Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread c.

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LOL

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From: Bill Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon
(Independent UK) (fwd)


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 In a message dated 7/1/01 4:25:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  What are you talking about? 

 I'm talking about the people in the third world countries who cook up hash
 and have the mixture  explode in their faces.


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Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread c.

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sorry steve but you are badly informed

hemp is marijuana is hemp. different varieties. i don't care which badly
informed info you have to underline your opinion. but it is just not so.
i have been growing for over 10 years.
what first hand experience have you?

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From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon
(Independent UK) (fwd)


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 On 1 Jul 01, at 21:59, c. wrote:

  marijuana is hemp is marijuana. just different strains give different
  emphasis- fruit or flesh.
 

 Not correct, c. Hemp and marijuana are related but different. Our
governments would
 like you to believe that they are the same however.  Read on...

 http://zimafoods.ca/diff.html

 HEMP VS. MARIJUANA
  Well now that you know how good the seed is, also how many uses there
are for the
 plant, what really is the difference between hemp
  and marijuana?
 Marijuana is a tobacco-like substance produced by drying the leaves and
flowering
 parts, or buds, of the Cannabis plant. These particular
 parts of the Cannabis plant are selected for illicit use due to the
concentration of
 tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, in those particular areas of the
 plant. THC is the chemical present in marijuana that produces the drug
user's
 psychoactive, or high, effect. Most wild
 marijuana found growing in Canada and the United States has a THC
concentration of
 less 0.5 percent, compared to
 Colombian or Mexican varieties with a THC content ranging normally between
3 to 7
 percent. An increase has been noted by
 law enforcement in recent years of large scale domestic production of
marijuana
 containing much higher THC values,
 sometimes with a THC content as high as 25 percent.
 Marijuana is normally used in its dry form by rolling the same into
cigarettes, or joints,
 and smoked. A wide variety of other
 smoking utensils, primarily in the form of pipes, are also used.
 Hemp on the other hand is a non-psychoactive cannabis variety. Originally
there was
 no marijuana per say, just fields of hemp
 grown for fibre, oils and livestock feed as well as food for humans. When
the slaves of
 the early 1800's began to realize that by
 smoking the flowering tops of the hemp plant they achieved a measure of
relief from
 the horrible lives they were living as slaves! Thus began
   the association between the evil weed marijuana and hemp.
It was also the
 Mexicans who were smoking the weed before
   battle, the song La Cucaracha being about a soldier who
refused to march
 without some marijuana to smoke. Although
   there are similarities, the differences are greater by far.

 Click here to see the ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA 1911 entry on hemp.

 Although many people think hemp and marijuana are the same it would be
best to
 describe them as cousins. Hemp is meant as an industrial
 crop. Much like flax or cotton. Hemp can be used for many things, just
check out the
 uses page and see. Hemp is a wonder plant! If you leave
 aside the 40,000 + products that can be made from hemp the mere fact that
it has
 survived the US War on drugs never ceases top amaze
 me. People though don't realize that countries unaffected by US foreign
policy didn't
 stop growing hemp at all. Countries like Poland, Russia,
 India and China to just name a few. Fortunately for us we can now go to
these peoples
 and regain the information we require to create our own
 hemp industry right here in North America.
 So why does the US have it's War on Drugs while Canada uses hemp to create
a new
 industry within it's borders? There seems to be a
 definite difference in thinking between Health Canada's way of dealing
with hemp and
 the US's DEA. Why does Health Canada allow hemp to
 be grown all across Canada while just a few kilometers south of the border
the DEA is
 actively spraying wild hemp in order to eradicate all
 hemp from within it's borders?
 That of course is not a one two three answer but simply put Health Canada
is a branch
 of the Government regulating health issues, getting it's
 budget to do just that. The DEA under which the hemp issue is big
business, $500
 million US last year alone given to the organization to
 eradicate wild hemp and that says nothing of the marijuana enforcement
dollars. So in
 short, by regulating the growth of the hemp industry in
 Canada the government is creating jobs for the farmers and for the
manufacturing
 sector. If it were legalized in the states, the paramilitary like
 DEA would lose a lot of it's funding and also it would lose face. The
Government there
 has worked long and hard, since 1937, to convince it's
 peoples that hemp is bad, why change now and lose all of the lies it's
created!

 and
 http://www.azhemp.org/Package/Legal/legal.html

 HEMP vs. MARIJUANA

 The word hemp is English for a number of varieties of the cannabis
plant, particularly
 the 

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Steve

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Hemp is not the drug marijuana. Any idiot knows that. You've been smoking too much.

Hemp does not contain significant amounts of THC. You can smoke hemp all you want
and all you'll get is a headache.

Steve

On 2 Jul 01, at 7:45, c. wrote:

 hemp is marijuana is hemp. different varieties. i don't care which badly
 informed info you have to underline your opinion. but it is just not so.
 i have been growing for over 10 years.
 what first hand experience have you?



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[CTRL] Fwd: Commentary from Sanders Research, research affilitate to London investment manager

2001-07-02 Thread Kris Millegan







A very entertaining reference tothe missing $59 
billion:
Go to:

http://www.sandersresearch.com/fullaccess/WebmagHome.htm
Click on Founders Comment
When the stock pickers pick up on 
this stuff, markets move.

This is 
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[CTRL] Californians cut power use 12 percent last month

2001-07-02 Thread Steve

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(This is for all you California bashers out there. We are the #1 energy conservation
State in the Nation, and we saved even more energy last month. Way to go, California
and Gov. Grey Davis! --SW)

Californians cut power use 12 percent last month

LESLIE GORNSTEIN, AP Business Writer Sunday, July 1, 2001 Breaking News
Sections

(07-01) 15:19 PDT LOS ANGELES (AP) --

California businesses and residents cut electricity use by 12 percent in June compared
with the same period last year, state officials said Sunday -- proof, they said, that 
the
governor's plan for coping with a tight power supply is working.

The people of California are speaking very loudly and very effectively, S. David
Freeman, senior energy adviser to Gov. Gray Davis, said Sunday in a conference call
with reporters.

Peak electricity demand in June declined by 5,570 megawatts, or 14.1 percent,
compared with June of 2000, according to adjusted figures prepared by the California
Energy Commission. Overall, monthly electricity consumption dropped 12.3 percent.

One megawatt is enough energy to power 1,000 homes.

The analysis used raw figures from the California Independent System Operator, which
manages most of the state's power grid.

The figure provided by the ISO was a reduction of only 3,834 megawatts, the state
officials said. The CEC's adjusted number was higher because it accounted for
population growth and slightly hotter weather so far this year.

In June 2000, there were 10 days when electricity demand exceeded 40,000
megawatts. There were no such days in June 2001.

State officials stopped short of saying the conservation marks an end the state's
energy crisis. But they said Californians' energy-saving measures were an important
reason the state avoided blackouts last month, and added that new generators going
online this summer will give the power grid some breathing room.

The combination of new power plants and conservation is closing the gap, Freeman
said.

The first new major power plant in California in more than a decade opened last week
in Bakersfield. Davis, who has said the state's power supply will grow by 4,000
megawatts this summer, is expected to appear Monday at the unveiling of a new, 500-
megawatt plant in Yuba City.

The CEC report lacked specifics on whether businesses or consumers are conserving
more, or on exactly how most Californians are conserving. But officials did offer 
plenty
of anecdotal evidence.

For whole-house fans, the kinds that replace air conditioners, in one store in the
Sacramento area, last year they sold 18, and this year there were 1,000 sales, said
Wally McGuire, the state's conservation campaign manager. I am assuming that
people are buying them as replacements to air conditioners.

Incidentally, the sales of clotheslines in the state are going through the roof, 
Freeman
said.

State officials said they did not know how much conservation efforts are costing the
state, but Davis has said that the state has pledged $800 million to conservation
efforts.

Freeman said the efforts are saving money that would otherwise be spent buying
power on the spot market.

Sunday's report roughly matches a similar analysis put out last month about May
electricity demands. That report showed that demand was down 11 percent. In April
this year, monthly electricity use was down 7 percent over the previous year.


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[CTRL] Eating Fetuses: The lurid Christian fantasy of godless Chinese eating unborn children.

2001-07-02 Thread Michael Pugliese

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Eating Fetuses: The
lurid Christian fantasy of godless Chinese eating
unborn children.
by Miss Poppy Dixon, 10.2000

http://www.jesus21.com/poppydixon/sex/chinese_eating_fetuses.html
indeed ...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/17127.html

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[CTRL] Windows snooping

2001-07-02 Thread Schmidt

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Check my weblog daily for updates

http://leviathan.weblogs.com


This is a long email, and I recommend people with web access visit the site in 
question to view the material. Also, my dos skills are very rusty, so I can't 
personally vouch for any of the information presented.

http://fuckmicrosoft.com/content/ms-hidden-files.shtml

Microsoft's Really Hidden Files v2.0
by The Riddler
May 16, 2001
(v1.0 written on June 11, 2000)

DISCLAIMER:
I will not be liable for any damage or lost information, whether due to reader's 
error, or any other reason.
SUMMARY:
There are folders on your computer that Microsoft has tried hard to keep secret. 
Within these folders you will find two (major) things: Microsoft Internet Explorer has 
been logging all of the sites you have ever visited -- even after you've cleared your 
cache, and Microsoft's Outlook and Outlook Express has been logging ALL of your e-mail 
correspondence -- even after you've erased them from your trashbin. (This also 
includes all incoming and outgoing e-mail attachments.) And believe me, that's not 
even the half of it.

When I say that these files are hidden well, I really mean it. If you don't have any 
knowledge of DOS, then don't plan on finding these files on your own. I say this 
because some of these files will only be found in DOS while some of these folders can 
only be found in Windows Explorer. Additionally, there are some folders that will not 
be displayed by neither DOS nor Explorer -- but can only be found using a workaround. 
Basically what I am saying is if you didn't know these files existed then the chances 
of you running across them is slim to slimmer.

To give you an example of how sneaky this is, there are three hidden folders that may 
contain your name, address, phone, all the sites you've visited, every single e-mail 
you've sent/received, every attachment you've ever sent/received, everything you've 
searched for in a search engine, every filename you've downloaded, names of documents 
containing sensitive information, copies of all your cookies, full readable e-mail 
from your hotmail account, your PGP keys, and more.

Funny that Microsoft would make no mention of this on microsoft.com.

FORWARD:
I know there are some people out there that are already aware of some of the things I 
mention. I also know that most people are not. The purpose of this tutorial is teach 
people what is really going on with Microsoft's products and how to take control of 
their privacy again.

Thanks for reading.

INDEX

1. DEFINITIONS AND ACRONYMS
2. WHY YOU SHOULD ERASE THESE FILES
3. HOW TO ERASE THE FILES ASAP (Recommended for the non-savvy.)
3.1) If You Own Microsoft Internet Explorer
3.2) Clearing Your Registry
3.3) If You Own Outlook Express
3.4) Slack files
3.5) Keeping Microsoft Internet Explorer (Not recommended at all.)
4. STEP-BY-STEP GUIDE THROUGH YOUR HIDDEN FILES (For the savvy.)
5. A LOOK AT OUTLOOK
6. HOW MICROSOFT DOES IT
7. +S MEANS [S]ECRET NOT [S]YSTEM
8. THE TRUTH ABOUT FIND FAST
8.1) Removing Find Fast
9. HOW HARD MICROSOFT TRIED TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM FINDING ABOUT IT
10. FINAL NOTE AND CONTACT INFORMATION
10.1) Recommended reading
11. SPECIAL THANKS
12. REFERENCES

Coming Very Soon:

mailbox.pst
pstores
Related Windows Tricks.
Reflection of why they use alphanumeric folders (9J3X7QZF4.)
Everything you didn't want to know about Find Fast.
The NSA-Key.
The [Microsoft Update] button.
Why the temp folders aren't intended to be temporary at all.
What's in those .dbx files?



1. DEFINITIONS AND ACRONYMS
Well, the best definition I have been able to come up with is the following:

I) A really hidden file/folder is one that cannot be seen in Windows Explorer after 
enabling it to view all files, cannot be seen in MS-DOS after receiving a directory 
listing, and cannot be searched through using the Find utility.
a) There is at least one workaround to enabling Explorer to see them.
b) There is at least one workaround to enabling MS-DOS to see them.
c) There is at least one workaround to enabling the Find utility to search through 
them.
d) They are hidden intentionally.

II) Distinguishes really hidden file/folders from just plain +h[idden] ones, such as 
your MSDOS.SYS or Sysbckup folder.

III) Distinguishes from certain other intended hidden files, such as a file with a 
name of šŸëœx¥.

DOS = Disk Operating System
MSIE = Microsoft Internet Explorer
TIF = Temporary Internet Files (folder)
HD = Hard Drive
OS = Operating System





2. WHY SHOULD I ERASE THESE FILES?
1) Besides the glaring privacy risks.
2) Besides the fact that Microsoft is keeping these logs intentionally. (For reasons I 
can only imagine.)
3) These files can take up huge amounts of disk space. I've personally inspected a 
computer with almost 200 megs of 

[CTRL] Fwd: Rosh HaShanah War/News: ISRAEL DEFENSE MINISTER BEN-ELIEZER ACKNOWLEDGES C.I.A. TRAINED P.L.O. DEATH SQUADS WITH ISRAELI APPROVAL

