Re: If this be terrorism make the most of it!

2002-12-09 Thread Sunder
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote: Siliness, compounded. Show me a law about obligatory cameras in cybercafes. It's silly now. A few years back, the spook said that the NSA doesn't spy on US citizens and won't because that was not its charter.

Re: If this be terrorism make the most of it!

2002-12-09 Thread Sunder
Yeah, well terrorists use condoms and wear clothes too, so those are terrorist tools also, so we should run around naked and have unprotected sex just so we don't help the terrorists. Also, terrorists don't jump off cliffs like lemmings, so we should do that too.

Re: If this be terrorism make the most of it!

2002-12-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Got Reichstag? Mmh, smells like victory.

Re: If this be terrorism make the most of it!

2002-12-09 Thread attila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Phone booths already don't accept calls, by State Fiat. You think detecting and dropping modem calls from a CO is tough? It's just a matter of designing a (software ?) modem that will, instead of whisling and peeping, emulate soccer mom

Re: If this be terrorism make the most of it!

2002-12-09 Thread Major Variola (ret)
There was an article in the press a month or so ago about some town that was trying hard to restrict cybercafe hours, because of gang activity there - I'm not sure how much of it's just the same nonsense that tried to restrict video-game parlors, and how much of it's because the local bullies

Re: If this be terrorism make the most of it!

2002-12-08 Thread Dave Emery
On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 10:56:14AM -0800, Morlock Elloi wrote: But we will always have phone booths and acoustic couplers. Not around Boston. I got attacked by a script kiddie with the kloged trojan on Thanksgiving morning at 5 AM and had occasion to need to make a couple of out of

Re: If this be terrorism make the most of it!

2002-12-07 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 09:31 AM, Steve Schear wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,56742,00.htmlhttp:// www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,56742,00.html Feds Label Wi-Fi a Terrorist Tool By Paul Boutin SANTA CLARA, California -- Attention, Wi-Fi users: The Department

Re: If this be terrorism make the most of it!

2002-12-07 Thread Morlock Elloi
This, with obligatory cameras in cybercafes, is just plugging the anonymity holes. Also, one of unmentioned consenquences is that any security will make self-organising networks harder to implement. Guess who benefits. But we will always have phone booths and acoustic couplers. = end (of

Re: If this be terrorism make the most of it!

2002-12-07 Thread Steve Schear
At 10:56 AM 12/7/2002 -0800, Morlock Elloi wrote: This, with obligatory cameras in cybercafes, is just plugging the anonymity holes. I haven't noticed any cameras in my neighborhood cafes. If they do install them you can usually stand outside and use the link. Also, one of unmentioned

Re: If this be terrorism make the most of it!

2002-12-07 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 10:56 AM 12/7/02 -0800, Morlock Elloi wrote: This, with obligatory cameras in cybercafes, is just plugging the anonymity holes. Yep. Also, one of unmentioned consenquences is that any security will make self-organising networks harder to implement. Guess who benefits. But we will always