Re: run.exe will not work with upgrade from 1.14.4 to 1.16.3
On 01/05/2015 04:06 AM, Laurens Blankers wrote: snip Since I believe the rest of what you wrote above has been covered in one form or another since my last reply, I won't bore anyone with my responses. This leaves just one very critical piece of business which absolutely must be addressed: A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? I really like your signature, do you mind if I borrow/steal it? Of course! I actually borrowed it from someone else a few lifetimes ago so it would hardly be sporting of me to deny you equal rights. :-) -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: run.exe will not work with upgrade from 1.14.4 to 1.16.3
On 01/04/2015 06:41 AM, Laurens Blankers wrote: On 2015-01-04 00:02, Larry Hall (Cygwin-X) wrote: The fact that the recent changes interfere with previous usage is an issue that needs attention for sure but reverting, while the maintainer's call, just trades misbehaviour in the eyes of one group for that of the other. That may be true, but you are prioritizing new users over your existing user base here. There are many many users out there for which the behaviour as exhibited by 1.3.2-1 has worked for many years. Behaviour which is now broken, without even the slightest hint of what is going on! And without a way to get all the functionality back, even with changes! I encourage those that want to smooth the transition to help by trying the solutions so far and offering feedback on what works well and what doesn't. This is the way we can reach a solution that addresses the concerns of both groups. I would like to help smoothing the transition, however not by forcing changes down peoples throats and then saying may be when can make this better some time in the future. If you want my help, do the right thing, acknowledge that the way of handling this was wrong. Revert the changes. And solicit the help of the people on this mailing list to come up with a well designed, well tested, and well documented solution. I think your point has been heard. There's no need to take it to another Cygwin list or reiterate it here. I don't think so. You maintain that the approach chosen was the right one. I think the saying in English is It Takes a Real Man to Admit when He's Wrong. I am sorry, I can't help you if you keep maintaining nothing went wrong. So I'm guessing with your statement above that English isn't your primary language. If true, then perhaps that's why you keep saying I've made statements I didn't make. You say above that I keep maintaining nothing went wrong. And yet you quoted me in your response saying The fact that the recent changes interfere with previous usage is an issue that needs attention If this is really just a language issue, then I understand but let's try to avoid it in the future. If not, I have to again ask you not to attribute statements you make as ones I have made. If you persist, I won't continue to respond to your thread, assuming there would be any redeeming value to continuing this thread at this point. OK, let me try to be as clear as possible: 1. I am not the maintainer of the xinit package. That is Yaakov Selkowitz. You can see this by his announcement of the latest version. https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/2014-11/msg4.html So when I say that how the upgrade of the xinit is handled is up to the maintainer, I mean it is up to Yaakov, not me. 2. Yaakov is a very capable and prolific contributor to the Cygwin project and has been for many years. Because of his many hats and tasks, others (including me), from time to time, try to help people with issues they see, even if the package or packages in question are maintained by someone else (and this is the case with xinit as I mentioned above). 3. There have been a number of related issues that have popped up relative to the latest version of xinit. I've listed quite a few entry points to the relevant threads. You'll notice that sometimes Yaakov is answering the question raised and other times others are doing it. That's standard operating procedure. https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2014-11/msg00038.html https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2014-11/msg00040.html https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2014-11/msg00041.html https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2014-11/msg00043.html https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2014-12/msg0.html https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2014-12/msg2.html https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2014-12/msg8.html https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2014-12/msg9.html https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2014-12/msg00028.html https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2014-12/msg00048.html https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2014-12/msg00057.html When I mentioned above that you or others can help out by pointing out where the solutions proposed fall short, I wa referring to the solutions offered in the threads above, in case it wasn't clear to anyone. I gather from your comments in https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2014-12/msg00060.html that the only issue that you're aware of that isn't addressed by the solutions offered so far is the one about the icon showing in the task bar rather than the tray. If you or others know of other issues, that would be useful to report. 4. I realize that you have a policy issue that you raised as a result of your xinit upgrade experience, which you posted about in https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2014-12/msg00060.html and have subsequently taken to the Cygwin main list https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2015-01/msg00030.html
Re: run.exe will not work with upgrade from 1.14.4 to 1.16.3
On 01/03/2015 03:03 AM, Laurens Blankers wrote: On 3-1-2015 04:48, Larry Hall (Cygwin-X) wrote: But the functionality in the latest release of the xinit corrects some long-standing Cygwin incompatibilities with startx, so there's no benefit to turning back as a strategy. This is exactly why I have such hard time convincing people that using open source software is a good idea: The solution is technically better, so if it breaks for you I don't care. Interesting that you should gather that from my comments, since I never said I don't care nor do I believe that the maintainer doesn't care. Seems to me like you're attributing perceptions you've gathered from other people and interactions in your life to me. Please don't do that. My point, which I will reiterate again because I think it received overtones I wasn't conveying the first time, is that the changes made are indeed needed and beneficial in general. You can find evidence of this in the email archives. Removing the newly introduced changes means these other folks that expect Cygwin's X to work like it does on Linux and other platforms will continue to be surprised, etc. The fact that the recent changes interfere with previous usage is an issue that needs attention for sure but reverting, while the maintainer's call, just trades misbehaviour in the eyes of one group for that of the other. And the individual is always free to revert the package version in the short-term to address any immediate need. So with the short-term bases covered, it makes sense to move forward by looking and going forward. I encourage those that want to smooth the transition to help by trying the solutions so far and offering feedback on what works well and what doesn't. This is the way we can reach a solution that addresses the concerns of both groups. snip The best, and actually only way to move forward is to revert back to the behaviour of 1.3.2-1 and rethink this whole approach. Once a good transition plan is in place the changes can be reapplied. But it is obvious that I won't find a sympathetic ear to the plight of the user here, so I will escalate this to the main Cygwin mailing list. Hopefully people their actually care about user experience. I think your point has been heard. There's no need to take it to another Cygwin list or reiterate it here. Since the issue is related to the changes in the xinit package and this is the list for X issues, you have the right forum if you want to help work towards a smoother transition for existing users with the xinit package. The Cygwin main list is really for everything but X. Talking about X things there will likely get you redirected back to this list. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: run.exe will not work with upgrade from 1.14.4 to 1.16.3
On 01/02/2015 03:35 PM, schilpfamily wrote: rolling back to 1.3.2-1 fixed it. thank you very much for this, i was really pulling my hair out on this. i read your request to the maintainers and fully agree. while i only brought up this one bug, since it was basically making cygwin/x useless, there were other issues that made it annoying. Certainly it is good feedback to know that the issue you were seeing is related to the new version of xinit. I would encourage you and others that see issues with the latest release to report the problems (as you have) and to try the solutions offered in the cygwin-xfree mailing list discussions from the last couple of months. If there are technical issues with those solutions, they need to be reported as well. Obviously, the key thing here is to figure out how to make this transition smoother, so the more useful feedback there is, the better. Downgrading may be a practical short-term solution to the problems you're having at the moment and that's fine. But the functionality in the latest release of the xinit corrects some long-standing Cygwin incompatibilities with startx, so there's no benefit to turning back as a strategy. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: startxwin.exe no longer exists?
On 12/15/2014 09:49 PM, Will Parsons wrote: Marco Atzeri wrote: On 12/12/2014 7:07 PM, Will Parsons wrote: For several years now I have been starting X windows by clicking on an icon on my desktop that is a link to C:\cygwin\bin\startxwin.exe. It has recently ceased to work because apparently startxwin.exe no longer exists. Somehow I missed where this was removed, so what is the recommended way of starting X from a desktop icon now? I seem to recall that startxwin.exe was introduced some time ago because using a script to start X was inadequate somehow, but I don't remember the details, so what changed? https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/2014-11/msg4.html OK - so what I get from that is that whatever problems were associated with the original shell script have been solved and startxwin is now a shell script again. But, my basic question is unanswered - how do I start an X session from an icon? Obviously, simply replacing the link to startxwin.exe to startxwin will not work, so I copied the shortcut from the start menu to the desktop and tried it (after renaming my .xinitrc and .startxwinrc files to avoid any problems with the change of model). If I click on the icon, I *do* get an X session (along with an xterm that I don't need), but if try (e.g.) to start emacs under mintty, I get a non-X emacs, with an error message: Display :0 unavailable, simulating -nw Sure, display :0 is unavailable; checking DISPLAY in the (unwanted) xterm shows DISPLAY is set to :5. Why's that I wonder? Further investigation shows ls -ltr /tmp: -r--r--r-- 1 william None 11 Nov 28 17:43 /tmp/.X0-lock -r--r--r-- 1 william None 11 Dec 13 17:43 /tmp/.X1-lock -r--r--r-- 1 william None 11 Dec 13 17:55 /tmp/.X2-lock -r--r--r-- 1 william None 11 Dec 13 19:22 /tmp/.X3-lock -r--r--r-- 1 william None 11 Dec 15 16:53 /tmp/.X4-lock -r--r--r-- 1 william None 11 Dec 15 17:00 /tmp/.X5-lock Interesting. It looks like every time I start an X session a lock file is created and doesn't get deleted, so the display number keeps changing. This doesn't look right, so how do I avoid it? You will get one lock file for every instance of the server you are running. To remove the lock files, kill all instances of the server and remove any remaining lock files. Then you can start a single session. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: startxwin.exe no longer exists?
