Attila Csipa wrote:
On Tuesday 28 August 2007 16:39:54 Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
No they didn't. But TT employees keep pushing the idea at the very least.
This is their good right, but I reserve mine to call them on it ;)
Can you give some references on this (just out of curiosity) ?
it). I
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
On Friday 28 September 2007 10:42:09 Michael Shiloh wrote:
three prototype runs to test various subsystems. Our best case analysis
of the schedule indicates that GTA02 will be ready for shipment to end
users in early to mid December.
May I suggest taking pre-orders
Rod Whitby wrote:
Michael Shiloh wrote:
GTA02:
--
We are entering the last phases of finalizing the design. From this
point forward there are three key milestones in the life of a hardware
platform: Prototype runs; a pilot run; and mass production. We have made
three prototype runs
Ok, that does it. No more pictures for my presentations! From now on my
presentation tool will be vi.
There are no secret projects plans, and DEFINITELY no plans to make an
iPhone like device
That third picture is just mean to represent that the Neo line does not
end with the GTA02,
Hi,
I'll be giving a talk about OpenMoko at the SDForum's meeting this
Wednesday, October 10, in Palo Alto, California:
http://www.sdforum.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Calendar.eventDetaileventID=12934
The Software Developer Forum (SDForum) sponsors regular talks an various
areas of technology.
I may not have a chance to convert my slides to vi for this talk,
although I'll bet a program exists to convert pdf to ascii art.
Jeff Andros wrote:
someone get video? I'd love to see the vi slides ;-)
On 10/8/07, *Michael Shiloh* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
Indeed, and many participants are active on this list as well. There is
a good flow of information between the lists.
Michael
Lon Lentz wrote:
There's a Homebrew Mobile Phone Club? I am so on the wrong coast.
On 10/8/07, *Michael Shiloh* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Hello everyone,
I have some updates for you, and a question.
First the updates:
The GTA01 units that were shipped in the past two weeks have satisfied
the back orders for GTA01. There continues to be demand for GTA01 so we
are building some more.
GTA02 Wifi hardware has been working for
is great, but if it's dense it will only benefit the more
hardcore hackers. I hope to eventually become one of those more hardcore
hackers, but I feel like I need an entry point. :-)
On 10/13/07, *Michael Shiloh* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On 10/12/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We're very happy with the u-blox/Atmel ATR0635 GPS Receiver, and thus
have made the decision to use this chip.
That sounds like good news. It's not open-source but sounds like it
should be easier to interface
.
I presume from your subject that you want to use Wifi. If you want to
get started before the end of the year, can your group start with GTA01
and and use Bluetooth as a temporary solution?
3. For questions and requests of this sort I'm a good place to start.
Michael Shiloh
Francesco Pistillo
Butt... For the old GTA01, that have the old chip, and that will not be
used in the future, it is completely sufficient with a binary driver
accessible thru the same interface as the GTA02 phones (even if it needs
to be some function limitations). That's what originally stated anyway.
know.
Regards,
Michael Shiloh
Fred Janon wrote:
Hi,
I know everyone is working hard on the project, I just wonder if there
is any update on the new version originally planned for October? I
didn't see any update on the road map. Will there be an advanced kit as
well?
Thanks, keep up
Andreas Utterberg wrote:
Yes im sorry, i meant the GTA02 :-) and by release date i mean when its
available for ordering.
I realy want to have a neo, but want to wait for the 02 since i have
heard something about nov-dec? is that correct?
Hello Andreas,
You are partially correct, we are
Indeed I did, but I should take it one step further: If any of you spot
a place in the wiki which mentions October, please replace it with November
Even better, add in parenthesis (As of 24 October 2007: GTA02v3
currently being evaluated; GTA02v4 evaluation to start any day)
Michael
Jeff
Actually, you do make a good point. I should post my bi-weekly updates
to the announce list as well.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
Michael
All I'm asking for is the occasional update on the announce list
(what is that list for, anyway, if it's not for exactly this kind of
Hello Andreas, and everyone else,
Andreas writes:
Thats no problem, i can be very patient. I think what the community
want is just a date, when the device is planned to be shipped.
