[CTRL] Periodical invasions of aliens

This is interesting. We get the 11:11 again, but I am wondering whether UFO activity also follows this cycle? Peter - Original Message - From: Pierre Calais To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 12:18 PM Subject: [TheRevelation] Periodical invasions of aliens

[CTRL] Greenspan Reportedly Bribes ? Aids Bush In Gold Swindles (Part 1)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- SIGHTINGS http://www.sightings.com/politics6/goldbush.htm Greenspan Reportedly Bribes ? Aids Bush In Gold Swindles

[CTRL] ALTERNATIVE HISTORY CONFERENCES

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Birds of a Feather Publishing P.O. Box 513 Ft Bragg, CA 95437 (707) 961-6059 [EMAIL PROTECTED] January 25th, 2000 We proudly announce the unexpected revelations of the new millenium when these famous authors come to town..

Re: [CTRL] Freemasons in St Andrews

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Thanks for your input Bill, please excuse my ignorance on the subject, I'm not a historian. By the way for anyone reading this for the first time, I forgot to put the above subject title on the first mailing, so I've included the

[CTRL] new web pages

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Hello all!, I have taken two (in my humble opinion) very important messages and added html code to make them look interesting. They are 1.) a recent posting of the 25 rules of propaganda (see:www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/propaganda.html)

[CTRL] Perfectibilisen (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- 1748: UNFORGETTABLE ADAM WEISHAUPT I can practically guarantee you'll never see this article in Reader's Digest. But I love to do these Digest-style biographies of famous people in the paranormal field, so here goes. He's been

Re: [CTRL] ALTERNATIVE HISTORY CONFERENCES

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- If anyone goes to these conferences, please tell us all about them! Thanks in advance, Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.

Re: [CTRL] Freemasons in St Andrews

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- David, I took the liberty of stripping your identifying info and posting your questions to another list I'm on. I'll let you know if I get any answers. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your

[CTRL] Artistic Fallout in Austria over Haider

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Pianist Strikes a Political Chord By Philip Kennicott Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday , February 10, 2000 ; C01 The Austrian Embassy in Northwest Washington is essentially a concert hall with offices wrapped around it, a

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #1

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- SkeptiNews 000211a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. *

Re: [CTRL] Soldier slavery in U.S. Army?

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- As the good Lord is my witness, you have missed the point of this exercise. The soldiers that are caught up in this know instantly what the game is about. A soldier will do his time serving his country then when he gets almost

[CTRL] [NA] False Opposition Alert Today!

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.htmlFrom: Jim Condit Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [CTRL] Perfectibilisen (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Mike, Where did this come from? Did you write it? Thanks Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are

[CTRL] Fwd: [A-M] Vote Fraud

AUDREY'S MISSILES A weekly newsletter dedicated to the peaceful reform of the United States government. WHY VOTE? The Office of the Secretary of Privatization in the Republic [State] of Texas has something to saysomething that a growing number of Americans who stay home on election

[CTRL] Fwd: FC: DVD judge may be Hollywood's friend --Kaplan/NYT

There's nothing new here but it is a good roundup of the legal issues. --Declan http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/02/cyber/cyberlaw/11law.html Judge May Be Hollywood's Friend in Fight Over DVD Code By CARL S. KAPLAN After losing the first round in an important legal fight over DVD

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- SkeptiNews 000211b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. *

[CTRL] SAS Death Squads in Serbia

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:594583"SAS Death Squads in Serbia/A - Subject: SAS Death Squads in Serbia From: Hip Hip Hooray A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL

[CTRL] Vatican Bank

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K -Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:594542"Vatican Bank/ A - Subject: Vatican Bank From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Thu, Feb

[CTRL] Lipstadt trial: Denier admits Jews were gassed

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:594530"Lipstadt trial: Denier admits Jews were gassed/A - Subject: Lipstadt trial: Denier admits Jews were gassed From: A

