
available before assuming it is :D
That should
i don't know where you got this information, but by far and large the OM
phones have never been touted as ready for end users by OM, or by the
developers working on the neo1973 or freerunner software.
while i share your angst that the phone has been out for so long and
software is still pretty
hmm, perhaps the phone should ping the BT earpiece and see if it's
available before assuming it is :D
Adam Jimerson wrote:
Yes thanks to the updated wiki page I also got my bt headset working, but
does
the phone see when the bt headset is turned off? After turning off my bt
headset and
some 2G cards were created less equal than others :/ i have two 4G
cards and both are entirely unusable inside the gt02. file system
corruption occurs within minutes. same cards are perfectly reliable on
my desktop and laptop.
The Digital Pioneer wrote:
I'm pretty sure all 8GB cards will be
there's plenty of end-user interest, but none of the BT headsets i've
tried are functional. i'm not willing to keep buying BT toy after BT
toy that doesn't work. for headsets they pair but then there's nothing
but silence. buttons are useless and playing audio outside phone calls
is also
just ignore it, force it, or play hop skotch. i ignored this for about
a month before forcing it.
Petr Vanek wrote:
$ opkg upgrade
* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for
frameworkd-config-shr-dev:
* frameworkd-config-shr (=
Yes, and he and I discussed it on IRC a few minutes after all 4
postings. He clicked to submit and it didn't respond so he clicked
again and tried yet again etc.
While it appeared that the web interface wasn't posting to him, it
actually did post which made him post it four times. In my
For those of you who post using nabble -- please reconsider.
Nabble posts duplicates. The below was posted by nabble four times.
The headers clearly indicate nabble at fault with four different
originating message IDs.
Additionally, many people report problems with nabble's javascript (no,
people have different ideas about how to use their devices. regarding
netiquette, opinion varies and there is no one solution which fits
everyone best. not every wants to use text based clients, nor scroll to
the end of a page. regardless of it being near instant or several
steps, they are
mind you, while i've enjoyed the convenience of learning and writing my
sms app in python/pygtk, when i'm done learning it'll definitely be
redone in C. i'm also interested in seeing what vala has to offer and
the contrast of it with C.
-david
On 06/25/09 05:15, David Fokkema wrote:
But it
actually - and i'm not picking on you, it really bugs me that developers
think oh, i don't need to trim this down and it's ok to suck up more
resources because next year ram will be cheaper
that's the reason why we have desktops that still bog down with half a
dozen programs running even
have you ever tried reading an ever growing message thread on your FR?
scrolling isn't easy, nor is it fast.
-d
On 06/25/09 08:14, Matthias Apitz wrote:
I think one (you and others) should not do top posting; in addition I
think that the full thread is less than zero usefull;
do you understand the weight involved with using c++? without very very
careful management, c++ is rather hefty for embedded devices. granted,
having 128M to work in is indeed far more tenable than smaller devices
but it's still onerous.
C is much more lightweight and very functional. any
that is one typical aspect.
Michal Brzozowski wrote:
2009/6/24 David Ford da...@blue-labs.org mailto:da...@blue-labs.org
do you understand the weight involved with using c++? without
very very
careful management, c++ is rather hefty for embedded devices.
granted
The FSO dbus api let's you fetch the information regarding phonebooks
and it'll tell you how many slots the sim card has for that phonebook.
No need to manually set a limit.
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that's all quite true. however, allow me to make just one point.
this phone is marketed as a developer's phone, and all the websites
related to this phone all have (or should have) discussion largely
surrounding this.
:)
On 06/22/09 21:51, Joerg Lippmann wrote:
[...]
let me cite another
except for ophonekitd being crashy currently, nearly everything else
works decently for me. it's stable enough for me to be developing my
SMS app for it. honestly, i only do these fixes for issues about once
every two to three weeks. there are bugs that others encounter that
i've never seen
Here they are, please note if this email gets munged, the mdbus line
ending in the .txt is one one line:
r...@nibbly-bits:~# cat backup_contacts.sh
#!/bin/sh
d=$(date +%Y.%m.%d-%H%M)
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrievePhonebook
to whomever does this, please put a small stylus into a recess in the
new case :)
On 06/18/09 20:18, Werner Almesberger wrote:
[ Let's give threads that change direction a clearer name than just
Freerunner's Future ]
Fabian Sch?lzel wrote:
I'm not an engineer, but a draftsman, so I
i beg to differ. i -reliably- use it for text messaging and brief phone
calls on a daily basis.
but i'm also someone that can fix most upgrade hassles on my own and if
something isn't working right, i now know what to do to fix it.
once in a great while Xglamo crashes, once in a while
-typical dependency is python-netclient which is in
(at least) the SHR unstable repository.
-david
jeremy jozwik wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 1:38 PM, David Ford da...@blue-labs.org
mailto:da...@blue-labs.org wrote:
excepting these, even though it is a developer phone, it works
reliably
that's with screen on. i can easily get a couple days out of my fone if
it's entirely idle. your nokia suspends/sleeps, it's just not a user
visible thing.