On 12/15/2014 10:30 PM, Will Parsons wrote: Larry Hall (Cygwin-X) wrote: On 12/15/2014 09:49 PM, Will Parsons wrote: Marco Atzeri wrote: On 12/12/2014 7:07 PM, Will Parsons wrote: For several years now I have been starting X windows by clicking on an icon on my desktop that is a link to C:\cygwin\bin\startxwin.exe. It has recently ceased to work because apparently startxwin.exe no longer exists. Somehow I missed where this was removed, so what is the recommended way of starting X from a desktop icon now? I seem to recall that startxwin.exe was introduced some time ago because using a script to start X was inadequate somehow, but I don't remember the details, so what changed? https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/2014-11/msg4.html OK - so what I get from that is that whatever problems were associated with the original shell script have been solved and startxwin is now a shell script again. But, my basic question is unanswered - how do I start an X session from an icon? Obviously, simply replacing the link to startxwin.exe to startxwin will not work, so I copied the shortcut from the start menu to the desktop and tried it (after renaming my .xinitrc and .startxwinrc files to avoid any problems with the change of model). If I click on the icon, I *do* get an X session (along with an xterm that I don't need), but if try (e.g.) to start emacs under mintty, I get a non-X emacs, with an error message: Display :0 unavailable, simulating -nw Sure, display :0 is unavailable; checking DISPLAY in the (unwanted) xterm shows DISPLAY is set to :5. Why's that I wonder? Further investigation shows ls -ltr /tmp: -r--r--r-- 1 william None 11 Nov 28 17:43 /tmp/.X0-lock -r--r--r-- 1 william None 11 Dec 13 17:43 /tmp/.X1-lock -r--r--r-- 1 william None 11 Dec 13 17:55 /tmp/.X2-lock -r--r--r-- 1 william None 11 Dec 13 19:22 /tmp/.X3-lock -r--r--r-- 1 william None 11 Dec 15 16:53 /tmp/.X4-lock -r--r--r-- 1 william None 11 Dec 15 17:00 /tmp/.X5-lock Interesting. It looks like every time I start an X session a lock file is created and doesn't get deleted, so the display number keeps changing. This doesn't look right, so how do I avoid it? You will get one lock file for every instance of the server you are running. To remove the lock files, kill all instances of the server and remove any remaining lock files. Then you can start a single session. well, I *had* killed them. Are you saying I need to manually remove these old lock files? I suppose I can come up with a way of semi-automating this, but it doesn't seem like it should be necessary. Is this a matter of X sessions not properly exiting? Yes, that is correct. In general, you shouldn't see this. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: FW: Cygwin start menu / mirrors
On 10/21/2014 04:59 PM, t s wrote: webpage; http://cygwinports.org/ says to issue the command; cygstart -- /path/to/setup-x86.exe -K http://cygwinports.org/ports.gpg so I issued; cygstart -- e:/setup-x86_64.exe -K http://cygwinports.org/ports.gpg at first this command worked. Now it doesn't. It throws up an error message unable to get setup.ini from http://cygwinports.org/ports.gpg; help, please? Looks like it's a temporary glitch, as it works fine for me when I tried it just now. Two other things to note though: 1. cygwinports.org is not cygwin.com so asking questions about it on cygwin.com mailing lists is really off-topic. cygwinports.org has its own mailing list if you have further questions about the packages and services it provides. 2. This list is reserved for Cygwin-X-specific issues. So if you have questions in the future related to Cygwin-X, this is the right mailing list. Otherwise, if it's a more general Cygwin issue, the main list (cygwin at cygwin dot com) is the right place. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Copy/paste broken from X to Windows
On 10/21/2013 12:45 AM, Matt D. wrote: Copy/paste seems to be broken when attempting to copy a large block of text from X to Windows. See the attachment for an example. Copying the text from Windows to X seems fine but the reverse causes the mouse cursor to spin and then a blank string to paste. Please send this report to the cygwin-xfree list. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Copy/paste broken from X to Windows
On 10/21/2013 6:40 PM, Matt D. wrote: Larry, This is the cygwin-xfree list? Right. My apologies. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
On 10/3/2013 12:46 PM, Erik Soderquist wrote: snip I just fired up a 64-bit Ubuntu VM I had laying around, installed firefox, and tunneled it to cygwin64/X on my win7-64 machine. X isn't even visible in the task manager when I sort descending by PF delta, CPU, or memory. This in spite of having half a dozen tabs with content (including ads, an html5 game, and a youtube video playing). Opening a couple dozen more empty tabs brought PFdelta up to the ~7k range, but the rate dropped back to ~0 as soon as the dust settled. Typing remains fully responsive, and I'm officially out of ideas. Ryan That is the kind of responsiveness I expect, and what other people I've discussed this with experience, which is why I think it is something unusual in my setup or environment... Unfortunately, I'm currently unable to find it myself, and can reliably reproduce the issue even in a virgin environment. So far, the only common factors (that I see) across each of these has been my Linux host, (CentOS 5.8 at present) and my various tabs/accounts. However, I am at a complete loss as to even guess at how these could affect page faulting on the X server. For reference: on the Linux host, when the Windows host is experiencing these page faults, the Linux host is reporting 20-30% CPU usage overall, no swap usage. Any chance of finding or setting up an alternate host to test against? -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: XWin.exe crashes on Windows restart
On 9/10/2013 5:16 PM, Andreas Girgensohn wrote: On a different note, when running gdb, I noticed that XWin.exe twice receives a SIGSYS when starting. That does not affect normal operations. Right. This is fine. If you find this annoying or want to use the facilities provided by Cygserver with the X-server, see http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-cygserver.html to learn about it and how to turn it on. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Can't resize windows in Cygwin/X 1.12.1
On 7/12/2013 5:40 PM, STEVEN SITTSER wrote: Until recently I was using Cygwin/X under Cygwin 1.5.18 on Windows XP. The windows displayed by our in-house X applications had resize borders - I could resize the windows by grabbing an edge. Now, I am using Cygwin/X 1.12.1 under Cygwin 1.7.14 on Windows XP. Now, the windows displayed by the same applications have a fixed size - I can't resize them by grabbing the edges. (This is true both when I run the exact same executables under both Cygwin versions, and when I build the applications separately under each Cygwin version.) I'd recommend updating to the current versions for the packages you're using as a first step. You're at least a year out-of-date with the latest versions you have. Cygwin is now at version 1.7.20-1 and the xorg-server package is currently at version 1.14.2-1 -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Missing X11 Libraries
On 6/11/2013 12:46 AM, Dan Piraner wrote: P.S. I tried to paste my CygCheck.out contents here but the email bounced with a message saying it exceeded the maximum size. Please let me know if there are any particular subsections that I should send. We ask that you *attach* the cygcheck output rather than paste the contents in. Attaching will avoid this complaint. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Nedit bugs: paste and server crash
On 6/6/2013 12:41 PM, mathog wrote: Details: Cygwin/X Xserver package version 1.11.1-1 built 2011-10-05 This version is notably old. I might suggest that you update to the latest and retest before spending much time looking into the code for the problem. You may luck out. :-) -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Conflicted Win7
On 3/22/2013 3:59 PM, McBroom, Robert C wrote: A new Windows 7 32 system with a fresh install of CYGWIN can't see any mapped network or shared drives on my other systems. On the older XP system IT tells me to replace and on another older Windows 7 32 system, CYGWIN could access all drives. What am I missing in the install that enables access to those drives? Based on the information you've provided so far, there's no reason to expect that Cygwin is your issue. Can you access the shares from Windows? If so, please read and follow the problem reporting guidelines found at the link below. Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html With this information, it may be possible for someone on the list to identify why you are seeing this issue with Cygwin. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Conflicted Win7
On 3/22/2013 4:50 PM, Larry Hall (Cygwin-X) wrote: On 3/22/2013 3:59 PM, McBroom, Robert C wrote: A new Windows 7 32 system with a fresh install of CYGWIN can't see any mapped network or shared drives on my other systems. On the older XP system IT tells me to replace and on another older Windows 7 32 system, CYGWIN could access all drives. What am I missing in the install that enables access to those drives? Based on the information you've provided so far, there's no reason to expect that Cygwin is your issue. Can you access the shares from Windows? If so, please read and follow the problem reporting guidelines found at the link below. Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html With this information, it may be possible for someone on the list to identify why you are seeing this issue with Cygwin. I should also mention that this isn't a Cygwin-X issue. If you follow-up, you should really do so on the main Cygwin list. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Clarification on GLUT and Cygwin
On 1/7/2013 10:08 PM, MyBig SpamEmail wrote: snip Also, I am trying to figure out how to resolve this issue going forward. Will the obsolete OpenGL package always be available to use in the future, or will this package eventually be completely dropped from Cygwin? (I hope not, this may make us have to move away from Cygwin.) Theoretically yes, obsolete packages will eventually be dropped. But realistically, the time between now and when this will happen could be measured in years. This should give you plenty of time to make appropriate adjustments. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: startx with different displays
On 4/24/2012 2:58 AM, Marc Girod wrote: Larry Hall (Cygwin-X) wrote: Get rid of the real dups. You only need the one in /usr/bin. I don't know how they got there. They are not in my normal path. Somehow my procedure to run cygcheck must have injected them. I add them in neither .bash_profile nor .bashrc. Don't worry about the duplicated paths. I'm saying get rid of the actual duplicated DLLs. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: startx with different displays
On 4/24/2012 5:12 PM, Marc Girod wrote: Larry Hall (Cygwin-X) wrote: Don't worry about the duplicated paths. I'm saying get rid of the actual duplicated DLLs. Sorry, but I have none. My understanding is that the report was only the result of the duplicated paths. Running cygcheck again doesn't find duplicated DLLs. OK, good. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: startx with different displays
