Re: [cr-india] Cellphone-based community radio
Hi Gora, I'll be pleased to see the PhoneGap application done and test with our steams. For your understanding PhoneGap it will able also to decode aac+ streams? At the AurovilleRadio actually we have quite a lot of speeches but some music too in the schedule. Regarding the live radio chat you can do it when you have real time broadcast. In Internet broadcast it's very difficult because the long latency factor. Regarding the connections I'm sure we'll see in the next years we'll see in the G3 technology spread all over India at competitive prices. At that time the quality of the sound will improve a lot. Just matter of band-with and streamer's setting. Cheers. Andrea -- On 05/03/10 09:40, Gora Mohanty wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:44:20 +0530 Andrea Tazzari wrote: Hi Gora, Thanks for your observation. I have circulate your message in our developer's team. I have been talking to a friend of mine who runs an Internet radio music station about building a mobile application for the site. With PhoneGap, such an application can be used across a large number of handsets. Music will obviously require a connection with larger bandwidth than GPRS, but the front-end application can be the same, and moreover, the interface can easily be restyled with CSS. Would be glad to take a shot at building such an application. Due to commitments at work, it would be difficult for me to commit right now to a fixed time line. Nevertheless, let me know if this sounds interesting. [...] I have a connection @ 199 Rs/monts (unlimited traffic) with BSNL. Soon I'll increase the band-with in order to test with a better sound quality. [...] Auroville Radio is doing just speech, right? I really do not think that music will work on a GPRS connection, but do you have any plans of trying? Another thought: If streaming speech over GPRS is working well, it ought to be possible to send similar audio back to the radio station. Thus, one could have a live radio chat, or something like citizen journalism. Regards, Gora Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to www.crforum.in Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to www.crforum.in
Re: [cr-india] Cellphone-based community radio
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:14:22 +0530 sajan venniyoor wrote: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Gora Mohanty > wrote: > > > Auroville Radio is doing just speech, right? I really do not > > think > > that music will work on a GPRS connection, but do you have any > plans > > of trying? > > > Auroville Radio streams a fair amount of music, I believe. At > least, I have listened to some excellent classical music on one > of their two channels (though not on my mobile). [...] Oh, good. I should note that I have no actual experience of trying streaming music over low-bandwidth networks. I was just going by the bandwidth requirements cited by friends doing Internet music radio. It is possible that they were serving higher-quality streams. > Another thought: If streaming speech over GPRS is working well, it > > ought to be possible to send similar audio back to the radio > > station. Thus, one could have a live radio chat, or something > > like citizen journalism. > > > Well, there *is* something called voice telephony, and it's been > around for a while... Radio stations routinely do live chats > (phone-ins, phone-outs) and I don't think data streaming is > really needed for basic stuff like that. The great advantages of > streaming radio over GPRS is that (1) it gets around the > Kafka-in-Pandemonium world of radio regulation in India and (2) > the signal goes a hell of a long way compared to FM radio. > > I am not sure, though, if there are any inherent advantages in > using skype-over-mobile or similar applications in favour of > normal voice calls for routine phone-ins or field reports. Yes, telephony is what I was thinking about. The advantage here would be cost, as GPRS data should be cheaper than normal voice data. Your first point about streaming radio over GPRS is well taken, and that was also my first thought in the context of community radio. Regards, Gora Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to www.crforum.in
Re: [cr-india] Cellphone-based community radio
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Gora Mohanty wrote: > Auroville Radio is doing just speech, right? I really do not think that music will work on a GPRS connection, but do you have any plans of trying? Auroville Radio streams a fair amount of music, I believe. At least, I have listened to some excellent classical music on one of their two channels (though not on my mobile). I have also listened to music channels on GPRS via mobile apps like Mundu Radio, and the experience hasn't been too bad. Maybe I have a tin ear. Another thought: If streaming speech over GPRS is working well, it > ought to be possible to send similar audio back to the radio > station. Thus, one could have a live radio chat, or something like > citizen journalism. Well, there *is* something called voice telephony, and it's been around for a while... Radio stations routinely do live chats (phone-ins, phone-outs) and I don't think data streaming is really needed for basic stuff like that. The great advantages of streaming radio over GPRS is that (1) it gets around the Kafka-in-Pandemonium world of radio regulation in India and (2) the signal goes a hell of a long way compared to FM radio. I am not sure, though, if there are any inherent advantages in using skype-over-mobile or similar applications in favour of normal voice calls for routine phone-ins or field reports. Sajan Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to www.crforum.in
Re: [cr-india] Cellphone-based community radio