-david
Brolin Empey wrote:
Do you mean 6-8 hours with the screen on or off? If off, that is very
poor compared to my Nokia 6103b: I
Mikhail Umorin wrote:
I tried both t-mobile and att pre-paid phones. t-mobile sold me just a SIM
card ($20 in store, $7 online), att sold me with a phone ($20 cheapest, with
3G card). Both worked fine. To keep an old cell number one has to sign up for
a contract.
i'm fairly sure that
raster?
what are the settings i can put in a dotfile to adjust elementary app
fonts and styles?
when i export my display to my desktop, shr/elementary applications have
horribly huge or utterly tiny fonts and the window itself is not
resizable. further, buttons are extraordinarily huge.
thank
The udev operation is simple. The net interface naming is normally
based on the MAC address and is stored in /etc/udev/rules.d/{something}
like 70-persistent-net.rules IF your distribution runs the persistence
script. Otherwise device naming is based on the order in which devices
are found
related tangent; what microchip is used in the FR battery for those of
us that want to build our own battery pack?
On 05/20/09 07:35, joa...@verona.se wrote:
I'm trying to solder together a dumb battery with higher capacity for
the FreeRunner. It doesnt work too well, since the power
The backup script(s) I posted are:
r...@nibbly-bits:~# cat backup_messages.sh
#!/bin/sh
d=$(date +%Y.%m.%d-%H%M)
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrieveMessagebook 'all' messages-$d.txt
r...@nibbly-bits:~# cat backup_contacts.sh
this is what i use to dump the messages from my sim card to a text
file. then i delete the messages on the sim card so i have room for new
messages.
a limit of 30 messages is entirely impractical. that gets filled up
before noon arrives unless i constantly delete messages.
the upgrade changed eth0 from wireless to wired. just go edit your
/etc/network/interfaces, delete the extraneous things like wlan0 if
you're not using it, and make eth0 your wireless again. being that the
wifi mgt tools don't work for me, all my network config is managed via
this file.
-d
I am not seeing your emails duplicated.
-david
Christopher Heiny wrote:
On Thursday 12 July 2007, ground control picked up the following
transmission from Karsten Ensinger:
It also seems as if only GMail customers complain about a disruption
of operation.
Also disrupted for
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
Marco Barreno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Can someone with admin access to the list machine send me the SMTP
logs for one of the duplicated messages? I'm working in the Gmail
group at Google for the summer and I can have someone try to diagnose
the problem
Ulrik Rasmusen wrote:
Hello,
Just after I started receiving mails from the mailing list again, something
weird happened. It seems like some messages are sent out 3-4 times over a
period of up to 12-14 hours. They have the same timestamp and the same
content, so they are completely
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
yes, I can confirm this. This is from our exim4 installation on the
list server:
2007-07-07 09:17:19 1I74UH-0005cE-SD = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
H=py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176] P=esmtp S=3940 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The log that I posted showed the initial retransmit happening within
google's gmail servers.
The log you showed is exactly want I'd expect if gmail timed out due
to a slow 250 reply to the data phase of the SMTP (eg
How did the X-Originating-IP get set to 425.57.39.1? Was this a
openmoko.org error or was this inserted by the highly fuckible
wprt-4db600a3.pool.einsundeins.de ([77.182.0.163])?
community@lists.openmoko.org wrote:
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For the same reason I use open office instead of vi. Lynx is far from
capable.
Even with tuning, FF is a dastard piggy. I've tested things with FF.
Start it with no history, no recovered session. Load up digg.com and do
nothing. Just let it sit there. It will sit there and slowly grow and
If it's anything like mozilla/firefox now, we're gonna need a hefty
battery, hugely more cpu, and about 1G of ram onboard.
I used to love FF, now it's just a cpu/ram hog that usually gets killed
by the kernel every 36-48 hours for taking about 2G of ram.
The mozilla team needs to figure out how
Elliot Foster wrote:
David Ford wrote:
It's a great idea, never thought otherwise. My comment should be
taken to mean, don't reinvent the wheel, take the existing wheel,
sand it down like new, and refinish it so it's all bright and shiny
again.
What if we want a wheel with rubber, rather
Jon Phillips wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 14:05 +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
[...]
We don't consider MMS as something that the typical user of the Neo1973
would use anyway. We have SMS, and we have GPRS for services like ICQ,
Jabber, e-mail and the like.
If somebody in the community
Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
2007/1/31, Bryan Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think the first time it pops up while I'm doing something else
(Mickey calling. Answer/Ignore/Reject? while I'm putting something
on my calendar), and I accidentally click one of the buttons, I'm
going to be very annoyed.
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
[..]
D'oh. That surprises me a bit... after all, the Neo is a phone, so I
would think incoming phone calls should always popup [in default
profile]. What do the others think?
It shouldn't :) Do you answer all calls to your phone?
My phone is often very busy
Elliot F. wrote:
Or you could simply modify the mail server to trigger a script when a
message is delivered, rather than having to poll each directory/file.