On 4/23/2012 5:47 AM, Marc Girod wrote: snip Incidentally, I saw there: Warning: There are multiple cygwin1.dlls on your path So, I checked: bin for d in $(echo $PATH | tr : '\n'); do if [ -r $d/cygwin1.dll ]; then echo $d; fi; done /usr/bin /usr/bin bin echo $PATH | tr : '\n' /usr/local/bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin /usr/bin /cygdrive/c/Windows/system32 /cygdrive/c/Windows /cygdrive/c/Windows/System32/Wbem /cygdrive/c/strawberry/c/bin /cygdrive/c/strawberry/perl/site/bin /cygdrive/c/strawberry/perl/bin /cygdrive/c/Program Files/WIDCOMM/Bluetooth Software /cygdrive/c/Program Files/Rational/common /cygdrive/c/Program Files/Rational/ClearCase/bin /cygdrive/c/Program Files/Rational/ClearCase/etc /cygdrive/c/Program Files/Rational/ClearCase/etc/utils /cygdrive/c/Sysinternals /cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft Windows Performance Toolkit I plead non guilty of the duplication of /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin in $PATH. Get rid of the real dups. You only need the one in /usr/bin. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Linking Errors related to X11
On 3/22/2012 10:33 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:04:54PM -0400, Larry Hall (Cygwin-X) wrote: On 3/21/2012 6:19 PM, Tom Szczesny wrote: I am attempting to port the aplus-fsf-4.22 package (available at www.aplusdev.org) to cygwin, and I'm getting linking errors related to X11. I can build the package successfully on Gentoo Linux. The build on cygwin fails at /aplus-fsf-4.22/src/main/aplus-main.c with many error messages related to X11, such as undefined reference to '_XWarpPointer'. The Makefile.in contains the lines: X_INCLUDES = @X_INCLUDES@ X_LIBS = @X_LIBS@ which got translated (in the Makefile) to: X_INCLUDES = -I X_LIBS = -L -lX11 While this works when building in Gentoo Linux, it does not appear to be correct for cygwin. What is the correct specification when building the package in cygwin? [I thought this was already answered in the cygwin list] Me too. ;-) Try these: X_INCLUDES = /usr/include X_LIBS = -L /usr/include -lX11 You can also override the faulty configure script values and point directly at these paths with the -x-includes and -x-libraries flags. The -L part is not right, Larry. If anything, it should be -L /usr/lib but there's no need for that since /usr/lib is searched by default. So both the -L and the -I should just be deleted. Ugh. Cut and paste error. Thanks for the correction. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Linking Errors related to X11
On 3/22/2012 3:46 PM, Tom Szczesny wrote: Blunt is fine ( I don't mind). To repeat what I reported in an earlier note: When I set: X_INCLUDES = X_LIBS = -lX11 I get: g++ -O2 -o aplus.exe mainC.o aplus_main.o aplus_uext.o matherr.o -L/usr/local/aplus-fsf-4.22/src/IPC -L/usr/local/aplus-fsf-4.22/src/cxs -L/usr/local/aplus-fsf-4.22/src/cxb -L/usr/local/aplus-fsf-4.22/src/AplusGUI -L/usr/local/aplus-fsf-4.22/src/cxsys -L/usr/local/aplus-fsf-4.22/src/cxc -L/usr/local/aplus-fsf-4.22/src/esf -L/usr/local/aplus-fsf-4.22/src/a -L/usr/local/aplus-fsf-4.22/src/dap -L/usr/local/aplus-fsf-4.22/src/MSGUI -L/usr/local/aplus-fsf-4.22/src/MSIPC -L/usr/local/aplus-fsf-4.22/src/MSTypes .libs/libimp-cygX11-6.a .libs/libimp-cygxcb-1.a .libs/libimp-cygXau-6.a .libs/libimp-cygXdmcp-6.a ../../src/IPC/.libs/libIPC.a ../../src/cxs/.libs/libcxs.a ../../src/cxb/.libs/libcxb.a ../../src/AplusGUI/.libs/libAplusGUI.a ../../src/cxsys/.libs/libcxsys.a ../../src/cxc/.libs/libcxc.a ../../src/esf/.libs/libesf.a ../../src/a/.libs/liba.a ../../src/dap/.libs/libdap.a ../../src/MSGUI/.libs/libMSGUI.a ../../src/MSIPC/.libs/libMSIPC.a ../../src/MSTypes/.libs/libMSTypes.a -lpthread -ldl ../../src/AplusGUI/.libs/libAplusGUI.a(AGIF.o):AGIF.C:(.text+0x13ba): undefined reference to `_XWarpPointer' That's because the Makefile generated by the configure script *ignores* X_LIBS. You'll need to force -lX11 into the link line of every affected Makefile. if you want it to link against this library. This is a problem with the app's configure script, not Cygwin. You should report this to the maintainers. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Linking Errors related to X11
On 3/22/2012 4:54 PM, Tom Szczesny wrote: Larry Hall wrote: That's because the Makefile generated by the configure script *ignores* X_LIBS. You'll need to force -lX11 into the link line of every affected Makefile. if you want it to link against this library. This is a problem with the app's configure script, not Cygwin. You should report this to the maintainers. The lib for src/dap is ../../src/dap/.libs/libdap.a The lib for src/AplusGUI is ../../src/ApluGUI/.libs/libAplusGUI.a What file contains the lib for X11 in cygwin? The one you've been trying to tell it to use - libX11.a. It's in /usr/lib. It comes from Cygwin's libX11-devel package. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Linking Errors related to X11
On 3/21/2012 6:19 PM, Tom Szczesny wrote: I am attempting to port the aplus-fsf-4.22 package (available at www.aplusdev.org) to cygwin, and I'm getting linking errors related to X11. I can build the package successfully on Gentoo Linux. The build on cygwin fails at /aplus-fsf-4.22/src/main/aplus-main.c with many error messages related to X11, such as undefined reference to '_XWarpPointer'. The Makefile.in contains the lines: X_INCLUDES = @X_INCLUDES@ X_LIBS = @X_LIBS@ which got translated (in the Makefile) to: X_INCLUDES = -I X_LIBS = -L -lX11 While this works when building in Gentoo Linux, it does not appear to be correct for cygwin. What is the correct specification when building the package in cygwin? Try these: X_INCLUDES = /usr/include X_LIBS = -L /usr/include -lX11 You can also override the faulty configure script values and point directly at these paths with the -x-includes and -x-libraries flags. I didn't test these settings so you may need to experiment a little. But essentially you can find the paths you're looking for by checking out the contents on the libX11-devel package, which you should already have. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Computer upgrade breaks CYGWIN X
On 8/16/2011 1:57 PM, McBroom, Robert C wrote: lhall wrote: On 8/12/2011 9:44 AM, McBroom, Robert C wrote: snip rm3@mcbroomrc2 ~ $ 1 [main] emacs-X11 5540 C:\cygwin\bin\emacs-X11.exe: *** fatal error - unable to remap \\?\C:\cygwin\lib\gtk-2.0\2.10.0\loaders\cygpixbufloader-xpm.dll to same address as parent: 0x37 != 0x3F Stack trace: You might try rebaseall for this. Read the readme first though so you know how to run it. None of my searches show a faq or readme for rebaseall. $ ls /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/rebase-3.0.1.README /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/rebase-3.0.1.README There it is! ;-) -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Computer upgrade breaks CYGWIN X
On 8/12/2011 9:44 AM, McBroom, Robert C wrote: snip rm3@mcbroomrc2 ~ $ 1 [main] emacs-X11 5540 C:\cygwin\bin\emacs-X11.exe: *** fatal error - unable to remap \\?\C:\cygwin\lib\gtk-2.0\2.10.0\loaders\cygpixbufloader-xpm.dll to same address as parent: 0x37 != 0x3F Stack trace: You might try rebaseall for this. Read the readme first though so you know how to run it. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: X on win 7
On 7/7/2011 10:24 AM, Daniel Bienstock wrote: Hello, I have a new Dell Dimension M6600 with Windows 7 SP 1. I have disabled the Windows firewall and added rules to allow programs in cygwin and cygwin\bin to run. I am using cygwin 1.7.9 (I also use older cygwins on many 32-bit Windows machines). On this machine, X runs badly: often very slowly, and frequently with crashes as well. A couple of times I was forced to reboot the machine -- Windows appeared unresponsive. I did try rebaseall, but did not help (in fact had to reinstall cygwin). I have seen some posts on this topic, but no definitive workaround. Sounds like a case of BLODA to me. http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.using.html#faq.using.bloda -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Still can't run XServer or any apps that require it
On 4/26/2011 1:16 AM, David M. Karr wrote: On 4/25/2011 10:07 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 04:23:56PM +0100, Jon TURNEY wrote: On 23/04/2011 17:47, David M. Karr wrote: Almost a week ago now, I've been unable to run my XServer, and thus any of the apps that normally run with it, like Emacs. I realise this situation is an inconvenience, but please don't post to multiple lists just because you don't get a quick response. When I run startxwin, it just says failed to activate core devices. [snip] [498341.949] (EE) XKB: Could not invoke xkbcomp [498341.949] (EE) XKB: Couldn't compile keymap [498341.949] (EE) XKB: Failed to load keymap. Loading default keymap instead. [498342.089] (EE) XKB: Could not invoke xkbcomp [498342.089] (EE) XKB: Couldn't compile keymap [498342.089] XKB: Failed to compile keymap [498342.089] Keyboard initialization failed. This could be a missing or incorrect setup of xkeyboard-config. [498342.089] Fatal server error: Failed to activate core devices. -- I looked in the FAQ for the entry corresponding to this error, but none of the steps found any issues. I've tried doing rebaseall according to the instructions, but that hasn't made any difference. In fact, my problems started when I ran rebaseall to fix a different problem. I was getting Doing vfork: resource temporarily unavailable when I started up Emacs, and some advice I found suggested running rebaseall. Unfortunately, rebaseall is a rather limited workaround, rather than a solution for these issues (for reasons which have been discussed extensively in the past) There has been a recent cygwin DLL change which *might* help in this situation, so I'd suggest you try the 2011-04-07 snapshot from [1] and see if that makes a difference. (I wouldn't recommend later ones as they seem to have a regression in a different area) [1] http://cygwin.com/snapshots/ Also, I've found that using a different base address with rebaseall seems to help with some X problems: dash -c rebaseall -b 0x7700 http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2011-04/msg00306.html Ok, that appears to have fixed my problem. Is that a permanent fix? For now, yes. ;-) -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: complains about the cygwin/gcc binaries
On 1/27/2011 2:36 PM, wxie wrote: In the ROOT downloading website: http://root.cern.ch/drupal/content/production-version-528 It says: Note that the performance of cygwin/gcc binaries is currently very poor; we only pro vide this build as an unsupported toy. We strongly recommend to use the version above compiled with VC++. The ROOT team will not answer any messages related to problems with the win32gcc version What's the reason of the poor performance. Is there any way to improve that? If you're posting something about Cygwin's gcc or Cygwin in general, the better list is cygwin at cygwin dot com. As for the statement above, I think you're better off asking the folks that are responsible for making the statement. There's obviously some overhead to the emulated environment that Cygwin provides but I can't say whether the statement is a general reference to this issue or to something more specific. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Reproducible assertion failure in XCB
On 1/21/2011 1:42 PM, Daniel Colascione wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Jon TURNEY jon.turney wrote: There is a libX11_6 1.4.0-1 package in cygwinports (along with all the other excellent work Yaakov has been doing packaging X11R7.6), it would be great if you could test with that, as there have been several fixes in this area since 1.3.3 I can do that today or tomorrow --- but could someone kindly point me to the repository? I thought you mean the Cygwin experimental respository, but that turns out not to be the case. See http://sourceware.org/cygwinports/. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: can not startx