2001-07-02 Thread Tenorlove

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They thought they would behave themselves.

~~~
From: Root  Branch Association, Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Rosh HaShanah War/News:  DEFENSE MINISTER BEN-ELIEZER ACKNOWLEDGES THAT
THE C.I.A TRAINED P.L.O. DEATH SQUADS WITH ISRAELI APPROVAL

copyright (c) 2001 by the
Root  Branch Information Services
Root  Branch Association, Ltd.

YERUSHALIYIM, D.C. (David's Capital), Yom Rishon (Day One -- Sunday),
10 Tammuz, 5761 (Gregorian Date: July 1, 2001) (Hijri Date: 9 Rabi
Thani, 1422), Root  Branch:  Israeli Defense Minister Binyamin
Ben-Eliezer acknowledged today that the United States Central
Intelligence Agency (C.I.A.) trained P.L.O. death squads in the United
States with the approval of the Barak Government and Mr. Shimon Peres,
currently Foreign Minister in the Sharon Government and formerly
Minister of Regional Cooperation in the Barak Government.

Defense Minister Ben-Eliezer made his remarks during a press conference

today at the Inbal Hotel (formerly the Laromme Hotel) in Jerusalem,
organized by the Foreign Press Association in Israel (F.P.A.).

Mr. Ben-Eliezer was responding to a question posed by F.P.A. member Mr.

Aryeh Gallin of the Root  Branch Information Services.

Mr. Ben-Eliezer did not deny that any of the alleged facts cited in Mr.

Gallin's question were true.

Mr. Ben-Eliezer simply said that the then Israeli Government thought
the C.I.A. trained P.L.O. death squads would 'behave themselves'.


GALLIN QUESTION (verbatim):

While Netanyahu was prime minister, C.I.A. Chief John Deutsch
appointed George Tenet to serve as C.I.A. liaison between Israel and
the P.L.O.

While Barak was prime minister, then Regional Cooperation Minister
Shimon Peres agreed to Tenet's request that the P.L.O. send 40 quote
unquote policemen for advanced C.I.A. sniper, marksmanship and
advanced weapons training in Virginia.

Mr. Defense Minister, are not those C.I.A. trained P.L.O. squads the
very ones today inflicting such terrible casualties on so-called Arab
collaborators, the I.D.F., and Jews in Gilo and especially in Judea,
Samaria and Gaza?

And, Mr. Defense Minister, why was the C.I.A. request to train these
P.L.O. squads routed through and approved by a Regional Cooperation
Minister, Mr. Shimon Peres?


BEN-ELIEZER ANSWER (summary*):

'We thought that they would behave themselves'.

*The Root  Branch Information Services will publish the verbatim text
of Mr. Ben-Eliezer's answer as soon as we receive a tape recording of
the press conference. [Tenorlove note: I will forward it to CTRL as
soon as I get it.]

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MILLION, THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND (1,366,869) websites
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Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?

2001-07-02 Thread Tenorlove

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--- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Milosevic was
 under
 close supervision last night; his parents committed suicide and there
 are
 fears that he might try to do the same.

I'd like to see some evidence that his parents willfully committed
suicide. or are we adding them to the U.N. Body Count?

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Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?

2001-07-02 Thread Tenorlove

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Bill Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Yup, the guards will find him feet up on the bottom of his cage some
 morning.
 The cornor's ruling will be he died by his own hand.

That's right, Bill.. the presdisposition to being suicided runs in
families. Sorry folks, pre-emptive suicide by those who know stuff is
about as credible as the lone nut gunman.

Just like
 Reichs furer
 Hess.

That was Goering who was suicided in his cell right before he was to go
on trial. Hess lived to a ripe old age in Spandau Prison, according to
mainstream reports.

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Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Nurev Ind.

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c. wrote:

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 sorry steve but you are badly informed

 hemp is marijuana is hemp. different varieties. i don't care which badly
 informed info you have to underline your opinion. but it is just not so.
 i have been growing for over 10 years.
 what first hand experience have you?


I strongly recommend that you don't make a clear ststement like this
in  public.

J2


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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon
 (Independent UK) (fwd)

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  On 1 Jul 01, at 21:59, c. wrote:
 
   marijuana is hemp is marijuana. just different strains give different
   emphasis- fruit or flesh.
  
 
  Not correct, c. Hemp and marijuana are related but different. Our
 governments would
  like you to believe that they are the same however.  Read on...
 
  http://zimafoods.ca/diff.html
 
  HEMP VS. MARIJUANA
   Well now that you know how good the seed is, also how many uses there
 are for the
  plant, what really is the difference between hemp
   and marijuana?
  Marijuana is a tobacco-like substance produced by drying the leaves and
 flowering
  parts, or buds, of the Cannabis plant. These particular
  parts of the Cannabis plant are selected for illicit use due to the
 concentration of
  tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, in those particular areas of the
  plant. THC is the chemical present in marijuana that produces the drug
 user's
  psychoactive, or high, effect. Most wild
  marijuana found growing in Canada and the United States has a THC
 concentration of
  less 0.5 percent, compared to
  Colombian or Mexican varieties with a THC content ranging normally between
 3 to 7
  percent. An increase has been noted by
  law enforcement in recent years of large scale domestic production of
 marijuana
  containing much higher THC values,
  sometimes with a THC content as high as 25 percent.
  Marijuana is normally used in its dry form by rolling the same into
 cigarettes, or joints,
  and smoked. A wide variety of other
  smoking utensils, primarily in the form of pipes, are also used.
  Hemp on the other hand is a non-psychoactive cannabis variety. Originally
 there was
  no marijuana per say, just fields of hemp
  grown for fibre, oils and livestock feed as well as food for humans. When
 the slaves of
  the early 1800's began to realize that by
  smoking the flowering tops of the hemp plant they achieved a measure of
 relief from
  the horrible lives they were living as slaves! Thus began
the association between the evil weed marijuana and hemp.
 It was also the
  Mexicans who were smoking the weed before
battle, the song La Cucaracha being about a soldier who
 refused to march
  without some marijuana to smoke. Although
there are similarities, the differences are greater by far.
 
  Click here to see the ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA 1911 entry on hemp.
 
  Although many people think hemp and marijuana are the same it would be
 best to
  describe them as cousins. Hemp is meant as an industrial
  crop. Much like flax or cotton. Hemp can be used for many things, just
 check out the
  uses page and see. Hemp is a wonder plant! If you leave
  aside the 40,000 + products that can be made from hemp the mere fact that
 it has
  survived the US War on drugs never ceases top amaze
  me. People though don't realize that countries unaffected by US foreign
 policy didn't
  stop growing hemp at all. Countries like Poland, Russia,
  India and China to just name a few. Fortunately for us we can now go to
 these peoples
  and regain the information we require to create our own
  hemp industry right here in North America.
  So why does the US have it's War on Drugs while Canada uses hemp to create
 a new
  industry within it's borders? There seems to be a
  definite difference in thinking between Health Canada's way of dealing
 with hemp and
  the US's DEA. Why does Health Canada allow hemp to
  be grown all across Canada while just a few kilometers south of the border
 the DEA is
  actively spraying wild hemp in order to eradicate all
  hemp from within it's borders?
  That of course is not a one two three answer but simply put Health Canada
 is a branch
  of the Government regulating health issues, getting it's
  budget to do just that. The DEA under which the hemp issue is big
 business, $500
  million US last year alone given to the organization to
  eradicate wild hemp and that says nothing of the marijuana enforcement
 dollars. So in
  short, by regulating the growth of the hemp industry in
  Canada the government is creating jobs for the farmers and for the
 manufacturing
  sector. If it were legalized in the states, the paramilitary like
  DEA would lose a lot of it's funding and also it would lose face. The
 Government there
  has worked long and hard, since 1937, to convince it's
  peoples that hemp is 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Rosh HaShanah War/News: ISRAEL DEFENSE MINISTER BEN-ELIEZER ACKNOWLEDGES C.I.A. TRAINED P.L.O. DEATH SQUADS WITH ISRAELI APPROVAL

2001-07-02 Thread Aleisha Saba

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PLO  Death Squads?   Controlled by whom?

Somehow keep remembering the USS Liberty - remember how our men lie on
deck, 37 dead and 171 wounded and these Israeli planes for which we
paid, napalmed and bombed this ship for 45 minutes in an attempt to sink
and destroy the evidence?   A ship in International Waters?

Now this is another item - for George Bush it was reported by a Zionist
press is marked for murder by Osama bin Laden.As Ronald Reagan was
marked for murder itwas reported by a Zionist controlled press Castro
would murer him?

Well JFK, they used a woman who claimed to be Catholic to mark him for
murder over and over, in advance of the actual murder 

All done through the news media?None Dare Call it Propaganda or
Conspiracy to commite murder?

Press was oh so quiet about JFK Jr. - it was said a Mossad agent drove
him to the airport,  the man was his chauffer?

Arabs have little back pack bombs too only I have a feeling they are not
afraid to use them.

When Osama bin Laden hits, it won't be the USA - Remember the USS
Liberty and the USS Cole.   Supposed to turn the Americans against the
Egyptians and Arabs?

Slowly the tiger awakens with the lion - for this little state of Israel
has pulled the tail and bititen the hand that has fed them for a little
too long an people are fed up.   Let them go to war and make it a fair
fight, not like Waco - give them all big bombs, and not just load up the
poor with stones - however, some of these stones could be loaded with
some surprises.

Take a good look at of these assassins and their tactics for they all
had the same teacher?

The end of Israel is near only they do not know it;  and then what will
emerge from the ashes?  Why the spectre and the Rose?   Black Rose?

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] Dangers of the New Age movement

2001-07-02 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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What do 'conflict diamonds' have to do with the subject line of the post,
Dangers of the New Age movement...?


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[CTRL] Sharon Must Stand Trial

2001-07-02 Thread flw

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Will Milosevic soon have a cell mate?
flw

THE COURIER MAIL
Belgian trial for Sharon

02jul01

A BELGIAN judge has ruled that a complaint against Israel's Prime
Minister Ariel Sharon, accusing him of crimes against humanity, would
be admissible in a Brussels court, a Belgian newspaper reported yesterday.

The court will now launch an investigation into events surrounding the killing
of hundreds of Palestinian men, women and children at the Sabra and Shatila
refugee camps in Lebanon in 1982, Le Soir reported.
The complaint was filed under a 1993 law allowing Belgian courts to
prosecute foreign officials for human rights violations committed outside
Belgium.

Also a complaint against Iraqi President Saddam Hussein for alleged
crimes against humanity was ruled admissible in Belgium.

In Jerusalem, the fate of a Middle East peace plan hung in the balance
yesterday as fresh violence stymied efforts to establish a seven-day
period of calm supposed to precede the key steps of an agreement.

Israeli soldiers killed two Palestinians trying to plant a bomb along a
West Bank road, while an Israeli-Arab motorist was injured slightly
when Palestinian gunmen fired on his car.

The violence followed a meeting between Palestinian leader Yasser
Arafat and Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres at the Socialist International
meeting in Lisbon in a bid to calm tensions.

Palestinian witnesses said a dawn gunbattle between Israeli soldiers
and Palestinian gunmen ensued after the two Palestinians, one of whom
served as a policeman in Mr Arafat's security forces, were killed near
the West Bank town of Jenin.

Officials said the two planned to set off the bomb as Jewish settlers
passed by later in the day in a procession. In other West Bank violence
the army said shots were fired from a Palestinian village of Sheikh
Shiban at an Israeli truck driven by an Israeli-Arab.

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Re: [CTRL] Sharon Must Stand Trial

2001-07-02 Thread Steve Suranie

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The court will now launch an investigation into events surrounding
the killing
 of hundreds of Palestinian men, women and children at the Sabra and
 Shatila
 refugee camps in Lebanon in 1982, Le Soir reported.
 The complaint was filed under a 1993 law allowing Belgian courts to
 prosecute foreign officials for human rights violations committed outside
 Belgium.

I'm assuming that this means if Sharon or Hussein are ever on
Belgium soil. Otherwise it is hard to see where Belgium would have the
authority to arrest them. Even if they were on Belgium soil its a little
presumptuous for Belgium to take it upon itself to take on the role of the
international law giver. This is the reason the Hague, despite its
misgivings and lack of real judicial power,  was established.

Will Milosevic soon have a cell mate?

Doubtful. The only reason Slob is on trial at the Hague is that
Yugoslavia needs Western cash. According to a report on NPR polls taken in
Yugoslavia show people think Milosevic is a criminal (bear in mind not a war
criminal) for embezzeling money from the government and extortionist
practices against Yugoslavian and international businesses. For that reason
they feel he should be tried and imprisoned in Yugoslavia for these crimes.

=
From CNN.com, April 2, 2001
=

The U.S. secretary of state has decided that Yugoslavia qualifies
for $50 million aid, following the arrest of Slobodan Milosevic.   The U.S. had 
threatened to cut off the aid if Yugoslavia did not co-operate
with a U.N. war crimes tribunal request that Milosevic be handed over by the
end of March.   A senior U.S. official told CNN that Milosevic's arrest on Sunday was a
significant factor in Colin Powell's decision -- although further
co-operation with the war crimes tribunal would be expected.   The tribunal wants 
Milosevic to be handed over to face the charges over
atrocities committed against ethnic Albanians in Kosovo...

...It is not yet clear that the former president -- arrested on
charges of stealing state funds during his 13-year rule -- actually will be
sent to the tribunal.

Yugoslav President Vojislav Kostunica has repeatedly refused to
extradite Milosevic -- who was overthrown in a popular revolt last year --
insisting he should be tried at home for corruption and other alleged
crimes.


End of article


The only way Sharon or Hussein could face trial in Belgium is if
they ever stepped foot on Belgium soil or if the government of those two
countries arrested them and sent them there. The international community has
no leverage on either state nor are either of these leaders, despite their
current and past hardships, in danger of some internal faction arresting
them and sending them to Belgium.

Steve

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 Will Milosevic soon have a cell mate?
 flw

 THE COURIER MAIL
 Belgian trial for Sharon

 02jul01

 A BELGIAN judge has ruled that a complaint against Israel's Prime
 Minister Ariel Sharon, accusing him of crimes against humanity, would
 be admissible in a Brussels court, a Belgian newspaper reported yesterday.

 The court will now launch an investigation into events surrounding the
 killing
 of hundreds of Palestinian men, women and children at the Sabra and
 Shatila
 refugee camps in Lebanon in 1982, Le Soir reported.
 The complaint was filed under a 1993 law allowing Belgian courts to
 prosecute foreign officials for human rights violations committed outside
 Belgium.

 Also a complaint against Iraqi President Saddam Hussein for alleged
 crimes against humanity was ruled admissible in Belgium.

 In Jerusalem, the fate of a Middle East peace plan hung in the balance
 yesterday as fresh violence stymied efforts to establish a seven-day
 period of calm supposed to precede the key steps of an agreement.

 Israeli soldiers killed two Palestinians trying to plant a bomb along a
 West Bank road, while an Israeli-Arab motorist was injured slightly
 when Palestinian gunmen fired on his car.

 The violence followed a meeting between Palestinian leader Yasser
 Arafat and Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres at the Socialist
 International
 meeting in Lisbon in a bid to calm tensions.

 Palestinian witnesses said a dawn gunbattle between Israeli soldiers
 and Palestinian gunmen ensued after the two Palestinians, one of whom
 served as a policeman in Mr Arafat's security forces, were killed near
 the West Bank town of Jenin.

 Officials said the two planned to set off the bomb as Jewish settlers
 passed by later in the day in a procession. In other West Bank violence
 the 

Re: [CTRL] Clintons' hit squad

2001-07-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 06/28/2001 11:21:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Paula Jones seemed to echo the sentiment of other frightened survivors of
the reputedly ruthless purge when she announced on CNN: If I come up
strangely dead, I didn't kill myself. 

And Paula was right.  I had every fear that when she ceased to be useful to
the folks who were funding her so generously that they would find a way to be
sure she never retracted any of her statements.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] The Incredible Shrinking Presidency

2001-07-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 06/29/2001 11:11:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I want a President who has the dignity and good sense to fade into the back
 ground 

Congratulations on having a president who fades out, but as for all that
dignity you're after, it doesn't seem to be in evidence.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Iowa becoming battleground

2001-07-02 Thread Yardbird

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For an immigration time-out: http://www.projectusa.org/

Immigration controversy: Iowa becoming battleground
Issue 80: July 1, 2001

+== TIME OUT PROJECT ==+

In 1999, Iowa Governor Tom Vilsak suggested Iowa put itself above
federal immigration limits and turn Iowa into another Ellis Island.
Claiming there was something called a labor shortage in the state, the
governor openly admitted that importing cheap labor was the
justification for his plan.

Iowans, however, were less than enthusiastic about the governor's
proposal; many Iowans were not happy with a plan that would further
lower wages in a state where wages are already so low relative to other
regions of the country that Iowa has a difficult time retaining its own
young people.

ProjectUSA, joining the majority of Iowans, criticizes as politically
irresponsible and environmentally unsustainable such short-sighted
schemes to harvest the cheap labor of other nations. Already immigration
levels are so high that the United States is growing at a faster rate
than China.  We question the wisdom of continuing to promote such
massive growth and have been active in Iowa raising public debate about
this important issue.

Now, the controversy surrounding our efforts has helped make Iowa an
emerging battleground state on immigration policy.

Town hall meeting to examine immigration Mason City (IA) Globe-Gazette
http://www.globegazette.com/news/2001/062001/week4/24/ni4.shtml

Charges of racism cloud immigration arguments Christian Science
Monitor
http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2001/06/25/p17s1.htm

Labor shortage overstated, research group contends Des Moines Register
http://www.dmregister.com/news/stories/c4789010/14999603.html

New Arrivals in Iowa Are Immigration Signs, New York Times
http://projectusa.org/press/june01/new-york-times-6-24-01.html

The Iowa poll: Immigration and meat-packing, Des Moines Register
http://desmoinesregister.com/extras/iowapoll/200011/immigration.html


+== TAKE POSITIVE ACTION ==+

In the face of strong criticism, Governor Vilsack has publicly backed
off his suggestion to exempt Iowa from federal immigration policy, but
the councils he created to accommodate the needs of newcomers and
propagandize for diversity continue to actively advance his agenda.

Three towns in Iowa have been declared model cities for the governor's
proposal, and now one of the towns, Mason City, finds itself at the
center of the mass immigration battle.  While some in the Mason City
business community eagerly await the increase in consumers and cheap
labor that the governor's plan promises, community reaction against the
high-handed state policy has been fierce.

Reacting to the criticism, City Councilmember and chair of Mason City's
New Iowans Committee, Lori Henry, 641-423-4478, in a guest editorial
printed Tuesday in the Mason City Globe-Gazette, assures residents that
the governor's plan is not really an attempt to lure immigrants to Iowa,
but, rather, is now only an attempt to attract both immigrants and
non-immigrants currently living elsewhere in the United States.

Most residents, of course, recognize Ms. Henry's new plan as unworkable
or silly and her recent assurances as nothing more than a strategy to
slip the plan through against the express will of the majority of
Iowans.

At their meeting Tuesday evening, the City Council in Mason City, which
has scheduled a vote on the implementation of the New Iowan plan, will
be presented with more than 1500 signatures on a petition against the
governor's scheme.

One thousand, five hundred signatures, in a city of 29,000, is a
significant number -- especially given that democratic debate on this
issue has been largely squashed by the use of insults like racist.

Here is how you can help: Please take a minute and call the person below
with the following message: The majority of Iowans, according to a Des
Moines Register poll, oppose transforming Iowa into a state that is
reliant on an endless stream of cheap foreign labor.  Please oppose
Governor Vilsack's reckless plan.  Tell the governor to stop using Mason
City as a tool to push through his cheap labor agenda.  A country should
do its own work.

Bill Schickel, Mayor, 641-421-3600


+== QUOTE OF THE WEEK ==+

I know no country in which, speaking generally, there is less
independence of mind and true freedom of discussion than in America.

Alexis de Tocqueville
Democracy in America


+==EMAIL OF THE WEEK==+

We make the appearance of controlling our border by publicizing
expensive border policies to limit illegal immigration, and at the same
time provide amnesties, 245i policies, and enact legislation to further
provide magnets for illegal immigration. If that is not stupid, I have
no idea what stupid is.

Richard Pelto
Kenmore,WA


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Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK)(fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 7/1/01 6:31:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Just to confuse the issue... Did you know that canvas comes from the word
cannabis and was a huge part of the old hemp/ maritime industry 

So when the sailors got bored they smoked their sails? Or where the officers
the only ones allowed to do that.

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Re: [CTRL] Israel to turn Martyrs Graveyard into Zoo (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 06/30/2001 10:01:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hundreds of Muslims are buried in the graveyard, many of them were killed
 by Israel in past years.

 The Safad municipality has already fenced the graveyard as a preliminary
 step before turing it into a zoo.

 In a letter to the Jewish head of the city, the secretary of the
 association Abd Al Majid Ighbariaya asked for an urgent meeting that would
 discuss the future of the graveyard, a few days after the Arab guards of
 the graveyard were forced to leave.

 Many Muslim graveyards and historic mosques were destroyed by the Israelis
 in the past years, some being converted to parks and shopping malls. 

One thing you can say for the Israeli, they sure know how to add insult to
injury.  It's okay, we've just started burying the bodies of Native Americans
we kept in variousl museum exhibits.  It takes about 200 years for these
matters, so In abaout 2201, the Israeli will change their ways.

It is interesting to think that the Israeli are building zoos in their small
towns.  That must mean they have museums, schools, libraries and hospitals.
They're way ahead of us.  Most of our small towns just rely for such things
in hub cities.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Howard

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 Where'd you hear this? It's absurd. Hash isn't cooked. The process
doesn't involve any heat whatsoever. 

This was reported years ago on that very liberal news network, ABC.

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Re: [CTRL] Californians cut power use 12 percent last month

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Howard

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 Californians cut power use 12 percent last month 

The sad truth is, if the brain dead politicans hadn't scewed things up when
they deregulated the electrical industry, Californians wouldn't have to worry
about concerving electricity.

BTW, you don't save electricity. Electricity is an either or thing. You
either have it or you don't. If the generators are working, you have
electricity. If the generators are off line, then you are SOL. Try running
your dishwasher on batteries.

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Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Howard

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 I'd like to see some evidence that his parents willfully committed
suicide. or are we adding them to the U.N. Body Count? 

Remember Herr Goring, he was under close opservation and the authorities
found him at room temperture one morning.

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Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie

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Specifically, should the authorities use a world population reduction
program as an opportunity to remove specific populations that are
historically troublesome, backward, or otherwise undesirable?


The authorities, ALL the authorities, should take poison and thus save
humanity the trouble of stretching thier necks. 

But to answer your question, yes, by all means we must unite to destroy
the one  specific population group which is responsible for virtually
all of our problem, the ruling class. The plutocrats and thier lackeys
are a cancer on the world's body politic. They must be excised by any
means necessary, save one. We must never pursue a course of action which
would lead to them being replaced. Our problem is not the individuals
which constitute the present ruling class, but the existence of the
class itself. Destroying them is not enough. We must destroy it. They
live in mansions and palaces. It lives in the mind of thier victims. We
must cast out of our own minds the bogus notion that we need to be
