Re: Cypherpunks anti-License

2004-02-24 Thread John Galt
. -- FINE, I take it back: UNfuck you! Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: A possible approach in solving the FDL problem

2003-08-14 Thread John Galt
to say that double-clicking or issuing a get foo to your download client isn't enough to constitute acceptance of a license. - -- * You are not expected to understand this. - --comment from Unix system 6 source, credited to Lions and Johnson Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's

Re: Linux kernel complete licence check, Q.0 - Q.10

2002-11-21 Thread John Galt
are not expected to understand this. --comment from Unix system 6 source, credited to Lions and Johnson Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who: finger me for GPG key

Re: [aspell-devel] Problems with aspell-en license

2002-10-20 Thread John Galt
for a license, but the term license for that is rather ambiguous, I'd agree. - -- Armageddon means never having to say you're sorry. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQE9slt

Re: [aspell-devel] Problems with aspell-en license

2002-10-20 Thread John Galt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 01:30:04AM -0600, John Galt wrote: Actually it isn't a granting of right, but a Testimonial that those rights exist. It means that you have recourse if sued to go after the one

Re: Regarding linux-kernel-conf and Qt

2002-10-15 Thread John Galt
that linked to Qt. But we did not exhaustively catalog every case. - -- Be Careful! I have a black belt in sna-fu! Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQE9rNRO+ZSKG3nWr3ARAgA

Re: what license is ?

2002-09-26 Thread John Galt
of an issue in 17 minutes flat. - -- The early worm gets the bird. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQE9k3yT+ZSKG3nWr3ARAoIHAJ0XvF12Zaq5feJuMjzwZbhwjsGM6ACdGl3a pQb

Re: BSD GPL / deb with 2 licenses?

2002-09-17 Thread John Galt
was sent to me by the FreeBSD port maintainer, I put it for now on http://people.debian.org/~rene/debian/muttprint/addons/images/Beastie.eps [2] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/print/muttprint/files/patch-ae -- Be Careful! I have a black belt in sna-fu! Who is John Galt

Re: BSD GPL / deb with 2 licenses?

2002-09-17 Thread John Galt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Prepare for armageddon, we agree...:) On 16 Sep 2002, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The BSD Daemon is under the license at http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html The big problem

Re: PDFlib license clarification request

2002-07-24 Thread John Galt
to go in contrib then? Thanks, Ardo -- void hamlet() {#define question=((bb)||(!bb))} Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED] that's who! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [hpoj-devel] Bug#147430: hpoj: Linking against OpenSSL licens ing modificat ion (GPL)

2002-07-23 Thread John Galt
at 08:05:10PM -0700, PASCHAL,DAVID (HP-Roseville,ex1) wrote: Is this solution OK for everybody? I see nothing objectionable from a DFSG perspective in the language you have proposed. Thanks for working on this issue! -- void hamlet() {#define question=((bb)||(!bb))} Who is John Galt? [EMAIL

Re: Endorsements (was Re: GPL compatibility of DFCL)

2002-06-16 Thread John Galt
is John galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQE9DCfO+ZSKG3nWr3ARAuJLAJ9lXoNTgR2mrwVQGDOtoWVOuQrG9gCfd/8X TI6iPb9nir3U5t9XUI93h7Q= =eLvU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: linux gpl question

2002-04-26 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, David Starner wrote: On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 09:35:44PM -0600, John Galt wrote: No, he doesn't have to do anything at all with his patches. They aren't the FSF's to define the license for. For ONLY the work he authored or has the rights of authorship in, he may do

Re: linux gpl question

2002-04-26 Thread John Galt
On 25 Apr 2002, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, he doesn't have to do anything at all with his patches. They aren't the FSF's to define the license for. For ONLY the work he authored or has the rights of authorship in, he may do whatever he wishes

Re: Preprints/Reprints of Academic Papers in Packages

2002-03-18 Thread John Galt
I am fully aware of the fact that Debian contains GPL'd stuff. But what does a GPL definition of source have to do with a DFSG 2 determination? On 17 Mar 2002, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What does the GPL definition have to do with Debian? Perhaps