On 1/13/2011 5:35 AM, Reinier Post wrote: Yaakov (Cygwin/Xyselkowitzat users.sourceforge.net writes: On 05/01/2010 16:56, eric lin wrote: this is my /var/log/XWin.0.log where I think problm cause, fail startx, please help, eric Sigh. Lets try this again: Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Yaakov Cygwin/X I can't follow the rules, there because I'm posting this from http://post.gmane.org/post.php?group=gmane.os.cygwin.xfreefollowup=20508 which doesn't support attachments. Feel free to send a full report with attachments as email to the cygwin-xfree list. You can reference the above URL for continuity if you like too. -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: X server does not start from bash nor start menu
On 11/10/2010 12:38 PM, ed wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Jon TURNEYjon.tur...@... wrote: ^^ http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR Can you start the X server by typing 'XWin' into a bash shell? Does that produce any output? If not, does 'cygcheck XWin' identify any problems? in a command shell (not a bash shell) xwin.exe gave me the error report that I needed cygcrypto-0.9.8.dll I don't know exactly why the file didn't install by default, but I found a 3rd party site that had the file. I really don't trust the file I installed, but the X server starts with it installed. I don't know which package would install cygcrypto-0.9.8.dll thank you for you assistance it is greatly appreciated. http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=cygcrypto-0.9.8.dll -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Updated: xorg-server-1.9.2-1
On 11/8/2010 6:48 AM, Fergus wrote: PS It kills me not to copy this to cygwin at cygwin dot com which I feel will have a much wider readership and skill set amongst that readership, but anybody sinning in this regard is always referred straight to Cygwin-X. Because this is where those interested in Cygwin-X will be hanging out and looking for answers. For issues that are clearly X-related (or suspected to be so), it makes sense to query the list that supports that functionality, even if the readership is smaller than the main list. From the perspective of those with a problem, I would think there would be a preference for quality (of responses from this list) vs quantity (of eyes on some other list). And I'm sure those on the main list who aren't interested in X issues much prefer the lack of X traffic (and vice-versa). If you look in the email archives for discussions about merging the lists, you'll see these two points were well represented in the feedback, if my memory serves. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text
On 9/14/2010 4:05 PM, Brian Kelly wrote: Also - tried GVim, and it locked when I only got one character highlighted. Tried minTTY, and it works perfectly (of course it's not X-based). The cut-and-paste works flawlessly. Again, why X highlighting and cut-and-paste worked yesterday and not today is the real mystery. The machine has been rebooted numerous times as well - to no avail. You might want to look at what Windows, virus, and spyware updates occurred recently. It's also possible this is interference from BLODA. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Using konsole in Cygwin
On 8/6/2010 4:21 AM, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Fri, 6 Aug 2010, JOHNER Jean 066030 wrote: On Thu, 5 Aug 2010, Thomas Dickey wrote: iirc, cygwin has xterm, rxvt and rxvt-unicode which are very nice tools. And also Mintty which is great. But console has also interesting features (multiple shells in the same window in different tabs for example). From your answer, I conclude that konsole is not available in Cygwin. I guess the answer is the same for GNOME-termimal. Do you confirm? that's my understanding - there was just this week a thread on this list which stated that. Right. There are external ports of these but nothing in the distribution right now. As for other terminals with things like tabs, you can check out Poderosa and/or Console2. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: GNOME on cygwin
On 8/4/2010 6:33 PM, Timares, Brian (HP) wrote: Raul Acevedo wrote: My real question is what is the point of these packages, if GNOME is not actually in them. It's a bit confusing and I wasted a chunk of time trying to install GNOME through Cygwin only to find out it's not possible. Brian, you misunderstand what Gnome is, since the Cygwin distribution contains many packages that make up Gnome. See below for more. snip Here is my answer to your question. Disclaimer: I'm pretty sure I'm right, I don't _know_ I'm right. Some nice programs that rely on pieces of Gnome are installable with Cygwin. Since they require bits and pieces of Gnome those pieces get installed. Yep. snip By the way, I believe I understand Larry's answer. He was telling you, essentially, that Cygwin is not a way to get Gnome installed, rather, a way to run specific Unix-like programs on a Windows PC. You don't get gnome-terminal because no one has ported it. That's not entirely true since, as you mentioned below, there are ports out there (Cygwin Ports being the most comprehensive and a better source for all-that-is-Gnome). But, as I think is clear, there's a difference between someone's personal collection of software ported to Cygwin (and possibly conveniently packaged like Cygwin Ports) and the Cygwin distribution. The biggest difference is packages in the Cygwin distribution are maintained and cygwin.com supports them. This cannot be said for other sites. cygwin.com is not a loose collection of ported software brought under one roof by an installer. It is a distribution and only those things in the distribution are provided and supported. Understanding this, I checked the Cygwin/X FAQ. I saw 10.1. Is there a list of software that has been ported to Cygwin/X? It struck me that might lead to something useful, which it does, it says The CygGnome project aims to port Gnome to Cygwin/X. http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/ So essentially, you were confused because the Gnome section implied you could get full-on Gnome. Why is there that section? Beats me. The short answer is that it's there to house all-that-is-Gnome. It just doesn't contain everything yet. With some luck, it will someday. In the meantime, there are allot of packages that make up Gnome. Since the distribution has some of them now, it makes sense to put them in this category. The same is true for KDE, Perl, etc. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Resizing problem
On 7/16/2010 10:39 AM, Olwe Melwasul wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: ^ http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR. Thanks. On 15/07/2010 18:02, Olwe Melwasul wrote: I installed cygwin/xcygwin 1.7.5 with KDE. I don't know where you got KDE from, but it's not in the standard cygwin distribution. If you have problems with KDE, perhaps you should try the place you got it from. snip I'm not your typical newbie from hell, and if I'm having this level of trouble with cygwin/Xcygwin out of the box, let that be a barometer that your product lacks proper documentation. After all, how many casual Windows users curious about GNU/Linux who found Xcygwin not working out of the box (still not working after reading your spotty Xcygwin user's guide) would have Googled around for a solution? I found the rebase all and it worked. Why? I still don't know. But do you expect a real beginner to have gone to those lengths? As for where I got my distro, I chose the ucalgary mirror because it's one of the closest to me here in Minnesota. If the ucalgary mirror is dealing bad source, is that my fault? No but I just checked the calgary mirror and it contains only some qt3 and qt4 packages, albeit under the heading of KDE. Still, there is no KDE window manager or other goodies there so if you really have KDE installed (which is available from http://sourceware.org/cygwinports/), you didn't get it from the Cygwin distribution, which is the main thing that Jon was pointing out. While you can't be held responsible for the state of software found on some mirror, it's also not fair to hold the Cygwin community responsible for software that it doesn't distribute. You want to go to the source for support in the case of packages that are outside the Cygwin distribution. Your issue requiring rebase is a known one. Unfortunately, it's hard to fix and it's not possible to predict which installations will have problems (though typically those with more packages and those containing packages from other sources will likely have more trouble). This isn't just a Cygwin-X issue though. It's a Cygwin issue in general. Anyway, I'm just clarifying some about what you saw rather than providing any silver bullets to address it. We're still looking for those silver bullets. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Bug or WAD? Midnight Commander F10 different in xterm than native or rxvt
On 7/8/2010 10:35 PM, Peter Farley wrote: I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question, but if it is not please advise me where to send it. Midnight Commander exits with F10, and in a native bash window or rxvt F10 exits to the last directory viewed. In an xterm though, it exits to the original directory from which MC was started. Do you think this a bug in MC or is it WAD? If you think it's a bug in MC I will gladly debug it myself, I just want to know if it's WAD for xterm's first. I am using a fresh cygwin + cygwin/X install on WinXP SP3, and I will supply the usual problem report documentation if needed to answer my question. Sorry, I don't know anything about MC really but isn't there some doc on it that describes what F10 is supposed to do? -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Slow response to keypresses in xorg-server-1.8.0-1
On 7/1/2010 4:49 PM, Leigh Orf wrote: Hi, just joined the list. I updated to the latest cygwin today and was having the same problem with X just freezing up in the background. Your fix did the trick. I am profoundly grateful, it was making me batty. Since I've never overwritten an installed binary with cygwin before, wondering whether I will run into any problems later when I need to update. I presume the binary from the patched code won't make it to the mirrors for a while? 'setup.exe' will dutifully update it when a new package with an updated version is available. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
On 6/30/2010 11:22 AM, Timares, Brian (Harris) wrote: What Mike and I want is actually pretty reasonable. We want to be able to preserve the work we do in picking the wheat from the chaff (from our point of view) to avoid having our coworkers or ourselves duplicate that work, whether they understand Unix or not (I'm sorry I brought it up! It is largely irrelevant.). It seems simple--at some point the Setup program knows what was selected. It just needs to save it out and be able to read it back in. As you mentioned in your follow-up, if what's already supported in 'setup.exe' doesn't meet your needs, you're welcome to modify it. There are several ways to grab a list of installed packages, as has been discussed already (assuming an installation exists at the time you're doing the grabbing). If you want to the dead-simple approach, then you need to use 'setup.exe' to manage and maintain your local installation. If you need to duplicate that installation elsewhere, you use the same installation directory and point 'setup.exe' to it instead of mirrors. Or you set up your own local mirror that you maintain with the packages and versions you want and point 'setup.exe' at that mirror only. Or you grab the output of 'cygcheck -cd' \ (or /etc/setup/installed.db directly) and gently message it to create script with calls 'setup.exe' with the list of packages you'd like from a mirror. Given all the existing options, it's worth your while to take a good look at them all and figure out what they give you and what they don't when matching them against what you need/want. You may find that the solution you want is simply an extension of something that's already there, saving you time and effort all around. If you decide to create a patch, those would go to the cygwin-apps list. Discussion of 'setup.exe' bugs and enhancements go to that list as well. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