ruled. They we can run our own lives, as individuals, as local
communities and as the great community of mankind. We can do this. We
have the numbers. We have the technology. All that we lack is the will.

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Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 Does it make any difference WHICH populations have their future births
 carefully planned by the authorities to achieve the end of world population
 reduction?

 Specifically, should the authorities use a world population reduction
 program as an opportunity to remove specific populations that are
historically
 troublesome, backward, or otherwise undesirable? 

You must think people are a lot dumber than I give them credit for.  We don't
need authorities to plan which or whom or anything.  We need real education
regarding family planning and child rearing.  I would have loved to have a
third child, but I knew that two were all we could afford.  Bill Gates can
have hudreds, although there is another kind of investment necessary to
successfully rear a child--time; and that just might keep even him limiting
it to no more than ten.  One of the few places I've ever seen intelligent
explanation to people given regarding the limiting of family size was on
Egyptian television.  It said everything anyone could need to know, and it
was done with cartoons.  A ten year old could have gotten the idea.  It
doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that children are an expensive
luxury in more ways than one.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Bush to throw 'protectionist bombshell' at Europe

2001-07-02 Thread Carl Amedio



MONDAY JULY 02 2001 

Bush to throw 'protectionist bombshell' at Europe   

FROM CHRIS AYRES IN NEW YORK

FEARS are growing that President Bush could throw a “protectionist 
bombshell” at Europe in retaliation for it blocking the $42 billion (£30 
billion) acquisition of Honeywell International by General Electric. The EU’s 
decision to block the merger of the US industrial groups — which it could 
announce as early as tomorrow — is the latest in a series of transatlantic 
trade disputes that have strained relations between Washington and Brussels. 
The disputes, which threaten to trigger a full-scale trade war between two of 
the world’s biggest trading partners, come on top of transatlantic tensions 
over other issues such as the environment. The most likely target of US 
protectionism is the European steel industry. President Bush last week 
angered the EU by using section 201 of the 1974 Trade Act to launch a 
six-month investigation into the impact of European imports on the struggling 
US steel industry. If the investigation finds that imports are harming the 
US, President Bush can impose quotas on imports, punitive tariffs and other 
protectionist measures. This could have a devastating effect on European 
steelmakers, including Britain’s Corus, which export about five million 
tonnes of finished steel products to the US a year. The steel dispute comes 
amid an equally damaging row over tax subsidies given to US companies 
operating in Europe. The World Trade Organisation (WTO) last month ruled that 
the Bush Administration was breaking international trade regulations by 
offering the subsidies, and opened the door for the EU to impose $4 billion 
in sanctions against the US. Robert Zoellick, the US trade representative, 
said that imposing the sanctions would be like dropping a “nuclear weapon” 
on trade relations between the two continents. The US has already failed to 
hide its anger over the EU’s rejection of the Honeywell deal. The EU also 
last year blocked AOL Time Warner’s acquisition of EMI Group, the British 
record company. There are concerns in Washington that the EU has a hidden 
anti-US agenda. President Bush recently said that he was concerned about the 
EU’s stance on Honeywell, while Donald Evans, the Commerce Secretary, pleaded 
with the EU to clear the industrial merger. Attempts by Washington to 
influence the EU’s investigation last month provoked a furious response from 
Mario Monti, the EU’s Competition Commissioner. He said: “I deplore attempts 
to misinform the public and to trigger political intervention. This is 
entirely out of place in an antitrust case and has had no impact on the 
Commission whatsoever. This is a matter of law and economics, not politics.” 
Imposing tough sanctions on European steel imports would be a popular move 
for President Bush in the US. The Speciality Steel Industry of North America, 
said last week: “We believe that substantial dumping continues in the US 
marketplace. We will closely monitor developments and, if and when 
appropriate, will ask the Administration to initiate additional section 201 
cases on affected products.” Washington and Brussels are already involved in 
a related row over steel duties. The EU has threatened to take the US to a 
WTO dispute panel over its “anti-subsidy duties” on steel imports from about 
16 European companies. The EU won a similar WTO case last year against the US 
over duties on imports of leaded bars produced by Corus.
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Re: [CTRL] Israel to turn Martyrs Graveyard into Zoo (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Interesting item Prudy; but I found this item which leaves me to wonder
- note houses being marked, etc.

Now my bible calendar code is keyed to a lot of murder - date wise and
time wise..the murder of JFK in particular, a Catholic - the death
of the Pope this same year ..

So who goes about portraying roles in the bible. this item is
propaganda, the wordl prophecy equates to the word propaganda - and all
is ready except this time  - well the big prophecy is 5 nations will
beat the hell out of the Israeli State, of course we have paid for this
war - and who controls munitions?

Osama bin Laden's men have surprises in store, for long ago it 85 or 86,
it was revealed Israeli's had little back pack bombs - the kind that
could wipe out an entire smaller city; and this it seems now is wht
Osama's suicide agents will be carrying

Regardless, see how the bible is used here - but today the attitude is
changing..and many will never return to their houses ...

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[CTRL] Good Example of None Dare Call it Propaganda .....

2001-07-02 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Here is item.my letter got away.

Bible Prophecy on the Defeat of the Arabic Alliances Against Israel
I remember being a young boy in Jericho when The American Council came
from Jerusalem with information on a war about to erupt. They started to
evacuate all of the Americans in the area, and since my mother was an
American they came to the rescue, my father however refused as he loved
his country.
The Six Day War began. The Jews captured old Jerusalem and the rest of
Palestine... A great disappointment to Arabs and Muslims worldwide! I
remember many things from the war; the thunder of the bombs and chatter
of machineguns that went on day and night for six days. Many Arab
citizens in Jericho started looting stores and houses as people ran and
crossed the Jordan River in fear of the Israelis. The Israeli soldiers
announced Every house with a white flag on its gate will be spared, and
whoever does not have the white mark will be broken in by force. The
war was called the Six Day war because it was won in six days. It was
interesting that on the seventh day, a Rabbi by the name of Goren blew
the ram's horn on the wailing wall in Jerusalem declaring the victory.
Many Jews claim that this was a parallel to Joshua, when he went around
the walls of Jericho six times, then on the seventh day seven times, and
on that day the priests blew the trumpets and everyone shouted with one
voice and the walls came tumbling down, and the Israelites took the
city. To my father in Jericho it did indeed seem that the walls had
tumbled down on him. During the war he was always listening to the
Jordanian radio station, he used to say that the Arabs were wining the
war, but he was listening to the wrong station. The Israeli station was
announcing the truth of their soon coming victory, but instead, my
father chose to believe the Arabs who claimed that the Israelis were
promoting propaganda.
The Arabs have been loosing wars against Israel exactly as the Bible
prophesied in the examples I have showed. The Quran teaches My people
inherits the land, which are Muslims, this was also not true in the
case here. I lived in Israel during the Six Day War, the P.L.O
resistance, the Jordanian Black September civil war, the bloody wars in
Lebanon, and the war of Yom Kippur, with more blood spilt among
ourselves and with no hope of destroying Israel... All of these losses
and we still hoped for that one victory, since that is all what it takes
to destroy them.
Muslims claim Israel is God's punishment on them for allowing bad
government to rule the Islamic world. That's why we see attempts to
topple governments with majority Muslim population. The Islamic world
has its heart set on destroying Israel. The best way to prove this is to
quote the Syrian president Hafez Asad There are still one hundred wars
to come with Israel. All we need to defeat Israel is One.
The God of Israel promised in this second restoration declaring; and
they shall not be pulled up, yet the Arab and Muslim world will try
again.
God in the Bible promised that they will fail. The Psalms of David
(Al-Zabur), in chapter 83. Notice in verse 4 They have said, Come, and
let us cut them off from being a nation, That the name of Israel may be
remembered no more. Which sounds like a speech by Jamal Abdel-Naser and
every other Arabic leader who declared war on Israel and lost. This is
exactly what the Bible foretold thousands of years ago.
It is fascinating as it names all the nations that opposed Israel in the
last 50 years. The nations mentioned are; Edom, Moab, Amalek, Ammon,
children of Lot (Jordan), Ishmaelites and Hagarites (The Arabs), Gebal
(Beirut), The inhabitants of Tyre (People of Lebanon), Philistines
(Palestinians and Syrians), Assyria (Iraq). Notice it said The
inhabitants of Tyre, since God already knew that the city of Tyre
itself will be destroyed and totally removed (Ezekiel 26). How did David
(Daud) know of this if he wrote the Psalms (Al-Zabur) from his own mind?
Why didn't the Quran mention these truths?
Also notice the most important verse Cover their faces with shame, That
they may seek Your name, O Lord. (Psalms 83:16). This is a declaration
to the enemies of Israel that the God of the Bible does not hate the
Arabs or the Muslims, but is requesting them to repent and turn to him,
and believe in his salvation. He is like a loving father to his
children; when they go against his will he has to inflict some pain to
re-direct them his way.
The same God did the same for the Pharaoh of Egypt, he bid him to let
His people go, then started with simple punishments of frogs, hail, and
other stuff, he loved the Egyptians, many of whom went along with Moses.
God is like a father to us, he loves us all, we need to not have a
hang-up when Christians pray Our Father, Muslims always understood
this to mean a physical father, that accusation is not correct, it is by
adoption which is symbolic of his love towards man. In verse 18 of
Psalms 83 it says, That 

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread c.

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From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon
(Independent UK) (fwd)


 -Caveat Lector-

 Hemp is not the drug marijuana.

yes it is steve.

 Any idiot knows that.

no need to be rude- especially as i am not any idiot - because i am sure
about what i am talking about. there are different varieties (strains) of
cannabis and depending on how it is developed over time it has certain
properties. take for instance the plant i am growing just now - it is early
bud variety. a strain developed in canada (i think) and it is 80% cannabis
indica and 20% cannabis sativa. it is a hybrid of the two varieties.
now, why should it be such a stretch of your imagination to accept that
maybe they are all the same plant but different varieties have different
characteristics? i mean, steve, you are not all that familiar with this
subject- so i do not understand why you are so quick to patronise
disagreement of your stance.

You've been smoking too much.

ah, yes, the evidence that you know very little, first hand, about the
subject you are condescending me about. cool. if you knew anything at all
you might realise that the comment above is ludicrous-espeically in the
context of his particular conversation. smoking hash over a long period does
not inhibit the senses and brain functions in the way poeple who haven't
tried it think it might. not gonna make a big speech about this. but the
point is that you show your presumptive ignorance with such comments.




 Hemp does not contain significant amounts of THC.

yes, exactly- it doesn't contain SIGNIFICANT amounts of thc (and the others)
because it is a variety of cannabis that has been grown for the material and
not the resin. i can't even be botherred going on about it in more detail as
it is not pertinent- you *must* see the point i am making.


You can smoke hemp all you want
 and all you'll get is a headache.

yes, yes, steve, but this is just so much second hand information. do some
field work! ;)

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Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread c.

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i appreciate the concern. (no sarcasm intended j.)
i am in no danger from being busted i don't think. the uk is in the midst of
changing the way they administer the laws regarding cannabis. even keith
halliwell (our own drug czar) has recently stated that he acknowledges that
cannabis is not a gateway drug- one that leads to heroin et al. in lambeth
within the last month police are now only cautioning for possession.
and generally there is a mood of live and let live growing- specifically
about cannabis.
buti know about the horrors of the drug war in the land-of-the-free
(copyright1776)

andif i do get busted, well, whatever, they aren't going to sieze my bank
account and, depending on the circumstances, a blind eye may be shown. if
not- then i get a small fine- or an official warning (seeing as how i have
no record).
but right enough j. people should be careful- however tenuous the trail from
the email to the home address is!

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From: Nurev Ind. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent
UK) (fwd)


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 c. wrote:
 
  -Caveat Lector-
 
  sorry steve but you are badly informed
 
  hemp is marijuana is hemp. different varieties. i don't care which badly
  informed info you have to underline your opinion. but it is just not so.
  i have been growing for over 10 years.
  what first hand experience have you?
 

 I strongly recommend that you don't make a clear ststement like this
 in  public.

 J2


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  From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon
  (Independent UK) (fwd)
 
   -Caveat Lector-
  
   On 1 Jul 01, at 21:59, c. wrote:
  
marijuana is hemp is marijuana. just different strains give
different
emphasis- fruit or flesh.
   
  
   Not correct, c. Hemp and marijuana are related but different. Our
  governments would
   like you to believe that they are the same however.  Read on...
  
   http://zimafoods.ca/diff.html
  
   HEMP VS. MARIJUANA
Well now that you know how good the seed is, also how many uses
there
  are for the
   plant, what really is the difference between hemp
and marijuana?
   Marijuana is a tobacco-like substance produced by drying the leaves
and
  flowering
   parts, or buds, of the Cannabis plant. These particular
   parts of the Cannabis plant are selected for illicit use due to the
  concentration of
   tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, in those particular areas of the
   plant. THC is the chemical present in marijuana that produces the drug
  user's
   psychoactive, or high, effect. Most wild
   marijuana found growing in Canada and the United States has a THC
  concentration of
   less 0.5 percent, compared to
   Colombian or Mexican varieties with a THC content ranging normally
between
  3 to 7
   percent. An increase has been noted by
   law enforcement in recent years of large scale domestic production of
  marijuana
   containing much higher THC values,
   sometimes with a THC content as high as 25 percent.
   Marijuana is normally used in its dry form by rolling the same into
  cigarettes, or joints,
   and smoked. A wide variety of other
   smoking utensils, primarily in the form of pipes, are also used.
   Hemp on the other hand is a non-psychoactive cannabis variety.
Originally
  there was
   no marijuana per say, just fields of hemp
   grown for fibre, oils and livestock feed as well as food for humans.
When
  the slaves of
   the early 1800's began to realize that by
   smoking the flowering tops of the hemp plant they achieved a measure
of
  relief from
   the horrible lives they were living as slaves! Thus began
 the association between the evil weed marijuana and
hemp.
  It was also the
   Mexicans who were smoking the weed before
 battle, the song La Cucaracha being about a soldier
who
  refused to march
   without some marijuana to smoke. Although
 there are similarities, the differences are greater by
far.
  
   Click here to see the ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA 1911 entry on hemp.
  
   Although many people think hemp and marijuana are the same it would be
  best to
   describe them as cousins. Hemp is meant as an industrial
   crop. Much like flax or cotton. Hemp can be used for many things, just
  check out the
   uses page and see. Hemp is a wonder plant! If you leave
   aside the 40,000 + products that can be made from hemp the mere fact
that
  it has
   survived the US War on drugs never ceases top amaze
   me. People though don't realize that countries unaffected by US
foreign
  policy didn't
   stop growing hemp at all. Countries like Poland, Russia,
   India and China to just name a few. Fortunately for us we can now go
to
  these peoples
   and regain the information we require to 

Re: [CTRL] Worldwide Recession Now Hits Mexico

2001-07-02 Thread flw

-Caveat Lector-

 A recession hiting Mexico is not good for the USA. This means that there will
 a flood of illigals coming across the border. Can the economy in the USA
 absorp them? Not all of them. 
 BHoward

You fail to appreciate that the Mexicans are not coming to the USA.

The de facto reality is that these Mexicans are returning to Old
Mexico. Soon that part of the US will be absorbed back into
Mexico. Within a few years Mexicans and Mexican - Americans
will be the majority in CA; TX; AZ; and NM.

For better or worse unlimited immigration (legal and illegal) has
become the official policy of the US...we have apparently decided
that we need hundreds of  milliions of more Americans. After all,
there is lots of undeveloped land that has to he paved over...lots
of wildlife left to be exterminated...lots of cities need more haze
and pollution...lots of water to still pollute.

Don't we want North America to be the New India of the 21st
century?

The Soviet Union was absolutely stupid. Instead of spending billions
for useless nukes, all they had to do was send their army to Mexico
and have them illegally cross the border and they would be speaking
Russian in California today instead of Spanish.

Ole!
flw

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[CTRL] Final draft, letter to Armey

2001-07-02 Thread Yardbird

-Caveat Lector-

Hello COCL! Here is the final draft of the letter to Armey, Thanks to all
the signers! If there are any more signers, please email me
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  by tomorrow
morning at 10:00 and let me know. Also, if there are any mistakes on the
information below, like titles that are missing, again, please let me know.
Thanks to those of you who sent in advice and wanted to add information, we
did change it. The final letter will be sent to Armey's office tomorrow
afternoon, so please make sure to get all comments, changes, additions, and
additional information is sent to me by 10:00 in the morning. Our server has
been getting work done on it, so I apologize if anyone received COCL updates
more than once. The problem is fixed now! Thanks! -Hannah

 The Honorable Richard K. Armey
 Office of the Majority Leader
 U.S. Capitol H327A
 Washington, D.C. 20515

 July 3, 2001

 Dear Mr. Armey,

Thank you for your continued leadership and example on protecting the
personal privacy of Americans.  As members of organizations committed to
protecting privacy, we support your efforts to ensure that our
Constitutional rights and liberties are protected.

As you know, many federal government policies are fraught with privacy
abuses. We commend your leadership on these issues such as Carnivore
(DSC1000), FIDNet, Know Your Customer, thermal imaging, surveillance
cameras, civil asset forfeiture, etc.  The following organizations support
your efforts in continuing to expose and resolve some of these government
abuses of privacy.  The recent decision from the Supreme Court regarding the
use of thermal imaging plays a vital role in the equation, as privacy may be
violated in the name of the drug war.

Too often, government abuses of privacy can cause, directly or indirectly,
corporate or other private sector abuses of Americans' privacy.  These
privacy abuses need to be closely watched because of the negative
ramifications they have on the personal lives of our fellow Americans.  We
appreciate your leadership against the federal medical privacy rule and the
unique patient identifier. These issues illustrate some of the problems with
the intersection of government and private sector privacy violations.

As we approach our celebrations for our nation's Independence, we are
reminded of our country's leaders who fight to defend our rights.  This
fight is a noble one, and we recognize your leadership in this never-ending
struggle.  With changes in technology affecting our lives at such a rapid
pace, we are pleased to have someone who understands its potential problems
and is willing to take a stand to address them to the protection of our
Constitutional liberties.


Respectfully,



Paul M. Weyrich
National Chairman
Coalition for America

Lisa S. Dean
Vice President for Technology Policy
Free Congress Foundation

Chris Hoofnagle
Legislative Counsel
Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC)

Congressman Bob Schaffer
Fourth District of Colorado
U.S. House of Representatives

Christian Josi
Executive Director
American Conservative Union

Twila Brase, R.N.
President
Citizens' Council on Health Care

Jim Harper
Editor
Privacilla.org

Richard W. Rahn
Senior Fellow
Discovery Institute

Evan Hendricks
Editor/Publisher
Privacy Times

George C. Landrith
Executive Director
Frontiers of Freedom

Senator Malcolm Wallop (ret.)
Chairman
Frontiers of Freedom

Dr. Jane Orient, MD
Executive Director
Association of American Physicians  Surgeons

James Landrith
Editor  Publisher
The Multiracial Activist and The Abolitionist Examiner

J. Peyton Knight
American Policy Center

Adrian Day
President
Global Strategic Management

 Jim Lilley
 Director of Development
Baptist International Missions, Inc.

Karen Kerrigan
Chairman
Small Business Survival Committee

Mrs. Donna Kromer
Executive Director
Taking America Back Ministries

Rev. Bob Vanden Bosch
Director
Concerned Christian Americans

Miriam Archer
Director of Operations
Christian Coalition of CA

Phyllis Schlafly
Eagle Forum

Dani Hansen
Idaho Eagle Forum

Dottie Feder
Vice President
Eagle Forum of Wisconsin

Patricia A. Bradburn
President
Virginians for Property Rights

Terrye Seckinger
Vice Chairman
South Carolina Baptist for Life

Lowell T Patterson
State Chairman
Constitution Party of NJ

Eunie Smith
President
Eagle Forum of Alabama

Aaron Starr, CPA
Chairman
Libertarian Party of California

Eddie Spraggs
Chairman
Jackson Purchase Republicans

Joey Davis
State Director
Concerned Women for America of Missouri

Dot Ward
President
Eagle Forum of Mississippi

Helen Blackwell
Chairman
Virginia Eagle Forum

Patricia J. Owens
Wisconsin State Sovereignty Coalition

Janine Hansen
President
Nevada Eagle Forum

Joel and Janine Hansen
Nevada Families Education Foundation

Joel Hansen
State Chairman
Independent American Party of Nevada

Galen E. Alexander
Founder  Chairman
Ohio Conservative Alliance

Julie Dillenburg
Commonwealth Education 

[CTRL] Corrupt Burmese Major General Thin Sin - Starts War With Thailand Over Bad Drug Deal

2001-07-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://maung3.tripod.com/burmadruggeneral/burmadruggeneral.html
Click Here: A
HREF=http://maung3.tripod.com/burmadruggeneral/burmadruggeneral.html;
http://maung3.tripod.com/…/burmadruggeneral.html/A
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Corrupt Burmese Major General Thin Sin
Starts War With Thailand Over Bad Drug Deal

Lahu Drug Runners intercepted by Shan Army.  Maj. Gen Thin Sin Backs up his
friends
with the Burmese Army, starting a border war with Thailand.



Maj.Gen Thin Sin


A history of disregard, corruption and drugs.
A couple of years ago a Burmese Commercial flight crashed in a storm trying
to land in Tachilek. The Burmese Army Commander requested
Maj. Gen. Thin Sin in Keng Tung to please send a helicopter to assist with
the search.  He would not.
The plane was not found for five days.  It was a few thousand meter only from
the control tower, visible on a clear day.
When Maj. Gen. Thin Sin did come to Tachilek, he went and played golf and
would not visit the wreck site.


A Burmese Army Officer Who Didn't Want To Interupt The General's Golf Holds
The Watch
While He Waits The Helicopter Sits On The Ground In Keng Tung
The Officer Waited For Five Days Like  This, But The General Never Came.

Maj. Gen. Thin Sin Battles the Shan Army for the Lahu Pill Runners



In his battle against the Shans, Maj.Gen Thin Sin began building up a secret
Lahu Home Guard who he started training as commandos to conduct raids and run
speed pills.
The Lahu Home Guard was first run by the Lahu Yi Sae.
In 1999 Yi Sae's number two man, who had a house in Ban Tom And Haen Taek  of
Thailand, was caught by Thai police running speed pills.
Captain under Khun Sa, Yi Sae  had been  in the the Yi Pu San Home Guard
since that time.
In 1999 Yi Sae sent 3 home guard men to carry speed pills to the Thai side.
Shan army troops intercepted and killed them.
Capt. Yi Sae calls Keng Tung and tells Maj. Gen Thin Sin what happened and
asks for his help.
Maj. Gen Thin Sin is connected with the mafia in this regard and controls all
pill running in his region.
Maj.Gen Thin Sin sends Col. Koko to go and help fight the Shan with the
battalion 359 troops from Tachilek.
But the Burmese are defeated, loosing 27 men.
Lahu Home Guard  Lahu Ja Chi Bu from Mong Pya - Mai Yun Home Guard sends
speed pills to Thai side Jan 2001.
Shan army once again intercept his men and kill them, cut off the head of one
soldier and send it to Ja Chi Bu in Mong Pya.
Ja Chi Bu calls Maj.Gen Thin Sin to help him fight the Shans and this starts
the border war with Thailand between Feb 11 and 16.
The bridge is closed.
During the ensuing battles the Burmese army looses one hill to the Thais.
Shan army are located at that position.
Maj.Gen Thin Sin orders the army to make a fixed bayonet only charge.
No shooting, make these Shans fearful and show how tough we are. The Shan
open fire, killing 46 Burmese Soldiers.
But Captain Win Aung of the Tachilek command objected to this event and let
it be known in Tachilek what had occured and why.
Maj.Gen Thin Sin becomes ashamed of this story being known.
He begins to pressure Capt. Win Aung to retire.
After bridge closure Maj.Gen Thin Sin orders all gambling and prostitution to
be allowed.
He gives the order to Tachilek Dist. Police Officer Lt. Col. Oon Myint.
Capt. Win Aung opposes this.  He continues to seize gambling gear which is
now being set up in many places.
Lt. Col. Oon Myint informs Maj.Gen Thin Sin of these events.
On June 21 Capt. Win Aung, Tachilek Commander, is arrested on trumped up
charges that he has been supplying intelligence information to the Shan army.
He had been the Township Chairman for five years, previously a school teacher.