[CTRL] Publications by Kansan1225

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:594511"Publications by Kansan1225/A - Subject: Publications by Kansan1225 From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "[EMAIL

[CTRL] China- World's Freest Economy

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:594483"China- World's Freest Economy/A - Subject: China- World's Freest Economy From: kcaj A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #3

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- SkeptiNews 000211c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. *

[CTRL] No Place Like R-Home

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From http://www.ardemgaz.com/today/edi/wedit111.html There's something to be said for my suggestion back in, what? aught-98, that Bill Jeff should have turned in his paperwork and faded into the wherever. When the Senate voted to

[CTRL] [10] Treason's Peace

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- an excerpt from: Treason's Peace Howard Watson Armbruster©1947 A Crossroads Press Book Beechurst Press New York 438 pps. -- First/Only Edition -- Out-of Print - CHAPTER X Senators and Congressmen -Who Never Knew MENTION IS

[CTRL] The Geography of Illegal Drugs

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- an excerpt from: The Geography of Illegal Drugs George F. Rengert Westview Press©1996 550 Central Avenue Boulder, Colorado 80301-2877 147 pps. – First Edition – In-print - An interesting little book. Lots of charts. A taste. Om K

[CTRL] mindless scottish parliament clause28

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- The Mindless Scottish parliament defied the will of the Scottish people whose overwhelming directive [66%] was to keep the current Laws. Dewar's 'listening parliament' in a departure from reason and democracy implemented changes to

[CTRL] what's comin' to Uncle Sam

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- what's comin' by Andrew Hennessey As a Brit I was brought up with the certain knowledge that the USA was cutting edge advanced civilisation - a trend setter - the peak of attainment and advancement, bigger and better and best etc

Re: [CTRL] [EWAR] THE FACE OF CHRIST?

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 00-02-11 04:01:27 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so how do we see the picture? any links for this? I've asked our correspondent in Australia to send us a copy. ;) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A

Re: [CTRL] NewsHawk Off Fl 261 Issue

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 00-02-11 12:27:31 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As usual, he does not prove whether it was really a government agency, or somebody playing to Quinn's extremely uncritical mind. I did an experiment, and

[CTRL] [MC] Did the U.S. Government Actually Create Programmed Assassins?

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.htmlFrom: James Daugherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mind

Re: [CTRL] Fang Wang's Counter-Conspiracy Against Global Ed Racketeers.

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- -Original Message- From: Colleen Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fang Wang's Counter-Conspiracy Against Global Ed Racketeers.

Re: [CTRL] Vatican Bank

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- The article Kris sent states: lawsuit is seeking restitution from the Vatican Bank, the Franciscan order and A priest at the Franciscan order's Western Province headquarters Why doesn't the writer of the article come out and

[CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Digital Dreams (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:02:06 -0800 (PST) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #4

e evolution of words in the English lang- uage used to describe sex and express love from Anglo-Saxon times to today. http://www.discovery.com/news/briefs/2211/misc_lovewords.html : Is your belief system driven by sexual conflicts? Is your sexuality driven by ideological conflicts? Are your confli

[CTRL] Limited sea rises expected

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Friday, 11 February, 2000, 11:39 GMT Limited sea rises expected from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_639000/639241.stm Sea levels will rise by "several tens of

[CTRL] French to sue US/Britain over Echelon spy network

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- - Original Message - From: JIM MEISINGER [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Janet Lee Meisinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 11:21 PM Subject: French to sue US/Britain over Echelon spy network

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Cops ticket stolen car

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Man, if the cops in that neck of the woods can't kill people, they just don't show any intelligence at all. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational

Re: [CTRL] Limited sea rises expected

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In 1986 and 87 I had a letter in the newspaper re weather control/aka weather modification in which I made these outlandish charges..that someone was messing with the jet streams, manipulating them, that the Scientists, these

[CTRL] A bit more on new catalyst

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- 2.8.00 NEW CATALYST CREATED We received this info from a respondent, who notes, UNDOUBTEDLY correctly, that multinational corporations in league with globalist New World Order power brokers will try to both suppress the information

[CTRL] Fwd: The Week Online with DRCNet, Issue #124

The Week Online with DRCNet, Issue #124 - Feb. 11, 2000 A Publication of the Drug Reform Coordination Network PLEASE COPY AND DISTRIBUTE (To sign off this list, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line signoff drc-natl in the body of the message, or

[CTRL] Fwd: HACKERS ? or GOV-SCHEME to GRAB NET ?