On 6/29/2010 10:50 AM, Bradley, Mike wrote: Hi, All was good, till a couple weeks ago when I added some packages to cygwin, and several packages where also upgraded. Then xterm response time became very slow. I tried a second upgrade yesterday, and now I cannot even start an xterm, nor will startxwin start properly. This is a company computer which has Symantec anti-virus. I tried disabling that as well. Here is the most obvious symptom: % echo $DISPLAY 127.0.0.1:0.0 % /usr/bin/startxwin.exe waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . .. giving up. /usr/bin/startxwin: Socket type not supported (errno 124): unable to connect to X server /usr/bin/startxwin: No such process (errno 3): Server error. Notice the value of $DISPLAY above, which does not match whats in XWin.0.log (it has :0.0). No idea how/why that happens. Remove the DISPLAY setting. Update your installation (your cygwin package is out-of-date). You also have a couple of orphaned installations of Cygwin. Make sure those are all cleaned up/out. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
On 6/29/2010 6:56 PM, Bradley, Mike wrote: -Original Message- From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@... [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@...] On Behalf Of Larry Hall (Cygwin X) Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:40 PM To: cygwin-xf...@... Subject: Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR Also, there's nothing to be gained (and plenty to be lost) by including unneeded headers in your reply. Please consider removing them in future correspondences with the list. snip Remove the DISPLAY setting. Update your installation (your cygwin package is out-of-date). You also have a couple of orphaned installations of Cygwin. Make sure those are all cleaned up/out. Hi, In the past I have not found a good way to remember which packages where installed (e.g. non-default packages). Is there a file/way to run setup.exe so that a specified set of packages are installed? Not surprisingly, Chris got this right on the nose. It would be ludicrous for me to embellish. :-) snip (I have several times just run setup.exe, and it does seem to update some packages, but as you state, it is not completely clean) Actually, that's not what I meant at all. Your cygcheck output showed that you had, at one time, installed Cygwin to C:\cygwin and C:\cygwin\cygdrive, both of which are now ORPHANED, meaning that at least some (could be all) of the installation is now missing. You should make sure that the entire installation has been deleted in both places. Once that is true, you should run 'cygcheck --delete-orphaned-installation-keys' so that cygcheck will not report those directories anymore. This is something completely different from 'setup.exe' and its installation process. 'setup.exe' knows what it has installed and where and will maintain those packages (updating them as required and requested) whenever you run it. It cannot, however, maintain an installation if it has been removed or manipulated by other tools, which is what seems to have happened to your two orphaned installations. So you need to finish cleaning these up as I described above. It may simply be a bookkeeping exercise or it might be more than that. But it's worth checking out. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
On 6/30/2010 1:07 AM, Bradley, Mike wrote: OK, I removed my old cygwin installation (the directory which contains/usr, /bin/, etc.), and re-installed a new version. I kept the cygwin_package directory, but setup.exe did not remember my previous installation. In the past I have had to install cygwin on multiple machines, and it would be nice to learn a way to have a file which describes the packages I want to install, rather than having to recall them all. 'setup.exe' doesn't remember your previous installations - ones you have removed. There'd be little call for that kind of functionality. 'setup.exe' does allow you to install from a local directory though. So if you keep the directory that contained all the packages you've downloaded previously, you can point 'setup.exe' at this directory and tell it to install everything. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: startx doesn't run proprely
On 6/24/2010 11:58 PM, hakob...@ualberta.ca wrote: Dear Cygwin helper, After the startx command it doesn't open X terminal. In fact, it sometimes open Xterm sometimes not, givin the following error message: Welcom to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.99.901-4 Please, tell me what to do to get rid of the problem? Try upgrading from this very old, monolithic X server to the current version. Don't forget to check the announcement for details and helpful hints about this upgrade. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: How to remotly launch application with SSH and Cygwin/X server
On 2/26/2010 2:07 PM, __Ricardo__ wrote: X23G8c wrote: From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree- ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of __Ricardo__ Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:09 AM didn't help too :( I have Win XP SP2, under this system I had installed Cygwin 1.5 and launch GUI apps via ssh worked. Now I have Win XP SP2 too, but current Cygwin version is 1.7.1 - It doesn't work. You are trying to launch the Windows screen apps as the user that owns the screen, correct? Thanks, Mike Yes. I'll try to explain better: I'm log on to windows as e.g. User1, that is administrator user. When I start cygwin shell I can simply run: $notepad I see Notepad application correct launched, but If I do it this way: $ssh us...@localhost us...@localhost's password: Last login: Fri Feb 26 18:00:01 2010 from localhost us...@athlon ~ $ notepad I have notepad launched (I see it on process ) but it cannot draw correctly himself on the screen. The same behaviour was in Cygwin 1.5, but then sufficient thing to do was simply select SSHD service option: Allow service to interact with desktop, which was solve the problem. With Cygwins' 1.7 SSHD, selection this option does not take any effect, I have still this unexpected to me behaviour. There are more authentication options in 1.7 which may help: http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html#ntsec-setuid-overview However, I will say that you shouldn't get too used to this working, since MS removed the capability after XP. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Fatal error
On 6/9/2010 1:14 PM, marvin.man...@oracle.com wrote: I get the following fatal error with my windows xp machine. A fatal error has occurred and Cygwin/X will now exit. Please open /tmp/XWin.log for more information. Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.99.901-4 Time to upgrade. Go to cygwin.com and click on Install or update Cygwin now! -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: xterm no longer accepts keyboard input
On 5/6/2010 3:18 AM, Jyh-Shyong Ho wrote: I read a series of discussion on this problem, have you been able to solve this problem? http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-i-cant-type-anything -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: problem in openin xterm
On 4/23/2010 11:42 PM, hakob...@ualberta.ca wrote: Dear Cygwin expert, After installin cygwin on my laptop (vista) I have a problem in opening X window (xterm). After tryinmg several times it opens the xterm. Could you tell me the reason of this problem? Please read and follow the problem reporting guidelines described at the link below. Make sure that you *attach* (rather than append) your cygcheck output. Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: problems starting xterm
On 3/19/2010 9:09 AM, Markus Hoenicka wrote: $ xterm Xt error: Can't open display: xterm: DISPLAY is not set Do I have to set DISPLAY manually? And if yes, what should it read? For the mintty test case, yes, you need to set DISPLAY. Use this: export DISPLAY=:0.0 -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: What do the Cygwin passwd file entry sections mean?
On 3/5/2010 10:06 AM, scotch123 wrote: Hello, My apologies for the newbie question. I've been looking for an explanation of what each section of a Cygwin /etc/passwd/ user entry means, specifically the segments between the user name and the home directory and bash shell: corinna:unused:11001:11125:U-BAR\corinna,S-1-5-21-2913048732-1697188782-3448811101-1001:/home/corinna:/bin/tcsh I can't seem to find what the three things in the middle are. I want to write up a how-to for a co-worker that explains what each segment is before explaining how to change a user's home directory path from the Unix default to the Windows/Cygwin notation that goes to their webroot folder so they can use SFTP. If someone could explain, or direct me to an explanation, I'd be grateful. Wrong list. This is not a Cygwin-X question. Please send requests about Cygwin to the main list. Only questions, issues, or comments regarding Cygwin-X should go to this list. To answer your question, the main information for this you can get from Linux/UNIX sources: http://linux.die.net/man/5/passwd. The Cygwin-specific parts you can get from the Users Guide: http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html#ntsec-files -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Problem running Xwin.exe in Windows 7
On 3/2/2010 12:19 AM, Babak Fallah wrote: Dear Madam/Sir, I upgraded my OS from Windows XP to Windows 7 and installed the Cygwin/X but have problem running Xwin.exe in the new OS. Since it was running well in XP I changed the compatibility to Windows XP but it didn't help (my computer does not have Hardware-Assisted Virtualization so I can not run virtual machine on my PC). BZZT! Oh, I'm sorry. That was the wrong answer. :-) I was wondering if there is any way to fix the problem and run the Xwin.exe in Windows 7. The error window says: -- A fatal error has happened and Cygwin/X will now exit. Please open /var/log/XWin.0.log for more information. Vendor: The Cygwin/X project. Release 1.7.5.0 (10705000) contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Build date: 2010-02-25 X-Win was started with the following command line: (null) - Please read and follow the problem reporting guidelines found here: Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Also take a look at the FAQ for Cygwin-X and the recent archives. Many of the common problems have been hashed out there already and some good information is available to help you solve problems like this. If you're still not finding any joy, then make sure to provide a full problem report to the Cygwin-X list so that we know what you did and how your machine is configured. Remember, any files that you send should be *attached* and not appended to any follow-up email. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Help me
On 02/23/2010 01:10 PM, Skublics Benedek wrote: Dear Cygwin Team, I tried to install cygwin to use xfig. I do everithing that this page said: http://www.cs.usask.ca/~wew036/latex/xfig.html These instructions are out-of-date. Try contacting the author to get them updated to reflect the current state of Cygwin. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Again Problems starting xterm under win7]
On 02/19/2010 07:25 PM, Jerry Lowry wrote: is anyone seeing this or do I send it to myself each time. Nope, it goes to the list as you would expect: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2010-02/msg00111.html http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2010-02/msg00099.html If you're ever unsure, just check the email archives. That will answer it for you in a definitive way. As for your issue, I can say that I cannot reproduce it on Win7 x64. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Cygwin/X and Vista and UAC
http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#TOFU - Reformatted.