On June 23 Capt. Win Aung is transported to the prison in Keng Tung, Eastern
Shan State.
Lt. Col. Oon Myint is promoted and sent to the Karen State Capital.




Capt. Win Aung
Tachilek Township Officer
Now in the Keng Tung Prison On False Charges
-
Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
All My Relations.
Omnia Bona Bonis,
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End

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[CTRL] Fwd: Enron the CIA

2001-07-02 Thread Kris Millegan





Covert action and political clout help Enron win contracts

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joydeep Mitra)
Date: 1995/08/05


approved: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Surekha Reddy Gaddam - Moderator)
sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
newsgroups: misc.news.southasia

Covert action and political clout help Enron win contracts
By Pratap Chatterjee

WASHINGTON, Jul 31 (IPS) - What links Enron, the largest natural gas company
in the United States, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the Pentagon
and the fast-growing energy markets of developing countries around the
world?
   If you said covert intelligence operations to support
Washington's aggressive pursuit of emerging markets and a network of ''good
old boys'' who have long helped each other in and out of government, you
probably got it right.
   Consider the facts. Houston-based Enron was the one of the first
companies to bag lucrative new deals to build private energy projects in
both the Philippines and India.
   One of the Filipino deals was to take over a power plant from the
Pentagon, the popular name for the U.S. Defence Department. Enron also
bagged two other projects to build power plants in the country.
   The Indian deal was clinched with the help of the CIA which
provided Enron and U.S. government officials with key data on the risks of
the project and strategies of possible competitors, according to published
accounts.
   ''A number of U.S. government agencies worked on helping Enron in the
Department of Commerce's new advocacy centre. Several of them told me that
the CIA had helped them get information, but the Commerce people themselves
would not talk about it,'' David Sanger of the New York Times told IPS.
   Curiously enough, the most senior U.S. diplomat in both
countries when the deals were negotiated was the same, Frank G. Wisner. He
served as ambassador to the Philippines from 1991 well into 1992. He has
presided over the U.S.  Embassy in New Delhi since last August.
   Enron agrees that the ambassador helped it in the final stages of the
Indian deal but says it had no contact with him in Manila.
   ''Enron officials paid a courtesy call on the embassy in
Manila, but ...did not meet Wisner until his arrival in India. The U.S.
government's assistance for the trip to India was to prepare for (Commerce
Secretary) Ron Brown's trip. You must remember that we had been negotiating
in India two years before Wisner or Brown arrived,'' says Diane Bazelides,
Enron's chief spokesperson.
   Enron struck a deal to manage a 28-megawatt power plant in Subic Bay,
formerly the largest U.S. military base in the region, shortly after Wisner
left Manila in July 1992. Enron took over the plant in January, 1993, two
months after the last U.S. troops left the base.
   ''The U.S. embassy staff produced an excellent report on how U.S.
business could win contracts in the former base. They had an edge because
they knew it so well,'' recalls a senior staffer at the Filipino embassy in
Washington.
   Wisner spent a lot of time after arriving in New Delhi last
year helping Enron win a 2.8-billion-dollar deal to build a 2,015-megawatt
power plant near the southwestern coastal town of Dhabol, close to Bombay.
The deal is now under heavy fire for being over-priced. Allegations of
bribery are rife.
   ''If anybody asked the CIA to help promote U.S. business in
India, it was probably Frank. That's his style - take action
rather than wait for somebody else to make a decision,'' a former Wisner
staffer told IPS.
   In recent weeks, newspaper reports have claimed that CIA
support for U.S.  business abroad is now an official priority. On Monday,
for example, the Los Angeles Times reported that the Clinton administration
has issued a set of rules for the CIA to engage in ''economic espionage'' in
keeping with the new, geo-economic mindset of U.S. foreign policy.
   ''The idea is that an ambasador can call on a chief of station (the top
CIA official in a foreign country) to find out who will take the key
decisions on the bid, information on competitors, any possible corruption on
the part of foreign companies,'' a former US ambassador told IPS.
   Wisner is himself long acquainted with the CIA and its
capabilities. His father was one of its architects and served as a top
official there from just after its creation in 1947 until just before his
suicide in 1965.
  As such, he helped oversee the toppling of the Guatemalan
government of Jacobo Arbenz for United Fruit company, a family-owned U.S.
business, in 1954.  He also was involved in the 1953 overthrow of Iranian
Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadeq who had threatened to nationalise U.S. and
British oil interests, and in secret operations against Indonesian President
Sukarno in the mid-1950s.
   Wisner, Jr. has not been associated with anything quite so
dramatic, but he has gone out of his way to promote both U.S. business and
military policy.  Before his posting to New Delhi, Wisner held the number
three 

[CTRL] FC: More on Feds, Raelian cloning lab, and trying to stifle research (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Yardbird

-Caveat Lector-

[Even if we stipulate that Nat is right on the moral and scientific points,
not everything that is immoral or bad science should be against the law.
Unless a federal law is being or is about to be violated, the Feds had no
business on someone's private property or conducting an investigation. And
even if there were a federal law that the admittedly kooky researchers
purportedly violated, that law likely does not comport with the limited
powers outlined in the U.S. Constitution. Also, contrary to the hype of
USNWR, which brags that investigators have uncovered a secret lab tied to
human cloning, the lab is hardly secret. Clonaid publicly says it charges
$200K+ for its services, has sent representatives to testify before
Congress (http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,42717,00.html) and even
lists the address of a PR contact
(http://www.clonaid.com/english/pages/home.html). A contrary view is here:
For a Total Ban on Human Cloning, Jun. 26, 2001
(http://www.weeklystandard.com/magazine/mag_6_40_01/bottum_kristol_ed_6_40_01.asp)
--Declan]



Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 16:49:30 -0400
From: Nat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FC: Feds raid unapproved cloning lab in attempt to stifle research
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Declan, this is a load of horseshit.  The current risks associated with
cloning mammals are unbelievable.  Anyone who attempts to clone a human
given the current state of the art is likely committing an unpardonable
act of cruelty and stupidity- it's akin to my friends in the physics
department here building an atomic pile in the basement.

The failure rate so far is absurd; the chances of a viable birth are
extremely low for human- it's simply miserable for other animals (mice are
relatively easy, but because of quick gestation, not better techniques.
there's quite a few dead baby mice involved still). It has also become
apparent that even the surviving animals may have serious defects later in
life, since adult DNA may have undergone considerable chemical
modification that changes the expression of genes.  Of course the
conservative/anti-abortion folks are likely to be especially disturbed by
these risks; I'd have to say I agree with them, on scientific and moral
grounds.

These are not just concerns for conservatives and Luddites.  I have had
several professors here who have expressed their disapproval of this sort
of research, for similar grounds (and sometimes more general ethical ones
as well). They are still in favor of genetic engineering and manipulation
of other mammals, and their life has been devoted to free and open
scientific research.  [ conversely, at least one of these profs. said he
strongly favored stem cell research. ]

  THOUGH STILL publicly wavering on whether to support funding for stem cell
  research, the Bush administration has begun wading into the tangle of
  issues that accompany the new reproductive technologies. A health official
  testifying before Congress last month signaled the administration's support
  for a bill to ban all human cloning. [...]

Good.  They've got to get something right eventually.  Now if they'd lift
their opposition to stem cell research- a field that could actually
improve human life, unlike cloning.

  Here's an item about the Feds banning certain types of biological research.
  More evidence that government is flexing its muscles to interfere in
  research it has decided is not acceptable...or that it is not controlling
  for its own purposes. I wonder what Thomas Jefferson, a noted amateur

I believe the risks more than justify this sort of interference.  I don't
believe there is any sort of moral consensus about human cloning; this is
an issue which the scientific community cannot afford to ignore the voice
of the public and government.

I fail to see how a group of religious kooks attempting possibly fatal
experiments on human beings deserver our sympathy, or are victims of a
tyrranical government.  It's not like crypto, it's like Revlon using
babies instead of rabbits.

-Nat Echols

(Biologist / Hacker / Depraved East Coast Elitist Ivory Tower Liberal)



Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 17:17:22 -0500
Subject: Re: FC: Feds raid unapproved cloning lab in attempt to stifle
 research
From: Virginia Postrel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Also see my two pieces (take your pick): http://www.dynamist.com/cells.html
and http://www.dynamist.com/opeds/latcells.html

--
Virginia Postrel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Editor-at-large, Reason magazine
Author, The Future and Its Enemies
Economic Scene columnist, The New York Times
http://www.dynamist.com | http://www.reason.com



Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 17:19:13 -0500
Subject: Re: FC: Feds raid unapproved cloning lab in attempt to stifle
 research
From: Virginia Postrel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And see Ron Bailey's BIO reports, 

[CTRL] Fwd: No Gulf War Syndrome Found in British Veterans

2001-07-02 Thread Kris Millegan







-Original Message-

Friday June 29 11:22 AM ET
No Gulf War Syndrome Found in British Veterans

LONDON (Reuters) - Tests on a group of British Gulf War veterans have failed
to
turn up any trace of Gulf War Syndrome, the Ministry of Defense said in a
statement on Friday.

Of the 1,000 veterans who were seen by the Ministry's medical assessment
program between February 1997 and February 1998, only 20 percent were
unwell,
reporting psychiatric complaints and post-traumatic stress disorder.

They were the second group of British veterans of the 1991 conflict to have
been tested by the Ministry for the mystery sickness.

Full text:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010629/sc/britain_gulf_veterans_dc_1.html





[CTRL] FC: Tampa police test face recognition cameras on city streets (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Yardbird

-Caveat Lector-

Orlando seems to have similar plans (alas, the article is offline now):
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/orl-asec-bigbro-033101.story?coll=orl-news-headlines
Technology developed by the University of Central Florida will allow new
cameras that the city of Orlando plans to keep the heart of downtown under
constant surveillance. [...] UCF Professor Mubarak Shah and students in
the schools computer-science department created the software that runs the
system. They designed it to identify individuals in a crowd, track them
and identify some activities, such as running or falling. Future
advancements migt detect pickpockets or physical attacks.

AP article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20010701/aponline172248_000.htm

Background on Super Bowl surveillance:
http://www.politechbot.com/cgi-bin/politech.cgi?name=tampa

---

From: Shirl Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ybor police cameras go spy-tech
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:07:29 -0400

Using new software in surveillance cameras, police go high-tech in their
search for the bad guys.
http://www.sptimes.com/News/063001/TampaBay/Ybor_police_cameras_g.shtml

Hoo boy...

Shirl Kennedy




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[CTRL] Fwd: Re: Enron the CIA

2001-07-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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Most people don't seem to be aware of how Enron originated.  Here's the

research I did to trace those roots.


Linda

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THE RISE OF ENRON FROM J.H. KIRBY’S CORPORATIONS

On July 6, 1901 the Houston Daily Post contained a huge front page headline
and photo of Kirby announcing the chartering of Houston Oil Company of Texas
with a capitalization of $30 million and of the Kirby Lumber Co. with $10
million in capital.  Despite the impressive allegations, Kirby still had to
obtain financing.  He went to Patrick Calhoun, a New York corporation
attorney “with desirable connections in eastern banking circles.”  Calhoun
was the grandson of John C. Calhoun, who subsequently became vice-president
under John Quincy Adams.  Calhoun, a native of South Carolina, owned stock in
the Southern Oil Co., which had 100 producing oil wells in the Corsicana
Field.
The investors Calhoun brought in to Kirby’s companies included Brown Brothers
brokerage company; Simon Borg  Co., originally founded in Tennessee; and
Maryland Trust Co. of Baltimore, the latter being proposed as trustee to
handle the company’s securities and act as its subscription agent.  Maryland
Trust Co. was headed at that time by ex-Confederate officer, Colonel J.
Wilcox Brown.  The Brown Brothers firm was originally called W.  J. Brown of
Baltimore and changed to Brown, Shipley when it opened an associate office in
Liverpool.  The London office opened in 1863 and Liverpool office was closed
in 1889.  Incidentally, the J.P. Morgan investment bank, with its links to
London, was also based in Baltimore before it moved to New York.  The
Alexander Brown Investment Bank is still located in Baltimore directly across
the street from the former location of Sol. Warfield’s bank.
Receivers were first appointed on February 1, 1904, the same day interest was
due on timber certificates, originally issued at $11 million, but reduced to
$7 million, $6 million of which were sold by Brown Brothers.  The
certificates were guaranteed by Houston Oil Co.   The semi-annual payment was
by Brown Brothers  Co. in the amount of $700,000, including $210,000
interest, but only the interest was tendered to Maryland Trust, which was
rejected.  The receivers appointed for Houston Oil were F.A. Reichardt,
cashier of the Planter’s and Mechanic’s National Bank of Houston (of which
John H. Kirby was president) and Thomas H. Franklin, a San Antonio attorney,
Houston Oil’s president.  N.W. McLeod, a “prominent St. Louis lumber man,”
and B.F. Bonner, Kirby’s vice president, of Houston, were appointed as
receivers for Kirby Lumber.   A receiver not mentioned in the New York Times
was Col. J.S. Rice, who, according to his obituary in the Houston Chronicle
on March 12, 1931, had been in the sawmill business in Tyler since 1881,
after starting as a clerk at the Houston  Texas Central Railroad in 1879.
He served as receiver of Kirby Lumber from 1904 to 1909 and was elected vice
president after it was reorganized.  J.S. Rice was also president for a time
of Great Southern Life Insurance, vice president of Houston Land Corporation
(in which Kirby and J.W. Link were also involved), and a director of Missouri
Pacific Railroad Co.
The New York Times quoted Mr. Kirby as saying that both companies were
profitable, and “the only and sole cause of the present trouble lies in the
fact that the securities issued the Houston Oil Company have not been
marketable.”  The Times went on to say that
... interests identified with the Atchison and with the St. Louis and San
Francisco Railroads have a large interest in the Kirby Lumber Company.
Representatives of several banking houses more or less closely associated
with the two companies which have just been placed in receivers’ hands said
yesterday that the assets of the companies were of undoubted value, and that
the proceedings were really the outcome of internal discord.
On February 12, 1904 the Times contained a short story on page 14 stating
that a committee of five had been chosen by the holders of the 6% timber
certificates issued by Maryland Trust—George W. Young, Dumont Clarke, James
Brown, Gerald L. Hoyt, and F.S. Smithers.  A week later, Kirby was again
quoted in the Times, as follows:
“A distinguished Wall Street operator undertook to finance the Houston Oil
Company; had and exercised undisputed authority in the conduct of its
affairs.  He also directed the financial affairs of the Kirby Lumber Company
until about a year ago, and during this period of his control caused the
latter company to invest heavily in the preferred shares of his oil
companyThe Board of Directors of the Houston Oil Company, over the
protest of the Wall Street promoter, who is still a member of the board,
voted to accept the money and to request the Maryland Trust Company not to
proceed, but the money was declined and the demand for receivership persisted
in.”
By the end of March of that year a lawsuit had been filed by members of a
stock syndicate managed by two 

[CTRL] Fwd: Woe Is Me

2001-07-02 Thread Kris Millegan






   Woe Is Me
   'The Noonday Demon' by Andrew Solomon

   Reviewed by Ana Marie Cox
   Sunday, June 24, 2001; Page BW08

   THE NOONDAY DEMON
   By Andrew Solomon
   Scribners. 569 pp. $28

   People often think of depression as a loss of self. But feelings of
   invisibility and isolation should not be confused with selflessness,
   or a lack of self-regard. Far from it: Depression is a paradoxically
   self-centered affair - a black, sucking hole of inward attention that
   turns the entire world into a gray backdrop against which one's own
   pain stands out in agonizing hyperreality.

   In fact, Freud proposed that depression stems from a kind of
   pathological egotism in which a fear of abandonment turns both love
   and hate inward toward the one person that will never leave: yourself.
   In his memoir-cum-cultural-history The Noonday Demon: An Atlas of
   Depression, pharmaceutical scion Andrew Solomon, himself a depressive,
   provides for acute sufferers of Freud's diagnosis a measure of hope
   that such solipsism does not have to prevent recovery.

   Even judged solely by the standards of the memoir, The Noonday Demon
   is remarkably self-indulgent. As an atlas, it depicts a world view
   whose cardinal points are me, myself and I. It is difficult to
   criticize a book in which the author repeatedly reminds the reader of
   the harrowing mental anguish experienced while writing it; critical
   reproaches are, one fears, the epitome of kicking someone while he's
   down. And yet few books on depression deserve to be criticized as much
   as this one, all the more because it is poised to become definitive.
   The product of a million-dollar advance, blurbed by such luminaries as
   Adam Gopnik, Harold Bloom, William Styron and Kay Redfield Jamison,
   The Noonday Demon presents its 500-plus-page self as an exhaustive
   tour of the low-lying landscape of depression. But the book misses
   many things along the way, and we see everything through the author's
   expansive lens of I.

   Solomon can be commended for undertaking what was undoubtedly
   intensive research, and for even attempting to tackle the profusion of
   forms depression takes, reaching into the realms of biology,
   philosophy, politics, gender and - a category often ignored - class.
   His chapters on these subjects handily summarize much of the existing
   literature, and give some context to the many debates (on treatment,
   on government policy) that depression raises. His report on the
   astoundingly unequal coverage insurers provide for treatment of mental
   disorders, as opposed to what some people still insist on calling
   real diseases, and the cost of that lack of coverage is particularly
   devastating. So, too, is his discussion of the paucity of mental
   health options available to the poor, who suffer depression at twice
   the rate of the rest of the population.

   But the presentation of this data suffers from Solomon's extraordinary
   ability to make any given piece of information relate to him. A
   discussion about the fitness of depressives for the workforce becomes
   an opportunity for Solomon to declare that I couldn't be president,
   and it would be a disaster for the world if I were to try. The
   chapter on suicide occasions the insight If I ever attempt suicide,
   I'd like someone to save me. . . .

   The pseudo-clinical manner of these proclamations reaches a disturbing
   apogee when Solomon, again using himself as the prism through which
   all meaning is refracted, discusses the connection between violence
   and depression. He confesses that during one depressive episode he
   became enraged at a friend and beat him badly enough to break the
   friend's jaw and send him to the hospital. But, Solomon says, part of
   me does not rue what happened, because I sincerely believe that I
   would have gone irretrievably crazy if I had not done it. Well okay,
   then.

   This smugness has a more global component as well. Solomon is fairly
   upfront about his rather intimate connection to the drug industry - he
   is the son of Forest Laboratories' CEO Howard Solomon, whose company
   distributes the antidepressant Celexa, and he follows through on his
   prologue's promise to minimize mention of his father's company and its
   products. He is, however, unabashedly in favor of ongoing
   pharmaceutical treatments of depression, advocating antidepressants
   constantly and castigating those cynics who keep suffering patients
   from essentially benign cures. At one point, he goes so far as to
   laud pharmaceutical companies, which last year made about $10.4
   billion off of anti-depressant medications and spent $90 million
   lobbying against prescription drug benefits in Medicare, stating that
   it is perhaps nobler to make a profit by inventing cures for the ill
   than by inventing powerful armaments or producing pandering
   magazines. This is an interesting example of moral 

Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal:Delusional am I?...

2001-07-02 Thread flw

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 DON'T BE DISHONEST! You're not stupid like Saba. You know very
well where that term originated.
 J2

 Don't YOU play games. It is particularly disturbing when former
 victims become oppressors. It proves human nature does not respect
 historical morality. I used the term Final Solution intentionally and
 you know why it is used in this context.

 All the Israelis have to do is to move the Palestinians if that's what they
 deem worth the trouble they'll catch for it. They don't need to kill them
 like Christian Europe and Germany in particular did to the Jews.
 This is obscene bullshit.

You dare post this nonsense and expect anyone to take you seriously?

It is delusional racialist ranting to claim that they don't need to
kill them...just move them. Guess they will just invite all the
Palestinian men, women and children to peacefully and quietly climb
aboard army trucks and casually drive them to a wonderful new place -
probably give them all a cake of soap and a new toothbrush to make
their journey more pleasant...perhaps a box lunch?

For you to call for the forcible removal of millions of people in order to
make room for Israelis (Lebensraum?); or to eliminate a trouble
making ethnic group, is obscene, racist, and beneath contempt.

The current state of Israeli national policy unfortunately proves
the old maxim that we often become that which we hate and
fear the most.
flw









 Isn't it odd that the Disco  Bomber was driven
to the bomb scene by an Israeli agent - and the target was mostly
non religious Russians (many not even Jews) who ironically had
good relations with Palestinians? In a club which welcomed

  But that must be conspiracy junk...like claiming odd
  circumstances surrounding the Rabin assassination.
  flw

 Again, odd compared to what? The Kennedy assassination?
The assassinationof the Tzar? Abe Lincoln? What are comparing it
to? It was a political assaination. What's odd about that?
  J2

Again you are too coy by half. Yes, Rabin's assassination was
political. The Kennedy assassination is a good comparison.
Since both carried out by dark forces that reveal a nation to be
run by an immoral cabal.
flw

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Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal:Delusional am I?...

2001-07-02 Thread Aleisha Saba

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And I say Joshua2, aka Nurev aka Bill Schwartz,  maybe I will join your
Marxist list and let people know what an asshole you really are.

As you lurk on lists, you do not join, you infiltrate; but the line I
liked most in your letter re this Marxist list was  how to target an
enemy and concentrate all of your hatred towards them.

Now you go back to your little Marxist list of ADL self ordained spies,
and give your report.

Loved that stuff you put out though about spying on the Militias?   I
bet they are still laughing?

Saba aka Colleen

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Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie

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Hess lived to a ripe old age in Spandau Prison, according to mainstream
reports.


Hugh Thomas made a compelling case to the contrary.

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Re: [CTRL] Top Censored Stories of 2000

2001-07-02 Thread flw

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   TOP 25 CENSORED STORIES OF 2000:
 http://projectcensored.org/cyearbook.htm

 25: Community Activists Outsit McDonalds
 http://projectcensored.org/c2001stories/25.html
 
  THIS is one of the TOP 25 CENSORED STORIES OF 2000?
  What a bunch of Barbra Streisand.

Considering all the disturbing incidents of national, international
statist and multinational corporate perfidy; violations of human rights;
new plots and schemes to destroy freedom through corporate
statism, Project Censored should be renamed Project Coverup.
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Re: [CTRL] please verify entries

2001-07-02 Thread JOHN PORTER
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A listing of freedom sites has been updated at the following URL:

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[CTRL] Increasingly, US stands alone on Sudan

2001-07-02 Thread Yardbird

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Increasingly, US stands alone on Sudan

EU nations move towards engagement

By Declan Walsh, Globe Correspondent, 7/1/2001

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/182/nation/Increasingly_US_stands_alone_on_Sudan+.shtml

HARTOUM, Sudan - There are few tourist traps in this city of blast-furnace
temperatures, grinding poverty, and strict Muslim laws. But one unlikely
attraction is to be found on the northern edge of town, where the ugly
industrial zone trails off into the desert.


A smiling guard welcomes visitors to El Shifa, the manufacturing plant
destroyed by a deadly barrage of American cruise missiles in 1998.
President Clinton, who ordered the attack, claimed the factory was a
secret chemical weapons facility; Sudan said it manufactured life-saving
medicines.


Now the owner is bringing a multimillion-dollar lawsuit against the US
government and, to prove his point, allows anyone who wishes to look
around.


''We respect America, but she did something bad for us here,'' said Abdul