Re: Preprints/Reprints of Academic Papers in Packages

2002-03-18 Thread John Galt
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 10:59:27PM -0700, John Galt wrote: I submit since postscript is turing complete, postscript documents are actually already in source form. A Turing-complete system is one in which the behaviour of a universal Turing machine can

Re: Preprints/Reprints of Academic Papers in Packages

2002-03-18 Thread John Galt
On 17 Mar 2002, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am fully aware of the fact that Debian contains GPL'd stuff. But what does a GPL definition of source have to do with a DFSG 2 determination? The context was not asking that question. No, in context

Re: Preprints/Reprints of Academic Papers in Packages

2002-03-18 Thread John Galt
On 17 Mar 2002, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, provide a definition of source that includes interpretive languages such as Perl. I submit that any definition of source so broad as to include a perlscript must necessarily include a postscript document

Re: Preprints/Reprints of Academic Papers in Packages

2002-03-18 Thread John Galt
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 12:15:41AM -0700, John Galt wrote: Okay, provide a definition of source that includes interpretive languages such as Perl. I submit that any definition of source so broad as to include a perlscript must necessarily include

Re: Preprints/Reprints of Academic Papers in Packages

2002-03-17 Thread John Galt
does the GPL definition have to do with Debian? -- Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: Preprints/Reprints of Academic Papers in Packages

2002-03-17 Thread John Galt
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ -- Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-03-02 Thread John Galt
integration into baby mulching machines or atomic bombs to be dropped on Australia. snip - -- Armageddon means never having to say you're sorry. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76

Re: LDP licences

2001-12-08 Thread John Galt
To: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Um, yeah. On 7 Dec 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sorry, did I say anything to you at all? Blah blah blah. Who said you did? Were you addressed, um, *ever* on this list? -- There is no problem so great

Re: LDP licences

2001-12-08 Thread John Galt
On 7 Dec 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: On 7 Dec 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Were you addressed, um, *ever* on this list? John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Um, yeah. How would you know? Because they used your name? No, that's not it. Waah! It's all about me losing

Re: LDP licences

2001-12-07 Thread John Galt
, -- Be Careful! I have a black belt in sna-fu! Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: LDP licences

2001-12-07 Thread John Galt
I'm sorry, did I say anything to you at all? On 7 Dec 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It prohibits pseudonymous/anonymous modification, which may very well be a no-op, but pseudonymity is outside the scope of Debian as I am repeatedly and consistently

Re: Debian Package for Phylip - stripped to 3 questions

2001-11-23 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Tille, Andreas wrote: Hello Joe just tried to clean up my rather confuse posting. Just forget about that and try to find a suggestion for a DFSG free license which complies with Joes requirements. Unfortunately I doubt we will not find such a license. Kind regards

Re: Licence question

2001-11-08 Thread John Galt
to write it into his license. Regards, Joey -- You have paid nothing for the preceding, therefore it's worth every penny you've paid for it: if you did pay for it, might I remind you of the immortal words of Phineas Taylor Barnum regarding fools and money? Who is John Galt? [EMAIL

Re: xfig-doc has license problems in examples

2001-10-23 Thread John Galt
On 22 Oct 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually they are, if they wish to effectively maintain the copyright: They can choose to enforce against some people and not others, and have complete liberty. By failing to prosecute one violation promptly

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-16 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Wookey wrote: On Sat 06 Oct, John Galt wrote: On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Wookey wrote: The current license in full is: Terminology --- 1. The `original author' contained here in is Russell King, currently contactable at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. The `source

Re: installing on RiscPC

2001-10-06 Thread John Galt
with any distribution or redistribution of this source code, and with any subsequent program distribution. Wookey -- Armageddon means never having to say you're sorry. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: ITP: kernel-patch-selinux

2001-09-24 Thread John Galt
. This limitation will apply even if NSA has been advised of the possibility of such damage. I acknowledge that this is a reasonable allocation of risk. -- I can be immature if I want to, because I'm mature enough to make my own decisions. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FYI: Zope Public License 1.1 vague, contradictory, and not DFSG-free