The best phone to use is a Nokia 2323 classic which is also one of the cheapest phones in the indian market at about $65. Rajen Varada Skype: rajen_tftp cell: 09711201477 --- On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Kara Andrade wrote: > Is anyone out there doing community radio using cellphones. What are the > different models being used? > > Thank you! > > Kara Andrade > www.hablaguate.com > > > On 3/2/10 11:56 PM, "cr-india-requ...@sarai.net" > wrote: > > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:09:55 -0700 (MST) > From: "George Lessard" > > > Subject: [cr-india] An Assessment of the Role of Community > > Radio in > Peacebuilding and Development > To: > > undisclosed-recipients:; > Message-ID: > > <46744.216.108.22.182.1267474195.squir...@flymail.web.net> > Content-Type: > > text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > An Assessment of the Role of Community Radio in > > Peacebuilding and > Development: Case Studies in Liberia & Sierra > > Leone > http://ow.ly/1cUSJ > > > > > Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to > www.crforum.in -- Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to www.crforum.in
Re: [cr-india] Cellphone-based community radio
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:44:20 +0530 Andrea Tazzari wrote: > Hi Gora, > Thanks for your observation. > I have circulate your message in our developer's team. I have been talking to a friend of mine who runs an Internet radio music station about building a mobile application for the site. With PhoneGap, such an application can be used across a large number of handsets. Music will obviously require a connection with larger bandwidth than GPRS, but the front-end application can be the same, and moreover, the interface can easily be restyled with CSS. Would be glad to take a shot at building such an application. Due to commitments at work, it would be difficult for me to commit right now to a fixed time line. Nevertheless, let me know if this sounds interesting. [...] > I have a connection @ 199 Rs/monts (unlimited traffic) with BSNL. > Soon I'll increase the band-with in order to test with a better > sound quality. [...] Auroville Radio is doing just speech, right? I really do not think that music will work on a GPRS connection, but do you have any plans of trying? Another thought: If streaming speech over GPRS is working well, it ought to be possible to send similar audio back to the radio station. Thus, one could have a live radio chat, or something like citizen journalism. Regards, Gora Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to www.crforum.in
Re: [cr-india] Cellphone-based community radio
Cool! Actually, just a clarification from my end. When I mentioned about our work with Asterisk, I was talking about the server side, of how the radio station could receive phone calls, archive the calls, put the caller on air, etc. Andrea and Gora are talking about the client side, of how radio content can be streamed over the Internet and then received on a cellphone. Just wanted to clear that to avoid confusion! On a related note, GRINS currently does not support Internet streaming, but this feature is very much in the pipeline. Andrea Tazzari wrote: > Hi Gora, > Thanks for your observation. > I have circulate your message in our developer's team. > Actually the sound quality it's more close to a AM broadcast than a FM > this because we are streaming in mono and in very low bandwith > (1Kbs/sec circa) in order to keep up the connection. > With this speed the connection it's very stable and I have very few > interruptions even when I'm travel with a bike or in car. > I've tested all around Auroville, Pondicherry and Chennai and I'm very > happy with the results. > I have a connection @ 199 Rs/monts (unlimited traffic) with BSNL. > Soon I'll increase the band-with in order to test with a better sound > quality. > Regards. > > Andrea Tazzari > -- > > > On 04/03/10 11:27, Gora Mohanty wrote: >> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:34:56 +0530 >> Andrea Tazzari wrote: >> >> >>> Hi, >>> The AurovilleRadio is testing since December 2009 broadcasting >>> trough cellphones connect with GPRS connections. >>> >> This sounds like a great idea. Are people using it? What is the >> sound quality, and the reliability of the streaming? >> >> >>> It's working fine but you need a cellphone supporting Flash >>> technology and for time being are expensive. >>> >> [...] >> >> Why is the interface in Flash? I have just started dabbling with >> mobile applications, but I thought that most mobile browsers >> support HTML5/CSS3, and there are open-source projects like >> PhoneGap (http://phonegap.com) that aim at cross-handset >> compatibility using just HTML and CSS. >> >> Regards, >> Gora >> Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to >> www.crforum.in > > > Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to > www.crforum.in Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to www.crforum.in
Re: [cr-india] Cellphone-based community radio