el-Munign, a young man who guides the curious through the rubble.


This stark skeleton of El Shifa is also a symbol of the persistent enmity
between the United States and Sudan's Islamic regime. For the United
States, Sudan is a pariah state in the same league as Iraq, North Korea,
and Afghanistan. American companies are prohibited from doing business
here, the US Embassy is officially closed, and the State Department still
considers Khartoum to be a terrorist safe haven.


But recently other nations, particularly in Europe, have started to reject
America's policy of isolating Sudan. Since last year, Britain, France, the
Netherlands, and other European Union countries have undertaken a policy
of ''constructive engagement'' with President Omar el-Bashir's government.
That has meant renewed contacts with government officials, funding for a
program to combat the slave trade, and turning a blind eye to United
Nations sanctions imposed in 1996.


The move has sparked a quiet but heated war of words in the
air-conditioned cool of Western diplomatic circles here. ''The Americans
often give the impression that all they want to do is overthrow the
government,'' grumbled one senior European diplomat. American officials
retort that Europe is turning a blind eye to official brutality in the
name of pragmatic politics.


One prickly question lies at the heart of the debate: whether one of the
world's most notorious ''rogue'' regimes is capable of reforming itself
from within.


The regime here, which came to power in a 1989 military coup, has done
much to warrant its unenviable reputation. In its early years Khartoum was
a city of fear, where opposition figures disappeared into notorious
''ghost houses,'' never to reemerge. Osama Bin Laden, the Islamic
fundamentalist suspected of masterminding the 1998 bombings of US
embassies in east Africa, used to reside here.


More recently the government has been accused of terrible abuses in
prosecuting the 18-year-old war against southern-based rebels: razing
villages to clear the way for lucrative oil exploration, fueling the slave
trade, and mercilessly bombing civilian and humanitarian targets in the
rebel-held south.


In Washington, an eclectic coalition of conservative Christians and black
rights activists have turned Sudan into a political hot potato. The most
influential campaigner is the Rev. Franklin Graham, the head of the
evangelical charity Samaritan's Purse and a confidant of President Bush,
who has advocated further military strikes against the Khartoum
government, which he describes as ''pure evil.''


That description infuriates Sudan's government.


''We are mistreated more than any other country in the world,'' said Mahdi
Ibrahim, a presidential adviser recently appointed minister of
information. Ibrahim also objected to frequent portrayal of the civil war
as a religious one that pits northern Muslims against southern Christians.


''Two million southerners are living in Khartoum. Why would they come if
we were persecuting them?'' he asked.


One answer is that they had little choice. Most southerners fled to
Khartoum to escape the fighting and have been forced to live in huge,
squalid camps that ring the city and lack the most basic facilities. Many
complain of being treated as second-class citizens.


But religious intolerance appears to be waning. Islamic sharia law has
been in force in northern Sudan since 1983 but is loosely enforced these
days. A small number of women refuse to wear the veil in public, and
alcohol is tolerated in private homes. The number of judicial amputations
of convicted criminals has also fallen.


Nevertheless, there are still reasons for mistrust. Last Easter a
Christian celebration in central Khartoum was violently broken up by riot
police. Alfred Taban, a southern journalist who edits the independent
Khartoum Monitor newspaper, was there. ''The police threw grenades, one of
which chopped off a medical student's hand. People were 

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie

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This was reported years ago 


Says you. Show us the citation.


on that very liberal news network, ABC.

What makes ABC liberal and what, exactly, do you mean by the term
liberal anyway?

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Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Aleisha Saba

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My old boss used to say I am liberal in meeting the needs of the
people; however, I am conservative in spending their money.

Now that line got him elected for 30 years total.
He always believed in the Golden Rulel - Screw them before they screw
you.   He was a Lawyer, nobody is perfect.

Today a Liberal in Clinton - how many millions of dollars a year does he
make to hog unto himself with his fat pit wife.   Now though, is this a
liberal or just a plain thief with no morals, no scruptles no nothing.

I once ran for public office and I won - and I was a woman...but
then I also ran once and wrote a speech for a joke, that the local
ColumbusTabloid reported picked up and used
I started out with My Loyal Subjects  and I lost this one but
still ended up in the winner's circle in a City Hall Mayor's Office for
4 terms.

So it is said we are judged by every word that proceedeth out of our
mouths.

So Joshua 2, you are still an asshole; June, you are still a fat assked
old bat; and c - I don't know what the hell you are, and frankly my
dear, I do not give a rats ass.

The End.

Saba
Always in the Winner's Circle

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Re: [CTRL] Clintons' hit squad

2001-07-02 Thread Aleisha Saba

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I wonder Prudy, would you be surprised how many people have made this
statement - if I am found dead, I am not a suicide?

People want to know what is wrong with their country - don't blame the
bad actors, find out who writes the script.

For everything is planned and in order - Clinton wanted a lot of
spotlight - so did Hilliary; well, now they have a lot of limelight -
and neither look too happy these days, and both are said now to have
certain sexually transmitted disease - but what would you expect?

Think Clinton maybe killed to keep that secret
but yet he was in the limelight with the world reading portions of his
medical file.

Milosovic in War Crime Court; my question is, why isn't Clinton?

Long Live the Black Hand of Serbia.

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] Worldwide Recession Now Hits Mexico

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 7/2/01 9:25:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The de facto reality is that these Mexicans are returning to Old

Mexico. Soon that part of the US will be absorbed back into

Mexico. Within a few years Mexicans and Mexican - Americans

will be the majority in CA; TX; AZ; and NM. 

Sunny southern California is number 6 when it comes to world wide economies.
Do you really believe that even the brain dead in Washington would allow this
take over to happen?

Another part of the equation is the mexican-americans who have been here for
several generations. They know what life is like under the mexican
government. They have family down there. There is no way they are going to
allow the take over and go back to living in mud huts.

BHoward

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Re: [CTRL] Classic

2001-07-02 Thread Tito Hammond

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In a message dated 7/1/01 1:01:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I believe it, but what would happen if we moved to abolish the government?
 Martial law.  Tienneman Square.  The Holocaust.

We don't need to abolish government, just hold it to the Constitution,
especially the tenth amendment.

  Thankyou for posting this Prudy.  It's obvious that most Americans no
  longer believe in, or are even familiar with, these principles.  The
  public schools (government indoctrination centers) and the mass media
  have done a thorough job of erasing these beliefs from the public mind.
  There is a story about old Ben Franklin emerging from the Constitutional
  Convention after the signing.  A woman called out to him: What form of
  government have you given us?  He answered: A Republicif you can
  keep it.  We haven't.  It's gone.

 Question is...what comes next?  What is the segue going to be?  I wonder if
 we're heading to a time of a major abolishment of the few remaining freedoms
 we have.  I'm thinking we are.

I'm thinking the very same thing.

  It's one of those rock bottom things, kind
 of like alcoholics having to hit rock bottom before they can see the light
 and turn things around.  Probably society will have to hit rock bottom
 before the cat is cornered and it starts hissing and fighting.  It's just a
 matter of compromises.  There is a power in place that wants more and more
 control, so lawyers battle it out in court and a compromise takes place.
 Later there is another compromise as someone, somewhere wants more control,
 so we compromise again, each time giving up a little more freedom.

Somehow, we need to turn that compromising around and head it in the opposite
direction.  How you do that I don't know.  I tend to doubt that it can be
turned.  Perhaps the only way to regain our Republic is to do it the way the
founding fathers did it ... maybe that's why this government is hell bent on
abolishing weapons for common people.

 The sad part is that there is little I can do about it by myself.  There is
 little we can do, even collectively, as members of this mailing list because
 we're really not mainstreamers.  Mainstreamers are so strapped for cash that
 mom and dad have to work, the kids are in daycare and everyone is so
 exhausted by the time they come home that all they can manage to do is plop
 down in front of the TV to absorb a few hours of propaganda before falling
 asleep and repeating the same thing until the weekend when some of the
 people get drunk, some of the people have sex and the rest just lay around
 and recuperate from the hell of the weekdays.

I'm one of those mainstreamers you are talking about.  I joined this list
because a friend of mine signed off after being here four years.  He posted
many interesting articles from this list at work and got a couple dozen of us
interested in politics.
He didn't have any answers, nor did he find any one complete answer on this
list, but he did get many people (at work) interested.  After being here a
couple of weeks now, I can see why he got so frustrated.  Obviously all the
thirty or so people on this list care about what is happening in this country
and to the world, but even these thirty people can't seem to be unified in
their thinking, so how do you get tens of millions of people to unify against
the government/powerful corporations?  There seems to be too much pettiness
rather than serious discussion and no conclusions.  Too much right-left,
rich-poor, straight-gay, black-white-brown-etc, liberal-conservative, gun
rights Vs gun confiscation, and a thousand other means of dividing people so
they won't organize a united front and members of this list are just as
susceptible to these same divisions.  What are the answers?

Tito

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Re: [CTRL] Californians cut power use 12 percent last month

2001-07-02 Thread Jeff Russo

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Well of course they're using less power the consumers were finally hit with
rate increases. They should have never been shielded from the higher retail
costs.

Please don't give Grey Davis credit for people line-drying their clothes.

--- Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 (This is for all you California bashers out there. We are the #1 energy
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Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 7/2/01 10:30:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What makes ABC liberal and what, exactly, do you mean by the term
liberal anyway? 

a. the mouse

b. Brain dead.

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Re: [CTRL] Breast Cancer

2001-07-02 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Breast Cancer


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  I know as fact that MANY things that have been posted to these sites
ARE IN FACT NOT
  HOAXES, e.g., gerbiling,


 You know as a fact that gerbiling is not a hoax? How do you know this,
 personal experience or direct observation?


Personal experience, how else?

Hey, how do you know if your roommate it gay?

Answer: His dick tastes like $h!t.


Seriously though, my wife's oldest friend (from grade school) married an ER
surgeon, and he
has personally surgically removed several Gerbils from the rectums of men
in Houston in the 80's.  He also told us that there had been deaths due to
this act.

Btw, when he first told us this, my wife began to have tears in her eyes.
I mentioned to her that she shouldn't feel so sorry for anyone that does
stuff like that this...that anyone that
did such a stupid think had it coming, you know...the play with fire...
axiom.  She broke out crying and wailed out, I'm not crying for the
person...I'M CRYING FOR THE POOR LITTLE GERBIL!!

LOL!   I $h!t you NOT (no pun intended)!

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[CTRL] Fox News Unbalanced

2001-07-02 Thread Yardbird

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Fox News Channel Said Unbalanced

NEW YORK (AP) - Fox News Channel is anything but fair and balanced when it
comes to political guests, a watchdog group has charged.

Fifty of 56 partisan guests interviewed on Brit Hume's daily news show over a
five-month period earlier this year were Republican, and only six were
Democrats, the liberal group Fairness  Accuracy in Reporting said.

In an admittedly more subjective analysis, FAIR said 65 of the show's 92
total guests were conservative politically.

``Fox portrays itself as fair and balanced, as straight news,'' said Steve
Rendall, a FAIR senior analyst. ``It's media consumer fraud.''

Hume said he would look into the group's findings, and correct it if he
noticed any imbalance.

Executives at the cable news network, which has been gaining on rival CNN in
the ratings over the past few years, have repeatedly denied any right-wing
tilt in news coverage. Its slogan is ``fair and balanced,'' although founder
Roger Ailes has called Fox an alternative to what he regards as a
left-leaning CNN.

FAIR said it purposely chose to look at Hume's news report instead of more
commentary-based shows like ``The O'Reilly Factor.'' Rendall said the
differential between Republican and Democratic, conservative and liberal
guests was ``breathtaking.''

``There's nothing wrong with it,'' he said. ``They can be proud of it. But I
don't think anybody is served by mislabeling a conservative news product as
fair and balanced.''

Hume said FAIR's view of political bias may be different than most. And he
said news factors - FAIR watched during the first few months of a Republican
administration, at a time the GOP also controlled Congress - played a part in
bookings.

``We don't strive for mathematical balance,'' he said. ``We strive for an
overall balanced outlook.''

Hume also said his is not a political debate show, and he often doesn't know
the leanings of his guests.

FAIR also studied Wolf Blitzer's news program on CNN during the same period
and found that of 67 partisan guests, 38 were Republicans and 29 were
Democrats.

FAIR's founder, Jeff Cohen, appears regularly as a commentator on Fox News
Channel. The group said he played no part in the study.

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Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread c.

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let me get this straight bill. you were watching this braindead channel
and are repeating it's braindead opinions as yours? wowee, conservatism is
broad church indeed.

From: Bill Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon
(Independent UK) (fwd)


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  What makes ABC liberal and what, exactly, do you mean by the term
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 a. the mouse

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[CTRL] Happy Independence Day, NOT! (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Yardbird

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:41:01 -0700
From: American Patriot Friends Network [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], APFN Yahoogroups [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Happy Independence Day, NOT!

The 4th of July - Happy Independence Day
http://www.geocities.com/grace24u/4thofjul.html
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Randy L. Dixon - American Patriot http://www.dujaa.com
 Sat Jun 30 10:08:53 2001
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=3692

 Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 There seems to be War of ideals going on (at Moving forward) and perhaps
you can decide for me if I really belong to your group? I will tell you I am
to a racist nor part of any other anti-US Government group. I am but one thing
anti-US Government corruption in any form it takes! I only want an honest
America for my children's futures. My family and I have witnessed much
bloodshed and lies first hand committed by or ignored warnings by corrupt US
Military Leaders and their civilian management teams.

 I'm not sure I have been named as being one of you. Before that I did
not know you existed...at all.

 Please check out my website it is very complicated war against
corruption (lots of case backgound needs to be taken in first) I
uncovered as a US Government employee recently fired for publishing the
truth on my website(s).

 Please check me out,

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Here are some very shocking Essays that were written by Stephen Ames. I
stumbled across them a while back. These Essays made me quite upset after
reading them. The most shocking subjects in these essays has to be that
Social Security numbers are issued by the UN through the IMF and what
Stephen deduced from the bombing of the Murrah Building. He saw something
in the bombing that I have never read or heard anyone talk about. When you
read these Essays you will come to a complete understanding of how
controlled we all are.   Nicole Terry
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The Execution Of Robert Schulz - WHAT CAN ONE MAN/WOMAN DO?

On Sunday, July 1st, Robert Schulz, a leading advocate for lawful government
for over twenty years, will be in Washington, D.C., fasting. He will fast
either until he dies or until the IRS agrees to send experts to a public
forum to refute evidence of researchers from the Tax Honesty Movement as to
their allegations of the unconstitutionality of the federal income tax system,
and its unlawful enforcement. To date, the IRS has abdicated its duty to the
People of this nation by refusing to respond to any of this evidence - all
of which is based on independently-verifiable historical and legal research
and empirical data.

Read about what one powerful newspaper publisher has just said about Robert
Schulz' hunger for the truth - and the need for citizens to immediately
contact the President, their Congressmen, and the media.

CONTACT PRESIDENT BUSH:

1. PHONE THE PRESIDENT. He has a Comment Line, which tells citizens your
call is important to the President, and eventually connects you to a real
person. The phone number is (202) 395-3000.

 2. WRITE THE PRESIDENT. His fax number is: (202) 456-2461. His mailing address
is: The White House, Washington, D.C. 20500.

3 E-MAIL THE PRESIDENT. His e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This
is definitely NOT the best way to reach him, but it should be included as part
of an overall strategy of covering all bases.

CONTACT YOUR U.S. SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES:

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Under Elected Officials, fill in your zip code and all contact information
appears: phone  numbers, fax numbers, mailing addresses, and e-mail links.
Again, do NOT rely solely on e-mail to get your message through.

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The easiest way is to go to the website: http://capwiz.com/washtimes/home/
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the necessary contact information, including for Letters to the Editor.

Following is an editorial from the current issue of New York's Suffolk Life,
a weekly newspaper that is mailed to 576,000 homes every week. The full
article is included here for your convenience, or you may view it in your
browser at this address:
GO HERE FOR THE REST OF THE STORY:
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Bob Schulz eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Do you believe the 

Re: [CTRL] Breast Cancer

2001-07-02 Thread c.

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- Original Message -
From: MIKE SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Breast Cancer



 Seriously though, my wife's oldest friend (from grade school) married an
ER
 surgeon, and he
 has personally surgically removed several Gerbils from the rectums of men
 in Houston in the 80's.  He also told us that there had been deaths due to
 this act.


isn't it all just a case of a myth generating a reality?

but it really isn' all that strange *within context* i.e. it doesn't take
long to find absolutely rotten pictures (not an image quality judgement that
btw) of people's interactions with animals.

 no-one heard about hoovers? or the related gas station compressed air
accidents? i think they were another myth spawning actual incident type
things.

and the rather sweet moral is that the reality never manages the heights of
the myth (and always end with an embaressing trip to the accident and
emergancy dept)

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Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Howard

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 let me get this straight bill. you were watching this braindead channel

and are repeating it's braindead opinions as yours? wowee, conservatism is

broad church indeed. 

You got me on that one.

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Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie

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a. the mouse

b. Brain dead.


Could you please be a little more specific and articulate? What the heck
are you talking about? 

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[CTRL] NYP: RICH INKS DEAL FOR 'PARDON ME'

2001-07-02 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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http://www.nypostonline.com/business/33830.htm

New York Post
July 2, 2001 -- Media Ink

RICH INKS DEAL FOR 'PARDON ME'

By KEITH J. KELLY

PARDONGATE:

Denise Rich has a publisher for her life story.


DENISE Rich - the songwriting socialite and Democratic fund-raiser at the
center of Bill Clinton's Pardongate scandal - has finally found a publisher
for her life story: Capital Publishing, a little-known Washington, D.C.,
house.

There is no advance money involved, leading industry sources to conclude
that she was stymied in her bid to find a big-name outlet to pick up her
memoir.

Instead, Rich's agent, Washington lawyer Ron Goldfarb, says the deal will
be a partnership between author and publisher.

Rich is believed to be ready to spend up to $500,000 to get the book onto
shelves by footing the bill for big-name celebrity bio writer Laura Morton
to collaborate with her.

Morton, who wrote Ringmaster with Jerry Springer, has also collaborated
with Joan Lunden on two health books and was the co-author with singer
Melissa Etheridge on her bestselling autobiography, The Truth Is . . . :
My Life in Love and Music.

Under the deal, the publisher is expected to pay only for the costs of
printing, distribution and some shared marketing costs.

We think this will be the more lucrative way to publish it, said
Goldfarb, who expects a first printing of a least 50,000 copies.

Originally, Simon  Schuster was close to inking her in April to a mid-six
figure contract, but backed away after she began hitting the TV talk-show
circuit.

Publishing maverick Lyle Stuart, head of Barricade Books, also discussed
doing the book - but he and Rich could not come to terms.

We were offered a deal and tentatively accpeted, but we had second
thoughts, said Stuart. We said, 'Who cares what she says.' It's all part
of the passing parade.

Goldfarb disputes that account, however.

Rich's ex-husband, Marc Rich, had been living on the lam in Switzerland
while eluding attempts by the feds to have him extradicted to the U.S.
on tax evasion and other charges.

She lived with him on the lam for a while before splitting and returning to
the U.S. and suffering through an acrimonious divorce.

In the waning days of the Clinton Administration, she says, she put aside
her personal bitterness about her ex and asked Clinton to pardon him for
the sake of their childern. It created a tidal wave of bad publicity for
the Clintons and legal probes of all the players involved in the Pardongate
mess.

Goldfarb says he expects the Rich book to be out in April 2002.

It has the working title, Pardon Me.



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Re: [CTRL] Breast Cancer

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie

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Seriously though, my wife's oldest friend (from grade school) married
an ER surgeon, and he has personally surgically removed several Gerbils
from the rectums of men in Houston in the 80's.  He also told us that
there had been deaths due to this act.


This is third hand hearsay. Where's the proof?

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[CTRL] ICI Pulls Out of Cocaine War

2001-07-02 Thread radman

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ICI Pulls Out of Cocaine War
:

THE OBSERVER
International News
Sunday, 1 July 2001
http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,515255,00.html
Antony Barnett and Solomon Hughes

ICI has pulled out of the controversial US project to spray vast areas of
Colombia with herbicides in an attempt to eradicate its cocaine and heroin
trade.

The British chemicals company's decision, which came after an Observer
investigation revealed its involvement, will be a major embarrassment to
the US government and will dent the credibility of the plan.

ICI does not want its name dragged into such a programme, particularly as
there have been reports of children in Colombia who have inhaled the
chemicals falling ill.

The $1 billion programme, instigated by former President Bill Clinton, will
also be hit by revelations that an individual working for the US company
fumigating the coca and opium plants has been suspected of smuggling heroin
back into the US.

According to an official document from the US Drug Enforcement
Administration obtained by The Observer, on 12 May last year Colombian
police intercepted a parcel sent from Dyncorp's Colombia offices to its
base in Florida. The police found two small bottles of a thick liquid
which, when tested, was found to be laced with heroin worth more than
$100,000.

A Dyncorp spokeswoman said the company had investigated the issue and found
no evidence of wrongdoing.

ICI's decision to refuse to allow its products to be used is likely to
worry the US government. Hospitals in sprayed areas have reported increases
in skin rashes, diarrhoea, stomach aches and respiratory problems. Food
crops have also been destroyed and livestock poisoned.

In January, the US State Department claimed the only chemical used in the
aerial eradication is glyphosate. This pesticide, commonly known as 'Round
Up', is made by the biotech corporation Monsanto.

However, the department was forced to admit it was mixing the glyphosate in
an untested brew with another chemical called Cosmo Flux, a sticky
soap-like substance which helps the pesticides stick to the leaves of
plants. One of its key ingredients is made by ICI.

ICI was forced to admit its products were being used when presented with
documents from The Observer obtained by Colombian scientist Dr Elsa Nivía
of the Pesticides Action Network.

Ed Hammond of the US campaigning group Sunshine Project said: 'Massive