Many years ago, I had a running joke with a co-worker. Every time
someone said just we would role our eyes at
Hi Marco,
You could give a generic introduction to what OpenMoko is, why Open
Source is a different approach, and how Open Source can foster
innovation in any area (including mobility) in ways closed source simply
can't.
Community? Anything to add?
Michael
Marco Crociani - Tyrael wrote:
Jeff,
That's a great idea. I'll look into implementing this.
Thanks,
Michael
Jeff Andros wrote:
What about creating a state of the project email that is sent on
subscribe, kind of a welcome to openmoko, here's what's going on: a 2
minute blurb to bring people up to speed, and reference
Alessandro Iurlano wrote:
On 10/25/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Marco,
You could give a generic introduction to what OpenMoko is, why Open
Source is a different approach, and how Open Source can foster
innovation in any area (including mobility) in ways closed source simply
.
If you have other concerns or comments please send them to me, either
directly or to the list.
To save time, please refrain from re-opening previous discussions.
Sincerely,
Michael Shiloh
Developer Relations
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Mike Montour wrote:
Michael Shiloh wrote:
To save time, please refrain from re-opening previous discussions.
Re-opening implies that there has been some previous closure, vs. a
discussion that just trailed off into silence. Could you please provide
regular updates on important items
Yes. You do realize that it is a legal issue that has been holding this
up. But true, this is needed, and I'll find out what's going on.
Michael
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On 10/31/07, Mike Montour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Delivery of the promised 'gllin' GPS binary to GTA01 owners
(anything
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On 10/31/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes. You do realize that it is a legal issue that has been holding this
up. But true, this is needed, and I'll find out what's going on.
I thought the legal issue was resolved.
Sorry for the confusion. I went back
I've created a wiki page to consolidate the current status, and provide
a place for you to add questions and topics you'd like to see addressed.
I've also created a page for each previous Community Update, for reference.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates
I'd like to consolidate
John Morrison wrote:
One thing that I would like to suggest is that any time you reference a
relative date you qualify it with the date you added the comment to the
wiki.
Good point. Done.
Michael
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Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On 10/31/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The first legal issue was to allow for the distribution of the driver in
binary-only form. That was resolved.
The next issue was technical, and resulted from the switch from OABI to
EABI. That issue has a number
Hello Community,
I've just arrived in Taiwan and have figured out the quad band issue.
The chipset is capable of quad band but the board was laid out to only
support 3 bands. So, 850Mhz is not supported on the GTA01 board. Instead
we support 900/1800/1900MHz.
Anyone interested in more
band
capabilities to end users)?
On 11/5/07, *Michael Shiloh* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Community,
I've just arrived in Taiwan and have figured out the quad band issue.
The chipset is capable of quad band but the board was laid out to only
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Michael Shiloh writes:
The chipset is capable of quad band but the board was laid out to only
support 3 bands. So, 850Mhz is not supported on the GTA01 board. Instead
we support 900/1800/1900MHz.
How does the board layout affect the supported bands? Is it a jumper
Will do.
Michael
Steve wrote:
Thanks for letting us know so quickly. This definitely gives me
something to think about purchase wise. Please keep us informed as to
any future plans for alternate tri-band or quad-band hardware.
-Steve
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Unfortunately, this also affects
900MHZ
support, though.
-Tupshin
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Unfortunately, this also affects the GTA02, which is now far too close
to production to try to enable quad-band operation.
An 850/1800/1900MHz variant has been suggested but this is not yet
determined.
Michael
Randall Mason wrote
, at times in rural areas. I wonder how often the
lack of the 850 band would cause problems? I looked around some and
couldn't find any good info on where 850 is used.
Seems like this could affect a lot of people's decision to get the
GTA02.
digger
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 09:35 +0800, Michael
/1800/1900MHz variant would work for anyone in USA as it
covers T-Mobile, and both bands of ATT right?
