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I intend to adopt doc-linux-ja, Japanese version of doc-linux.
The reason to adopt is that Colin Watson is also written as follows:
Martin Michlmayr orphaned Marco Budde's packages today, as they don't
appear to have been actively maintained for quite some time.
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:35:48PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote:
Now the server can only mail notifications to all packages or to no
packages. Should I stop it?
Comments?
The way I see your current proposals, such notifications will
/eventually/ be necessary because maintainers will
On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:15:44 -0500, David Starner wrote:
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 10:40:09PM +0200, Claes Andersson wrote:
There are many issues with fonts. As far as I know, no good truetype
fonts can be directly distributed with debian.
It might be useful for people who look at free fonts
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Colin == Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Colin Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In my search for a perfect offline IMAP client(TM) I have
looked at isync vs mailsync.
Colin What's wrong with Gnus? Perhaps with the Agent?
At 05 Sep 2001 09:43:09 +1000,
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Colin Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In my search for a perfect offline IMAP client(TM) I have
looked at isync vs mailsync.
Colin What's wrong with Gnus? Perhaps with the Agent? I admit
Colin I've
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit
This isn't a matter of not using it, it's a matter of a sane base
install. Perhaps base-config could ask if the user wants locales. Know
what? That question is being asked in english _anyway_.
Having a few well-known questions asked in English
A Mennucc1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit
arch=w32
arch64= w64
pro: it has been proposed by many parts (and actually it was my
second-nearly-first choice); no trademark problems
con: I think it is not so appealing to the layuser; and
I dont like the arch64 - arch
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:19:01PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit
This isn't a matter of not using it, it's a matter of a sane base
install. Perhaps base-config could ask if the user wants locales. Know
what? That question is being asked in
Nick Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit
What is the size of all this? Ok. we have now in sid/main/i386 (see
[2]) 7000 Packages and the descriptions of all this packages is
2660993 bytes big. We get a description size per package of 384 bytes.
With gzip we will get
Previously Michael Bramer wrote:
Maybe I have on next WE more time and I can improve the server and
make this notification mail configable per package and someone can
remove his packages from the notification process.
No, make it opt-in and don't sent them by defaulot.
Wichert.
--
Previously Martin Michlmayr wrote:
Since this should probably be by-package and not by-maintainer, how
about a field in debian/control?
It has nothing to do with package metadata and does not belong there.
Wichert.
--
_
/
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 01:02:34AM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
However, I'm not sure I agree that a backup is totally
useless in the case of celestia. What happens if you're on vacation,
woody is released tomorrow and a RC bug is filed on celestia today and
noone cares to upload a fixed
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Despite these problems, Gnus is the only program I have seen that will
highlight replies to my mail, something I find very valuable in large
mailing lists like this one.
color index red black ~t [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ~x scrooge.chocbit.org.au
or
Vociferous == Vociferous Mole [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
doesn't look like it to me:
[503] [pluto:bam] ~ LANG=en_AU:en_GB dia
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Vociferous From another message (in one of the numerous
Vociferous translated
Marcelo == Marcelo E Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Despite these problems, Gnus is the only program I have seen
that will highlight replies to my mail, something I find very
valuable in large mailing lists like this one.
Marcelo
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:01:45PM +0300, Ari Makela wrote:
Ok. I'm sorry. I misunderstood, I read that too quickly - my mistake,
No problem.
of course. Because I was rude in public so I want to apologize in
public, too. I'm sorry.
I did not think your mail was being rude. No need to
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 10:27:49AM +0200, Dominik Kubla wrote:
Oh that will work fine with CUPS. But i am not convinced that you want
this. How to administer printers with System V commands is pretty much
standard in the Unix world. dpkg-reconfigure is not.
Okay, accepted. My main problem is
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 11:10:28AM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote:
Well, that's also a possible method for adding a printer. Do you get any
error messages then on the console or in the logfiles beneath
/var/log/cups?
Nothing except the one I posted here.
Hm, do you need the cupsomatic-ppd
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:04:10PM +0200, Tille, Andreas wrote:
By the way: That lpadmin does not work seems to be a bug but a feature -
at least I had the same result as you. :-((
The web frontend worked for me after some fiddling around (not after
the plain install).
So this looks like a
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Michael Bramer wrote:
OH, this is now the second 'remove me' request.
Now the server can only mail notifications to all packages or to no
packages. Should I stop it?
Comments?
Example for a procmail rule in the information part?
Kind regards
Andreas.
retitle 110938 ITA: doc-linux-ja -- Linux HOWTOs in Japanese
merge 110938 111274
thanks
* GOTO Masanori [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20010905 10:17]:
I intend to adopt doc-linux-ja, Japanese version of doc-linux.