On 02/17/2010 09:46 AM, Dr. M. C. Nelson wrote:
-Original Message-
From: cygwin-xfree-owner at cygwin dot com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner at cygwin
dot com] On Behalf Of Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
^^^
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:00 PM
To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com
http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR - Thanks.
Subject: Re: Cygwin/X and Vista and UAC
On 02/16/2010 05:54 PM, Dr. M. C. Nelson wrote:
Okay, I agree we need better information. So, I think I want to start again
with a clean install. I understand that the procedure for removing cygwin is
to just delete everything. Does it create any registry entries that should
be deleted?
http://cygwin.com/faq/faq-nochunks.html#faq.setup.uninstall-all
There might be a very destructive error in the uninstall instructions:
3. Delete the Cygwin root folder and all subfolders.
The subfolders include /cygdrive/c/, etc.
I suppose it's possible to try to delete everything in Cygwin with Cygwin via
'rm -rf /' but it wouldn't be a success even if your observation wasn't an
issue. But I agree if someone tried to do just that, then this is a potential
danger. So the FAQ could be more clear/instructive on this count. Care to
offer a patch for the documentation?
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Re: Cygwin/X and Vista and UAC
On 02/16/2010 05:54 PM, Dr. M. C. Nelson wrote: Okay, I agree we need better information. So, I think I want to start again with a clean install. I understand that the procedure for removing cygwin is to just delete everything. Does it create any registry entries that should be deleted? http://cygwin.com/faq/faq-nochunks.html#faq.setup.uninstall-all -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: How to remotly launch application with SSH and Cygwin/X server
On 02/09/2010 06:31 PM, Fabien Tillay wrote: Hi, I've got a problem with Cygwin/X server (via Cygwin 1.7.1) Assuming we have a PC on Linux called X and a PC on Windows called Y. I want to send a SSH command from X to Y which launchs firefox on Y. (ie Windows) Firstly, if I go to Y (Windows) and launch a Cygwin shell and then enter the 'firefox' command (firefox is in the PATH environment variable of course), the Firefox is launched correctly and I can navigate to whatever I want. If I send a SSH command from X (Linux) to Y (Windows) with the firefox command : ssh usern...@y_ip_address firefox, I've got a firefox.exe process in the task manager of Y but Firefox is in the background (ie there is no Firefox window). I have set the DISPLAY environment variable to :0.0. No matter. Firefox on Windows knows nothing of X Windows anyway. No surprise, right? Do you know why it is launched in background ? Is there a mean of displaying Firefox launched from the Linux box on Windows ? Generally, no. Depending on the version of Windows and Cygwin you're running, you can go to the Control Panel-Administrative Tools-Services-Cygwin SSHD- Log On and enable Allow service to interact with desktop if you're already running the service with Local System. Pretty much for any other case, you can't do on Windows what you want to do. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Vista, new install, x server does not start, startxwin.bat missing
On 02/02/2010 08:18 PM, Dr. M. C. Nelson wrote: We installed cygwin/x on a new acer laptop (vista). The X server does not start from the icon, and the x server does not start from the command line startx Your XWin.0.log file indicates that the server is already started. This means the server is: 1. Already started. 2. Colliding with another server on the same ports (6000) 3. Blocked by a firewall. 'netstat' can be used to help you diagnose (2) if (1) and (3) aren't the problem. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: 1.7.1: no xdmcp login prompt after upgrade
On 01/21/2010 02:24 PM, Paxton, Michael wrote: Tony, Try installing from http://cygwin.com/win-9x.html to get version 1.5.25. Although it states it is only for supporting Windows 95/98/Me, it may work to get your functionality back. This is 1.5.25 as you noted and, as such, will work as well or as poorly as 1.5.25 always has. As a warning, 1.5.x doesn't have a great record on W7 machines. And I have to add the obligatory warning that 1.5.25 is a dead branch so you'll see no further development or bug fixes there. The take-away from this last statement is that you should keep an eye on 1.7.x and, to the extent possible, help resolve problems that you find there so you have an upgrade path if/when 1.5.25 lets you down. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: bug report/suggested temp. patch: handling bursts of sent keys
On 01/19/2010 01:17 PM, Mark Lillibridge wrote: Hi. I don't appear to have gotten any response to my message sent to this list January 12 (copied below). Do I have the right list? Am I supposed to use a different mechanism to report bugs with the Cygwin X server? Please help. Thanks for the information you've provided. This is the correct list for Cygwin X issues. I can't engage you on this topic because I'm not knowledgeable about the area you investigated. However, a couple of questions come to my mind about what you've found: 1. Is this Cygwin-specific? 2. If not, what's the upstream solution? This information might help you decide if your issue is better reported upstream. It may also help developers here decide how to solve the problem. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: X11 assertion fails
On 01/19/2010 01:22 PM, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote: Carl R. Crawford sent the following at Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:01 AM I just upgraded to the latest version of X11. A program that previously worked fine now reports the following error: Applications that do not use this toolkit work fine. I did not recompile the xview library. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. As I understand it, applications compiled under cygwin 1.5 need to be recompiled for the current version, 1.7, which is what you have. This is not a requirement, though it is a recommendation. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Fwd: Can't start X after upgrading to cygwin1.7
On 01/16/2010 12:56 PM, Andrew Senior wrote: I've had cygwin installed for a year on my Thinkpad T61, running Windows XP professional, and just ran the latest setup.exe from cygwin.com. At installation time there were some complaints about in use files, http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2010-01/msg00686.html -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: cygwin-x xterm not compatible with windows 7?
On 12/07/2009 06:13 PM, Mike Ayers wrote: I'm asking because what I have noticed about Windows 7 Home Edition is that even though I have created a user for myself with administrative priveleges, unless I tell the OS that I want to run a program as the administrator it will default to the privileges for an ordinary user. I don't know a way to turn this off, yet. I don't believe there is a workaround, unfortunately. Vista has the same issue. Isn't this just UAC? You can turn that off for a user if you want. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: 1.7 - what's the right way to start X?
On 12/03/2009 04:07 PM, Fredrik Staxeng wrote: What is the recommended/preferred way to start X in 1.7? In 1.5 I used a modified version of startxwin.bat. And where do I put my .xinitrc/.xsession script? What about startxwin.bat doesn't work for you? There shouldn't be differences between 1.5 and 1.7 here. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: xterm doesn't open on start
On 12/03/2009 10:47 PM, Timares, Brian (Harris Corp.) wrote: I do appreciate all the terrific replies--I've been on the net for awhile and this is one of the friendliest lists I've been on. Do you mind if I frame this and hang it on the Cygwin home page. ;-) -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: [OT] Mailing list problems
On 12/01/2009 12:29 PM, Mike Ayers wrote: Apologies for sending this to the list, but I could not find the answer on the web pages. I'm having a few quirks with the mailing list that I'd like to ask the postmaster about, but I can't find a contact point. Does anyone know of one? Did you try postmaster? Otherwise, I'd recommend trying the list owner as described here: http://sourceware.org/lists.html#unsubscribe-desperate -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: psexec does not work under cygwin-X
On 11/20/2009 04:45 AM, Hemal Pandya wrote: Hello, It seems psexec (from sysinternals) does not work correctly under cygwin-X. If I run it at the bash prompt in a command window it completes normally but from a rxvt or xterm window it stops after the first line of output from the remote process. And does it have the same problem if you set tty in your CYGWIN enviroment variable - see http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-cygwinenv.html? Sounds like the same old Win32-program-not-understanding-PTYs issue. Check the Cygwin archives for more. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Can't read lock file
On 11/11/2009 02:40 AM, Fergus wrote: Q4 Why are questions about X specifically directed to a different mailing list? Apart from occasional high-frequency dialogue as at present, posts about X are (or seem to me to be) no more frequent than posts about grep or ls or chmod or ... . The main Cygwin list has a much higher readership and posts directed there might generate many useful hints, tips, experiences, fixes or even solutions? Except in the cases where the issue at hand just looks like a X problem but is instead a Cygwin problem, I don't see that being on a separate list minimizes the knowledgeable readership. That is, unless those with X background don't know about the Cygwin-X list. But if that's the case, they may not really fall into the knowledgeable category. ;-) And in the case where it is a Cygwin vs a X problem, these questions get redirected to the main list AFAICS when appropriate. I believe the original intent was to keep X separated from the high volume of the regular list rather than the other way around. The last time this question came up, the consensus supported that notion. Of course, things could change in the future. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: release scheduling, cygwin 1.7 et al (was Re: X11R7.5 fontcache..)