Hi Gora, Thanks for your observation. I have circulate your message in our developer's team. Actually the sound quality it's more close to a AM broadcast than a FM this because we are streaming in mono and in very low bandwith (1Kbs/sec circa) in order to keep up the connection. With this speed the connection it's very stable and I have very few interruptions even when I'm travel with a bike or in car. I've tested all around Auroville, Pondicherry and Chennai and I'm very happy with the results. I have a connection @ 199 Rs/monts (unlimited traffic) with BSNL. Soon I'll increase the band-with in order to test with a better sound quality. Regards. Andrea Tazzari -- On 04/03/10 11:27, Gora Mohanty wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:34:56 +0530 Andrea Tazzari wrote: Hi, The AurovilleRadio is testing since December 2009 broadcasting trough cellphones connect with GPRS connections. This sounds like a great idea. Are people using it? What is the sound quality, and the reliability of the streaming? It's working fine but you need a cellphone supporting Flash technology and for time being are expensive. [...] Why is the interface in Flash? I have just started dabbling with mobile applications, but I thought that most mobile browsers support HTML5/CSS3, and there are open-source projects like PhoneGap (http://phonegap.com) that aim at cross-handset compatibility using just HTML and CSS. Regards, Gora Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to www.crforum.in Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to www.crforum.in
Re: [cr-india] Cellphone-based community radio
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:34:56 +0530 Andrea Tazzari wrote: > Hi, > The AurovilleRadio is testing since December 2009 broadcasting > trough cellphones connect with GPRS connections. This sounds like a great idea. Are people using it? What is the sound quality, and the reliability of the streaming? > It's working fine but you need a cellphone supporting Flash > technology and for time being are expensive. [...] Why is the interface in Flash? I have just started dabbling with mobile applications, but I thought that most mobile browsers support HTML5/CSS3, and there are open-source projects like PhoneGap (http://phonegap.com) that aim at cross-handset compatibility using just HTML and CSS. Regards, Gora Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to www.crforum.in
Re: [cr-india] Cellphone-based community radio
Hi, The AurovilleRadio is testing since December 2009 broadcasting trough cellphones connect with GPRS connections. It's working fine but you need a cellphone supporting Flash technology and for time being are expensive. If you have a Flash enabled phone connected with Internet you can log into http://www.aurovilleradio.org/mobile and listen the AurovilleRadio from all over India. Regards, Andrea Tazzari -- On 04/03/10 09:27, Aaditeshwar Seth wrote: Hello, We have been able to get Bluetooth enabled cellphones working with Asterisk to make and receive phone calls, but the audio quality is not too good. A better option is to use GSM PCI cards or GSM gateways: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/GSM . We haven't tested any of these solutions so far, but we don't expect any significant glitches since they are already being used by many people. Sending and receiving SMS messages can be done through Frontline SMS: http://www.frontlinesms.com/ . It works with a variety of phone models and GSM modems. GRINS, our radio broadcast system at Gram Vaani, currently supports telephony over PSTN landlines and SIP VoIP. We will have SMS and cellular based telephony very soon: http://gramvaani.org/technology/community-radio/ cheers Aadi Kara Andrade wrote: Is anyone out there doing community radio using cellphones. What are the different models being used? Thank you! Kara Andrade www.hablaguate.com On 3/2/10 11:56 PM, "cr-india-requ...@sarai.net" wrote: Message: 2 Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:09:55 -0700 (MST) From: "George Lessard" Subject: [cr-india] An Assessment of the Role of Community Radio in Peacebuilding and Development To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-ID: <46744.216.108.22.182.1267474195.squir...@flymail.web.net> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 An Assessment of the Role of Community Radio in Peacebuilding and Development: Case Studies in Liberia& Sierra Leone http://ow.ly/1cUSJ Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to www.crforum.in Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to www.crforum.in Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to www.crforum.in
Re: [cr-india] Cellphone-based community radio
Hello, We have been able to get Bluetooth enabled cellphones working with Asterisk to make and receive phone calls, but the audio quality is not too good. A better option is to use GSM PCI cards or GSM gateways: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/GSM . We haven't tested any of these solutions so far, but we don't expect any significant glitches since they are already being used by many people. Sending and receiving SMS messages can be done through Frontline SMS: http://www.frontlinesms.com/ . It works with a variety of phone models and GSM modems. GRINS, our radio broadcast system at Gram Vaani, currently supports telephony over PSTN landlines and SIP VoIP. We will have SMS and cellular based telephony very soon: http://gramvaani.org/technology/community-radio/ cheers Aadi Kara Andrade wrote: > Is anyone out there doing community radio using cellphones. What are the > different models being used? > > Thank you! > > Kara Andrade > www.hablaguate.com > > > On 3/2/10 11:56 PM, "cr-india-requ...@sarai.net" > wrote: > > >> Message: 2 >> > Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:09:55 -0700 (MST) > From: "George Lessard" > >> >> > Subject: [cr-india] An Assessment of the Role of Community > >> Radio in >> > Peacebuilding and Development > To: > >> undisclosed-recipients:; >> > Message-ID: > >> <46744.216.108.22.182.1267474195.squir...@flymail.web.net> >> > Content-Type: > >> text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 >> > > An Assessment of the Role of Community Radio in > >> Peacebuilding and >> > Development: Case Studies in Liberia & Sierra > >> Leone >> > http://ow.ly/1cUSJ > > > > > Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to > www.crforum.in Join the Community Radio Forum. For membership details, please go to www.crforum.in