The reason to adopt is that Colin Watson is also written as follows:
Marco Budde
hi
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:42:02PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
A Mennucc1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit
hey, I like this ^^
Do you study latin?
arch=w32
arch64= w64
pro: it has been proposed by many parts (and actually it was my
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
Since this should probably be by-package and not by-maintainer, how
about a field in debian/control? (I'm not sure it really belongs
there, but there were some advantages if it were there; e.g. it can
easily be controlled by the maintainer.)
If this
On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Radovan Garabik wrote:
I have yet to meet a person who would ever need a slovak locale.
Nobody cares at all (collate order? who needs that? Different
format of numbers? This is not only unneeded, but even harmful.
Different format of date? Who cares.. Gettext? Maybe, but
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 01:02:34AM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
useless in the case of celestia. What happens if you're on vacation,
woody is released tomorrow and a RC bug is filed on celestia today and
noone cares to upload a fixed package? Similarly, if you were really
busy for a
On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Santiago Vila wrote:
I never asked for a debconf interface (I explained in the bug report
But why not following Grisus suggestion?
In my opinion the problem is an obvious target for a debconf solution.
The user has just to press Enter one times:
Do you want locales
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:12:06AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:19:01PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit
This isn't a matter of not using it, it's a matter of a sane base
install. Perhaps base-config could ask if the
#include hallo.h
Jørgen Hermanrud Fjeld wrote on Tue Sep 04, 2001 um 09:44:24PM:
Are there any plans to have kernel 2.4.x boot-disks for testing?
If there are/aren't could someone point me to more information about this,
woes, obstacles, etc.
The current kernel scheme is attached. For i386,
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 11:45:38AM +1000, The Nose Who Knows wrote:
What would be the best way of approaching these people who may find that
Free licenses are the best way to distribute their work? If we find
that fontographers are interested, we may gain a lot of good quality
work quite
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Michael Meskes wrote:
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:04:10PM +0200, Tille, Andreas wrote:
By the way: That lpadmin does not work seems to be a bug but a feature -
at least I had the same result as you. :-((
The web frontend worked for me after some fiddling around (not
I see that there are a lot of old bugs in ifupdown, some of which
include patches. Are you having trouble working on this package?
Could you use some help?
--
David N. Welton
Free Software: http://people.debian.org/~davidw/
Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/
Personal:
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 07:03:42AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Michael Bramer wrote:
Maybe I have on next WE more time and I can improve the server and
make this notification mail configable per package and someone can
remove his packages from the notification process.
No,
On 01-09-04 Nick Phillips wrote:
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:06:04PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
I don't expect most maintainers to be able or inclined to keep track of
a shedload of different translations, and those who are that keen should
May I ask if you are aware about the ongoing
On 01-09-04 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Michael Bramer wrote:
Maybe I have on next WE more time and I can improve the server and
make this notification mail configable per package and someone can
remove his packages from the notification process.
You didn't already?
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 05:40:25PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Michael Bramer wrote:
A proper solution, at the very least, invovles storing the data in the
foo.deb{control.tar.gz/control} file.
gettext is not a hack. Gettext for translations and dpkg use gettext
is
#include hallo.h
Tille, Andreas wrote on Wed Sep 05, 2001 um 10:33:43AM:
In my opinion the problem is an obvious target for a debconf solution.
The user has just to press Enter one times:
Do you want locales [y/N]
I did also suggested an --install-locales option for debootstrap (and
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 05:03:50PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
Vociferous == Vociferous Mole [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
doesn't look like it to me:
[503] [pluto:bam] ~ LANG=en_AU:en_GB dia
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Vociferous From
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:17:12PM +1000 , Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
Does that mean it should always take a certain format irrespective of the
locale? If so, which format?
or number format. ie. in Czech decimal separator is `,' comma and in C it's
`.' dot. OK, now restart gnumeric in other
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 05:03:50PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
Vociferous == Vociferous Mole [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
doesn't look like it to me:
[503] [pluto:bam] ~ LANG=en_AU:en_GB dia
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Vociferous From
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:00:18PM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
No, make it opt-in and don't sent them by defaulot.
Just checking, but having it optional is mutually exclusive with any final
solution that involves the maintainer having to put the translation into the
.deb.