Hackers? FBI said a fifteen year old could have pulled off that job. So really; if that be the case, surely a fifteen year old could have prevented the job from happening? Remember how Russia tried to blame hackers for theft; and FBI also tried; and remember it was Clinton who gave away

[CTRL] Fwd: [illusions] [KENT] SOLAR ALERT

-= Illusions Mailing List [KENT] SOLAR ALERT, DETAILS AND IMAGES: http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html Subj: CME impact beginning - Severe mag storm may be starting Date: 2/11/00 4:40:28 PM Pacific Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (New Millennium) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #5

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- SkeptiNews 000211e - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. *

[CTRL] [Fwd: Gay [homo] groups seek to legalise sex in public]

fyi, Bard "...stick the tax forms where the moon don't shine." -- Steve Vaus http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/15/steve_vaus.html Electronic Telegraph - London Friday 11 February 2000 Gay groups seek to legalise sex in public lavatories By Philip Johnston, Home

[CTRL] Fwd: [SonsofLiberty] Fwd: Irish photos

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The following pictures may be of interest to someone...Sinn Fein and IRA Forever. --- ONElist Sponsor GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9 percent Intro or 9.9 percent Fixed APR

[CTRL] The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From: http://www.commonconservative.com/kane.html The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy by D. N. Kane Jeffrey Toobin, a staff writer at The New Yorker and the legal analyst at ABC News, has a new book out called A Vast Conspiracy which

Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Gay [homo] groups seek to legalise sex in public]

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Activists are determined to remove all discriminatory legislation that treats homosexual activity as morally different or inferior to heterosexual liaisons. They even want common law offences of "outraging public decency" - which in

[CTRL] NWO and E.L.F. psychotronic tyranny 1/3

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- New world order and E.L.F. psychotronic tyranny http://www.totse.com/files/FA012/elfnwo.htm http://www.totse.com/files/FA012/index.htm NEW WORLD ORDER E.L.F. PSYCHOTRONIC TYRANNY By: C.B. Baker YOUTH ACTION NEWSLETTER ISSUED

[CTRL] NWO and E.L.F. psychotronic tyranny 2/3

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- http://www.totse.com/files/FA012/elfnwo.htm "Very Low Frequency (VLF) sound (20-35 kHz), or low-frequency radio-frequency modulation CAN CAUSE NAUSEA, VOMITING, AND ABDOMINAL PAINS. Some Very Low Frequency sound generators, in

[CTRL] NWO and E.L.F. psychotronic tyranny 3/3

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- http://www.totse.com/files/FA012/elfnwo.htm NEXUS MAGAZINE stated: "Reports recently appeared that the FBI deployed the weapon against David Koresh" during the siege at Waco. This type of psychotronic weapon was able to confuse and

[CTRL] Things that make you go Hmmmm (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002XZd Gee...didn't Clinton ask for $30 million for net police in Monday's budget request? And, then...right on cue, there's a massive wave of spam attacks and hizzoner

[CTRL] Regionalism: Implementation of the New World Order

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Regionalism: Implementation of the New World Order http://www.totse.com/files/FA012/index.htm Hi all, One of our ex polititians in New Zealand Marilyn Waring got a bit disgruntled and made a video about how the world is run. Many

