19x19 server:
I have changed 10 minutes to 30 minutes per side.
I have modified the anchors (but the --positional-superko option
is seemingly not recognized; I'll correct that later).
Olivier
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The anchors are:
/usr/games/gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead
--chinese-rules --level 0
/usr/games/gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead
--chinese-rules --level 10
The numbers (1200 and 1800) are arbitrary; all suggestions welcome,
as for the command-line
How about leaving gnugo 10 at 1800 and let gungo level 0 float for a while.
See what rating gnugo level 0 gets, then lock it there as an anchor.
If these two programs aren't 600 points apart and you anchor them that way
it will prevent the rating system from stabilizing.
David
-Original
Some critics of an XML-based go format seem to be involved in a paranoid
fantasy that they are going to be forced by evil goblins to use it against
their will. No, Jennifer, that's not the case. Sure, if the format becomes
popular they may end up having to deal with it, but XML-formatted game
Bob
I'm sorry if you read my message as saying that I'm not in favour of
an XML file format for go. I'm actually very much in favour of such a
thing, which is why I spent two hours getting to understand the
current contender and pointing out some of the issues that need to be
fixed.
cheers
Bob Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Many of those complaining about XML don't seem to really know too
much about it.
The problem with XML is, that most people using it don't know anything
about it and possible alternatives, using XML for everything, even
when there are better alternatives
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bob Myers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Some critics of an XML-based go format seem to be involved in a paranoid
fantasy that they are going to be forced by evil goblins to use it against
their will.
No, that is not the problem. The problem is that if there are two
Many of those complaining about XML don't seem to really know too much
about
it.
Dude. It's a file format.
File formats don't solve problems. Data structures solve problems.
XML is not a data structure, it is a very loosely specified way to arrange tags.
By becoming so multipurpose it has
Don Dailey wrote:
Who is running gnugo 10?You must using the right options. Here is
how I run it:
gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules
--positional-superko
You can skip --score aftermath, it has no effect when --mode gtp is
used. (Without --mode gtp it
Bob Myers wrote:
Many of those complaining about XML don't seem to really know too much about it.
That is exactly my point. I don't know and I don't want to know!
SGF is fine. It has been stable for years because there is no problem at all.
Should we find a problem, there is a
On 23/10/2007, Gunnar Farnebäck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A potential problem with an XML library is the internal representation
of the game tree. For debugging purposes it's not unusual to dump
reading trees containing literally millions of moves, sometimes up to
the limit of the available
At 10 minute time limits Many Faces rated over 2000 and was top of the list.
At 30 minutes it's 1650. Many Faces 11 was tuned for the machines in the
1990s, and clearly it needs work for modern machines.
David
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ver 11 does 1 ply search with quiescence so there is no way to crank it up.
Ver 12 uses full board alpha beta, but it's too buggy right now to put on
cgos. if this server stays up for a while, I'll use it for testing of ver
12.
David
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On Oct 27, 2007, at 9:53 AM, David Fotland wrote:
At 10 minute time limits Many Faces rated over 2000 and was top of
the list.
At 30 minutes it's 1650. Many Faces 11 was tuned for the machines
in the
1990s, and clearly it needs work for modern machines.
I don't understand that. The anchor
Hi,
I have just connected Crazy Stone (CS-8-26-10k-1CPU). It uses 10,000
playouts per move, and runs on 1 CPU. It should finish all its games in
less than 5 minutes. In my tests, it scores 41% against GNU Go 3.6 Level
10, and 73.5% against MoGo_release3 at 10k playouts per move (the
playouts
NO, it's because gnugo got stronger with longer time limits. When the time
limit got longer Many Faces started taking 1 minute instead of 5 minutes, so
there may be a bug in Many Faces GTP interface time control.
DAvid
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On Oct 27, 2007, at 3:17 PM, David Fotland wrote:
NO, it's because gnugo got stronger with longer time limits.
Did it? I thought the anchor (gnugo-level-10) plays just that, at
level10. How would it get stronger?
When the time
limit got longer Many Faces started taking 1 minute instead of 5
Because gnugo has time control and when time is short it adjusts the level
down between moves. I think with th 30 minute control it is staying at
level 10 the whole game.
I just found a time control bug in Many Faces, and it's been playing at
level 3. It should get stronger soon :)
Now I remember - the min-level and max-level settings should be set on
the anchor player
to make it play exactly the same strength, whether the machine is loaded
or not, especially
if the anchor is run on more than one machine.
- Don
David Fotland wrote:
Because gnugo has time control and
On Oct 27, 2007, at 3:59 PM, David Fotland wrote:
Because gnugo has time control and when time is short it adjusts
the level
down between moves. I think with th 30 minute control it is
staying at
level 10 the whole game.
But even now it is only using 3 minutes ... it was not short of
You're right. the problem was Many Faces was playing at level 3 instead of
10. I fixed it and now Many Faces is taking 5 minutes per game rather than
1 minute. It's rating should come back up now.
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Anyone recommend a free SGF viewer for Linux? I'd really like to find
something like SCID but for Go.
-Josh
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Since you mention SCID, I assume you are looking for something with
databasing features as well, instead of just a plain SGF editor. If all you
want is just plain SGF editing, glGo, qGo, CGoban3 are all great on Linux.
As for databasing apps, you can check out the
2007/10/28, Joshua Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anyone recommend a free SGF viewer for Linux? I'd really like to find
something like SCID but for Go.
I use qGo and Kombilo.
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