I'd
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:41:53AM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote:
On 01-09-04 Nick Phillips wrote:
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:06:04PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
I don't expect most maintainers to be able or inclined to keep track of
a shedload of different translations, and those who are
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:00:42PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
It needs to be stored, in /var/lib/dpkg/status, as a single file. This is
so
that dpkg can make safe updates to it. Trying to sync multiple files is
not a
simple solution.
no, it does not store there. And I can
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:53:37PM +0200, Petr Cech wrote:
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:17:12PM +1000 , Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
Does that mean it should always take a certain format irrespective of the
locale? If so, which format?
or number format. ie. in Czech decimal separator is `,'
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:00:42PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
If we talk about translation, this is not a big problem. You must only
use gettext all the time. Maybe we can throw away the 'maintainer
name' problem with this. (You know it: maintainer fields with
ÖÄÜöüüßåñïééõú... in the
Le Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:30:12PM -0400, Joey Hess écrivait:
I would like to see this oft-requested feature, but in the meantime
there is nothing to prevent you as a backup maintainer from seeing every
bug for every package you backup maintain. debian-bugs-dist + procmail.
Trivial.
Of
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Petr Cech wrote:
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:17:12PM +1000 , Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
Does that mean it should always take a certain format irrespective of the
locale? If so, which format?
or number format. ie. in Czech decimal separator is `,' comma and in C it's
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:11:56PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote:
I'd have thought that the current situation re. maintainers putting
translations into .debs makes it blindingly obvious that requiring them
to do so in order for a translation to become available is a bad idea.
Do package
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:23:34PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote:
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:53:37PM +0200, Petr Cech wrote:
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:17:12PM +1000 , Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
Does that mean it should always take a certain format irrespective of the
locale? If so, which
Le Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:20:42PM +0100, Nick Phillips écrivait:
It needs to be stored, in /var/lib/dpkg/status, as a single file. This
is so
[...]
no, it does not store there. And I can explain it:
Well, shouldn't it? Wouldn't it make sense to have the translated description
in
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:20:42PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote:
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:00:42PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
It needs to be stored, in /var/lib/dpkg/status, as a single file. This
is so
that dpkg can make safe updates to it. Trying to sync multiple files is
not
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 01:13:35PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote:
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:00:42PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
If we talk about translation, this is not a big problem. You must only
use gettext all the time. Maybe we can throw away the 'maintainer
name' problem with
Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why should the default configuration be changed to account for the
diminishing number of broken routers on the net?
From a technical behavior, throwing away packets with unknown protocol
flags is perfectly acceptable in any case and even reasonable in
reopen 110862
# Here with I am reopening this bug.
#
# On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 06:31:19 +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
#
# On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:33:35PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
#
# I don't know if this is the right place to assign the bug. Maybe the
# right place for this is netbase,
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:49:09PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:11:56PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote:
I'd have thought that the current situation re. maintainers putting
translations into .debs makes it blindingly obvious that requiring them
to do so in order for a
Make sure you have ECN disabled on those bootdisks otherwise some people
will be finding out that to their surprise they are not able to download
their packages via the network. See the recent ECN thread.
*t
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-05
Severity: wishlist
xtail watches the growth of files. It's like running a tail -f on
a bunch of files at once. It notices if a file is trunated and starts
from the beginning. You can specify both filenames and directories on
the command line. If
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 08:34:45PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
Give a person a fish, and he will won't starve today. Teach him how
to fish, and he will never have to starve anymore.
btw the use of person followed by he is kind of weird in the above.
and it opens us up to lots of fun
** On Sep 05, Brian May scribbled:
Marek == Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marek Or just put LANG=en_GB in /etc/environment
Hmmm. Might be worth trying. However, either this is going to override
the language chosen by gdm, or gdm is going to override this. Not an
ideal
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:49:09PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
Do package descriptions change so regularly that translated descriptions
couldn't be submitted through the bug tracking system and included
in the next upload?
Apparently maintainers regularly fail to do anything with them at all
* Nick Phillips
| The translation of any part of a package, be it the text of error messages,
| the text in control, or the text in debconf templates, does not need to
| be part of the package, and hence certainly shouldn't have to be. The
| translations can easily be completely abstracted from
severity 110892 wishlist
thanks
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:42:23PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
# On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 06:31:19 +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
# On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:33:35PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
# I don't know if this is the right place to assign the bug.
It's not a
Dans un message du 05 sep à 14:37, Florian Weimer écrivait :
From a technical behavior, throwing away packets with unknown protocol
flags is perfectly acceptable in any case and even reasonable in some
environments.
I would not call reasonable dropping packets carrying bits of a protocol
rated
On 05-Sep-01, 07:09 (EDT), Nick Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you look at it logically, *everything* that has to do with translations
is quite distinct from the other tasks relating to package maintenance.