On Nov 5, 2007 5:48 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Community,
I've just arrived in Taiwan and have figured out the quad band issue.
The chipset is capable of quad band
I hear you.
Now that the 850MHz update is posted, I'll turn my attention to the 3G
issue (GSM firmware update) and the GPS driver.
I've only just starting to look into these (since I arrived in Taiwan)
and I'll report in a new thread once I get a bit more information.
Michael
ian douglas
Mikko Rauhala wrote:
Those who cry direct to
FIC, and not on lists, about returning phones should IMAO be
accommodated; they bought a quad-band device, even if it was a
development one. However, in the interest of expediency, it'd be nice if
those devices could find new homes directly instead.
Hi,
I'm still pressing on the GSM firwmare update. TI is supposed to have an
answer for us, and we've been calling them daily. They are incredibly
difficult to catch.
(Same problem with Global Locate regarding the GPS driver)
Michael
ian douglas wrote:
Al Johnson wrote:
We should find
I was a little imprecise here. The circuit design, and thus board
layout, is what limits the handset to 3 bands. The components selected
(along with firmware and certification) select the 900/1800/1900MHz bands.
Michael
Randall Mason wrote:
Michael said above that it was a question of a
I'd like to explore adding a head mounted display to the Neo, like the
i-glasses PC/SVGA Head Mounted Display at about $700. Would require an
off-board SVGA controller, which could be prototyped with a USB SVGA
controller, assuming Linux drivers can be found.
Thoughts?
Hello,
I'll look into this.
Michael
Marc Bantle wrote:
Hi there,
looks like somebody restored a 2 moth old backup on lists.openmoko.org:
All my recent subscriptions are gone and emails from
community@lists.openmoko.org come in on an email address I removed 2
month ago.
Could
Good idea. This was mentioned before and I haven't done it yet.
I'll copy the next update to the announce list.
Michael
justin daly wrote:
i think it is, but i don't think everyone's hooked up to an rss iv. at
least during the holidays :)
any chance for an update on the announce list?
Hi List,
Last update was supposed to be just over 2 weeks ago, so I am a little
late. I'm working on it now.
Cailan: I plan to send an update at least every two weeks, more often if
there is anything to report in between.
Visit
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates
for
Hi Community,
Some updates:
GSM Firmware fix for 3G ATT users:
Background: Until we figure out a way to let customers update their GSM
firmware, I was offering to do it.
Status: Unfortunately, I've not been able to connect reliably with the
GSM hardware debug serial port. I'm working on
:
Wiadomość napisana w dniu Nov 26, 2007, o godz 8:41 PM, przez Michael
Shiloh:
Hi Community,
Hi Michael!
What about neccessity to make fifth revision of GTA02? Do you confirm
that ver. 4 of hardware is buggy?
Thanks!
Krzysztof
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The gating factor is still the Wifi driver. We don't expect a5 to add
much of a delay.
Michael
Felix Andersen wrote:
So the public launch of GTA02 might be delayed further?
mån 2007-11-26 klockan 13:56 -0800 skrev Michael Shiloh:
Hi Krzysztof,
I did get a description but I didn't understand
Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano wrote:
Michael Shiloh ha scritto:
The gating factor is still the Wifi driver. We don't expect a5 to add
much of a delay.
Michael
Felix Andersen wrote:
[snip]
So what about to have a phisical switch for the 850Mhz issue in rev05 if
it's not so complicated
move
the wifi driver along? Or is the hold up somewhere inside Atheros or
the madwifi team?
Thanks!
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano wrote:
Michael Shiloh ha scritto:
The gating factor is still the Wifi driver. We don't expect a5 to
add much of a delay.
Michael
Felix Andersen
Oh yes.
Someone, please do this. I'll support in any way I can.
Michael
Robin Paulson wrote:
ok, it's pointless, stupid and probably a waste of resources, but this
has to be developed by somebody:
http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/28/1342248
it's a phone app that reports the
Patrick Davila wrote:
Michael was gracious enough to come on our show and talk about the great
work you guys are doing:
http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.ogg
http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.mp3
Enjoy
On the contrary, Patrick was gracious enough to have me on the
Patrick Davila wrote:
I haven't listened very far, so maybe it'll be said, but at what
offset is the interview?