On 11/04/2009 05:05 PM, Linda Walsh wrote: I saw support for dual installations in a recent announcement on Cygwin's main list. I've also seen quite a few problems reported against 1.7 in the compatibility department, but I realize that gives no indication of the number of users who don't have problems. The announced wasn't clear if the dual installation support was backwards compatible to 1.5. It's been possible to install and run Cygwin 1.7 alongside 1.5 since, well, for quite a long time. This was seen as a requirement for package maintainers to start making the move to 1.7 (though it isn't a strict requirement that they do so). The announcement that you saw about multiple cygwin1.dlls with 1.7 means that this flexibility has been extended to any 1.7.x version as well. So, start dropping 1.7 cygwin1.dlls all over your disk. It's time to spread the joy! ;-) As for compatibility, that's in the eye of the beholder. But I haven't seen anything yet that I consider a show-stopper, especially considering that 1.5 is still going to be there for anyone that can't tolerate 1.7 for some reason. But that's just my opinion. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Problem installing cygwin/X on vista sp2 64bit
On 11/02/2009 03:11 PM, Massimo Giovannini wrote: Hi, I think I managed to obtain the cygcheck.out, which I attached after having added C:\cygwing\bin to the path of windows. Yes I am not an expert of unix and I am sorry, but I need this application to run Matlab on a cluster in interactive fashion. So do you just need the X server? Perhaps a pure Win32 one would be easier for you. See http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/. Another question: normally when I launched cygwin on my old laptop, there was a prompt telling my working directory, now I just get bash-3.2, why is that? Same reason as all the other problems. Your postinstall scripts didn't run. I don't see any clear indicaton why these would fail given your cygcheck output. Are you sure that the Lenovo Client Security Solution isn't getting in your way (i.e. http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#BLODA)? That's all I can see/think of. If that's not it, you may find that you can either: 1. Just re-run 'setup.exe' again and it could fix what it tripped over the last time. 2. Try 1.7 instead. http://cygwin.com/#beta-test -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Cygwin X query Solaris Login page reloads
On 11/02/2009 11:36 AM, BharathX wrote: Is there nobody who could help me? We're sorry. All of our agents are currently helping other posters. Your post is very important to us. Please hang on and someone will be with you shortly! Where have I heard this before? ;-) Sorry, I can't help you but I'm sure if there's someone here who can, they'll respond when they have a moment. Remember, this mailing list is run by volunteers so it can take some time for someone with the expertise you need to read and respond to your post. In the meantime, you can help them help you by reading and following the problem reporting guidelines found here: http://cygwin.com/problems.html -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Problem installing cygwin/X on vista sp2 64bit
On 11/01/2009 01:41 PM, Massimo Giovannini wrote: 2009/11/01 12:38:38 running: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -c /etc/postinstall/terminfo0.sh 2009/11/01 12:40:16 abnormal exit: exit code=128 This is your problem. The postinstall scripts are failing. Are you installing with administrator privileges? If not, doing so may help. Otherwise, you can try running the command above from the command line and see if you get more insight into why it failed. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Problem installing cygwin/X on vista sp2 64bit
On 11/01/2009 06:18 PM, Massimo Giovannini wrote: Yes I am using admin privileges. I tried to use startrun C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -c/etc/postinstall/terminfo0.sh But nothing happens (actually a black window opens for a second and then it closes)... Any idea? Open a console window (cmd.exe) and type the following: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -x -c /etc/postinstall/terminfo0.sh -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Problem installing cygwin/X on vista sp2 64bit
http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#TOFU On 11/01/2009 07:33 PM, Massimo Giovannini wrote: -Original Message- From: cygwin-xfree-owner [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner...] On Behalf Of Larry Hall (Cygwin X) ^ Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:20 PM To: cygwin-xfree... http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR Don't feed the spammers. Thanks. Subject: Re: Problem installing cygwin/X on vista sp2 64bit On 11/01/2009 06:18 PM, Massimo Giovannini wrote: Yes I am using admin privileges. I tried to use startrun C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -c/etc/postinstall/terminfo0.sh But nothing happens (actually a black window opens for a second and then it closes)... Any idea? Open a console window (cmd.exe) and type the following: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -x -c /etc/postinstall/terminfo0.sh Here is what I get... C:\Users\MassimoC:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -x -c /etc/postinstall/terminfo0.sh + /etc/postinstall/terminfo0.sh /usr/bin/bash: /etc/postinstall/terminfo0.sh: No such file or directory My WAG is either more didn't install for some reason (such that you don't have this file) or you are suffering from http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#BLODA or http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#3PP. Please *attach* your cygcheck output as requested by http://cygwin.com/problems.html. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Problem installing cygwin/X on vista sp2 64bit
Hm, let's see. Last time, among other things, I pointed you at: http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#TOFU and http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR I suppose ignoring the first is only a minor politeness infraction but the latter is rather rude. Please be considerate in your posts. Thanks. On 11/01/2009 08:10 PM, Massimo Giovannini wrote: Bash: cygcheck: command not found. If you chose the default installation path for Cygwin, it's in C:\bin. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Problem installing cygwin/X on vista sp2 64bit
On 11/01/2009 10:35 PM, Massimo Giovannini wrote: Sorry,it is my first time on this website, and I did not understand those links were for me...I thought it was some sort of signature. Everything seems complicated here and also the language seems very cryptic.. Acronyms are certainly cryptic, until you understand them. I do go out of my way to actually provide the links to them when I use them, as you noticed. I went on the bin directory cd C:/cygwin/bin, I typed cygcheck -s -v -r and still it says command not found. I manually went in the directory and the file seems to be there.. I'm getting the feeling that you're not used to Unix/Linux or command-line oriented environments. If that's the case, you may want to rethink about using Cygwin or look up a tutorial or two on Unix/Linux to help you get oriented. The reason what you typed didn't work is because you are in a directory which isn't in your path and you didn't say where to find 'cygcheck'. You need to do one of the following: 1. Use the fully qualified path (i.e. c:\bin\cygcheck.exe) 2. Use the relative path to specify the current directory (i.e. .\cygcheck.exe) 3. Add c:\bin to your Windows path so you don't have to do either of 1 or 2. The funny thing is that also ls does not work.. See above. Same problem. (I deleted all the old messages...is it ok ? I don't understand what I should do with the TOFU problem..) Deleting everything can be fine, if there's no critical context. TOFU, in general, is meant to indicate that it's preferable to trim out anything that isn't helpful context in your reply and to reply in-line and/or after any context you keep. In other words, what I'm doing. ;-) -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: X11R7.5 fontcache..
On 10/29/2009 11:56 PM, Linda Walsh wrote: Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#RSN :-) --- I don't suppose you could express that in ISO format? :-) Since you've asked this on multiple lists, I'm going to assume this is more than just a humorous comment that you don't expect an answer to. Cygwin 1.7 will be released as soon as it's ready. There is no specific date at this time. That's not a reason not to use it however, if you prefer. And if you need something that's only on 1.7, this is a good time to try it out. And since you can install 1.7 beside 1.5 if you like, your risk of borking your Cygwin installation is pretty minimal. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: 1.5.25-15: 100% CPU under xdmcp and Gnome
On 10/27/2009 06:21 PM, Quinn wrote: I am running Cygwin-X on Windows XP, connecting to a Gentoo workstation via xdmcp. If I connect to a session running Gnome one processor on my Windows machine spikes to 100% usage and stays there. Memory use appears to remain constant and the X-session is responsive. The CPU doesn't spike while GDM is active, just while the Gnome session is active. snip Any interest in trying Cygwin 1.7 http://cygwin.com/#beta-test? I don't know if it would help but it has a newer X and friends and is actively maintained. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: How to open a standalone xterm
On 10/27/2009 11:02 PM, Joel Gwynn wrote: So it looks like if I first start up the multiwindow window manager like so: xwin -multiwindow, then I can run xterm, but I have to specify the display. What's the typical way of automating this? startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: xterm key repeat problem
On 09/09/2009 08:56 PM, coo...@dog.net wrote: I have an unusual problem that only occurs when I run my HP laptop in the XB4 docking station. I run startxwin.bat and the xterm window starts but there is a repeating b that I cannot stop. If I unplug the Expansion port 3 cable from the laptop the repeating characters stop. Does this happen with any other terminal type or console? For the latter, does it happen if you run cygwin.bat? -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: start xterm automatically
On 09/09/2009 09:47 PM, andreaphus wrote: I'd like to set it so that when I run cygwin it automatically launches an xterm shell but Im having problems. I normally run cygwin and then run startxwin.bat (which works fine). I can not just put startxwin.bat in .bash_profile because it will loop opening shells (it resourced .bash_profile everytime which in turns opens a new xterm). I thought this might because the xterm I was opening up in startxwin.bat was a login shell but I changed the xterm command from -ls to +ls (a non login shell, and thus it should not resource .bash_profile but it still does). Ideally I want to run cygwin, have it automatically open a login xterm shell, and then auto close the cygwin shell. I assume you're starting Cygwin with cygwin.bat. How do you start that? Is there a reason you cannot start startxwin.bat the same way? -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: ssh config
On 8/18/2009 1:46 PM, Mike Ayers wrote: Well that was it, thanks, but why is ssh looking there? I thought it (and all other apps) used HOME on cygwin? Nope. But if you think about it, if $HOME doesn't equal ~ for Cygwin, something has gone awry. Given that as context, it really wouldn't matter whether '/etc/passwd' or $HOME was the source. -- Larry -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: cygwin-xfree Digest 18 Aug 2009 22:10:38 -0000 Issue 2688
On 8/18/2009 6:57 PM, Harry Zisko wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:10 PM,cygwin-xfree-digest-help at cygwin dot com wrote: cygwin-xfree Digest 18 Aug 2009 22:10:38 - Issue 2688 snip Harry, Any reason you chose to spam this list with your digest and expose raw email addresses for spam harvesters? -- Larry -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Is there a Windows clipboard manager that doesn't clash with -clipboard parameter?
On 07/29/2009 09:39 AM, Ed Gatzke wrote: Alister Hoodalister.hoodat synergine.com writes: Hi, I've found that -clipboard clashes with Windows clipboard history managers such as Ditto. Does anybody know of a clipboard manager with which it does work? I have had awful troubles using XWin with -clipboard. I don't think I am doing anything odd with the XP clipboard AFAIK. Using -clipboard crashes various applications (tgif) and gives performance issues in others (LyX) I tried a re-install for xwin but it seems to give me the version from February, 1.5.3.0 (20090222) Looking at the package list for cygwin, it appears the xwin package is obsolete? The 'xorg-server' package, which contains 'XWin.exe', is not obsolete. The current version is 1.5.3, package revision #5. See here - http://cygwin.com/packages/xorg-server/xorg-server-1.5.3-5 -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: X11 server
Pietro Federico Bianchi wrote: I'm trying to install x11 for Windows but the site ask me for a Server Authorization Password Why. Do I have to register something somewhere?? Cygwin-X requires no authorization password. Please read and follow the problem reporting guidelines found at the URL below. Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: [1.7] XWin still fails with SunOS 10
jose isaias cabrera wrote: snip By the way, this is the same problem that the previous version of cygwin had. But, since Mr. Turney said to give it a try with the new version, I did. :-) Is this going to ever be fixed? Nah. It's been there so long that it feels like an old friend. Getting rid of an old friend would... well, that would just be wrong! And, of course, if you don't agree, you're stuck. After all, we have the source and you don't... wait a minute. Ah, never mind. ;-) -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: fastpath 0 - xterm?