[CTRL] More chutzpah ... (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From: http://nypost.com/commentary/24548.htm SHE HOPES TO CLICK WITH HER E-BOUTIQUE By ROBERT HARDT Jr. and GREGG BIRNBAUM CHECK out the latest in political fashion -- "Hillary Gear." Hillary Rodham Clinton is taking

Re: [CTRL] Waco: Sniper's Nest Revealed

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.htmlFrom: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

[CTRL] Who's to Blame for Web Site Shutdowns? (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From APB News: http://www.apbnews.com/newscenter/internetcrime/2000/02/10/hack_report0210_01. html?s=syn.daily_hack_report0210 Who's to Blame for Web Site Shutdowns? 'Internet Militia' Takes Credit Feb. 10, 2000 By David Noack

[CTRL] The Next Century Shown By Its Birth Moment

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from: http://willow.he.net/~astrmind/32/asands32.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://willow.he.net/~astrmind/32/asands32.htm"AstroMind - Navigator/A - The Next Century Shown By Its Birth Moment by ANITA SANDS A year to the big

[CTRL] TPDL Sample Table of Contents. (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- THE POLITICAL DIGEST LITE © ®™ "Internet Clipping Service" 1079 Farroll Arroyo Grande, Ca. 93420-4136 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vol 6-L000211 = Today's Quote: "You've got the brain of a

[CTRL] FBI ANSIR Announcement (recv'd via E-mail) (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- == ANSIR EMAIL National Infrastructure Protection Center (NIPC) Information Systems Alert 00-034. This Awareness of National Security Issues and Response (ANSIR) communication is intended for corporate security

[CTRL] Hacker Quarterly: HACKERS TO BLAME? DOUBTFUL (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From: http://www.2600.com/news/2000/0209.html HACKERS TO BLAME? DOUBTFUL 2600 News-- The Hacker Quarterly 02/09/00 We feel sorry for the major Internet commerce sites that have been inconvenienced by the Denial of Service attacks.

[CTRL] Cars Get Towed When Clinton Visits (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Washington Post Cars Get Towed When Clinton Visits By Deb Riechmann Associated Press Writer Friday, Feb. 11, 2000; 1:45 p.m. EST WASHINGTON –– The president is coming to town. Do you know where your car is? Vacant vehicles can

[CTRL] Ex-C.I.A. Chief, During Inquiry, Helped an Aide (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- February 12, 2000 Ex-C.I.A. Chief, During Inquiry, Helped an Aide By JAMES RISEN ASHINGTON, Feb. 11 -- John M. Deutch, a former director of central intelligence, recommended a top C.I.A. official for a management job at Citibank

[CTRL] Weak mind or weak bladder? (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- FBI: Gore Changed Answers in Meeting By Pete Yost Associated Press Writer Friday, Feb. 11, 2000; 6:06 p.m. EST WASHINGTON ­­ In FBI interviews, Vice President Al Gore changed his answers when confronted with documents in a

[CTRL] On Corporate Power (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- [Read this and then tell me if there is ANYONE that still thinks that corporate money and power does not determine policy making in this country? --MS] WALL STREET JOURNAL: Top business executives are issuing a blunt warning to

[CTRL] Honduran/Panamanian military-equipment scandal brewing? (fwd)

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:39:02 -0600 From: peggy piersall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Honduran/Panamanian military-equipment scandal brewing? I received the message but my browser was shut

[CTRL] China, Russia Solidifying Military Ties

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- (Note to everyone, SNETNEWS is great place to discuss politics. Subscription instructions at the end of the article. --SW) --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:12:25 -0500 (EST) From:

[CTRL] FW: The LOOP TODAY : Westminster Support

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Dave Hartley http://www.asheville-computer.com/dave -Original Message- From: Roger Bunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 5:20 PM To: Dave Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The LOOP TODAY : Westminster

[CTRL] What is a Bribe? Is This A Bribe or What?

-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- So what is a bribethis story pulled up which I thought rather oddsome big money floating around with that Delta Forcethey sure want their training and they sure got some at WACO did they not? Giving money to favorite