The interview starts 00:02:18 into the show. It sounds like we end the
interview after an hour but Michael sticks around for quite a bit longer
to talk about some other topics. He
Ben Burdette wrote:
Patrick Davila wrote:
Michael was gracious enough to come on our show and talk about the great
work you guys are doing:
http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.ogg
http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.mp3
Enjoy
I was relieved to hear that 850 mhz seems
Hello,
Thanks to a tremendous amount of hard work by many people, we have ready
a release of gllin, the GPS drives. Here is how you can get it:
1. Visit http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/
Enter the gllin directory and accept the EULA
2. Download and install
Heikki Sørum wrote:
When were talking about different ways to use accelerometers..
Bob meet's Alice and they both want each others contact
information. First Bob and Alice shake their phones in an predetermined
password pattern to unlock the
bluetooth/zigbe/(whatever-short-range-radio).
Then
WJCarpenter wrote:
Eg hold two devices next to each other and shake them up and down
Hmm, I think I can see what's coming, based on watching many wacky comedies
over the years. Things will get switched. Alice
will end up with the Neo full of cash while Bob wanders away with the Neo
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On Dec 3, 2007 10:51 AM, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An interesting (though probably not as useful and secure) variation could be
to stack the phones on top of each other and have one phone send a vibration
pattern to the other. One could even exchange data
Jay Vaughan wrote:
An interesting (though probably not as useful and secure) variation
could be to stack the phones on top of each other and have one phone
send a vibration pattern to the other. One could even exchange data
that way at very very low speeds... B)
This is really a great
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think so... neo's dns is 192.168.200.200
Is it wrong?
Are you sure you have your dns address in correctly? Whats in
/etc/resolv.conf?
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Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Ian Darwin writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm able to ping the phone and my laptop, too.
But I can't connect to the internet: ...
We had two different responses:
1) Mickey concluded it must be resolv.conf;
2) Dr. Schaller concluded the notebook doesn't have
IP
right now.
(*) We try to tell you as much as possible, and we all wish it could be
more. We're still learning how to do this.
Michael Shiloh
OpenMoko
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Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
Wifi driver:
We're making very good progress, but it's still not finished.
GTA02 hardware:
Still waiting for the Wifi driver to verify the Wifi hardware, but so
far we're feeling quite good about this part. There are a couple of
other things to verify, and as
As has been discussed earlier, this is not a change you can make yourself.
Conceivably, you could change the components yourself, if you had the
right equipment, but there are also changes to the firmware that you can
not make yourself.
There is no possibility of adding a switch, as a number
As mentioned earlier, this requires replacing a number of components,
firmware changes, and recalibration.
Michael
Mark wrote:
In regards to the 850MHz Issue:
It seems that very little effort was required to switch a phone board
to 850 for testing. So my question is what exactly is involved.
Yes, but not the recalibration or the firmware changes.
One step at a time - let's see if these units work, and if so, we'll
look into if there is any way to tackle the other issues.
Michael
Cliff Brake wrote:
I would also be very interested in re-work instructions for modifying
a GTA01 to
Jason Joines wrote:
Is there any possibility of a future hardware version becoming quad
band?
As mentioned earlier, there is no chance that GTA02 will be quad-band.
There is certainly a possibility that future products will be quad-band.
Michael
of the GTA02, or are they going to be
available way after that?
On Dec 9, 2007 6:01 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
GSM Firmware update:
We've been informed that everything legal has been agreed upon by all
parties, and all that remains is to get
Hello,
Thanks everyone for your enthusiastic response.
As might be imagined, a large number of you offered your services as
testers for the 850MHz modified GTA01 phones.