Tom Roche wrote: Tom Roche Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 02:29:30PM -0400 Since I'm not seeing this in the FAQ, I wanted to propose the following item: what would be required to go from zero to xterm? I.e. from a Cygwin-less windows box (windows = 2k) to getting a Cygwin/X xterm up on one's screen? Christopher Faylor Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:45:18 -0400 You do understand what the F in FAQ stands for, right? I suspect folks frequently ask, Just how much pain will this involve? You may have noted that other projects frequently seek to demonstrate how easy it is to setup and do some simple task. That may well be true but the guideline we use for Cygwin is how often a question comes up on the list. If a question doesn't come on the list or doesn't come up often, that doesn't mean it's not a valid question or wouldn't be a good thing to document somewhere (like perhaps the User's Guide). It just means that it hasn't passed the test to make it into the FAQ. We'd like the FAQ to be targeted so that it's not overwhelming to look through when trying to find a quick answer to a common question. Certainly one could argue that it's already passed that point but if one did make that argument, it would be a reason for trimming the FAQ of things that aren't deemed necessary anymore rather than expanding its charter. ;-) -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Problem starting X as user
Michael Winkler wrote: Hi, I installed cygwin today and I have problems is starting X as a user. Installation was done as Admin - and I can open X-Windows shells and programs as administrator. But when I try the same as Windows user I get error messages. Unfortunately, my UNIX knowledge is quite outdated - but I guess it might be a problem with user rights. I tried chmod 1777 /tmp but that didn't help. Before I search for ages - maybe someone knows a quick solution. Thanks, Michael XWin.0.log reads: Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 1.5.3.0 (20090222) Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: /usr/bin/XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning Fatal server error: Could not create server lock file: /tmp/.X0-lock The FAQ is your friend: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-cant-read-lock-file -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: X server fails to start on Vista
Kim Goldov wrote: I downloaded Cygwin-X per the instructions in http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-x-installing.html When selecting Cygwin-X - XWin Server in the start menu, X does not start and I get the following /var/log/XWin.0.log ... /usr/bin/XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running Fatal server error: Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running And you're sure there is no X-server running already? Is there an icon for it in the right corner of the task bar? -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: about X
samuel wrote: Hi. I have just installed xinit on my vista laptop. When I typed in 'xinit' in the cygwin console, I got a BIG BIG annoying X window which occupied all the space of my desktop and cannot be resized. When I started other programs in xterm, the new program just covered up the space where xterm used to be and I couldn't switch back to the xterm windows. How can I get a clean and separate xterm window? Thank you. Use startxwin.[bat|sh], depending on your shell. If you're not familiar with how Cygwin-X works, you could benefit by taking a look at the documentation. There's a good walk-through of the install and basics for getting started. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: -query not working on cygwin/windows
km4hr wrote: I've found an article on the internet that explains http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842242 how to open ports in Windows. I'll try it tomorrow even though I don't know if it's necessary. If you are confident that you turned the Windows firewall off and you have no other firewalls or other security software installed on this machine, then you don't need to follow this prescription to test X. In order to run X properly with the firewall on, following the article wouldn't be a bad idea if you need help when doing the firewall configuration. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: X / gtk-x11 / flicker and other problems [+PATCH]
John Emmas wrote: Jon - I just realised that I don't seem to have the source for X11 (which is presumably what I need before applying your patch). I've looked on my usual Cygwin mirror (ftp://mirrors.xmission.com) as well as looking in Cygwin-Ports (ftp://sourceware.org) but I couldn't see what I needed to download. Should I have found the source code on one of the mirrors? Are you downloading the source with 'setup.exe'? If not, run it and select the 'Src?' box. You may be to re-install the package(s) in order to see this box (assuming you already have the current version.) -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: can't start xterm
Jeffrey A Delinck wrote: I did one thing to my startxwin.bat file to make it work. I commented out the set commands thus: rem SET XAPPLRESDIR= rem SET XCMSDB= rem SET XKEYSYMDB= rem SET XNLSPATH= I am not sure if this is what really made it work because it didn't work with the startxwin.sh command, either. However, it might be related to a residual of these being defined Known issue. See the FAQ entry: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-i-cant-type-anything -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Bug in startXwin.bat
Linda Walsh wrote: The startxwin.sh script works, but startxwin.bat does not work if your Cygwin installation isn't in the default location. You could use mount -p (presuming your cygwin\bin is in your windows path, as mine is). If not, need to look in the registry: \HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\cygdrive prefix No, you don't need to look in the registry. There's nothing there that 'mount' won't tell you. Forget about the registry. You'll be better off, especially when Cygwin 1.7 is released. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Bug in startXwin.bat
Linda Walsh wrote: Larry Hall (Cygwin X) wrote: Linda Walsh wrote: The startxwin.sh script works, but startxwin.bat does not work if your Cygwin installation isn't in the default location. You could use mount -p (presuming your cygwin\bin is in your windows path, as mine is). If not, need to look in the registry: \HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\cygdrive prefix No, you don't need to look in the registry. There's nothing there that 'mount' won't tell you. Forget about the registry. You'll be better off, especially when Cygwin 1.7 is released. - Um...you sure about that? how do you run 'mount' if you don't know what the cygdrive prefix is? Linda, please don't run the same thread on two different lists. If you want to talk about this here, kill the thread that you started on the main list. As for the answer to your question, I'm quite sure about my answer and have pointed out the flaw in your question in the thread on the main list. I expect that we're done with the threads on both lists now? -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Bug in startXwin.bat
Linda Walsh wrote: Larry Hall (Cygwin X) wrote: Linda Walsh wrote: Larry Hall (Cygwin X) wrote: Linda Walsh wrote: The startxwin.sh script works, but startxwin.bat does not work if your Cygwin installation isn't in the default location. You could use mount -p (presuming your cygwin\bin is in your windows path, as mine is). If not, need to look in the registry: \HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\cygdrive prefix No, you don't need to look in the registry. There's nothing there that 'mount' won't tell you. Forget about the registry. You'll be better off, especially when Cygwin 1.7 is released. - Um...you sure about that? how do you run 'mount' if you don't know what the cygdrive prefix is? Linda, please don't run the same thread on two different lists. If you want to talk about this here, kill the thread that you started on the main list. Larry -- The reason I changed forums was that the TOPIC/SUBJECT changed. This is perfectly reasonable, except you kept both threads running. It went from my finding a bug in the Cygwin Xserver's startxwin.bat script (something appropriate for the cygwin-xfree list) to a more general question of how one would solve the problem of finding the cygwin prefix in a windows batchfile. Actually, that's not the question you asked, though I'll concede that this is what you meant to ask. And I answered that on the main list. For completeness, I'll paraphrase it here - there's no good way. Just because you can't answer the question without circular logic is no reason to get upset. While other statements of yours have been understandable, even if they were in error, this one makes no sense so I won't respond to it. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Saving all xterm output to a file
teddybouch wrote: Jon TURNEY wrote: If you really want to prove this is an xterm issue (which seems unlikely to me as this really revolves about what bash is doing), you should compare the behaviour between running the command under an xterm and running it under some other terminal emulator (e.g. the 'cygwin bash shell' menu shortcut which starts bash inside the native 'DOS window') I'm not really partial to proving that this is an xterm issue - I just want to get it working the way I need it to. Right after I write this email I'm going to make another version of my control program that writes directly to a file and see if that will give me everything that I need. I took your advice and tried it under the cygwin bash shell and got the same problem, so I assume that it's not an xterm issue, but as you suggest, a bash issue. If this isn't the place to find help for that, could someone direct me to the correct venue, please? For non-X issues, you want the main Cygwin list. But before jotting off a note there, see below. As to the issue of changing output, I'm sorry that the parameters for the different results were ambiguous. The input was the same for all of them. The change in output is not a progressive thing - it's just that sometimes the printf statements in my code get written to the specified file and other times they do not. Interestingly enough, the printf statements in the portion of the code that I didn't write do get output consistently. They are each followed by called to fflush(stdout) - might this have something to do with it? This has _everything_ to do with it. You're obviously suffering from buffered I/O. Employ the same technique as you've found in other areas and I expect your program will output everything like you expect when you expect it. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Saving all xterm output to a file
teddybouch wrote: That's it! If I just throw some of the fflush commands in here and there in strategic places, I get all the output I am looking for up to those statements. Why would this be needed sometimes and not others? It's always needed if you must have output at a particular point in the execution. If that's not a requirement, then it shouldn't be necessary since the buffer should be flushed at normal program end. If that's not happening, that suggests something in your program is holding the stdout handle open, it has set the buffer size to something extraordinarily large, or you've triggered a bug. If you believe it's a bug, please create a simple test case in C that demonstrates the problem. Send it to the Cygwin list with an explanation of the problem. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font
Rajesh Advani wrote: If someone can tell me how to retrieve a list of all installed packages on my system,... This link is a hint: Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html But if you just want a list (with versions), cygcheck -cd is what you're looking for. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: How do you upgrade to XR117
jchas5 wrote: I have been looking through the cygwin mirrors for the last two days trying to find the X11R7 packages via setup.exe. When I go to the X11 tab, I can not find any X11R7 packages. I have tried to install them twoce and all I get is X11R6. Sorry if this a lame question, I just do know where to look, google doesn't seem to provide any specific advice other than use the cygwin setup.exe file and it will update automatically. I'm afraid that really covers it. What makes you think that you're not getting upgraded? What mirror are you using? In case it helps, here's one of the announcements about the new X11R7: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/2008-11/msg0.html You can review the X announcements email list for other announcements/ details if you like/need. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: wrong user path parsing /usr/bin/startx ?
Bouat, Jerome wrote: Hello, After updating cygwin, I'm not able to start X. --- bo...@rfideleg99 /cygdrive $ startx /usr/bin/startx: line 37: [: too many arguments /usr/bin/startx: line 106: [: too many arguments xauth: (argv):1: unknown command and\ giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. rm: cannot remove `/cygdrive/c/Documents\\': Is a directory Have you reviewed the FAQs for upgrading? http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#modular -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 429-6305 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