2001-09-06 Thread John Galt
itself by quoting it for critical purposed. Of course, in a society where Fair Use is recognized, that's not the case, but I'm not sure the United States is such a society these days. However, that's beyond the scope of this mail. -- EMACS == Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping Who is John

Re: Missing Attachment (T.Rex license)

2001-09-06 Thread John Galt
version of Qt), not because the QPL was non-free. On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Ryszard Lach wrote: I'm very sorry, I forgotten the attachment. Ryszard Lach. -- * You are not expected to understand this. --comment from Unix system 6 source, credited to Lions and Johnson Who is John Galt? [EMAIL

Re: mplayer / divx

2001-08-30 Thread John Galt
? Hamish -- Sacred cows make the best burgers Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!!!

RE: Questions concerning S/390 OCO-modules

2001-08-18 Thread John Galt
Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, OK 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 -Original Message- From: John Galt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 1:45 AM To: Jochen Röhrig Cc: Walter Landry; debian-legal@lists.debian.org; debian-s390@lists.debian.org

Re: ns network simulator licenses

2001-07-30 Thread John Galt
this is not true. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: Free way to decompress LZW archives?

2001-07-28 Thread John Galt
On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, Junichi Uekawa wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit Debian needs permission to modify as well. There has been a substantial non-interest in .LZW decompressors since the Unisys thing in '94, so I doubt that lha would be put in main Please tell me what

Re: Free way to decompress LZW archives?

2001-07-25 Thread John Galt
, I take it back: UNfuck you! Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: Free way to decompress LZW archives?

2001-07-25 Thread John Galt
Replying to my own message, with a WORKING colon key. On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, John Galt wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Dylan Thurston wrote: I recently came across some data published as a .LZW archive which I want to process. It seems that the standard program for dealing with the archives, lha

Re: Free way to decompress LZW archives?

2001-07-25 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Dylan Thurston wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 11:17:27PM -0600, John Galt wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Dylan Thurston wrote: I recently came across some data published as a .LZW archive which I want to process. It seems that the standard program for dealing

Re: Group Copyright

2001-07-25 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: IANAL. On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 03:37:11PM -0600, John Galt wrote: A license is a contract, and wording within is binding. Even on people under 18 years of age? I think this is the biggest I was mostly talking about binding on the developers

Re: Group Copyright

2001-07-23 Thread John Galt
On 20 Jul 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: I'm snipping the normal John Galt obstructionism, off-topic political commentary, and attempts to confuse issues, and responding only to the real questions. No, snippage around you usually means an attempt to redefine the argument. John Galt [EMAIL

Re: Group Copyright

2001-07-23 Thread John Galt
On 20 Jul 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I assume of course that you have cites on this? Please provide them. Cites? What on earth are you talking about? Had you quoted the entirety, it would have been patently obvious. Your paragraph that the cite

Re: Group Copyright

2001-07-20 Thread John Galt
for it is neither Rare nor Well done! a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]John Galt /a

Re: Group Copyright

2001-07-20 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Joseph Carter wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 01:53:30AM -0600, John Galt wrote: How then should free software projects handle Copyright? Advice would be appreciated. I'm sure I'm not the first person to ever worry about this. As a necessary evil :) Seriously, the only

Re: Group Copyright

2001-07-20 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Joseph Carter wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 04:03:02AM -0600, John Galt wrote: I can see where you are going. The alternatives I see are pretty much five: 1) the list of thirty names If there is no legal problem with this, it's reasonable. True

Re: Group Copyright

2001-07-20 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Joseph Carter wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 05:20:09AM -0600, John Galt wrote: 2) the group/readme If there is no legal problem with this, it's better (because it's less of a hassle!) I'm thinking it could be construed as a DBA. ? The group name would

Re: Group Copyright

2001-07-20 Thread John Galt
On 20 Jul 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the fiction that a corporation has rights as a person is granted, it only follows that the next step in the progression is that unincorporated groups start to get the same rights. It's as screwed up