spraying in Colombia has been a hostile act against the environment and
people that live there. The decision by ICI not to have anything to do with
this programme is sensible and will be a wake-up call to Washington.'

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[CTRL] NM: Matalin Said to Be on the Outs With Bush Insiders

2001-07-02 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

For the story behind the story...


Monday, July 2, 2001 1:28 p.m. EDT

Matalin Said to Be on the Outs With Bush Insiders

George W. Bush's tight-lipped band of Texans is sharpening its knives for
Mary Matalin, the controversial counselor to Vice President Dick Cheney,
reports the Washingtonian Online.

In a story headlined Texas Posse Wants Cheney to Give Matalin the Boot,
WO says she has always been suspect among Bush's team and that Dubya had
to be talked into letting her join the White House staff.

Bush also reportedly believes that Matalin let his father down in his 1992
race against Bill Clinton.

Say what?

It was Matalin who first red-flagged a Clinton campaign memo warning that
the slippery Democrat had 19 potential bimbo eruptions waiting to
detonate around the country.

Bush Sr.'s inner circle of country club Republicans thought Matalin's
attention to the issue was tacky and ill-advised, even though she'd
collected more than a few distressed accounts from various women who said
they'd been threatened into silence.

Matalin was nearly fired for her foresight back then, only to be rescued at
the last minute with a very public acknowledgment of gratitude from Bush
Sr. himself. But his 1992 campaign refused to follow up on the info she
unearthed, material that could have stopped Bill Clinton cold at the time
and later contributed to his impeachment.

Other so-called Matalin offenses include complaints that she talks to the
press too much, offering too many anonymous quotes that aren't on
message.

Of course, with Bush's nearly comatose media relations staff, if Matalin
doesn't talk to the press, who will?

WO suggests that the only people who wanted Matalin on Dubya's team in the
first place were Bush Sr. and Cheney's brilliant wife, Lynne, who occupied
the conservative chair on CNN's Crossfire before Matalin came to the
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Re: [CTRL] Breast Cancer

2001-07-02 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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  Seriously though, my wife's oldest friend (from grade school) married
  an ER surgeon, and he has personally surgically removed several Gerbils
  from the rectums of men in Houston in the 80's.  He also told us that
  there had been deaths due to this act.


 This is third hand hearsay. Where's the proof?


It's up in the house where those poor Gerbil's had to removed from.



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[CTRL] FW: Portugal Reforms Its National Drug Policy

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie

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Subject:[CogLib] Portugal Reforms Its National Drug Policy

Portugal Reforms Its National Drug Policy

Starting today, Portugal introduces Europe's most liberal drug policy.
Beginning July 1, 2001, there will be no criminal penalties in that
country to use and possess not only cannabis but also heavy drugs such
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[CTRL] Anti-Globalization Protesters Rally

2001-07-02 Thread radman

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http://www.newsday.com/ap/international/ap592.htm
Anti-Globalization Protesters Rally
by MARSHA HILL
Associated Press Writer

SALZBURG, Austria (AP) -- With helicopters circling overhead, riot police
clad in black, full-body armor faced off against masked protesters Sunday as
European political and business leaders opened an economic summit.

Gathering at the local communist party headquarters, hundreds of protesters
marched to Salzburg's main train station where they held a peaceful
demonstration that coincided with Sunday's opening of the European Economic
Summit.

They then advanced on the conference center, but were turned back at a
police barricade under a rail bridge. Carrying communist hammer-and-sickle
flags, they chanted, ''Our world is not for sale, put the bankers into
jail!''

Police had earlier sealed off the convention hall with rings of barriers
that turned this ancient alpine tourist destination into a fortified maze of
checkpoints.

''As long as they can keep their people in check, we will not take any
action,'' said Salzburg police chief Karl Schweiger. Police spokeswoman
Sonja Fiegel said three people were detained briefly and released Sunday
afternoon.

The extra precautions come after street fighting left 70 people injured last
month at the European Union summit in Goteborg, Sweden, and similar riots
injured 32 people at an anti-World Bank rally last weekend in Barcelona,
Spain.

Local press reports estimated nearly 5,000 police were on duty to make sure
mayhem doesn't erupt in Salzburg, the hometown of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.

The event, held by the World Economic Forum and chaired by billionaire
financier George Soros, runs through Tuesday.

Salzburg Mayor Heinz Schaden, speaking to Austrian television ORF, defended
the bulked-up security saying his city's tourist industry could not afford
to be scarred by scenes of looting, street fighting and stone throwing.

Kelli Smith, a 24-year-old tourist from San Diego, Calif., and a travel
companion were scared off even before the protests began.

''We came down from Munich 24 hours ago and we're getting out of here,''
Smith said. ''I've never seen so many police.''

Protest organizers complained Saturday that authorities were exaggerating
the threat of violence, and the streets were quiet overnight. By midday
Sunday, police had made no arrests, police spokeswoman Sonja Fiegel said.

The European Economic Summit brings together the region's political and
business leaders to discuss such topics as EU enlargement and Russia's
relationship with the rest of Europe.

More than 600 participants from 44 countries were to take part in the
meeting, including 15 heads of state or prime ministers.

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[CTRL] Tampa Installs High-Tech Security Cameras

2001-07-02 Thread radman

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Tampa Installs High-Tech Security Cameras to Scan Crowds for People Wanted
for Arrest
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAXR31BNOC.html

The Associated Press
Published: Jul 1, 2001

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Tampa is using high-tech security cameras to scan the
city's streets for people wanted for crimes, a law enforcement tactic that
some liken to Big Brother.

A computer software program linked to 36 cameras began scanning crowds
Friday in Tampa's nightlife district, Ybor City, matching results against a
database of mug shots of people with outstanding arrest warrants.

European cities and U.S government offices, casinos and banks are already
using the so-called face-printing system, but Tampa is the first American
city to install a permanent system along public streets, The Tampa Tribune
reported Sunday.

A similar system was used at Super Bowl XXXV, which was held in Tampa last
January.

Tampa is really leading the pack here, said Frances Zelazny, a spokeswoman
for Visionics Corp., which produces the FaceIt software.

The software has raised concerns over privacy, ethics and government
intrusion.

This is Big Brother actually implemented, said Jack Walters of the Tampa
chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union. I think this just opens the
door to it being everywhere.

But Tampa Detective Bill Todd says FaceIt is no different than having a
police officer standing on a street holding a mug shot.

At the Super Bowl, a Visionics competitor, Graphco Technologies, wired
cameras around Raymond James Stadium and in Ybor City.

The computer spotted 19 people at the crowded stadium with outstanding
warrants, all for minor offenses. But no arrests were made.

During the Super Bowl, we got overwhelmed, Todd said. That's the other
thing: When you get a match, how quickly can you get to these people?

Business owners have mixed emotions about the new technology.

I don't know if I like it, said Vicki Doble, who owns The Brew Pub. It
may be a bit too much.

Don Barco, owner of King Corona Cigars Bar  Cafe, approves of the cameras
but says they may not be as effective as the city hopes.

Sometimes these high-tech toys, they tend to give a little too much
credence to what they do, he said.

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Re: [CTRL] Californians cut power use 12 percent last month

2001-07-02 Thread Steve

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As an electrical engineer, the following is bullshit. Bill, you have not a clue as to
what you are talking about.

On 2 Jul 01, at 11:32, Bill Howard wrote:

 BTW, you don't save electricity. Electricity is an either or thing. You
 either have it or you don't. If the generators are working, you have
 electricity. If the generators are off line, then you are SOL. Try running
 your dishwasher on batteries.



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Re: [CTRL] Californians cut power use 12 percent last month

2001-07-02 Thread Steve

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On 2 Jul 01, at 11:47, Jeff Russo wrote:

 Please don't give Grey Davis credit for people line-drying their clothes.

Gray Davis has been pushing for conservation as long as there was a crisis. You
don't have a very good idea about what is going on here. Typical.

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[CTRL] Pledge

2001-07-02 Thread Alamaine

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This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows.
To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?23453

Monday, July 2, 2001
The man behind the 'Pledge'
Author of flag salute was utopian socialist
By Joseph Farah
© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com
Millions of Americans will place their hands on their hearts this week and pledge
allegiance to the flag of the United States of America in honor of the nation's
independence.

It's considered an act of patriotism.

In fact, there's a growing movement of people, spearheaded by an otherwise-obscure
Tennessee state legislator, Henri Brooks, to refuse to say the Pledge of Allegiance
because the promise of America has not been fully realized by some.

Yet, the author of the Pledge of Allegiance was hardly some super-patriot.

He was, according to historians, an avowed socialist minister pressured to leave the
Baptist church because of his fiery utopian sermons about a planned economy.

According to John W. Baer, author of The Pledge of Allegiance: A Centennial
History, 1892 - 1992, Francis Bellamy, who lived from 1855 to 1931, wrote the
pledge in 1892. He was the first cousin of Edward Bellamy, author of the American
socialist utopian novels Looking Backward (1888) and Equality (1897). Both
Bellamys shared a passion for promoting their visions of a future not dissimilar
from the vision espoused by Brooks.

Baer says the pledge was first published in the Sept. 8 issue of The Youth's
Companion, a leading family magazine. Its owner and
editor, Daniel Ford, had hired Bellamy in 1891 as his assistant when the preacher
was pressured into leaving his Baptist church in Boston because of his socialist
sermons.
In 1892, Bellamy also served as chairman of a committee of state superintendents of
education in the National Education Association.

As its chairman, he prepared the program for the public schools' quadricentennial
celebration for Columbus Day in 1892, writes Baer. He structured this public
school program around a flag-raising ceremony and a flag salute – his 'Pledge of
Allegiance.'

The original pledge read as follows: I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the
Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for
all.

He reportedly considered placing the word equality in his
pledge, but knew that the state superintendents of education on his committee were
against equality for women and blacks. The word to was added in October 1892.

It was not until 1923 and 1924 at the National Flag Conference, under the leadership
of the American Legion and the Daughters of the American Revolution, that the
pledge's words were changed again. My flag became the Flag of the United States
of America. Bellamy disliked this change, but his protest was ignored, says Baer.

In 1954, Congress, following a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, added the words,
under God, to the pledge. The pledge was now both a patriotic oath and a public
prayer.

Bellamy's granddaughter said at the time that he also would have resented this
second change. Bellamy had been pressured into leaving his church in 1891 because of
his socialist sermons. In his retirement in Florida, he stopped attending church
altogether, reportedly because he disliked the racial bigotry he found there.

Joseph Farah is editor and chief executive officer of WorldNetDaily.com.

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Re: [CTRL] Clintons' hit squad

2001-07-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 For everything is planned and in order - Clinton wanted a lot of
 spotlight - so did Hilliary; well, now they have a lot of limelight -
 and neither look too happy these days, and both are said now to have
 certain sexually transmitted disease - but what would you expect?

 Think Clinton maybe killed to keep that secret
 but yet he was in the limelight with the world reading portions of his
 medical file.

 Milosovic in War Crime Court; my question is, why isn't Clinton? 

The Clintons look pretty happy to me.  If Milosovic is in War Crimes Court
then why not Kissinger?  Clinton's a piker next to him.  In fact Milosovic is
too.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] NM: Matalin Said to Be on the Outs With Bush Insiders

2001-07-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 Matalin Said to Be on the Outs With Bush Insiders

 George W. Bush's tight-lipped band of Texans is sharpening its knives for
 Mary Matalin, the controversial counselor to Vice President Dick Cheney,
 reports the Washingtonian Online.

 In a story headlined Texas Posse Wants Cheney to Give Matalin the Boot,
 WO says she has always been suspect among Bush's team and that Dubya had
 to be talked into letting her join the White House staff. 

My, my, she must not be submitting graciously.  Prudy

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[CTRL] PART 2: ILLUMINATI COVER-UP - PROOF: BIBLE IS FACT!

2001-07-02 Thread Outlawlady

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SPECIAL REPORT!
ILLUMINATI COVER-UP -
PROOF: BIBLE IS FACT!
(Part 2)

What IS mankind's origin? Evolution or Creation? Is there REAL
scientific evidence supporting the
Bible? The Story of Jesus? Could these really be the End Times? Should I
trust My Government? My
Church? The Media? Be forewarned: this report is NOT politically
correct. It scientifically examines
documents that have been hidden away for centuries, exposing the
conspiracy to suppress evidence
PROVING there is a God! Who ARE the Illuminati? WHY would they do
something so monstrous?
Prepare yourself for some major shocks:

   PART 2: UNVEILING A 2000
YEAR OLD INVESTIGATION


Part 2 can be read at:
The Joshua Report
http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/
--
Michael  The Outlawlady
The Joshua Report
http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/
If One Forgets The Past, He Will
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Re: [CTRL] Clintons' hit squad

2001-07-02 Thread Samantha L.

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In a message dated 7/2/01 4:26:44 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 The Clintons look pretty happy to me.  If Milosovic is in War Crimes Court
  then why not Kissinger?  Clinton's a piker next to him.  In fact Milosovic
 is
  too.  Prudy

  Agreed.

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[CTRL] Smart beds, shirts and cars spark privacy concerns

2001-07-02 Thread radman

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From:

GILC Alert
Volume 5, Issue 4
June 26, 2001
Global Internet Liberty Campaign Newsletter.

Smart beds, shirts and cars spark privacy concerns

Various new products may allow you to be monitored wherever you go-whether
you are walking on the street, in your car, or even while you sleep.

VivoMetric's Lifeshirt, for example, contains embedded sensors that
continuously monitor 40 physiological signs of sickness and health while it
is worn.  This data is recorded, sent over the Internet, and logged at the
VivoMetrics Data Center. Other new products on the market raising privacy
concerns include a wrist camera that can take pictures and record up to 100
phone numbers, as well as a GPS Pathfinder watch that can pinpoint your
exact latitude, longitude, altitude, and speed using orbiting satellites. In
addition, a new computerized multimedia bed turns its computer screen
ceiling off when it senses when you've fallen asleep.  It can also detect if
you've stopped breathing and will set off a series of alarms.

Meanwhile, rental car companies have begun to track their customers and, in
at least one case, have started to give out private speeding tickets. In the
US, Acme Rent-a-Car installed a GPS device on one of its cars and monitored
how quickly one of its customers was driving. Acme charged that customer,
James Turner, an extra US $450 for driving at what it deemed an excessively
high speed, and even pointed out the exact location where he had done so.
Turner responded by suing in small claims court, as well as filing a
complaint with his state Department of Consumer Protection.

However, it is not precisely clear if current laws can protect consumers
when any of the aforementioned devices are used for detrimental purposes.
David Sobel from the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC-a GILC
member) pointed out that the challenge right now is to ensure, before these
services and capabilities are widely deployed, that rules are in place.

For more on the Turner rental car tracking case, read Robert Lemos, Car spy
pushes privacy limit, ZDNet News, June 20, 2001 at
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2778752,00.html

For more on LifeShirt and other similar devices, read Larry Hardesty,
Innovation: Clothed in Health, Technology Review, July/August 2001 issue,
at
http://www.technologyreview.com/magazine/jul01/innovation8.asp

For the manufacturer's explanation of how LifeShirt works, click
http://www.vivometrics.com/Products/index.html

For more on smart watches, read Anthony Zurcher, Fast Forward: Wearing the
Net on Your Wrist, Washington Post, May 11, 2001, page E1 at
http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12678-2001May10.html

For more on smart beds, see Sleep With Your Computer? ABC Good Morning
America, Apr. 10, 2001 at
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/GoodMorningAmerica/GMA010409_MITbed.html

Further details on Telematics Net tracking of cars are available from Eric
Young, Car 540819, Where Are You? The Industry Standard, Apr. 23, 2001 at
http://www.thestandard.com/article/0,1902,23635,00.html

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Re: [CTRL] Californians cut power use 12 percent last month

2001-07-02 Thread Jeff Russo

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Gray Davis can push all he wants, people didn't really react until it started
affecting their wallet. Now THAT's typical.

- j

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 On 2 Jul 01, at 11:47, Jeff Russo wrote:

  Please don't give Grey Davis credit for people line-drying their clothes.

 Gray Davis has been pushing for conservation as long as there was a crisis.
 You
 don't have a very good idea about what is going on here. Typical.

 Steve


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[CTRL] Nexus: Human Genome Project Opens the Door to Ethnically Specific Bioweapons

2001-07-02 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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Nexus; July-August 2001, Vol. 8, No. 4
Page 15, Project Censored, Item #16


Human Genome Project Opens the Door to Ethnically Specific Bioweapons


The Human Genome Project may now open the door to the development and use
of genetic weapons targeted at specific ethnic groups. This project is
currently being conducted under the auspices of the US Energy Department,
which also oversees America's nuclear weapons arsenal.

Current estimates of the cost of developing a gene weapon
have been placed at around $50 million - well within the capabilities of
covert government programs.

On November 15, 1998, the London Times reported that Israel claims to have
successfully developed a genetically specific ethnic bullet that targets
Arabs. When an Israeli government spokesman was asked, he did not deny that
they had them.


References:

Roy Blake, Genetic Bullets, Ethnically Specific Bioweapons, Washington
Free Press, Jan/Feb 2000 Greg Bishop Ethnic Weapons for Ethnic Cleansing,
Konformist, March 2000, www.konformist.com


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[CTRL] Fw: Protests target Biological Conference in Germany

2001-07-02 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 1:44 PM
Subject: Protests target Biological Conference in Germany...PRN 7/2/01



 To: Other researchers, perceived victims, persons having related
interests.

 Re: Matrix of UFO Beliefs / continuing issues research  policy
analyses.

 X-Ref: Applied Anomalous Phenomena and Political Psychiatry; add
 historical data about Human Ecology research; mind control;
brainwashing
 and wavies.

 Subject: PR Newswire (7/2/01) advance.

 Hundreds Target Biological Psychiatry Conference
 in Germany: Announces CCHR (Full text below.)

 (Forwarded for informational purposes only, not implying agreement or
 sympathy with assertions or statements by the protest organizers. FYI:
CCHR
 is Scientology.)

 Hundreds Target Biological Psychiatry Conference in Germany: Announces
CCHR

 BERLIN, July 2 /PRNewswire/ -- Over 1,000 people marched through Berlin
today
 in protest against the World Congress of Biological Psychiatry. Organized
by
 the Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR), an international watchdog
 group, protestors blamed biological psychiatry for psychiatrists becoming
 legal drug pushers who generate a multi-billion dollar industry for
 themselves.  Over US $10 billion (11.7 billion ECU) were made in sales of
 antidepressants and anti-psychotic drugs in 1999 alone.  Stimulant use
for
 the bogus disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) has
 soared internationally.  Children now sell their prescription drugs
illegally
 for $5 ($5.8 ECU) per pill to get high.  In France, 3,400 one-year-olds
have
 been prescribed psychotropic drugs.

 Millions more unnecessarily undergo drug treatments, psychosurgery, and
 electroshock-the tools and trade of biological psychiatry.

 The protest included people from France, Hungary, UK, Denmark, Sweden,
 Holland, Germany and America.

 Marla Filidei, Vice President of CCHR International said, Psychiatry
should
 be held accountable for its questionable diagnoses and the devastation
left
 by its treatments.  Psychiatrists create 'diseases'-supposed 'chemical
 imbalances' for which no scientific proof exists-and drugs are developed
to
 'treat' them.  Children are becoming legal drug addicts because of
biological
 psychiatry's false theories.

 At the demonstration, one German mother referred to the psychiatric
hospital
 where her daughter was incarcerated and eventually died, a torture
chamber.
  Other parents testified about their being children ruined by psychiatric
 labeling, drugs and other treatments.  Experts reported that 1,000
persons
 are committed to German psychiatric hospitals every year, many against
their
 will.

 A truck carried child-like mannequins stuffed with psychiatric pills,
 illustrating the drugging of millions of children.  Grim Reapers and
 gravediggers symbolized the tens of thousands of deaths while undergoing
 brutal psychiatric practices.  Large photos showed the cemeteries of
German
 psychiatric institutions.  Protestors carried signs saying:  Psychiatric
 drugs destroy the will to live, Psychiatry Kills and Psychiatry:
Death
 instead of Help.

 Elvira Manthey, the last survivor of the Nazi Brandenburg Havel
institution,
 could testify to this.  She spoke of how she and her 3-year-old sister,
Lisa,
 were declared feeble minded and incarcerated by a Nazi psychiatrist in
1938.
 Lisa died in the gas chambers, aged 4.  Mrs. Manthey called for
psychiatric
 drug use in children to be abolished.

 CCHR was established by the Church of Scientology in 1969.

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 http://tbutton.prnewswire.com/prn/11690X54315572

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[CTRL] O'Reilly: Is the FBI Closing in in Congressman Gary Condit?

2001-07-02 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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[I wonder why has Condit had the need for a body guard for the past ten
years?  --MS]


THE O'REILLY FACTOR
June 29, 2001 Friday

Is the FBI Closing in on Congressman Gary Condit?

GUEST: Jill Ishkanian

BILL O'REILLY, HOST: THE O'REILLY FACTOR from Boston is on. Tonight, is the
FBI closing in on Congressman Gary Condit in the Chandra Levy case? We'll
have the very latest for you.

...

And now for the top story tonight. Is the FBI closing in on Congressman
Gary
Condit? It has been eight weeks since Chandra Levy disappeared. Now reports
say Condit is a ladies man and might well have had an affair with a
24-year-old woman. He still denies that.

Joining us now from Los Angeles is Jill Ishkanian, a reporter for Star
Magazine, who has brought some very interesting information on this case
to
light.

You know, just like the O.J. -- not the O.J. Simpson case, the Jesse
Jackson
case, where the supermarket tabloids, as I said, were way ahead, The
National Enquirer on the Jackson case, and you, The Star, have been way
ahead on this Condit case, what -- what do you know about this thing? What
can you tell us?

JILL ISHKANIAN, STAR MAGAZINE REPORTER: Well, first, let me give credit.
I'm not alone in this. We have a great staff here in L.A. that's just been
working really hard on this, I would say, for the past, you know, probably
eight weeks or seven weeks at least. And Cliff...

O'REILLY: All right, we don't need to go through -- we don't need to go
through all of that. We know you have a good staff. Tell us what you know.

ISHKANIAN: Well, we know that the FBI has questioned Ann Marie Smith, a
stewardess for a major U.S. airline, and asked her about her year-long
affair with Congressman Condit, which coincided exactly with when Condit
was
seeing missing intern Chandra Levy. They have questioned her about, you
know, whether he was seeing her and Chandra Levy, to which she has
responded
that she felt in March of this year he was seeing another woman. She
confronted him about it.

O'REILLY: All right. Let me stop you there. So the FBI has questioned this
airline hostess. Have you talked to her yourself?

ISHKANIAN: No, we have sources close to Ms. Smith who we've spoken to.

O'REILLY: All right, so you've spoken to friends of hers. Did you pay Ms.
Smith or her friends for information?

ISHKANIAN: It's no secret that Star, you know, it pays...

O'REILLY: Yeah, no, I know that. I just want to know in this case...

ISHKANIAN: Yes, we have.

O'REILLY: ... so you gave a little bit of money and they told you what Ms.
Smith told the FBI. We know that the FBI has interviewed her.

So the FBI basically is trying to confirm that Condit did have a sexual
relationship with Chandra Leary. That's No. 1 -- Levy. That's No. 1,
correct?

ISHKANIAN: Correct. That's correct.

O'REILLY: All right. And what other corroborating evidence of that do you
have
aside from the flight attendant's testimony?

ISHKANIAN: We have -- we have sources close to Mr. Condit's bodyguard,
Vince
Flammini, who basically confirmed the exact same thing. The difference with
Mr. Flammini is here's a guy who has spent the last 10 years with Mr.
Condit,
driving him around, acting as his bodyguard, his...