The translation of any part of a package, be it the text of error messages,
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:55:08AM +0200, A Mennucc1 wrote:
ok, I think I will switch again to w32
I say again because that was my choice for 3 days, and then I thought
that I didnt like w32 - w64 ; but again , who cares?
anyway, Real Life (tm) is hitting me hard; summer is over; if I find
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:49:09PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
Do package descriptions change so regularly that translated descriptions
couldn't be submitted through the bug tracking system and included
in the next upload?
That doesn't serve the purpose of hijacking pieces of the maintainer's
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 04:39:30PM -0700, Neil Spring wrote:
Incidentaly I'd today filled a *critical* bugreport against
kernel-image-2.4.8 just because of that.
It lists as Done; perhaps you're expected to file it
someplace else?
The first *experimental* rfc for ECN dates from 1999.
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 12:56:18AM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
Zitiere Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Neil Spring wrote on Sat Sep 01, 2001 um 12:34:40PM:
being turned off behind my back. ECN doesn't need any
more inertia slowing its deployment. It's already an
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Anthony Towns wrote:
severity 110892 wishlist
thanks
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:42:23PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
# On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 06:31:19 +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
# On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:33:35PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
# I don't know if this is
hi,
with reiserfs etc. shall we downgrade debian package e2fsprogs'
essential state to at least to allow it to be removable? thanks!
(one thing to notice is maybe the generic fsck wrapper?)
zw
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 03:22:47PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
* Nick Phillips
| The translation of any part of a package, be it the text of error messages,
| the text in control, or the text in debconf templates, does not need to
| be part of the package, and hence certainly shouldn't
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Guillaume Morin wrote:
Dans un message du 05 sep à 14:37, Florian Weimer écrivait :
From a technical behavior, throwing away packets with unknown protocol
flags is perfectly acceptable in any case and even reasonable in some
environments.
I would not call reasonable
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote:
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 12:56:18AM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
It's not only *sites* that do not work with ECN. It's also *routers*. That
means if you have *one* router between you and your destination, that does
not
support ECN, then
* Tomas Pospisek
| ) then it's the kernel-image package that needs to make sure it's runing
| in a sane environment. So *please* can we add something like:
|
| if ! grep /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn /etc/sysctl.conf /dev/null;
| then echo sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn=0
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:32:42PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
From the docu:
critical makes unrelated software on the system (or the whole system)
break, [...]
This is *exacly* what happens after an update from a vanilla 2.2.x kernel
to a 2.4. Some sites plain disapear from
critical makes unrelated software on the system (or the whole system)
break, [...]
The user experience is broken, not the software. The software is
working fine. The really broken part is firewalls and tcp/ip stacks on
the internet that do things to TCP that they shouldn't and
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
So *please* can we add something like:
if ! grep /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn /etc/sysctl.conf /dev/null;
then echo sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn=0 /etc/sysctl.conf
fi
to the kernel-image-2.4.x postinst.
Which of course will set up
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Scott Dier wrote:
working fine. The really broken part is firewalls and tcp/ip stacks on
the internet that do things to TCP that they shouldn't and break your
experience.
Go bugreport those instead.
Never mind the users: they will be happy to spend two days debuging the
ECN is RFC2481
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2481.txt?number=2481
the internet draft by the same authors that supercedes
rfc2481 and is a Proposed Standard instead of an
Experimental Standard is draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-04.
It is listed under working group standards track at
Dans un message du 05 sep à 17:30, T.Pospisek's MailLists écrivait :
The question is only if devices should be programmed in order to know
the future and it's potential proposed stadards by the IETF. Mind you I
don't know if the devices in question (websites, routers etc. droping ECN
packets)
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:07:40AM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
The description is part of the package, can we agree on that one?
What is the difference between a translated description and the
original one, except for which language it is written in?
The original, canonical,
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:23:52PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
with reiserfs etc. shall we downgrade debian package e2fsprogs'
essential state to at least to allow it to be removable? thanks!
(one thing to notice is maybe the generic fsck wrapper?)
Perhaps it would make sense to put
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Guillaume Morin wrote:
Dans un message du 05 sep à 17:30, T.Pospisek's MailLists écrivait :
The question is only if devices should be programmed in order to know
the future and it's potential proposed stadards by the IETF. Mind you I
don't know if the devices in
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:47:26PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
are set to the fixed-misc USC version and it seems to work fine. The only
problem I have found is with the Unicode TTF fonts - mkttfdir doesn't
generate correct fonts.dir file for those AFAICT - all entries have their
charset set
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Guillaume Morin wrote:
Dans un message du 05 sep à 14:37, Florian Weimer écrivait :
From a technical behavior, throwing away packets with unknown protocol
flags is perfectly acceptable in any case and even reasonable
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