Re: Group Copyright

2001-07-20 Thread John Galt
On 20 Jul 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) the list of thirty names This is annoying, but works fine. What are you trying to say here that hasn't already been said? 2) the group/readme This is dangerous, because the group has no legal reality

Re: Group Copyright

2001-07-20 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Joseph Carter wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 08:46:19AM -0600, John Galt wrote: Ask Dmitriy Sklyarov how ineffectual it is Isn't he the guy who treatened to sue over archives? If so, then yeah, I was shocked and dismayed to see something resembling a backbone

Re: PBS License

2001-07-18 Thread John Galt
On 17 Jul 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're right, but this is also precedent setting: the first time that a choice of law of a state where UCITA is in effect (it took effect 7/1) has been used in an otherwise free license that was submitted

Re: PBS License

2001-07-18 Thread John Galt
a release cycle (unless, of course, the release cycles get much longer, in which case the copyright would expire before the next release :). Again, the URL is http://www.law.upenn.edu/bll/ulc/ucita/ucitaFinal00.htm for those of you playing along at home On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, John Galt wrote: On Tue

Re: PBS License

2001-07-18 Thread John Galt
On 17 Jul 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course, part of the FUD is courtesy of the FSF... http:www.gnu.org/philosophy/ucita.html Um, that's not FUD, though it's a little F. But it's why UCITA is a bad law. It's not why we can't use a free

Re: PBS License

2001-07-17 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 5. Redistributions in any form must be accompanied by information on how to obtain complete source code for the OpenPBS software and any modifications and/or additions to the OpenPBS software. The source code must

Re: PBS License

2001-07-17 Thread John Galt
On 17 Jul 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With the XFree86 license, it's tough to find a restriction, but they have one: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software

Re: PBS License

2001-07-17 Thread John Galt
On 17 Jul 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The license doesn't say ADDITIONAL restriction, it simply says restrictions. Adding words that are not there to make it free is not only dishonest, it's stupid. You are patently attempting to misread the license

Re: PBS License

2001-07-17 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: GPL-ish stuff, the only problem is that you theoretically cannot use the OpenPBS license on contributed code, since it implies restrictions (there goes DFSG 3). In fact, the only way you could theoretically

Re: PBS License

2001-07-17 Thread John Galt
On 17 Jul 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, I am trying to misread the license. Worse yet, I'm succeeding. Hrm. Maybe you're actually Yogi Berra redivivus. Clause 5 is capable of being construed in a manner that denies the right of modification

Re: PBS License

2001-07-17 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Raul Miller wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 03:56:10PM -0600, John Galt wrote: The license doesn't say ADDITIONAL restriction, it simply says restrictions. Adding words that are not there to make it free is not only dishonest, it's stupid. DFSG doesn't require that we

Re: PBS License

2001-07-17 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Raul Miller wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 07:16:08PM -0600, John Galt wrote: No, it requires releasability under the SAME license. Clause 5 requires modifications to be released with NO restrictions at all, and all licenses necessarily restrict rights, including

Re: PBS License

2001-07-17 Thread John Galt
On 17 Jul 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Possibly, but I'm not convinced that I have yet. Is there a reason anyone associated with Debian should bother trying to convince you? Only the obvious ones. But, no, there's really no reason for anyone

Re: PBS License

2001-07-17 Thread John Galt
On 17 Jul 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This solves one of my problems. The second is more thorny. It seems that the PBS license has the choice of law clause for Virginia, a UCTIA state. In the past, this was enough to make a license questionable

Re: PBS License

2001-07-16 Thread John Galt
is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-29 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: I really hope this is the last post on this *way* off-topic subthread. I've set Mail-Followup-To accordingly, I hope you respect that. EOT here. -- EMACS == Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-28 Thread John Galt
On 27 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JESUS H CHRIST ON A POGO STICK WHAT is your major malfuction? It's not good enough for you to start on your John Galt's not part of Debian kick, but you now have to start on others?! I have some suggestions