O'REILLY: And what does Mr. Flammini say? What has he told the FBI?

ISHKANIAN: Basically he confirms the affair with Ann Marie Smith. He links
Chandra Levy to Mr. Condit, and he even links him prior to what Mr. Condit
is
telling the FBI.

O'REILLY: What do you mean by links? Does this guy, the bodyguard,
actually
say they were having an affair?

ISHKANIAN: Through sources, he has confirmed that. And that's exactly what
the...

O'REILLY: All right, so you believe that this guy, Flammini, who used to be
the congressman's chauffeur, has told the FBI that yes, indeed, there was a
physical relationship between the two?

ISHKANIAN: That's correct.

'REILLY: All right. Now, the FBI also, you've reported, has a theory in
this case. And what is that theory?

ISHKANIAN: Their theory that they are investigating right now is that Ms.
Levy became despondent after Mr. Condit dumped her. Star has the final
words were goodbye on Mr. Condit's voice mail, which the FBI has told Mr.
Flammini, and that they are investigating the suicide angle, that being
shoved out of her job, her internship, and then being dumped by Mr. Condit
threw her into a depression and that she killed herself. And that's what
they are investigating at this time.

O'REILLY: All right. But if she killed herself, where is the body?

ISHKANIAN: Well, that is not -- I am not investigating where -- that's the
police's job and they're investigating that. And...

O'REILLY: OK. All you know is that...

ISHKANIAN: That's the million-dollar question.

O'REILLY: ... they're looking at -- they're looking. If somebody commits
suicide, there's a body there unless they throw themselves into the Potomac
River, which I guess is possible, but not probable. That's not a real good
way to go.

rMDNM_Now when 

[CTRL] Government Property Seizures out of Control

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Richer

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Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War!

Government Property Seizures out of Control
  Jarret Wollstein
  Saturday, June 30, 2001
Across America, the Drug Enforcement Administration is seizing the luggage,
cash and cars of hapless travelers. Mere possession of a large amount of cash
or a drug dog barking at your luggage is sufficient probable cause for police
to legally seize everything you are carrying under America's new civil
forfeiture laws.

a.. In Albuquerque, N.M., in February 2000, DEA agents detained Sam Thach,
who was traveling on Amtrak from Fullerton, Calif., to Boston, and seized
$147,000 in cash he was carrying. Thach had no drugs. His crime? He had
bought a one-way ticket for cash and didn't give Amtrak his phone number. (1)

a.. The DEA seized $640,000 from Jennifer Leigh Ames while she was traveling
on Amtrak on April 5, 2001. Agents say she looked nervous and had refused
permission to search her luggage. (1)

a.. Former Newark, N.J., policeman Carlos Hernandez discovered police
searching his Amtrak sleeper cabin and demanding to search his luggage on
July 22, 1999. Hernandez's crime? He's Hispanic and paid for his $694 ticket
in cash. (2)

a.. At Houston's Hobby Airport, police stopped 49-year-old Ethel Hylton and
seized her luggage because a drug dog had scratched it. Agents searched her
bags and strip-searched her but found no drugs. They did find $39,110 in cash
from an insurance settlement and her life savings, accumulated through over
20 years of work as a hotel housekeeper and hospital janitor.
Ms. Hylton completely documented where she had gotten the money and was never
charged with a crime. But the police kept her money anyway. Destitute, she
had no way to fight them.

These outrageous seizures are completely legal and have been upheld by the
highest courts in the land, including the U.S. Supreme Court.

The DEA's Web site claims, Property is seized by the DEA only when it is
determined to be a tool for, or the proceeds of, illegal activities such as
drug trafficking, organized crime, or money laundering. But the above
examples show the reality.

Under civil asset forfeiture, your property - not you - is charged with a
crime. Hence the bizarre title of civil forfeiture cases: United States vs.
one 1998 Mercedes Benz, California vs. 1711 Main Street, and so forth.

Once your property is charged with a crime, it can be seized and kept by
police, even if you are never convicted of anything. An appeals court in
Florida even ruled that police can personally receive bounties of 25 percent
of the value of anything they seize from you, such as your car, bank accounts
or home.

There are now more than 400 federal offenses and thousands of state and local
offenses for which your cash, car, bank accounts and home can be seized -
including shoplifting, hiring an illegal alien such as a maid (California),
playing a car stereo too loud (New York), transporting illegal fireworks,
gambling, having illegal drugs on your property, and merely discussing
violating any law (conspiracy), such as underpaying your taxes.

More than $1 billion in property is now seized without trial each year from
innocent Americans, according to the national forfeiture defense organization
FEAR (Forfeiture Endangers American Rights) (3). Seizures range from the
pocket cash of poor street people ... to the cars of men accused of
soliciting prostitutes ... to multimillion-dollar apartment buildings.

Once police seize your property, the burden of proof is on you to prove your
property's innocence. Any suspected illegal actions of your relatives,
guests, friends and employees on or even near your property are sufficient
grounds to seize it.

In Montgomery, Ala., police seized the home of 69-year-old Gussie Mae Gantt
after videotaping police informants buying drugs in her yard. Ms. Gantt had
previously called the police, complaining about drug-dealing in her
neighborhood, and had posted no-trespassing signs. The drug dealers wouldn't
stop - so police set up a drug deal and confiscated her home.

Easy Money for the Government

Once your home, car, and bank accounts are seized under civil asset
forfeiture laws, you can pretty much forget about ever getting them back.
It's you versus the police and courts, who divide up the proceeds from your
property according to formulas such as 80 percent for police, 20 percent for
the court.

If you want to fight seizure of your property, expect to spend at least
$15,000 just to hire a competent asset defense attorney. Also expect the
police to introduce hearsay evidence and to go through trial after trial,
because the normal constitutional protections afforded criminal suspects
don't apply to civil forfeiture of your property. (4)

With all of this easy confiscated money, asset confiscation is now big
business across America. In Volusia County, Fla., police seized more than $8
million worth of cars from motorists stopped for minor 

[CTRL] My Name Is Old Glory

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Richer

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[Unable to display image]
I fly atop the world's tallest buildings.
I stand watch in America's halls of justice.
I fly majestically over institutions of learning.
I stand guard with power in the world.
Look up and see me.

I stand for peace, honor, truth and justice.
I stand for freedom.
I am confident.
I am arrogant.
I am proud.

When I am flown with my fellow banners,
my head is a little higher,
my colors a little truer.

I bow to no one!
I am recognized all over the world.
I am worshipped - I am saluted.
I am loved - I am revered.
I am respected -- and I am feared.

I have fought in every battle of every war for more then 200 years. I was
flown at Valley Forge, Gettysburg, Shiloh and Appomattox. I was there at San
Juan Hill, the trenches of France,
in the Argonne Forest, Anzio, Rome and the beaches of Normandy, Guam.
Okinawa, Korea and KheSan, Saigon, Vietnam know me,
 I was there.

I led my troops, I was dirty, battle worn and tired,
but my soldiers cheered me And I was proud.
I have been burned, torn and trampled on the streets of countries I have
helped set free. It does not hurt,
for I am invincible.

I have been soiled upon, burned, torn and trampled on the streets of my
country. And when it's by those whom I've served in battle -- it hurts.
But I shall overcome -- for I am strong.

I have slipped the bonds of Earth and stood watch over the uncharted
frontiers of space from my vantage point on the moon.
I have borne silent witness to all of America's finest hours. But my finest
hours are yet to come.

When I am torn into strips and used as bandages for my wounded
comrades on the battlefield, When I am flown at half-mast to honor my
soldier, Or when I lie in the trembling arms of a grieving parent at the
grave of their fallen son or daughter, I am proud.

MY NAME IS OLD GLORY LONG MAY I WAVE.


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[CTRL] INQUIRER: Apologizes for its failure to investigate ...regrets the error.

2001-07-02 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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http://www.inq7.net/ent/2001/jul/03/ent_1-1.htm


Radio talk show host Art Bell not behind insulting e-mail

Posted: 8:09 PM (Manila Time) | July 02, 2001

page 1 of 1

NEVADA-BASED radio talk show host Art Bell is in no way connected to a
³malicious and vile e-mail² that insults Filipinos and that has been
attributed to him.

³The charge that Mr. Bell wrote the e-mail is a estatement of fact,² Bell¹s
legal counsel Gerard Fox said in a letter faxed to the INQUIRER from Los
Angeles. ³This statement is false. Even a cursory glance at Mr. Bell¹s
website or an inquiry sent to Mr. Bell or his representatives would have
established the e-mail was a fraudulent Internet posting not written by Art
Bell.²

We did not check out Bell¹s website when we received the e-mail forwarded
by
Alejandro.

When we finally did look at http://www.artbell.com/filipino.html, it turned
out Bell had printed his denial there more than two years ago.

The INQUIRER apologizes for its failure to investigate the source of the
e-mail. It regrets the error.

Fox said a person impersonating Bell wrote the e-mail in December 1998.

Meanwhile, Channel News Asia newscaster Jennifer Alejandro, who is based in
Singapore, forwarded the e-mail to the INQUIRER. It was the subject of this
column last Sunday, July 1.

The e-mail contained offensive statements about Filipinos like, ³Nothing
good has ever come from Philippines and I don¹t believe anything good ever
will,² it said. ³Your country is a disgusting and filthy place. ³That¹s all
you are. Just Filipino. Think about what that means.²

Fox wrote: ³These statements are extremely provocative and likely to incite
violence against their author. Mr. Bell is now concerned about his own
safety and the safety of his family. To publish such statements without the
most exhaustive investigation is unspeakably irresponsible on both a
journalistic and a human level.²

Filipinos from as far as Florida and Norway sent e-mail messages to the
INQUIRER, some hating Bell while others were pointing out the message was
fake.

Fox said ³Mr. Bell has received a barrage of hate-mail, including numerous
threats of violence and death. To protect his reputation and the safety of
his family, Mr. Bell has gone out of his way to inform people he was in no
way connected to this malicious and vile e-mail.²

We also got a letter from Keith Rowland, system administrator of Bell¹s web
site

www.artbell.com, who said the e-mail message did not originate from their
mail server.

³Back in December 1998, there were some racist posting made in several news
groups on the Internet by a person/s impersonating Art Bell,² Rowland
wrote.

³They have used the ID of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

³The letters that show artbel-irc.com as the website are also fake and have
not been written nor sent by Art Bell. Please review all the headers of all
messages that you have received and send your complaints to that domain¹s
sysop. The messages are originating at ucsd.edu (University of California
in San Diego) and the fake Ofrom¹ address was simply typed in.

³It is absurd to think that a public figure and professional radio host
would make such a posting,² Rowland wrote. Inquirer News Service


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[CTRL] AF News 3 Jul 01

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Richer

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0893.  Air Force requests $80.5 billion in 2002 budget

by Staff Sgt. Amy Parr
Air Force Print News

WASHINGTON -- Defense officials recently released their proposed $329.9
billion budget for fiscal 2002, with $80.5 billion requested for Air
Force-specific programs.

The Department of Defense budget, the largest since the mid-1980s, targets
pay, housing expenses, infrastructure, military health care, facilities and
processes.

According to Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) Dov Zakheim, the DOD
budget is broken up as follows:

-- Procurement, $61.6 billion;

-- Operations and maintenance, $125.7 billion;

-- Research and development, $47.4 billion;

-- Military personnel, $82.3 billion; and

-- Other, $10.6 billion.

The budget gives service members a minimum 5-percent pay raise, with
targeted pay raises up to 10 percent for middle grades.  Civilian pay raises
are set for 3.6 percent, with targeted pay raises in critical skills, such
as air traffic controllers.  Out-of-pocket expenses for people living off
base will be reduced to 11.3 percent and, according to Zakheim, will be
eliminated by fiscal 2005.

Quite a bit of the Air Force budget is dedicated to human resources and
recruiting and retention, said Maj. Gen. Larry Northington, Air Force deputy
assistant secretary for budget.  The Air Force is a retention service, and
maintaining those field technicians is awfully important to us.

The Air Force is trying to maintain its experienced people, targeting
midlevel and senior noncommissioned officers, as well as midgrade officers,
said Northington.  We put a substantial amount of money in bonuses and
special pays, maintaining the enlistment bonus to attract folks in and, in
many cases, expanding the reenlistment bonuses to keep them in.

Other highlights of the Air Force budget include:

-- Increased military construction, with 60 percent mission focused, 18
percent support related, and 22 percent dealing with quality-of-life issues;

-- Sustaining current modernization programs, including revitalizing 2,189
military family housing units;

-- Addressing degraded facilities; and

-- Modifying, upgrading and improving reliability of aircraft, such as
updating F-16 avionics and weapons delivery and improving E-3 radar systems.

It is important to defense officials that military people are treated in a
way they deserve to be treated, said Zakheim.  They're the ones out there.
They're the ones risking their lives for us.  Clearly, we can't play any
games or take any risks with morale; it's as simple as that.



0897.  Airman drowns in Alaska

EIELSON AIR FORCE BASE, Alaska (AFPN)  - Airman First Class Nathanial A.
Malli, a weapons-load crew member with the 18th Fighter Squadron here,
drowned June 26 at 9:30 a.m. in the base's Polaris Lake. Malli's body was
recovered at 12:12 p.m. by Alaska State Trooper rescue divers.

Malli was part of a five-person base clean-up team.

The drowning occurred when Malli and another airman on the clean-up team
tried to swim across the lake, which was approximately 100 yards across and
25 feet deep. Reportedly, Malli became tired and could not reach the other
side, while the other airman made it across safely. The supervisor of the
team, who was on shore, tried to rescue Malli, but was unsuccessful.

The supervisor then called 911, and base fire and security forces units
responded immediately.  Alaska state troopers also responded with a
search-and-rescue diving team.

Malli, whose hometown was Crofton, Md., had been at Eielson for one year.
(Courtesy of Pacific Air Forces News Service)



0896.  July issue of Airman magazine available

SAN ANTONIO (AFPN) -- Air Force pararescuemen saving lives above icy waters
in Iceland leads off the July issue of Airman magazine, available online at
http://www.af.mil/news/airman.

Also in this issue:

-- Weekend in a War Zone.  The Department of Defense has partnered with one
of the busiest trauma centers in the United States to give Air Force
doctors, nurses and medics a taste of the modern battlefield, an inner-city
war zone.  Click to http://www.af.mil/news/airman/0701/docs.html.

-- Miracle in Illinois.  Capt. Chad and 2nd Lt. Melissa Heyen were overjoyed
to be having a son. But he was born premature and struggled to survive. The
Heyens hoped and prayed and received an outpouring of support. Click to
http://www.af.mil/news/airman/0701/preem.html.

-- The 'Lifers.'  Think you can work on the job for four decades? Maybe not.
Many airman serve four years and say, Adios Air Force. Some serve their 20
and retire. But those who stick it out for 30, even 40, years have their own
reasons for staying. Click to http://www.af.mil/news/airman/0701/old.html.

-- Bataan Recalled.  More than 75,000 U.S. and Philippine soldiers were
forced to march more than 65 miles through the scorching heat of the
Philippine jungles to prison camps. Fifteen 

Re: [CTRL] Protect Your Children from the Invasion of the Lesbians and Homosexual

2001-07-02 Thread AGENT PROVOCATEUR

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Greetings!  I am completely new to all of this...On
the present subject, I can only say that if you are
unhappy now...just wait until they move to the next
stage...legitimizing sex between children and adults
and between people and animals...ya'll are seeing only
the tip of the iceberg at this point.  Of course the
lying homosexuals will vehemently deny...but just hang
around long enough and see the next small steps in a
new direction to come down the road..the Americans
never have been able to learn the lesson of the
slippery slope...but fear not...God took care of this
type of situation in the past and you CAN bet
everything you have that He IS going to step in and
handle things again...this time for the last time.

agentprovocateurus   ;oD

--- Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

 So here are two interesting items; first the usual
 propaganda put out by
 UN for they want money and the money will be used to
 promote sodomy in
 the schools.

 Some years back I watched a
 homosexual/lesbianelement invate our schools
 as bus drivers, and into the NEAsaw one
 homosexual get his hands on
 3 little kids about the same age as the kids this
 Paula Poundstone got
 her lewd hands on - for the charges against he are
 lews and lascivicious
 behavior - doe she think this is funny.   One of her
 pals Rosie
 O'Donnell is oh now she saved a child her adopted
 child from a man
 arrested for lewd behavior who has worked for her
 for 20 yers and she
 just found out?

 Is this to take the heat off of her - she labeled
 herself a hero for so
 doing.

 Garbage is as garbage does - leave our children
 alone.People are
 finally realizing there is something terribly wrong
 in this country when
 two sick perverted twisted pigs like Paula
 Poundstone and Rosie
 O'Donnell can get their hands on innocent children?

 Hey Let Our People Go - sounds familiar doesn't it
 for Gay Pride has
 picked up the standard dropped by Jesse Jackson and
 Al Shapton?

 Maybe this author of the following sees what I saw?
 Let Our
 Children Go or the Wrath of God will fall upon these
 sick perverted
 twisted people.The Plague of Aids is Upon Them.



 Saba

 Rense.com
 Let Our Children Go!
 By Linda Harvey

 Exclusive WorldNetDaily Commentary

 © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com
 As the mother of two teenagers, my heart sank
 recently when I learned of
 another new twist in the seemingly infinite ways to
 assault our kids.
 Some schools now post pink triangles on classrooms
 they have designated
 as safe for homosexual-sex questions. Students who
 ask questions in
 these safe places are then linked up with gay
 activist groups outside
 the school. And this happens without any call to the
 student's home, to
 warn a parent their precious child is about to jump
 off a cliff.

 So, when I read that the most powerful lobbying
 machine in our country,
 the National Education Association, will meet next
 week in Los Angeles
 and vote on a sweeping set of measures to fast-track
 homosexuality even
 more swiftly into our nation's schools, I feel at
 the end of my rope.
 Isn't there anyone who has any sense anymore? Where
 are teachers with
 courage, principle and honor? Where are school board
 members who can see
 where this is leading? Surely, someone will listen
 and understand why I
 plead with the NEA and all the other purveyors of
 depravity, to let our
 children go.

 For too long, those we entrust with our childrens'
 minds have held that
 trust as a secondary priority. The first is
 themselves. A teachers'
 union? Why? In America of 2001, where are those
 terrible working
 conditions that require this? When I was a teacher
 in the '70s, the
 principal stopped by my class after school one day -
 I hadn't yet joined
 the Ohio Education Association, and he gently but
 firmly urged me to do
 so. The whole idea offended me yet, I must confess,
 I relented. The
 pressure was subtle, but clear: This is what you do
 if you want to be a
 team player.

 With a little more maturity, I now define success
 differently. I wish I
 had been braver then. Now, the stakes are far
 higher. How can people who
 care about children pay money to a group that is so
 eager to corrupt
 them, to steal their innocence? And all the while
 they use nicey-nice
 words like diversity, support, and that most
 manipulative of terms,
 safety. I now have my own idea of safety. Our
 youth and our
 communities will be safer if you, NEA, let our
 children go.

 Whole days are devoted to honoring homosexual sex
 practices, but in some
 schools, Mother's Day is being shelved. Students in
 classrooms all
 across this country are fed up with the endless,
 stupid promotion of
 obviously unnatural and gross acts, but those who
 speak out are often
 intimidated into silence by an NEA member. Kids get
 tired of public
 shame and ridicule just like anyone else. A
 teacher's hostility is
 perfectly acceptable in such cases, though, 

[CTRL] Chamish: Confirmation (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread MIKE SPITZER

-Caveat Lector-

- Original Message -
From: Barry Chamish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 12:59 AM
Subject: confirmation


DREADFUL CONFIRMATION
by Barry Chamish



One by one, the information being sent out by this writer in the past month
is being validated. And it is now abundantly clear that the information
received from two renegade Shabak agents relayed worldwide in the article
called, They're Talking, was mostly, right on the money.
Let's begin with the claim that the CIA, PLO and Shabak are running death
squads aimed at removing Jews from their homes in Judea, Samaria and Gaza.
Confirmation came from Defence Minister Binyamin Ben Eliezer.

***

Rosh HaShanah War/News: DEFENSE MINISTER BEN-ELIEZER ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THE
C.I.A TRAINED P.L.O. DEATH SQUADS WITH ISRAELI APPROVAL


copyright (c) 2001 by the Root  Branch Information Services Root  Branch
Association, Ltd.


YERUSHALIYIM, D.C. (David's Capital), Yom Rishon (Day One -- Sunday), 10
Tammuz, 5761 (Gregorian Date: July 1, 2001) (Hijri Date: 9 Rabi Thani,
1422), Root  Branch: Israeli Defense Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer
acknowledged today that the United States Central Intelligence Agency
(C.I.A.) trained P.L.O. death squads in the United States with the approval
of the Barak Government and Mr. Shimon Peres, currently Foreign Minister in
the Sharon Government and formerly Minister of Regional Cooperation in the
Barak Government.

Defense Minister Ben-Eliezer made his remarks during a press conference
today at the Inbal Hotel (formerly the Laromme Hotel) in Jerusalem,
organized by the Foreign Press Association in Israel (F.P.A.).

Mr. Ben-Eliezer was responding to a question posed by F.P.A. member Mr.
Aryeh Gallin of the Root  Branch Information Services.

Mr. Ben-Eliezer did not deny that any of the alleged facts cited in Mr.
Gallin's question were true.

Mr. Ben-Eliezer simply said that the then Israeli Government thought the
C.I.A. trained P.L.O. death squads would 'behave themselves'.

GALLIN QUESTION (verbatim):

While Netanyahu was prime minister, C.I.A. Chief John Deutsch appointed
George Tenet to serve as C.I.A. liaison between Israel and the P.L.O.

While Barak was prime minister, then Regional Cooperation Minister Shimon
Peres agreed to Tenet's request that the P.L.O. send 40 quote unquote
policemen for advanced C.I.A. sniper, marksmanship and advanced weapons
training in Virginia.

Mr. Defense Minister, are not those C.I.A. trained P.L.O. squads the very
ones today inflicting such terrible casualties on so-called Arab
collaborators, the I.D.F., and Jews in Gilo and especially in Judea,
Samaria and Gaza?

And, Mr. Defense Minister, why was the C.I.A. request to train these P.L.O.
squads routed through and approved by a Regional Cooperation Minister, Mr.
Shimon Peres?


BEN-ELIEZER ANSWER (summary*):

'It's an easy question. We thought that they would behave themselves'.


*The Root  Branch Information Services will publish the verbatim text of
Mr. Ben-Eliezer's answer later today.

***

Then there was the suggestion that the Versailles Ballroom collapse was
sabotage. Two days ago the government announced that it would not
investigate the disaster. The asinine compromise was a general commission
of inquiry to investigate local building practices. YES, the government IS
covering up Versailles.
Now speaking of Versailles, we hop over to the claim that Shimon Peres was
in France two weeks before the Rabin murder promising the French the total
capitulation of Israel to Europe in return for approving the assassination
of Rabin. Amnon Lord, writing in Makor Rishon last week, reported that
Peres gave a speech at the Versailles Palace in Paris, to a gathering of
Technion professors and academics, about two weeks before the murder,
during which he shocked the assembled by not mentioning Israel even once.
Finally, Peres is placed in France just when I said he was there plotting
Rabin's death.
The recently reported CFR plan to promote Knesset speaker Avraham Burg as
the next Labor leader received a boost when the party's front runner,
Shlomo Ben Ami, announced his decision to drop out of the upcoming race,
thus leaving the way clear for the Burg takeover. To get a taste of what's
coming, a faithful Toronto correspondent sent an article in which Burg
insists that the Temple Mount is located elsewhere, so there is no need to
object to PLO sovereignty over the present site.
Another informant reminded me of a frightening fact that I knew but had
refused to report because it is just too conspiratorial. Twenty minutes
before the bridge collapsed at the previous Maccabiah Games, causing dozens
of casualties to the Australian contingent, a Shabak Jeep drove over the
same bridge and a film of the event was shown on Israel television news. I
had long considered the possibility that the bridge, like the Versailles
Ballroom, was collapsed as part of an overall demoralization plan, in this
case alienating Israel 

[CTRL] Why Japan did not invade Hawaii....

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Richer

-Caveat Lector-

  This really says it all when discussing gun control!


In 1960, Robert Menard was a Commander aboard the USS Constellation
  when he was part of a meeting between United States Navy personnel and
  their counterparts in the Japanese Defense Forces.

Fifteen years had passed since VJ day, most of those at the meeting
were WWII veterans, and men who had fought each other to the death
  at sea were now comrades in battle who could confide in one another.

Someone at the table asked a Japanese admiral why, with the Pacific
  Fleet devastated at Pearl Harbor and the mainland US forces in what Japan
  had to know was a pathetic state of unreadiness, Japan had not simply
  invaded the West Coast.

Commander Menard would never forget the crafty look on the Japanese
commander's face as he frankly answered the question.

You are right, he told the Americans.  We did indeed know much
  about your preparedness. We knew that probably every second home in your