A procmail/maildrop filter would be one way to implement it easily
(allowing you to filter for messages from specific people, to certain
Tim Newsom wrote:
Ok Steve. I grant you that the first derivative of acceleration is
velocity... How do you propose to gain any velocity information when
the acceleration measured is zero as would be the case if you are at a
constant velocity? This is why I am saying you would need some
He's not an idiot, he's just being bluntly vocal. I sense his
frustration with not having the device and his concern that others will
get to market first and stealing the 'community made' thunder and of
course in financial speak, the market share.
We all want toys and I'm sure OM is itching at
Steven Milburn wrote:
Wow, I can't believe I got that backwards, thanks for the correction.
Kind of embarrassing considering I actually work on this stuff.
However, it doesn't invalidate that you don't need any more
information than the accelerometer and a starting point in order to
track
I don't agree with his email tone either and neither will he speed up
release of the product. His email was rude and abusive, yes. But him
an idiot, no.
-david
David Schlesinger wrote:
He's not an idiot, he's just being bluntly vocal.
Sorry, David, _I'm_ bluntly vocal, that was simply
really off topic ... i'm looking for a full featured embedded system to
install in my car and truck. i.e. run linux shell+gui onboard and have
wifi + gsm network etc.
any recommendations for products, or pitfalls of some products for this?
thank you,
david
Some devices don't answer as expected :)
Scott ~ # hcitool scan
Scanning ...
08:00:28:F3:E1:82 David Ford
Scott ~ # sdptool browse 08:00:28:F3:E1:82
Browsing 08:00:28:F3:E1:82 ...
Scott ~ # sdptool records 08:00:28:F3:E1:82 | grep Name
Service Name: Audio Video Remote Control
Actually this idea is already in use. Set up your Bluetooth to
lock/unlock your desktop when you are in the vicinity of it etc.
:)
Richard Franks wrote:
So when I walk into my office in the morning my computer wakes the
monitor and logs in, opens up a browser with slashdot, etc.
So when I
I believe we already saw Sean's reply to you and he said GNU would be
credited in the documentation.
-david
p.s. the more people blabber about GNU, the more I try to remove it from
my system and support non-GNU replacements. this is called the point of
where proselytizing is no longer
Most sales droids I know wouldn't even have a clue about either GNU or
Linux :-D
-david
Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
* Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070122 21:37]:
That also wouldn't be accurate. The droid, refering to
wikipedia-stable, might instead say:
So, it's something _different_
If it was a windows based phone like my company phone (cingular [htc]
2125 and 8125), you'd be threatening to smash it with a baseball bat 17
times a day.
Also known as the best ever possible reason why ANY other operating
system is a better choice.
-david
Richard Bennett wrote:
On
Personally I don't think we need to invent a new term for existing
technology. You still call your computer a computer even though it's no
longer based on an 8088 CPU. I think far too many people spend far too
much time making new names and reinventing wheels rather than just
making the
correct to refer to such as Linux (which will always be
contested by the Olde Guard).
Corey wrote:
On Saturday 20 January 2007 15:48, David Ford wrote:
OpenMoko FIC/GNU/Linus/Alan Cox/X11/Xorg/GTK/... Linux. Oh, and who is
the principal for the plastic and silicon? How about the makers
Microsoft push email isn't push at all. If you read the
specifications, it's just another method of polling a server to
determine if and what segments of new content is ready for transfer.
Just like ETRN, POP3, and IMAP, none of it requires human intervention
and all of it can poll for new
And what are the GNU free distributions to be called? If you cut
yourself, do you get a bandaid or medically sterile adsorbent pad
attached to an affixable length of flexible material? Band-aid may be
trademarked and copyrighted, but that's still what everyone calls such
items and there
The term Push email comes from a client signing on to the server and
issuing a look for ... instruction to the server. Also known as
idling or long-delay poll.
The logic of it is to have the client only issue new look for ...
instructions when those instructions change, and until the client
(Sydney in-dial).
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ford
Sent: Sunday, 21 January 2007 10:51 AM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: exchange email?
Microsoft push email isn't push at all. If you read the
specifications, it's
No more comments to the list on this. I've already covered your below
response.
-david
Renaissance Man wrote:
That might be the case if those who oppose the use of GNU actually
had a rational case. The fact is they just don't; it's mostly just an
emotional reaction from what I can see.
I don't believe that one must always forgo open source toys to earn
money. In my opinion, customer service is by far the most important
element of making a lot of money. Make happy customers with whatever
your product is and it's viral. Your product doesn't have to be the
cure that saves us
Please take this off the list :) You and I disagree about whether they
are pushing their name more than pushing free software. You and I are
not going to agree on this, nor will others. Free software existed
before GNU, it will exist after GNU. To be honest, it was Linux that
catapulted
That's called rhetorical questions. Those are GNU's opinions which are
obviously and adamantly not shared.
-I- think it's entirely silly.
Xorg is as much not a component as GNU is.
If gnusense is GNU/Linux based on Ubuntu, then why have they stripped
Ubuntu from the name? That's entirely
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