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-28 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, John Galt wrote: legality really has little to do with fairness in the sense you were using it. Replying to myself: there ws supposed to be a URL here, but I deleted it and forgot to delete the commentary. FWIW here's the deleted URL... http://www.guerrillanews.com

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-28 Thread John Galt
On 27 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No it isn't. Debian's one of my favorite distros, and I hate to see it being brought down by the likes of you. Every time you tell someone that they aren't a part of Debian, at least one person (more likely five

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-28 Thread John Galt
On 27 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's not. What is supposed to alienate everyone is YOU telling them that they aren't. Telling ME is one thing: I figure that if they don't know enough about Debian that they know who all the flame-warriors

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-28 Thread John Galt
On 28 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would assume that Hoffman is also aware that he's not a developer. Why is it supposed to alienate someone to remind them that certain lists are primarily for the use of developers, not users? Because

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-28 Thread John Galt
On 28 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: noticed, we place a priority on real identities. Or haven't you No. Our priorities are our users and free software. I really don't remember real identities of those connected with Debian in there... noticed

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-28 Thread John Galt
On 28 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hrm. I'm trying to figure out how you can quote something without reading it.you know, I just can't feature it. The front page of lists.debian.org defines certain

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-28 Thread John Galt
On 28 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you? I can think of three packages that the maintainer is acting in an unaccoutable and irresponsible way. You may even think you know which ones: I'm sure the DD responsible knows what I think of them. I

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-28 Thread John Galt
On 28 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And the definition is so broad that I easily fall into it. Hoffman may or may not, but it really isn't your place to decide. They have the listmasters for a reason, you know. The term Developers in Debian

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-28 Thread John Galt
On 28 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, I'd say that no employer is going to give two shits about activity on a mailing list, but your past actions speak of a willingness to try to give the lie to that statement. The only relevant issue

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-27 Thread John Galt
just before the grant of monopoly (ie copyright). Thomas -- There is an old saying that if a million monkeys typed on a million keyboards for a million years, eventually all the works of Shakespeare would be produced. Now, thanks to Usenet, we know this is not true. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL

Re: Question about the old BSD license and GPL (gtkipmsg)

2001-06-27 Thread John Galt
Do you really wish to reopen this? The thread was ended. On 26 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GNU in Debian GNU/Linux isn't a form of credit where credit is due, then what is it? It's the name of the operating system. The operating system

Re: Question about the old BSD license and GPL (gtkipmsg)

2001-06-27 Thread John Galt
On 27 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you really wish to reopen this? The thread was ended. Ssh. This isn't your project, remember? If you want to join, join. If you want to snipe from sidelines, go somewhere else. No, but it IS my response

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-27 Thread John Galt
On 27 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One might, and one might be right. Remember, the US legal system is based in the Social Contract theory, where the Government is given powers by the people, not vice-versa. This means that if there isn't a law

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-27 Thread John Galt
On 27 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So now this is a RICO case?! Complex acts usually involve Enterprise corruption, which again has a different standard of proof. Unless you can prove bad acts by all in the chain, forget a civil action

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-27 Thread John Galt
On 27 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, but you used language that only occurs in such cases (actually no, it also occurs in most conspiracy theories, but the GPL is used IN quite a few conspiracy theories) ((note: it's a plausible parallel

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-27 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Raul Miller wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 04:39:02PM -0600, John Galt wrote: Actually, you can. So long as the final result stays in the possession of the person who did the linking, this is not a COPYright issue, but a property right issue. This is the epitome of fair

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-27 Thread John Galt
be immature if I want to, because I'm mature enough to make my own decisions. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Question about the old BSD license and GPL (gtkipmsg)

2001-06-24 Thread John Galt
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Joey Hess wrote: John Galt wrote: Because you failed to answer my question about three exchanges ago: if the GNU in Debian GNU/Linux isn't a form of credit where credit is due, then what is it? Try reading the first paragraph of http://www.debian.org/ and/or the Debian