I have sufficient testers now, so no more emails please. Although I am
sure there will be more who would like to
Hello,
GTA01 850MHz Experiment
---
As mentioned in the last update, we modified a couple of GTA01 handsets
for 850MHz operation to test them in the USA. Due to the enthusiastic
response I received to my request for testing volunteers I've asked our
hardware group to modify
Erland Lewin wrote:
Thanks for the updates, Michael.
Any update on how the GTA02v5 evaluation is proceeding?
/Erland
Hi Erland,
As mentioned on 12/06/2007 We are waiting for confirmation of Wifi and
a few other parts of the GTA02a4 hardware before we manufacture even a
small test run
Lorn Potter wrote:
P.s. I'm not taking any time off, so if anyone wants their GSM
firwmware upgraded I'm just as available next week as any time.
What exactly is the procedure? Do you need the phone to be sent to you?
Sadly, yes. Until the agreement with TI is signed, only OpenMoko
, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Lorn Potter wrote:
P.s. I'm not taking any time off, so if anyone wants their GSM
firwmware upgraded I'm just as available next week as any time.
What exactly is the procedure? Do you need the phone
As most of you will surely guess, that email about magazine
subscriptions was spam.
We take your privacy very seriously and will take the necessary steps to
prevent this poster from using our list again.
Again, our apologies.
Michael Shiloh
Thanks Harish,
I'll forward your suggestion to our IT person.
Regards,
Michael
Harish Pillay wrote:
May I make a suggestion to whoever is running this mailing list to add
the greylist technique to it as well? I have had milter-greylist running on
my main email servers for over 12 months now,
Hi Mike,
Mike wrote:
On Mon December 24 2007, Michael Shiloh wrote:
Hi Mike,
Year's end is not very likely. I'll correct that. Can you tell me where
you saw that?
It's on the commercial site:
http://www.openmoko.com/products-neo-base-00-stdkit.html
Why so it is. I think I wrote
Esben Stien wrote:
Been looking on the wiki, but I cannot find neither the circuit
diagram, block diagram, component list nor the pcb layout
schematics.
Any pointers as to where I can look?.
Hi Esben,
I think this is the best place to start:
Esben Stien wrote:
I want to make a steel Neo case, but I need the schematics. Any
reasons these are being held back?.
Hi Esben,
Yes, I'm afraid we are not able to open source the schematics. I think
Harald or Werner explained this in a post somewhere - I'll see if I can
find it.
The
://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:Neo1973:Alternate_Cases). I
myself would be happy with something as simple as a Wavefront object
file, since almost any CAD tool can import these.
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Gabriel Ambuehl writes:
On Wednesday 26 December 2007 21:11:18 Michael Shiloh wrote
Hello everyone,
Next week at CES we will formally preview GTA02 to the public. We are
doing this at an invitation-only media event, and not the general show
floor.
To coincide with this we are sending out a press release tomorrow morning.
The bulk of the press release discusses the hardware
As we all know, during a call with GTA01 noise is heard in the speaker.
I know this has been discussed in the past and I thought someone had
found a soft way to solve this. One of the settings in the mixer was too
high or something like that.
I've been searching for this item but all I can
Thanks everyone for your thoughts on this. From your descriptions I
agree, this seems to be a hardware issue.
Furthermore, this seems to be Bugzilla Bug 883, which is assigned to
Tony, our hardware guy. I'll follow up on this with him. Obviously we
want to make sure this isn't present on
I am trying to find out why the spam poster is still on our list and to
get it removed right away. Our IT guy is usually right on top of things
so something must have happened.
Michael
Sébastien Lorquet wrote:
I wonder why no one is taking care of blacklisting this single account :(
All this
/01/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everyone,
Next week at CES we will formally preview GTA02 to the public. We are
doing this at an invitation-only media event, and not the general show
floor.
To coincide with this we are sending out a press release tomorrow morning.
The bulk
Hi Ian,
ian douglas wrote:
Although it would be nice to take advantage of this faster processor, 3
problems make this impractical
Michael,
If I'm reading your message correctly, the GTA02 will indeed have a
500MHz processor, but will not be running at 500MHz because of the three
Hi Brandon,
(I encourage everyone to use meaningful subject lines)
I suspect the real reason was that it was the easiest and quickest thing
to do at the time, and allowed the developers to focus on more pressing
issues, like getting the rest of the system working.