  country contained firearms. We knew that your country actually had state
  championships for private citizens shooting military rifles. We were not
fools to
  set foot in such quicksand.

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Re: [CTRL] Protect Your Children from the Invasion of the Lesbians and Homosexual

2001-07-02 Thread AGENT PROVOCATEUR

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HA HA HA HA HA ...but a bit over the top on the letter
of apology thing, don't you think??

agentprovocateurus

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 Look! People abuse children, always have and always
 will. What we as a
 society need to do is shoot them as they try to
 escape. If we find out that
 they were innocent, there won't be too many of
 those, we can send them a
 letter of apology.
 And as an added bonus, this will cut down on the
 number of repeat offenders.

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Re: [CTRL] Worldwide Recession Now Hits Mexico

2001-07-02 Thread AGENT PROVOCATEUR

-Caveat Lector-

And the kings of the earth, who have committed
fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall
bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see
the smoke of her burning, 10 Standing afar off for the
fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great
city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy
judgment come. 11 And the merchants of the earth shall
weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their
merchandise any more: 12 The merchandise of gold, and
silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine
linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all
thyine F29 wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and
all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of
brass, and iron, and marble, 13 And cinnamon, and
odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and
oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep,
and horses, and chariots, and slaves, F30 and souls of
men. 14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are
departed from thee, and all things which were dainty
and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find
them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things,
which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for
the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16 And
saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed
in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked
with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! 17 For in
one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every
shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors,
and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, 18 And
cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying,
What city is like unto this great city! 19 And they
cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and
wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein
were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason
of her costliness! for in one hour is she made
desolate.

hmmm

agentprovocateurus  ;oD
  
--- flw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

 Let see.
 Japan; Germany (Europe); South America (Argentina,
 Venz. Mexcio)
 all going bad...but the good ole USA to stay
 healthy?

 I don't think so.

 The bubble is slowly bursting.
 flw

 Downturn in Economy Deepens Across Mexico
 Layoffs hit virtually all sectors and imperil social
 reforms promised by Fox

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/updates2/lat_mexecon010701.htm

 By CHRIS KRAUL, Times Staff Writer

 Mexican yam wholesaler Mayer Zaga has cut prices on
 his products. This is a crisis, whether we
 understand it
 or not, he says.
 CHRIS KRAUL / Los Angeles Times

  SAN ANDRES OCOTLAN, Mexico--From farms and
 automotive plants on the outskirts of Mexico City to
 the
 industrial heartland of Monterrey and the wineries
 and electronics firms in Tijuana and Guadalajara,
 signs are
 that this nation's recession is becoming more
 entrenched.
  Every day, another big company or industry is
 hit by layoffs, the most recent being the pivotal
 steel
 industry, where hundreds last week received pink
 slips. Even the maquiladoras--the factories on the
 border
 with the U.S. that have been jewels of Mexican
 economic development--are feeling pain as never
 before.
  Tenant farmer or textile magnate, there is no
 shortage of victims who could be overwhelmed by the
 spreading recession. The hard times increase fears
 of social unrest as well as the prospect of illegal
 immigration, which could lead to more people dying
 in risky border crossings. With the U.S. facing its
 own
 economic troubles, more economic refugees won't be
 greeted with open arms.
  The most prominent victim may be President
 Vicente Fox, whose ambitious plans to transform
 Mexican
 society require a good economy. A reform candidate
 whose election last year ended the 71-year rule of
 the
 Institutional Revolutionary Party, Fox swept to
 power by promising to boost prosperity, add 1.3
 million new
 jobs in his first year and create more social
 programs to address grinding poverty and inequality.
  Although still enormously popular, Fox has
 reason to be concerned. A failure to deliver new
 jobs and
 prosperity will weaken him politically and hinder
 efforts to carry out a bold slate of reforms ranging
 from
 boosting the rights of indigenous peoples to
 overhauling the judicial and tax systems.
  The worsening times have farmers such as
 Rodolfo Hernandez in a bind. Corn, carrot and lima
 bean prices
 are sinking while the costs of diesel fuel and
 fertilizer are rising. All he expects to harvest
 from his
 25-acre farm here 40 miles southwest of Mexico City
 are headaches and big losses.
  In the past, at least there was movement,
 equilibrium. Now, there are no buyers at all, said
 Hernandez,
 40.
  Times have become so brutal, he said, that his
 younger brother Antonio, an out-of-work tailor,
 illegally
 emigrated to Washington state, where he quickly
 landed a job in construction. Rodolfo said he may
 follow if
 things don't turn around soon. Antonio knows 

[CTRL] Fwd: [FAIR-L] The Most Biased Name in News: Fox News Channel's extraordinary ...

2001-07-02 Thread William Shannon





 FAIR-L
Fairness  Accuracy in Reporting
   Media analysis, critiques and news reports





SPECIAL FAIR REPORT--

THE MOST BIASED NAME IN NEWS:
Fox News Channel's extraordinary right-wing tilt

July 2, 2001

Fox News Channel wraps itself in slogans of journalistic objectivity like
Fair and balanced and We report, you decide, but a new FAIR report finds
a dramatic right-wing tilt in the network's news.

The full report is in three parts, all available online:

--The Most Biased Name in News: Fox News Channel's extraordinary right-wing
tilt
--Fox's Slanted Sources: Conservatives, Republicans far outnumber others
--Bill O'Reilly's Sheer O'Reillyness: Don't call him conservative-- but he
is
http://www.fair.org/reports/fox.html

In a study of interviewees on the network's signature political news show,
Special Report with Brit Hume, FAIR found that of 56 partisan guests in a
five month period, 50 were Republicans and six were Democrats. That's 89
percent Republican, a greater than 8 to 1 imbalance.

But Special Report-- originally created as a daily hour-long update on the
1998 Clinton sex scandals-- doesn't just skew Republican, it skews
conservative: During the course of the study, 65 of the show's total of 92
guests (71 percent) were avowed conservatives. Conservatives outnumbered all
other points of view, including non-political guests, by a factor of more
than 2 to 1.

What's more, the show featured only eight female guests and six people of
color, making for a guest list that was 91 percent male and 93 percent
white.

The darling of conservative politicos, Fox News Channel's entire editorial
philosophy revolves around the idea that the network is an antidote to
supposedly liberal mainstream media like CNN. But the facts just don't
back Fox up. As a comparison to Special Report, FAIR studied interviewees on
CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports over the same period, and found that of 67
partisan guests, 38 were Republicans and 29 Democrats-- 57 percent
Republican versus Special Report's 89 percent. About 32 percent of Wolf
Blitzer's total guests were avowed conservatives, versus 65 percent on
Special Report.

Fox often has trouble keeping the partisanship of its main news
personalities in check. In 1996, for instance, Fox anchor Tony Snow endorsed
Bob Dole for president in a Republican National Committee magazine. At the
2000 Republican Convention, Snow-- ostensibly a journalist covering a news
event-- gave a speech before to Republican Youth Caucus. Trent Lott followed
up with a cheer of How about Tony Snow in 2008?

The on-air bias is often just as pronounced.  Liberals come in for regular
bashing on the show of Fox's star performer, Bill O'Reilly. Since 1998, The
O'Reilly Factor has run an astounding 56 segments about Jesse Jackson-- that
means that one out of every 12 episodes of the show featured a Jackson
segment, many with themes like How personal are African-Americans taking
the moral failures of Reverend Jesse Jackson?

During the 2000 election, O'Reilly wondered whether Al Gore was running on
a quasi-socialistic platform with work and production being supervised by
the government. After the election, O'Reilly's softball treatment of the
new administration was a marked contrast to his scrutiny of Clinton--
President Bush ran on the slogan 'reformer with results,' said O'Reilly.
That sounds good to me. So much for the No spin zone.


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[CTRL] $$$ The Key To Yugoslavia's Decision

2001-07-02 Thread William Shannon
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/europe/story.jsp?story=81021



How America forced Yugoslavia to trade in its most lucrative asset

By Andrew Buncombe and Vesna Peric Zimonjic

30 June 2001

Justice, honesty, the rule of law and order and, of course, lots of money.

The decision to hand over Slobodan Milosevic to be tried for war crimes had 
more to do with the prospect of massive aid payments than it did with an 
overwhelming desire among his countrymen to deal with the former dictator.

That much became clear yesterday at a donors' conference in Brussels where 44 
nations donated a total of $1.28bn (£0.9bn) to help to rebuild Yugoslavia 
after 13 years of Mr Milosevic's rule.

"We did it. Now it's your turn," Yugoslavia's Deputy Prime Minister, Miroljub 
Labus, told the conference in a clear reference to the handover of Mr 
Milosevic. "We promised a clear cut-off from the past. We are on that way."

The European Commission pledged $445m (£315m) in addition to pledges from 
member states and the United States' $182m (£129m). The World Bank promised 
$150 (£106m) and Switzerland $22m (£16m).

At a meeting in Washington last month, the US Secretary of State, Colin 
Powell, told the Yugoslav President, Vojislav Kostunica, that America would 
boycott yesterday's conference if Mr Milosevic was not handed over. Mr Powell 
spoke twice in the past week with the Serbian Prime Minister, Zoran Djindjic, 
reiterating that message, and Mr Djindjic spoke with William Montgomery, the 
US ambassador, on Tuesday.

The final decision to hand over Mr Milosevic to the international body was 
not, however, made until late on Wednesday evening at a meeting of the DOS – 
the government alliance. The only group to abstain was the Democratic Party 
of Serbia, led by Mr Kostunica, who was opposed to the handover. Just hours 
after the meeting, Mr Powell announced that America would attend the donors' 
meeting.

Serbia had little option but to do whatever was needed to ensure the promise 
of aid. After 13 years of Mr Milosevic's economic mismanagement, Nato 
sanctions and the 78-day bombing campaign of 1999, the country currently 
suffers from an inflation rate of 150 per cent. Unemployment stands at about 
50 per cent, while foreign debt is estimated to be $12bn (£8.5bn). That 
Serbia was "economically blackmailed" was not lost on observers.

Aleksa Djilas, a Belgrade historian, told The New York Times: "We sold him 
for money and we won't really get very much money for it. The US is the 
natural leader of the world, but how [does it] lead? This just feeds the 
worst American instincts, reinforcing this bullying mentality."

Johannes Linn, the World Bank president, said the organisation would give 
priority to helping Yugoslavia balance its budget, rebuild energy networks 
and clear the Danube of wreckage left over by the Nato bombing, as well as 
focusing on reconstruction and social programmes. 





Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [FAIR-L] The Most Biased Name in News: Fox News Channel's extraordinary ...

2001-07-02 Thread AGENT PROVOCATEUR

-Caveat Lector-

FAIR??!!??  Since WHEN has the left wing, Godless
media EVER been FAIR...not to mention even
microscopically HONEST???... so there is ONE channel
that expresses opinions and biases on the other side
of the coin and THAT is worthy of a big fuss?!?!...I
think not  ;oD


--- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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  FAIR-L
 Fairness  Accuracy in Reporting
Media analysis, critiques and news
 reports





 SPECIAL FAIR REPORT--

 THE MOST BIASED NAME IN NEWS:
 Fox News Channel's extraordinary right-wing tilt

 July 2, 2001

 Fox News Channel wraps itself in slogans of
 journalistic objectivity like
 Fair and balanced and We report, you decide, but
 a new FAIR report finds
 a dramatic right-wing tilt in the network's news.

 The full report is in three parts, all available
 online:

 --The Most Biased Name in News: Fox News Channel's
 extraordinary right-wing
 tilt
 --Fox's Slanted Sources: Conservatives, Republicans
 far outnumber others
 --Bill O'Reilly's Sheer O'Reillyness: Don't call him
 conservative-- but he
 is
 http://www.fair.org/reports/fox.html

 In a study of interviewees on the network's
 signature political news show,
 Special Report with Brit Hume, FAIR found that of 56
 partisan guests in a
 five month period, 50 were Republicans and six were
 Democrats. That's 89
 percent Republican, a greater than 8 to 1 imbalance.

 But Special Report-- originally created as a daily
 hour-long update on the
 1998 Clinton sex scandals-- doesn't just skew
 Republican, it skews
 conservative: During the course of the study, 65 of
 the show's total of 92
 guests (71 percent) were avowed conservatives.
 Conservatives outnumbered all
 other points of view, including non-political
 guests, by a factor of more
 than 2 to 1.

 What's more, the show featured only eight female
 guests and six people of
 color, making for a guest list that was 91 percent
 male and 93 percent
 white.

 The darling of conservative politicos, Fox News
 Channel's entire editorial
 philosophy revolves around the idea that the network
 is an antidote to
 supposedly liberal mainstream media like CNN. But
 the facts just don't
 back Fox up. As a comparison to Special Report, FAIR
 studied interviewees on
 CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports over the same period, and
 found that of 67
 partisan guests, 38 were Republicans and 29
 Democrats-- 57 percent
 Republican versus Special Report's 89 percent. About
 32 percent of Wolf
 Blitzer's total guests were avowed conservatives,
 versus 65 percent on
 Special Report.

 Fox often has trouble keeping the partisanship of
 its main news
 personalities in check. In 1996, for instance, Fox
 anchor Tony Snow endorsed
 Bob Dole for president in a Republican National
 Committee magazine. At the
 2000 Republican Convention, Snow-- ostensibly a
 journalist covering a news
 event-- gave a speech before to Republican Youth
 Caucus. Trent Lott followed
 up with a cheer of How about Tony Snow in 2008?

 The on-air bias is often just as pronounced.
 Liberals come in for regular
 bashing on the show of Fox's star performer, Bill
 O'Reilly. Since 1998, The
 O'Reilly Factor has run an astounding 56 segments
 about Jesse Jackson-- that
 means that one out of every 12 episodes of the show
 featured a Jackson
 segment, many with themes like How personal are
 African-Americans taking
 the moral failures of Reverend Jesse Jackson?

 During the 2000 election, O'Reilly wondered whether
 Al Gore was running on
 a quasi-socialistic platform with work and
 production being supervised by
 the government. After the election, O'Reilly's
 softball treatment of the
 new administration was a marked contrast to his
 scrutiny of Clinton--
 President Bush ran on the slogan 'reformer with
 results,' said O'Reilly.
 That sounds good to me. So much for the No spin
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[CTRL] Three Cheers For ICI

2001-07-02 Thread William Shannon
http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,515255,00.html



ICI pulls out of cocaine war 

Antony Barnett and Solomon Hughes
Sunday July 1, 2001
 

ICI has pulled out of the controversial US project to spray vast areas of 
Colombia with herbicides in an attempt to eradicate its cocaine and heroin 
trade. 

The British chemicals company's decision, which came after an Observer 
investigation revealed its involvement, will be a major embarrassment to the 
US government and will dent the credibility of the plan. 

ICI does not want its name dragged into such a programme, particularly as 
there have been reports of children in Colombia who have inhaled the 
chemicals falling ill. 

The $1 billion programme, instigated by former President Bill Clinton, will 
also be hit by revelations that an individual working for the US company 
fumigating the coca and opium plants has been suspected of smuggling heroin 
back into the US. 

According to an official document from the US Drug Enforcement Administration 
obtained by The Observer, on 12 May last year Colombian police intercepted a 
parcel sent from Dyncorp's Colombia offices to its base in Florida. The 
police found two small bottles of a thick liquid which, when tested, was 
found to be laced with heroin worth more than $100,000. 

A Dyncorp spokeswoman said the company had investigated the issue and found 
no evidence of wrongdoing. 

ICI's decision to refuse to allow its products to be used is likely to worry 
the US government. Hospitals in sprayed areas have reported increases in skin 
rashes, diarrhoea, stomach aches and respiratory problems. Food crops have 
also been destroyed and livestock poisoned. 

In January, the US State Department claimed the only chemical used in the 
aerial eradication is glyphosate. This pesticide, commonly known as 'Round 
Up', is made by the biotech corporation Monsanto. 

However, the department was forced to admit it was mixing the glyphosate in 
an untested brew with another chemical called Cosmo Flux, a sticky soap-like 
substance which helps the pesticides stick to the leaves of plants. One of 
its key ingredients is made by ICI. 

ICI was forced to admit its products were being used when presented with 
documents from The Observer obtained by Colombian scientist Dr Elsa Nivía of 
the Pesticides Action Network. 

Ed Hammond of the US campaigning group Sunshine Project said: 'Massive 
spraying in Colombia has been a hostile act against the environment and 
people that live there. The decision by ICI not to have anything to do with 
this programme is sensible and will be a wake-up call to Washington.'





Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [FAIR-L] The Most Biased Name in News: Fox News Channel's ...

2001-07-02 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 7/2/01 6:46:32 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


so there is ONE channel
that expresses opinions and biases on the other side
of the coin and THAT is worthy of a big fuss?!?!...

Well at least you admit their obvious bias.

Bill.


[CTRL] The Pentagon's Laser Crowd Controller

2001-07-02 Thread William Shannon
http://www.spotlight.org/06_29_01/Pentagon_Unveils_Laser_As__Cro/pentagon_unve

ils_laser_as__cro.html



Pentagon Unveils Laser As 'Crowd Controller'

The Pentagon is hyping a new "non-lethal" energy beam weapon for crowd
control-that means you.

Exclusive to The SPOTLIGHT

By Mike Blair

The Pentagon has developed a new "non-lethal" beam projection device to
control crowds that utilizes "millimeter-wave electromagnetic energy,"
according to Defense Department sources.

The device, which the Pentagon expects will be in wide use with the U.S.
military by 2009, employs a directed energy beam that inflicts a painful
brief burning sensation. It heats up the surface of a victim's skin and
within seconds can create pain similar to touching a hot light bulb.

"It is the kind of pain you would feel if you were being burned," Rich
Garcia, a spokesman for the Air Force Research Laboratory at Kirkland Air
Force base, New Mexico, explained. "It's just not intense enough to cause any
damage."
However, Human Rights Watch and other such monitoring groups are asking
questions about potential dangers of the new device.

"What, as an example, will happen to children in the crowds?" one critic of
the Pentagon's plan to employ the weapon asked. "What about pregnant women
and the elderly?"

The beam penetrates to a depth of one-sixty-fourth of an inch below the
surface of a victim's skin and creates the burning sensation.

"When it penetrates in, it activates pain sensors and you feel a lot of
pain," the Air Force's Garcia explained. "But there's no damage. It truly is
a non-lethal device."

According to Garcia the Air Force has "tested 72 human beings that have had
over 6,500 exposures."

Currently, the Air Force has plans to test the device on goats and humans at
Kirkland.

Already, the Marine Corps intends to mount the electromagnetic energy wea
pons on its Humvees, all terrain vehicles.

Later, according to Pentagon sources, the device may be used on aircraft and
ships.

The Pentagon concedes that the new projected beam device is not just intended
for crowd control in Third World countries where the U.S. military may become
involved in so-called "peacekeeping" missions. It could be used for crowd
control purposes that the military may be called upon to maintain in the
United States.

With the increased blurring of military and special law enforcement units,
such as Special Weapons and Tactics units, as a result of the nation's war on
drugs, the new weapon could come into police hands to be used in controlling
rallies.
In other words, the electromagnetic beam devices could have been used last
year in Seattle to control crowds demonstrating against supposed "free trade"
had it been available.





[CTRL] Flight 103- Flight From The Truth

2001-07-02 Thread William Shannon
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5260/guardian270601.html



Flight from the truth

The Lockerbie trial was meant to end the saga of Pan Am flight 103. But it
didn't take into account the wads of US dollars, or the heroin, or the
Hizbullah T-shirt found in the wreckage. As the man convicted of the bombing
prepares to appeal, John Ashton and Ian Ferguson argue that there has been a
top-level cover-up


Wednesday June 27, 2001


 There are two versions of the Lockerbie story. One - told at the trial - is
neat, clearcut and, ultimately, reassuring. The other, which we believe is
the true story, is far less comfortable. In the official version it was bad
guys against good: Muammar Gadafy and his recently convicted henchman Abdel
Baset al-Megrahi versus the heroic international investigation led by the
tiny Dumfries and Galloway police force. It ends with the triumph of justice
over terror. In the alternative version the heroics of the cops are obscured
by dirty politics. It ends with a dreadful miscarriage of justice.

 The conviction of Megrahi (his co-accused, Al-Amin Khalifah Fhimah, was
acquitted) supposedly proved the official version and drew a line under the
Lockerbie saga. But the case will not go away: Megrahi is planning an appeal
and the relatives of the British passengers are determined to hold the Labour
government to their promise, made in opposition, of an independent inquiry.
If the relatives get their way, a huge can of worms will be opened for, as
our book reveals, almost from the night the plane went down, vital evidence
was suppressed.

In the official version, of course, nothing of the kind happened. It posits
that on December 21 1988 Megrahi placed a bomb in a suitcase, which was
loaded, unaccompanied, on to a flight from Malta to Frankfurt, where it was
transferred to Pan Am flight 103. It exploded over Lockerbie just after 7pm
that night, killing all 259 people on board and 11 on the ground. The bomb
was built into a Toshiba radio-cassette player and fitted with a distinctive
timing device supplied to the Libyan intelligence service by a Swiss company,
Mebo. The firm's Zurich offices were shared in 1988 with the Libyan company
ABH, with which Megrahi was closely involved. He was also alleged to have
bought the clothes in the bomb suitcase from the Mary's House shop in Malta
on December 7 1988.

During the eight-month trial the prosecution could offer no direct evidence
of the bomb being loaded in Malta, and their star witnesses, Abdul Majid
Giaka - a former colleague of the two accused - was exposed as a
money-motivated fantasist. The court heard that Mebo sold identical timers to
the East German Stasi (which armed Middle East terrorist groups), and the
evidence of the Mary's House shopkeeper, Tony Gauci, suggested that the man
who bought the clothes was considerably older and taller than Megrahi, and
that the purchase occurred two weeks earlier, when, it is believed, Megrahi
had an alibi. The fact that the judges refused to be swayed by the clouds of
doubt hanging over the prosecution case left many observers staggered.

In the alternative version, the real culprits lay not in Libya, but in Iran,
Syria and Lebanon. It begins in July 1988, when a US warship accidentally
shot down an Iranian airliner over the Persian Gulf, killing 290 people. The
CIA later revealed that, within days, Iran hired the Syrian-based Popular
Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command (PFLP-GC) to avenge
the incident. The group had close ties to the Lebanese Islamic radicals
Hizbullah and in the early 1970s specialised in bombing airliners. Its
favoured method was to plant carefully disguised bombs on innocent dupes.

The group's leader, Ahmed Jibril, dispatched his right-hand man, Hafez
Dalkamoni, and a bomb-maker, Marwan Khreesat, to West Germany, where Khreesat
manufactured at least five barometric bombs designed to blow up aircraft, two
- possibly more - of which were built into Toshiba radio-casssette players.
Six weeks before Lockerbie, police raided the PFLP-GC gang and found one of
the Toshiba bombs. In the official version this put an end to the revenge
mission, but there is every reason to doubt this. The PFLP-GC may not have
relied solely on Khreesat to make bombs and, in any case, at least four of
his devices were unaccounted for. Three were recovered four months after
Lockerbie, but the second Toshiba was never found.

Five weeks after the raid, the Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) warned of
the continuing threat of an Iranian reprisal and noted that Middle Eastern
terrorist groups active in Germany had the infrastructure to conduct
bombings. At around the same time, the US state department circulated a
specific warning that radical Palestinians were planning to attack a Pan Am
target in Europe.

Three months after the bombing, the transport minister Paul Channon told
lobby journalists that the culprits had been identified and charges were
imminent. Everyone knew he meant the 

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields ofLebanon(IndependentUK)(fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Nurev Ind.

-Caveat Lector-

Bill Howard wrote:

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 In a message dated 7/1/01 6:31:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Just to confuse the issue... Did you know that canvas comes from the word
 cannabis and was a huge part of the old hemp/ maritime industry 

 So when the sailors got bored they smoked their sails? Or where the officers
 the only ones allowed to do that.


The officers enjoyed China White. The sailors enjoyed the use of hemp rope.

J2

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