Re: Question about the old BSD license and GPL (gtkipmsg)

2001-06-23 Thread John Galt
On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Raul Miller wrote: On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:00:57PM -0600, John Galt wrote: ...thus it's giving credit where credit is due to the GNU foundation. Sure. Last exchange, you said it wasn't. Message ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] as if I had to point it out. For example, apache when

Re: Question about the old BSD license and GPL (gtkipmsg)

2001-06-23 Thread John Galt
On 23 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whether or not the GNU foundation needs to mention the Apache project is irrelevant: what matters is whether Debian needs to, and a good portion of Debian systems DO run Apache code. Isn't it only fair

Re: Question about the old BSD license and GPL (gtkipmsg)

2001-06-22 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Raul Miller wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 11:12:58AM -0400, Chloe Hoffman wrote: If we're talking about enforcement of copyright in a court of law, then I would note, as summarized by Eugene Volokh (http://www.law.ucla.edu/faculty/volokh/copyinj.htm#IIA): In Harper

Re: okay for non-free?

2001-06-09 Thread John Galt
Explosives. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: Macromedia flash and shockwave

2001-05-29 Thread John Galt
keyboards for a million years, eventually all the works of Shakespeare would be produced. Now, thanks to Usenet, we know this is not true. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: Macromedia flash and shockwave

2001-05-29 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 29 May 2001, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 05:19:08PM -0600, John Galt wrote: Actually, the installer would go into contrib, unless you're planning to use a non-DFSG-free license for the installer itself. The program itself is DFSG free, it just depends on (gets

Re: three send back changes clauses

2001-05-28 Thread John Galt
On Sun, 27 May 2001, Walter Landry wrote: From: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: three send back changes clauses Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 21:13:21 -0600 (MDT) effort. Basically, the weasel words come to the rescue again. It seems like you're interpreting the weasel words to make

Re: three send back changes clauses

2001-05-28 Thread John Galt
that it cannot be solved with suitable application of High Explosives. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: three send back changes clauses

2001-05-27 Thread John Galt
it's best efforts to purge all WHOIS information out of it's databases :) I'm guessing they got rid of three emails... Regards, Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with suitable application of High Explosives. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL

Re: three send back changes clauses

2001-05-25 Thread John Galt
? Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: three send back changes clauses

2001-05-25 Thread John Galt
, Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You have paid nothing for the preceding, therefore it's worth every penny you've paid for it: if you did pay for it, might I remind you of the immortal words of Phineas Taylor Barnum regarding fools and money? Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's

Re: New idea for finessing patent issues (was: lame (again!))

2001-05-20 Thread John Galt
the works of Shakespeare would be produced. Now, thanks to Usenet, we know this is not true. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: New idea for finessing patent issues (was: lame (again!))

2001-05-20 Thread John Galt
On Sun, 20 May 2001, Steve Greenland wrote: On 19-May-01, 23:03 (CDT), John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2001, Steve Greenland wrote: 2a. It basically confirms that we think these patents are valid[1], and thus does not stay true to our ideals. It can be worded that Debian

Re: Libapache-mod-backhand: load balancing Apache requests.

2001-04-04 Thread John Galt
appreciated. Hmm, it might not be DFSG OK until *after* you have renamed it. Surely a Debian package is a derived product? Is Apache renamed? libapache-mod-backhand uses the Apache license verbatim... Richard Braakman - -- Be Careful! I have a black belt in sna-fu! Who is John Galt? [EMAIL

Re: Libapache-mod-backhand: load balancing Apache requests.

2001-04-02 Thread John Galt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, James Bromberger wrote: Dear Legal List, I have been asked to bring the licence for a package I am preparing for unstable, which I am hoping will go into main, to this list hoping to get a concensus that the licence is DSFG OK.

Re: Libapache-mod-backhand: load balancing Apache requests.

2001-04-02 Thread John Galt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2 Apr 2001, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 5. Products derived from this software may not be called mod_backhand *nor may mod_backhand appear in their names without prior written *permission

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