I'm sure this will change
look forward to seeing what you build.
Having said that, I need to write a paper for an upcoming conference
during which I'll be making just that point.
All the best,
Joseph
Best wishes,
Michael
On 10/01/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Joseph,
If we knew the date
Hi Jay,
Thanks for your enthusiasm.
Jay Vaughan wrote:
We're still testing the hardware and gathering up little issues before
determining whether we need to create another version of the board. We
still expect to start shipping Neo FreeRunner sometime in the next few
months. As always,
://youtube.com/watch?v=SZsps3bj6yE
I've added a link to these at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Current_events. If anyone finds more,
please add them here.
Michael
Lon Lentz wrote:
Michael,
Are you aware of any online sites that might have done any video of this?
On Jan 10, 2008 4:20 PM, Michael
Hi Brad,
I'm pretty sure that the only new things we mentioned were new
hardware features: WiFi, faster processor, 2D/3D accelerator chip, and
the accelerometers.
Fixed GSM firmware is not new because that's already included in GTA01
units (those that shipped after we got the fixed
Nicolas Linkert wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:41:09 +0100, Nils Faerber
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
snip
So buttomline is I would not see it *that* black. Let's hope for the new
modem firmware since the modem is currently the biggest standby current
eater.
I was under the impression that the
Zeth Green wrote:
Warning: Totally frivolous post.
The picture on the news.com site, has the word FreeRunner written at
the bottom and a rather cool all black look (i.e. no transparent edge).
Is this photo a fake or is it a real photo of the new case?
http://linkpot.net/stenched/
That
Hi Community,
Can't remember if I told you this or not, but OpenMoko has decided to
make available the CAD files detailing the NEO case.
I'm pretty sure the format will be .dxf files. To my limited
understanding of CAD, this seems pretty universal and easy to convert to
the other formats.
Tim Niemeyer wrote:
On another Thread was this:
---
And please do get my message right - it is my *hope* that the new firmware will
also improve PM since PM issues of the GSM are know to be caused by the
firmware. There is no confirmation of this potential fix.
Can anybody from Openmoko
yes, dxf is spot on
Thanks for the confirmation.
great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases
designed and built
I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an
obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in
this
Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote:
Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available.
I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't
take too much longer to get the files. DXF files should also be fine.
I know of several free editors that can import
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On Jan 14, 2008 11:14 AM, Jeremiah Flerchinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available.
I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't
take too much longer to get the files. DXF files should
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On Jan 14, 2008 12:52 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an
obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in
this situation.
A concrete phone? You can't make it anywhere
Daniel Barkalow wrote:
Anyone have access to useful manufacturing tools? I have friends with CNC
mills and lathes, and one with a water jet cutter. I have indirect access to
3D printers. Anything else interesting out there?
http://www.candyfab.org/
Other phones make their owners angry.
Hi,
Sorry for the short notice.
The monthly meeting of the Silicon Valley Homebrew Mobile Phone Club
(SVHMPC) is tonight, and the topic is open source Linux frameworks
for mobile devices.
Google will discuss Android, and I'll discuss OpenMoko.
The meeting is free and is held at The Tech
By the way, the wiki mentioned below is at
http://hbmobile.org/wiki/index.php?title=HOWTO_Pages
The website is a useful resource in general, and OpenMoko is mentioned
there too.
Michael
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Hi,
Sorry for the short notice.
The monthly meeting of the Silicon Valley
Good question, Jeffrey, and you suggest a question that I'd like to ask
you, the community:
Why do you chose to develop on OpenMoko, rather than on Android? Or do
you do both?
(Beside the lack of Android hardware)
Michael
Jeffrey Thomas wrote:
I am unable to attend this meeting due to
Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry!
All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest
from
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/
Good luck and let us know how it goes,
Michael
Barry Steele wrote:
Hi,
I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm
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